Charlie Kirk Talks To Ana, Cenk About Trump's Spiraling

[@markgalvez7234]

I’m sorry, but it’s nice seeing three Americans that completely disagree have a conversation.

[@Bauks]

It's so good.

[@skater8352]

Why would you have to apologize?

[@curt7140]

Totally agree it’s sad to see most the comments somehow offended by a respectful debate of issues. How dare TYT break my echo chamber where me and my friends all talk about how we agree on everything with no logical reasoning behind it!

[@totallynotakward]

@@weedlol I can't stand this type of comment, there's no insight into how this pushes the Overton window to censorship when, in reality, seeing both sides is what unites people and will actually push the Overton window to a sensible and well-rounded opinion. Always better speech, not no speech. People will always think for themselves, denying platforming something regardless of your views is simply anti-democratic and goes against everything this channel stands for. If you want to live in your own positive feedback loop, go for it. But don't discourage a channel that actually facilitates discussions, regardless of it's on policy or not, than having no discussion at all.

[@totallynotakward]

@@weedlol In fact, this is the type of comment that turns people to support people like Charlie Kirk because you're devaluing somebody based on your opinion of them. I'm in no way a supporter of Charlie Kirk, but I certainly do know what he stands for so if and when I meet someone that aligns with Charlie, I know how to have a discussion on where I disagree with that person, and show them that he's awful on a lot of issues. What I don't do is post my anti-progressive opinion on a progressive page thinking it's going to change things.

[@becausewhynot1686]

Conservative here. Love the good faith conversations. This is how you educate the population.

[@cloutfisher7714]

It’s refreshing to see people who disagree speaking like this

[@rowanwalker5241]

This is how it should be. People with democratic and republican views having a normal conversation without freaking out and resorting to personal attacks. Try to have a rational conversation with your average democrat in the street. They will freak the f**k out if you say one thing that goes against the talking points of the week. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Dr.PaolaLake]

I am a psychologist without children. I help veterans and police officers with trauma. My not having children has allowed me the time and energy to dedicate myself to helping others. Helping others has given me a sense of purpose and I see this in others who have careers without children. My reward is in giving as it should be for any healthy human being. Definitely invested in the future!

[@chrisnevergrowold330]

Thanks for what you do. Someone like you saved my life a decade ago. I'm a retired police officer up here in Canada.

[@Dr.PaolaLake]

@@chrisnevergrowold330 Thank you for your service as an officer. I have infinite gratitude for your service and the sacrifices entailed!

[@YenRug]

The biggest takeaway from that discussion: Charlie Kirk suddenly develops empathy once he becomes directly involved in something, until then there's zero consideration for someone else's situation. I've bought a house: aren't property taxes too high! I've had a child: oh my god, isn't taking care of someone else a huge strain on me and my finances! His surprise that Cenk's political viewpoint didn't change upon experiencing these life changes said it all, "You didn't have a revelation when you found all these things suck?" No, Charlie, we understood that these things are hard for everybody, we don't wait until we're in the same position to feel sympathy.

[@mrdamage690]

Yeah but that common sense. If my cousin comes into my house and takes a water bottle it’s obviously different from some stranger coming in and taking a water bottle.

[@amammaof2]

@@mrdamage690 you’re comparing empathy for other people having a difficult time to someone breaking into your home and stealing from you? Why not compare apples and airplanes? Before I had kids, I still cared about child poverty. I still volunteered at my local children’s hospital. I still participated in community food drives and sponsored a child in a third world country. It is so bizarre for me that some of you can’t conceive of feeling a personal state in the welfare of strangers……even for those who will never know you, who don’t look like or believe the same things as you, who speak a different language and even those who live in another country from you. I was deeply invested in making the world a better place before owning a home, and wanted taxes to be reasonable, even when it didn’t impact me personally. That’s unconditional caring. Those of you who only care when it impacts you are the ones who are not working in a normal sphere of society. If I’m thirsty, but someone else will die without that, I’m not going to keep it for myself…..even if I really wanted that water. That’s because with or without kids, I have a pro-social mindset. It’s never been just about me. Not being able to care about other people, even over yourself is sociopathic. if you only care because of its impact on you or the people you consider your’s, that’s selfish and disordered thinking. There was a time we struggled to have kids, but it never changed my desire to leave the world a better place, or my willingness to accept others, take time to understand their needs, and work to lift them up. Being weird about someone else benefiting from something is the problem. Not being able to care unless you yourself are in the same boat is bizarre to me. I’ll never understand that mentality.

[@mrdamage690]

@@amammaof2 I’m not reading all of that, I have no empathy for your complaining. The point is that I’m not going to care about outsiders before insiders. Period. If you don’t like it, I don’t care. I agree with Charlie.

[@amammaof2]

@@mrdamage690 did you think I was waiting with baited breath to hear that you cared? Lol. Oh sweetie, I simply said it’s sociopathic to not care until you have gone through something yourself. It’s weird to not be able to have empathy for people even if you haven’t been in the same position. But had you read (and understood) my comment, you’d know that I wasn’t trying to persuade you to feel the same way, just expressing how bizarre it is to be incapable of empathy for others that way. That’s it. Also, I don’t give a flying f#ck if you read it. These are the comments. They are text based. If it’s too much for you, you don’t have to announce it babe. I don’t care. Lol. Read it. Don’t. Whatever. But it’s very on brand that the person who can’t feel empathy for others, would also be so self important that they believe they need to announce that they won’t read what others have to say. Like, do you need a gold star? 😂

[@mrdamage690]

@@amammaof2 no I need you to be more concise with your ideas. Stop rambling. If it takes you 4 paragraphs to get your ideas out, they’re probably bad ideas. It’s bizarre to me how you guys claim to be empathetic until the problem comes to your front door. How many immigrants have you allowed to live in your house?

