Elden Ring: Moonveil (Weapon Showcase Ep.23)

[@ChaseTheBro]

Hey everyone! I have seen a lot of comments asking when streams will return. I just wanted to let you know I have been on vacation and wont return until closer to the last week of June. Streams will continue then!

[@amitgabay3721]

Oh no! I just hope you went to confession after this video. Using the moonveil is a mortal sin

[@360claymooore]

Enjoy your vacations good sir! Loving the showcases so far

[@spoobasement4189]

Been watching you everyday since before covid started! Don't know what I'll do when you're gone! I will miss your positivity! have a safe trip my friend!

[@thekaz5225]

Have a good vacation dude.

[@johncrow5072]

@@amitgabay3721 i heard he was denied communion when his priest found out.

[@dawitgugsa]

Imagine you finally get to duel this guy and it’s moonveil day

[@PierreLucSex]

It's like a speedrun to the "You Die" screen, could be worse

[@AriShinato]

Could be worse. Rivers of blood has yet to be showcased

[@paris5831]

@@AriShinato oh god

[@wellingtonrodrigues7654]

@@AriShinato Omg...

[@lastEvergreen]

He must have thought it was moonveil day. It ain’t moonveil day is it?

[@thefishgolder]

I’m actually kinda sad chase remembered his flask this time. Didn’t even realize how much I looked forward to chase remembering he forgot to change his flask

[@JesusRojas-wu8nd]

What will come first, Elden Ring DLC or Chase remembering to fix his flask before a showcase? I guess the realistic one 😔

[@pliablegalinstan6564]

Chase: Deletes his opponent Also Chase: Fun fight!

[@corndogrequiem1728]

"I feel terrible... Fun fight though, man!"

[@goreobsessed2308]

It'd fun to be godlike sometimes

[@ChaosShadow00x]

Legitimately why I love Chase's content. Super nice and polite, even when he completely evaporates some one.

[@joshseveck5040]

such a wholesome man. Even when he moonveils!

[@athmil8302]

Seeing someone actually good use moonveil is pretty terrifying.

[@chickysausages]

Thankfully 99% of MV and ROB users absolutely suck at using them lol

[@theloyalwraiths8827]

I see a lot of people on other thread say MV is bad. I'm always like, if you think that mate you've never seen a good player use it. Shit is mad OP.

[@thethumblessn00b19]

@@theloyalwraiths8827 MV isn’t bad it’s just meh. The WA is telegraphed VERY badly. Easily dodged, MV/RoB is only OP when against more than one or projectile spam, then you’ll need to do some risk calcs 🙃 Nagikiba best katana currently imo, flexible WA, increase range, same attacks and speed :)

[@theloyalwraiths8827]

@@thethumblessn00b19 Oh boi. The issue with the AoW is that it comes out fast enough that it can punish many other options. It outdamages AoWs like giant hunt despite being fast enough to be reaction traded into giant hunt. This is the issue with moonveil. On top of Katanas being overtuned in this game, and bleed being overtuned, which they all have innately. While the Nagakibas reach is ridiculous, and I frankly think it should have lower damage than it does because of that. The moonveils AoW is game breaking. As it can freely punish any whiff with little to no skill.

[@pianospawn1]

@@thethumblessn00b19 dude the WA is incredibly quick and ussually takes half a health bar. It's not "meh"

[@SmolJam3]

I like how in elden ring, the running heavies are actual attacks instead of the jumping attacks

[@rashidalhajali1069]

Bloodborne did that as well, running heavy attacks being different from lunge/jump attacks.

[@kev1502]

I wish this thing wasn’t just horrifically overtuned bc it’s honestly a really fun moveset

[@-Four-]

You can just lower your offensive stats if you want more challenge and still use moonveil

[@urthpainter]

funny you should say that, because I think I enjoyed this weapon way more from found to +6, then from +7 on -- just due to how hard it hits

[@nebulous9280]

@@-Four- It can definitely be annoying having to gimp your build in order to use a weapon fairly. Plus, those stats have to go somewhere useful, and not everyone is into using Larval Tears every time they wanna use a single weapon lol

[@goreobsessed2308]

What's crazy is it's been nerfed the damage and range on the waves is higher in unpatched elden ring

[@goreobsessed2308]

@@nebulous9280 get your buddies to dupe you some you can hold 999

[@thondush]

Rare footage of a moonveil user using an attack that it's not the Weapon Art

[@AriShinato]

I wouldn’t even mind the damage if the startup weren’t so quick

[@aristateles1549]

> AFK > Healing Chase: "It seems like he makes this like a boss fight. Very fun fight tho."

