Charlie Kirk DESTROYS(?) Critical Race Theory In This Video

Is this the best you've got Charlie? You sure about that?
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0:00 Teaser / Intro
1:04 Part of my strategy for the debate
7:41 Are kids being taught that "Melanin is their Master"?
11:05 Racism can be omnipresent without every element in society being built by and for racists
13:07 Rule #05 of CRT is the most important one
17:29 Do NOT SAY you are the one standing for science, Charlie!
21:40 Is this ACTUALLY what's being taught in our schools?
25:04 He's getting all of this info from that one Smithsonian museum pamphlet...
26:55 A viewer asks Vaush, how "being on time" is whiteness?
29:00 The concept of talking to people to convince them of your positions is not a Christian or a western idea...
30:09 Final thoughts / Conclusion

[@officialasa]

I’m so hyped for this debate. This must be how sports fans feel or something

[@aestheticaddict_]

omg i love ur song cries its on my spotify playlist :O glad to know ur a vaush fan too

[@PHDdad]

I have a friend who’s into making music, if you have good music taste for some reason I feel like you have good political views as well

[@Takkiebos]

Bloodsports?

[@user-qf6vo7jp8b]

Lol it is

[@merrybeans3029]

@@PHDdad it would be so nice if that was true...I thought it was til going to a conservatory. It's not totally off base but there are some loons out there who wrote or performed amazing music, and a bunch more who like it. Bad taste in music is more likely to line up with bad political views than good music taste and good political sense. There are a ton of really privileged people in the arts who just don't get the struggles of regular people, let alone poor or otherwise marginalized folks.

[@Odinsday]

Every time Charlie Kirk lies, his face shrinks little by little.

[@jakubchalupa8510]

technically it's being pulled inside, so it only looks like it's shrinking. After a while, it comes out on the other side and the process begins anew

[@jkfu247]

His face isn't shrinking. His features are moving closer to each other like 👁👄👁

[@Odinsday]

@@jkfu247 He’s gonna become 👁👃👁

[@saliv88]

It’s actually supposed to expand every time he tells the truth.

[@stevenm732]

Hahahahhahaha

[@yabutmaybenot.6433]

Charlie Kirk is my hero. Anybody who can get rich and famous with a face like that shows us all that anything is possible.

[@eldritchowl1061]

Truly an inspiration

[@johan_r59]

Anything is possible if you sell out enough

[@eldritchowl1061]

@@johan_r59 that's the spirit

[@MovieEggman]

Charlie Kirk looks like he was born rich, born with a silver spoon. So he didn’t technically get rich.

[@chrismartin3197]

More like without a face like that! Amirite?

[@joe94c]

Kirk: Jesus was pro western values and pro talking to people. So Kirk, where was Jesus born

[@jasonmatthews52]

He probably unironically thinks Jesus was white too

[@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009]

In the US of course

[@douchebagbrigade]

@@jasonmatthews52 Jesus was a Great A'Murkin Man!!!!

[@johnnyguillotine1673]

Charlie Kirk's forehead so big he doesn't have dreams, he has the i-Max experience.

[@MovieEggman]

Pop quiz: Who’s forehead is bigger? Charlie Kirk’s forehead or Matt Gaetz’ forehead?

[@LukeMcGuireoides]

Oooh...hm

[@_M4X15]

You physically cannot see where you are on the political compass in your profile pic

[@jaylockwood5030]

At least he is not an overweight neckbeard like Vaush and fans

[@PossumBuddy420]

"We don't like Nazis!" *Makes nazi arguement 5 seconds later

[@Crowley9]

"Christ was the greatest communicator." Yes, I remember that part in the Bible where he was upset by all the merchants at the temple, and he began a calm negotiation to arrive to mutually satisfactory solution.

[@andrewraby8008]

I always think of the meme, when someone asks why would Jesus do, remember that flipping tables and chasing people with a whip is within the realm of possibility

[@JohnDoe-og2bt]

@@andrewraby8008 So youre going to ignore the other 99 percent and just act on anger your whole life? Sounds super healthy.

[@andrewraby8008]

@@JohnDoe-og2bt huh? No. I generally don't let memes shape my worldview. What a weirdo thing to say

[@JohnDoe-og2bt]

@@andrewraby8008 Why bring it up?

[@andrewraby8008]

@@JohnDoe-og2bt like, are you asking me to explain the concept of replying to a youtube comment with something similar? I don't know dude. It's how communication works on here

[@sporedoutofmymind]

Be sure to ask him about why he was posting anti-mask memes when his cofounder was dying of COVID.

