Chasing 'awakening' is part of dreamland... without it, wellbeing naturally reveals itself (Part 2)

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@rationalmystic5 2 ай бұрын

Rahmat.....you will be fine. Even after losing all interests something will call out energetically. Lots of love . Thank you Suzanne

@justinm987 2 ай бұрын

I love the quiet space here. Thank you

@suzanne-chang 2 ай бұрын

Thank you so much Justin! ♡

@ListeningEars555 2 ай бұрын

Rahmat, That’s 💯 my son! I am perfectly ok with my son and that bothers him even more because he expects I expect something from him 😂 . I keep telling him it’s all fine ❤❤

@XffTheGrid411 2 ай бұрын

He probably thinks you're being sarcastic. 😂

@Apparentemptiness 2 ай бұрын

This is beautiful and so strange to me I love it

@sarahjabbour9648 2 ай бұрын

I don’t judge my cat when it wants to stretch. 😂😂😂😂. Perfect!!!❤🙏🙏🙏🥰🥰😊

@profie24 2 ай бұрын

"The discomfort doesn't need to go away either, it's welcomed here."

@elevenman100 Ай бұрын

Watching the throughline of Celina has been one of the great joys of watching these videos.

@celina.hayslett 16 күн бұрын

You’re very kind. I’m glad you’ve found it helpful. ❤

@sanpallasder 2 ай бұрын

I hear you logan, when your speaking its like your speaking for me. ❤ your conversations have given me so much support ❤

@tredwellabrams7228 2 ай бұрын

It’s a blessing to find this so young

@sarahcoudrais5065 2 ай бұрын

Exactly what I was going to say 😂🎉❤

@annek3645 2 ай бұрын

This is for the 21 year old.. It looks like you've awoken from your own ego, but not everyone else's, like a partial dissolve. You are perceiving awareness to awareness in a dream. I was in that place for years and it felt dull, isolating, flat and waiting to die too. These are indicators that separation/the mind is still tricking you. A lot of spiritual teachers on KZbin aren't there yet, so you may have to dissolve that, often last, mental projection on your own. But it's the difference between heaven and hell. See people as they are, not the mental space they are in (it's not real anyways). Awareness to awareness. Awareness to awareness. Awareness to awareness. Get rid of this 'idea' that there is a dream that separates you. See what is real, EVERYONE is that. Love, fullness, and gratitude will fill you, it's very different. You will feel connected, not disconnected.

@elektrotehnik94 2 ай бұрын

This seems about right ❤

@aleksdeabreu 2 ай бұрын

Rudolf Steiner speaks on ‘the life between death and a new birth’, which can indeed be a multi-factorial explanation of the concepts we experience when transitioning from one phase of existence to the next. I feel there is a ton still to be revealed-but we can’t control how it ends. We can simply focus on our actions and how we respond. Strong work, my friend:)

@alfreddifeo9642 Ай бұрын

Thanks to all for sharing♾☮❤

@darrenyoung4509 2 ай бұрын

The only difference between this and doing nothing is KNOWING you're doing nothing. :) ❤

@ak1hiro469 2 күн бұрын

It's so tiring to be pushed by others all the time, trying to get you to catch up with something you can't even see

@willcollins5660 2 ай бұрын

5:10 Hey Rahmat, I do hope you read this and soon have your own youtube channel because the things you say do have heavy shades of Buddhism, nihilism, Taoism, absurdnism and any other philosophy i have not mentioned. Suzanne is right, you are a little Buddha. Looking forward to your future channel.

@Bexatronica1 2 ай бұрын

Beautiful! 🙏❤

@noorchambille5136 2 ай бұрын

rahmat wauw you are great wunderfull lots of love from amsterdam

@jj4cpw 2 ай бұрын

Yes, it’s gorgeous, beautiful that this confused 21 year old is so empty and filled with no motivation.

@spintillimdizzy2340 2 ай бұрын

It’s okay if people don’t want to have motivation. I’m highly motivated but even I can recognize that it’s all pre programmed and ultimately meaningless. The body and mind want attention and to reach milestones and goals but it is most definitely not needed. You’re projecting your own fears and insecurities onto this kid and it’s okay but I would reflect on why you even feel that way to begin with.

