Charles Dowding and Dr. Eric Berg discuss links between soil and health as a positive state

[@gunnell9817]

I also want to say that all the work you're doing with No Dig for free on You Tube, Charles, is just wonderful. Unfortunately I don't have a garden myself but I watch all of your videos and IF I had a garden I would do No Dig. And the way you and Dr Berg work on You Tube, for free for anyone who wants to learn about health and nutrients in different ways is absolutely stunning. You are both great teachers, thank you very much for all that you do 💕

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Thanks so much

[@jeannamcgregor9967]

I was appalled to find out that, in the US, hydroponically-grown food can be certified as organic, ignoring the whole soil microbiome contribution to nutrition. It has made me wary of the certified organic label in general and spurred me to tear out a significant portion of my backyard landscaping and start growing my own no-dig food.

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Good reaction by you!

[@abehonestly]

Another huge contention with labeling Organic, is that farmers pay the companies that are certifying their farms. It's a huge conflict of interest. If the certification companies are not certifying people, then they have no job, so what gives them the incentive to decertify and reject certification?

[@larrysbrain1627]

Most so-called organic food is NOT. The few inspectors they have could never ever go to each of those farms. Like George Carlin once said, "it's the manufacturing and packaging of bullshit. Organic bs

[@barbaravanerp4598]

It’s still a step in the right direction

[@selnesgard9388]

In the EU organic plants have to be grown in natural soil, also when inside greenhouses. 😊

[@martinacusack9867]

Watched both gentlemen separately for while but am so glad that these connections are being made. Please try and have more of these conversations. ❤

[@silvercat151]

I'm delighted to see people from two of my favourite channels discussing the foundations of health like this. I trust these two with my health over big pharma and the FDA any day!

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

That is nice

[@lisamoore9699]

Same for me! I subscribe to both channels and here they are having a conversation! Grow your own!

[@joshbeard9809]

The only problem is it sounds like they still adhere to and push the germ theory religion that pHARMa, CDC, and FDA have used to manipulate so many people into injecting poisons and creating germaphobes. So sad.

[@ChronicallyHopefulChar]

Absolutely. And just saw Jess Sowards talk about meeting Charles too, all my worlds are colliding. I just love seeing all these big channels focus on healthy living soil and inspiring so many to grow their own or at least start asking questions about where their food and health is coming from. Exciting!

[@peterbristow8693]

It is this belief that is the EXACT reason why we try to grow all our own food. It's good to hear more people talking about this and also a relief to know that at least one person is studying it on a scientific level!

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

💚

[@1Lightdancer]

Yes!! I eat Something from my cottage garden daily - and we're putting up a small greenhouse for some of the more tender plants 🌿 And - I love that our Oregon town has a year round Farners Market! Real food grown on the land around our county! And several of our restaurants get veggies and meat from these local farms! My former hubby of a soil biologist, and we've been interested in soil health for half a century.

[@CNSChristyDittmar]

❤

[@RayMirshahi]

Soil health, plant health, animal and human health are closely linked. I'm glad more people are talking about it. Thanks.

[@christophermee5214]

What also is closely linked is MAD COW DISEASE. 🦠

[@OfftoShambala]

@@christophermee5214 and the Nazis who want you to be afraid

[@eb1684]

Provide some evidence, OK? @@christophermee5214

[@smas3256]

@@christophermee5214 poison and or frequencies kill. Diseases are not contagious.

[@cherylannebarillartist7453]

Sadhguru has a huge initiative for soil. Check out his worldwide effort as well?!? If many MANY good and great minds support eachother maybe you can help make a significant difference.

[@olgacaballero1998]

I just woke up and couldn't believe the titles of the video! Started watching right away. It's officially the most important video of the year for gardening and natural health channels (in my opinion). Thank You guys!

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Cheers Olga

[@cherylannebarillartist7453]

Sadhguru has a huge initiative for soil. Check out his worldwide effort as well?!? If many MANY good and great minds support eachother maybe you can help make a significant difference.

[@lindarobinson8288]

Oh Happy Day!! What a thrill to hear these two brilliant men discuss soil and nutrition. I have been following Dr. Berg, and doing the keto diet, for 4 years. And following Charles Dowding 3 years and enjoying my no dig garden and I couldn't be happier that they found each other. What a perfect collaboration! So excited that Dr Berg is farming now and looking forward to his new videos on the subject. Thank you Dr. Berg and Charles for for changing my life and the lives of so many others. Keep up the great work!

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

How lovely, glad you are feeling good Linda

[@Bgraytful]

So thrilled to see you two together - excellent!. My husband and I came across Weston Price's work & book 45 years ago! We are now 73 and 83 and on no routine medications (none needed), physically active and with an abundant no-dig garden (in the middle of a city lot). Every day we graze the garden for what is on our table. We find that a small urban back yard can grow enough for our table year round -- with only minor supplements from the market. And it does not take hours of work. It takes learning how to grow year round, how much to plant to keep a steady supply, etc. Thank you both for your work continuing to educate people.