[@beowyfe]

“He got pretty close to the truth before he started making shit up” That has to be the creed of reactionary politics

[@gentlesandladymen]

Fr 😂

[@brockcharz2104]

26:55 Vaush is so stupid 😂 does he realise asian men and women are on average making the more money in usa than other races, and I'm pretty sure working hard and making money means you are not late to work, ....so is "being on time" now considered asian-ness??? Or by vaush's logic is working hard considered asian-ness, is making money called asian-ness??? Such stupid logic which Vaush is trying to defend, leftist ideas are just as pathetic as far right ideas, both are ruining society

[@stevonwhite8933]

@@brockcharz2104 You just gonna not mention the model-minority situation? They sought after the top people from Asian countries mainly East, but also India and Pakistan. That doesn’t flow over to the rest of Asians in the rest of Asia like south/southeast-west/west Asians. You also fail to mention culturally they have a COMPLETE different situation from Latinos and black people here, many came from higher levels of society. NOT TO MENTION, an Asian doctor may make more on average because per capita, they go onto higher fields, BUT they also make less than Whites who also go into high education. Which the last time I checked is pay discrimination. Only, thing ruining society are people who don’t want to understand the consequences and circumstances have DIRECT impact on communities…

[@brockcharz2104]

@@stevonwhite8933 yes exactly that they have a different cultural mindset, so the main difference is culture, also to answer this question, we need to know what is the stats on asians who were born here? Or been here for multiple generations?? I think you will find that they are also in college at high levels and have low cri me r ates, so this is cultural, not discrimination, would you agree that it is racist to say hard work is asian-ness??

[@erichanson3369]

@@brockcharz2104 You seem to be completely ignoring the principle that @Stevon White mentioned, that Asians who immigrate to the United States are by and large significantly wealthier than the average citizen of a given Asian country, giving these select few the ability to make the journey to the US successfully in the first place. Then their descendants ("Asians [sic] who were born here [in the U.S.A.]", including being "here for multiple generations") are raised in an environment with the resources, enabled by being born into wealthier families, to better enable economic and educational success over time (again, because their families can afford the tools to make that success easier which poorer people don't have as easy access to). The lower crime rates and higher collegiate attainment you mention tend to correlate quite strongly with generational wealth in general; there's no reason this wouldn't be the case for Asians as well as Caucasians. So, no, for the reasons above, Asian U.S. immigrants and their descendants are not accurate examples of Asian cultures and populations more generally.

[@akhiljayanty2141]

Vaush already won the debate

[@lorenzowilliams9832]

Amogus

[@angelgodinez3441]

@@lorenzowilliams9832 Bro dont ever say kid amogus backwards

[@MisterRorschach90]

@@angelgodinez3441 kid among us backwards. What are you gonna do about it angel?

[@thefatherinthecave943]

@@angelgodinez3441sugoma dik *vine boom* *vine boom* *vine boom* *vineboom*

[@angelgodinez3441]

@@MisterRorschach90 Nothing bro you dodged a bullet!!

[@chibiraptor]

The whole point of critical race theory is that Race and Melanin are not the same thing. Believing melanin is your master and believing that race is a social construct are inherently contradictory positions.

[@diallo1347]

Charlie doesn't understand a lot about the world

[@christiantabares6713]

I'm most likely misunderstanding the quote, when Mr. Kirk says that 'melanin is your master' under what context or implication is he using the terms master? Is it biological/ genetic, in that one can't control their nature as its an intrinsic characteristic? Sid he mean that its one of the most or most important socioeconomic factors that society uses to organize/ determine individuals/ groups? Mr. Kirk has not really elaborated much other than the more conventional talking points or vague rhetoric attacks, so the statement feels ambiguous imo.

[@christiantabares6713]

*did

[@Lol-fo2zq]

Damn I kinda look like him, reading comments like this is interesting

[@voxomnes9537]

@@christiantabares6713 The ambiguity is the point.

[@ThePsychoRenegade]

"He was pretty close to the truth before he started making shit up" basically describes all conservative ideologues. Some of them I'm convinced actually know the content but choose to say ridiculous shit anyway.

[@BH-fi1sb]

a good lie is 90% true

[@LukeMcGuireoides]

That's it. They know how it really is but they understand that that wont enrage their base. So they have to make up lies about the issue in order to keep the base om their side. They're charlatans and hacks

[@FerociousPaul]

@@LukeMcGuireoides That's exactly it. Conservative pundits know the facts that they're misrepresenting, they purposefully tailoring their speech to enrage and ignite a fanbase. They need powerful emotions to keep their fans engaged, so they fearmonger for money. Any actual "conservative ideals" they have go right out the window the second it doesn't benefit their narrative. Examples: the police, free speech, corporate autonomy. They have to keep their fans in a perpetual culture war, they don't have anything else.

[@JackgarPrime]

That's been the strategy for conservative pundits for years. Start off with a couple points that are legitimate to disguise what they're going to actually try to say. Then once the smokescreen is up, bring in the bullshit.

[@QT5656]

It's because they can't separate reality from their fears.

[@ericodinson6593]

Be aware Vaush, debating him will be like playing chess with a pidgin. You'll be destroying him but he'll just walking around kicking the pieces all over while shitting on the table..all the while having all the confidence in the world that hes winning.

[@reneebear3641]

Pretty good description

[@benjaminnowack8433]

He described the 2nd law of thermodynamics the way creationists usually do, that is to say incorrectly.

[@LukeMcGuireoides]

Very good description. That's what he always does. He violently sprays verbal diarrhea all over everything and just plows over his opponents

[@shis1988]

So just the pro-Syria guy again? The last one Vaush just left on.

