CHEAP Fanless 2.5GbE and 10GbE Switch TP-Link TL-SH1832

[@JeffGeerling]

Looking forward to the 2.5G switch review! I've had my eye on like 6 of the ones in that little dolly shot.

[@zachradabaugh4925]

Agreed, I would love to add some 2.5G to my K8S cluster but the smaller size actually appeals more to me as I don’t need quite the amount of 2.5G ports

[@jmonsted]

Unmanaged? Yeah, that's useless to me.

[@XenHat]

As someone owning a Mikrotik and looking to get an unmanaged switch, I am interested in your use case

[@jonpinkley2844]

@@XenHat There are use cases for dumb switches. For one thing they are easy to configure.🙂If you have a managed switch, and haven't used the features, then a dumb switch will fill your needs. If you have never used vlans, then I can understand why you wouldn't be interested. Once you have used vlans, you won't want to look back. A switch with this many ports just begs to have the ability to "partition" it into multiple "mini-switches", each with a different class of users. And there are other features that most managed switches also have, like the ability to mirror a (set of) ports. Or display the mac address table to locate the port where a mac address is.

[@jonpinkley2844]

@@jakewynn At first I thought what you are describing is a "hub" or a multiport repeater that operate at layer 1 (physical layer). But even repeaters have "active circuitry" and are not passive (and won't work with analog phone lines) I really have no idea what you are trying to describe. Do you have something I can do a google search for to understand what you are referring to? When I said "dumb" switch, I meant it as I have normally seen the slang used, i.e. dumb == unmanaged. Any ethernet switch produced in the last 20 years is based on an ASIC, and these have mac learning capability built in. I would guess that most ASICs produced are all "capable" of handling vlans, but the "unmanaged" switches just operate in "vlan-transparent" mode. The difference between unmanaged ("dumb" e.g. TL-SG108), vlan-aware and minimal configurability ("smart" e.g. TL-SG108E), and managed (e.g. TL-SG2008) are how configurable the switches are, and also most managed switches have ASICs with more features and larger CAM tables to allow use in larger LANs. Layer 3 switch (e.g. Cisco 3850) are in a different class, as they have routing capability built in.

[@jakewynn]

@@jonpinkley2844 yep I realised that after I posted it, oops lol

[@Zeric1]

Yes, for anyone running VLANs, having an unmanaged switch with that many ports wouldn't make much sense. Only one of my switches is unmanaged, and it has 8 POE ports that drive POE cameras. All the other switches, even small ones, need VLAN support. I realize some people don't run VLANs, but at this price point which isn't cheap, it should have some management ability.

[@Guillaurent]

This is the exact switch I was looking for for my home setup. It ticks all the boxes: 12x (or more) 2.5gb ports, 4x (or more) 10gb SFP+ ports, unmanaged, no POE, fanless. I think a smaller version 12&4 ports at a lower price would be even more awesome. It only lacks the CE regulatory sticker on the bottom.

[@danjw1]

Yes, even a cut in half version at a appropriate discount would be awesome!

[@User_9yt0aw6]

There is a 16&2 version TL-SH1218 for 2000CNY

[@slappymcphee]

​@@User_9yt0aw6 where? That model number is used for a 10/100 switch from what I see.

[@Daniel15au]

MikroTik CRS312-4C+8XG-RM is better value IMO, but it sounds like you need more ports than what it provides. The MikroTik is fully managed a d has 8 x 10GbE ports and 4 x 10GbE and SFP+ combo ports (for each combo port, you can use either 10GBase-T or SFP+, not both at the same time). The MikroTik is around $500 on Getic.

[@theangelofspace155]

@@Daniel15au does it have 2.5G? Thats the main difference here, how much are every sfp? I have a 24 port 10gbp mikrotik thats why I say it.

[@brianchoi5638]

If it is L2 managed, it will be "shut the f**k up and take my money" for me

[@harrythehandyman]

My guess is that: in order to be able to sell in the US, it has to pass all regulatory requirements, which cost quite a bit time to get approved and money. More importantly, it is likely due to the trade treaty and tariff.

[@colinstu]

Mikrotik should make a managed version of something like this. Or even a bonus POE version.