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Wonderful to hear!

[@madelinkoh]

gratitude 1; appreciate if you could do a video of your garden to inspire us even more. I would like to follow too. ❤

[@Bgraytful]

@@madelinkoh Thanks, but there are already so many good garden videos on KZbin - this channel being one excellent example (subscribe!). *and I would not know where to post such a video* We use a no-dig approach letting nature do its work (microbes, fungus, worms, etc). Each setting is unique with a different climate and space to grow. But minimal interference (avoid unnecessary & expenseive products), careful observation and a commitment to find natural solutions will go a long way. I grew up in midwest farming country and had to un-learn a lot. Ruth Stout got me going a long time ago! Also Weston Price. Long before KZbin garden videos!

[@foreverpumpkn]

I am SO EXCITED to see these two giants of their fields come together to discuss this fundamental truth! Take this as my infinite request for more collaborations between you two! ❤ thank you!

[@milliethemillinator3154]

Giants?!? The good "doctor" is a giant in his own mind. He's a chiropractor who has fooled a lot of people.

[@aileensmith3062]

@@milliethemillinator3154 And there is a need for all of these negative comments???

[@bretab]

@@aileensmith3062 Yes, there is. People who are taking medical advice from this guy need to know that he is NOT a medical doctor.

[@AwesomeK285]

@@bretabso what, he has never claimed he’s a medical doctor, and he also has it under disclaimer. He doesn’t give medical advice, he just give clues and fact info so that people could choose for their own health. As a matter of fact, his info has helped millions curing their health problems naturally. Speaking of medical doctors, do they ever sit down using their precious time to explain and help you understand your own health, I don’t think so, most would just rush to write you prescriptions and rush you out the door. No need to attack him.

[@aileensmith3062]

@@bretab I did not see medical advice being given. More along the lines of one maintaining good physical health and more due to gardening and using the soil that Mother Nature has provided us?

[@Pixieworksstudio]

What a lovely video! Maybe we should all be looking at our health as if we are an organic garden which needs the best of care. Thank you both, what a great conversation.

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Nice analogy Amanda

[@cedarface808]

It’s been so fascinating making the connection between our human gut micro biome and the soil food web of the earth we come from. They both are so obviously similar and we can learn more and more lessons about food and health from both perspectives. Thanks to both of you for having this conversation. Dr. Berg the gardener is what the world has been needing! Can’t wait to see what he does. I’d love to see dr. Berg and dr. Elaine Ingham have a convo next.

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Great comment thanks

[@gunnell9817]

I have really looked forward to this! My two favorite youtubers together - it can't get any better! Thank you both for doing this 💕 I've been following Dr Berg for five yrs now and thanks to him and keto/IF I've lost alot of weight and also become very healthy. I haven't had a cold or flu since I started, earlier I was sick several times every year. So at 68 yrs of age I'm healthier than ever before. Greetings from Sweden 💖

[@TRuth.T]

Glad for your weight loss. I am a keto coach & love the transformation of others :) I am sad that Dr. Berg is connected with Scientology...

[@aina2165]

@@TRuth.T I am very disappointed to hear this!

[@christinemercier-ossorio8617]

As a bee keeper and biodynamic gardener all of your concerns and efforts are pleasing to my ears and knowledge. Thank you for this important and timely collaboration. There is a important bee sanctuary in Southern Va called Spikenard Bee Farm where I trained. My Biodynamic mentor Hugh Courtney and his homoeopathically trained wife Liz Courtney, both now deceased, trained many many students over the years in the method of using plant and animal derived preparations that heal and nourish the soil. Their location and legacy was out of Woolwine, Va. The formerly affiliated business Hugh brought back to life, sells preparations but they are a shadow of the real thing he produced and taught us to produce. Adding chemically manufactured substances to soil is detrimental and not necessary. Check it out people. God Bless.

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Thanks Christine, this is profound

[@lizcox7286]

Im in VB and have been to Floyd on several occasions. Lots of permaculturists here in VA and growing as well as the the VA Association for Biological farming! WIll have to check out this bee farm, sounds very interesting.

[@Virgorising2]

There’s definitely a ground up movement going on, many are waking up to wider understanding of their own health. Thank you to both of you for imparting your knowledge and helping others on the journey 🙏

[@seanpidduck]

Charles have you ever considered having some of your food scientifically assessed to measure its nutritional value? A video comparing your veg to say supermarket examples would be genuinely fascinating! Thanks for another great video as always 👍🏻

[@Bgraytful]

A similar study was done years ago comparing nutritional content of standard agriculture products and organically produced. It may still be on line. There was clear difference.

