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"The first time I ever really listened to Kyle Kulinski’s show was in the back of a cab last summer. The driver had his phone hooked up through the stereo and was pumping out an episode through the car speakers - loudly, as if looking to convert a captive audience.
“Do you like Kyle Kulinski?”
The driver, Ahmed, was a recent immigrant and apparently a die-hard fan of Secular Talk, the political talk show that Kulinski broadcasts on KZbin. I told him, yes, in fact. I do like Kulinski, had come across his show several years ago, and, all things considered, he seemed pretty good.
“He understands what we’re up against,” Ahmed said. “Like Bernie.”
But I was surprised to hear Kulinski’s name mentioned in the same breath as Bernie Sanders, particularly with such adoration. Because what I did remember about Kulinski’s show struck me as mostly capital-P “progressive” takes on the news - the left wing of the Netroots crowd more than the democratic socialism Sanders has popularized.
It’s an impression that wasn’t entirely incorrect.
“I have no time for philosophical, airy bullshit,” Kulinski tells me from his home in Westchester, New York. “I don’t want to hear about Lenin. I don’t want to hear about Marx. I just want a super plainspoken, straightforward agenda with a straightforward way of selling it.”
With over 800,000 subscribers and nearly 670 million total views on KZbin, selling a progressive agenda is clearly something Kulinski knows how to do - even Democracy Now, the long-standing flagship of progressive media, cannot match his reach on the platform. Chapo Trap House can certainly boast a wildly devoted fan base (and a not insignificant degree of media influence), but their audience is roughly half the size of Kulinski’s.
While Secular Talk might be more likely to be looped in with the progressive networks around Air America and Pacifica alums like Sam Seder than the more resolutely socialist world, Kulinski’s fiery rhetoric, razor-sharp class instincts, and knack for withering takedowns sets him apart from his peers. Judging by his rhetoric alone, he’s closer to a Eugene Debs than a Chris Hayes.
But unlike Hayes, Amy Goodman, or his friend Cenk Uygur of The Young Turks - who began airing Secular Talk on his web network seven years ago - the thirty-two-year-old Kulinski is virtually invisible in the mainstream media. Despite his enormous fan base, his show has never once been mentioned in the obligatory trend pieces on “the Millennial Left” pumped out by the prestige media. Nor has Kulinski’s name ever popped up at all in the New York Times, Vox, the New Yorker, New York Magazine, or the Washington Post, despite his leading role in cofounding Justice Democrats, the organization widely credited with sweeping Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the rest of “the Squad” to power.
Just last week, his Wikipedia page was deleted. The reason? “There is very simply no [reliable source] coverage of this person,” according to one moderator. In new media, he’s king - the Sean Hannity of the Berniecrat left. In old media, he’s nobody.
I suspect there are a few reasons for that. There is nothing “cool” about Kulinski’s show. (As a friend put it, “‘Welcome to Secular Talk’ sounds like something you’d hear on Egyptian radio.”) His no-nonsense social-democratic politics won’t get him much cred with the Full Communism crowd. He records his show not in Brooklyn or Los Angeles, but in a studio he built himself in his modest Westchester home. His hair is too groomed and his taste in clothes too preppy to qualify as “Dirtbag Left.” Nor has he ever attended an n+1 release party. “Not only have I not attended one,” he says, “I have no idea what that means.”
And yet he’s astonishingly plugged-in for a young man in the suburbs. Wondering how Sanders ended up on the Joe Rogan Experience? Kulinski, a frequent guest on Rogan’s wildly popular show, introduced them. “You make the most sense to me,” Rogan told Kulinski on a recent episode. “You’re a normal person.”
Much like Sanders himself, Kulinski’s show has a massive audience that just doesn’t compute with our media’s understanding of “what the kids want” or even “what the left-wing kids want.”
It’s probably for the best - the very woke and very WASP-ish decorum haunting much of the media world is nowhere to be found in Secular Talk. “Corporate Democrats over-focus on identity as a trick to divert you from the issues that unite us all - class issues,” he said on a recent episode.
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[@the_konami_kid]

This is why Charlie Kirk usually debates freshmen college students; he can’t handle his plate at the adult table.

[@the_konami_kid]

@@RichardTater facts!!

[@robertlanglois7860]

Exactly what I was thinking. 😂

[@trevorgrover5619]

His tiny face can't handle the adult's table either

[@montamiddleton9318]

​@@RichardTaterA lot since he usually resorts to calling them stupid or telling them their parents are liberal hippies. He gets his ass handed to him more times than he shows his peanut brained incel buddies.

[@akmal94ibrahim]

​@@RichardTaterthis is why I think everybody who gets randomly interviewed to whip out their phones and start recording too.

[@Mswordx23]

Kirk is literally telling on himself that he doesn't care about issues unless they personally affect him.

[@ullebor]

Typical conservative perspective.

[@jesmarina]

True. Conservatives in general, not just Charlie.

[@BoiseLou]

Charlie Kirk does not understand empathy or humanism.

[@kayiness]

At all. He's completely detached from other humans and imo that includes his kids.

[@BoiseLou]

@kaseyines It's also weird focusing so much on not caring too much about other countries because it's meant to mean you care less about your own. How, exactly, does he want people from other countries to feel about America? Wouldn't he prefer it if foreigners actually cared about him as well? Treat others as you would like to be treated. With care, respect, love, and dignity.