[@keithpas2222]

As soon as I saw the title, I was like “Oh nooooo”

[@freedoggos6036]

This is a ridiculously op weapon in your hands lol excited to see how u use it

[@applepie9234]

you should've used the prattling prate which says 'i'm sorry'

[@YuengsNwings]

The AOW should do 400-500 damage like the Wing of Astel R2. Even with a 60% damage reduction it would STILL be viable because the attacks come out absurdly quick, with 2 options, huge range or sweep. Or it should cost 50+ FP.

[@sorato6804]

Brick hammer with prayerful strike on one with flame of the redmanes or any other fire one on the other makes for a good combo. I’ve also paired the brick hammer with the rotten battle hammer and given it bleed to counter some people with rivers of blood or moonveil they tend to keep their distance when they see the buildups

[@xanastra8820]

Please showcase Rivers of blood. A really underappreciated weapon for arcane builds that almost nobody uses. One other thing is dual naginatas with either seppuku or bloodhound step, preferably both. /s

[@Apemopo]

hell yeah I used the Vergil Sword during my first playthrough. it was awesome pls do a flail showcase, those things are hilarious

[@FlyIndigoAstronaut]

I found this video very cathartic: the juxtaposition between a normal Chase showcase, where his technique and expertise are obviously playing a role in how well the weapon does, and this one, in which he barely had to try, really makes palpable how unbalanced certain elements of the game are, and helped vindicate the feeling of frustration I experience when I encounter Moonveils in duels. But I also love that Chase made that remark about the interchangeability of AoWs and how their interchangeability makes fights so interesting - it was a good reminder that, even with certain issues like Moonveil, the game has a lot of potential that may yet be developed.

[@BBBerti]

People forget that regular unsheath is just as strong on a Nagakiba, moonveil does have a nice range advantage tho

[@Tethra043]

You really should have brought along the "Apologies" prattling pate... Especially for the Washing Pole man.

[@EnterpriseFilms7]

Never seen this weapon before. Looks unique!

[@ريّان-ذ4ت]

I’m surprised not many people use carian retaliation on the moonveil weapon art it’s so easy to pull off

[@EarCat]

Chase i would love to see a power stance showcase video with the Uchigatana and Wakizashi

[@Reybackk]

You can use the Fire's Deadly Sin incantation and the Erdtree Greatshield ashes of war to make a lasergun which is a weapon i guess...

[@Eguzky]

'Good block! Not a dodge at all!' Naw, she just quickly dodged behind her shield!

[@BlankPicketSign]

My first character was a Dex Samurai, when I found the Wakizashi I paired it with my Uchigatana. But then I found Moonveil in a cave, and I INSTANTLY respected for Intelligence, then complimented it with a Blood Wakizashi. This was during my blind playthrough, I followed no guides, took no advice, I simply read the stats, felt the Ash of War, and knew I found something that would carry me to the ends of the earth. I love Moonveil and you'll have to pry it out of my cold, hollowed fingers because I earned it; It's my build I made for myself, "meta" be damned.

[@magnificify]

Didn't think this day would come...

[@deeptroit_5692]

Ghiza‘s Wheel, a pretty fun and unique weapon

[@therandomartist3201]

In order to gain something of value, something of equal or greater value must be lost, this is the law known as Equivalent exchange. In trade for high damage from moonveil, you must become the very thing you swear to destroy.

[@jedidoesjiujitsu3177]

F in chat

[@Mischievous_Moth]

I had to wean myself off of moonveil when I realized I was using it as a crutch. Your videos have been really helpful in my own experimentation.

[@oibraizolebulla]

If I ever run into Chase out in the wild I'm getting ready for a 'fun fight' lol...