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Maybe one day but my problem with scientific assessment is how they give figures, but not the interrelationships between figures, and mostly chemical content without the biological linkages, including in people's guts, so everyone will get something different from a food with any particular analysis

[@fourdayhomestead2839]

@@Bgraytful I saw one on eggs. Nutritional values. It was an eye opening study.

[@WandleHens]

Great to see you and Eric talking about soil health and its importance in the quality of our food. I have watched quite a few of his presentations. I mainly follow a low carb diet with a bit more flexibility at weekends etc. I incorporate loads of vegetables grown on my no dig veg plot. People can be very confused about keto/low carb & think that it is a meat only diet. Whilst it can be meat centric, it doesn’t necessarily have to be. Any diet that puts you into ketosis is a ketogenic diet.

[@laceymiles8455]

This is an awesome video. We need a lot more like this and more studies about this type of thing by people other than governments that unfortunately seem to be more for greed than health. I am not wealthy by any means but would be willing to give a few dollars to help fund some of these studies.

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Nice to hear and I fear your analysis is right

[@smas3256]

Save you money. When money is involved, it will be corrupted.

[@TheAlijoy]

I’m absolutely losing it, the fact that you two know and admire each other 🥰

[@Chet_Thornbushel]

Beautiful discussion! It is great to have an accessible, public platform where these discussions are being had. Not locked up in an obscure book or behind a door somewhere- out here in the public where anyone can get a taste and be inspired to dive into the ideas more deeply.

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Lovely comment thanks

[@cherylannebarillartist7453]

Sadhguru has a huge initiative for soil. Check out his worldwide effort as well?!? If many MANY good and great minds support eachother maybe you can help make a significant difference.

[@spoolsandbobbins]

It’s too bad they’ve started censoring Dr. Berg’s videos. We may all need to move to a better platform…

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Yes I'm familiar with this and I'm concerned too because he is working with the top down model, which I see as completely broken, unfortunately

[@annburge291]

This is such an important conversation that we all could be having with our food producers. I hope Dr Berg gets seriously into the research trials on the difference between hydroponic systems and living soil systems. Walter Jehne has long been a voice saying the difference is profound because with no fungal networks as filters, the plants uptake of heavy metals can reach toxic levels for animals and humans. John Kempf, episode 91 conversation with Stephan van Vliet, advancing eco agriculture, discussed Stephens work looking at the difference of animals grazed on grass compared with animales grazed on a variety of plants including medicinal herbs. The compounds were in the blood and the meat in a very short time. The research needs to be expanded and the results known widely.

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Yes indeed but I'm wondering who funds it. For some, this video has a McDonald's advertisement!

[@glassbackdiy3949]

Facinating conversation, thanks for sharing Charles, there is definately a legitimate conversation to be had regarding the parallels between plant health, nutrient density, and human health.

[@buzzyhardwood2949]

Thank you Charles and Dr. Berg. This a crucial topic we need to act on at every level of food production. Greetings from Montana, USA.

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Our pleasure!

[@lisabaughman887]

What a perfect collaboration. Hope to see more with both of you.

[@nellieosullivan5449]

Two hero’s of mine. Love your work. You two have so inspired me to do my best to live a healthy whole life and have a relationship with microbes in us and in the soil. I have a lot to learn but without giving it a go we can not progress in our understanding.

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Brilliant!

[@beedebawng2556]

Wow! Boy am I happy to see Dr Berg and you having a conversation. 😊😊😊😊😊

[@andersonomo597]

"Grounded" by Alisa Bryce is a fantastically well researched book and a really enjoyable read that looks at soil from a broad perspective. The book is about "How soil shapes the games we play, the lives we make and the graves we lie in". Gentlemen - what a great interview! So much to learn, so much hope! THANK-YOU!!

[@cheryemorgan6462]

2 of my most favorite people that I have learned so much from independently. 3 years ago I started a no dig garden for health reasons. At the time, my husband was in kidney failure and on dialysis. I started growing our own food and he was able to get off dialysis and has maintained for 2.5 years. Thanks to both of you!!!!

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

What a wonderful result and thank you so much for sharing this, I'm happy to have played a small part

[@cheryemorgan6462]

@@CharlesDowding1nodig you are so welcome. I tell his doctors , healthy soil, healthy food, healthy bodies!

[@carolinesemple2298]

I’ve always said you can’t grow good food without good soil. My mum always said a little bit of dirt won’t hurt anyone

[@chrisnewellarts]

This is perfect!! You've both had a huge impact on our family's health. Thank you ❤️

[@grandmasterflash213]

Wow, two of my main sources of information, together!!! What a nice surprise!! I’m literally a no-digging Berg-watcher😂❤

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Nice description!

