Chatterbox Tells Valkyrae's Chat to Chill Down A Little Bit

[@SaRel.]

I'm in Rae's chat frequently, but even I can see and admit that some of the chatters are fucking crazy. They don't listen to anything Rae says while trying to calm them down and restrict them, they take advantage of that she cares too much, and they're straight up menaces to share a chat with. I can see why a lot of outsiders claim that we're crazy in good and horrible ways. It's unenjoyable to watch your streamer spend her time constantly having to berate them for acting the way they do, and I truely do wish that there was a better way to reprimand these types of chatters on yt.

[@yololoyo7379]

Yeah they don't listen. I still remember Lord Kebun and Fanfan said they got a lot of hate comments from Rae's stans on Twitter and Reddit. Those people treat rp as real life, losing the touch of reality and fantasy

[@Natsuky66]

100% agree, it became soo unenjoyable to watch her after a while bc I'm very anxious and sensitive about confrontations and fights, and in my down time all vulnerable she is playing, everything is chill and boom! A huge rant and fight with chat out of nowhere and I feel soooo uncomfortable and anxious and can't enjoy the stream anymore. And that had been happening almost everyyy stream I watched. So now I stopped watching her and I'm with chatty and twinkles :( sad that happens

[@WigglerzZ]

%100, I've been a fan of rae for years and decided to finally be a part of the chatters officially joining sun rae. but I got so dissapointed for what happened recently from her previous live, I just knew how the vibe changed and saw a TON of chatters displaying their opinion on her RP and how they are directing her on what she should do. It's such a let-down because the RP had to be paused just because she has to explain to the stupid birds why she's doing what she's doing when it was supposed to be a fun RP and it just turned out to be a classroom. It's so frustrating, most of it are dumb opinions like they don't know what's happening. It just takes one person to say "stop it chat" for sun rae's and the mods fix the issue and spread the words to brain dead chatters, and honestly if we can't avoid the situation, we have to gather the courage to at least stop those chatters that starts these. I had to repeatedly type in "stop chat" to be acknowledged because of how much people are js agreeing to these chatters lol.

[@Croutonicknight]

I had to start turning off chat when I watch Rae's GTA rp streams it is way too much of everything people just don't care about being backseaters and are some of the biggest W chasers to the where they chat hop, spread misinformation, and literally ask streamers directly to solve their problems with rp. By far the biggest pet peeve is that they are just so loud and don't care that they will just spam when Rae goes live in other people's chats like they are side characters irl, it's insanely disrespectful.

[@Synndac]

i honestly can only imagine i dont really watch her chat that much but back in 3.0 i use to watch cg ramee/lord keubun thier chats are so toxic people way to invested so weird how some people act feel bad for rae she just wants to have fun..

[@linadams1965]

Unfortunately Rae’s chat has always been this way. They’re a big reason why she stopped 3.0 and will ultimately be the reason she stops now because they just never stop.

[@brandontrammel4581]

Sadly agreed

[@whoami.24601]

I think this is the nature of really big chats to some degree, to be honest. I was watching Mr K randomly a bit ago and he was in the middle of some RP and his chat kept spamming "remember to call Ray Romanov", "call Ray" "hey you didn't call Ray". over and over for ages. With big chats it just becomes overwhelming like that, because people backseat everywhere. And tbh, I've been watching both Rae and Chatterbox streams lately, and even Chatterbox' chat is really hard on Rae sometimes and gets vocal about what they think is right or wrong for Chatterbox the character,. But a major difference is that his chat is much smaller so it's not as overwhelming.

[@drakefitz7189]

i love chattercups, but i love my streamer enjoying themselves and their RP more, calm down chatters

[@dagmarland]

I love it when these characters make mistakes and give in to their wilder impulses. It's why I enjoy watching the clowns I watch CRIMINALS do fake crime. Crims wouldn't be crims if they always had good judgement..

[@Mykayla-sg6ov]

I felt so bad for Rae too she tries so hard

[@alwaysthelovesongs]

wish we could get her to play this clip on stream so the people that really need to hear it will.

[@Shunbound]

I was watching Carmella and September talking about liking toxic relationships only while they are in the city. I already got the vibe of RP due to personally playing on some servers. But I really felt like that convo really highlighted what is enjoyable about RP for me.

