The Problem With YouTube's "Best" Sub Rolls

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Charlie Anderson

Charlie Anderson

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@MereZen
@MereZen Жыл бұрын
ChainBaker is such an underrated gem in bread baking and I'm glad he was featured here. Does a lot of experiments with each ingredient and lets you understand each of their functions better. Hope you can dial that crust in as I'm curious how yours will fair with the commercial ones
@CharlieAndersonCooking
@CharlieAndersonCooking Жыл бұрын
Yeah his channel has been a big help so far!
@bowmaster20
@bowmaster20 Жыл бұрын
I'll 2nd that (or 28th that based on the number of likes so far) I've enjoyed making bread for a long time but Chainbaker's channel, especially his technique videos have upped my bread game by leaps and bounds
@fiveminutezen
@fiveminutezen Жыл бұрын
Wow, discovering Charlie The Chain Baker during the pandemic has truly been a game-changer for me! His sourdough techniques inspired me to take my bread-making skills to the next level, and incorporating DME in my recipes has revolutionized the texture of my burger buns. Combining Sheldo's potato bun recipe with a honey glaze and flaky salt creates the ultimate kilbasa roll that has my friends raving. Both Charlie and Sheldo are absolute geniuses in the world of baking, and up-and-coming Charlie Anderson is quickly making a name for himself too. I'm so grateful for these amazing videos; they've made my learning journey such a joy!
@DanoneczkQs
@DanoneczkQs Жыл бұрын
Yeah, just wanted to leave a comment for Charlie the Chainbaker as well, awesome that he's been mentioned and as pointed out - I believe that it's a hugely underrated channel which provides us, bakers, with a ton of knowledge supported by ton of experience and experimentation (that's why I love Helen's Rennie too when it comes to cooking). And as for the video, awesome work! I actually love the concept of checking and comparing the recipes, especially as I watch every other channel too :D I ddin't have a chance to bake your NY style pizza yet, but I did really enjoy execution of each episode to get to the perfection and will follow this channel for more of such videos :D
@fiveminutezen
@fiveminutezen Жыл бұрын
@@DanoneczkQs Check out Sheldo's Kitchen too. He doesn't post anymore sadly, but what he has up is really fantastic.
@LifebyMikeG
@LifebyMikeG Жыл бұрын
epic breakdown here Charlie! I can say you put in a lot more research on your roll than I did when creating my recipes haha. Would make any Philly natives proud.
@CharlieAndersonCooking
@CharlieAndersonCooking Жыл бұрын
Hey Mike I really appreciate that!! Your channel was a big inspiration for me to start mine in the first place so it's cool that you came across it!
@LifebyMikeG
@LifebyMikeG Жыл бұрын
@@CharlieAndersonCooking hell yeah dude, keep up the good work. Your content is great!
@yitziyyb
@yitziyyb Жыл бұрын
Let's see a Collab baby!!
@UniteWeThePeople
@UniteWeThePeople Жыл бұрын
Yes collaboration would be sweet!! Cachia’s Bakery is what I’m trying to achieve over here! Moved to the south and my fiancés from Deptford NJ.. about 7 min from Philly. SO after trying their rolls and actually tasting what he means, I agree! There’s nothing like a roll from there. We thought it had something to do with the sea level, them being closer to the Atlantic even &/or some secret bread mafia we’re unaware of 🤣 Good job y’all!
@darleschickens7106
@darleschickens7106 Жыл бұрын
I am absolutely loving this whole socratic-type dialogue between food tubers. Between guys like you, Mike, Ethan, Adam Ragusea etc. all giving it a go at making the “best” version of something, then battling it out and comparing/improving on each others’ recipes we are truly coming upon the ultimate forms of certain food items.
@bigbro973
@bigbro973 Жыл бұрын
I love the topics of your videos bc I own a pizza store. Before I opened my store I went down the rabbit hole of pizza dough, and sub rolls. Commercial bakery dough and breads always have some characteristics I struggle to achieve
@BoldFlavorVegan
@BoldFlavorVegan Жыл бұрын
Love that you’re bringing us along for the journey. All of those rolls looked incredible. Also great to learn about the malt powder, had never heard of that.