[@veronicamartinezmedema8273]

I appreciate all Charles teaches us I hope he doesn’t get scammed by Eric Berg. I’m not sure if he knows about the video his son Ian has on KZbin. It was so disheartening to hear the information he shares about his dad for one leaving Scientology and how he conducts his business. KZbin video is Ian Rafalko,son of keto guru dr. Eric Berg. Good to check it out.

[@tubalooney]

That’s exactly what I said. I fear that this ice cold berg is after one thing only. Charles’ KZbinr following. Alas I fear Charles is too naive e to realise this. The flood of oohs and ahhhs from uncritical and credulous commentators smacks of message bombing from Mr Berg’s fan base and colleagues. You’ve been warned mr Dowding….

[@jamesdevlin6373]

Yeah, I'm a fan of Charles, but I've expressed my disappointment on having that charlatan on his channel. Scientology is a very dangerous, evil cult, and Berg is a big supporter.

[@ke3347]

I love Dr Berg! Thanks for having him on

[@johnwilliamblunn7171]

WOW!!! This is absolutely a fascinating and educational experience. Thankyou Charles and Dr Eric. No Dig/Soil and Health is the future! Much more updates please.

[@abc_cba]

oh my good Lord, this Collab came as a surprise! Two of my favourite KZbinrs, interacting.

[@socloseagain4298]

That is truly one phenomenal collaboration!

[@melinda3196]

Yessss

[@poughkeepsie8516]

Ikr! I love both of them and have been a sub for like years. Thanks to Charles my no dig garden thrives and thanks to Dr Berg I lost 10 kg and feel great 😍

[@socloseagain4298]

Thats so wholesome! Keep it up! I do wonder do u mulch your garden with wood chips or straw or anything? 🙂@@poughkeepsie8516

[@jenbear8652]

I heard someone speak recently on compost and state the idea that finished compost is more all the microbes; and the microbes are like little nutrient factories. When you spread the compost on our ground then the factories can get to work building with what’s already in the ground. And maybe, Charles, your comments about the organisms being moist to be activated is part of the process.

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

So interesting Jen

[@toneyjohnson8910]

Thank you Charles for this video. I do believe our health comes from the soil and the food grown in it. This was very informative.

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

I am glad that you enjoyed it Toney

[@Blue1Sapphire]

Two well versed people in their own field, discussing the path to good health is an interesting conversation.

[@tmy1065]

Something you said about watering affecting soil health really stood out to me. I use municipal water for drip irrigation and from the hose which is chlorinated enough I can smell it when it comes out of the hydrant. I can’t rely on rainfall because we don’t get any precipitation in the summer (It mostly falls in winter in my area). I really notice the difference in growth in trying to propagate seedlings. They are stunted and do not have the healthy rootball compared to yours. Once they get in the ground and get going they are fine. But maybe I need to feed the soil more often to offset the chlorine killing off the beneficial microbes. The tiny bit of soil in the plugs is not enough to tolerate the chlorinated water. I could try letting some water sit so the chlorine off gases and then use that on the seedlings to try to get them to grow better. An experiment for next spring!

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Yes I would do the latter, is my choice here

[@immylegend]

I turned to gardening a few years ago to improve my health and found Charles Dowding's most helpful videos, but it was Dr. Berg's videos that started me on my journey to healing that led to my gardening. Would love to see more collaboration between these two men. Thank you to both men for the amazing content that they put out. Cheers!

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Lovely to hear, we have some ideas thanks

[@cordelia7313]

Two of my favorite people coming together and then bringing in another favorite, Dr Weston Price and his foundation just made my day. Great job guys!! ❤

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Nice, thanks

[@alyssabrugman8479]

My grandparents kept chickens and grew vegetables, and made all their meals from scratch every day. They were both lean and long-lived. I don't think you have to look back that far to find people who didn't see it as a lifestyle choice. That's just how they fed themselves.

[@Light-inside-a-meat-suit]

Damn, I love Charles, his channel and his values, I am however conflicted about this video, I used to watch a bit of Dr Berg but after a bit of investigating claims etc it turns out his doctorate is in chiropractory (sneaky misuse of "Dr" imo) and he has some shady stuff associated with him (hes also a Scientologist?) although he brings up facts and has personally provided information that has helped me, you have to take his word with a grain of salt and do a bit of fact checking before building any certainty behind his words. Interesting conversation between the two on this video regardless though

[@Light-inside-a-meat-suit]

@@breaker-one-nine thank you for educating me further and thank you for the correction :)

[@FortviewFarm]

​@joshualeigh3213 you're correct about scientology. That sure is a shady religion/cult

[@NannaCarlstedt2]

Thanks for sharing this conversation with Eric. - It starts and ends with supporting life itself, doesn´t it.