[@Choccoco]

Jaggerbox is completely right. In character, he HAS to play a specific way due to his past and trauma. OOC, he likes the stirring, he likes the risks and mistakes. Jag is such an awesome advocate for supporting other RP streamers. People are so weird about Chattercups ending or having serious conflict. If the RP relationship stays perfect and their characters keep fixing their mistakes, it’s going to end a lot sooner than it could. But if they make major mistakes, it either builds or cracks their relationship. And when it finally ends, it will be so much more impactful.

[@brianalex5083]

Drama RP and Gang/Conflict RP will always be a difficult thing bring out the worst in chats

[@lileekay]

They complain about every little thing she does, but the second she stops playing gta they’ll complain even more. What exactly do you want? Play yourself if you want to dictate every move your streamer makes. Let rp characters make mistakes and be unlikable. Literally watch and enjoy the show

[@_iAmJuanderful_]

It’s crazy to think people will hate watch and comment on these things. Just let the streamers do their thing and watch them. It’s just a game, it’s not real life.

[@001Tdog]

I haven't watched their streams in a while, so Im going to assume that Rae is causing spicy drama in their relationships and chattercups stans are telling her "No,don't ruin the relationship".

[@janetlee9709]

that’s the problem with relationship rp, it’s the reason why benji and ash broke up.

[@Notjess420]

Her character is pretty deep into relationship rp, she talks about how in love they are and marriage. She already has a ton of parasocial viewers, this rp style makes them even more weird, also it's kind of her only rp content atm.

[@panche1287]

@@Notjess420A few streams ago, she said she’s never going to let a perfect, lasting relationship happen and she’s mentioned from the very beginning multiple times that this relationship was supposed to just be an arc. Things change all the time but I’m beginning to worry how some fans will react when they do eventually break up.

[@Tessachannel28]

@@Notjess420 she also said this was supposed be a arc and wont even last this long but is has that the life as a RP not weird

[@Notjess420]

@@panche1287 Yep, relationship rp is fine, but gets weird if it goes on too long. Neither wants to be responsible for initiating the break-up, fans will go nuts if/when it happens and more importantly, the streamers have become friends. She knows Chattercups is a huge reason for Chatterbox's success in 4.0, I doubt it will ever truly end until she quits gta.

[@Choccoco]

I said this in a comment, but people take advantage of Rae’s kindness as a streamer and sht keeps getting out of hand. Every fan base has its toxic viewers but I feel like Rae gives too many chances to people who end up being parasocial, chat hopping, or being weird/disrespectful. Not even a month ago there was discourse about her needing more/stricter mods but she said no it’s fine. I can’t help but look at chat when I watch streams because it’s fun to react and comment. But when I keep seeing L takes , meta, and mean comments, it ruins my immersion.

[@Choccoco]

And then when Rae finally has to pop off on chat, they affect her mood and it throws her in game mood off. Like damn let her play HER character. I’m glad Rae is playing with a good RP streamer like Jaggerbox because he knows and understands what her character is trying to do and wants to encourage those risks.

[@vargasmanuel348]

@@Choccoco Not only does it ruin the mood, but it also almost always locks her out of content because of her chat freaking out.

[@KeeyPie]

This is why i dont watch gta streams anymore i just wait for clips and yt videos.. i felt TOO MUCH INVESTED and i couldnt stop watching clips diff povs and its ruined my sleeping sched people need to learn when to step back!

[@chantelisamills3863]

Everything what chatterbox said is truly good for people who take it to the next level need to have a reality check lol

[@jojoo1702]

I also just never get the chatters that say "she's an unlikable character" or that she's "too toxic". We are literally watching gang leaders shoot up a council or clowns ocean dumping people. IT'S FUCKING GTA. The characters of los santos are supposed to be crazier than what we know in real life. That's what makes it fun to watch. Otherwise I could just go outside and people watch lmao. Literally just let her play the way she wants and we'll get fun content even if her character "fucks up" or "forgets things" or "acts toxic". Like Ray is not supposed to be a representation of what the chatters would do in this situation bro.

[@StarlitSunLight]

A lot of people in Rae’s chat are new + not subscribers. I wish she’d turn on 1 week subscriber mode sometimes when in RP. Then it would filter out a lot of the negativity

[@donaldmashburn1039]

Id say a year, people that have been around that long will have time to have matured a bit to fit chat and even then we'd still have a percent of them that are trolls.

