Why did This Amp Make Me Cry? I Messed Up on Some things

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@cheapaudioman
@cheapaudioman 10 ай бұрын
Check out ridge.com/cheapaudioman to save up to 20% off!!! The AdvanceParis A10 Classic Made me Cry. Good or Bad. Check out the video to find out
@petelewis-on4lk
@petelewis-on4lk 10 ай бұрын
What turntable is that?
@ShikataGaNai100
@ShikataGaNai100 10 ай бұрын
This Disabled USAF Veteran will be sure to buy this wonderful amplifier...as soon as I win the Lottery. 🙂
@cheapaudioman
@cheapaudioman 10 ай бұрын
@@ShikataGaNai100thanks for your service, brother
@reserva120
@reserva120 10 ай бұрын
Is it true the AF do basic training at the Hilton? Although I’ve heard Marriott works as well! Go Army beat Navy !:):)
@GeirRssaak
@GeirRssaak 10 ай бұрын
@AudioFPP well spoken!
@blazem4780
@blazem4780 10 ай бұрын
This video is exactly why I'm back in the hobby. I've watched many of your videos and I've learned so much about the hobby since the 70's. I went from 2 ch to 7.1 and now I'm going back to 2 ch. The equipment today is different from the past yet the same in other aspects. For instance, pioneer is only home theater now. Music for me IS emotion. I'm slowly building my system and the A10 is in my plans. I understand exactly what your saying and agree 100%.
@kjglijgliugvukygfyfl
@kjglijgliugvukygfyfl 10 ай бұрын
Hi, I work for the UK distributer for Advance Paris. The amp input is to be used if you want to use the amp as a power amp only. Bypassing the pre-amp section. Thank you for the wonderful review. David
@thoaihng
@thoaihng 9 ай бұрын
Do you know if bypassing the pre-amp to use the power amps bypasses the VU meters as well?
@chrisw1462
@chrisw1462 9 ай бұрын
Also, older Tube amps didn't have a 'line out'.
@dazza1976
@dazza1976 6 ай бұрын
I didn't think they had a UK distributor. There's not one on their website. Please let me know where I can get one of these from a proper source in the UK @kjglijgliugvukygfyfl
@angelostsompanidis
@angelostsompanidis 10 күн бұрын
@@thoaihng no, it does not bypass the VU meters.
@jebnagel
@jebnagel 10 ай бұрын
I bought this thing based on your first video. Running the A10 with KEF R3 Metas and a REL T/9x Red Sub. EMOTIONAL is the perfect adjective to describe the sound. I am blown away and unbelievably happy with this Beautiful Piece of Art. Honestly can't conceive ever buying anything other than Advance in the future. Thx Cheap Audio Man, this has been a lifechanger!
@cheapaudioman
@cheapaudioman 10 ай бұрын
Wow! That’s awesome
@jebnagel
@jebnagel 10 ай бұрын
@@cheapaudioman "Under The Milky Way" - The Church......Sublime through the A10
@Totalplonker
@Totalplonker 10 ай бұрын
Wicked setup!! However, if this was my setup and I was thinking of adding... maybe go stereo on the sub. Just the balance of the room, of course.
@Audiomainia2310
@Audiomainia2310 10 ай бұрын
Mine was delivered last week! Had to wait - it was on backorder. This sounds absolutely FANTASTIC! Ran at A bias - cleanest sound I've heard through my KEF Reference 3 / I noticed it can run warm after about 2 hours / now running 4 speakers with two JBL Sub 550P and I'm blown away. CEC so far works flawlessly - can't say thanks enough for this recommendation . More than worth the money, and a beautiful centerpiece. Glad you retracted the phono pre amp review - I've found it to work exceptional for me as well.
@tessie4204
@tessie4204 2 ай бұрын
Do you use the Internal DAC?
@kristophergurley585
@kristophergurley585 10 ай бұрын
Amp in can also be thought of as a home theater bypass. So if you have a music system and a HT system that share the same main speakers you can run pre outs from an AV receiver to the Paris and the amp in bypasses any volume controls.