@joshualiford4227
@joshualiford4227 Жыл бұрын
For the name of the series I’m thinking “The breakdown” Again you are incredible at nailing each part of the process and teaching the most optimized steps in these iconic dishes.
@richie.messina
@richie.messina Жыл бұрын
instant like before even watching. This is literally something I've been wanting to figure out and you're just doing the work for us and putting it into a well constructed, informative video. YES
@PoeLemic
@PoeLemic Жыл бұрын
Yeah, food's got too expensive. In my family situation, we just can't spend $12 bucks at Subway for a footlong for everyone. We have to share and only go when coupons, now.
@teknix1
@teknix1 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are always so well made and interesting. I don't know if you do all of this on your own or if you have a team but you are nailing this, everything is well planned and organized. I don't necessarily have a thing for food channels but you are making this so interesting, perhaps it's your methodology or enthusiasm. In either case, thank you.
@yannikin
@yannikin Жыл бұрын
Homie did SO MUCH work in one video. Thank you dawg!!
@PizzaHomie
@PizzaHomie Жыл бұрын
This is exactly the kind of content I'm looking for! I really like how it delves deep into the R&D. With the abundance of videos describing similar recipes, we viewers want to know which is "best" and why. Immediate subscriber here. Please keep content like this coming. Thanks Charlie!
@fattdamon5342
@fattdamon5342 Жыл бұрын
As a Philadelphian whose been on this journey I'm glad to see your favorite is my favorite haha. John's is my go to spot specifically because of the roll. I've made all three of the youtubers rolls you have here and while not bad, they weren't quite what I wanted. I felt the salt content was too high and almost a detriment. I'm gonna have to give your initial result here a go tonight. Staying tuned, thanks as always!
@PoeLemic
@PoeLemic Жыл бұрын
Please, update all of us and let us know how it comes out. Also, let us know if you tweak it any too. Somehow, all of us will find a way to crack the code.
@Treyorrrr
@Treyorrrr Жыл бұрын
Did you try it?
@erinwoempner1228
@erinwoempner1228 Жыл бұрын
Sir. Just came across your channel. You are brilliant. A great teacher. And no profanity! God bless you. I am a subscriber
@davidfuller581
@davidfuller581 Жыл бұрын
I've been on this same mission, actually - though instead of Amoroso, my baseline is my local guys, the other "sub roll" bakery, Piantedosi. Similar kind of texture though, thin crisp crust and very light dryish interior that stands up to lots of wet filling really well. So I'm happy to see this video. Thanks, Charlie!
@noemarzib
@noemarzib Жыл бұрын
Awesome work! Glad you focused on the fluffiness because I too found that the Pro Home Cooks recipe was a bit too dense. Keep it up and look forward to more results.
@fabe61
@fabe61 Жыл бұрын
I always forget that this channel hasn't even broken 100k yet. Such great quality content as always :)
@BeWilDuhBeast
@BeWilDuhBeast Жыл бұрын
Great video. Like the NY slice series, I will be following this one intently as well. I find it really interesting that the 3 KZbin chefs you highlighted are the same 3 I starting following around the same time as I started following you :)
@BamBam_PDX
@BamBam_PDX Жыл бұрын
YESSSS BRO!!!! I’ve been trying to find a legit steak roll recipe for over a decade.
@larrybrown1971
@larrybrown1971 Жыл бұрын
Keep making this kind of content, man. Your channel needs to blow up. I'm not a Philly Cheesesteak fan, but I'll be watching all these videos just because of your approach. I still hope you'll do a deep dish Chicago style pizza series.
@CharlieAndersonCooking
@CharlieAndersonCooking Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoy it! I definitely want to tackle Chicago deep dish at some point
@janem3575
@janem3575 Жыл бұрын
me neither, but I'm looking for the perfect sub roll. crisp chew and yet soft enough so my sub innards don't shot out the other end!
@CGagnon5
@CGagnon5 Жыл бұрын
I’m so excited for this series. I’ve been looking to get into making my own rolls because no store bough rolls are cutting it
@hotlineqing
@hotlineqing Жыл бұрын
the amount of effort that goes into these vids is crazy
@jnorth3341
@jnorth3341 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for making this and I'm glad it popped up on my recommended, I'm not (currently) a baker but I've been wanting to make a good cheese steak with some dry aged ribeye (that's something I do). The three recipes I was looking at are just the ones you did. Guess I'll have to subscribe and see what else you've been doing. Like your format, very similar style to Ethan's (I like that).