[@cyber3165]

I‘d love to see a claw like weapon showcase :D

[@bassmasta9117]

Hey Chase would you check out the Rosus' Axe? The ash of war are 3 ghost skeletons that slash their swords inward. I haven't seen any videos about it yet!

[@heyhoojoe]

I don't think I've ever hit anything with that AoW IN PVE!!! It's so bad, it's almost funny. If anyone can make it work, though, it's Chase.

[@coreymegran6332]

Can you do a video detailing how to use twinblades with a STR or FTH build? I’m trying to make it work for my paladin, and would love your help!

[@brennonaflinglas1460]

I'd love to see Lordsworn's SS with Braggart's Roar. One of my favorite AoWs, and its crit rating is tasty. You might be able to pair it with a buckler or med shield with storm wall for the parries. :D

[@RanOutOfSpac]

I have no idea what they were thinking with this weapon. Speed, range and ungodly damage and a little bit of bleed just as an extra fuck you.

[@NeedsContent]

Game journalists: Elden Ring needs an easy mode! Moonveil Katana *exists: Am I joke to you?

[@danielmontilla1197]

Hey Chase, would you consider a swordspells showcase? I know maybe sorceries are not your thing and also, well, not weapons per se... but you know, they're fun and unique and very powerful. Thanks for all your work, man.

[@colenpr]

Those reverse backsteps are sooo clean I don't get it i try and try and never mimic how smooth chase does em

[@sirgideonofnirtheall-knowi1881]

That godskin guy makes me wonder, would physick healing be acceptable in duel etiquette? The original "no heals" treaty came from the fact that in a 1v1 the host has an advantage in estus number, but everyone only gets one physick flask. Further, you're giving up some very potent buffs for a bit of staying power, which seems like a reasonable trade off for to be allowed. But I know people look down on using heal spells too, even with how punishable they are, so I don't know how this would be received.

[@theloyalwraiths8827]

I'm personally down, as the heal can be punished and buffs generally happen pre-duel meaning only cancer players punish them. I ran it for a bit but a lot of people would start using flask after so I switched to the regen when love tear. That being said I also don't mind healing incants in PvP. I only mind crimsom flasks because they are inherently unfair.

[@jordanf00]

Should have put "Extreme Repentance" on your slots for this showcase.

[@stevenrs11]

The most wholesome of all invaders

[@Lact0seFree]

Have you done the Naginata yet? I thought I saw you do one, but I dont see it on the list :)

[@normanlabow7482]

Is nobody gonna mention the fact that Chase just fought our boy Jetstream Sam?

[@michaelbowman6684]

Making a comment on a two year old video to say this man (10:00) did _not_ use a healing flask, he used the much slower Physick with a Crimson Crystal Tear put in it (the one that restores 50% of your life when drank), you can argue whether or not the Crimson Crystal Tear is toxic but I'm of the opinion that if you give your opponent the opportunity to drink a Physick in the middle of a duel, even one that _doesn't_ have any healing in it, then you aren't putting enough pressure on your opponent and are playing much too passively, that would be like getting mad at someone for using a healing spell because you let them walk 30 feet away from you and were subsequently too far away to punish them for it. Simply put, Chase let the man get way too much distance for free, which made what should have been a punishable heal a free healing opportunity. Healing in duels should only be frowned upon when their is an inherent imbalance of power, like Hosts having twice as many healing flasks as Phantoms, which is not the case for the Physick because both players have 1 each, and can choose to build it however they please. I don't see anyone complaining about the Crimson Bubble Tear in duels, despite the fact that it is just a less effective Crimson Crystal Tear that is safer and more reliable because you can drink in advance of taking damage.

[@Nymerian_]

next time is the rivers of blood for sure

[@may20th2000]

Wheel of Ghiza next???:) need me some ChaseBorne vibes

[@SH0ZAN]

I know it's op but i'm glad you showcased it regardless because i never used it and wondering if it's fun on a didicated melee intelligence build to use, cause everybody is using it and it seems like it's ok not really too interesting, but just has too much damage for it's speed.