@Deep_Woodz 2 ай бұрын

it seems like it all just spontaniously unfolds even though nothing unfolds.

@TheMLMGold 2 ай бұрын

I relate to Celina's share about immoveable trust whatever happens. It's something I find the more I can express buried anger which was previously repressed, like I'm done with the doubt and default negative self beliefs, angry with it even, and I don't have to live in that prison of doubt anymore because I'm no longer scared of it. Anger can be positively channelled in this way on the path to God.

@vincentfn 2 ай бұрын

Much love ❤️

@WhoareU_____ 2 ай бұрын

It feels as though “awakening” is the same as a.i. becoming sentient or aware of itSELF.

@CJ0101 2 ай бұрын

Why's that?

@WhoareU_____ 2 ай бұрын

@@CJ0101 it feels like there’s a program or podcast constantly running and once it’s seen through it becomes obvious that it’s just an artificial program running. Of course this is only a meaningless description .

@WhoareU_____ 2 ай бұрын

@@daotheeternalnamelessbeyon8778 lol “they” are part of the a.i. experience of course they have to say that. Upon awakening all experience sense of “other” will fall away.

@WhoareU_____ 2 ай бұрын

@@daotheeternalnamelessbeyon8778 if there is an artificial identity structure known or labeled as as the “ego” this is seen through upon awakening

@CJ0101 2 ай бұрын

@@WhoareU_____ How is that like A.I?

@eimanm4676 2 ай бұрын

There are terms used by psychiatrist to describe this state of being and they classify it as a personality disorder a schizotype personality but as research now is in readily intersted in the autism spectrum the shcizotype and autism are no longer treared as lack of something or differenct to something it's just a way to be a human no more no less.

@TheMLMGold 2 ай бұрын

Not wanting to take up space or to be nothing is fear of expression which comes from repression. Lots of non dual bypassing here

@laracrespo5786 2 ай бұрын

Awakening and pathology may look very similar at times.Caution.

@madelaki 2 ай бұрын

Who says they necessarily have to be different things?

@laracrespo5786 2 ай бұрын

@@madelaki I and any expert on psychology and human consciousness. There have been too many accidents because of that misunderstanding.

@madelaki 2 ай бұрын

@@laracrespo5786 Well, I say they're not necessarily different things. Who gets to be right? Do we need to fight with knives?

@sir.willthur5428 2 ай бұрын

Been here, done this before. Good luck kids. Be happy Just don’t end up like Jim Jones 😊

@SinergiasHolisticas 2 ай бұрын

With Love from "Sinergias Holisticas"

@keithganzmusic 2 ай бұрын

Hmmm, i feel moved to say the emptiness of empty nature is not the only thing going on. It feels like there is some idealizing of emptiness or clinging to or striving for an idea of emptiness going on here. And young people, life is long, there is so much more to come, you can be absolutely certain that you are in the clear perfect place every second for an entire year and then bam something else arises and you discover that what you thought was the end was just one chapter of a thousand chapters. Always being, always becoming...any "idea" of emptiness and what it is like is an idea. Life moves, you never know what's coming next. Don't make an image of emptiness a goal to seek and a way to hide from anything. Losing interest in everything may be part of a process but it's not something to claim like a trophy. There's so much more to see...stay open and good luck 🙏

@indef93 2 ай бұрын

This character has found that trying new things because "why not?" is inevitable and important after the big death. The radical honesty and spontaneity will eventually lead to new discoveries. When OKness with a mundane life is here, so are infinite possibilities with spontaneous movements. Something as simple as saying "hi" to a stranger or smiling is seen to occasionally have a butterfly effect. Nothing to be hoped or wished for, but continuous unfolding through whatever the moment offers. No opportunity lost. Overall, I wanted to say, even "effort" beyond the comfort of OKness is seen to not be effort at all. Life is extra interesting and enjoyable when we come into contact with friction and see that they are just waves to surf on. The best spring water faces the most turbulence. 🎉❤

@EnlightenedCarnivore 2 ай бұрын

"Waves to surf on"...I love what you're saying here. I'm still loving this existence that those who used to know me would call "doing nothing". Lol! If they only knew. But recently I've noticed that I seem to be, I don't know, maybe experimenting more or...almost purposefully engaging more or... Never mind. Life is forkin awesome in whatever way it unfolds...OKness or why-the-fork-not ness. ✌😆