[@TheSnowmerchant]

WTF is this argument??? If you have kids you have a more emotional connection to the country??? What if IM a man with 7 kids from 7 different moms and 15 grandkids? Does he really believe that i have an exponential interest in the country? I highly doubt that

[@RandomTrash-ey5di]

He's right. Childless people care more about short term pleasures and life experiences, other than building things.

[@HulkIncredible81]

​@@RandomTrash-ey5diWhere's your evidence to that?

[@aaron-n]

@@RandomTrash-ey5di Right, Queen Elizabeth I, Sir Isaac Newton, Immanuel Kant, Niccolò Machiavelli, Ludwig van Beethoven, Jane Austen, Nikola Tesla, Florence Nightingale, Leonardo da Vinci, Harriet Martineau, and Jesus built nothing.

[@RandomTrash-ey5di]

@@TheSnowmerchant I mean to say on average. At the average matters for the level of a society. My childless friends are interested in experiences and not in building a legacy. They are accomplished no doubt. It’s not “wrong” but at a society level it’s better for people to be thinking of building legacy

[@vatechie21]

@@RandomTrash-ey5di you're adding your own spin here and it doesn't make a whole lot of sense in terms of policy and politics which is what CK was talking about (he also didn't make sense though, so no worries I guess). What policy position would change so that you get an experience versus building a legacy...? They really should've asked CK for examples bc he couldn't have changed that drastically. He's had shit politics for quite some time.

[@6ixpredcatcherz]

This was so refreshing! We need more discussions like this. The people who are going to hate on TYT for bringing Charlie on are the people who keep America divided.

[@BlackCatSociety]

Agreed. Most commenters are missing that.

[@CriminallyBlonde]

🎯🎯

[@danyelldoesnot]

Ana, I'm super disappointed in your agreement with Charlie that non-homeowners care less about the country than homeowners. That is like what JD Vance says about people with kids. The more I think about it, the more elitest and out of touch it gets. 🤡🤡🤡

[@hottcarlson]

100%. Sure wish Ana would quit kissing this rape-happy loser's ass.

[@danyelldoesnot]

@Porter-1488 lolll you're an idiot and so is charlie kirk.

[@hottcarlson]

@Porter-1488 .....said every dipshitted Kirk-loving rapist ever.

[@danyelldoesnot]

@Porter-1488 what do you mean, illegal?

[@02xstanley]

@@danyelldoesnot welcome to Ana since 2022/23

[@franciscoagosto9957]

Why are y’all giving The Trump Campaign ideas to turn it around? Let Trump continue doing what he is doing of y’all want Kamala to win.

[@vijays6911]

We want Trump to win wtf you mean

[@skillethead15]

@@vijays6911No the hell we don’t. Trump is an omega level threat to our way of life. We do not want that buffoon to get back into office.

[@Greg-io1ip]

Kamala needs to earn it by abandoning AIPAC. She's not going to get a cake walk. She can win, but on We The People's terms.

[@MartinGarcia-vo8uj]

@@franciscoagosto9957 Ana can’t help herself. Too much time looking at the mirror. Her positions are too much out there.

[@curt7140]

@@franciscoagosto9957 wow the visceral response to a single person with differing opinions on politics being allowed to speak scares me for the future of the democrat party. People don’t want to hear even slightly differing opinions than there own.

[@dk4598]

I can’t get over the change with Charlie Kirk when he does these interviews with Cenk and Ana. With them he comes across as reasonable, but when I listen to his shows, he says the most hateful stuff.

[@deansusec8745]

and Ana sounded intelligent when she talked to Ben Shapiro.

[@oklol7799]

@@deansusec8745she’s always intelligent

[@kiroolioneaver8532]

Politics ranges from a performance/game/to job for a lot of people and so they can be very charming/cordial when they're not in that role (sometimes surprisingly/scarily so). It's really only their supporters and fans who believe that they're dialed up 100% of the time. Of course, it's also true that some of them are disingenuous (i.e. grifters) and so it's easy to put on/drop the mask at will but sometimes there's also a basic respect between opposing sides that are anti-establishment even if they vehemently disagree.

[@Greg-io1ip]

That's how we can tell who the conservative fascist liars are. Most people are generally the same person regardless of who they are around.

[@NowDropRecover]

He's a chameleon, out of necessity. He plays to the fears and cultural angst of his audience, while simultaneously, reinforcing the fears and cultural angst of his audience.

[@jaydee4777]

I am historically not a fan of TYT. But to be honest, the more civil conversations you have with people on the other side of aisle, such as this one, the more broad of an audience you will get, and the more credibility you will garner. I am seeing more of this, and it is a GOOD sign for the general discourse in the world. Keep it up, and you will have more conservatives like me hearing what you have to say. Simply put, everyone in the conversation just seems so normal and cool when they’re not yelling at each other.. who would have thought?!

[@michaelkruse848]

This was all one sided… this should have been called the Charlie Kirk opinion show 🤷‍♂️

[@AZsportshut]

@@michaelkruse848I don’t agree they are letting him talk his points. This dialogue is important because we can learn from it.

[@ninjawild]

Agreed. Ana has earned a ton of points for me because she's actually changed her opinion about a lot of things that are reasonable. The road to normalcy is on the horizon.

[@paulfisher1296]

@@jaydee4777 Could not agree with you anymore! Cheers! There is hope!

[@h8thaway]

“I actually don’t know exactly what he said.” (Kirk) That’s BS. Kirk is definitely well aware of what Trump said.

[@jaefrmbk2k]

ikr?