[@harrison85]

This is an excellent mental image.

[@0average_enjoyer044]

most anticipated anime battles of all time: • luffy vs blackbeard • deku vs shigaraki • asta vs dante • ichigo vs yhwach • vaush vs charlie kirk

[@JHammy642]

“Melanin is your master” well, I don’t know what I should’ve expected but it wasn’t that. Very overt, Mr. Kirk

[@officialasa]

Charlie KKKirk

[@ItsOgre]

I have a feeling that Charlie will talk quicker and quicker the more his points fall apart so you can forget the stupid bullshit he said two minutes ago.

[@alexthebat9012]

Throwing out loads of points regardless of their relevance to the argument is ‘Gish-galloping’, just for future reference.

[@SilentCriticism]

Kirk will try to talk over Vaush. He did the same thing to Sam Seder.

[@stevenwilliams9413]

Ah, “Shapiro-Galloping”.

[@brockcharz2104]

26:55 Vaush is so stupid 😂 does he realise asian men and women are on average making the more money in usa than other races, and I'm pretty sure working hard and making money means you are not late to work, ....so is "being on time" now considered asian-ness??? Or by vaush's logic is working hard considered asian-ness, is making money called asian-ness??? Such stupid logic which Vaush is trying to defend, leftist ideas are just as pathetic as far right ideas, both are ruining society

[@Chill-slash31337]

⁠​⁠@@stevenwilliams9413[Insert right-wing public figure here]-Galloping

[@JaysonHere]

Hmmmm Charlie you don’t like critical race theory but you’re critical of different races… curious

[@davidsavage3120]

I believe it’s more culture then race he is on about but yea it’s all bullocks. We need to stop looking at each other as colours, flags and classes and start seeing each other as human beings.

[@JaysonHere]

@@davidsavage3120 true

[@doperagu8471]

@@kg356 bc almost every societal issue, especially in the US, stems from race and its racist history? Slavery, then segregation, then redlining, gerrymandering, school funding. This all goes up until today. When your own grandparents who are alive today were victims of segregation, how do you think that won't affect their descendants today? When the people who suffered this aren't even dead yet?

[@808zhu]

Speaking of faces, Charlie's is bizarre. He looks like a living Photoshop.

[@Kaanfight]

It’s because everyone’s been photoshopping it smaller

[@naterambles8525]

@@Kaanfight it's literally impossible to know whether his face has been photo shopped or not. His face actually dialates when he gets upset.

[@ItsOgre]

Charlie’s face looks like it’s been edited to make his eyes, nose and mouth bigger on his face than in real life.

[@haydenquakenbush8626]

Yeah wtf, why did they do him that kindness??

[@companyincorporatedproduct4335]

I still remember the first day of my high school AP physics class when the teacher just said "Yeah, actually, all of this was just created to preserve racism and white people's dominance over black people, so we're not gonna teach any of it," and then we spent that class period staring at the wall for the rest of the year.

[@Univirsul]

I saw I great tweet about a parent asking about CRT. The teacher says "tell me what CRT is and I will tell you if we teach it". Quickly shuts down the complaint

[@aidenbw5939]

PLEASE TELL ME IF CHARLIE'S FACE IS SHRUNKEN IN THE THUMBNAIL, IT'S DRIVING ME INSANE.

[@kiarash4931]

Its actually correct He did not change it

[@whatausernamethisis8893]

I also wasn't sure if it was or not.

[@Nuvizzle]

I genuinely can't even tell when Charlie Kirk's face has been edited to be smaller anymore.

[@thomasmackelly7685]

It’s always amusing to see kirk pretend that he’s intelligent.

[@andy_182]

Kirk is the intelligent one here tho….

[@Achillusgaming]

The bring quotes idea is absolutely essential. Bring important quotes from every single person he might try to cite. Frederick Douglas, MLK etc etc. He will try to mischaracterize the views of them all using one line from one speech or something their mailman heard them say on the 6th of October 100,000 years ago.

[@benjaminnowack8433]

“Communism is a judgment on our failure to make democracy real and to follow through on the revolutions that we initiated. Our only hope today lies in our ability to recapture the revolutionary spirit and go out into a sometimes hostile world declaring eternal opposition to poverty, racism and militarism.” ― Martin Luther King Jr.

[@jamesnadell7144]

I guess they missed class that day.

[@doperagu8471]

@@jamesnadell7144 unfortunately, these aspects of MLK aren't taught, at least not in high school. I learned a LOT more about MLK and read a bunch of his speeches for a class once I got to college. But beforehand, I didn't know much else besides what these guys apparently know - the whole content of your character quote. ONE quote, normally completely taken out of context by the right. If they actually bothered to read and know anything about him, conservatives wouldn't hold him up anymore as this "see! Look this famous black guy said that we should all be color blind! Judge me by my character, not my skin color. See! He said that!" ... Completely failing to have read anything else he's said or written or investigate further bc that ONE quote makes them feel good and makes them feel like we don't have to do anything else. Racism is gone! Duh! 🙄🤦🏼‍♀️ We need better education in this country.