@actuallynotsteve
@actuallynotsteve Жыл бұрын
As always, they all look amazing. I already had subscribed to the "pick a thing I really like and continuously make it daily until I get it perfect, then move on to another" mentality you kind of display, so these videos are right at home for me. I'm moving off chicken wings and can't believe how much better I was able to make them than any place I've been to here, even those that are locally known as having the best wings. And this is LA. It really seems like any time you have to make something in very, very large quantities on a regular basis, quality takes a hit. The best version of the wings take 26 minutes in an air fryer, and people just aren't going to want to want half an hour for chicken wings. You can do it in an oil fryer with canola oil in 13, and that's acceptable, but the taste and crunch takes a small hit. Would be interesting to see if there are any places out there that acknowledge that your food will take 30-60 minutes to arrive, but it's because they're doing the absolute best version of it that they can, all from scratch.
@bigtimestearn
@bigtimestearn Жыл бұрын
I make a handful of Brian's recipes. Made his ciabatta over the weekend, loved it.
@diablo5597
@diablo5597 Жыл бұрын
Keep grinding and making videos of this quality and your channel will explode. I am certain of it.
@CharlieAndersonCooking
@CharlieAndersonCooking Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that! Thanks for watching
@Opusss
@Opusss Жыл бұрын
Brian worked in a pro bakery before doing the KZbin thing. He also blew up when he did. I follow all of the channels you tried but Brian quickly became my favorite. Should probably include links to their channels in the future. Its just good form when using their recipes in your own videos.
@iBMcFly
@iBMcFly 9 ай бұрын
Settle down Daren.
@brooks6295
@brooks6295 Жыл бұрын
Hey Charlie, keep in mind the bread steams a bit when you wrap the finished sandwich in paper, which I recommend you do for the best outcome. This may effect what bread comes out the best.
@chickadeetle
@chickadeetle 6 ай бұрын
Even when I'm eating it at home, I wrap my sandwiches as if I got them to go to get that steaming effect.
@piguy3945
@piguy3945 10 ай бұрын
Love the recipe experimentation and alterations!
@ajhickl01
@ajhickl01 Жыл бұрын
As a Six Sigma master black belt I would like to commend you on your “design of experiment” technique” in developing your approach for finding the “optimum” approach to making Philly cheesesteak rolls. Can’t wait to try your updated versions in the next video.
@jackscully4686
@jackscully4686 Жыл бұрын
I did a huge roll testing day with a friend a while back. Our biggest takeaway was use CRISCO! I do 63% hydration with 10% CRISCO. It contains mono-and di-glycerides which help the fat bond to the gluten network and was far better than oil in our quest to get soft sandwich rolls.
@jackscully4686
@jackscully4686 Жыл бұрын
also a tip: always wrap the sandwich in for a few minutes before digging in. You can put in in the oven to keep warm, but the wrap is not just packaging.
@CharlieAndersonCooking
@CharlieAndersonCooking Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that tip! After some further testing, I’m currently at 59% hydration with 10% vegetable oil. I tried margarine and didn’t see a huge difference between that and the vegetable oil but I’ll definitely give Crisco a try too!
@CharlieAndersonCooking
@CharlieAndersonCooking Жыл бұрын
Hey Jack! Do you mind if I mention your comment in an upcoming video? I tried Crisco, and you're right that it makes the rolls so much softer! I think I'm going to incorporate it into the final recipe
@jackscully4686
@jackscully4686 Жыл бұрын
@@CharlieAndersonCooking By all means, I would be honored.
@frenchyalicea649
@frenchyalicea649 Жыл бұрын
@Charlie Anderson has the new vid come out as of yet?? My issue is finding the Diastatic malt in bulk!
@artbaldwin4491
@artbaldwin4491 Жыл бұрын
I just wish he would provide a traditional recipe. I am new to baking and have no idea how to convert his percentages to actual measurements. Would love to try his recipe though.