@thomasarmbruster1743
@thomasarmbruster1743 10 ай бұрын
Amp-out/Pre-in is a break point between the pre and power amp sections, allowing the insertion of other devices into the signal path, such as an equalizer or turbo encabulator.
@doctormidnight
@doctormidnight 10 ай бұрын
That's not possible without a thrust-variable triode wane stabilizer. Everyone knows that.
@NightFlight1973
@NightFlight1973 10 ай бұрын
Wow
@delstone3801
@delstone3801 10 ай бұрын
Yep! Ha ha I just saw this but something like a 901 set up but I have one and wouldn’t recommend those speakers I got them from granddaddy lol and thay sound like it ha ha
@GeirRssaak
@GeirRssaak 10 ай бұрын
Very nice to hear about an encabulator! I love your sense of humor!
@GeirRssaak
@GeirRssaak 10 ай бұрын
@@doctormidnight i love your sense of humor!
@danielwalsh8168
@danielwalsh8168 16 күн бұрын
With gratitude, wishing you and your family a very Merry Christmas.
@cheapaudioman
@cheapaudioman 16 күн бұрын
Thank you so much!!!!
@danielwalsh8168
@danielwalsh8168 16 күн бұрын
Just a phenomenal video...when giving is not a choice but a must-do.
@OldGuyHifi
@OldGuyHifi 10 ай бұрын
I am jealous of that amp. Seriously the emotional aspect is what has kept me in the hobby for 50 years. I am glad that I am not the only one who catches his reflection. LOL. Amp In = Main IN on vintage gear. Great place to put an EQ so it can work with all devices. It separates the Pre-amp from the Amp. Thx my friend.
@corvetteharley7557
@corvetteharley7557 6 ай бұрын
Loved this comment because I like using and equalizer. I have always had a high end system and continue to love tuning the sound with the equalizer....can always hit the bypass button....QUESTION?--Would you take the preout jack and run it through the EQ then return to the amp via the Amp In?
@TheFrugalAudiophile
@TheFrugalAudiophile 10 ай бұрын
I remember when I first sat down and listened to my Aperion intimus T5 speakers connected to a decent Emotiva amplifier. It was like an otherworldly experience. I was listening to music late into the night!
@randymackenzie8863
@randymackenzie8863 10 ай бұрын
The Outlaw RR2160 has 20 settings for balance control. It is actually a 2 channel receiver since it has a tuner, but it sounds better than my Yamaha AS-701 integrated. It is $1,000 and also includes bass management. You may want to check it out.
@mbvx7
@mbvx7 10 ай бұрын
Even Stereophile Magazine liked the Outlaw. I'd like to hear one
@randymackenzie8863
@randymackenzie8863 10 ай бұрын
It is a fantastic amplifier. It beats my Yamaha in every way. It isn't even close. For $1,000 I doubt there is anything that can touch it.
@jordanschooley7836
@jordanschooley7836 10 ай бұрын
I’d be interested to know how Outlaw products compare to Emotiva.
@alanwigodner5811
@alanwigodner5811 10 ай бұрын
I Agee. I’ve owned one for several years and think it is one of the best values in audio. The owner of Ohm speaker company uses it to demonstrate his high end speakers.
@alanwigodner5811
@alanwigodner5811 10 ай бұрын
It also has a heavy metal remote that is backlit.
@ThePgkessler
@ThePgkessler 10 ай бұрын
Randy, thanks for sharing your experience so candidly. it made my heart smile. It's about art; art as a language to connect us to our emotions. Appreciate you brother. *That*is what the hobby really is about. I'm currently running a pair of limited edition Ohm Walsh 5.5000s. Its a big tall ceiling living room, and the speakers are remarkable...but insensitive at 87db @ 2.8V 6 Ohms , so they need a little juice to get the most out of them. (If you have never had a chance to hear ANY Ohm Walsh speakers ( vintage or not) seek them out). I'm thinking of trying out an Advance Paris A12 since it provides a bit more current, but then that emotional impact milage may vary. So You have convinced me to debut both the A10 and A12. Good Listening!