[@LadyPinkster]

@@doperagu8471 here is the thing though, when it comes to conservatives bring up that one small quote from his " I have a dream" speech. Ask them" why didn't recruiter from Google say something on the lines of hbcus have lower standards, why do they discrimination against African Americans names even when they didn't smoke weed, why did they go out of their way to take the wombs out of the women out of the border than...." These people bring up MLK Jr small quote but do not speak up on things that actually affect black people or other people....

[@larsandrune]

As a religious man Mlk understood Judgment as a really Bad thing. He's infact saying Communism is really Bad but it's what you get for not helping stop Poverty, Racism and War.

[@benjaminnowack8433]

​@@larsandrune From this same speech, "We must not engage in a negative anticommunism, but rather in a positive thrust for democracy, realizing that our greatest defense against communism is to take offensive action in behalf of justice. We must with positive action seek to remove those conditions of poverty, insecurity, and injustice, which are the fertile soil in which the seed of communism grows and develops."

[@verynormalhumans4420]

I honestly think that if Jesus was alive today, Conservatives would hate him.

[@itcouldbelupus2842]

Conservatives are the ones who killed him. They would happily do it again.

[@itcouldbelupus2842]

@@TruthDissident They were good at whipping up a crowd of easily led fools and getting them to call for blood. Seems pretty similar to me.

[@76678-m]

The only thing Charlie “Lil Bits” Kirk can destroy is what little is left of his credibility.

[@HeronSight]

No shade at vaush, but the fact kirk is quickly falling down the ladder of less and less relevant people to debate is sentiment to his deteriorating credibility.

[@vantahawk2834]

It's fine. Physics isn't your strong suit but it certainly isn't Charlie's either. ^^

[@aqwthetroop]

the dude seems to have this cognitive dissonance between saying that religious principles are the bedrock of equality in the west, then arguing that MLK helped fight for the end of segregation in the 1960s. If the foundation of western values, Christianity, is supposed to treat everyone equally then why tf did it take hundreds of years to end the unequal treatment of people?

[@acrazyone1]

Anti-slavery Christianity arose out of the Great Awakening which occurred in the 1700s, but didn't catch on with slaveholders too much, for obvious reasons. At the end of the day, plantation owners needed a justification for slavery, and they took whatever they could get.

[@hgbguy]

@@acrazyone1 not exactly an endorsement of christianity seeing how easy it was to flip on its head like that assuming it wasn't already.

[@hgbguy]

@@TruthDissident uh not sure what that had to do with my comment but ill try address this. If you want to talk about power racial justice takes power away from the capitalist class including those in government because it means they have to pay people equally and often leads to more civil rights that gives power to the people and less to them. People who covet power for powers sake would do slavery if they could get away with it. equality is a litteral opposition to that greed of power and its why theres so much union busting and think tanks thay try to get people divided by race and class so that the majority can ignore the abuse and lower pay of minorities who go unseen. because they know they know that the people are stronger toghether than divided they'll do whatever they can to stop it from manifesting properly. Yknow the divide and conquer tactic of Julius caesar its something like that. Anyway politicians may pander just like corporations do about racial equalities and other justices just to keep in the good graces of the people in a democracy. but if you look at the unchanged laws and biased establishments they've neglected to change along with that empty virtue signalling it becomes obvious that its empty words none of those currently in complete power actually want racial justice. But religion on the other hand is a mind prison that can divide people tell them what to think uncritically get them to believe anything without evidence. Those obsessed with power cling onto whatever works but that doesn't mean what they're forced to use in their rhetoric is indicative of their actual beliefs or reflects on the ideologies they misuse as bad just because they used them to lie. Racial justice is a good thing being misused by right wing dems to hold onto power because people are getting smarter. Religion is a bad thing used by both main parties to abuse peoples trust and destroy critical thinking invented to keep kings of old in power and to this day hasn't truly been dropped. Equivocating these as just the same is very reductive and fails to understand the nuances of each.

[@hgbguy]

@@TruthDissident the first two responses i was essentially saying that already. The conclusion of the other two is just confused. Like lets be clear you're here saying that racial equality is bad because the capitalist class like it. For one they pander they don't actually take meaningful actions to make it equal they just pay lip service. Secondly even if they did this equivocation is like saying because hitler drank water then water is therefore a bad thing. Or saying that because hitler disliked smoking doesn't mean we all need to start smoking to denounce fascism. this is childs thinking but thats essentially what you're doing when you say- "Why do you think they like it hmmm?" Capitalists will do whatever works its just greed plain and simple. Also you talk about racial justice AS IF it divides us for marketing. Under capitalism they'll market to whoever has money thats any group but thats got NOTHING to do with whether we have racial justice or not. The only reason they pander and pay lip service to it is because its often about their corporations underpaying minorities and they want to save as much face in the hopes people fall for it instead of asking for something that takes effort. Anyway you seem to have a traditionalist bent in your arguement so i wouldn't be surprised if thats your actual issue with racial justice. Also some imperialist nationalistic flag its just kinda sus. Also when responding you can summarise points to reffer to them you don't need to copy paste the whole thing.

