CHEAP DIY ELECTRIC MTB VS PREMIUM £7000 E-BIKE!

[@Oppensleimer]

Would like to see a mid range mtb (£1000-£1500) with a conversion kit Vs the Purple Beast!

[@SamPilgrim]

Yeah good idea!! 👍

[@MarvinWestmaas]

@@SamPilgrim And use something decent, like a Toseven DM2 if you want your 'beast' to win or a DM1 if you want to leave it in the dust. If not willing to splurge on those, get a Tongshen. Tsdz2B is going for the most budget option, Tsdz8 if you want to have a useful bike after the video you can actually ride on or lend to someone and they would have a good time with it ( if you pick a decent platform ofc ). My tsdz2b + battery made me ride my Giant Thalon 27.5 way more, and it was a lot cheaper as your beast ( and performs a lot better as this 'budget budget cheap pile of junk bike ;) ).

[@BaldBloke]

@@SamPilgrim don't forget to wear a black hoodie and balaclava🤣

[@steviefpv]

I wish mid range was 1000-1500 that’s like entry level that still has naff forks lol

[@2223jels]

yeah why would you do this ..

[@kevinwehleit6376]

Woah!!! Alison! You are killing it! Pumping the track and so much air time now, well done 🤘🏿

[@Prophes0r]

The hub motor conversion kits work SO MUCH better. None of that chain garbage to deal with and the torque is usually better. I've done several conversions with $300-$400 USD and they have worked VERY well. It's also nice to be able to have two wheel drive. One of the conversions was for a cargo bike with a 1kw front & 1.5kw rear motor.

[@ionclaw7340]

where can i get the one he has for $200??

[@JasonNosajasoNosaj]

I don't believe it. Hubs break on rough off-road and you don't have gears. I want to be wrong so post some YT video names proving otherwise.

[@Prophes0r]

@@JasonNosajasoNosaj The hub is the center part of the wheel. every bike has (at least) 2 hubs. I don't mean the old style hubs with internal gearing/braking. The hub motors I have used replace the hubs on a set of wheels. You put the derailleur gears on them the same way as normal hubs. There are hub motors with nowhere to mount gears, but I'm pretty sure those are made for front wheels. NOTE: Wow I haven't looked at what is offered in a few years, and either these sellers are getting WAY more bold in their marketing claims(likely) or the current generation motors have WAY more power than the ones I was using. I'm seeing 5-9kw hub motors for sale... EDIT: I think some of these are much larger ones designed for E-DirtBikes.

[@creageous]

Wow! Alison is doing super great. So much improvement since the episode where you taught her how to take some air. Very impressed!

[@MotoGuy-ul6lp]

Would be good to see a £3000 emtb vs the £7000 one.

[@SamPilgrim]

Yeah ok, I’ll see what I can do! :)

[@MotoGuy-ul6lp]

@@SamPilgrim awesome 😎

[@davearmstrong8380]

😂

[@markbezzy]

My personal expirence £5k 250w full sus giant ebikes, 30mls range on mid power pedal assist, 16mph top speed vs £1.5k DIY build 1000w bafang mid drive, 30mls range throttle only or 60mls in eco and top speed of 30mph!!, pre built modern ebikes cannot compete with diy builds & as for £7k, that's ktm300tpi money, ridiculous. Awesome video 👍👍

[@stunninfella]

Loving Alison’s progression. Well done!!!

[@gretchynandy]

No dinner for Alison! That's harsh but the Canyon looks amazing. Great fun.

[@SamPilgrim]

😂 poor Ali!

[@murphymurphy6684]

I love your enthusiasm Sam. Makes me wanna get out on my bike and have a blast everytime I watch your vids!

[@xpndblhero5170]

I wish I could show Sam the glory of 72v 15kw ebike kits... I bet he would love that because it's just like a Cake or Sur Ron but lighter and faster. ⚡❤😁

[@BenjySparky]

Today was EPIC, Sam, Lewi,and Allison, y'all rock! You better feed, Allison😂. To the sskkyyy. Peace ❤

[@incredible5587]

I love this crazy bike vids!!!

[@alexford5214]

"Just trust me, Im used to this rubbish stuff" LOLOLOL

[@detmer87]

That DIY kit looks like the *very first* kit that ever came to the market. Last 10 years we have seen *much better* DIY kits from Bafang, Tongsheng, Toseven and CYC...