@frickezthias8638
@frickezthias8638 Жыл бұрын
I like this format of trying 3 recipes for a particular food from KZbin's most popular videos/creators
@InstancesKMS
@InstancesKMS Жыл бұрын
glad to see your channel is blowing up fast. even though it's an algorithm you can clearly see some meritocracy here
@Russellkhan
@Russellkhan Жыл бұрын
I like your approach. And thanks for using baker's percentages. It's really the best method of communicating what's in a dough. For your crust: Try spraying with water immediately before putting the loaves in the oven then enclose it for the first part of the bake. I'm not actually sure how I'd do that with the size of the loaves you're working with. Perhaps bake them in a sheet pan and cover that sheet pan with another upside down sheet pan. I'm not sure if that will allow enough rising height though.
@icemancantcook
@icemancantcook Жыл бұрын
Those rolls all look great. I agree that diastolic malt powder would be the best. Makes me want to make some cheesesteas this weekend!
@archimedes131
@archimedes131 Жыл бұрын
Very nice! I love all those dudes you referenced. ...and you are climbing my list.
@bruschi8148
@bruschi8148 Жыл бұрын
Another awesome series Charlie
@meeker03
@meeker03 Жыл бұрын
Ah the next installment of a massive deep dive to recreate something as best as possible at home. Love it. I was surprised that no Joshua Weissman recipe was used, but whatever cause this series rocks!
@CharlieAndersonCooking
@CharlieAndersonCooking Жыл бұрын
Yeah his was almost the same as Brian's so I just picked one of the two. I'm glad you like the series though!
@marcelpacheco7878
@marcelpacheco7878 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing these!
@Hoffbottraces
@Hoffbottraces Жыл бұрын
Charlie, watching Angelo’s stories for what seems like forever, Danny (the owner) does an overnight poolish and what appears to be another over night bulk ferment. Also looks like a combination of double zero flour and something else. See that video of Nino and Brad making pizza, Nino does a double zero in his preferment and a more KAF AP style protein level Caputo flour for his mix. I suspect Angelos is pretty similar ratio wise. Angelos also uses Le 5 Stagioni’ flour from Agugiaro & Figna Molini. Malt is the secret ingredient in most good bread doughs, it works wonders. Let me know if you ever want a good bagel recipe!
@janem3575
@janem3575 Жыл бұрын
YES! bagels!!!
@joetacchino4470
@joetacchino4470 Жыл бұрын
Josh Weissman uses the amalayse and it REALLY works well. Looking forward to trying some of these. Thanks Charlie!
@lodcomm
@lodcomm 9 ай бұрын
Great vid... Can you tell me what oven temp you used for your rolls, was it an eggwhite wash you painted them with for sesame adhesion? and did you use the icecube steaming process? thanks man!
@deliciousgroove
@deliciousgroove 7 ай бұрын
Very nice. I love how you analyzed this. I'll try your diastatic malt powder next time. Thank you.
@mikesweeney2324
@mikesweeney2324 Жыл бұрын
Great video, I also just did Brian/Ethan's rolls and had the same thought. Worth mentioning that Dough Conditioner contains both enzymes and malt powder. It's often used in commercial breads to get that fluffy texture.
@Kevin_747
@Kevin_747 Жыл бұрын
You put in the homework for sure. I use the malt powder in my recipe and have very good results. Nothing beats a good home baked sandwich roll.
@vittoriabakes
@vittoriabakes Жыл бұрын
I've been making Ethan's hoagie recipe for my sammiches and it's been awesome. And adding the Italian seasonings on the top makes for an extra tasty roll. However I'm always up for trying out new ones. The second roll in the lineup there that you were really digging, was that the one with the 2% malt?
@CharlieAndersonCooking
@CharlieAndersonCooking Жыл бұрын
I'll have to try that! Yes, that was the one with 2% malt (my recipe #4). I'm just realizing that I should have laid them out in order from #1-4 to make it easier to follow haha.
@bruschi8148
@bruschi8148 Жыл бұрын
Ethans recipe is great
@vittoriabakes
@vittoriabakes Жыл бұрын
@@CharlieAndersonCooking Thanks! Adding text overlay for things like that is always appreciated for us scatterbrained viewers lol :)
@janem3575
@janem3575 Жыл бұрын
just subscribed after watching several of your videos. it's even harder to get good NY slice in Canada. The texture of roll you're describing sounds to me, like a vietnamese banh mi baguette roll. May I also suggest Joshua Weisman? he's a really good cook and makes all his components from scratch! LOL. I've seen several suggestions in the comments now re: Weisman. NEXT!
