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@madbebopper
@madbebopper 5 жыл бұрын
This was at an old friend's apartment in the East Village in the early 50s. He was a fine saxophonist named Dick Meldonian. Dick recorded it himself and he gave me a cassette of this about 30 years ago. Bird eventually tires of the unnamed 3rd party who continues to ask bird dumb questions. It is a precious moment captured in time of a genius in a casual setting.
@ronfritts1425
@ronfritts1425 4 жыл бұрын
Meldonian was indeed a fine player. Would you please contact me as I've been researching this and other rare live performances by Bird for a book/web project. I too have a cassette copy and would love to speak with you regards your friendship with Dick and content of the tape(s). Thank you Madebopper. Reach me at refritts@gmail.com
@ronfritts1425
@ronfritts1425 4 жыл бұрын
Apologies for the above typo. It's refritts7@gmail.com
@erforderlich5274
@erforderlich5274 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting!
@CalebOrvik
@CalebOrvik 2 жыл бұрын
This was recorded at a hotel I thought…
@zqa12swx
@zqa12swx 3 жыл бұрын
Bird's sound is so HEAVY, it's like velvet or molasses. Very dense, but not 'overblown'. You can learn a ton just from those 2 concert Eb's he starts with, and that velvety vibrato on the 2nd Eb. He practices as if he's playing a concert. Also, when he plays the opening double time phrases, the time-feel of it all stretches. Instead of thinking double time as "1-e-and-ah-2" with Bird it feels like a diagonal line UP, and then Down. One movement. Starting point, destination; fill in with the right notes etc. There's a video with Barry Harris teaching studies how to play a certain phrase on the piano and he was trying to get them to do / see it as one physical movement A ---- B. vs "note note note note note note" etc.
@TheRealG2024
@TheRealG2024 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Exactly. I conceptualize it as one movement in itself and even think of the last note in going to land ON in addition to the first note i depart from and WITHIN THAT travel time i MAY make multiple decisions of the direction i choose to go.
@sttdvs
@sttdvs 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard/read a lot of analysis about this recording. Chilly willies and wide eyes/ears aside, I think the most telling trait about this recording is the way he is practicing in general and the way he is practicing scales. The ‘practicing in general’ comment comes from (or in retaliation to) years of hearing the trope of ‘structured practice’. This is a fallacy and I can’t iterate enough that practice is your own personal (highly personal) journey. Navigating the myriad concepts and technicalities prone to each individual instrument, not to mention overall theory, leads one down many paths with many forks in many roads. For anyone to suggest that there is a ‘way’ to practice is ludicrous. We all get there (i.e. on the bandstand) in our own way. Having stated that, the reason I think that this particular recording (and we’ve all heard countless titans practicing) is so interesting is because you can truly hear where CP is coming from. There’s no metronome, there’s no ‘playbook’ (granted this is obviously something that was made in a hotel room before a gig or by some rich kid who paid for a lesson and brought an early reel to reel tape machine) but what CP does here is run down IDEAS. You’ll notice that he starts out every exercise by blowing and honing in on one note - the tonic - for whatever he wants to explore. The other astounding thing is that when he is running scales… the first note is ‘scooped’… i.e. he’s navigating the tonal center in milliseconds for the cascade of notes that will follow. This isn’t someone who is following a ‘rule book’ or contextualizing each exercise. It’s someone who is exploring the instrument on their own terms, playing around and seeing what happens, and trying to adapt that knowledge into a cohesive sound. At a certain point, you’ve got to just play what whatever comes into your head. Should you have a structured 5/6/7/8 hour practice routine? No. Should you have things that you have acknowledged that are quintessential to work on? Yes. How you incorporate them into your practice routine is entirely subjective. Start every practice routine with ‘automatic writing’, an exercise many authors employ. Just play. The notes do or don’t matter. I guarantee you, within 10mins, you’ll have unearthed 10 things you want to focus on for the day. Bonus tip - do the same thing on the first tune at a gig. No one will notice and you’ll feel free as a…BIRD. Stay safe out there.
@VoodooDewey69
@VoodooDewey69 3 жыл бұрын
Charlie Parker sets the bar for all alto players to ascertain in the jazz world . Legend has it that the first time Freddie Hubbard ever heard Charlie Parker and Philly Joe Jones swinging they were swinging so fast Freddy said it was frightening .He was too scared to even break out his horn .