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

Yes please

[@BillLambert]

A multi-gig switch is the missing link in my Mikrotik stack. So many consumer devices are coming with 2.5G ports these days, a simple CRS with a dozen mGig ports and 10/25G uplink would be an instant buy for me.

[@levifig]

An updated CRS328 with 2.5GBe would be phenomenal!

[@JeremyTaylorNZ]

@@ServeTheHomeVideo well, they've now released the TL-SG3428XPP-M2 which also has the PoE

[@krusic22]

Another region restricted device. But looks amazing for the price.

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

That is why I want a US/ EU version

[@udirt]

Love that it has sufficient 10g ports to attach something to it AND have sufficient bandwidth..

[@marcogenovesi8570]

should probably appear on Aliexpress, as other china-only things that enterprising individuals there decide to resell

[@dyong888]

Amerika is a much smaller market and doesn't warrant China's attention. Once the product gets common place it will be released to amerika.

[@RamaOlama]

an unmanaged switch for homelab? who the heck needs that? Homelab needs at least vlans.

[@alpharesearch2]

I 100% agree, something like this is needed for the US market too. Add a L2 managed version as well. Maybe the asic allows for some light management already? Did you look under the heat sink?

[@jonathanmarshall3974]

If you slow down the video when he’s showing the PCB you can see what looks like pads for a management SoC and memory. I don’t think the ASIC has this natively.

[@alpharesearch2]

@Jonathan Marshall You are correct, looks like the PCB is already designed for a managed version. This is good news, but I would like a US compliment version. Btw, there is also an article with pictures on his website.

[@rfekztjpkrpd4988]

The is an unpopulated square BGA footprint with a RAM footprint besides. So there might actually be a managed variant in the pipeline.

[@DJaquithFL]

Yet another example of .. more crap that you can't buy. ✌️🤪

[@jocelyn-n-tech]

Ended up buying two of these. They are awesome. One at my home one at my office.

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

Sweet!

[@billchen9144]

This kind of models is aimed at the Internet cafe market in China (where people who can't afford graphics cards play their games), so there's little need for management features and they can cut a lot of the cost. If they ever make a managed version and market to the West, it will be priced at a premium as it fills a market niche.

[@SirHackaL0t.]

Price is probably regulatory based. China doesn’t seem to care so much as the US or EU. Also, import taxes, shipping and the fact that the US doesn’t seem to trust china companies for some reason.

[@paulvancyber1979]

is there a switch with 2.5GBE and 10GBE with less ports and POE+???

[@thetj8243]

that's a thing I'm also looking for... the closest I could find is the TP-LINK TL-SG3210XHP-M2 with 8x RJ45 + 2x SFP+ for ~400€

[@paulvancyber1979]

@@thetj8243 but that one is not POE??? And the 10GBE I want rj45, cause my new motherboard will have 2 ports

[@Steamrick]

Now I just need a switch that's half of this. 12 2.5G ports, 4 SFP+ ports, 8W idle power. That'd be the ultimate switch for me. Many switches come with only 2 SFP+ ports, and at that point I need an extra SFP+ switch because I have 3 devices that use SFP+...

[@nonamesi]

Is it just me or is the smiley face in the background flickering even more than usual

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

Still working on that :-/

[@ivanyang2022]

😂

[@ernstwanner3773]

Draytek pq2200xb is managed has 16 ports 2.5g + 4x sfp+ and has poe+ and poe++ - in my opinion a much better switch for homelab

[@AA-kj4ic]

This is the version sold in China hence it only needs chinese regulatory stamping, but in order to get it sold in the US, then you add on CE stamping fee, Rohas fee, and all likes of certification fee, that pushes up pricing. And this is also why in asian countries they can quickly build up infrastructure, fiber, high speed internet to home, where as here in the US, people are still using slow cable internet and get charged an arm and leg for monthly bill. The high cost of equipment is slowing down technological innovation.

