Charis Minute with Andrew Wommack | Tithing

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[@footballguy6418]

Cheerful giving is something I always felt was right in my spirit. The motive of a man's heart. New covenant has nothing to do with any specific percentage. Cheerful giving period!

[@soniaguerra2312]

Absolutely if we aren’t cheerfully giving it’s a heart issue .

[@footballguy6418]

@@soniaguerra2312 correct

[@omega36001]

Wommack is smarter than the early church. He finds conclusions on money that they didn't. Extortion is greed.

[@NinPossible]

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS SIMPLE TEACHING! I'VE BEEN STRUGGLING WITH THIS LAST NIGHT AND I WAS SO MAD THAT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND ABOUT TITHING. NOW I GOT IT! PRAISE GOD AND THANK YOU CBC AND AWMI! Sorry for the caps but I'm in so much joy that I finally get it! Yay!

[@CharisCollege]

You're very welcome, Nin! We are glad this ministered to you! - Charis Team

[@mikewayne6608]

@@CharisCollege Wommack says its stupid not to tithe. My question is where is that in the scriptures?

[@hankaargalska8811]

Thank you so much freedom

[@canonrebel626]

I’m curious and would like to learn where in the Bible it talks about money being a seed?

[@kimartist]

It doesn't. The Seed is Jesus. Sowing the Seed is preaching the Gospel. The harvest is souls for the Kingdom.

[@futiish]

Good question

[@windsorqueensborough1661]

Seed is used in a variety of ways in Scripture. To answer your question it is implied in 2 Corinthians 8, and more explicitly stated in the next chapter, 2 Corinthians 9

[@Singita.S]

Thank you

[@MD6-127]

​@@windsorqueensborough1661MISLEADING AND QUOTING SCRIPTURE....this chapters don't talk about seed

[@markb7067]

Saying that "the tithe was in place" prior to Mosaic Law isn't biblically supported. The Bible only records systematic tithes under Mosaic Law. What Abram submitted was a one-time honorarium from items he declared he wouldn't accept. And there's no universal "curse" for not tithing. That's a reference to Malachi 3 which has nothing to do with paying money to a church and the narrative was directed towards the Levitical Priests. See Malachi 1:3 and 2:1. Neither God nor Jesus asked anyone for their money but yes, giving to a church or otherwise, money or otherwise, is front and center in the Christian worldview.

[@raycohollis9417]

They always find a way to get the money from the people. If you have it to give then it's nice to do so, if you don't have it then don't give it. If you do or you don't is up to you but your not stupid if you don't. Give to those who really need it and give God the glory. More Christian "givers " give waaaaay more to a pastor (who is well off $$$) I'm mean the "church" then a homeless person. The "church" is already funded by the state (most) . Food is donated to the "church. " If your a giver, then give directly to those in need yourself.

[@waynemcghie6500]

Did you know that, concerning giving, or tithing, or prosperity, Malachi 3:8-12 is not the full counsel of God? It is an excerpt, quoted to the church for centuries (believe it or not), which is a misrepresentation of God's counsel. We've accepted it because that's what we have always been taught. Here are a few points to consider. (1) There is no scripture where a pastor may ever require or receive tithes, from anyone. (2) There is no scripture where anyone other than a Levite may ever receive tithes. (3) There is no scripture in the bible that requires a Gentile to tithe. -- Who did God appoint to receive tithes? God said, "And, behold, I have given the children of Levi all the tenth [the tithe] in Israel for an inheritance, for their service which they serve, even the service of the tabernacle of the congregation (Numbers 18:21-23). In this scripture, God established who receives the tithe (the Levites), and why they received it (they received no inheritance, and they served in the temple). This assignment is exclusive to Levites. A pastor cannot assume this assignment, he has never been scripturally assigned by God to collect tithes, he is not a Levite. In that same sense, only a Levite, never a pastor, could ever serve in a Jewish temple. The church has not replaced the Jewish temple, and pastors have not replaced Levites. -- People are blessed when they give, not because of Malachi 3, which is based on the Law of Moses, an Old Testament law that has been replaced by Grace under Christ, at the cross. They are blessed because Jesus said, "Give, and it will be given to you: good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over will be put into your bosom. For with the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you" (Luke 6:38). It is this principle of giving and receiving at work, when we give and are blessed. Not the expired law of tithing, which was required of the Jews (never Gentiles), and could only be received by Levite priests because they received no inheritance and were set apart to work fully in the Jewish temple. -- There is much more to this, such as Abraham's tithe to Melchizedek, Jacob's promise to tithe, the history of when and why the New Testament church tithes (there is actually a date!), and the biblical support for all these truths. To be clear, every pastor has a right to collect offerings in support of the ministry; I fully agree with supporting the church financially. But our giving must be godly. It is wrong to require people to tithe, contrary to the scriptures, then say that we live according to the scriptures. If you're interested in learning more, I have researched and written about this in "Tither, You Are Free!" Blessings to you and your ministry!