@cubuffdoc
@cubuffdoc 11 жыл бұрын
This gives me the chills!!! Bird can make scales sound magical. Thanks for posting!
@Suchapill
@Suchapill 6 жыл бұрын
+cubuffdoc Exactly. He is uncanny!
@allen6924
@allen6924 5 жыл бұрын
That's what I've always said about him. His effortlessly ability to make scales really sing. And how he closes out the scale run, is still in a class by itself. He is "jazz"; even though he didn't like to be called a jazz artist. He was the reason all those cats that came after were playing the way they did.
@Suchapill
@Suchapill 6 жыл бұрын
He sounds like Pan, from mythology. When his lips and fingers touch the instrument music is Everywhere. A cascade of inventive melodies. Joyful.
@safwannizam2932
@safwannizam2932 5 жыл бұрын
Now imagine him doing this everyday, 10 hours, for a decade
@abelton20
@abelton20 5 жыл бұрын
Correction: 11 to 15 hours a day, over a period of 3 to 4 years
@BryceDAnderson1952
@BryceDAnderson1952 3 жыл бұрын
Snoop Dog is worth 650 million....... Parker basically died broke
@karvakeisari9359
@karvakeisari9359 3 жыл бұрын
@@BryceDAnderson1952 which one will be written about in history books 200 years from now?
@TheSteelDialga
@TheSteelDialga 2 жыл бұрын
@@karvakeisari9359 both of them as they are both influential artists in their respective genres
@cjgreen4331
@cjgreen4331 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSteelDialga Chad Zoro ending debates
@javijazztazz
@javijazztazz 13 жыл бұрын
This is great Parker played a few bars of the Klose Book excercise 23 at 0:27 he played a few bars of the excersice
@gabrielsternsax
@gabrielsternsax 6 жыл бұрын
and he's playing in A major for sax, as oppose to C major like it's written on the book
@MrJhrbek
@MrJhrbek 3 жыл бұрын
@@gabrielsternsax It as if he is reading the exercise in concert key and transposing it
@jazzygiraffe8589
@jazzygiraffe8589 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrJhrbek He's certainly got it memorised though
@ilegak
@ilegak 6 жыл бұрын
i do not think anyone else uses the sax like that...,the quality of the notes....,none can dublicate that sound and musical ideas !!!!!
@kingpleasure
@kingpleasure 13 жыл бұрын
"All the way up the horn." Just incredible to be able to hear this.
@KaRidder234
@KaRidder234 13 жыл бұрын
For Bird, each key had the very same value. He demonstrated how he played the scales: Not in the usual practice from C to G to D to A to E to B to F#, then from F to Bb to Eb to Ab to Db to Gb, no, he played them from one tone, up to the next half-tone, chromatically. ∽∽ That way of thinking chromatically enabled him to play easily in each possible key. ∽∽ The rest is about the unique way how he put all those things together, how he created all those melodies & rhythms and made them swing.
@Realblakemoody
@Realblakemoody 7 жыл бұрын
very nice observation and insight. thanks for sharing =-)
@Suchapill
@Suchapill 6 жыл бұрын
Beautiful !
@blex9125
@blex9125 5 жыл бұрын
ok
@emilianoturazzi
@emilianoturazzi 4 жыл бұрын
actually he didn't play in all tonalities - to play a scale is not the same as to improvise in that key. I practise scales chromatically ever since I was 20, but to play a clarinet solo in E (concert key) isn't the same as playing that scale. Bird's improvisations are in a very limited range of scales: Bb, F, Eb, sometimes C, few exemples in G and Ab... I don't remember any in E, Gb, Db (but am sure there are for this key - Body and soul at least), B or D...
@gatozagarra7635
@gatozagarra7635 3 жыл бұрын
@@emilianoturazzi I dis some classaes with Barry Harris in NY as well as Netherlands and what surprise me was his concept on the down runs.Just like Barry teaches,ends on the srongest points of the tonal center you are playing. .
@ВадимОпалев-б6и
@ВадимОпалев-б6и 5 жыл бұрын
...прошло много лет, а Чарльз звучит совершенно современно, и так будет много лет. Это и есть настоящий гений ❤
@cooljazzr
@cooljazzr Жыл бұрын
Amazing. Shows he didn't just make up those incredibly fast 32nd note runs. He worked on those in practice sessions. That run at 0:17! Just wow!