[@philarmishaw3730]

A switch like this without management makes no sense.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

I agree

[@jonpinkley2844]

It is hard to believe that the switch ASIC doesn't support vlans. Of course it is possible that it was a rev 1 chip that had bugs that didnt' work correctly with vlans, an putting them in an unmanaged switch works. I wonder if it is vlan-transparent (just doesn't look at the ethtype and passes the frames "untouched"). That what all "dumb" switches I own that were produce in the last 15 years do.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

​@@jonpinkley2844 pretty much all switch chips support VLAN in hardware, even the switches sold as "unmanaged" use VLAN-capable chipsets that are booted in unmanaged mode. A management CPU is an additional component that adds significant cost both for parts and for firmware development, as you see the board was designed for mounting management chip and its RAM (the square BGA pads on the top right, and the rectangle BGA pads for the RAM to the left of that).

[@nagi603]

Dang, my poor CRS305 might have met its successor.... provided it can be bought locally in time.

[@shayshay1997]

POE would be great, but that power supply would struggle. Cost would go up drastically due to the higher cost of the higher rated power supply.

[@jeffreyparker9396]

I have been looking at using one of the really small all sfp+ switches from mikrotik as the core and maybe 3-4 small switches for the rest of the network at least one of which would have 2.5gbps, all because I never found anything like this readily available.

[@Erelyes]

The problem I have with 22.5GbE is that you can either get a switch with a small number of ports (5-8) or you can get one with a crazy number (24 and 4x uplink). It'd be nice to see a unit with say 16 ports and 1x uplink.

[@leonkernan]

Damn, I’d even take half the ports if they offered it at a decent price!

[@kevin666b]

*pokes microtik* come on do something

[@wcg66]

TP Link does sell the TL-SG3428X which is a 24 port 1Gbe plus 4 SFP+ ports switch for $350CAD (~$270US). It’s a managed switch as well. It’s a good budget option if 2.5GB isn’t essential and 4 SFP+ ports is enough.

[@n00byn4t3r]

I've been looking at the DrayTek VigorSwitch PQ2200xb recently, which is a 16x 2.5Gbe + 4x SFP+ with a mix of PoE+ and PoE++ switch for about €700. It's also L2 managed, so that seems like the closest competitor to this switch (and it's actually available outside of China). There's also a version without PoE for about €550, called the Q2200x.

[@erichly]

Compromised firmware…damn I didn’t even think about that. Good point.

[@Jwalk9000]

Well I'm glad to know that it's not just me that finds it frustrating to not be able to find good quality at reasonable price networking gear in North america.

[@johndelabretonne2373]

If it had a management pro restore, I'd say this is exactly what everyone is waiting for... Guessing that if this was nearly impossible to get before this video, it will certainly be impossible with the STH effect! Nice to know it exists though... This passively colored is frickin' awesome; I'd buy this for less than $450 in a heartbeat!

[@TheChadXperience909]

I dunno... That power supply looks a little sketch. I don't think I'd trust this thing in my home. Plus, it could have Chinese spyware on it. Not for me. **Idea:** Somebody should crowd source an affordable switch like this [Looks at Patrick]. Come to think of it, doesn't Level1Techs sell a nice KVM unit? Couldn't STH crowd source an affordable switch to sell on their merch site?

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

That is why we used Wireshark on this one. We did not see anything, but you are right, this is a small sample size. I talked to Wendell about his KVM switch. You are right on that.

[@SmalltimR]

They are selling these on Amazon for $1,576.30 lol

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

IIRC there used to be a seller after we did this video on AliExpress selling them for like $500

[@satstube]

STH channel and content always Rock's 👌

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

Thank you!

[@BillLambert]

This just seems like a goofy product to me. There is a serious void in the market for 2.5G switches, and at first glance this would fit, but at the same time there are far better options for the 10G side of the homelab equation (e.g. Mikrotik). While I can see lots of homelabbers springing for this device, to me it seems like a dead-end. It'll scratch the itch at first, but after a short while you'll want to replace it with one or two more capable switches. I just don't see the $400-500 value here, but 2.5G switching remains overpriced so I guess this is all we can get for now.

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

That was my point in the key lessons learned really. There is a huge void of this reasonably priced 2.5GbE gear in the market. Trying to find something that was a direct competitor available in the US/ EU was impossible.