[@verng8864]

Every single time a Republican says they thought it should have been Shapiro, confirms Walz was the right choice

[@Secret19977]

It really doesn’t. He has no national appeal

[@SmapAttack]

Just like their sad faces when they say Biden should have stayed in the race with a tone of voice as sad as when a child finds out a snow didn't cause a snow day school cancellation.

[@Revawd]

@@verng8864 it depends on what you want. The republicans were scared shapiro would appeal to people in the center. Walz is clearly viewed as more left of Shapiro

[@p0pimp2004]

@@Secret19977 he is earning national appeal. He has the appeal of the average person, man, father. Shapiro comes off as a smooth talking Obama impersonator. Walz was the better choice to me. Anyone can relate to him. Plus, we already have Shapiro's endorsement. His fans will most likely vote with him anyway. This was the more savvy choice

[@verng8864]

@@Revawd yes and the more left the better. Shapiro seemed fake, like a used car salesman

[@abrahamlincoln937]

Charlie Kirk definitely comes off like a reasonable conservative when he’s with TYT. But when he’s on X or on his show, he presents himself as a Trump loyalist. But it’s good that Kirk and TYT are having this conversation.

[@zoom1714]

His intentions are clear and seeks to be reactionary (as the trend is post trump) to own college students but it works out when he’s talking about populist issues. He’ll still continue to push his culture war opinions instead which keeps the divide.

[@jacobbrendle1508]

I really resonate with what Charlie is saying on having children changes your politics. I had my first kid at 18 I was basically full anarchy rage against the machine we should just abolish government revolution very liberal. By the time I had my second kid at 20 I was such a drastic change in my politics. Like instead of burning everything down I really wanted to create a world where my kids would have a chance. Where my kids wouldn't end up getting shipped off to war. Having a family doesn't make you a good person but having a well maintained family does indicate some level of responsibility

[@TheFliggs]

I'm so glad I held back on making any donations to TYT!

[@PotatoGunCamper]

Why do you guys get angry when TYT talks to ppl you do not agree with?

[@amielsanders8512]

Because not everybody and their “opinions” need to be platformed and heard. You can’t be serious with this shit, my guy.🫤🤦🏾‍♂️

[@paul_sitter]

Lot of people get wrapped up in their bubbles, this is just exposing Charlie more. And if you can find ANY smidge of agreement that's always a good thing. Also if any of Charlie's followers watch this vid and go huh this Cenk and Ana make some sense...... then it's worth it. That's why they do it.

[@anacc3257]

@@amielsanders8512 Who decides that and through what metrics?

[@curt7140]

@@amielsanders8512 Charlie Kirk is a well respected leading very basic right wing voice. If you call for him to be deplatformed that simply means you want any difference of opinion from yours silenced that is not a good thing. Open your mind to different viewpoints you don’t have to agree but it certainly isnt healthy to have this response to those that are different than you.

[@PotatoGunCamper]

@@amielsanders8512 Bro Charlie Kirk has a nationally syndicated radio show. Him appearing on TYT isn't magically taking an obscure political voice and giving him a platform. It is better when competing ideas have a civil place to wrestle or sometimes good to hear the other side's perspective.

[@100383208]

I've been reading the comments praising this "bipartisan" discussion but I still have to say it... He is so reprehensible that I'll never give him a platform anywhere

[@Greg-io1ip]

While I agree, Cenk and Ana are giving Charlie Kirk a chance to change. Let's see how Charlie Kirk does. He isn't yet experienced in manhood. His prejudices are his fears. He thinks trying to find excuses intellectually are convincing anyone he's a man. He's just a pompous, scared child like most conservatives grifting for a living. They actually don't believe in doing the work themselves. That's for 'those other people'. And that is why Charlie Kirk is still just a boy.

[@Marco-ii1sn]

Honestly, this was so refreshing to see. Differences aside yet still have the ability to have a civil conversation. THIS is what our country needs more of.

[@HENJAM48]

A truly open discussion. A lot of generosity on both sides. I'd like to see more of it. I won't be subscribing to Charlie any time soon, but I feel he was being more honest here than he is on his own platform.

[@ceIIardoor]

Bc he's a grifter

[@masibee]

Charlie "Black people shouldn't be pilots" Kirk embraced by TYT. Sad times.

[@moonie9000]

He didn't say that did he.

[@atarileaf]

No he said unqualified people shouldn't. If you read that as black people, you're the racist

[@tperson8347]

@@moonie9000 Charlie Kirk said that in a seperate conversation on a podcast, I don't remember what it's from, though

[@tperson8347]

@@masibee They don't embrace Charlie Kirk, they sought him out to have a conversation with him. Ending on an agreement is a common goal in conversations like this.

[@idakev]

They are definitely not embracing Kirk. lol

[@LALove1018]

I love how respectful Charlie is. You can see how much he respects Anna and Cenk. Cenk and Anna are also very respectful in discussing both sides.

[@BlagoP]

Charlie Kirk showing us what a conservative is all about, and that is someone who has no empathy for other people, life for him is about me, me, me.

[@NottheotherAmberinMichigan]

Conservatives: ME, ME, ME, I, I, I, MINE MINE MINE.

[@deniceeverham9467]

@@BlagoP you nailed it. The secret is out. . They only care about themselves. Democrats care about making the world better for all people.

[@nevyn_karres]

I removed my subscribe to tyt just for even treating him as an equal.

[@Secret19977]

@@nevyn_karres people like you are the problem completely intolerant of people with different views to your echo chamber bubble

[@annetta7]

@@nevyn_karres I must say I agree

[@annieclaire2348]

Charlie Kirk talking about needing to be “living in reality” made me laugh out loud!!! His reality is pretty unreal in my opinion!

[@johnfarag5384]

Wow. A conservative shocked and genuinely confused that a person had a moral and philosophical compass before they had kids? Odd. Very odd.