[@user-yl3mp7um6k]

He be NAZI

[@mishacoins7361]

FACTS

[@andreseh87]

He’s a little sociopath. Isn’t he also childless?

[@paws4mercy643]

What about the 18 yr old who joins the military and has no children yet ? They sign up and put their very lives on the line for this nation and are childless. DONT THEY HAVE IN INVESTED INTEREST IN AMERICA ???

[@bretEdwards]

great point

[@kenmvilla]

That was literally me 28 years ago. To think that I am less of an American than people with 20 kids is just a brain dead take. Kirk is just trying to fit JD Vances square peg in a round hole

[@seanmurphy3753]

Yes and his name is Tim Walz. Look it up.

[@dontfearrr]

@@seanmurphy3753 walz the fraud that did nothing in the army for 24 years 😂

[@23TDJ]

I don't need personal stakes in order to care and fight for things because I have this thing called empathy.

[@afterhourscinema782]

"Charlie Kirk runs into BUZZSAW..." 😂 Damn it, Kyle!! I was hoping it was literal

[@rustinusti]

These titles get better and better. "Trump bends over and SPREADS IT for Israel" is still my favorite.

[@dpatt6175]

Wow

[@rustinusti]

These titles are so good. "Trump bénds over and SPREADS IT for Israel" is still my favorite.

[@Ellieempress]

😂😂😂

[@afterhourscinema782]

@@rustinusti A true classic. I was actually a bit pissed off because I was like "Damn it, Kyle! I didn't need THAT image in my head" 😂

[@afterhourscinema782]

The perfect comeback is *"So Charlie, do you want leftists having kids?"* If he answers "no", he's a hypocrite. But if he answers "yes", his audience will be pissed 😂

[@billwilson9602]

Since when do right-wingers care about looking like hypocrites? They're shameless.

[@Opheliakami]

He thinks their politics will change if they do.

[@luodeligesi7238]

Kirk's argument breaks down at 5:30 when he admits that parents will look out for their kids over the country - so then how are they the ones best suited to making decisions for the whole country??

[@afterhourscinema782]

@@Opheliakami And statistically speaking, he'd be wrong yet again. If the parents are conservative/liberal, the kids will likely be too. If the parents are Christian/Jewish/Muslim, the kids will likely be too. Poor Charlie but himself into a "no win" situation 😂 because he's too cowardly to admit what he REALLY wants. Only white, Christian conservatives to have more kids and that's it.

[@Madway]

@@luodeligesi7238 I think their view is that having/raising kids magically gives you some type of super compassion that makes you hyper aware of ("real") issues and also turns your problem solver perk on.

[@RR-in7do]

I became a progressive/Bernie Sanders supporter when I started doing pretty well for myself and realized I wanted to actually benefit from all the taxes I paid. I didn't want it going to bail out corporations and wars.

[@a5cent]

Paying taxes doesn't hurt as much when they are spent on things that benefit you.

[@CC-vq1yg]

Very similar, I want my taxes to benefit myself, and my community. I got into supporting Bernie when I found a politician whose ideas matched my Christian values

[@DavidPysnik]

Great point. You’re going to be paying taxes regardless, so they might as well go for good causes that help individuals, our communities, and the country.

[@RR-in7do]

@@CC-vq1yg I will never understand how the Christian conservative-right fell for the least christ-like man alive.

[@a5cent]

@@RR-in7do Why don't you understand? Trump has given them exactly what they always wanted. Roe v. Wade was overturned. He stuck the US with the most conservative and activist SCOTUS ever, which we will have to endure for a generation. Republicans have been promising them both for decades, but Trump got it done. What's not to like? They haven't fallen for anything. Most will concede Trump is a very imperfect human being, but in their eyes he is the perfect president. God works in mysterious ways (which can be used to explain away anything).

[@SJ_Kravitz_602]

I'm a child free woman in my mid 40's who has always been liberal. I have nieces, nephews, and God children, and I became even more liberal when I became an auntie. I care deeply about their future as well as the rest of younger people. I also still have to live here, so yeah, I'm invested in making the county and planet a safe and better place for us all.

[@ffsf739]

Franco had a daughter. Mussolini had kids. Papa Doc had kids. Mao and Stalin had a bunch of them. Idi Amin had 43!!!!!!! What does that prove?

[@adventuroushermit2590]

Kirkwad must think Ghengis Khan was the epitome of a righteous man

[@kamran-ug9eh]

Genghis Khan had millions

[@ericgiberson2877]

George Washington had zero. I assume CK looks reverently at GW...

[@835FPV]

Kirk’s viewpoint betrays a dangerous flaw in conservative thought, that something only matters if it’s happening to people they know. It’s exactly why conservative politicians turn “pro-gay” or at least less hostile about it when their kid comes out to them. They see issues outside of their immediate sphere as “abstractions” when it’s really just “stuff that other people experience”. I think it comes from a distinct lack of empathy beyond their own sight. Clearly it’s a weakness.

[@wunnell]

This is exactly why we say that conservatives don't have empathy. They bristle at the idea but it's not really empathy if you only feel it for people in whom you see yourself.

[@JaviJavi444]

Well said!

[@covfefecoomer]

@@wunnellthat, and because testing and polling demonstrate they consistently display lower levels of empathy and higher disgust responses lol

[@azzat-9046]

I agree and was thinking this. It's really an out of sight out of mind thing until it affects them or someone in their circle.