[@DigitalSteel]

TP-Link makes an Omada managed switch, the TL-SG3210XHP-M2 that has (8) 2.5G rj45 PoE+ and (2) SFP+ ports for around $400 which is the closest thing I can find. I really wish the price would come down though. Something with 2.5G with or without PoE++ and SFP+ is the one piece of networking hardware I have been hunting forever to try and get and can not seem to find these features for a good value

[@gallifreyan]

That one is now on my wish list - looking to replace a SG2008P + MS510TX-PP in my home network, and move the 2008P to my remote location that currently has a 10 year old gigabit unmanaged TPL switch driving the LAN. :)

[@datacntrdude]

+1 for Mikrotik to make one of these for the US market! Personally I would prefer managed and fans (that I could swap with Noctuas), but you nailed the use-case of 2.5Gb and 10GbE backhauls with PoE.

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

We have a managed version that is a bit more expensive.

[@AlexSchendel]

I bought a big spool of CAT6A cable a couple years ago and I'm still waiting for a good price on a 10GbE RJ-45 switch

[@mikebroom1866]

I'm still rocking the Aruba S2500 - 24 gigabit poe, 4 SFP+. Can't find anything reasonable to replace it.

[@ewenchan1239]

I'm actually about to drop DOWN from a 48-port gigabit switch to an 8-port gigabit switch as a result of a massive server consolidation project for my homelab. 5 NAS systems are being squished down to one, and my gaming system is also being virtualised as well. As a result, and since Proxmox VE 7.3-3 support virtio-fs, I am able to SKIP a lot of the network altogether and have direct host access for the VMs that need and/or want it. Saving a TON of money by NOT building out my networking infrastructure.

[@MelroyvandenBerg]

I need this switch as well! I'm living in Europe. So not only ship it to USA, but also EU plz!

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

Good point

[@SpencerHHO]

I wish TPlink had something similar to this in their Omada lineup. I'd love to give Omada a try but unless you are spending well over a grand here you only get SFP and 1GBE. I don't even mind the gigabit RJ45 ports I just want SFP+ uplinks, even just 2 SFP+uplinks and like 8 ports poe for less than a grand with Omada support would be aweseome for setting up APs. The only products like what you described that I know of are some hella expensive Unifi switches.

[@T0X1C89]

TP-Link TL-SG3210XHP-M2 8 2.5G POE+ and 2 10G SFP+ Omada Integrated and $400 on Amazon

[@MAD20248]

there's another tp link switch on AliExpress , TL-SE2420 , 16 2.5g, 4 10g sfp managed. i need a managed switch , will it work in the usa? what do you think about it ?

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

I think Rohit has one that is similar 16x 2.5GbE or 24x 2.5GbE and SFP+ from Amazon. Testing is underway.

[@MAD20248]

@@ServeTheHomeVideo do you have a link ? can't find any Rohit switches

[@StopaskingformynameYouTube]

Not only the US market, we need them in EU aswell! I want 2.5G but i can't afford it.

[@mrmotofy]

Stick with 10Gb, buy used off Ebay for much less frequently. With NAS and multigig internet rolling out all over. I'm seeing adds for 10G internet and Redditors saving they have it....2.5G is already outdated. They're just trying to sell more products, stick with industry Standard 10Gb

[@Andrew_Thrift]

Mikrotik.... Wakey wakey

[@davidfarning8246]

I appreciate the 2.5Gb and 10Gb low cost switch round up, including power consumption. They are starting to become cost effective solutions for small and home offices that use a NAS as a central storage point.

[@khoabui7766]

Good stuff is never come to U.S. market.IDK Why?

[@kelownatechkid]

ah, unmanaged. Too bad

[@deadlymarsupial1236]

The only reason I could think why a multinational corporation would restrict a product geographically would be for test marketing and to see how the product performs 'in the wild'. The heat concerns are a relevant engineering issue so it will be interesting to see how the longevity is impacted on switches deployed in demanding environments. If this thing had cooling option. management and layer-2 functionality such as vlans it would be the default choice for a core switch. The only reason why makers don't integrate into all their products optional expansion for cooling, redundant psu's I can think of is to sell more gear.