[@NickGeorgiou]

It was really heartening to see a civil conversation between people with differences of opinion. Cenk, Ana, Charlie, keep it up. Top class

[@brendanfearn]

This was a much more common event before Donald Trump turned every conversation into a war.

[@papaclos]

@@brendanfearnno he doesn't. I used to believe that until I started watching full clips. The media lies. He's been on a bunch of different podcasts lately too. Pretty good stuff. Do not assume I am voting for him tho. #kanye2024

[@waynebrowne1063]

Charlie Kirk is not as smart as he thinks he is

[@vijays6911]

hell of a lot smarter than any Dems

[@Greg-io1ip]

Conservatives as a general rule have blind spots in their brains which blocks evolution of intellect. Charlie Kirk would be pretty smart if he didn't let his closeted urges worry him so much.

[@elizabethstanley7137]

@@vijays6911 Clearly!!!

[@murphalocalypse]

@vijays6911 he's pulling the oldest trick in the book "talk fast to filibuster, interrupt and talk fast when someone counters my BS, empty and incorrect talking points. " It's not smart. We can do better.

[@elizabethstanley7137]

@murphalocalypse He's stating facts and common sense. You may disagree, but we need more civil debates like this .

[@janluke4076]

The look on Kirks face when you both said children didn’t change your view on politics, and that Ana thought about the future of children even though she didn’t have any was priceless! Maybe if he hung around you two more, he would change his views..he is not a person I take at all seriously.

[@KRTN6CFT]

Due to the dropping birth rates, republicans never miss a chance to berate those that don't have children. When he says children changed his politics, that is his way of saying yall need to have more kids.

[@TheFliggs]

Why aren't Cenk and Ana pushing back on the BS that's coming out of Charlie Kirk's mouth?

[@ndcordl]

Because they can't. They could've easily cornered him but they didn't. He easily won this round and he's an idiot. This is why I can't go back to being a member yet.

[@lisaWIsconnie]

Because for the most part they agree

[@nateputerbaugh5709]

@@TheFliggs because Ana agrees with him

[@johnhoward2337]

Notice how comfortable Charlie Kirk is. That is a testimony to the integrity of Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian. No "Gotcha questions" for TicToc clips. No condescension. Just honest civil conversation.

[@Thedemotivator]

It’s really revealing to me that Charlie Kirk’s policies are all based around favouritism for what he has decided is valuable in society such as having children or owning a home, such that he will completely neglect trying to help or caring about people experiencing different lifestyles. Conservatism is not about helping as many people in society as possible through a wide range of policies, but a narrow band of people who you personally value based on what you deem to be worthwhile.

[@ichabodcrane2959]

I totally disagree with Charlie. Medicaid has no meaning for me. Nobody in my family will ever need it. And yet, I am a strong supporter of it because I can empathize with the needs of people who are different from me but with whom I share a common humanity

[@AaronVets]

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@groovinhooves]

Exactly the way we make and maintain a great society 🤟

[@ceIIardoor]

Charlie believes poor people deserve to suffer because he believes every poor person is at fault.

[@ceIIardoor]

​@@AaronVetsomg the lil goat in your pfp!! So adorable 💕🐐

[@ninjawild]

You sympathize with them, you don't empathize. No one in this comments knows the difference I swear. Since you nor anyone in your family have ever experienced it, you CANNOT empathize with people in that situation. It's not something you will, it's just a product of you having experienced that situation before which you haven't. The reason this is important is because Empathy is a stronger motivator than sympathy, and it also provides better insight for these types of situations. Lawmakers with sympathy say "I want to make this fair for people", people with EMPATHY say "I've gone through this backwards system before and I KNOW how to fix or help this system". You can support health care projects all the live long day, but that doesn't mean you'd be any good at fixing it. In fact, you know less because someone who has gone through it would know better about it than you.

[@jdsthird]

TYT is down bad right now.

[@Themoosky2077]

Love these talks, this is what our discourse should look like. Kudos TYT and Charlie. Respect to all of you.

[@bryantracy969]

Why is this Charlie Kirk being given so much oxygen… on Young Turks?

[@annieclaire2348]

@@bryantracy969 exactly!

[@p0pimp2004]

They're trying to be real journalists. That's why they went to the rnc. I think y'all get too used to the partisan crap u see on these channels. Real journalism listens to both sides without forming an opinion. I'd love if this could happen more often. It's refreshing. I'm tired of the extreme partisan divides.

[@nevyn_karres]

@@Hbfb4 We do not give fascist racist nazies a platform, but tyt just did.

[@Secret19977]

@@bryantracy969 because it’s called debate and talking to the other side. Something the left don’t understand very much

[@Meerkatx5]

Hard to watch because Kirk presents himself as someone who's open minded but it's very clear that he can't even make the smallest critique on Trump on the most obvious points.

[@ckfeng67]

It was so refreshing to see a civilized and respectful dialog between Kirk and the Turks.

[@JaimeRiveraMusic]

I see that some individuals on this thread have a problem with this guy being on TYT. However, I congratulate all three for proving dialog in opposing positions, in a respectful manner, is commendable and doable. So I prefer to see this segment as a good example of just that.

😂

[@JaimeRiveraMusic]

Hilarious? Hmmmm

[@graceomalley4]

Well said

[@JaimeRiveraMusic]

​@@graceomalley4thank you

[@nateputerbaugh5709]

@@JaimeRiveraMusic I don't care that they had him on. I care that they played complete softball with him, never calling him out for BS

[@Cecedemilia]

Wow Charlie is so stupid lmfaooo He is saying he learned what love and protection for others was after he had kids, before he clearly didn't understand feelings. Normal humans with empathy have those feelings ALL of the time for those around them.