@indef93 2 ай бұрын

@@EnlightenedCarnivore Yeah, it is awesome. Just hard to take a nuanced and authentic position when I admittedly feel stretched between total dispassion and total compassion. There is always more fixation. Discussions like these always uncover more clues about my own. Thank you. 🙏❤️

@EnlightenedCarnivore 2 ай бұрын

Who knows why but, somehow, while tuning in to these videos, I get to wondering about the diets of everyone who participates. I wonder if anyone knows yet what a proper human diet looks like. If anyone here knows that humans have a very specific diet, just like every other animal on the planet. Only most humans don't know what theirs is. And then we feed domesticated animals the wrong food also. And diet very much affects the Awakened or Liberated human every bit as much as it affects those all tangled up in conditioned-minded thinking. Perhaps a little less so because of conscious awareness, the stress side of things might be reduced,...but eating food that we have not evolved to eat will do damage to the mind & body. Like fiber, plant toxins, seed oils and carbohydrates. Just sayin'. ✌😊

@manifestbigmuscles 2 ай бұрын

Carno for ketosis:)

@indef93 2 ай бұрын

I don't agree nor disagree. All I can say is: after seeing through the illusion of Self, this body tends to get what it needs; with all the supposed good and bad. I used to intellectualize everything and seeked optimization. Diet was a big seeking energy. Nowadays, sugar seems to be wonderful, for example. Nothing habitual. You use what you need. We all die(t) in the end anyway, lol. 😂❤

@EnlightenedCarnivore 2 ай бұрын

Well,@@indef93...Thank you for even responding. For not dismissing this altogether. ✌💖 But now I'm curious...if you have or ever had any issues. Like cavities, for instance...anxiety, depression, weight (fat) gain or loss. Diabetes, cancer, heart disease. Any health issues at all. If so, what you eat caused it. Because here's the thing; even after seeing through the illusion of self...I won't hack off my own arm, for example, just to prove that my body is just one with everything. I'm being silly, but I think you know what I mean. Here's what I've learned. There are no "diets". Every animal, plant, insect...all the manifestations of THIS just naturally nourish themselves. Except humans. We're all confused, for some reason (and I know the reason) about what food is. I'm no longer confused. That's all I'm saying. And, as you well know, life does not end after enlightenment...we're simply free of the false sense of self. Sorry for rambling on. 😏I'm only passionate about two things, THIS, and optimal, or let's just call it 'natural', health. Peace.

@indef93 2 ай бұрын

@@EnlightenedCarnivore Who's confused? I don't mean to non-dual-bypass the relative health issues we seem to collectively be facing. I literally don't believe diet to be nearly as important to overall health as I used to make it out to be. It was fundamental suffering aka psychological stress that created many problems for this body. Having experimented with nearly every single diet (even primal and raw carnivore diets, haha) for over 15 years - it's a full on, hard STOP for me. Every "optimal" is an endgoal to seek, to adhere to and inevitably can't be optimal as our mind knows not what the body needs. It can think to know basic interpretations of the body's signals and what seems to be needed to maintain function. Let me just say it again - diet is one of the biggest seeking traps. If you enjoy the seeking - do it! I had moments of enjoyment and happiness when seeing a nice physique poke through. Boy, did that ricochet right back at my dysregulated nervous system that had gotten that way by the very seeking-mechanism sparked by the suffering, struggle and lack of self acceptance. From here on, I still go on runs, a lot of walks and enjoy fresh produce intuitively. But there is not a second guess about what's going down the gullet. It's like all the topics on awakening and morality - it's largely a non-issue if we keep inquiring and looking clearly. There is no "supposed to" and no "optimal". Unless you are looking to play one of many games. Confusion is always thinking-based and that is always mind-identification. What do you desire and why?