[@sluflyer06]

It's only 17 watts, why are you worried about cooling? Fanless is a huge draw for a lot of tho this switch interests, this isn't meant for a sitting in a server room under heavy load, it's a low power unmanaged switch

[@DigitalSteel]

TP-Link makes an Omada managed switch, the TL-SG3210XHP-M2 that has (8) 2.5G rj45 PoE+ and (2) SFP+ ports for around $400 which is the closest thing I can find. I really wish the price would come down though. Something with 2.5G with or without PoE++ and SFP+ is the one piece of networking hardware I have been hunting forever to try and get and can not seem to find these features for a good value

[@mistakek]

You are not alone in the hunt. Really want 4-8 x 2.5Gb and a couple 10Gb ports with vlan support for a reasonable price.

[@xenio8736]

@@mistakek And did you find what you were looking for ? I think I'll end up with a 8 ports sfp+ switch and a 2.5GbE POE with double sfp+ uplink Both are quite inexpensive on aliexpress

[@mistakek]

@@xenio8736 Are you talking about the Hasivo ones? I was excited about those until I saw a comment about it resetting the IP upon reboot. That would be annoying.

[@fkhg1]

add some poe+ and i will buy it

[@sayemprodhanananta144]

Certification and taxes

[@MatthewWeiler1984]

That switch would be amazing.

[@PAPO1990]

Love it, I don’t have much use for that many 10Gb SFP ports, and it’s a little pricey, but this would be a perfect home upgrade. I want to 10Gb much of the house, at least for the uplinks to most switches. This would let me do it with fiber, and have a bunch of space to spare. Just need to get my hands on one, looking like $750 Australian at the moment 😩

[@eliotrulez]

To Europe too please :)

[@marcogenovesi8570]

Hm, so they are using the same board of the managed one, but the maangement chip is not populated

[@Juncti]

What's the closest competitor to this switch on the US market at the moment?

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

There really are not any that are like this. That is why I am asking to have this made for the US.

[@LiLBitsDK]

hopeless to get still but the TL-SG3428X-M2 is "almost" there but only 4x 10G ports but it is MANAGED... and there is a POE version too for nearly double the price with 500W POE total but 4 ports 10G is okay would have been sweet with the 8 ports...

[@YLCGUK]

It's a unicorn!

[@denesk2794]

For my home use, I would throw 2 Zyxel 12 port -> 1 SFP+, 1 10Gb copper, 2x 2.5Gb on top of each other, link it to my existing gigabit Zyxel, link the 2 units via SFP and call it a day for 2x 239.99 Web managed, and Zyxel's interface is usually decent. Of course, depending on what you need, I only have 3 PCs with 2.5 ports, so realistically 1 + my existing switch would be OK (also linked via SFP) ps: I wouldn't buy an unmanaged switch ... There is little I need from a switch at home, but the lack of vlan's is not something I can live with (2 fibre connections for house/office and IOT Lan has to be separated ... yes yes ... could be a firewall device as well but so easy to do on a single switch ... )

[@Boxcarphilly]

I clicked on the link to see the Ali-Express listing, nowhere on their page does it say the actual model name. Not even on the switch itself. The one demod in this video, the model name is just to the right of the TP-Link name. It's blank on Ali-Express website.

[@hanskaiser6363]

Do you have any information about the TL-SG3428X-M2. It should be quite similar except having 4 SFP+ ports less but in addition is managed. Could not find any reviews or tests about that switch - in the EU it cost around 450€ and it therefore not as cheap as the Chinese switches you tested but also not as expensive as the other brands.

[@dupajasio4801]

This is stupid. Why would one reject the opportunity of being screwed by Cisco and pay $600 per 1 gigabit port ? It's managed and so much slower. But that logo! Man, that costs soo much to produce. And the joy of some licensing crap they throw at you. You can't buy a Cisco switch without a software license you never gonna use. Genius !

[@hankhulator5007]

Don't ever forget the agents' pay for stuffing the firmware of your nice Crisco switch on site ! 😋

[@janciupka6394]

Now that hardware with management capabilities would be perfect. Does anyone know if a comparable option exists?

[@danjw1]

I you love to buy a switch like this in the US market!