[@npzwane9331]

That is well said. To add I can say that Galatians 5:4 makes it clear that those who seek to be justified by the law are cut off from Christ. Therefore the truth is that if you tithe you are cut off from Christ because you seek to be justified by the Law. Also Abraham tithed once in his lifetime. Although he was very rich there is no record in the bible where he tithed from his belongings. He tithed from things belonging to others; those spoils of war which he was on his way to restore to their rightful owners when he met Melchizedek. Other than Abraham there is no record of any other person paying tithes before the Law. Jacob never paid tithes. His was just a fulfilment of a promise he made. Had there been any word of God requiring Jacob to give the 10 percent Jacob would never have made the promise because in that event promise or no promise the the 10 percent would have been required of him. How does one make a promise to pay taxes. Such a promise would be senseless since promise or no promise one is required to pay taxes. I remember somewhere in the bible where the brethren made an arrangement to make contributions towards the maintenance of the Temple. This was despite the fact that tithes were paid. The reason for the arrangement was that the tithes were not for maintaining the house of God. Now the reason for demanding tithes is that the tithes are needed to maintain the church. I think pastors should help the church reach an agreement on how they can contribute towards maintaining the church over and above the regular offerings done on Sunday.

[@angelwings2113]

Amen

[@gofy8481]

funny how he says we are free from the curse, and that the tithe was "pre law". A ridiculous argument from money grabbing Christian leaders. Animal Sacrifice was also "pre law", but then it was included in the law. So do we sacrifice animals? No because we are FREE from the law. And Abraham only sacrificed ONCE to Melchizidech, not every month or every week or every year! That act was done to establish the priesthood of Jesus. Once done, it didn't need to be done again not by Abraham, or by us. Andrew is just a lipsticked legalist, hiding behind a "grace" message.

[@anthonytodd5841]

Where did God take the tithe from the tribe of Levi and given it to anyone including Andrew Wommack?

[@Holly-gi5vy]

i have followed AW and been a partner for 29 years!!!! And the the subject of tithe and church attendance are the only 2 subjects that I disagree with him on, over those 29 years. The tithe was never money. it wasn't to be given to a building. Only 2 types of people "tithed". And only 2 of the 12 tribes of Israel tithed. No one else on the face of the planet ever tithed (until modern day christians came along.). Just those two specific people, and only within 2 tribes. For us to tithe into a government owned institution with our money is a total lie. Mal 3 is not even talking to the children of Israel. That scripture is so incredibly taken out of context. It surprises me, and saddens me, for as deeply as Andrew has a grasp on the Word of God, that he has missed this one. We are not stupid for following a false teaching and giving up our money into an institution, to pay a pastors salary before we even feed our own family. Do your own study. -tangibly, what was the tithe? (not once was it money). -Who tithed? -what was the tithe for? (or who was the tithe for?) the answer for those 3 questions will set you free. All 3 are actually right there in your bible. The tithe was never a "law", it was instruction on how to FEED your OWN family and servants WITH FOOD. I know all the scriptures that people use to prove we have to tithe. Mal 3, the story of Melchizech, the levitical priests recieving tithes.... I can prove, with ALL those scriptures, how they are mis-taught. And that is the point. That is what AWM is all about. People have been MIS-TAUGHT. And AW makes it so plain. He shows you the truth about scripture. ---there is a truth about the tithe... and it was set you free!

[@futiish]

Jesus: Before Abraham was, I am! Jesus is the first born of many sons and daughters. If you are a son or daughter you aren't under any Abraham, Mosaic or Adamic covenant, praise the Lord! You are free from any of these, as a son or daughter our responsibility is giving life as we received life the rest are additives. There isn't any modality to give, you aren't stupid for not tithing.

[@sheilamanohar8185]

True .

[@michaelmartinez6437]

We thithe on obedience not love

[@huntergreen9381]

Saying people are stupid from the pulpit is wrong. Also the tithe was agricultural goods not money.

[@renahuddleston4925]

New Covenant giving has nothing to do with a tithe! It is giving freely as one purposes in their hearts to give. Not grudgingly or out of necessity. Tithing was NEVER meant for Gentile giving. Neither was it under the Old Covenant, neither was it under the new! Give freely as your heart instructs and the Holy Spirit leads.

[@happymudzuli2746]

I'm a stupid non-tither sir

[@davidhunt5015]

Your reply is the truth. Abraham tithed on what he and his men took from the men they had killed - the "spoils of war". There's nowhere in scripture that says Abraham tithed from his own possessions, and Genesis 13 says he was a very wealthy man. Tithing under the Law of Moses was never money. It was only a share of crops and livestock.

[@calebgibson55]

@@davidhunt5015 Let me ask you this, how could Abraham give something that was not his? To say “Abraham did mot tithe any of his possessions” is too completely misinterpret the message. He got spoils of war, that is like a soldier going into battle. He was a Commander of an army and all those spoils were his possessions..

[@mikewayne6608]

@@calebgibson55 how much of those spoils of war did Abram keep for himself?

[@luckyuche]

Question: So we should tithe, yes it is a wise thing to do. But what if instead of giving a tithe (10%) I decide to give 30% every month? Is it wrong? Must it be 10%? Must we give the tithe separately from other givings and offerings?

[@kimartist]

The tithe (one tenth part) was never money.

[@josiah9304]

Your tithe is the first 1/10 of what you make & anything above that is an offering.

[@LALady1]

yea but that’s how they made money back then

[@deepthoughts1739]

@Lucky Uche “Did you get your answer?”

[@mikewayne6608]

@@josiah9304 where is that in the Bible? Book chapter and verse please.