[@spacenerd9499]

Exactly. So before you had kids, you were just a side-line citizen. 😡

[@KRTN6CFT]

He sounds like he went to KZbin Jr. college.

[@Cecedemilia]

@@SpillCheckerIsOverated those feelings on a larger scale* but knowing him, unlikely.

[@jakeniemi7565]

More of these kind of conversations, please! Healthy debates, no mudslinging, both sides getting a fair chance to be heard, agreeing where/when there's agreement to be had (SO different and important!), respectfully disagreeing where necessary - instead of demonizing literally everything someone from the opposing party has to say, in the "us vs them" manner that's been dividing this country with overly partisan newscasts for far too long. (Major networks, we're looking at you!) Keep being the change and avoiding the perpetual echo chamber thing that's proven so toxic for the American people, TYT! PLEASE!! Huge applause and respectful nod to Ana, Chris and Cenk for showing us how healthy debate is done! MAD respect for these kinds of videos! Love it. And love TYT!!!

[@aebalc]

Also respect for having on a real conservative or a real republican - Too many shows are run like the View where they pretend to have a Republican on the panel but they choose one that expresses themselves poorly or choose a 'never Trumper' that doesn't accurately or fairly reflect the half of the country that does support Trump.

[@mrdenson3101]

Stop disrespecting Kamala. She is where she is by her own merits. The enthusiasm is hers and due to her and not just some fluke

[@boombaamboom5]

😂 ok buddy

[@vijays6911]

Kamala has rocks for brains

[@mrdenson3101]

@@vijays6911 your mother must really be proud for the person you grew up to be and the respect you show to others

[@vijays6911]

@@mrdenson3101 facts dont care about your feelings. She is dumb as a mule whether you like it or not

[@kyoakland]

My politics didn't change one bit after I had two kids

[@MrTallShaw]

THIS coming together of opposite sides having good, but challenging, conversations is what democracy is all about.

[@rickpearson7943]

Ya know what democracy is not about? Pretending parents are superior to childless adults and that their votes should count more than anyone else's. Thats quite anti-democratic actually.

[@wonderlife62]

If only Charlie had the same good character as Cenk and Ana. These two emplify thoughtful and compassionate care for all people, including Christians.

[@wvetimore5575]

This Charlie is a real fool.. .

[@ohnopleasesayitaintso]

Cenk is the biggest fool acting as a token for Turning Points and these two white nationalist...Ana and Kirk.

[@Thor.76]

I used to absolutely hate TYT after liking them in the beginning. Keep it up like this, have honest, friendly and constructive conversations with the right wing and you'll definitely get viewers like myself back again.

[@philwill0123]

Too be honest, talks like this look more genuine because right wing commentators tend to tone down the hypocrisy on chats and interviews like this, rather than round tables used for clips. Even tucker carlsen appears "personable" outside his show when talking to left wingers. Because their show is a Grift and an act. Same way fox talks crap about the covid jab while ignoring it was mandatory for everyone to take it while working there at fox. Charlie's Grift is that his fans know he will do the racism and conspiracy theories on his show, but he will go onto leftist platforms, pretend to be reasonable, to lure people onto his platform.

[@CriminallyBlonde]

@@philwill0123ppl like you are the problem.

[@VirginiaPeden-Harrington-qd5zu]

I am an educated, middleclass female who gave birth to three children and reared them to productive adulthood. Having children dramatically changed my day-to-day life but it did not change my politics at all. I have been a progressive Democrat since age nine and I am now 80. My politics have changed with old age but not with children. I have become vastly more progressive with age due to seeing so much injustice in so many areas across the decades.

[@davidalmeida2991]

Brilliantly put. Thank you!

[@LisaSteele-lu7lb]

@@VirginiaPeden-Harrington-qd5zu amen sister!

[@guypotvin6943]

@@VirginiaPeden-Harrington-qd5zu like what injustice? Some things are Injustice, Some of things in the woke world are merely contrived.

[@hammadhussain3082]

@@guypotvin6943 What injustice? Like the fact that American tax dollars fund free healthcare in Israel and not in the US? Like the fact that 800 billionaires in America hold more wealth than 150 Million Americans? Like the fact that we have more than enough resources to feed every child in the world yet America just throws 60 Million tonnes of food in the trash? Want me to go on?

[@michaelwilliams7400]

Charlie is being respectful as well as the tyt crew. Respectful disagreements are so much more palatable.

[@swampsprite9]

Conservative platforms spend a LOT more time trashing liberals than the other way around. If liberals are always kind in return the "might is right" conservatives see that as weakness and it doesn't make them more respectful.

[@michaelwilliams7400]

@@swampsprite9 this is what I'm talking about. Calling Trump Hitler and a threat to democracy and making up lies like the Vance couch episode seems on par with calling Walz a communist and Kamala dumb. Acting like it doesn't go both ways is just disingenuous. I'd like you to give that some thought. We're the UNITED States and this just makes us the Fractured States. Anyhow, have a great weekend!

[@IndigoBellyDance]

Did this Republican forget Bush invaded Iraq thanx to Cheney’s lies?? And love how this Republican is admitting Republican/conservative men Only think of themselves Until they have kids. And luv how all sides forget about families like mine: I’m a single mom, I have a kid But, yes, single moms work hard AF & Need help.

[@austinthomas2732]

I liked how these two groups talked and both the DNC and RNC. If we could get a monthly podcast with these two groups, it could be absolutely game changing to our current political system

[@angiekangas6153]

Cenk!! Why did you let Charlie Kirk get away with saying he didn’t know what Trump said about the medal of honor. He KNOWS! How could he NOT??!!!