@formerhobbit5599
@formerhobbit5599 10 ай бұрын
Hey Randy, I watched the Les Miserable 35th anniversary performance on Sunday evening. It was an over the air antenna broadcast from a PBS. Listened through my Marantz slimline AVR and Polk R200 speakers. When Alfie Boe sang Bring Him Home I cried like a baby. Wow! Yeah, it doesn't necessarily require high dollar equipment to elicit an emotional response. Its all in the performance.
@marks-the-spot
@marks-the-spot 10 ай бұрын
The Outlaw Audio RR2160 MKII doesn't have HDMI, but otherwise nearly matches the A10 classic for inputs. I've only had it for a week, but it has significantly improved the overall sound quality from my KEF LS50's versus the Yamaha R-N500 it replaced. Combined with the excellent audio and video from Jazz at Lincoln Center's live stream channel "JazzLive" the music delivers real emotional responses, cold chills abound. It is my favorite music source.
@Simon_Hawkshaw
@Simon_Hawkshaw 10 ай бұрын
Well what you need is the Sith Audio high adsorption, lint free, audiophile tear elimination tissues, as do I, when you mentioned the price. Oh well, I will continue to vicariously enjoy this amazing equipment through your videos and passion. Thank you as always for your time, efforts,and great review of this equipment. Stay well, Sir.
@johnfisher3929
@johnfisher3929 10 ай бұрын
Those tear elimination tissues from Sith really work. I replaced all my Kleenex months ago!
@stephenbarr2735
@stephenbarr2735 10 ай бұрын
I discovered a wonderful synergy from my system when I connected a pair of JBL 4311A speakers. All of a sudden streaming and vinyl both sounded great to me. Marantz 2238B+Pioneer PL-518+WiiM Mini AirPlay2+Geshelli Labs J2+JBL 4311
@onnoschmidt2859
@onnoschmidt2859 10 ай бұрын
I have an AdvancedParis A10 classic for a while now, and was on the verge of selling it, and I am really glad I didn't. My main reason is that we wanted to redo our living room and the idea was to place an amp in a cabinet. It tuned out this wasn't a real good idea. So we got another cabinet in which I can place the A10 nicely and still has enough space on the edges (thanks to IKEA). The change of the living room had so much impact on the sound quality that I really get this same feeling. Its simply gorgeous. I have it paired with a set of Dali Rubicon 2 and a project carbon turntable with a Hagerman Bugle pre-amp. I also have The same feeling you describe I get with David Bowie live in glastonbury 2000 on vinyl.
@stulevine
@stulevine 10 ай бұрын
"Amp In" is for using an external pre-amp, I use this same "Amp In" connection on my McIntosh MA6500. I go direct with my SMSL DO200 DAC, bypassing the amps preamp since the latter has volume control and frankly sounds a bit better without the MA6500's pre-amp.
@thornwithin6195
@thornwithin6195 10 ай бұрын
Awesome video! Now the P-X700 pre-amp comparison from Advance Paris would be awesome! Thanks again for looking at this Manufacturer!
@trudimcleod5042
@trudimcleod5042 10 ай бұрын
The one amp that comes close in terms of power, inputs and features is the Outlaw RR2160 II. It is a class A/B receiver (it has a radio) but not tubes or HDMI inputs.
@adsph
@adsph 10 ай бұрын
I enjoyed your revisit here Randy. Happy your system has that kind of synergy. Keep being authentic you.
@2023C8HTC
@2023C8HTC 8 ай бұрын
I bought the A12 and it's a beast.A smooth beast!Definately sounds old school A&B with tube smoothness.
@MJ-ge6jz
@MJ-ge6jz 10 ай бұрын
I got an emotional moment when I upgraded my pre-amp tubes ordered from Russia. I was listening to Nobody's Fault in FLAC 192 bit sampling from the Beck Album Mutations. The A10 hit a home run mixing Pre-amp tubes with an A/B amp. Best of both worlds.