@szinski
@szinski Жыл бұрын
Amoroso rolls purchased frozen or from the store use a different recipe than the ones sold to sandwich shops. The frozen/store rolls have a much longer shelf life, whereas the ones that sandwich shops have delivered fresh will only last a day or two.
@davidmckean955
@davidmckean955 Жыл бұрын
They seemed to be baked by a different bakery too. They still seem like the best choice if you don't want to make your own roll.
@matt-g-recovers
@matt-g-recovers Жыл бұрын
Dude, fantastic job. you do like I do in your refinement of process. Glad to see while Brian's wasn't enriched like the others that you gave it props then went your own direction. I make a cast iron focaccia with super expensive cloth bound cheddar that I have 3 cities worth of eh, support groups... addicted to :) its one of the many ways I give back to the community. Anyway I started with Lagerstrom's focaccia recipe and refined it. Anyway, I am at Kroger gotta grab some things then home to try again with cheesesteaks. I'm making some now that are divine, but I always find some way I could improve...this time it's the bread. Ive made Brian's sandwich bread previously and enjoyed it though felt it was a bit dense for my tastes. Interested to try this malt powder.
@BamBam_PDX
@BamBam_PDX Жыл бұрын
You gotta try Liscio’s from South Jersey. That’s what Pat’s and Genoa’s use, which they don’t have the best cheesesteaks, but I think that bread is the best.
@ericdunkelberger6811
@ericdunkelberger6811 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I have been trying to come up with my own recipe to use for hoagies. Angelo's rolls are a notch above the other rolls in Philly and made in house. They are not the same as Carangi. If you can decipher the secrets Angelos have, you will be in set. Also then I won't have to keep experimenting.
@Antonin1738
@Antonin1738 Жыл бұрын
We need an iron chef-like contest between youtuber chefs
@danbain6678
@danbain6678 6 ай бұрын
Wow. Great work on this
@jamesstein5087
@jamesstein5087 Жыл бұрын
Hello, how many grams of flour did you use for these hoagies? They are the perfect size. I own a NY style pizza shop and looking to add sandwiches to the menu. Let me know and I’ll name a sandwich after you:). Love your attention to detail and your tenacity, keep ‘em coming. Thanks
@CharlieAndersonCooking
@CharlieAndersonCooking Жыл бұрын
I used 225g of dough for a 10" roll! So I think that would be 131g of flour based on the recipe from this video. I shaped them to around 9" long, but they end up closer to 10" by the time they're baked.
@jamesstein5087
@jamesstein5087 Жыл бұрын
@@CharlieAndersonCooking Appreciate your response! Thanks.
@kamranki
@kamranki 7 ай бұрын
Very interesting! Need to get my hands on diastatic malt powder! Thanks for sharing this.
@j.aaronmccoy3112
@j.aaronmccoy3112 Ай бұрын
Bit late to the show here, but I find a Vietnamese style Bahn mi roll work great. The Bahn mi roll has a thin crispy crust and a soft crumb and I find very similar to Amoroso's.
@mehmetyerlikaya176
@mehmetyerlikaya176 Жыл бұрын
Great cooking series!
@kriskolo
@kriskolo Жыл бұрын
so.. your winner is ethan's recippe without sugar and sub milk with water basically. but i did love the breakdown and love that there was more to learn. great video.
@50sKid
@50sKid Жыл бұрын
Charlie, check out something called dough conditioner. I bought one made by a brand called scratch. It’s got a combination of several ingredients that turn your bread into super fluffy goodness. It’s like diastatic malt powder on crack.
@CharlieAndersonCooking
@CharlieAndersonCooking Жыл бұрын
Yeah I’ve been playing around with that exact same product actually for my Amoroso-style recipe! I think I may end up incorporating into the recipe.
@50sKid
@50sKid Жыл бұрын
@@CharlieAndersonCooking Nice, looking forward to it
@poufro
@poufro Жыл бұрын
Chleb (Ethan Chlebowski) means bread in Polish.