[@YesRowntree]

💯!!

[@allieboesche123]

The argument that having kids will make you conservative is the same as you will be conservative when you get older. Its actually the opposite for me.

[@toulousegoose1150]

Same. I consider myself Independent still but the older I get, the more leftward my positions go.

[@alexalvarez1432]

Same- maybe a little less testosterone let’s you think a bit more clearly LOL

[@ardemua]

Boomers were liberals when they were young. But Kyle thinks they are conservative now.

[@Lord_Bibulous]

​@@ardemuaBecause too many turned into selfish aholes.

[@bendyrland7213]

Me too. I'm a 47 yr old white guy.

[@educatingfool216]

So people with no children wouldn't care about their parents, brothers, sisters, aunties, uncles, nieces, nephews, friends and other people's children. Kirk and his mob just have turned further away from humanity.

[@SubnetMaskedMan]

That's a ridiculous comparison, children are wholly dependent on you. Even if you have elderly parents as dependents it's just not the same, you won't think of their future in the same long-term fashion as you would your children.

[@heyrakorzlar]

They just flatout admit now to be tribalists.

[@andreseh87]

These are psychopaths

[@shadow_td]

​@@SubnetMaskedMani care about my younger brothers future. I care about my own future and my nieces future. Who the fuck are you to decide what matters to me and what doesn't...?

[@SE-gs6gd]

@@SubnetMaskedManyou can care about the lives and futures of people who didn’t come out of your body. It’s called being a good and decent person. Also if you believe in a God it’s called taking care of your fellow man as God would. That argument is wholly ridiculous

[@CCJJ160Channels]

I’m not marred & don’t have kids, I pay a sh-t ton in taxes. I deserve a say in this country and how those dollars are spent

[@dermotlynch2223]

Kirk is right, Iraq was invaded because Dick Cheney was just overflowing with empathy. Before he had kids, Kirk would run, in an active shooter situation. After he had kids he would throw other people's kids at the shooter to protect his own.

[@bretEdwards]

I dig the biting sarcasm!

[@spoonsmith9506]

I was a christian conservative. Then I had a daughter and became an atheist liberal. True story.

[@bradfordmitchell3135]

🧢

[@GOPSlayer]

I was a step dad in my mid 20s and was eventually kicked out and broken up with by my Evangelical ex and her family because I dare question their beliefs. I'm still not over it and it was 8 years ago. Honestly I am glad Trump has conned and deceived the Evangelical community. It couldn't happen to a more deserving group of people.

[@timecircle8420]

Same. Conservative politics doesn’t mix with parenting.

[@student99bg]

It is hard to subscribe to a women hating philosophy when you have a daughter

[@student99bg]

​@@timecircle8420 and conservatism doesn't mix with women well being, it is hard to be a conservative when you have a daughter. On the flip side, these people have mothers, sisters, cousins and they are still conservatives

[@Bupp2577]

It's like he's saying he had no compassion for others and the future until he had kids. Most people just walk around with this compassion. He's saying he and everyone else is void of it until they have kids. Crazy

[@aileenpi73]

Weird

[@SisterPain]

are we sure he has kids?

[@GaryLove-v8g]

Empathy, compassion for others are not in hisvocabulary. Yes weird

[@theaviationist.5719]

Kirk has no children, if I am correct..

[@theunholinesswithin70]

I'm a single adult and my ideas are far better than Charlie's. I'm not authoritarian.

[@theunholinesswithin70]

So, nobody even asks me? I appreciate the support, but still...

[@MiguelPerez-zx2wg]

Funny how the Right wingers are just fanatics of the family values but people like Ayn Rand die without have kids and even advocate for people stop having children.

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

​@@theunholinesswithin70what are your ideas? Although there's a 50% chance KZbin will delete my comment for no reason so you might never see this

[@nathanmiller3891]

Single cat daddy here totally agree

[@theunholinesswithin70]

@@michaelcorcoran8768 Well, nobody wants to leave YT so... Inflation being one of the main problems: I say we create anti inflation cards: Like credit cards, only they ring past prices of every product up on the device at the store. The border: Build agencies wherever needed, to take the illegals in for questioning-To learn why they've come to America, and figure out how to solve the common denominational problems. I have more if you're interested.

[@mrgaudy1954]

If you are worthless unless you have children, aren’t your children also worthless unless they too have children? If we extend this out, as everybody’s line inevitably ends, aren’t we *all* therefore worthless?

[@TheRealTrueCrimeAnalyst]

I see you, existentialist.

[@ryandegrave8978]