[@trendreact415]

Nah. Length of being a subscriber doesn't help. Remember that some of the people who made her apologize for saying fr fr no cap on a stack are still active in her chat 😂 same people who want to dictate her every action and never satisfied with what she does

[@comfytimes8049]

This always just makes me think, if nopixel was an actual show, the viewers would not have this much power over what happens during the episodes. If they did, that would be the part of the fandom that everyone hates. I’m sorry but the REAL PEOPLE playing the characters deserve respect, the FAKE CHARACTERS need to have flaws in order to be good characters. It’s literally fake criminals doing illegal stuff to make money. If the streamers ROLEPLAYING didn’t make their characters make mistakes and bad decisions, IT WOULD BE BORING. Character development happens like real life, making mistakes and going through tough moments. If we don’t make mistakes, we don’t learn. If we don’t go through tough moments, we don’t know how to overcome them. Ray Mond’s 4.0 story got me so invested in nopixel again. As a long time viewer of nopixel content way before she joined, it’s been extremely entertaining and one of the most interesting characters I’ve seen, and I love that it also happens to be one of my favorite streamers. It wouldn’t be that way if she didn’t make the choices that she did.

[@Tessachannel28]

Rae chat has been like this in 3.0 its very annoying we lose a lot of streamer cause of it the toxic stan need stop and leave her alone it her character not yall if yall dont like watch a different streamer

[@vividravus]

Preach, King! Rae wants viewers to respect other streamer's rp decisions and let them feel comfortable to do their thing, we should be giving her that freedom too. 💜

[@jimhardy665]

Imagine how shitty Sopranos or Mad Men would've been if the actors had to watch real-time reaction from the viewers as they performed the show. One thing I'll never understand (other than it might cut into the money from memberships and the entitlement chat gives viewers) is why ppl like Rae or Fuslie CAN'T turn chat off. Is the fear of ppl not buying memberships? Is it a rule? Twitch chat, for the ppl I watch for GTA, is a 1000x more mature than yt. Apparently, yt chat is 90‰ zoomer, who either just spam their slang or try to be Ray or April's director and exec producer. I tried to state this on Reddit but the srs for the ones I follow are absolute snowflakes or assholes. I've had more intelligent discourse on 4CHAN than Reddit. If someone calls you an fn dumbass on 4c, you know it's a suit post. On Reddit, it's either life & death or their own concept of protecting their waifu/gworl like swifties or beyhive.

[@rubendacostaesilva8442]

"... I tried to state this on Reddit..." - big mistake!

[@DioceseofKalookan-kt4nq]

Both Rae and Leslie have yt contracts. They don't rely on membership especially Rae but based on their explanation, the main purpose of them streaming is connect and talk to their viewers. It is just 1% who are toxic so they don't want the 99% good chatters to suffer. And there is still twitter, yt comments, their reddit that these toxic viewers can post. For example in Among Us where their chat is way more toxic and usually they don't look at it but it still affects them. The best way how they deal with it is to just stop playing the game. They are still variety streamers not rpers. They can also They can also just continue to learn to not care. At the end of the day, the pros still outweighs the cons of streaming for them big streamers as long as they are enjoying majority of the time.

[@SuccinctEarth07]

​@@rubendacostaesilva8442if you are the user I think you are you came across as weird. I think I understand where you were coming from but you overstepped a little bit you have to accept that sometimes people don't want your opinion and you can't force it on to then

[@secondeye1574]

Streamers' whole career is based on feedback from viewers. Now this doesn't mean they wouldn't have a career if they sometimes closed chat, in fact I think they should close chat at certain moments. The problem is it creates a psychological complex where they rely on their chat for assurance, help and validation. So to answer your question it's a mental thing. That also should explain why after a decade of being a streamer they'll still get one-guyd and still act in ways that only make themselves more unhappy.