[@KK-FL]

Love Dr Berg. Happy to see he's a fan of my favorite gardener!

[@veronicamartinezmedema8273]

Had the same feeling until I heard his son speak about him.

[@sardar5150]

Oh my, what a treat! I follow both of you. I try growing as much as I can in my backyard in Iowa. I follow Dr. Elaine Ingham and of course, Mr. Dowding. Mind-blowing, everything is so connected. I even look at my soil under the scope. So total soil nerd.

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Sounds great!

[@sufiblade]

Wow, two of the most comforting people to listen to in one place !

[@joegaudette2494]

YES!!! I have thought the same for so long. It’s great to hear more attention paid to this topic. I’ve been following you, Charles, for about 4 years now which is when I retired. At that time my goal was and still is to grow all our own food. No-Dig is huge in helping to accomplish that goal. I’m in zone 6a-6b in Connecticut US. My soil is all sand and rock. Also I only get about 6-7 hours of good sun around time of the summer solstice. The last 2 years we haven’t bought any veg from about March through October and salads through the winter. (I also had a nice harvest of butternut squash last year and this year that we enjoyed through the winter) No-Dig is amazing! Thank you sooo much for all the books, literature, videos & general knowledge. Hopefully one day we’ll get to chat. Thanks again! Joe Gaudette

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Lovely comment Joe, and you are doing lots of great work there, that pleases me no end to hear

[@mrsANGRYh]

Dr Eric Berg being a Scientologist. How do we all feel about that? Love your work Charles. 🌟💗🌱

[@ximono]

I'd argue that one's religion is a personal issue and shouldn't tarnish one's role as a professional. For example, Tom Cruise is a very good actor although a Scientologist. That said, Eric Berg's credentials as a scientist are _very_ thin. His Doctors degree is from Palmer College of Chiropractic, before that he "pursued" pre-med studies at the University of Wisconsin-Parkside. He's not Elaine Ingham, to put it mildly. That said, he seems to have a good take on soil health.

[@mrsANGRYh]

@@ximonoI’ve just found out he’s a Scientologist after hearing a discussion from his son. Interesting news for me.. Ive been a Berg fan for years.

[@jamesdevlin6373]

​@@ximono Scientology is an evil family splitting cult, it's not a Religion. I haven't been able to watch Tom Cruise films for years because of his strong support.

[@jSheapullen]

Very awsome Dr Berg and Charles Dowding! Loveboth. Followed both for years!

[@jaselc]

dream collab. there are few things which are as important as soil health.

[@MrRocksoil]

Thankyou both its good to see things moving in the right direction,the realization that we can only be truly healthy by eating and living naturally.

[@theseeker4911]

This is the collaboration we've been waiting for!

[@endgamefond]

OMG i never thought two best good people that I know having a talk about gardening and health. I have been listening to Eric and i have also been gardening. This is so good

[@credenza1]

Great to see these two inspirational presenters together. There is a sense that freely growing one's own food will be as radical as free speech before long, when one sees the objectives of the people who are manipulating the medical, agricultural and food industries.

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

It's alarming. Grow your own is revolutionary!

[@colette8694]

Very good . Makes me more determined to maintain healthy soil. I found it very interesting drip lines verses rain how important it is to water the soil just not the base of the plant, thank you both for sharing your knowledge 🍅

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

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[@roisin252]

Wow. Two of my favourites together. Fantastic.

[@lindajones9191]

Dan Kittredge of the Bionutrient Food association in western Massachusetts is focused on bringing a spectrometer to market where people can evaluate the nutrient density of their food by using a handheld device that when aimed at a piece of produce gives a reading indicating the nutrient values of the food so consumers are empowered to make better choices and farmers are motivated to grow healthier produce. I think it would be great to see Charles and Dr. Berg speak with Dan, who has a very interesting story to tell, if they aren't already familiar with his work. Charles' comment on the limitations of drip irrigation reminded me of Dan as he treats his farm soil as one organism, from rock wall to rock wall. Such fascinating stuff!

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Thanks Linda! I tried to buy one of these three years ago but they ran out of stock and then I slightly lost enthusiasm because of what I say in the video, it's one thing to measure nutrients but another to know how they all combine and interact, especially with microbes in the body. Yes lots of conversations to be had!

[@lindajones9191]

@CharlesDowding1nodig I never planned to buy one because I believe flavor is the test nature gave us, and I'm trying to grow much of my own food. At home, at least, taste tests let me know if I'm on the right track with my soil.

[@LuvYew]

Charles is so sweet speaking. What a combo ! Thank you guys!

[@kirrileepearson9981]

It makes sense people will try and target Dr. Berg's reputation since he is costing big pharma money by helping to improve the health of millions. Much respect to you both for having these very enlightening conversations... thank you both.