[@johnniskala6323]

Because they are in favor of the radical right

[@NDR-hn3ue]

Thank You ..........................I'm sick of TYT giving platforms to PROPAGANISTS

[@hillarymurphy5256]

@@angiekangas6153 yeah, that was embarrassing for cenk. That is such a BS answer and cenk knows it. He immediately bit his tongue and my question to him is why? That's a very basic and simple follow up question so that's pretty disappointing.

[@curt7140]

@@NDR-hn3ue not so sure a person who simply disagrees with you is a propagandists. It is a good thing to hear different points of view it isn’t so good to call for the deplatforming and silencing of those who are different than you. Listen and engage you may grow.

[@ItzMorphinTime22]

That is how they weasel out of answering questions that will make them or the person they're carrying water for look bad.

[@swandog3028]

This is how all Americans, and countries like Australia civilians should all talk to each other and have civil discourse. Like or hate him, one thing Charlie has always been good at and always strives for whoever he’s talking to

[@vin9809]

American needs more of this.

[@grl7968]

Beautiful example of people disagreeing and talking politics in a civilized way.

[@Detritus0311]

Thanks for doing this. It's really good to have this type of dialogue.

[@paulfisher1296]

I like this very civil, thoughtful, respectful DISCUSSION; as it should be! How refreshing!😮

[@kurtcult1908]

Why comments are so stupid. This is EXACTLY what we need - both sides talking to each other in a civilized manner. They actually agree quite a bit and we can start from the place we agree on topics. Trump Bad - Kamala Bad - doesn’t advanced the conversation.

[@SweDaneDragon]

Kirk doesn't understand the concept of empathy. The ability to understand and care for others without being in the same situation as them.

[@GentilesArescreweditsky]

#SOUNDSABOUTWHITE 😂

[@Bigmike43]

@@GentilesArescreweditsky 👏💯🤣

[@debbiedoodiedandi]

Seems to be a Republican trait

[@antclerfont8478]

Or he doesn't care. Republicans never do. People need to stop pretending that these Republicans care when they NEVER DO.

[@deansusec8745]

so who cares?

[@shep1948]

A new low for Cenk and TYT for giving Kirk a platform.

[@peterharris38]

Yes but chops to Cenk for having strong and pertinent arguments.

[@WildVorpal]

I typically only see Cenk on other shows like Piers, and he’s loud, obnoxious, and cringeworthy. But I really enjoyed this sit down from all parties.

[@PyroChem-Extras]

Like it or not this was one of the better interviews in a long time

[@tonibrooks9719]

What is this mess you are putting on your platform?? This is ridiculous.

[@omarali262]

What's wrong with debating the other side?

[@eastsidemoonwalker137]

Nothing wrong with hearing the other side you just have to have a fact checker and don’t let ANY lie go unquestioned…grade the reporters.

[@xoranginho]

@@HerRevengeOnSeattlethey literally pushed back on every single issue.

[@vijays6911]

shutup lefty

[@DLee84331]

@@eastsidemoonwalker137 it’s as if you didn’t even listen the segment

[@CharlesRoby92]

Ok so I'm at a fun center full of kids...shooter runs in...my kids are NOT near me. I definitely try to get to my kids but i DON'T push other kids down...I even try to hide and direct kids, while at the same time, making sure my kids are safe...then trying to stop the bad guy!! Oh and news flash..the bad guy is statistically a REPUBLICAN!!!

[@madambluewave]

Oh right off the bat, Anna is NOT happy to be there lol she can't stand Charlie lol

[@michaelvelasquez3988]

Kirk is not that smart, why are you spending time with him???

[@ShelbourneKing]

I am wondering myselfe why they are talki g with this idiot .

[@akenawell]

Why the hell is Charlie Kirk a nutcase on his show but is able to make himself look reasonable every time he’s on tyt

[@smurfylee]

He still seems a bit manic lol

[@carlmiller757]

He's a lot of things, stupid isn't one of them. He knows how to play to his audience, regardless of who it is.

[@stephenotradovec5471]

As someone who has had a kid more recently. I can relate to Charlie. Its not that I didnt think about the future generations. Its that I care incredibly alot more now.

[@40belowceo]

What is Charlie Kirk doing at the DNC? I’m shocked how Cenk and Ana are siding with him also in most topics. What in the world is going on?

[@saintkupo]

Sucking up to fake populist right wingers again.

I was thinking the same thing, are they siding with him now?

[@whiskeybrown262]

Kirk is Disinformed , a Disnformer, or both

[@davidalmeida2991]

It’s smart to debate the other side. Good arguments will prevail and expose who has better ideas and ideology

[@charlee_hotel]

I didn't even register this as a _debate._ To me, it seemed more like *an extremely healthy* between all sides. If any, I want to see more of this. Btw; Ćenk is an agitator. I'm never surprised whenever he goes _school yard brat_ mode with other guests.

[@lisapetersen150]

@@charlee_hotel same here

[@thedude9014]

Why are you guys give this guy attention?!?

[@surunitemiakanni-oye4346]

I stopped the video clip at 5mins in. Can't stand the jerk

[@Nephromancer3]

A masterclass by Charlie Kirk.

[@charliec775]

All you people freaking out over having a conversation with someone who has different opinions & ideas about things do you really think that's the American way?

[@nursemom101casteel7]

I agree. Most are still worth saving.

[@ryanmundt9628]

Absolutely! Very glad tyt has these conservatives on. Look at how much we agree on. Lots to disagree on for sure but we can progress together.

[@charliec775]

We can never make a better society without learning about all of us & compromising in some manor thank you for the positive replies!

[@nateputerbaugh5709]

@@charliec775 It's fine they had a discussion with him. What isn't fine is never calling him out when he spouts blatant BS

[@charliec775]

@nateputerbaugh5709 you my friend have been massively brainwashed & indoctrinated it's really a shame people on both sides of the 2 major parties feel this way its never 2 late 2 just be sain & not so hyperbolic

[@amyschmidt1113]

Kirk is so full of himself and does not listen. I'm sick of him. I'm outta here.