As a father of 5 (3 biological and 2 from my wife), with number 6 on the way, I want all of my kids to have the same opportunities and support. I can't dictate where they will end up, but I can give them the same opportunities and the same support. I can show all of them the same love and also discipline them equally, and without bias. I can give them the same chances to eat healthy food, ride bikes, learn to swim, and give them all medicine when they're sick. It is my responsibility as their father to give them all of those things with every bit of equality that I can reasonably manage. I have a duty to take care of all of my children to the best of my ability. I think the government has the same duty to take care of its citizens. They can give everyone the same opportunities to get an education, have enough to eat, and get medicine when they're sick. And if they can't, they damn well have the duty to try the best they can. I could never look my child in the eye and say, "Son, I'm sorry you're sick. I could go get some medicine, but I want to go to the range tomorrow and I decided to spend that money on ammo." I'd sell my gun and the shirt off my back to buy that medicine if I had to, because that's what duty is. That's what people like Charlie Kirk don't understand. The American government has a duty to us, the American people. Becoming a father only made this more clear to me. Even still, I would like to think that if I never had kids, I would nevertheless believe that other people's kids are people too, and deserve to be treated as such. I used to want universal college and healthcare for me and my fellow Americans. Now I want those things for my kids and my fellow Americans. I don't really see a difference. Would I protect my kids first? Of course. I'm still human. I have a personal connection to them. If I saw someone else's kid in danger, and I could help them, I absolutely would because why the hell wouldn't I? Then again, I can't really expect Charlie Kirk to wrap his mind around any of this when he didn't even think about my younger brother, the single guy who doesn't want kids but has 7 (soon to be 9) nieces and nephews that he skates and plays video games with. Kids that he's been around their whole lives. Are we supposed to believe he doesn't care about their future? Please. This is so lazy. I guess there aren't enough people mad at Bud Light anymore, so he had to throw my brother under the bus. Who's next? My wife is part Native American. Maybe he has something to say about that?

[@edwardmemwah1610]

It's sad that it requires having children to make rightwingers care about people other than themselves.

[@cl8804]

empathy is one hell of a drug

[@luodeligesi7238]

Judging from Vance, Trump, and Elon's relationships with their kids, even having kids doesn't change their selfish views

[@wannolumpkiin6659]

And even then, only THEIR children. Charlie can’t even comprehend the idea of giving a shit about others

[@TruRedCRIME]

BINGO EDWARD, WELL SAID

[@Russelshackleford]

Exactly, they can’t fathom giving a fuck about the future of a society if they don’t have skin in the game.

[@Rumplesti1tskin]

I have a boomer dad, and he had five children and about 15 grandkids. He couldn't care less about future generations, and he has come out and said as much. I have asked him specifically isn't he concerned about his kids and grandkids lives, and he said, "I'll be dead." And that's the mentality I have gained from conservatives, regardless if they have kids or not. Bottom line, conservatives and Republicans are only interested in the immediate future. They have made that exceptionally clear. Charlie Kirk is just trying to push a narrative.

[@Ruby_Eve]

Hell, not even the future, just their future.

[@BlueBlur24]

Sounds like a deadbeat to me. Sorry to hear your father only cares if he can drink another day away without a woke beer.

[@a5cent]

Ugh. Sorry to hear that. Revolting.

[@michellereed3272]

My Dad votes for Republicans because there’s an R next to their name, despite having four daughters, five grandchildren and one great grandchild. He doesn’t think about our future whatsoever. He doesn’t even agree with the most controversial Republican policies, but he still votes for these ass-clowns because of this sense of partisan loyalty. Charlie Kirk is just a bullshit propagandist.

[@serenesista]

I’m just waiting for the day that all boomers are gone.

[@aYTperson]

childless catperson here. i'm 44. i possibly have 44 years left on this planet. to say that i'm not invested in MY OWN future, is insane.

[@bradfordmitchell3135]

Yup you hella failed

[@heyrakorzlar]

@@bradfordmitchell3135 Sad worm

[@brandonfitzgerald-eo3tk]

​@@bradfordmitchell3135be quiet

[@bradfordmitchell3135]

@@heyrakorzlar 🧢

[@JacquesduPlessis11]

​@@bradfordmitchell3135"Everyone who makes different decisions than me is wrong"

[@l-dog]

That leap from wanting to help people to starting wars in Iraq was actually wild. I don't even understand the mindset. I can't even fathom to put myself in his shoes to arrive at that.

[@BrandonCasteel-hn9qb]

Basically Charlie believes having children builds empathy. You either have it or you don't, having children doesn't make that difference.

[@GhostPantherPodcast]

I have a completely traditional family-wife, 4 kids, 3 dogs, 2 cats, own my house on 1/3 acres. I’m an anarchist leftist.

[@michaelmorrow607]

So you're not an anarchist leftist, you're a mid-tier democrat who likes to cosplay as a rebel, got it. Go on and leave the fight to the big dogs, you go pay taxes on your land and enjoy consumerism while we actually make change.

[@jujutrini8412]

✊

[@Shzl47]

no, not like that

[@markpinciotti3705]

Same, SAME!!

[@kainhall]

Same.. but single Well armed liberal

[@dariusemmanueltherumblegro7240]

Kirk's face can only shrink for so long

[@GOPSlayer]

YES!!! THIS!!!!!

[@ryanamendt8363]

Application of a fist may ameliorate that.

[@nathanmiller3891]

Such a big head with Hella lot of nothing in there

[@mishacoins7361]

HAHHAHA

[@giancarlocoustenitzoff1640]

That's when his head starts swelling 😂

[@jasonmendelson7717]

Someone should ask him “Why should we listen to the Catholic Church then?”

[@teresawww]

TYT lets him slide on the issues you've brought up, and it's so frustrating to me.

[@robiboo6928]

Cenk and Ana are grifters they don’t actually care about any of this .