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Thanks for an insightful comment!

[@patricianathan4676]

It's fascinating, a real pleasure to hear these men (who I follow) discussing soil and growing. The other topic not mentioned perhaps because of time is the therapeutic benefit of growing your own and the mental reward of it all. We all need to find a measure of contentment in this world in turmoil. Being outside in sunlight, wind rain, whatever helps our health. Thank you, gentlemen, for this video.WCL

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

That's so true Patricia and a whole extra beautiful aspect of growing your own food

[@peterfrance702]

What a wonderful meeting of minds. Their approach touches on so much: A respect for life that touches on the spiritual. It embodies Iain MacGilChrist's work on the divided brain. I feel that if we are to survive the coming trials we must incorporate these ideas.

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Thanks Peter and a great analogy

[@cynthialouw2970]

This is exciting!!! 2 fantastic people connecting. I pray many get to see their videos before you know who blocks them. Thank you both of you!!! Blessings to you both.

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Fingers crossed!! Thanks

[@CreatingCabinLife]

What a treat! Two of my favorite people in one spot! I am so very grateful to both of you for your knowledge and wisdom and for bringing health to so many people worldwide!

[@andrewtipton5682]

Charles is the world expert, what a knowledge to have!

[@pieretteturner822]

I watch both you guys, always been very interested in the way we sustain bodily health and enjoy being the food grower for my family. There is nothing as satisfying as to be sitting down with a plate of home grown vegetables/salad/fruit, and with each mouthful seeing the year of hard but enjoyable work from producing compost, planting seeds to seeing them flourish (not always), the struggles through the season of draught or flood, weeds and pests and then still the joy of preparing a meal for the family, what can be more important for our families health. Please, please bang on about our soil, what this country can do (UK and the US), we can do so much when we are all on the same page as it was during world war II to produce our food and it's been said we had the healthiest diet back then. I was so fortunate as a child to have parents brought up in that era. I was born in London in the 1960's. We as a large family were very poor financially but boy did we eat well. My parents had a huge allotment at the back of our house (we had no garden only a yard) and produced a lot of our food which my wonderful parents prepared with love. I feel very blessed to have such a good "rich" start in life and to have had the knowledge passed down of knowing what good honest food tastes like and how it can be produced, and this all with my dad working two jobs, not such modern house hold time saving devices for mum, no central heating and cloth nappies to boot! It is a great worry, with parents with children today not been educated enough in such matters and being sold and fed such nutrient dead food in packets of promise, and being denied a healthy body and mind for their and their families futures. Its a crime to humanity. We need to go back to good soil on our farms and gardens for better sustainability for all our futures, human, animal, plant, and microorganisms. There is mega tonnes of human waste being a pollutant in our world and shouldn't be ignored in this equation as a solution, if we go back in time, this was also very much part of the natural chain of things, using what we have (correctly) we have everything we need if we want it enough, if we care enough and love what we have and want to cherish our world for future generations. We need voices like you guys to show the narrow minded and uninformed leaders of our countries to see the light and the possibilities available to us all. Yes, we desperately need our rich soil, pollinating insects, clean water ways, and fresh air of yesteryear and we are set to go, go forward with healthier minds and bodies and a better future. Yes, Eric a UK viewer but not London, I was fortunate to have escaped the "big smoke" to Dorset now. Love your great attitude Charles, great to hear of those books you spoke of and the work they've done, you are a great inspiration to others to get down and get dirty and see the worms, the insects, and see whats going on.

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Wow lovely comment and fascinating timeline, thanks so much for sharing this. It worries me equally that there are relatively few parents with either the means, time or indeed the knowledge to prepare nutritious food for themselves and the children. I wish it were true that our leaders, as you put it, actually cared about this. Everything I see points in the other direction. I'm doing my best at least to reach thousands, millions on the ground, not in the halls of power!

[@lemonyskunkketts7781]

Fantastic! Thank you both for all that you do.

[@fplcelsojorge]

I keep a ridiculously small 6x1m "garden" in my porch, where in 3 years I've harvested kale, peppers, tomatoes, physalis, strawberries, green beans, fava beans, purslane, cucumbers, calendula, nasturtium, lettuce, fennel and other stuff, all in containers. It's my little laboratory, where I learn how to grow stuff in my area (Portugal, 10A). What I like the most about Charles' approach is that there is an intuition, a sharp common sense in his knowledge. I identify with that immensely. I am not so familiar with Eric Berg (I don't like to address anyone by their job, that's why I'm not addressing to him as Dr.), but testing scientifically what farmers see and know by instinct is fundamental. We need a lot more Bergs, and that is proven by how huge his following is. Not to take anything away from him, but if more scientists are into this kind of research, we'll know more about which way to go from here, as most politicians seem to be biased economically in all sides of the spectrum. We need contradicting dietary views studying this matter, as long as they keep away from preaching and spreading false information - aka "beliefs". We need to know, not to believe. The only signs we need don't come from the sky, but from the land where we bury our dead, and that is why the soil has soul. Got a bit carried away, but there you go. Thanks for everything, Charles. You make living better.