@GiguereSylvain
@GiguereSylvain 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the nice Beck's music suggestion. I added it to my list of 'must find' 🎶
@angelostsompanidis
@angelostsompanidis 10 күн бұрын
Did you upgrade the tubes of A10? May i ask what tubes you replaced these with?
@adrianfisher9641
@adrianfisher9641 10 ай бұрын
Aww don’t be like that! We all get emotionally connected to stuff. It’s normal and natural. This guy is in touch with his audience and started off being honest and he still is. What I love about his reviews is he reviews his reviews, watch and learn….. no really!
@tolmiestreet
@tolmiestreet 5 ай бұрын
I had that experience recently with an NEC A 10X solid state integrated from the early 90’s… remarkable… it’s by no means perfect - but the emotional reach is intoxicating. Even though it has some obvious drawbacks in my system - I love it. I can’t let go of it.
@tomprice2407
@tomprice2407 10 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@leegill2427
@leegill2427 10 ай бұрын
And this is why we love you Randy, you clearly put your heart and soul into what you do. I was very moved seeing you get emotional. For me music has always been deeply emotional, I can sob like a baby sometimes, music is both therapeutic and mood matching. I'm a metal head like you and I could list a million songs that get me like that...👍
@dizzle1119
@dizzle1119 10 ай бұрын
The A10 Classic is on my short list. I'm a vacuum tube stereo preamp away from where I wanna be...and I'm willing to spend the extra scratch for the A10 Classic over something like the Freya+ from Schiit for "the looks". I love that thick glass face plate on the Advance Paris. Also, it's as close to a McIntosh as I'm ever gonna get.
@klinkfoto
@klinkfoto 10 ай бұрын
I own the Vincent SV-228 hybrid integrated amp. Same price and almost the same power as the A10. Tubes in the pre-amp section and solid state in the power amp section. The Vincent has a fantastic Burr-Brown DAC built in. This is an amp just like the A10 for emotional listening sessions. A comparison of the two hybrid amps would be interesting. Vincent is a German company.
@ginom407
@ginom407 10 ай бұрын
Music IS the universal language. Every culture going as far back as history allows had some form of music be it instrumental or vocal. It really is about the emotion! Just hearing a certain song or lyric can take you back in time to a place or event that impacted you in any of many ways. We've all had those moments, and that's what makes this hobby great! Bravo Randy!!! 👍👍👍
@housemartinez
@housemartinez 10 ай бұрын
I recently had a similar moment. I was all about budget components before my current setup. It's not the greatest system around, but it was a substantial upgrade for me. I went from a budget SMSL amp pushing a pair of budget ELACs off Spotify to a Marantz integrated, Marantz CD player and Denon turntable with an AT cartridge running a pair of Focal bookshelfs and an Infinity sub. I was randomly playing CDs I picked up at the thrift store. I started playing a B.B. King disc and was blown away. It was a great experience, and I thought that I could keep this system forever and be perfectly happy without ever upgrading again.
@dazza1976
@dazza1976 8 күн бұрын
Spent an hour with the A10 Classic in a demo today. Spectacular. The instrument separation really got my attention. I put a couple of tracks from the Nirvana Unplugged album on and the instruments and vocals were placed exactly where the band were sitting. Cobain's vocals were slightly forward as was his seat during the performance. Pat Smear's guitar was behind it to the left, as he was when he was playing. I'm getting a demo of the Cambridge Evo 150 tomorrow but it will have to do something truly remarkable for me to choose it over the A10.
@kevinl3892
@kevinl3892 10 ай бұрын
Im planning on running both the Akitika pre-amp and amplifier with the j2s with the upgraded 9399 chip set and the wem pro. Would these separates be a better sound then this Integrated amplifier? Im thinking about getting two amps to better power my speakers. Im gonna run the kef ls50 meta's. Thank you for your imput really enjoy your channel.