[@subroy7123]

Vaush should, if it's possible, have a quick conversation with Kristie Winters *before* he debates Kirk. She is an expert in qualitative data and has taught statistics in class. Winters humiliated Carl Benjamin in a debate and some of her points might be useful.

[@hgbguy]

Sad fact is that any data prep while good kirk will dodge and weasel out of acknowledging. I do think hes been doing some research but getting too invested into the data when they might just try rip away from listening can affect your rhetoric. Sad fact about most online debates with people who need teaching the most are terrible for getting info across to the other person.

[@thrashandburn10221]

Stats are good to have if someone tries to 13/50 but only to directly refute the statement

[@leosklein2573]

I choose to believe Charlie Kirk does what he does out of insecurity over his small face

[@unslaadkrosis3489]

Every time he uses the motte and Bailey fallacy, or he strawmans and gishgallops his opposition, his face shrinks just a tiny bit more.

[@highwithhobbs1173]

I love how the audience laughs at him when he says Angela Davis started CRT in the 60's. The guy on the left of the screen had some sort of reaction when the laughing began.

[@mp3dotjpg]

I mean if they really wanted to know what was being taught in schools just ask matt gaetz since apparently likes hanging around schools so much

[@doofy3111]

Good username

[@k_anth]

Based Tyler

[@kmav2213]

Critical race theory is when Barbie can’t say the n word in her own mansion anymore

[@AYouTubeCommentator]

A Fierce Tiger here condemns Charlie Kirk and his surprisingly small face.

[@thoughtvirus9854]

Where's the Turtle? You guys should hang out!

[@LukeMcGuireoides]

Exactly what I was gonna say. If the pointless turtle comments werent enough we now have a wannabe turtle

[@cksskc412]

Lol you could leave Kirk's photo unedited, he is already fucked up enough

[@johnnyguillotine1673]

Charlie's Head is so fucking big I seen people trying to hook a basket to him for a balloon race.

[@xuxuang8574]

What editing?

[@thehand7902]

His head must be like those bags of potato chips. 50% substance but 50% air

[@chucku00]

@@thehand7902 50% _toxic_ substance, tho.

[@alexd4566]

Remember that these are the type of people who call climate change activists “alarmists”

[@d_dave7200]

As a Christian, I'd like to point out that the Good Samaritan is literally about how inaction can be sinful. Charlie Kirk is a joke.

[@falkorornothing261]

definitely. do you think Christ's plan was to die on the cross? it seems obvious to me with his time in the garden leading up to his "capture". Vaush better stay away from christianity in his debate lol. not that I think vaush would ever walk into that trap

[@d_dave7200]

​@@falkorornothing261 Yes. I think the intention there is pretty uncontroversial among Christians. There's a little complexity there with the duality of Jesus vs father God. But the basic idea that this was foretold and expected is pretty clearly laid out. Main thing Vaush needs to do for the debate is to make sure he has his details/facts memorized in advance, since he can't just Google things. His instincts on what is logically flawed in an argument is usually excellent.

[@RC-hv1yx]

@@falkorornothing261 Yeah.. Vaush doesn’t understand Christianity very well. Not that I blame him, it’s batshit. But I grew up going to Catholic School, so I know it all very well.

[@Nana-wi4gi]

@@TruthDissident So how we feelin now

[@zachnesmith]

I remember seeing C.K on Twitter and thinking “there is no way this Children of the Corn knockoff of Beaver Cleaver could be real.” Sadly, I was wrong.

[@LukeMcGuireoides]

Haha, killer description

[@thevenbede767]

The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics does not mean inevitable decay. He must be talking to YECs misrepresenting it like that

[@lvl99paint]

yeah it means the tendency for energy in a system towards being evenly distributed right?

[@thevenbede767]

@@lvl99paint a closed system but yes

[@Cruizinelli12]

The irony of a Christian talking about science and reason in a church is just- chef’s kiss. 🤣😂

[@arcandcardinal968]

Its also funny that the people who are for science also believe that a man can become a women and that a man can become pregnant

[@bonthebunnycat667]

@@arcandcardinal968 "A man can become a women" Do you mean that the man combusts into a bunch of gals? Last time I checked "women" means a bunch of girls

[@fartmaster69420]

@@arcandcardinal968 wow I never knew a man could be multiple women at once, that's crazy

[@o0Avalon0o]

I don't know if it's Vaush or his editor, but damn I love how that into clip catches your attention.

[@Indyawillis85]

Yeah, it's more professional. The Serfs have been doing that for a long time.

[@jiffysquid9]

When Charlie Kirk says "dialectic" I think he's referring to the Platonic method. What's hilarious is that he attributes it to Jesus and appears to have never heard of Plato. "Dialectic is the name Plato gives to his method, to the highest form of thought. In dialectic one examines one's assumptions, one's basic concepts, and one arrives at better assumptions and concepts."

[@acrazyone1]

Dialectic is just a synonym of conversation or dialogue. It's not a word that Marx and Engels made up to describe dialectical materialism. Charlie's using the word normally lol.

[@hgbguy]

@@acrazyone1 use google : Dialectic inquiry into metaphysical contradictions and their solutions. relating to dialectic or dialectics; dialectical. Please don't be this stupid in the future.