[@nUmBskulLL]

Live debates are harder than they look

[@theaviationist.5719]

Because it’s a live talk. You can’t catch / address every talking point in real time. There is a time constraint and many ideas and points you would want to articulate but you ain’t got time to say everything. That’s why whenever you are done with a debate you all of a sudden think look back and say to yourself “I damn I should have made this and that point, I should have been much more articulate in this and that point. How did I miss debunking that talking point from my opponent etc”. Retrospection. But longer form debates / discussions are better as everyone gets the time to iron out their points in more details because you have more time to think and form your argument much better. 😊🤞

[@timr32]

I'm a old man been voting every election since age 19 in the 80's I've NEVER known anyone who's changed there politics after they had kids.

[@edwardmemwah1610]

If we help our neighbors with progressive policies, then we don't have to fear our neighbors like rightwingers do.

[@MrBBub]

I have 2 kids, now in their mid-20s. and I have gotten progressively more progressive as time has gone on. If having your own kids does anything for you, it helps you empathize with people whose kids are hungry, victimized, murdered, bombed, etc. If that pushes you to the right, you have serious psychological issues.

[@ojalajim]

Okay wine mom

[@Rowsy91]

From my experience people tend to get more conservative as they age. Obv not true for everyone im 32, probably voting conservative first time ever in 2029 for canada. although definitely not a "conservative" just hate Trudeau and carbon tax but point being older people i know ten to all be more an more conservative, not progressive. Progressive voters here are usually just out of High School. Maybe thats canada though

[@mookiestewart3776]

@@Rowsy91this trend is statistically changing . Several studies have been conducted on millenials who are starting to get a bit older and we as a whole have gotten more leftist rather than conservative.

[@Lord_Bibulous]

And that started from the last of Gen X. The first to really be screwed by Reaganomics and the modern Republican platform.

[@nathanmiller3891]

​@Rowsy91 that's what my government teacher said in 1998 well I can tell you most of my class today is leftist or liberal even just centrist

[@maylinlee93]

I'm a childless teacher.... apparently, my childless cat woman vote is worthless 😂

[@hichaelhighers]

Your profession is important and honorable

[@bradfordmitchell3135]

You are a dud

[@GOPSlayer]

This childless cat dad dude supports your vote. We're a strong team!!! Go blue woohoo!!!

[@maylinlee93]

The Republican's voter restrictions while pretending their votes count more is so alarming.

[@art-of-techno]

I know a lot of people who have kids but unfortunately don't give a crap about their future. "Well, they'll work things out like we did..." that's what they'll tell you...

[@GaryLove-v8g]

I was a VietNam war protester at age 17 thru 20. I had two children, am a retired firefighter/logger. I still support the anti-war protesters and I belive in saving the Earth. I bet Charlie disaproves of me. As Walz would say, "Mind your own damned business Charlie".

[@TMMx]

If the only reason you care about future generations is because you’re worried about what happens to your own kids, then you’re the kind of person who should not be voting.

[@bretEdwards]

or having kids!

[@darylmorrison6598]

Charlie Kirk is only comfortable debating teenagers and college students.

[@SparklyCoconut-le3fu]

Well he ran away from a 12 year old at the dnc so apparently the list of people he’s willing to debate will forever be shrinking

[@Jmamelia]

😂

[@rustinusti]

Did you see the video of Charlie Kirk losing in an argument to a 9-year-old child? 😂

[@rustinusti]

The kid, who is black, asked Charlie about his thoughts on the Civil Rights Act, and Charlie RAN.

[@Ellieempress]

@@rustinustigreat debate , loved it .

[@dalekrenegade2596]

​@@rustinusti Same kid who owned My Pillow Guy?

[@rustinusti]

@@dalekrenegade2596Yeah!

[@siniister710]

@@dalekrenegade2596 yup lol

[@dvdv8197]

Speaking of debates: The VP debate should have the chyron "Coach v. Couch". 😄😄

[@philcarpenter]

The “family first” Republican Party invaded Iraq though.

[@AmbitiousNoodle]

I have two boys and a daughter (but she passed away from COVID about 14 months ago), and if anything having kids made me more left. I don’t want my kids to live in a climate apocalypse where billionaires own everything and they are slaves. Why the hell would having kids make me go right? If I care about their future then I would naturally want them to have a more equitable one in the best climate scenario

[@Christian-ip3vz]

Kirk has a face to head ratio that is way off.

[@ericfartman1663]

😂😂😂

[@bentoomet8805]

Bros got a NOGGIN

[@eirikjontvedt773]

Kirk is a joke.

[@TheMalmut]

Living Garbage Pail Kid.

[@williamstevenson3049]

What’s makes your comment funny is that he has the teeth 🦷 of a 6 year old

[@annecollins1741]

This is the same coward that ran 🏃‍♂️ away from a twelve year old, lol.. The twelve year old asked him about Civil Rights and he ran the other way.

[@SteefPip]

One of my sisters had her first child at 21, and my other sister had her first child at 38. Both of them kept their politics consistent after they had their children. Charlie knows this too, his politics didn't change when he had his kids, they stayed equally horrible before and after, and we know that because we've been keeping an eye on that weirdo for a long time now.

[@LonexX18]

I had the exact same thought when he said having kids massively changed his outlook. I must have completely missed this massive political shift, because I basically just remember him being conservative for as long as I am aware of him.

[@zedek_]

It's always the people I've met who had a ton of kids, and were conservative, that voted and acted in the most selfish ways, and had the most cornucopian mindset.

[@williac31]

Some of us don't need to have children to have empathy.

[@musicman9023]

Yes, people who know how to reproduce and (sometimes) not know the proper use of contraceptions definitely know more about public policy than others. It's so obvious!

