Charles-Valentin Alkan - Op. 16, No. 3, Trois Etudes de Bravoure, Prestissimo

Pf: Ronald Smith

[@DottoreSM]

alkan is underrated

[@adyrsebastiaoferreira5572]

Perfeitamente, caro amigo! Uma das causas dele ter sido injustamente subestimado e quase esquecido foi porque era contemporâneo de Liszt e CHopin!

[@metodoinstinto]

Cala a boca. É um bom compositor, mas tirando o excesso de nota, não sobra muito. A harmonia dele é bem ruinzinha, não ruim a nível de Berlioz, mas bem ruinzinha.

[@renan1033zinho]

@@metodoinstinto kzbin.info/www/bejne/iIPMoKWee5ioi9U

[@christophergeorgiadis2745]

Hmm

[@oliviobertolini88]

@@metodoinstinto Só fala merda kkkkkkkkk

[@jerry_moo]

Those are some extreme time signatures man.

[@franklind.roosevelt8598]

Matthew Adrien it is 3/4 actually 3 looks like 5

[@calebhu6383]

@@franklind.roosevelt8598 yeah but the left hand changes to 2/8 at some point then switches back around with the right hand.

[@franklind.roosevelt8598]

Caleb Hu thats also true

[@summushieremiasclarkson4700]

@@calebhu6383 fugggggggg. Why Alkan, why commit such transgressions against sanity?

[@jasonhuang6023]

@@summushieremiasclarkson4700 Alkan is a madman.

[@PointyTailofSatan]

The guy who sold piano strings to Alkan must have made a fortune. lol

[@randomcubing7106]

Piano string snaps only if you BANG it.

[@happypiano4810]

@@randomcubing7106 No. He must have bought like 12 for each key to make this sound as epic as it should.

[@jasonhuang6023]

My favorite part is the trio. So playful and fast...

[@atretochoana8332]

2/8 and 5/4 at the same time damn

[@melonica90]

2:48 That Trio part actually has to be played much faster...Considering the tempo 'Presstissimamente' and Nanasakov's digital recording.

[@TheExarion]

In the performer's defense, that part is very difficult. And Nanasakov's digital recordings will objectively be able to pull off things that no human performer will ever be able to haha

[@melonica90]

@@TheExarion Yes of course! Nanasakov's recordings sometimes seems surreal for human😅. But, it is still slow when pianists take a full speed. Actually, I haven't seen any pianists conquered Trio part fastly and neatly yet(You know, even the notorious Amateur Pianist Mr.Barbaro had struggled to play that part, which sounds doesn't natural). That's the reason why Op.16 No.3 could be one of the most difficult lists of things of Alkan.

[@melonica90]

@Egg MCMUFFIN That's the reason why some Liszt and Alkan pieces section seems impossible for nowadays. But it was possible at thar time

[@Hitherto90]

@@TheExarion "That part is very difficult". That's like saying fish pee in the water when it comes to Alkan.

[@TheExarion]

@@Hitherto90 ok

[@teodorb.p.composer]

Good piece as always. But Alkan is still absolutely underrated and unfamous!

[@s1earle]

Alkan made Liszt appear underrated; pity Alkan stepped down from public showings (unlike Liszt the showman)

[@teodorb.p.composer]

@@s1earle Actually, Liszt wasn't showman at all, he stepped down from public showings many times (when he was 16 he dissapered, and then he came back, but after he couldn't marry Carolyne zu Sayn-Wittgenstein he became a monk and dissapear absolutelly!)

[@s1earle]

@@teodorb.p.composer Disappeared, never the chance, only in his old age when he took minor religious Orders.

[@alexololo6644]

Alkan loved metronome marks and strictly played all remarks

[@LuisKolodin]

EVERY great composer abandoned metronome making. This is documented. Tempo is mood. Allegro means "al leggero", which means to be played in a light way. No reference for speed, since speed is just one of the variables to achieve a certain mood. Pianists idiosyncrasies, piano different types and acoustic may change it completely.

[@scriabinismydog2439]

@@LuisKolodin Allegro in current italian means happy or jolly. It used to define something fast paced. Not sure where you got the "Al leggero" thing.

[@LuisKolodin]

@@scriabinismydog2439 Josef Hofmann book 😒 If you read correctly what I said, I didn't translate the word, I talked about the origin of the tempo indication. Long ago.

[@melonica90]

Prestissimamente? LOL. Only tampo by Alkan. Yes even Prestissimo is not fun enough to him...

[@jasonhuang6023]

I will use it one day...

[@jasonhuang6023]

2:41

[@ismaelcarlos7241]

0:44 this progression

[@karinano1stan]

WTF impossible to play

[@DJStefandeJong]

Impossible? Nah, hard, fuck yes hahaha

[@user-kk4dd2bq3y]

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