[@otto_jk]

@@acrazyone1 the original comment didn't mention Marx even a single time

[@acrazyone1]

@@otto_jk I was more responding to Vaush who implied ck was using dialectic wrong when he wasnt. I was backing up OP in a way

[@lmcd301]

​@@hgbguy "Logical disputation" is another definition though, given by the Oxford dictionary. And you also left out Google's first definition, "the art of investigating or discussing the truth of opinions". Seems close enough to dialogue or intellectual discussion to me. Google even suggests "dialogue" as a synonym.

[@SkepticalJesusOfficial]

🎶 Vaush Rad, Vaush Rad

[@yabutmaybenot.6433]

Vaush is so excited about the upcoming debate he started in max speed, and just adjusted after a few minutes.

[@itcouldbelupus2842]

The only thing Charlie Kirk is capable of destroying is a bowl of mayonnaise.

[@itcouldbelupus2842]

@C Bee bingo

[@reallyidrathernot.134]

"if the right says X, some people on the left follow it" NO SHIT. See how undergrad phil students all honestly endorse moral relativism.

[@naschylobo]

Imagine, if you will, combining Charlie Kirk's incredibly small face with Hasan's incredibly small head. It would be something not yet conceived in heaven or earth.

[@chucku00]

Let's say, hypothetically, that Hank Pecker's head meets Charlie Kirk's face. Then you won't even have to sell your house by the sea if it gets under water.

[@gypsylee333]

I just want to share with you guys how I learned about slavery in 5th grade... My teacher who liked like an older Ghislaine Maxwell dressed in a black leather catsuit with black heeled boots and a big black hat- full leather s&m mommy outfit, she had a leather whip, she turned off the AC in our so cal portable so it was hot, gave us raw cotton to pick the seeds out of at our desk while she ranted as a slaveowner at us and cracked the whip. It sounds too crazy like I imagined it all, but I swear it happened that way.

[@gypsylee333]

@@Takokujin07 I know... I had to tell someone else to get it out of my brain 😂 oh yeah she faked a crazy southern accent during it too, like Colonel Sanders.

[@reneebear3641]

@@gypsylee333 Literally what the FUCK did you just post

[@j.c.jeggis1818]

I'm gonna be totally honest, it sounds like you had a wet dream about your teacher and mixed it up with reality.

[@gypsylee333]

@@j.c.jeggis1818 haha no I'm pretty straight and a girl, and she was not hot. I swear on my cat it happened that way. She was trying to teach us how horrible it was too be a slave firsthand, and just went too weird with it. I'm 35 though so maybe things are better now? Idk, but I had an even crazier math teacher in 8th grade.... At the museum of tolerance I remember they put the kids in the recreation of a gas chamber and release fog and then put you through the tunnel of slurs. Do they not traumatize kids that way anymore?

[@franklinbadge1215]

Charlie: So, CRT comes from critical theory, developed by Frankfurt School affiliates... Me: Ah ok so he knows some shit... Charlie: [goes completely off the rails after that] Me: nvm

[@madeline5493]

Whenever I hear “Frankfurt School” I always instinctively brace myself for Nazi complaints And it didn’t help Kirk to say “And the Frankfurt School, well, they weren’t NOT disliked by the Nazis…” 👀

[@ReichWingWatch]

I got excited for a sec and thought you did the debate early. It’s going to epic, I can’t wait.

[@deejay2267]

IF YOU LISTEN CAREFULLY AT THE LAUGHTER FROM 4:15 TO 4:18 YOU WILL FIND THAT WOODY WOODPECKER IS IN THE AUDIENCE LOL

[@Jarblade101]

PhD in Religion here, I just want to say that Vaush is a bit too dismissive of religion. Its an important social phenomenon that requires serious consideration from several analytical positions.

[@toocool3125]

yeah he is tbh

[@5urg3x]

Don't you hate it how they keep getting away with redefining terms, politicizing them, and subverting the narrative? It's like, every time they do this, we have to waste time talking about it. Every...single...time.

[@uncomfortabletruth5915]

Actually Christ’s was supposed to be sacrificed and actually knew he would be. The basic tenements of Christ’s execution was so that he may die for our original sin so that we may All live.

[@uncomfortabletruth5915]

@@austingoodson1731 I am pretty sure it is predicated on the original sin carried down by Adam and Eve and Christ’s death created a Sort of reconciliation between god and man because we supposedly are forgiven from carrying the sins Of our forefathers. I don’t think it includes sins we commit, as we are still required to confess and atone for those. I am not positive of all this because it’s been some 40 years since I opened any religious texts or Had any religious beliefs.

[@fateless3239]

No, Christ's death was entirely arbitrarily ascribed meaning. The concept of hell and God sending storms to murder people still exist.

[@Alpine_Nightly]

If Charlie's Kirk's eyeballs were any closer together homeboy would be a cyclops.

[@mk-lk7gi]

Kirk speaks to an audience that agrees with him. He doesn't need coherent arguments for that.

[@NEWORLEANSYAT]

You obviously haven’t watched much on Charlie but your feelings right!