[@jimhardy665]

​@@SuccinctEarth07most ppl might not want a person's opinion but that shouldn't and won't (according to 1A) keep the person to not state that opinion, as long as it's not threatening or toxic/racist. That's the problem I have w/some fans/followers; if they don't agree or claim the comment is 'weird' (I've had this thrown at me by millennials and zoomers a hundred times and still can't grok what they consider 'weird'; what constitutes 'weird' for these ppl?), they act as gatekeepers, either for the person they're 'defending' or because of the New Rules of Language that's being enforced by various groups who apparently want words, phrases, even opinions changed/erased/blocked b/c THEY find it 'detrimental' to someone the OP doesn't know and shouldn't owe an apology if theyre NOT being deliberately toxic/bigoted. When I was young, esp when 1984 actually rolled around and ppl debated how close we'd come to Orwell's vision then, we thought, between the Moral Majority/Satanic Panic and the influence the CIA/FBI had with Reagan, it was bad. We were in a 'Freedom of Speech' wonderland in 1984 compared to now, with the Right wanting to erase books/history/political philosophy/PPL other than their own ideology and the Left seemingly demanding language and discourse as a whole to be dictated by their personal beliefs. I have no gripe or stance in what's called the 'pronoun game'; one of my closest friends is trans, yet they don't have a problem if I call them by their former name b/c that's the way my subconscious brain works (I call ppl the same name as how I'm introduced to) and my friends know this and accept it, to a point. But to dictate what someone says that's considered weird or problematic b/c it doesn't jive with their personal beliefs, if taken to the extreme or constantly browbeaten online, can be as almost as bad as some jackass in Florida wanting to ban any mention of sexual orientation or minority history/opinions. Cultural tyranny is still tyranny. If the streamer doesn't desire to see that opinion, ignore it or don't participate in a wide-open live comment stream where the mods can only delete, not gatekeep (like radio talk shows) comments, although the steamer can still see it b/c mods can only move so fast. Plenty of opinions I don't want to see and some I'd like to set fire to (meaning the idiot 10 miles from me, waving Trump 2024 and Fuck Biden flags NEXT TO HIS MAILBOX ON THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, where schoolbuses full of kids pass everyday, not to mention in cars). Where I live, if I put up a Fuck Trump flag, the county and state troopers would be swarming my house (benefits of living in Bama) so I can't do anything to stop the idiot down the road but I can be blocked from my own declaration (if I was ig'nint as the TrumpCult guy). That's the way the world works, bruv/sis.

[@ClayBenTreeceJr.]

Here's what I feel that Rae needs to do here and it's very simple there's three ways she can do it she did members only mode chat during Among Us era early on and that's something she could have done during No Pixel 3.0 era as well 1. Members only chat we're only paid members can chat in the chat 2. Raising the subscriber timer threshold in order before you can communicate and chat 3. Members Only GTA Streams we're only paid members can watch the streams

[@ghostm530]

I've noticed some of her members are also the ones who tend to backseat or tell her stuff like no!!!!" or "why would you make her do that" or "I hate this don't do it" these are members who have been with her 5+ months too. I think KZbin just needs to really get a move on and improve their live streaming chat moderation feature it's just so shit. These streamers deserve so much more without having to worry about chat.

[@honeydew8769]

Sadly, making it members only won't change anything now like in Among us era because people get gifted memberships on KZbin and there have been some bad eggs who have gotten in. Also increasing the subscriber time doesn't change much either because some older subscribers are toxic/controlling as well. KZbin doesn't really have good mechanics when it comes to dealing with chat. Also, those people would still watch and hop in others chats or take it to twitter to be menaces

[@ClayBenTreeceJr.]

​@@honeydew8769you know it would not be so much of a problem if the GTA Stans brigading her on Twitter and tagging her in every single post related to GTA it's more of a them problem then it is a YT chat issue and I think what will be a good punishment for those GTA stans would be a perma ban in the chat and or who in raetwt community is for her not to play GTA in protest as punishment for their actions and call them out

[@DioceseofKalookan-kt4nq]

​@@ClayBenTreeceJr. funny you are one of those who are toxic and likes to shit talk Raes friends that you don't like. Honestly you are way worst than those gta stans because you literally shitting on Raes personal life. So STFU

[@Pr0digYz1]

That won’t work because a lot of her fans are just crazy invested lol. Viewers need to understand this shit is just for entertainment. I’m surprised even by some of my siblings that watch RP they talk so much shit about PD and shit and I’m like damn take it easy it’s just RP. I get it though. But just enjoy the show.

[@panchitahs]

Maybe birds can spam emote only to drown them out when it gets bad. 😮

[@YardenAkin]

We do that in Rae’s chat we spam raeSip whenever chat is overly delulu but it can only help so much

[@Qtmars666]

TALK YO TRUTH KING

[@jamescurfman3284]

Well said. :)

[@browndreary17]

can someone give more context cuz i missed valkyrae's streams last week

[@vargasmanuel348]

The TLDR of it was that she wanted to use Bobby Beldrum, but her chat didn't like it because of BonBon's ties with Sooty and Chatty. It really ruined the vibe of the rest of her stream on gta imo and she blew up at chat and ingame she vented to Chatty about it. Essentially, we got locked out of some potentially spicy rp because of her chat.