[@MohammedAshenafi-ee1sp]

you seem bitter for not having kids.

[@nateputerbaugh5709]

Ana apent 45 minutes sitting next to Charlie Kirk and barely pushed back on his bs, but thought one sentence from AOC requires a 20 minute meltdown. Pretty sure that says it all

[@SparklyCoconut-le3fu]

Yea I can’t stand Ana these days. She will probably apologize to the right for being so divisive on the issue of people having children like she did last year

[@nataliemullings6908]

She is full of Alice poop 💩 Soup 🍲. Yesterday she said that people should stop calling Dump a Convicted Felon, because it can be a turn off. She talks out of both sides of her mouth.

[@timothyo718]

I was glad that Ana was on an extended vacation. Cenk teamed up with John, Jasmine, Francesca etc is more interesting. Ana just frames all her commentary in a rightwing POV.

[@sebastep]

Anna is turning Republican. Main reason for this is she hates poor people. She'll soon leave TYT and start a "centrist" podcast Dave Rubin style

[@akmal94ibrahim]

I mean, it is Charlie Kirk. We all know who he is and what he is about. Is it really worth dissecting this obvious grifter?

[@MagnusGalactusOG]

Having children profoundly changes people usually for the better. It's a fact.

[@theonlygus]

Charlie Kirk is a PERFECT example of a man who cant see the world through anyone elses eyes. He can only imagine everyone thinks and acts and is motivated like he is... so when he sees people who dont need to have kids to think about everyones future his brain cant reconcile it. Its people who think exactly like him who should NEVER be in public leadership positions... he lacks the kind of vision needed to make decisions for EVERYONE.

[@Cypress77]

Most people who have kids aren't thinking about the future. They're thinking about how to improve their lives right now

[@student99bg]

I want kids because I don't want to be without kids and grandkids when I get old.

[@SparklyCoconut-le3fu]

@@student99bgwhat a selfish reason to want children

[@aileenpi73]

For sure

[@student99bg]

@@SparklyCoconut-le3fu but wanting children to make your life better now is not a selfish reason to have children? Gtfoh d*g*enerate

[@colihon3552]

​@@SparklyCoconut-le3fuhow is that selfish. I want one to give my mother a grandkid and carry my blood line

[@tracim3080]

So first to make the argument that having kids makes you focus on the future in other people, but then he makes the argument that when you have kids you root for your kids first, which means you’re selfish and you’re focussed on your family and your family, only which would be the opposite of what you want in policy

[@henrytep8884]

Is like he believes nepotism is some sort of virtue. Not surprising coming from someone who would vote for Trump

[@MohammedAshenafi-ee1sp]

I don't generally agree with charlie much but I agree that having kids is beautiful this should not be controversial.

[@tracim3080]

@@MohammedAshenafi-ee1sp having kids is beautiful, but it doesn’t make you more invested in your country Selfish people have kids all the time

[@theaviationist.5719]

@@MohammedAshenafi-ee1spBut who said that having children is not an amazing thing? The debate is “People with Children think more about making the world better than Single people”. Which is ridiculous. So why is it that the most liberal people are those that are always advocating for “Universal Safety Nets for everyone?”. Leftists / Liberals are labelled as Commies, Marxists and Socialists because they have too much empathy for everyone rather than themselves and those in their close circles. If advocate for Free lunches, Free Healthcare for all, affordable housing, Child Tax credits, Funding more public schools, Subsidised Childcare, climate change policies to protect our planet so that the future generations will benefit etc is not showing care then these childless Leftist advocating for these policies must be terrible individual that don’t care about the future of the country. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️👍

[@LupusNoir]

Vance and Trump are so full of it and Kirk is defending it. What a freaking tool.

[@xibalbalon8668]

Republicans are stuck having to defend Vance's weirdo statements and Trump's narcissism about crowd sizes. It's kinda hilarious if these people weren't dangerous cult leaders

[@tristanotear3059]

Great podcast. Humble advice from an English teacher. Don’t use “impact” as a verb. You have multiple statements ending with “that will impact me now.” “To Impact” as a verb means “to constipate,” as in a dietician saying about a patient: “this medicine will impact her tomorrow.” Please just use “to affect,” as in “that will affect me now.” Relatedly, I recommend that you don’t use “impacted” as an adjective. If you are saying that someone is impacted, to some few million ears, you are saying that she is constipated. Naturally, any new usage will become grammatically correct, but you’d be surprised at how many people at least remember the medical usage of these “impact” words and phrases. I remember even reading a Paul Krugman column, in which the great economist mentioned that he would not use “impact,” and “impacted” in this “new usage” that dictionaries will designate these words as being. To be sure, I’ll still watch your podcast no matter how you use grammar and diction. I follow you every day. Cheers.

[@veroniquedelphi7689]

Child free people can leave their (considerable) money to charity and care about the greater good whereas those saddled with their own kids can’t see past the tips of their noses. Another way of looking at it.

[@idi0tSammich]

Charlie arguing that childless people have better politics... Isn't he childless?

[@Anthonycheesman33]

He just had a kid in 2022.