[@tylerhamilton-nz8qs]

Couldn't care less for a 7 grand e bike. Last week I paid £3250 Honda Goldwing 1800cc literally a cadillac on 2 wheels!

[@MTB_FANATIC99]

Buy a Harley 😂😂

[@fullsendmarinedarwin7244]

@@MTB_FANATIC99 Goldwing is way cooler than Harley ,

[@ferociousdiablo]

Sam before Canyon: "It doesn't matter what bike you have" now its "Lets see what a real bike can do" Damn how things change eh?

[@SprinklePops-u6g]

Sam! I just went to the very bottom of your youtube, to your first video, and I didn't know that you invented the windshieldwiper, who would have thought it took until 2011 for someone to do a tailwhip to oppo tailwhip. and the first flat drop frontflip! and the first flair drop in! you should be so proud of your self knowing you were the first person out of 8 billion people to do all of that! love you, the literal best mountainbiker in existence!

[@ChrisFaustmann]

you should do more cheap ebike vids theyre sooo good

[@FuzzyStone01]

I want to see more head to head for sure! :D what a fun

[@E-MTBs]

OMG😂 can’t believe you flipped that POS!

[@DanParrArt]

Having built a custom ebike and knowing all the parts you have to upgrade to cope with the extra power I truly feared for your life on that death trap!

[@TrackerPoint-o8o]

I love the bike comparison videos some of my favourite content it sometimes makes me feel like I might need a better bike 😂 you got me into biking im able to do a few good jumps now keep these vids coming absolutely love them .❤

[@jamestsmithiii4487]

you should get the canyon stoic and do heavy trail riding and urban downhill and some trickery. Push the hardtail to the limits. And this video is just incredible awesome video Sam.

[@roncri]

Love the purple paint job on the Canyon. Guessing that's custom.

[@Traildude193]

You should do a cheap e bike vs another 🔥 content as usual Sam keep it up

[@welshfinn1]

Amazing flip on the Raleigh..

[@philbrown8056]

Sam you are absolutely awesome on a bike.

[@andyukh1625]

I gotta say, Alison has come on leaps & bounds, and rides them berms leaning into the turns… 👏🏽 keep it up, Sam you’re ok as well 😆🤣

[@spengler_mtb]

Sam please do more cheap v expensive It’s my favourite especially from you ❤

[@SamPilgrim]

Cheers dude, more coming!

[@benchapman9667]

I've got a Raleigh Max HT3 if you want it to replace that Nitro. You can then have fun at Swinley Forest which is nearby.

[@psvhangoveral]

Ive converted my 2001 Orange Patriot LT into an eeeeb and its epic!

[@martinsv9183]

Would be interesting with the cheapest full suspension bike against the premium. Maybe retro fitted with more suitable tires if needed..

[@markbezzy]

3kw hub drive, 52v battery, on anything full suspension, built in the last 10yrs, would win any UK legal ebike bought from a shop 💯👍👍

[@keroro77]

i just love this dude. how could you not.

[@ashleytombs]

Yeah Sam i’ve watched Sam virtually his whole Slopestyle career and I’ve never seen him scared of doing a Flip until this video must be in the top 3 scariest flips Sam is done How epic of a video would it be if Sam an Lewi build their own DIY E bike

[@gamndoodbrewing8636]

The flip! Stomped! 🍻

[@strat-ever]

What an unepic day... (you missed the usual 'Today is gonna be epic') - brilliant video btw.

[@junka1975]

I do hope Alison did get some dinner. Now as to why Sam has to backflip a cheap E bike? Well it's because he's Sam Pilgrim, master of fun and mayhem on cheap bikes and he just knew Lewi would get the perfect shot of him doing it. Nice one Sam.

[@remdanedz8685]

iam from algeria ilove this channel

[@davidhadley6164]

No suspension. No brakes. No problem. You would think Sam would have a better MTB lying around to fully send?❤

[@2223jels]

hes a plant this is a fix and he's also shilling $$$$ why wouldn't we question him. next sam in red pushing putin for president

[@Prophes0r]

He probably got it out of the garbage somewhere.

[@SKBKER]

He did it because he is sponsored by canyon so chose a rubbish conversion kit .

[@Fed2Close1]

i want an ebike so bad! This just makes me need one even more Great video sam!

[@SubaruWRC1996]

I got the specialized turbo levo about 2 weeks ago and I absolutely love it, definitely worth the money. I also use it for work and on my scott hardtail it used to have it took me 35 minutes to get home and on the specialized it takes 12 to 15 minutes

[@Wockkkyyslushieee]

Seems good for Big trails for assisting uphill or After a crash when you can barely Pedal

[@PersonalMemories.]