[@bjornroesbeke]

It shouldn't take THAT much intelligence to add VLAN support and a simple management interface, or does it? PoE is of lesser importance, i've yet to see an IP camera or phone needing more than 10 Mbit.

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

WiFi 6E is where you start wanting 2.5GbE as a backhaul, so PoE++ is useful. Passing VLAN tags is a basic function, but you would need a managed switch to setup VLANs.

[@billvoltmer2569]

One or the other? Why not put LEDs on the ports and duplicate them off to the side?

[@billkillernic]

Make it managed with PoE+ at least and at least half of the 2,5g ports and have it under 500 please :D

[@GeoffSeeley]

I'm pretty sure you probably answered your own question. Certifications in North America will require specific design requirements and money, etc. I don't know the regulations for China, but I'm guessing they aren't as strict so it's probably cheaper to market. They are likely also targeting a market in China that now has had a void caused by NA trade restrictions, etc.

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

I totally agree, but you drive more volume by having one model sold worldwide with multiple certifications. TP-Link is a brand sold in the US. Also, why do other vendors not create a version for the US/EU markets like this one.

[@rodfer5406]

US gov?

[@essdee800]

"Suddenly I wonder how the performance graph is measured. Is there a place where the testing methodology is explained? What happens if all 2.5Gbit ports try to send data to one of the 10Gbit ports simultaneously? Do they each get a fair share of bandwidth? Are packets dropped? What about average and tail latency? What is the longest round trip when the switch is loaded? What happens if each 2.5Gbit port is paired with another 2.5Gbit and each 10 Gbit port is paired with a 10Gbit port and bidirectional communication bandwidth measured between the pairs? What about tail latency in this case? What happens if each port as simultaneously as possible sends data in turn to all of the others? Is this much different than the case when the data flows only between pairs of ports? Given the equipment and switches available, it would be great to develop some tests that might characterize performance between switches in a more distinctive way." -from sth website comments

[@bradenmcg]

I would pay like 6-800 for this with L2 manageability and PoE+ (don't even need ++/bt) on the RJ45 ports.

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

PoE++ makes running decent WiFi 6E APs more realistic.

[@MoraFermi]

I wonder if some patents are involved in making cheap 2.5Gb switches unviable in the US and EU.

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

Realistically, most of these switch chips are Marvell, Broadcom, Realtek. MediaTek has Nephos which is trying to go higher-end in networking as a low cost solution, but it is probably a tier below right now.

[@dyong888]

China is now world leader in innovation and manufacturing. Also they have the market size. So its pretty obvious that China makes for the Chinese market first and foremost to serve their peoples' needs. The amerikans can keep up their trade sanctions, tough talking and resulting high costs. Amerika already lost the innovation edge and doesn't even know it. At least that's true for the 80 year olds running Capitol Hill and passing laws.

[@ComfyMusicWorldwide]

Is out there any good fanless, unmanaged 10 GbE 8x RJ45 switch ?

[@weldchip]

what would be a good recommendation for something like this but managed and with POE?

[@pastasauce99]

Noooooo I just bought a mikrotik css610

[@jgurtz]

Super exciting! If I got one, I probably would do a 80 or 120mm Noctua in a side-flow arrangement in that space behind the PS; easy enough to 3d-print some ducting and some angled mount. By the looks of that switch's mainboard, there's already solder pads for another large asic/cpu, ram, and nvram. Guessing there's an L3-managed version in the works! Guessing as well that it may be all those regs and certs holding it up, takes probably months to get all those rubber stamps and meanwhile, why not make money off the locals? How about a 12+4 version and 8+2 in addition to PoE++ ?

[@blahorgaslisk7763]

Managed switches are great, but nine times out of ten I don't need the management option. A "dumb" switch like this is perfect for a lot of situations but they sure aren't exiting. And that's just it. A unmanaged switch should never be exiting. It should be a boring box that sits in the network closet and you never have to think of except when you run out of ports. Managed switches on the other hand are way to often exiting for all the wrong reassons.

[@MickeyMishra]

14:31 Because our higher ups sent ALL of our Manufacturing overseas. There. I said it.

[@mjmeans7983]

Your assessment of what is and isn't cheap doesn't resonate with me. For it to be cheap it would need to be in the sub $300 range, unless it's a fully managed switch.