[@samppasamFIN]

pet your cat , it helps

[@curt7140]

@@amyschmidt1113 I’d recommend listening to differing opinions not running from them it is where growth begins.

[@gmoney65100]

Thank God for Meidas Touch ,l can't stand these 2 now 💔💔💔

[@JudeeMoonbeam]

There are plenty of people out there with kids who don't care about their own children as much as many of the rest of us do. And they don't vote, don't care about education, etc, etc. So just because you have kids, doesn't mean you are more involved in the care of the country.

[@oliviakahlo1]

Yep. I pick up the slack for plenty of them in my neighborhood.

[@lenkacfk7155]

I think the difference lies in lack of empathy. Republicans need to have their own kids to unlock all those complicated feelings of love etc., whereas the average Dem already feels those feelings, so the change for them when they have kids is not quite so profound.

[@billyboy1093]

Yep, my kids are well past school age, yet half my property taxes go to my local school district and I'm fine with it.

[@Scevenex]

Kirk demonstrated wonderfully the main problem with conservatism: Lack of empathy. He was constantly astounded that people's views don't change once they get a house or have kids. It's almost like ... some people think about things ... before they're affected by them personally? As if ... different people ... have different experiences ... and you need to consider those?

[@ninjawild]

That's called sympathy. I will say it for thr 100th time in this comment section. Sympathy is the ability to understand how someone might feel about a situation. Empathy is something that OCCURS when someone has experienced something YOU YOURSELF have experienced. If you are not affected by something personally, it is IMPOSSIBLE to have empathy. You can only show sympathy. Charlie is literally arguing for people to HAVE more empathy by having children. You don't will empathy into being, it is a product of circumstance. When Charlie says, you should have children, he is literally saying you should have children so that you may have more empathy for parents and keeping children safe. I want my politicians to have children so they have skin in the game and enough empathy to have the motivation and the practical solutions to keep children safe, which is harder to find when you just sympathize. People with sympathy will say "I want to keep children safe", people with EMPATHY will say "I actually KEEP my own children safe and I want to extend that to other families, because I empathize with their cause and I know ways to keep children safe, because I do it myself."

[@jimmeltonbradley1497]

Wishful thinking from Charlie Kirk. Trump is good at feeding his base. His appeal to independents is limited.

[@m.b.d7001]

Why TYT is embracing that guy. He is awful.

[@nevyn_karres]

Yeah I am >< close to removing my subscription, this is weird, you do not give nutjobs like Kirk more airtime. Edit: have now unsubscribed after listening to them letting Kirk spew his shiat.

[@slicedbrownies3338]

Exactly you know what this slimeball is trying to do. He thinks there’s some dumb populist he can get to switch sides. Wonder who makes him think he can do that Anna?

[@tayeelshaikh9228]

Would you prefer an echo chamber?

[@dawsondudark]

@@tayeelshaikh9228I’m a bleeding heart liberal and I damn sure don’t want no echo chamber. That’s why trumpers are the way they are

[@nevyn_karres]

@@tayeelshaikh9228 Kirk is not the other side, he is a racist right wing nutjob, he is a very radical minority who we should just ignore, but no, here is tyt treating him as person worth listening to.

[@stellahalcyon9859]

I was skeptical when I saw it was with Charlie Kirk but that was a damned civil conversation. With very little beat down style overtalking. We need more of that.

[@andrewmarkblancher9962]

I know I still got the video stuck in my my mind of cenk yelling in the crowd at Charlie when he was debating another person, this went better

[@hattersburgh]

I hate the use of the the term "President Trump". He is a FORMER president. Saying president Trump over and over again and letting other people call him that unchecked creates confusion for dumb people.

[@nateputerbaugh5709]

@@hattersburgh sadly that IS the honorific. A retired doctor is still called Dr.

[@ianbenjiman]

All former presidents get that privilege, not just Trump.

[@seanmcmichael2551]

Sad that Kirk only got 'values' after he had kids ! I am a catlover guy, and I'm happy that my taxes help other families rear and school their kids. That's not Socialism, it's caring about society and about the general wellbeing of my country.

[@adamfoofighters]

@@seanmcmichael2551 kudos 👏

[@chrisculhane3777]

The debate about kids changing your politics was perfect example how Republicans don't think or care about other people until it's there family

[@PlanAhead-d5b]

There are Bible verses about loving others such as Luke 6:27-28 that make one thing abundantly clear: We're not only called to love people we like; we're also called to love our enemies and those whom we dislike.

[@VRansom-zz5yg]

@@PlanAhead-d5b the Bible is only quoted in situations where the people that are quoting it are either oppressed, or getting their ass kicked. Another use for it, is as a weapon to rile up fanatics. There have been numerous times throughout history, Spanish Inquisition, Salem witch Hunt, inquisitions across Europe, when crusaders turned into cannibals and ate little Muslim children, the Bible and it's quotes don't have a good history. I would rather leave the Bible in church and out of politics. The Bible has proven to be a scary thing

[@BibleThumper94]

@@chrisculhane3777 well I’m willing to die to give my kids a future. Are you willing to die so my kids have a future. Y’all say you’re caring and compassionate which is great but once it’s an inconvenience for you all that goes out the window

[@grimlock1211]

@@PlanAhead-d5b and that is why liberals don't believe in Jesus or the Bible, so then Babylonian morality rules the Media, the flesh, and the day.

[@grimlock1211]

@@chrisculhane3777 oh do shut up, Democrat's sacrifice all the tribes that they pander to to remain in a comfort zone of destruction. Sit down and shadaaappp, you enlightened snail sucking cuck.