@saxmandiggle1573
@saxmandiggle1573 5 жыл бұрын
I like his references to classical music.
@christopherfischer6998
@christopherfischer6998 Жыл бұрын
Exercise 23 of the Klose book!
@lastknowngood0
@lastknowngood0 7 жыл бұрын
Nice anything rare by Bird is very much appreciated!
@stormyfeather9035
@stormyfeather9035 Ай бұрын
Fantastik Kenny and Red.Wow...
@RICHIELOVESAXWORLD1
@RICHIELOVESAXWORLD1 13 жыл бұрын
Yeah I practiced Bird everyday for Years...The only way to Fly..
@kwamethver2.033
@kwamethver2.033 3 жыл бұрын
Cheese.
@purplecloud191702
@purplecloud191702 13 жыл бұрын
blowing out cobwebs. doesnt matter what exercise he playing.
@allen6924
@allen6924 5 жыл бұрын
That's what I've always said about him. His effortless ability to make scales really sing. And how he closes out the scale run, is still in a class by itself. He is "jazz"; even though he didn't like to be called a jazz artist. He was the reason all those cats that came after were playing the way they did.
@TRAVISLANE6
@TRAVISLANE6 8 жыл бұрын
a master getting ready play!
@maxLeifermann
@maxLeifermann 12 жыл бұрын
For future reference to anyone reading this, Google "video2mp3" for free online service where you type in a KZbin address and it makes a recording of it for you. I've used it several times with no hassles. I also like this recording btw!
@purplecloud191702
@purplecloud191702 13 жыл бұрын
this is sooo cool, blowing out the cobwebs.doesn't matter what exercises he playing.
@nyshoefly
@nyshoefly 14 жыл бұрын
This is a sax lesson he gave I believe. This is awesome thanks for posting!
@isaiahrichardsonjr1742
@isaiahrichardsonjr1742 7 жыл бұрын
nyshoefly salmon interview not a lesson. It was at the apartment of a man named Meldonian early 1955. Parker was ill
@jamesjonesrocket
@jamesjonesrocket 14 жыл бұрын
@joehenderson1 lol no problem pal, I was so excited when i heard this, i thought everyone else should!
@Suchapill
@Suchapill 6 жыл бұрын
+jamesjonesrocket Thanks!!!
@rdr555
@rdr555 14 жыл бұрын
Genius. Proving he could play in any key.
@colorizedenhanced-timeless2409
@colorizedenhanced-timeless2409 4 жыл бұрын
Good evening, jamesjonesrocket. it is surprisingly distinctive video. thank. :)
@8art
@8art 13 жыл бұрын
Another possibility to "touch" Bird:) Thanks jamesjonesrocket for sharing! I love YT!!
@Thanks-Tokyo
@Thanks-Tokyo Жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@Thalmanmusic
@Thalmanmusic 8 жыл бұрын
Excelente ! Gracias por compartirlo. Me hizo recordar sesiones de amigos en hoteles compartiendo y tocando el sax.
@LaloRojasSax
@LaloRojasSax 10 жыл бұрын
Un tesoro... Muchísimas gracias!!!!!!!!
@Thalmanmusic
@Thalmanmusic 8 жыл бұрын
Increíble coincidir en esta publicación.....eeepaaaaa
@LaloRojasSax
@LaloRojasSax 7 жыл бұрын
Jan Thalman Eeeeeeeeepaaaaa!!!!!
@eytonshalom
@eytonshalom 4 жыл бұрын
God Lives.
@scottrobinson2060
@scottrobinson2060 3 жыл бұрын
1:26-1:31, you can hear the beginnings of Ornette...
@EricAllenDolphy245
@EricAllenDolphy245 3 жыл бұрын
ONE ☝🏾 with the Horn
@dr.brianjudedelimaphd743
@dr.brianjudedelimaphd743 2 ай бұрын
I can hear Bird’s voice, this is not fake
@stevenalexander7413
@stevenalexander7413 7 жыл бұрын
Totally legit. You can hear his voice
@skippruitt2391
@skippruitt2391 3 жыл бұрын
There's is absolutely no doubt who is playing that horn😊
@quame5565
@quame5565 8 жыл бұрын
seems legit
@profeso07
@profeso07 14 жыл бұрын
GREAT !!! Thanks
@devilshark6694
@devilshark6694 Ай бұрын
parker was blues mixed with classical. tempting concotion
@jiyujizai
@jiyujizai 3 жыл бұрын
❣️😃
@bobbymobay
@bobbymobay 12 жыл бұрын
Let me guess....Klose?