[@colihon3552]

​@@Anthonycheesman33how ivf I know he didn't touch a female

[@Riff65]

I’m a 70 y/o single guy with no children. The property taxes I’ve paid over the years to pay for public schools and school busses and playing fields, etc. amounts to a huge number, for which I have not received any direct benefit. I’m good with it, though, because I’m a liberal who believes in supporting the next generation by ensuring they have everything they need to be successful in life, even though they are just dumb kids who take everything for granted because they’ve always been given the things that society provides for them. My joke at times is, where are these kids to maybe mow my lawn or maintain my yard as a sign of gratitude for the blessings we childless people have bestowed on them? Never saw a one. But I know how the universe works and don’t expect any thanks from them or their parents who, coincidentally, seem to gripe a lot.

[@colihon3552]

Come on man you had me until the lawn crap. I'm 42 with no kids. I've had older folks if I was shoveling snow and it is next to mine cool. in my 20s and 30s. I'm not cutting grass for free especially not a big yard, pay the kid 20 bucks

[@imnotmike]

You do benefit from having other people in the world who are educated and successful, because if they didn't have that education they would likely just be criminals who would make your life miserable.

[@adventuroushermit2590]

If you wanted somebody to mow your lawn, maybe you should've had a kid, you could tell to mow your lawn. Seriously What a weird thing to complain about

[@colihon3552]

@@Riff65 u was serious

[@johnalexharper]

This is a very privileged perspective. Anyone who grew up with bad or absent parents could never think this way.

[@wunnell]

When Charlie Kirk says that his politics changed when he had children, he means that he became more determined to keep LGBTQ+ people away from those children. He doesn't mean that he started wanting more resources put into public education, etc, which are things that those on the left support even if they don't have children of their own. Kirk is basically saying that becoming even more exclusionary is a good thing.

[@Dana__black]

Almost half of the military don’t have kids. Image telling them they don’t care about the future of this country

[@dvdv8197]

I like when Cenk debates and has facts on his side.

[@KaiLivi]

I was a racist conservative at one point due to where I grew up, the real world hit me hard once I left home and had my kid. Now that I actually have real world experience, I’m now a communist.

[@lordmaster9007]

You don't have to racist before using the word conservative. Means the same now.

[@lordoftheflies7024]

U could be a racist communist lol

[@socalnahtty]

I don't have children. Or baby goats. Or a cat. I have a turtle. 🙋🏻‍♀️

[@donnydogpiss4533]

I have Smoogle

[@DavidPysnik]

I have children and not the other stuff.

[@socalnahtty]

@@DavidPysnik Not a lady either. David? 🧐

[@ChirpingMatt]

The argument that "having kids changes your politics, your humanity, the way you think about future generations" is so enlightening to the sociopathy of the far right. My immediate response I was screaming in my head was "No, because sane people are capable of empathy without it needing to affect them directly."

[@shannontreiber1070]

This is SO dumb. I have five kids. My oldest has none and has no desire to ever have them. He is FAR more concerned about the future of the country, the planet than his own parents are. So dumb to claim.

[@joetarvainis2417]

What about woman forced to have a child and not have it aborted and she dies of complications and while that child grows up and sits in a classroom and his life is aborted by someone with an AR15 assault weapon.

[@platoniczombie]

Does this mean Charlie has a kid!? That poor child...

[@useyourheadpliz]

Charlie's last point about caring about shooting before climate change also shows how intellectually limited he is if he considers the former to be more urgent and impactful to his kids than the latter.

[@AndyyBee]

I have a kid. Didn't change my politics at all. It changed my lifestyle and my goals, but it didn't change my values or beliefs at all.

[@pizmotality8136]

I can't understand why neither of TYTs pointed out that there are some people who should NEVER have children. We've all heard about horrific cases of child neglect and abuse.

[@blahblahsaurus2458]

It's weird to me that no one in this discussion brought up nieces and nephews? You can be a childless cat person and still have kids in your life that you would die to protect. So that's stupid. And of course, most people can and do love humanity, are concerned about humanity, and are happy to give high priority to a future they will not live to see.

[@russellward4624]

It only changes awful people like Kirk who only care about themselves and how things affect them personally. They can't comprehend how other people can care about others when it doesn't affect them personally.

[@theymademepickaname1248]

Then, they use having kids to justify being even more selfish and vicious. I used to work with a guy that was a complete backstabbing POS. If you called him out on it, he would say, "whatever puts food in my daughter's mouth."

[@mookiestewart3776]

Exactly! It’s the foundation of the conservative mindset

[@thinman25]

I would give Kirk credit for going into the lion's den, but it loses some impact when you don't understand that you're being eaten.

[@kyoakland]

😂 good 1

[@ricbellino1662]

My son just turned 1 two weeks ago. All having children did was to reinforce my already deeply held political beliefs. I treated children i met before having my own with empathy, and now that i have kids, i treat them the same or maybe with more empathy than before. My desire to better my child's future extends beyond my own child, to bettering the future for all children

[@Mohbus]

I think what Charlie is trying to say is: "I never felt empathy for another human being before having kids, and that really shifted my world view."

[@DRDR3ADSA]

Charlie Kirk is a high school drop out

[@zhouyongkang5331]

What are you implying?

[@emmagold1516]

Charlie’s argument is easily refuted by the example of very shitty monarchies

[@MarcioSouza1]

Even easier: Trump

[@umerchoudhary2822]

Didn’t this guy have his first child in like 2022 lmao? Pretty sure his politics haven’t even changed a little bit since then 😂 foh fam talking about how it completely changes you

[@gneissnicebaby]

It impacts me if children in my community are uneducated. It impacts me if children in my community are starving. It impacts me if children in my community are homeless. It impacts me if children in my community are robbed of their childhood in anyway. I do not need to have children, to think and worry about the children because I understand that ALL of this is 1000 times bigger than me and mine.