@EnlightenedCarnivore 2 ай бұрын

OK,@@indef93,I think I understand. It sounds like you think I'm into health and fitness. I'm not. When I say "optimal health", I mean that birds, plants, insects, and squirrels don't "diet". Neither do I. I have learned that humans are carnivores, so I no longer eat plants. It's as simple as that. And all those who have done this, and have contributed to my having learned this, are now effortlessly healthy. And get this, this might sound way out of left field, I hope I can explain; Cognitive Behavioral Therapy and Awakening and the elimination of carbohydrates all happened within around two years. The 14 months of CBT was all about learning to replace automatic negative thoughts with less problematic ones. Awakening was all about discovering the false sense of self, stop feeding it, and to discover the true essence of no self. And by eliminating carbohydrates, thus allowing the body to fuel the brain and repair the brain with ketones (as is natural for our species) the neurosis just naturally dissolves. And here's the weird part; Many people who go back to this natural way of eating also seem to reach this natural state of consciousness. 😯I don't even call this enlightenment anymore. Or no self. Liberation is good, because it is kind of a liberation from the neurotic mind. Do you see what I mean? Why are all other manifestations just naturally in their Natural State of Consciousness? Because they don't unnaturally poison themselves. Enlightenment is not special, it should be just natural. Lol. Indef, I never talk this much. Maybe I'm rambling. I just want to point out that, back when I was a person, I was never a health enthusiast and I'm not that way now. I just made a miraculous discovery. The realization that, like so many other things, human beings are wrong if they believe we are omnivores. We are not. That's why we're sick and, perhaps, that's why we need to go on a so-called spiritual path. Oh, man, life is strange. ✌😆

@Mountainshark 2 ай бұрын

What is non duality????

@manifestbigmuscles 2 ай бұрын

1) We only have the present moment. 2) The head is dated and heavy. 3) Everything is connected. For every in, there is an out:)

@RedRabbleRouser Ай бұрын

The total collapse of Subject/object dualism in one’s direct experiential perception.

@Mountainshark Ай бұрын

@@RedRabbleRouser I don't know what that means?

@RedRabbleRouser Ай бұрын

@@Mountainshark you experience life as a seperate person. Everything inside your skin is “you” and everything outside your skin is “not you”. This is subject (inside) and object (outside). It feels like two distinct things. Non-dualism is when that inside-outside feeling melts away and there is no more inside vs. outside: instead it’s just everything. Everything is both inside and outside of you at the same time.

@teppo139 2 ай бұрын

There is only one way to see nature of reality, theurgy, apophasism, neti neti via negativa. Anyone who tells something else, is false. Be still and know your a God. The One, The Good.

@EmptySeeing 2 ай бұрын

Hi Suzanne, Liberation or whatever you want to call this non-event, has nothing to do with the character or itś story whatsoever. Many so called non duality speakers tend to generalize their own story. Liberation has no common features except maybe for the emptiness. Stating, like you did, that "after" liberation one would loose interest in the body is an expression of a personal experience. For this character liberation coincided with severe illness. Taking care of a sick body is a natural response like a mother taking care of a sick child or a lioness looking looking after her cubs. The initial shock "after" liberation is a totally individual experience. It took me years to be able to "relate" to everyday life again.

@EnlightenedCarnivore 2 ай бұрын

Please don't ask me why, (I'm not generally comfortable with trying to explain this unless someone asks me to) but if you have never heard of The Carnivore Diet or Ketogenic Diet (not to be confused with today's "Keto" diet), you might want to do some research here on KZbin. Dr. Anthony Chaffee could be a good place to start. I don't know what your severe illness was or is but there is some miraculous stuff going on with people who simply cut carbohydrates out of their daily diet. ✌💖

@EmptySeeing 2 ай бұрын

@@EnlightenedCarnivore How kind of you. Yes I did hear about it but is feels counter intuitive/bodily response. After studying westonprice I did raise my meat consumption but don't feel like going full carnivore. I do feel better though eating more meat. Thanx a lot for caring.

@lucasheijdeman2581 2 ай бұрын

I agree! Different characters can have different reactions to the revelation. For example when someone is very depressed and finds out the reaction can be one of joy now that the story has been seen through and interest to participate fully in the drama follows. But for another who was really invested in his or her life and the character a nihilistic tendency can arise. No reaction is intrinsic to the revelation itself from my own experience and those of others.

@RedRabbleRouser Ай бұрын

It’s just a confused and impressionable kid doing his best Suzanne impression, there is no real insight here. He’s confusing his adolescent struggle for an identity w non-dual awakening. It’s irresponsible to act otherwise.

@Apparentemptiness 6 күн бұрын

This is spooky I love it