Chatting With Nutts - Episode #68 ft Bookborn

Chatting With Nutts - Episode #68 ft Bookborn
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Welcome to the 68th episode of Chatting with Nutts! My guest this episode of Chatting With Nutts is one of my favorite people on this platform, @Bookborn ! We hope you enjoy this conversation on Chatting with Nutts as we talk about the current topics in fantasy as well as what we are reading and have already read that blew our minds.
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[@spilchsaysstuff1427]

I took a creative writing class many years ago, and it was quite refreshing. One of the things he started with was that he asked us what we thought of strawberries. The small group looked at each other, wondering where this was going. He asked everyone individually and got some likes and don't likes. He then asked us what that told us about strawberries. Again, awkward looks at each other until he said that it said nothing about strawberries. So, let's go deeper. Why did someone like them-well, they're sweet, and as she used to eat too many sugary sweets, strawberries were a nice substitute. I only like them on yoghurt and honey etc. We all told tales of strawberries. And afterwards the teacher asks again, what does all this say about strawberries. This time we looked at each other with smiles across our faces and all agreed it told us nothing. But we knew some interesting things about each other. That was how we approach a piece of Art and how we tell stories.

[@thefantasynuttwork]

Wow that is amazing

[@TheBeeesKnees]

I always love when bookborn is on ❤ great episode as always and great conversations had 💕🥰

[@thefantasynuttwork]

Thank you my friend, she’s one of my favs 🙌

[@TheFantasyLibrary]

Love hearing you two talk about a song of ice and fire. A couple of weeks after I reread A game of Thrones, Bookborn's video in defense of sansa came out and with her usual eloquence, she put everything I was thinking into words. When I was younger and read it for the first time I remember resenting Sansa for her behavior and for her gullibility, but now I read it as an adult and all I could think was she's a kid, what was she supposed to do and think? Also, I love watching these, hope you keep chatting with people for a long time :) P.S I wish I could watch these live, but the curse of the time zones :(

[@thefantasynuttwork]

Timezones are tough, I understand!

[@esmayrosalyne]

Funny how I enjoy listening to you two gush over ASOIAF more than actually reading the books themselves, lol. This was so fun, Bookborn always makes me feel slightly dumb and I love her for it hahaha. Also, it is truly heartbreaking to hear about the negative and inane backlash that both of you have to deal with, especially because you are both such GEMS and deserve nothing but love. Thanks for the entertainment again, Jimmy ☺

[@thefantasynuttwork]

Appreciate it!

[@sowercookie]

"A lion does not concern himself with the opinion of the sheep" will never not live rent free in my head, that scene was so good! ASOIAF slaps! I don't care that it'll never get finished because the story that is out is a mindblowing, life changing experience. I think some people have the WRONG opinion that the female characters suck because of the tv show, they honestly didn't do a good job with that. And some people LOVE to pretend they've read the books when they haven't...

[@thefantasynuttwork]

Lots of people get the tv show conflated with the books

[@ericmerrell8622]

In reference to Bookborn's comment about people liking videos being validating even though they shouldn't: You should absolutely take pride in your work. The two of you and Mike are my top three booktubers and a large part of that is the quality and sincerity of your content.

[@thefantasynuttwork]

She sure should, she does great stuff

[@ericmerrell8622]

@@thefantasynuttwork Not just Hillary Jimmy. Your channel is one of the first ones I check when I decide to look at KZbin. Your balance of quality content and sincerity and passion is something that is absolutely unique in the community and something you should definitely take pride in.

[@thefantasynuttwork]

@@ericmerrell8622 that’s extremely nice of you thank you

[@MaestSam]

It's funny to listen to BOTH of you pronouncing names "wrong". Never change please 😂 Bookborn: "TO-LI?" Jimmy: "LEE-SA TUH-LI"

[@MaestSam]

On a more serious note, I've seen many booktubers pronounce regular English words wrong. Now I wonder if it's just a coincidence... Maybe it has to do with reading so many books...? Jimmy (niche, epitome), Bookborn (pedantic), Merphy and etc.