[@mspinkgumdrop]

The next time y'all talk to this guy, ask him what he thinks of the childless, figurative father of our country, George Washington.

[@l2iowacowgirl893]

Thank you so much. Nice to have a civil conversation. I get tired of the yelling and heated debates

[@brendanfearn]

well said

[@jakeniemi7565]

I know, right!? Thank you!! Glad to see others agreeing with me on this! We need more healthy debates rather than more echo chambers!!

[@churchesaregroomers]

To be that close to being able to rearrange Kirk's teeth and not doing it 😢

[@JorgeEM1995]

😀😀😀

[@amylynn732]

It's classy that they didn't 😂

[@churchesaregroomers]

@@amylynn732 Sometimes, classy isn't the way

[@MeGustasTu2024]

Honestly, I don’t see the point of having this guy on. Everything he stands for is basically against me as a woman & a Latina. It’s disappointing.

[@kambion]

then softball him...

[@Respectable_Username]

If we want to beat the Right, we have to understand the Right. And to understand somebody, you have to bring them into a space they feel comfortable to let their guard down and tell you what they really feel. And it's only in these vulnerable moments that you can change somebody's mind. Interviews like these are important to watch for those who've lost friends and family to the Far Right. The only way we can bring them home is to understand what it is they feel and fear, and so we can tailor our counterarguments to the things that will _actually_ influence them the most!

[@sneifert1968]

44 minutes is too much time for Kirk

[@tammygarrett9261]

Who cares what this what ever guy thinks? I'm gonna barf. He's an IDIOT. So is VANCE! EVERYONE IS WEIRD!!! I'm in the twilight zone ! Oh my....

[@channelxnewsteam]

Charlie should keep doing these. As a liberal he comes off as way more rational than I usually take him. The civility here is really appreciated

[@C-loke78]

He’s BS saying he didn’t here the whole story about the Medal of Honor he know he heard the whole story like everybody else

[@beeteebz8944]

didn't hear🙂👍 he knew he heard. ( I mix those up all the time.)

[@xaviSF]

Ya he has to “shut up” just in case his donors see this.

[@WedgeKahn00]

Kirk is such proof of grifter mentality. Here he is talking mostly regular politics. Pretty sober analysis. But outside of this interview, he is 100% fire and brimstone and apocalyptic rhetoric! Literally talks in biblical language to wring money out of gullible rhubes. THAT is what a grifter does

[@Dimelobee]

Born into democrat . I’ll be voting for trump this time around

[@rickybennett8216]

Poor thing!!!!!

[@renzobenzo5647]

Same thing!!!!

[@tbewin1z143]

@@rickybennett8216poor thing is all of us if you get your way this November!!!!!!!!

[@lanapapas]

time to go back to school.

[@rickybennett8216]

@@tbewin1z143 sounds like you need a hug from your orange Massa???

[@TheBuckelews]

What a great conversation, more of this is needed! Love both sides coming together with a respectfully thought provoking conversation.

[@mjh9053]

Charlie Kirk is a giant hypocrite. Adios Turning Point

[@amybe3]

Yes he is

[@nevyn_karres]

No for me it was adios TYT, they failed, they interviewed a fascist, rascist moron as an equal, with no satire, no making fun of him.

[@ShogunOrta]

About Kirk saying you need to have kids to be civically more conscious, what about Jesus Christ?

[@angeloiannitelli6589]

Guaranteed he will say we are all God's children

[@adriantufts945]

That's the problem this world knows about church. Not the Lord's love of the church which is us

[@ShogunOrta]

@@angeloiannitelli6589 Yeah, but to care for other people's children that aren't biologically yours is almost the same thing.

[@KnowledgeMasterThe]

Every time he smiled, I thought his mouth would keep expanding, and he'd lean over and bite Ana's head off. He gives me the creeps...

[@JoelMKillion]

This conversation was so refreshing. Seeing this gives me hope that we can come together, talk, be honest with one another in respectful ways, agree where we can, and disagree agreeably. It’s wonderful. More of this.

[@paultrought267]

Having children changed Charlie Kirk profoundly because he always lacked compassion and empathy for others. His kids forced him to reluctantly re-assess this when he had to do something for somebody other than himself.

[@ladypokerdealer]

Exactly and he thinks everyone shares his perspective

[@ninjawild]

No. Charlie merely had sympathy for children before. After having kids he gained empathy for parenting and dealing with children/keeping children safe. Again, sympathy is the ability to understand how someone might feel about a situation, while empathy is feeling the same way another feels about a situation because you have EXPERIENCED that situation or close to as well. You cannot empathize with parents if you have never dealt with children for LONG periods of time (aka being a parent or guardian). What he is trying to say is that if you are a politician who is enacting laws for children but do not have children yourself, then people are allowed to distrust you more than someone with children. I trust people with children to enact policies for children much more than those without, because I don't trust them to do that effectively, because they DONT DO IT PRACTICALLY. People with sympathy say "I want to keep children safe", parents with empathy say "I ACTUALLY KEEP my children safe and I want to extend this to other families, because I empathize with their cause and these policies directly affect me and my family". That's why we want more politicians with families, because it creates stakes and a good incentive structure.

[@dgvaughn]

As I’ve maintained for years, the political right has a completely different worldview from the left. The right is generally me-centric while the left is generally we-centric. This plays out over and over.

[@richardkatz8713]

Well said, but I would add Me and/or racist.

[@briancollins7296]

mepublicans

[@gibransalazar7769]

Me is better. The individual is paramount. The we ppl are community

[@raptorjesas2177]

Yea that's just a nice way of saying it's basically two groups of people who are pro vs anti wealth redistribution