Bit of an extreme test for a budget system!! Probably be fine for riding a few miles to the shops on proper roads!!

[@burningatthetrailhead]

The mani assist 😂

[@MaNNeRz91]

You should try the £350 2000w direct drive ebay kit. Only 48v but has plenty of poke to wheely up and down the road from a stand still

[@chrisball8178]

Your enthusiasm could bring back the dead 😂🎉

[@Lukehamilton-256]

What is the wattage on that ebike the canyon

[@martintramuntbikemallorcak481]

My DIY eMTB looks just like your "Premium" one... (imo better though!) - So.... you can make exceptionally great eMTB's....but it's not for everyone..But if my eMTB is parked up outside the many rental shops I am associated with here, it's mine they ALL stop and look at.........I gotta admit, your DIY one here, I see many such things on the streets here...and they are chit!! haha - I just made my wife a nice flatbar eGravel bike...test rode it yesterday.... superb!!

[@brianjoyce2731]

Love my single speed, inexpensive Radmission!

[@elusive323]

Rad vid man,would last me a bit longer I cant cutty like that haha. Look out for a cargo bike,im sure Louy would love to ride up front with the camera and keen to see one in mid air !

[@charlespendley6360]

I mean, when a bike is as much as a car, it should be unstoppable. Even better when sam gets all his expensive bikes free.

[@kevinburke1325]

The bike is not as much as a car smh.

[@brandoncampbell3432]

ide love to see one of those new conversion kits (swift i think) the ones where its just a wheel with a powered hub. theyre like 400-500

[@maxpohl1598]

You got champion skills and you're so funny 😊

[@ZachHibbsNZ]

Hey can you do a calab with mat jones?

[@chrisc7764]

I daresay a cleanly swapped DIY full sus bike competes with an emtb from a manufacturer. My Kona Stinky (BBS02, 52v, 27.5/26 mini mullet, Rohloff) keeps up with my buddies' Turbo Levo and Heckler no problem. I get 20 miles on a charge depending on my assist level, and the weight of the motor and battery isn't really an issue - it's about 52lbs total.

[@nastripk531]

Sending it as always 😂😂

[@fullsendmarinedarwin7244]

Absolute mad man

[@АлександрМортис-к9п]

That's a weird conversion. Here they usually put a motor-wheel (at least that's how it's called in my language) at the back (or even at front).

[@TheBaconChannel69]

ye a hub motor

[@Prerejection]

Me watching this wanting a conversion kit for my bike just for commuting never planning on doing anything remotely close to any of this

[@master99321]

Great video, quick question where is this track in the uk?

[@Thingamajigs]

A moderate ebike conversion comparison would be better. At least a decent mtb frame (full suspension) with eletric conversion vs the expensive emtb brand.

[@Reuben-vx7qk]

I LOVE THESE VIDS THERE EPIC

[@Shorebreak_]

Would love to see a canyon hard tail video to see the difference between a Grand Canyon 5 and Grand Canyon 7

[@kevinmortimer1883]

what a fun video ❤

[@paulnormandin1926]

Does Allison have a channel? Would like to watch her progression.

[@lokodh]

How hard is it to put the kit together

[@brianpham2584]

Depends on your mechanical skills and the kit you're getting. If you got the skills, not hard, but it takes time fiddling with.

[@paul340mopar]

That conversion Blows. Even a Hub Drive Kit would be better than that. Mid-Drive is the way to go if you want to do an E-Bike Build. I've done several with the Bafang Mid-Drive, and with an aftermarket Controller and 72v Battery you can Fly!

[@FlyingMonk1912]

It would be cool to see the evolution of E-MTB's. Get a Gen.1 vs 2024 model

[@dr_ned_flanders]

Not really the same thing though are they? It is like comparing an SR-71 to a Cessna 150. However, for people going to the shops or just riding on normal roads. the cheap bike is a good option.

[@DrNat1]

Dweeb

[@rym5810]

Both planes what you have just said, these are both bikes.. So yeah 90%pretty much the same

[@ruggugglan]

Should have build one with the Bafang mid engine kit. Much more reliable.

[@D4RKW0LF_91]

Love it 🤟🔥

[@Yanirop]

can you do a urban downhill video please, thank you, ps you are the best mtb biker.