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Thank you for your lovely comment and you are doing really well there. I totally agree, only I wonder who is going to fund such research and then make something of it, at the moment it's hard to imagine!

[@fplcelsojorge]

@@CharlesDowding1nodig As an independent songwriter, I live with that financial dilemma all the time. I chose a precarious way of living, but that lead me to growing my own food, though originally out of need ahead of consciousness. Nowadays, that thought process has evolved into something much deeper. Growing your own is something you should learn as soon as you start to build a glimpse of personality. The careless feed-my-tummy route has proven to be quite detrimental to our happiness. It's not about money or space. I learn a lot from seeing videos of people growing stuff on dirt "stolen" from construction work nearby, in so-called 3rd world countries (who is anyone to make a rank of this?). I try not to sound political about this because I honestly believe growing is for everyone, even people on opposite ideologies to mine (do I actually have one?). We do need to come to a place where funding research is a reality and something we crave, and not something farmers need to spend their time on. There is plenty of money to be made by scientists, they just need to realize that they can make it working with farmers instead of big pharma. No conspiracy stuff here, just practical, everyday needs that require some impulse. Sorry if I'm making this subject a bit too touchy, I'm quite tired of raising these issues among my urban friends and getting near to zero empathy on the matter, so I guess that "loneliness" is showing a bit here. Thank you for your no BS approach, that allows you to go deeper than any shovel should :)

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

This is a lovely, and thank you for sharing your deeper thoughts. I look to stay positive, however I do notice that very little new science is conducted outside the corporate mainstream. Even if it is, how do you then then find the information, because the media is so corporate as well.

[@ohio_gardener]

Great exchange! Many years go I read the "Teaming with Microbes" book, and that got me excited not only about the Living Soil Web, but also got me studying about the gut microbiome, and their relationship. The soil is a living organism just we as we are.

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Yes an excellent book :)

[@Ragt0p]

I adore this channel. Mr Berg not so much, due to his scientology connections and predominantly economic pursuits in the health realm. Your other subscribers’ mileage may vary. I’ll back for the next upload.

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Great that we all make our own calls and thank you

[@JohnnyRFarmer]

I feel like I am blessed today. I have been following these two independently for years. What an absolute joy to see them together. My life has been saved by what I have learned from both of them.

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Cool nice to see Johnny

[@franksinatra1070]

That was a great interview. I watch Dr. Berg podcasts regularly and it was great to see one of my favorite gardeners and favorite nutritionists together in a video. Sometimes I think the deck is stack against us in getting healthy foods in the grocery stores. Here in the US I understand they are now spraying the organic and non-organic produce with a preservative called Apeel which is FDA approved but there are a lot of ingredients that are not specifically defined in the labeling. Another disturbing development has been the USDA coming after an Amish farmer in Pennsylvania who's family has been in selling organic healthy foods for decades. The USDA claims the grass fed organic meats that he's been selling is not USDA approved and they are attempting to shut down his entire operation. So far they have failed but it is a concerning trend.

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Oooh that is worrying, thanks for sharing

[@ausfoodgarden]

What a fantastic discussion. I've got to search out those books you referenced. We really need that whole soil microbiome diversity to create tasty and healthy food. Great work guys.

[@danielleosentoski520]

Great information and love the connections they made between health and gardening with high quality soil!

[@BlackJesus8463]

I love it when two of my subs come together! Chat with Traders had Patrick Boyle on a couple months ago and I just love it!

[@0KiteEatingTree0]

Soil is like a human digestive system. It needs the correct amount of nutrients, trace elements, bacteria and enzymes to be healthy.

[@traceywilcox3108]

Who needs tv when you have these two great men sharing their passion for a good healthy life..great work, thank you.

[@papyrophliac]

Two wonderful human beings having a heart warming conversation ~ thank you for sharing with me.

[@clarereynolds9607]

Wonderful to see you two talking together, the sad lack of research and knowledge regarding soil health for plants..for humans, is due to the fact that big pharma would lose out if we were all healthy eh ! A dreadful truth ! I live in the British countryside, I'm very lucky to be able to grow my own. Thank you boys !

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Yes Clare, mad world

[@clarereynolds9607]

@@CharlesDowding1nodig indeed, to actively keep people unwell for the purposes of making money is abhorrent, I followed no dig before I really knew about it, I'd watch the worms etc.being disturbed and I thought..but I'm making them homeless ! So I stopped and years later I find it's about a lot more than just worms, marvellous stuff !