@theachkonia7017
@theachkonia7017 7 жыл бұрын
ჩარლი პარკერ! 🎼❤️
@thomasforsythe6353
@thomasforsythe6353 Жыл бұрын
I don't think Miles has been challenged like the line and tempo of Donna Lee. He pulled it off though
@cooljazzr
@cooljazzr 11 ай бұрын
Can anyone hear what they say at the end?
@mambojazz1
@mambojazz1 6 жыл бұрын
what are they talking about?
@jazzygiraffe8589
@jazzygiraffe8589 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting that he practiced that fast. It's known you gotta practice slow to build good technique but I thought you'd also have to practice really slow to sustain it.
@skippruitt2391
@skippruitt2391 3 жыл бұрын
There were probably things he did play slow, but he may have been demonstrating something at the time.
@gatozagarra7635
@gatozagarra7635 3 жыл бұрын
He wasn't practicing.He's checking somebody's sax
@breakfastplan4518
@breakfastplan4518 3 жыл бұрын
Says who? This isnt some amateur student of music you're listening to here. This. Is. Bird. lol
@jazzygiraffe8589
@jazzygiraffe8589 3 жыл бұрын
@@breakfastplan4518 Says literally every teacher I've ever studied with. I think Gato Zagarra and his previous speaker were right
@breakfastplan4518
@breakfastplan4518 3 жыл бұрын
@@jazzygiraffe8589 you should listen to your teachers then... Because there is no iron rule that says practice must be slow.
@otanygirl
@otanygirl 11 жыл бұрын
Hm. Warming up is quite a very private thing, isnt it?
@aaronamccoy
@aaronamccoy 13 жыл бұрын
chromatics
@gatozagarra7635
@gatozagarra7635 3 жыл бұрын
Not at all
@spb7883
@spb7883 8 жыл бұрын
Session details for those interested can be found here: www.plosin.com/milesAhead/BirdSessions.aspx?s=550000 Originally issued (as the uploaded notes) on this album: www.discogs.com/Charlie-Parker-The-Last-Notes-1953-1954/release/3318350
@LaloRojasSax
@LaloRojasSax 7 жыл бұрын
spb 78 💪🏾👏🏿👌
@l.j.2917
@l.j.2917 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! How and where did you find this?
@mjazzguitar
@mjazzguitar 4 жыл бұрын
One story has it he thought there was only one key. A musician told him there were twelve so he practiced in all twelve when at the time they only played in a few keys.
@danielpuyol4227
@danielpuyol4227 5 жыл бұрын
Dialing tone ?
@SirDerp909
@SirDerp909 Жыл бұрын
"Download the Dominos app ...." SHUT UP!
@extanegautham8950
@extanegautham8950 5 ай бұрын
there is a modern Bird wanna-be, Charles McMpherson out of Detroit...his practising, compare to this? is like a 6 year old to a master. An inmpressive difference, not to mention in tone, as well as swing. No offect to Chuck, but Wow..
@MrManguera9
@MrManguera9 12 жыл бұрын
FAKE.
@grantkoeller8911
@grantkoeller8911 6 жыл бұрын
What is fake about this, this is Bird......you can hear it.......
@mambojazz1
@mambojazz1 6 жыл бұрын
that is Bird. No mistake if you know his sound. Also his voice
@mambojazz1
@mambojazz1 6 жыл бұрын
Wrong.
@247hdjazz
@247hdjazz 5 жыл бұрын
CARL, YOU'RE AN IDIOT MAN!
@sixstring4
@sixstring4 4 жыл бұрын
You wish...i never heard anybody play like this, except Bird.
@anthonypayne4665
@anthonypayne4665 4 жыл бұрын
It’s only rare to those who haven’t heard or seen it before
@georgedendulk3657
@georgedendulk3657 Жыл бұрын
Well sir! R u on the scene?! Hell Yeah!
@anthonypayne4665
@anthonypayne4665 Жыл бұрын
@@georgedendulk3657 that’s what happens when you reply to stuff when you’re drunk
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