[@knosje]

Wow nice to see the Moonveil in action in pvp for once

[@ryanschmidt3319]

Anyone else getting the Murky Hand Scythe DS3 Weapon Showcase flashbacks? Just me?

[@hahamadeyouread214]

Ohhh, thought I was watching a rifle that its bullets are faster than infinite

[@chardhrosreaper2307]

Has there been a good breakdown of the heavy Ash of War damage with or without the frequent headstrike it seems to get?

[@himdailungpamei983]

5:50 what does chase say here ? Moon veil buff ?

[@kaztheunbreakable]

Chase just bowed to someone who healed during a duel. That’s it for me, going back to Scott and Peeve. I can’t take this anymore

[@Bojo29]

Chase doesn’t care because he’s good enough to beat them even with them using all their heals, Chase is a shining beacon of hope in the toxic pvp community 🙌

[@kaztheunbreakable]

@@Bojo29 You're so right! Lol I think i've seen this man die less than ten times and i've been watching since ds3

[@a_sad_cinnamon_roll1594]

Do you have a multiplayer pool to increase our chances of getting into a match with you?

[@chasegaetze4507]

I mean the thing like moonveil, rivers of blood, ruins greats word. You can put your stats and split them but with ashes of war doing so much dmg there's literally no point. Just dump it all into arc int and just spam the ashes of war due to the low cost of ashes of war.

[@Trillmatics]

I wish the Marias executioner sword has just a little more range. The ash of war is a great counter to ash spam but it’s regular attack range is horrible.

[@theloyalwraiths8827]

I just think all greatswords should have claymore thrust. Given their normal moveset is hot garbage. A better light attack on all of them would be nice too.

[@ryxtan]

I would love an INT equivalent to the Coded Sword so I could use something besides Moonveil on my build...

[@jayswizzle57]

You can turn any basic weapon into an int scaling weapon. Also dual wing of astel or darkmoon great swords are pretty decent.

[@ryxtan]

@@jayswizzle57 Yeah, but it would be nice if you could avoid ANY physical stat investment like with Coded. I'm trying to keep my INT setup clean, so I'm currently chasing after a single Astel

[@MrGamis]

me patiently waiting for a sword of night and flame showcase: 😊

[@Devan...]

Dual Scavenger's Curved Sword with frost or poison AoW

[@jorochimaru]

Dual wield the Venomous Fangs!

[@murraybartsch929]

I am glad you apologized to every poor soul you murdered with that thing. Maidenless behaviour Chase.

[@lieutenantarex1393]

Love how positive you are.

[@endidemneri3418]

I think it's time for rivers of blood...

[@olintobecerra8713]

Staff of the avatar butt slam when O.o

[@Nozthren]

To be fair, new players may not no about the invincibility spawn ins by invaders and treat you like any NPC invader... which hasn't gotten that same treatment. A lot of fun just setting up my Death's Poker flames right where npc invaders are spawning in and watching as they get roasted before I even have to battle them. However facing off against a legit player invader would be a very sad moment if you didn't know they were invincible. Guess that guy found out the hard way.

[@chuckmastacheese]

What was worse, the Murky showcase or this one? I know ROB will be worse.

[@trencehumphries645]

Hey use a glaive or something. Great stars, or anything really. Why would you do this weapon?

[@Atomy111]

Chase you're one of the sweattiest god gamers when it comes to souls xD

[@MrZoichi]

Moonveil - good in any players' hands. AMAZING in skilled players' hands. And that's kind of why it seems unsatisfying to play for me. Once you master the weapon, it doesn't force you into a new play style or make gameplay trade-offs. It's just a great, overturned weapon.

[@Mound_Maker]

You were the chosen one! -tObi Juan

[@santinawalker5411]

Maybe try a whip. The one from patches is pretty decent.

[@Thesuddenbutinevitable]

Only chase can use this thing, respectfully.

[@mes0gots0its]

This weapon is beyond disgusting, especially in the hands of someone skilled like Chase

[@mcbarre7226]

you should rate the cross naginata next

[@Ricos28]

Please try to use the Godslayer's Greatsword and make use of its weapon art it has 2 swings which can be devastating.