[@dorinnaforest8937]

What a pleasant surprise to see two people that I treasure very much starting a friendship! Loving greetings from a no-dig homestead in Brazil

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Our pleasure and thank you!

[@SerialSpinner-ss]

It is great to see the two of you together! I have learned so much from you both. This is my second year gardening and Charles has been my main teacher. It is ironic that my body doesn't tolerate vegetables well (autoimmune issues) and I mostly eat beef but I love to grow tomatoes, peppers, beans, tomatillos, onions, garlic, leeks, squash - all of it. The majority of the food I grow is given away so I benefit from the exercise and fresh air while making a lot of friends happy who enjoy the vegetables.

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Nice story and I hope you can heal that :)

[@jenbear8652]

Hopefully, as you grow in & improve your soil, you’ll find vegetables that you can eat without issues.

[@itsmewende]

Thank you so much for sharing Dr Berg on your channel, he's great. 10 - 12 yrs ago I had a ridiculous A1c number...9.5. I told the Dr. I WAS NOT going on meds, when I could control it with what I eat. Just so happened this all came about in June, when my first ever huge garden was growing great. In 2 weeks of eating raw, my number went to an incredibly reasonable number..6.2. Talking about hair color, I thought I was a bit nuts thinking mine was going every color it had ever been, no gray, to this day it's hardly showing any gray. Sorry for the novel this time Charles, but it's all a matter of just do it. The body is a miraculous living thing, capable of healing itself of so many issues. Really look forward to any videos with you two in the future.

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Such empowering feedback!! thanks

[@itsmewende]

@@CharlesDowding1nodig You’re welcome.

[@AvaniAmore]

Fantastic...so happy that you are looking into the relationship between soil and human health....

[@smas3256]

One thing that is overlooked is human grounding to the earth with no shoes or wearing leather sole shoes to ground yourself to earth. A gardening channel can't cover everything.

[@craigmetcalfe1749]

You have produced a lot of amazing videos, but this is the best by far!! Congratulations to you both!! BTW I love a book list! Cheers!

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Cheers Craig! shall see

[@pyxis55]

I’ve been a fan and customer of Dr. Berg for years, and of course of Charles! These two together is brilliant synergy.

[@Caroleeena]

Dr. Berg is a Scientologist in a cult who pretends to be Christian. He's not a doctor. He's a chiropractor. Everything about that man is fake, including the supplements he sells according to his own son who left Scientology. Look it up.

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

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[@carolewarner101]

Regenerative farming, beyond organic, soil farmer...just ideas. This was SOOOOOO inspiring!!! Wow. What we always knew intuitively but now the evidence is coming in.

[@akfinn5308]

Two of my favorite You tubers.! Thank You, both.

[@joshuasumrell5451]

Did not expect this crossover. I’ve been watching you both for a while now.

[@fionagrows1848]

Thanks Charles, your video had given me the kick up the backside I needed to get up to the allotment and get cracking on the compost! I’ve been neglecting it but come rain or shine tomorrow I’m going to get it done!

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Good to hear!

[@teresaoftheandes6279]

Can't wait to watch. Love Charles D. and Dr. Berg.

[@steveroberts3713]

I enjoyed this one! I've followed both for a while really great talk guys!

[@alastairsampson5003]

A video with Charles Dowding & Tim Spector of Zoe nutrition would be a good watch.

[@camicri4263]

That's awesome, hearing from 2 of my favorite people! Soil health is huge! Every time you eat a fruit or a vegetable that is grown the way is supposed to, the taste is incredible! It seems that the taste of things are increasingly worse on the market and I am afraid that farmers market are so few and far between and a lot of them don't have actual farmers selling there! Most interesting! Thank you Charles and Eric! Blessings 💕🤗 Keep up the good work!

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Cheers Cami

[@quercus21]

This is a crossover I never expected. Love it!

[@Chris-by8eh]

WOW 2 Guru's getting together a MUST WATCH !!!

[@peggyhelblingsgardenwhatyo7920]

Good morning, Charles and Eric, from Windermere, Florida zone 9b Thanks to you both for sharing your knowledge and time. I've followed you gentlemen and truly appreciate your devotion to helping us all live healthy lives❤ You two are Rockstars in my book ❤Peggy❤

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Thanks Peggy! 🕺🏼

[@odette8905]

Two of my favourite people! ❤❤ What a treat!

[@yvonnejackson1696]

What a wonderful and amazing time to be alive

[@ambreewilliams6585]

I was waiting for this interview, and it didn't disappoint! This was EXCELLENT! So much good info that I'll have to listen again... 😁👍

[@CharlesDowding1nodig]

Nice to hear