[@thefantasynuttwork]

@@MaestSam my dyslexia lol

[@MaestSam]

@@thefantasynuttwork I'm sorry. I forgot. Makes sense now. 😅

[@Fenix-lr6ez]

A bit late, but wonderful conversation! Bookborn gave an idea about doing an ASOIAF Winds of Winter theories' livestream when she finishes the books, with you knowing everything and her clueless. Don't know if it was actually an idea or more like a joke, but I think it would be great, seeing someone piece things together would be funny to see, and I believe there's no video about this. Again, great livestream!

[@thefantasynuttwork]

Thank you!

[@helgestrm9670]

Halfway in and this convo is a gem Jimmy. You guys have great back and forths. Reading can be a solitary hobby to have. Grateful for the podcasts. Have a great saturday my dude 🙂

[@thefantasynuttwork]

Thank you so much!

[@siftglutenfree3682]

Always fun to listen to you and Bookborn chat. Completely relate to everything she said about school 😂

[@thefantasynuttwork]

I like the sound of Dr Bookborn

[@fantasyawash]

Forgot I was logged into my other account but yes. Dr. Bookborn it is. @@thefantasynuttwork

[@bryanbcd1]

Great show ❤

[@thefantasynuttwork]

Thank you!

[@kevadii]

Damn, I've always thought Daniel Abraham would be the ideal author to finish the series if, god forbid, George doesn't. Bummed but also curious now to hear Abraham has gone on record saying he wouldn't finish it.

[@Yungshamgod]

“It’s almost like a convergence” lmao Malazan is too real

[@thefantasynuttwork]

😂

[@susanna4972]

Please oh please make that video on The Americans!!

[@SarahJ70]

Currently reading Asoiaf Catelyn Stark is one of my faves. Sansa might not be my favorite but does not deserve the hate. I love how Sansa’s worldview changes after her father’s death. Really great stuff, Martin nails pov as well as female characters (Brienne❤!). I wonder who’s going to be on episode 69.. 👀👀👀

[@thefantasynuttwork]

Hmmmmm 👀

[@tuna593]

I actually would love to see where Sanderson goes with more freedom in his writing. I get the sense that he is someone who's constantly trying to improve his craft and I wonder if Stormlight is maybe not allowing him to explore new writing styles or improve as much as doing what he wants to do will.

[@samm8190]

Jimmy someone who makes REALLY long form content on booktube is KrimsonRogue. He’s a booktube veteran and not only would you love his extended breakdowns and analysis of books but I’d love to see him on Chatting with Nutts.

[@thefantasynuttwork]

I’ll look him up !

[@robert_lightsong]

The series I enjoy people talk about more than actually reading; “The Wheel of Time” it sounds great, I DNF’d twice 😂

[@thefantasynuttwork]

same lol

[@tannersturgeon2448]

RAINBOW GUARD LETS GO

[@thefantasynuttwork]

YES TANNER

[@bradywedshot4936]

I’m gonna catch one of these things live one day.

[@thefantasynuttwork]

I hope!

[@joshcarrick446]

I’m going to check out that Ohio book. I grew up in an Appalachian town in Ohio and I’m ready to relive the trauma!

[@thefantasynuttwork]

Oh it’ll hit you hard, I was just enthralled and sad lmao

[@joshcarrick446]

Hell yeah. I just went back for a visit so so,e if it’s fresh now haha

[@heidi6281]

Jimmy I know you loved the Dragonbone chair! Stephen Aryan is having a live panel discussion with Shauna Lawless and Mike Shackle on February 9th 4:00 pm est!!

[@thefantasynuttwork]

Nice!

[@chadia25]

The greatest show on the internet is back!!! ❤

[@thefantasynuttwork]

You’re too kind my friend

[@wrustria]

i just started of blood and fire by ryan cahill and its so tropey and kinda not the best but for some reason i cannot stop reading it😂😂I usually dnf books soooooo quickly. Its just fun and well enough written that im having a good time, and if the next books are even better im all in!

[@thefantasynuttwork]

I hope ya love them!