[@delacriox9263]

glad chase is using such an underused weapon , hoping more people to use it

[@vahnn0]

Next video: bare fists showcase

[@abrahammoua4748]

Rivers of blood next. It's such an unused and heavily underrated weapon. 😩

[@khush1773]

Such a balanced weapon, fromsoft really outdid themselves with this one

[@andrewwhitmore8756]

Absolutely 🤣

[@weirdo4392]

on god bro fr fr

[@OhFrittata]

I love sarcasm lol

[@ts6603]

@@khush1773 for pve its one of the only passable weapons left in new game 7++++ the rest is just a huge joke damagewise and i dont know why but i cant even break any bosses poise anymore since new game 5+. i think this is a bug. but i agree they should nerf bleed for pvp but not pve

[@Shane_A_M]

There’s no going back Chase, you’ve already committed a cardinal sin. You must use Rivers of Blood now.

[@Sir_Danks-A-Lot]

Cant next episode though because of the somber to normal alteration

[@dramalexi]

And the fingerprint shield.

[@Bubba524dtm]

* palpatine's voice Do it!

[@Shuby321]

Problem is he already has. And slayed with it before it got the buff lol

[@Drew-im7is]

I think it was his first weapon he showed!

[@Dile0303]

Notice how in every invasion and weapon showcase he always finishes with "fun fight". But, on this one, he finishes with "i'm so sorry" and "I feel terrible"

[@coreymegran6332]

Came here to say the same thing. Proves the man has a soul.

[@darkofdespair]

Oh god that poor guy who took 1100 damage to the face just straight up realized the futility of life!

[@urthpainter]

think Chase got at least two helpless emotes, see the writing on the wall pretty quick!

[@ryanjones_rheios]

I adore that Chase even seems a bit pained when he wins with the Moonveil. Like, he's proven there are ways to outplay the Moonveil but its such a good weapon you can tell he feels a bit like he's bullying - or at least absent of his preferred originality - and its paining him.

[@nralbers]

In the hands of a skilled PvP player it is a bit like clubbing seals, so I get the apologies when he utterly wrecks a player in a single attack.

[@alexandervowles3518]

@@nralbers seals bite pretty hard.

[@-JustinCombs]

Swing hard

[@redchylde]

4:42 "Oh he does get stunned by light attacks" Then proceeds to instantly wreck him with newfound knowledge.

[@MajorCrasher]

I'd love to see a showcase for the wheel of Ghiza at some point, mainly just to see if it's viable for pvp at all.

[@ravi-oli]

imo they should add more poise to when you are using the ash of war. The windup has high poise but when its spinning any attack will cancel it

[@MajorCrasher]

@@ravi-oli yeah that's the main reason I didn't stick with using it on my collosal weapon build.

[@Spagetoli]

tbh chase makes every weapon look viable lol

[@MajorCrasher]

@@Spagetoli that's fair lol

[@Ohmagawdjr]

I doubt even he could make it work. That weapon just sucks. Colossals have an awful move set, and with the exception of the Fallingstar Beast Jaw they all have awful AoW.

[@thekaz5225]

You know the weapon is OP when as soon as the match ends Chase apologized to his opponent.

[@thomaskriegeer-hinck1778]

Usually Chase sounds so happy, today he sounds ever so slightly less cheery… Poor guy

[@insane992]

how you can tell he has more fun fighting people than just deleting them in 2 seconds

[@Sebur8an]

He knows it's unfair weapon and the duelers are "not quite" at the skill level what Chase is presenting. Either he's a wholesome guy or he's sad because his test subjects died too early.

[@beefzerkee]

@@Sebur8an a bit of both. Chase is a genuinely nice dude

[@mariomendoza596]

"I feel terrible". I felt that having moonveil in my set of weapons. That weapon hits so hard.

[@duysin4]

Lmao, I feel dirty watching this. Moonveil on an elite PVPer.. I love that one guy who just admitted defeat after eating the heavy ash of war.