[@browndreary17]

@@vargasmanuel348 what's the name of the live or the day if you can remember?

[@vargasmanuel348]

@@browndreary17 kzbin.infoIiQsn9oXCPE?si=bDpk6mIeGRXshEER This is the vos. You'll find where she got upset starting 2:30:00 mark.

[@browndreary17]

@@vargasmanuel348 wow thank you so much i really appreciate your help

[@vargasmanuel348]

@@browndreary17 Of course 😊

[@forzer456]

What was Rae chat doing? I don’t watch live but it’s so annoying when chatter make it unpleasant to rp.

[@emperorjoker9240]

Basically trying to get her to act a certain way

[@mambalevel1017]

Chatterbox don’t even want to play GTA.. the clowns don’t really dont anything anymore! Rae sees this and wants to get spicy… but the chattercups hoppers don’t ever want this story to end lol

[@laurenashleyking]

It’s not “valkyrae’s” chat, its chat hoppers coming from other streams. People that watch her regularly know the mindset of Ray Mond because she explains it to us all the time.

[@yololoyo7379]

It is some of her hardcore stans tho. I remember Lord Kebun and Fanfan said they got a lot of hate comments on Twitter and Reddit tagging them. Also bunch of people send hate on their DM too

[@methalammar5696]

In that paticular moment it was all on valkyrae fans since there was no big streamer to hop from

[@wishzk]

Oh, come on. It's literally Chattycups stans who are overprotective over this fake pixel relationship being regularly annoying in chat and weird about Ray Mond's decisions. They treat this relationship RP as a real life, istg.

[@iamcage187]

No there are chat hoppers but there are also toxic members in the community. The mods in chat are just really good at catching it but you see it a lot in comment sections and I see it a lot of Twitter.

[@vrod9686]

This! It’s chat hoppers and gta frogs. She has backseaters in other games but not like this so to other comments, no it’s not sunraes. Been one since 2018 :) you can tell

[@Kilow956]

Gtarp chat aids once again just like when it was her and >redacted

[@DarkusZarvix]

You can dislike a character but love the streamer. I don't know why people can't separate the two, even if a character is partially a self-insert of the streamer. They are not a carbon copy. That's not fun. That's not interesting. It isn't entertaining. The point of these people streaming is for entertainment! If you enjoy boring, everyday life... go live your own.

[@imomoiro]

Why can't people just watch and have fun. You think everyone has a say on how everyone should play. When you watch movies or drama's do you have a say to it? =_= poor streamers.

[@EfrenCulala]

❤,

[@uli11]

I agree with chatterbox, but I draw the line at 'respecting Whippy'. That's just too far. I mean, the dude is Australian, for god's sake... Respecting Whippy is an ick.

[@tiana5238]

Rae wants her chat to be an open space where people can say their opinion freely, which is fine. But the problem is that people are not being respectful. That chat is often very critical, judgeful, demanding, & mean about other characters/streamers. Raymond is simply a character that Valkyrae plays, whatever happens is Rae's decision based off her character, so stop trying to convince her to do other wise. Also, Twitter has gotten a little better, 4 weeks ago you'd get roasted just for having a negative opinion about Raymond or Chatterbox, or for agreeing with Gigi or Kitty, even liking April. I will not lie that the way Valkyrae's chat is, has put me off. GTA rp is just a game, you are not Ray Mond, Nopixel is not real, it's not a reality show, it's simply for fun and is content that a streamer chooses to showcase so that we all can witness it. My advice Valkyrae, is the same as Jaggers but also, stop relying so much on chat when you play RP. I understand wanting to read what the viewers think, but keep it occasionally, there's no fun- when chat is nitpicking everything you do, basically backseating the whole Ray Mond 4.0 arc and all of her friendships. & one last thing, to the people that were hiding in the back, that are wayy too invested into Chattercups... go touch some grass, go to the beach, ride a boat, go to a party, watch another streamer, do something else.

[@donaldmashburn1039]

I agree, the biggest problem is when those opinions turn into back seating and complaining when it isn't going their way.