@boblehmann1644
@boblehmann1644 Жыл бұрын
I just made Ethan's Hoagie Rolls yesterday. This was the second time I've made them. First time I left out the Malt Powder because I didn't have any This, still no Malt Powder, but I put in a little Blackstrap Molasses. They are so good! Next time I'm trying the Barley Malt Syrup I use in Bagels.
@markgreer6585
@markgreer6585 Жыл бұрын
Charlie: Another fantastic video...but can you clarify your conclusion? When you say that the best result in your test was the 'diastatic malt one'... Do you mean specifically your recipe #4? Thanks.
@CharlieAndersonCooking
@CharlieAndersonCooking Жыл бұрын
Yes I was referring specifically to my recipe #4! I'm still playing around with a few factors in order to make them as perfect as they can be, but I think that will be pretty close to the final recipe.
@markgreer6585
@markgreer6585 Жыл бұрын
@@CharlieAndersonCooking Thanks so much!
@cy6412
@cy6412 Жыл бұрын
This dude is a legend.
@zay-lias
@zay-lias Жыл бұрын
Charlie wait…. You go from perfecting my favorite kinds of pizza to my favorite anything that’s between bread: Philly cheese steak…. I’m gonna send you my doctors bills after I get too fat from these recipes 😂😂😂
@PoeLemic
@PoeLemic Жыл бұрын
This is great content. Lot of us are trying to copycat Subway and Jersey Mike's, because the food is just too expensive now. Who wants to spend $12 bucks (Subway) or $ 16 (JM) for a sub? For us, we just can't. We're older now and a more limited budget, and we're taking care of a very old parent that can't live alone by herself, so we've got to save. And, feed everyone from (say) Subway (even) just ain't possible, unless we've got the BUY ONE GET ONE FREE DEALS that are 2 subs for $12.99, when they have coupons -- which we had yesterday, actually. Thus, everything is going to be copied and created with a scientific process almost, where we can replicate it and reproduce whatever exactly and whenever we want. So, your channel helps us progress towards that goal.
@CharlieAndersonCooking
@CharlieAndersonCooking Жыл бұрын
I'm glad the videos have helped! Yeah it's definitely more cost effective to make them yourself, and they taste better too!
@PoeLemic
@PoeLemic Жыл бұрын
@@CharlieAndersonCooking Maybe a suggestion, which you don't have to implement. Is adding the cost variable to the end result. Then, people know how much final product costs. Like you'd rock people's world, if they find out a good Hoogie Roll only costs 50 cents or whatever to make.
@krauz111
@krauz111 Жыл бұрын
just bought the malt, will try them soon!
@BobbyCougar
@BobbyCougar 9 ай бұрын
Alright Mr. Anderson, well done! I stopped watching KZbin recipes because of the fluff and stuck to Pinterest. But that ended today, keep em coming!
@AnthonyJarrah
@AnthonyJarrah Жыл бұрын
Charlie can you please be more specific about what flour and yeast you used? What protein content flour? Did you use fresh compressed yeast, instant dry yeast, or active dry yeast?
@CharlieAndersonCooking
@CharlieAndersonCooking Жыл бұрын
For these, I just used King Arthur bread flour (12.7% protein) and instant dry yeast.
@poleun9
@poleun9 Жыл бұрын
This is the deepest dive recipe channel ever! By 99.9, 9, 9%
@Gottix
@Gottix Жыл бұрын
I hope you tell is what kind of flour you use (protein). What kind of yeast etcetera etcetera
@CharlieAndersonCooking
@CharlieAndersonCooking Жыл бұрын
For these recipes I used King Arthur Bread flour and instant dry yeast! The only exception was Mike's recipe because it called for all-purpose flour, so I used King Arthur all-purpose for that one.
@Gottix
@Gottix Жыл бұрын
Thank for the info! When is the next video online? I love this serie...😊
@AlexMiller6
@AlexMiller6 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you thought Brian's was the best. He's the man. And he used to work at Union Loafers in St. Louis, which has the best sandwich I've ever eaten, if you ever find yourself in that area!