[@tchanthaphaeng]

So happy you finally showcased this highly underrated weapon that barely anyone has ever used. 👍

[@Reiner782]

He should use another underrated weapon that VIRTUALY NO ONE HAS EVER USED called Rivers of Blood...preety fun weapon

[@LeHarmacist]

Still waiting for an idiot to get whooshed

[@clockworkcadaver]

I’ve genuinely never seen more than 1 r1 at a time from this weapon and I think that’s because the user accidentally wasn’t pressing whatever their weapon art key is bound to

[@harshitkumar9917]

The godskin king was a good idea, unfortunately he came on the wrong weapon showcase

[@brothergrok]

i leave the duel if someone uses a healing flask. every time. makes for a boring fight and less skilled fight.

[@BlueShellshock]

See, this is why I don't like hearing "l2p" in response to Rivers or Moonveil complaints. "Just parry" works against a *bad* player, and they still have a chance to maul you if you miss. Against an expert, or even just someone who understands roll catching and mixups, they just become terrifying. Parrying only works against blind players who can't see a shield, and I can't expect everyone to be that dumb!

[@arthurmorganlefaye7626]

Skill issue

[@trustiestsugar7745]

One of my favorite parry's is with the dagger cause no one expects it

[@wbhandy]

Try a decent shield with Scholar's Shield buff. Pretty sure it will block moonveil no problem, and it doesn't require any skill. I've been trying to test it but moonveils are actually pretty rare in RL125 duels these days.

[@google4585]

This is true for Moonveil since its speed, range and damage are way overtuned. In the hands of an experienced player like Chase, this weapon becomes a destroyer of hosts. Because it's so fast the best a high level player can do is read their opponent and anticipate Transient Moonlight and dodge it or parry it. However, RoB is mostly a noob stomper. A bad player will attempt to trade with Corpse Piler, but their attempt will be short-lived. In the hands of an experienced player, RoB doesn't gain as much power as the Moonveil. Unlike Transient Moonlight, Corpse Piler has a decent amount of startup frames which allow focused/experienced players to dodge or parry it with ease. At best, it becomes a mix-up to catch your opponent off-guard - not any different from a dozen other skills.

[@tylerjacobson8012]

The moonveil is still the best pvp weapon in the game imo. In the hands of a good player they can use that ash of war to its maximum potential and basically have a delete button of a sword. The move-set is great to. Rivers of Blood is great too but that ash of war is easier to evade. It’s the “noob” weapon if their was one.

[@caret_shell]

It doesn't get more Canadian than this! Competent, humble, and an apology with every crushing victory 😃

[@maxwellchute6114]

This really hits home how busted the Moonveil aow is. Feels bad using any other weapon on an int build, because why would you?

[@selimcelik3494]

I liked using my Dark Moon a lot with my int build.

[@kennaee]

Because it feels the same as backstabbing little babies? If the bad feeling you get from killing someone with moonveil is something you enjoy then go for it. Many of us can't ruin our game like that lol

[@brothergrok]

my prisoner used moonveil while leveling up, then at 125/150 i discovered the joy of wing of astel and bastard's stars... UNF

[@maxwellchute6114]

@@brothergrok Man, I wish flails did more damage. Bastard's Stars is a very cool weapon!

[@laughingboy9378]

Chase’s dejected, “*sigh*…Moonveil…” after every fight, sums it up perfectly

[@FOES-YT]

One of the most overused weapons in the game - sadly this weapon is seen as toxic just with how often people use it

[@Chevalier_knight]

I see more nightrider helberds

[@ts6603]

its just really useful in pve for all the annoying enemies who are constantly flying and jumping away from you when you try to hit them. the damage is really lack luster vs rivers tbh and i think the poise break on moonveil is broken rn. it doesnt break at all some times (and yes i hit with the blade and not only the spell)

[@karimhegazy3866]

@@ts6603 the poise damage was nerfed a few patches ago

[@archerwannabe]

...just? Really now?

[@khimaros]

@@ts6603 I haven’t used RoB, but the damage on Moonveil is plenty fast enough. And the lack of poise damage doesn’t even matter. I went pure int dual wielding it with various other kitanas for my second play through and just walked through everything, it’s disgustingly good.

[@FarmerSlayerFromTheEdoPeriod]

You were supposed to destroy the moonveils, not use them!

[@Kinnikinnick]

He destroyed 1000 moonveils to showcase it himself. Fair deal I'd say.