[@Voodooray007]

"Charlie Kirk runs into BUZZSAW..." Leatherface: Damn...That was easy. 🙄

[@jesse_cole]

It's important to note that Ana has moved so far toward the right that even Kyle isn't comfortable saying she supports Kamala without hearing it from her first.

[@georgepirpiris7309]

Maybe but he is probably referencing her loud and proud vote for Jill Stein in 16. Not sure what is worse, snorting red pills or voting for a Kremlin stooge/grifter/loser ?

[@shawnastephens1536]

So my 22 year old son who has no children his vote doesn't count. I thank God every day he doesn't have children. He's not ready yet. He's still trying to find out who he is.

[@Jakeurb8ty82]

It's insulting to think I don't care about my friends, or cousins' kids and what their future or their kids' future will look like.

[@luedog8385]

its insulting to think i dont care about my cat 😡

[@NobuhikuObayashi]

Anyone remember There Will Be Blood? Movie about a guy who constantly harps about him being a “family man” and that his “bond of family” is something that others can’t offer. And by the end of the movie he disowns his son and they never talk for the rest of their lives. Be weary of those types

[@DavidPysnik]

I don’t get this argument that people without children don’t have a stake in the future. If you are 25 but never have kids, you could still live another 75 years. People have a stake in the future because many expect to live long into the future regardless of whether or not they have children.

[@3jallenl]

Props to you and good step parents out there Kyle

[@Hugh_I]

OMG, the mental gymnastics to justify JD Veirdo. His whole argument "having kids makes you care for them over others" doesn't even make sense. If anything it's backwards. In an ideal democratic world you're supposed to represent the people, not your own little family. You become a worse politician if your policy positions are driven by your own selfish needs. But of course, becoming more selfish makes you more republican, thus in his mind, "better" in politics. The whole premise is wrong though. The only reason why this seems plausible maybe to some republican parents, not parents in general, is because they experienced things like love, compassion and empathy for the first time in their life when they became parents. That doesn't make you a good person, but a weirdo. Regular non weirdo parents experienced these feelings long before they even considered doing the hanky panky without a condom.

[@dvdv8197]

Been rewatching Kyle's coverage of the 2016 election Hillary v. Trump. No wonder this brilliant guy got Krystal! He's a genius, 99 % of the time he was SPOT ON! The only thing he eventually got wrong was his final prediction. And he still was WAY LESS wrong than most other Democratic pundits. Brilliant Kyle. Never change. 👍🙏🔥🔥

[@quanganhvu6791]

Same thing with his 2020 coverage

[@dr.wolfstar1765]

Bro...he was literally telling people to vote for biden months ago. He's not that much of a genius

[@ladymanzo9723]

@@dr.wolfstar1765 that was b4 Gaza

[@2007NissanAltima]

Lol he has a toddle level knowledge of geopolitics and foreign policy. But i like him bc hes funny even if i dont agree with him.

[@Ellieempress]

@@dr.wolfstar1765Biden isn’t the owner of project 2025 , he’s definitely smart .

[@stevens7487]

This “having children, so I’m more invested in the future” argument is so disingenuous coming from the party that denies climate change and thinks the EPA is a waste of time/money. It’s really sick stuff.

[@irawilliams4890]

Charlie Kirk can’t comprehend having empathy. Also, to Charlie, I’m sure “protecting kids” is equivalent to banning literally anything they disagree with

[@LiroElQBrega]

The point is ppl with children are WAY more responsible, have better perspective and make better decisions as opposed to those who dont. That is absolutely true.

[@brogren802]

He's the poster boy of the religious incels

[@treesurgeon5561]

Yeah I will have to say that the single white man 18 to 28 could be massively overwhelmingly Trump voters

[@xibalbalon8668]

Trump has captured the white male adult virgin demographic.

[@threeofeight197]

So like. Was Charlie Kirk not a douche before kids?

[@ra1279]

Thank you, Charlie Kirk. You just verified what I've said forever about the two parties. One says, "What about me/mine?" The other says, "What about them?" The real Jesus party is the Democratic Party.

[@hannahizawesomeful]

What he’s saying is he’s inherently a selfish person and when he had kids, he extended that selfishness onto them as well.

[@genedalefield]

On the other hand, not having children would significantly reduce the risk of nepotism

[@yessopie]

People often use their children as an excuse for their corruption. They tell themselves that getting all that kickback money is "providing for the family" and so they feel like it's the responsible thing to do. People will ALWAYS put their own children first.

[@desertegle40cal]

When I entered the Navy, the MAJORITY, like the VAST MAJORITY of the men and women I served with were young. Many in their teens and early 20s who did not have kids but had the ability to want to fight for the future, everyone’s FUTURE!! Now if one of them died without having kids, in Kirk’s mind, they didn’t contribute one bit to the future of the country. That’s just insane on so many levels that it’s offensive!

[@NMandarina]

If republicans would care about children they would do anything so that American kids don’t have to grow up with having active shooter trainings. As a European I cant even imagine the trauma and anxiety American kids go trough

[@beamoscrilla7691]

Almost every single terrible politician in the history of our country has had children.