[@curtisbme]

Would love if they made this more 'desktop' size so I could put it in my media panel. Always lots of dead space in these rack width units.

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

This comes with four rubber feet and is fanless so you could.

[@AceBoy2099]

I agree about bringing this with poe (and other options, maybe one exactly like this, another with poe, and yet another that then adds management on top of the poe for those that want management; maybe do a similar for smaller variation too like someone else asked for) to the US. I'm sure I'd still think it's too expensive at 5-600 bucks but like you said, you're not wasting ports (space, and additional power) with 15 smaller units to accomplish the same result. Maybe my pfsense/opnsense/etc is all the "management" I need, maybe not!? Personally I'd rather just do MAC management and use "dumb switches", no idea if that's even possible, but yeah...

[@gregwilm9221]

Does anyone have a link for the TL-SH1832 Unable to find any links

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

Did you look in the description?

[@Ghennesph]

do you really need to use link shorteners? it's really unsafe to click even from trusted sources. Thank you for doing isolation testing!

[@alpenfoxvideo7255]

isn’t there some small, basic 4-port 10GbE switch?

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

See our MikroTik CRS305 review for that

[@travelasia2023]

WHY? ... show a switch that no one can buy here? I look at the site mentioned and they to dont show any lisyings at all!

[@jaycahow4667]

Do not see a Fan Header on the board, it would have been nice i they had made provisions for a Fan even if they did not supply one. Prices have dropped some on the Netgear Managed 8 port 1/2.5/5/10Gb with SFP+ MS510TXM switch with Fans to under $400 now..............

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

There is a big difference between 8-port and 32 port switches though.

[@jaycahow4667]

@@ServeTheHomeVideo 10 port vs 32 port with 6 10Gb ports compared to 4 10Gb with 4 being RG45 and 2 being SFP+ so more configuration options plus it is fully managed. Yes it would be a much better buy sub $300 but most people do not need anywhere near 24 2.5Gb ports...........

[@doradeutsch2340]

I want this with 24 1G Ports and 8 SFP+ Ports for $350

[@Sylvan_dB]

My main home switch is only gigabit, so showing its age. But I gotta have vlans :(

[@MMISize]

you lost me at tp-link

[@AinzOoalG0wn]

whats wrong with tplink?

[@gabest4]

Don't you still have that 25% import tariff from China?

[@marcin_karwinski]

Weird thing is, this week several TP-Link european distributors reached back with an info that TL-SH1832 is bound for European distribution in 24Q1... I really hope they finally get this to the rest of the world... maybe even in a managed variant as well, as a "better" version of TL-SG3428X-M2...

[@eilanbarak]

I realize it is not 2,5 GB, but what about the Aruba 1930 series. From 8 to 48 port, and is POE (optional). and have SFP 10 GB ports on some models. I have the 48 port + 4x10GB ports, no POE and it is silent, no fans. It is an L2 switch, manageable, either by cloud app or manually. They are rather in expensive in comparison to the TP-Link switch.

[@ServeTheHomeVideo]

This one? kzbin.info/www/bejne/hV7TpnVph5qlbdk We are trying to keep the series as 2.5GbE only

[@marcello4258]

24ports unmanaged? Oh lord..

[@geoffstrickler]

Would want 8 POE+/++ ports, and replace two of the SFP+ ports with 10Gbase-T ports. That would allow for a relatively low-cost switch. Would obviously need a heavier duty PS and a couple fans.

[@KrumpetKruncher]

I have a dream that one day soon I'll be able to buy something like this switch on Amazon for $450, a managed version for ~$550, and a POE++ managed version for ~$600-$700

[@jacobmendez]

Would you still recommend this switch? Thinking about grabbing one, but not sure if I should wait for anything incoming or look at other options available today.

[@SmalltimR]

Did you get one? Thinking of getting one also :/

[@shootinputin6332]

Cheaper to just go the full SFP+ setup. Mikrotik switches + Mellanox NICs (2nd hand). That's what I did, anyway.

[@nikize]

If it was managed, would it have IPv6? If not it's just garbage. (Most TP-Links just lack this current internet standard)