[@brianb747]

The internal contradiction that Critical Race Theory should be banned (without ever defining it), while playing the “we need more dialogue” card…

[@tareke586]

I'm so pumped for the debate between Vaush and Charlie Kirk man.

[@UnorthodoxIndividual]

August 6th I think

[@MarquisVegan]

@@UnorthodoxIndividual I thought it was on the 3rd...

[@UnorthodoxIndividual]

@@MarquisVegan You're right it is, Idk why I thought it was the 6th

[@MarquisVegan]

@@UnorthodoxIndividual You had me going for a minute there dude cause I was looking forward to it today. I planned this whole day to have free time to watch it cause the 6th is a Friday and I may be occupied all day that day. 😂

[@UnorthodoxIndividual]

@@MarquisVegan Yeah my bad lmao I have no clue where tf I got that date from, I'm busy too I got videos to edit and shit lmao. Oh well, at least we get to see Vaush hopefully humiliate the small faced man later today.

[@merritt2014]

I honestly blame Robin DiAngelo mostly for making CRT so controversial when it should just be a very simple thing everyone agrees with tbh. Cause pretty much everyone who's anti CRT just thinks it's some Robin DiAngelo shit when it's not at all.

[@Mettle_DAD]

Did he say teachers in NC are being taught CRT so the argument is no longer that its not being taught? Um i would still argue that it is not being taught TO CHILDREN because that was half their argument against it. Who cares if teachers are being given this "training"?

[@journeymanic9605]

Honestly it doesn't matter if you bring Martin Luther King quotes. My liberal aunt was condemning BLM (the organization) for not controlling the movement. I quoted a part of the "other america" speech and attributed it one of the organization leaders and she nearly exploded. I then said "No wait that was Martin Luther King." Without batting an eye she said, "Well King was wrong." A liberal said this. It doesn't matter what King said. He's right when they need him to be and he's wrong when they need him to be. Conservatives will be even more dishonest.

[@casualmime2792]

Lil Charlie really brought an army of strawmen to this talk.

[@neil2444]

Vaush: "Better prepare for my debate with Charlie Kirk.." Vaush 5 minutes later: "Nevermind, I think I'll be fine.."

[@sdc363]

Lil' Bits has gone full bonkers. I mean, he has before, but none of this is even comprehendible. How does Kirk talk to long without even addressing CRT. I get if he's at a church he's spewing religious dogma, but the rest is just... what?

[@TheFhqwhgadsLimit]

26:55 as a white guy living and working in Asia, I've seen all the extremes of cultural views on punctuality. In Japan, everything is governed by the clock down to the literal second. Trains are perfectly timed and people literally time their watches to catch the train they need down to the second. In India, there's a joke about "IST" actually meaning "Indian Stretchable Time" rather than Indian Standard Time. It's just not a cultural norm to arrive "on time" to anything, whether it's a party or an appointment. Time is kind of "Stretchable" - stuff starts late, stuff ends late. It's just not an exact thing. Some of it has to do with unreliable transportation, but alot of is just a cultural thing where stuff just kind of happens in an inexact way. In the Philippines, particularly Manila, it's not so much cultural as it is practical - the transportation system and traffic is such an absolute nightmare that even though you do try your best to be "on time" everybody understands that it's impossible to do, and nobody really questions it if you're running late because they all live the same horrible transport experience.

[@anitrahooper5031]

It also comes from Indigenous & pre colonial societies having a fluid idea around time.

[@turkeyhatman2890]

On my way to church and this man needs to keep Jesus’s name out of his mouth

[@aldenscoconut8785]

Based

[@plarmpf9772]

I can’t stand this notion of Christian conservatism. Jesus’ teachings revolves around loving people no matter who they are, and giving up worldly possessions to help the fellow man.

[@sandshark2]

If anything, Jesus could be considered a modern socialist. He beat merchants for selling within a temple and preached for the rich to give up their possessions because of their greed to keep things beyond their need. If we ever beat conservatism, christianity will turn very socialist and i cant wait

[@plarmpf9772]

@@sandshark2 fully agree

[@turtlenoheart]

This is the first video-commenting before watching-from you that I'm watching and I'm here because of your recent appearance on Tim's podcast with Charlie. Although I do not know what I'm about to see and hear, I wanted to let you know that you've earned my respect.

[@jemelchellal2375]

Thats how I started, and then I turned into a socialist lol

[@MisterRorschach90]

I’m beginning to feel really sorry for Charlie. This debate is basically going to be like what would happen if you put kid goku from dragon ball against current adult goku from super with mastered ultra instinct stacked on top of super sayian super sayian god, and kaioken x20. Charlie will make a point, but before he is even able to finish the point all we will hear is just a zip across the screen, and his pupils go white, and then the after image of vaush’s rebuttal will finally appear for everyone to see. Everyone in the audience will be confused. But the trained debate bros will know what happened. They might not be able to debate at that power level, but they can still follow it with their eyes. Charlie’s advocates will look at each other and yell at Charlie to transform or use his ultimate attack, but his handlers will turn to them with their hands on their brows saying “he’s been using those techniques since the start”. Charlie will even try and use the real life version of potara ear rings and fuse with a smarter conservative, and the mods will allow it after vaush just motions with his hand to bring it. Vaush will release an argument so powerful that it destroys the metaphorical potaras. Then at the end of the debate when Charlie is trying his best not to show how utterly defeated he is, he will snap and try to destroy the planet, because if he can’t win no one will. This isn’t anything new though, because conservatives have been trying to destroy the planet and kill their voters for some time now. Now I want to watch dbz. Lol

[@pphilosophy2156]

Pretty sure Plato pre-dates Jesus and Plato was the earliest use of dialectic as far as I remember.