[@Mtbbroz]

I love your vids your the goat 🐐

[@elvislad]

@SamPilgrim love this no intro,straight into it style. No one gives a f$#k about seeing same intro time after time,yours though is...was sick as fuck. Yep people want straight into whatever the title says it is

[@Jann1x_0]

Now bring back the free bike challenge🥺🙏

[@Yelnats87]

Atleast these tests confirm how good the top end e-bikes really are!

[@TheBaconChannel69]

wallet says otherwise

[@BobThe1st]

Would be fun to see you try a mate x bike 🤘

[@daslupus4303]

If you could have a throttle blip feature on the decent e bikes you could fully control pitch when in the air like on a mx bike.

[@SamPilgrim]

Imagine! 👌

[@sixtysecondsofstephens2386]

Got to be the ultimate bike you've flipped. Balls of steel, had visions of the chain coming off again and catching up.

[@gethappycyclingcampingoutdoors]

Awesome ✌️❤to the World.

[@Anubiz_SnK]

should I buy dartmoor hornet 2022? I mean is it a good bike if someone can tell me

[@clintstoner13680]

Wait ... is the "cheap" bike in the video really ~$800+ (new)? Oof ... seems like a fairly expensive sport if entry level requires a $1K+ investment. Still, very cool and highly entertaining.

[@Tron_Funkin_Blow]

Eye opening investigation.

[@Grundy_nunley]

Sam you know you can get a Walmart bike pot good forks wheels and tires be just as good as a 7k bike

[@mathewhicks2998]

Got a canyon strive on and if you're thinking of getting a canyon I wouldn't bother,had to send it back twice for problems with the battery,the bikes still not working properly and I've still got another year of warranty and now they're not getting back to me

[@stocky1042]

My god. A Raleigh nitro. My first ever MTB 😂😂

[@SamPilgrim]

😂 beast!

[@christo930]

What's "sketchy" about cantilever brakes? Cantilever rim brakes are perfectly fine, especially in dry conditions.

[@64Spokes]

Compared to 4 piston hydraulics they’re sketchy

[@christo930]

@@64Spokes Look, if you said hydraulic brakes are better or that rim brakes are not the greatest for downhill mountain biking, I would agree. OTOH, the whole bike is completely unsuited for mountain biking. But for ordinary bicycle usage, cantilever rim brakes are more than adequate. Even for really basic mountain biking, what was done in this video is also more than adequate. Also, I am not all convinced that 4 piston brakes are any better (than standard hydraulic disc brakes). Even most cars have single piston disc brakes. To upgrade them to a better system really wouldn't be any better without power brakes (which are pretty much standard today). I am not entirely opposed to them, but I would really want to see some real world tests to be convinced they are any better.

[@SuperIdol-x7z]

@@christo930 more stopping power...

[@Ctrepowerco2inflator]

hello, do you need bike inflator?

[@topelite666]

DIY will always be superior to prefab, but the problem is by the time youve perfected your DIY it will be way more money and time and hassle than the normal person is willing to put up with lol

[@FishingWithRoman27]

I love your videos

[@2223jels]

Fit a mid drive???

[@2223jels]

lets compare an orange to a boat. wtf. and what even is that drive?

[@pascalbruyere7108]

Maybe a little extreme towards the cheap side 😂

[@korak2895]

Can you do this race against a Bafang 750w or 1000w

[@xricsi1097]

The only challenge this built bike can handle properly is to transport you from A to B in the town.

[@TNWWDGTFilms]

Purple beast with sam, versus "average rider" on a surron type e bike

[@ELECTRICBIKEDIYLIFE]

Did that thing have lead acid batteries on it?

[@SamPilgrim]

Actually not sure…

[@mopedtobias9049]

Can you please try riding a mountainbike where the fat tires are pressured with water instead of air?

[@Natereviewss]

does the 7000 one have a throttle?

[@brucefowler3371]

Sam you are amazing and so fun to watch

[@cechichan]

What kneepads are those tho seem comfy mate ? ;D

[@SamPilgrim]

TSG Tahoe 🤙

[@lecolintube]

12:16 🤣🤣🤣 no, only ‘you can do flips’ on a £160 ridged e-bike 🤯 that flip was unreal! 🤩🙌

[@kerrytodd3901]

Heated words can work wonders especially if you have a hammer in the toolbox 😅

[@SKBKER]

There are much better conversion kits that have more tech than the canyon but I know you are sponsored by Canyon so there we go .