@Rokegle135
@Rokegle135 Жыл бұрын
Good video quality, good audio quality, in depth explanations and not overwhelmingly cringe to appeal to "neurodivergent" zoomers no reason not to sub. Also pretty sure spraying the dough with a mister before putting it into the oven helps develop a crispy crackly crust
@brianshaw373
@brianshaw373 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting assessment! I've only made Mike's recipe and had to modify it to reduce the sugar. The result was good byt even at half of specified sugar it was too sweet for me. I used alpha-amylaze as specified and found interesting is that it is a 4% formulation with 96% "filler" being glucose (label disclosure). Trying to figure out how that compares to diastatic malt because the 1/50 doesn't ever seem to have good reference. There is such secrecy about dough enhancer contents and even knowledgable experts selling the stuff seem rather unsure of technical details. It seems that the malt will always taste better.
@rickgeorgette9657
@rickgeorgette9657 Жыл бұрын
Hi Can you tell me the flour you used.
@mikejanacone8328
@mikejanacone8328 Жыл бұрын
The best Philly cheesesteak role is a hybrid between French and Italian bread
@pequodexpress
@pequodexpress 26 күн бұрын
I've got to give Ethan's recipe a go within the next 15 minutes. However, I have to leave out the diastatic malt powder and add 80g of flour, which is a 20% increase. My understanding is that I need to up everything else by 20%: salt, liquids, yeast, honey, etc.
@PoeLemic
@PoeLemic Жыл бұрын
Charlie ... This is what we use for the meat (search: "Kroger Beef Shaved Steak"), because it's affordable and already cut. It's $5.99 here. At walmart, it's $5.88 (S: "Beef Shaved Steak 1 lb"). So, that's very affordable, then we use thin sliced Provolone cheese. But, again, like I said, we haven't conquered the rolls yet. We just buy them next-day at Jimmy John's until we master them.
@CharlieAndersonCooking
@CharlieAndersonCooking Жыл бұрын
Interesting, I appreciate those tips! I've been struggling to find a good pre-sliced beef so I'll definitely check those out.
@PoeLemic
@PoeLemic Жыл бұрын
@@CharlieAndersonCooking Again, this is seriously great content. Remember. Lot of people are being ALMOST CRUSHED by Inflation. Maybe not you, but older people are really feeling it. We're able to make it okay, but we are feeling it and really cutting down. But, I know families (swear to you) that are fearing month-to-month. So, people being able to replicate stuff at home (on the cheap and close enough to restaurant quality) is something that a ridiculous KZbin fortune could be built on.
@PoeLemic
@PoeLemic Жыл бұрын
@@CharlieAndersonCooking Yeah, @CA, don't fucking mess with cutting it yourself. We've tried and not worth getting slicer out, and that price is ridiculously cheap. The meat costs more than that. Granted, you might only get 14 oz vs. 16 oz, but it's not enough of a difference to mess with it. It works perfect for PC-Steaks. Trust me. It's excellent and readily available.
@donaldexley1852
@donaldexley1852 Жыл бұрын
Brian made an awesome roll for his meatball sandwich, it might be worth checking.
@dpelpal
@dpelpal Жыл бұрын
Loved this video! But I think you're missing one thing that (I'm guessing) nearly all commercial bakeries use: Dough Conditioner. I have a feeling that it won't be listed on the packaging because the amount is so small it isn't legally required. And no, I'm not saying everyone should use DC for every loaf of bread they bake.....A french pain de campagne certainly shouldn't have it. But I really like a quote from Brian Lagerstrom on this issue....he was trying to make a perfect hamburger bun at home. And he was like (and I'm paraphrasing) "I thought DC was just for dumb, industrial style bread. Well, it turns out that mass produced hamburger buns are exactly that: Dumb, industrial bread." From what I understand, nearly all commercial bakeries use it🤷‍♂
@TigerGreene
@TigerGreene Жыл бұрын
I'm vegan and I love love loved this video! Testing and science-based cooking is fantastic. I want to try to make one with vegan butter, one with soymilk, and one with both to see how they turn out.
@RedboRF
@RedboRF Жыл бұрын
thanks man, really interesting
@stevetaylor1904
@stevetaylor1904 2 ай бұрын
Try painting the roll with butter as it cools. It really softens the crust. I then scoop out some of the bread like do in Europe, that way the filling is the star
@cugir321
@cugir321 Жыл бұрын
Aldi's sells Amoroso bagged rolls.....put them in the oven with their instructions and they are very close to fresh.