[@SethPlato01]

Will bookborn be a normal ASOIF fan at the end or she will go down the GRRRM hole..... Normal fan: I like Jaime, and I hate to like him The other ones: THE PASTE!!!!

[@thefantasynuttwork]

😂

[@ericF-17]

Hi Jimmy I've been watching booktube for over a year now and I love both of your channels, as well as Philip's, Allen's, Jake Bishop's etc. Chatting with Nutts is one of my favorite parts and this was a great episode. I've really loved all of Bookborn's ASIOAF videos and I'm happy she's enjoying the series. I also strongly agree with the sentiment that a Booktuber should feel free to make whatever content they want. I've been considering creating a channel so I can comment on videos for a while, but I haven't until now. Its just there are a few things in this video that I've heard too many times and simply can't let slide any further... The first thing is you saying you don't agree with Brandon Sanderson on very much. While I can't claim to know specifics, I'll just say that the general trend of your political views is pretty obvious to anybody who watches a lot of your channel, and as someone who is very knowledgeable about Sanderson I can say that actually you do agree on a lot of things. The second thing is the absence of appreciation for Sanderson's themes. Stormlight is my favorite series of all time (and I don't really want it adapted either), and I also consider it to be thematically the strongest work of fantasy I've ever read. And I'm putting it, not just generally but in terms of themes specifically, above books like Earthsea, ASOIAF, the Dispossessed, The Edan Trilogy, and A Song for Arbonne, which are, by the way, all amazing. I was astounded when I first found out that some people don't like Brandon's thematic work. Admittedly, I haven't read Stormlight in a while and I don't really expect this comment alone to convince you of anything, but at some point I will create a channel and make a deep-dive in to Sanderson's themes and philosophy and prove you and Jared Henderson wrong. For now, I'd just ask you to spare a thought or two to reconsider. For example, what do you think about the exploration of art in Yumi and the Nightmare Painter, or about its commentary on the nature of duty? I think Yumi is in fact a clear condemnation of the idea that we should all just shut up and accept our lot in life. Thank you for existing, thank you for making videos, and expect to see more of me in the future. Also you should totally write more, that first paragraph of one of your stories you read a few months ago was great.

[@thefantasynuttwork]

When have I ever said that Sandersons themes aren’t solid? Me disagreeing with some of his more introspective lines in a story is not the same as theme. Also, feel free to share your opinion and make videos, I encourage it. But “prove me wrong” would mean that I am in some way stating I’m being objective or believe my opinion to be a fact which neither are true. I have zero authority or objectivity about any of this. I’m a moron with a camera lol. Cheers

[@ericF-17]

@@thefantasynuttwork Whoa you responded really fast thank you and its kind of surreal to have you respond to my comment. Sorry if I misrepresented your argument, although I'll say that I personally love a lot of Hoid's philosophical musings. Also you're definitely not a moron.

[@davidranderson1]

The folks who decide to play gatekeeper in really long running fandoms are playing a silly game. The characters and stories evolve, the critical and fan consensus shifts, and ultimately staking out the one true way to be a fan makes you seem ridiculous.

[@thefantasynuttwork]

Well said

[@cabrademora1]

:D

[@s13gaming72]

Im confused why people hate on you for making some manga content. I love books and I love manga. Though I guess Ive had judgy people come at me saying that graphic novels don't count as books and that they just pad out numbers on reading lists.

[@thefantasynuttwork]

I just always say I love stories, in many forms

[@s13gaming72]

@@thefantasynuttwork That's a good way to put it. And if a story's good, then it's good regardless of the media.

[@thatsci-firogue]

You should compliment yourself more often, Jimmy. Be kind to yourself. I know what you mean in regards to how we come across in comments, I've been thinking about that a lot lately and honestly i think i just come across as either annoying and or an asshole. Sadly I've also recently DNFed Bound & the Broken, 100 pages into the second book. Its cool that the series is resonating with so many people, I'm just not one of them. Now to listen to the rest 😊

[@thefantasynuttwork]

You aren’t annoying or an ass at all my dude