[@user0-d2r]

14:26 If Christ was the greatest communicator everyone on Earth would be Christian right now

[@nmonye01]

Charlie Kirk: Angela Davis is the worst thing for academia Regular people: You've never been to college...so how would you know?KZbin is not academia. What a clown.

[@T33K3SS3LCH3N]

8:30 one VERY important point: Conservatives always claim that progressive theories try to make "you", the individual, feel like a victim who is entitled to compensation. That's NOT true. They generally aim at two different things: 1. Empower individuals to demand EQUAL treatment when they are being discriminated against - something even conservatives can't argue against in principles. 2. To help *others* who are worse off in society in general.

[@zoeywitz6884]

Wow, Kirk is just straight up lying.

[@davidphillips5299]

“The problem with CRT proponents like Herbert Marcuse is they don’t believe in dialectic.” Amazing accuracy. Astounding.

[@manchesterunited9576]

That pronunciation of "Marcuse" had me dead

[@diallo1347]

If it wasn't so dangerous, Charlie Kirk's ignorance would be almost impressive.

[@BadReligi0nFan69]

Charlie Kirk mentioning the Second Law of Thermodynamics in a church is a joke I don't think South Park could have written. Apparently this is an argument oftentimes Creationists use to assert that evolution of organic life cannot occur.

[@Sound_Judgement]

I wonder what Christian Conservatives, who love to cite people like Augustine and Aquinas, would have to say to this Aquinas quote: “It is not theft, properly speaking, to take secretly and use another's property in a case of extreme need: because that which he takes for the support of his life becomes his own property by reason of that need.”

[@ninjaishproductions2.053]

Gotta love how the whole thing was a strawman

[@SuperNeilAdams]

I liked that Charlie's example of science was a handful of the most basic concepts you learn in physics at school.

[@sbushido5547]

He couldn't talk about evolution, though. Since the people in his audience probably believe that it's the work of the devil.

[@bradrusselburg7553]

I would love to see the first half of a Vaush debate just go down socratically. Charlie Kirk would talk himself into multiple logical fallacies/loops

[@taiyouyuuko9830]

Is your debate with Charlie Kirk coming out soon?

[@Sneaker3719]

He's doing it on Tim Pool's show Tuesday night. You'll be able to watch it on either Timcast or Timcast IRL. Whichever one hosts the VODs of the streams.

[@taiyouyuuko9830]

@@Sneaker3719 Thanks

[@Sneaker3719]

@@taiyouyuuko9830 Welcome.

[@Indyawillis85]

I can't wait for this debate. Feels like I'm 5 years old and waiting for Christmas!!

[@Pandaghus]

The Calvin shoutout was a little cheeky, given that his philosophy explicitly rejects the traditional Christian idea of the sanctity of life.

[@thatsbougie]

Not to be a thin-skinned leftist and all but "Melanin is your master" is incredibly offensive holy shit

[@Alex-cw3rz]

When does he debate Charlie?

[@sagerdood]

Im excited, easy dunk

[@michaelwerkov3438]

not necessarily true. charlie talks fast and butts in. vaush is going to have to be a full on asshole the likes of which the left hasnt seen since TiM PoOL wAs a LiBeRAL

[@thejfoshow1320]

15:07 if saying white peoples shouldn’t be inactive on racial issues is totalitarian then what the hell does that make the pull yourself up by your bootstraps bullshit lmao

[@m.fraguelaxd2546]

"Just stubbed my toe on crt, fuck this shit" - Charlie Kirk, probably

[@friendoftheshow8117]

Gonna be fun

[@myaxalienn]

Angry Kirk fans have entered the chat 💀

[@mlo3784]

Charlie Kirk = the poster child for the Dunning-Kruger effect! *smh*

[@MadeInHistory]

China actually developed a bit later than other areas, but we generally regard Mesopotamia as the first civilizations along with Egypt. The Indus Valley civilization sprung up soon after, then China along the Yellow and Yangtze Rivers.

[@k633]

Vaush , why do you have a problem with age of consent? More importantly why do you feel like it should be lowered?

[@alvinanis3006]

CRT the new magic word in McCarthyism

[@haydentcem]

“What built western society was the BIBLE” Ancient Greeks: The fuck did you just say?

[@azncisg]

I've misread the "melanin is their master" in the timestamps as melatonin and my legit first thought was "a weird way to phrase it, but yeah, I think we should teach kids the importance of good sleep"

[@mauser8087]

VAUSH IS CLUELESS🙄 Don't Walk, Run from VAUSH