@zachmusco7020
@zachmusco7020 Жыл бұрын
I mean I usually think I’m into bakers percentages and figuring things out, but this is so impressive as far as how much is put into this
@hizzlemobizzle
@hizzlemobizzle Жыл бұрын
Damn dude that is one heavy duty entry door you have there.
@drizz1256
@drizz1256 Жыл бұрын
Awesome content. Hope you can perfect them rolls.
@WarChortle
@WarChortle Жыл бұрын
I was thinking that a Vietnamese baguette might be the softness you're looking for.
@PoeLemic
@PoeLemic Жыл бұрын
Can you give a link or a Google search term for all of us here to have as a reference? Hey, put links separately in a reply, because YT might delete comment. Do a Google search term. I guess "vietnamese baguette" might work. Right?
@PoeLemic
@PoeLemic Жыл бұрын
Yeah, great. They fucking deleted my search term response that I just gave you. I responded, but looks like it got deleted. So, shit, I'll recreate it below.
@PoeLemic
@PoeLemic Жыл бұрын
Damn them. Well let me break it out. I searched it and found "fullofplants" with a period and a com-pany (not pany on it). Then, the recipe was, "How To Make Bánh Mì (Vietnamese Baguette)". So, that might help @Charlie out to progress faster.
@CharlieAndersonCooking
@CharlieAndersonCooking Жыл бұрын
It's funny you mention that because recently came across a Bahn Mi video that has helped me make a few important realizations (this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rajFiGawnsegg6s). You're right that it's pretty close in style to a good cheesesteak roll!
@MasterTuttoo
@MasterTuttoo Жыл бұрын
Can you deconstruct new Orleans fried chicken next
@Sheriff_K
@Sheriff_K Жыл бұрын
Honestly the bread is the most important part of a sandwich, and is the main reason (another reason being sauce) I haven't had a good sandwich since Quizno's went bankrupt decades ago..
@tomspiers1658
@tomspiers1658 8 ай бұрын
So do we have a winner on the recipe and what is it?
@mortmortmort8908
@mortmortmort8908 Жыл бұрын
I feel like this confirms Ethan knows what he's doing pretty well.
@cyrex6879
@cyrex6879 Жыл бұрын
good job man like the video
@kilroyscarnivalfl
@kilroyscarnivalfl Жыл бұрын
Interesting that you tried all those variables… and we’re big fans of Brian, Ethan, Mike and ChainBaker here. One question: did you never vary your flours? Think you could alter the chewiness by using various protein %, from King Arthur bread flour on down to a lower protein all-purpose.
@popdeckIM
@popdeckIM Жыл бұрын
Is the recipe posted somewhere?
@jaloux8583
@jaloux8583 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s recipe #4, we definitely know it’s not the high sugar one. Just follow the bakers percentages, they have plenty of Baker calculators out their to simply it if need be.
@Handle22557
@Handle22557 Жыл бұрын
I just made Lagerstorm's sub roll today and found it too dense. Next in the queue was Ethan's, but thanks to this vid I'm going to skip it and follow your lead. Thanks!
@GSGTRFC
@GSGTRFC Жыл бұрын
I’d like a video on how to make different types of french fries 👍🏻
@shibaimtiaz7695
@shibaimtiaz7695 Жыл бұрын
Please do something similar for shawarmas!!!!
@charliejelke2021
@charliejelke2021 Жыл бұрын
my man! i've been doing this same research for months. i miss cheesesteaks. good cheesesteaks. my wifi network is called john's roast pork for christ's sake
@anthonychimienti5386
@anthonychimienti5386 Жыл бұрын
Putting the dough in the fridge for 24-hours makes a huge difference. Take the same dough, bake it put half in the fridge for 24-hours. You got a way bread the next day
@efuass
@efuass Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you doing these copycat-ish vids. I hope you continue doing this as a bulk of your channel. These will be the best copycat series' on YT.
@PoeLemic
@PoeLemic Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I agree. I also like Joshua Weissman, but he goes TOO FAR OUT sometimes on food.
@diablo5597
@diablo5597 Жыл бұрын
this is quality content.
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