@cheapaudioman
@cheapaudioman 10 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for supporting the channel. “Better” is very subjective. With that said I think the akitika stuff with the J2 is going to have better separation and resolution
@kevinl3892
@kevinl3892 10 ай бұрын
@@cheapaudioman cool beans, yeah I'm rocking an fosi bt20 pro with upgraded sparko op amps currently. I'm pretty happy with that so far. Ok thanks for the response take care
@DavidAlexander9999
@DavidAlexander9999 10 ай бұрын
Hi: I believe that the Amp in (next to the pre out) is to bypass the preamp section to use as an amplifier.
@mehbubg
@mehbubg 10 ай бұрын
Often called “Main In” in the old days
@ballstadt
@ballstadt 10 ай бұрын
Guessing they could also be used together as an effects loop to use an external EQ or something similar.
@mph7282
@mph7282 5 ай бұрын
@@mehbubg Almost all integrated amps have this feature, no? At least they used to. They used to have jumpers between the two, some still do.
@Ratboy1
@Ratboy1 10 ай бұрын
I am so thrilled that you have emotionally connected with the musicality of a component. That it is an integrated amp is very special. 🎶
@christianwilliamson9752
@christianwilliamson9752 10 ай бұрын
I have to say. My British grandparents had a Telefunken console system with the built in speakers. That thing had great sound and went very loud had to be from late 50s early 60s
@onceuponatime70
@onceuponatime70 10 ай бұрын
The amp-in input is for connecting an external preamplifier to the A10 classic. You will need to go in the menu and engage the Amp in setting.
@fofocho71
@fofocho71 10 ай бұрын
AMP IN is to connect an AV Receiver and use the A10 as power amp (HT Bypass). But you have to enter in the menu to enable it so it is not very convenient
@toddjones9715
@toddjones9715 2 ай бұрын
You won me over, I just got the A10 Classic and it's sounds awesome. The only thing that I wish it had was a bluetooth connection. You have to buy it separately. I don't care the emotion this integrated amp brings is totally worth it.
@melvinberrian153
@melvinberrian153 7 ай бұрын
I'm actually trying to decide between the Advance Paris A-12 Clasdic and a Yamaha R-N 2000A. They are both about the same price. I have no where local to me to audition the Advance Paris.
@trucchuong1726
@trucchuong1726 9 ай бұрын
This’s one of your best videos! Thanks for sharing your connection and emotional feeling to great music, which we’re all in love with this hobby, enjoy more gears and music, and have a great day Sir!
@mladenbasic1
@mladenbasic1 10 ай бұрын
Pre-out to external processor, eq, crossover, etc. loop back to power amp in. Ideally for running a high pass filter on the amp to reduce the bass load on the amp and speakers when using a subwoofer.
@chiphill4856
@chiphill4856 2 ай бұрын
Great channel! It's all about the music! I'm an old time hifi stereo guy, so I combine vintage stuff with modern sources. Thx!
@DonDayR
@DonDayR 9 ай бұрын
It's 2005 and it's a try or give up moment in my audio journey. I had no idea what a truly good sound stage could be like. I had never experienced tight bass, sibilent highs, or quiet passages without hiss. I have hooked up my new cheap plastic Sonic Impact T-amp to the recommended speakers, BIC America venturi bookshelves. I start playing Jennifer Warne's Rock You Gently, and I cry with emotional joy. You can't take that moment away from me.
@justme25533
@justme25533 10 ай бұрын
Great video. You had three thumbs up from the intro alone. AC/DC, A10 Warthog and an off color joke. Then you got a bunch more. Thanks
@CotesDuQ
@CotesDuQ 10 ай бұрын
AMP IN - From the manual: If you only want to use the power amplifier section of your A12 Classic, you can connect another preamplifier or audio mixer on L/R AMP. IN jacks.
@leeg7106
@leeg7106 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing the video!! Your insight is appreciated. The first time I had that emotional factor, was not too soon after I a few years ago I went from a vinyl collector with an ok set up to aiming at something that could possibly sound better… I went from a pioneer system to a solid state McIntosh and Solid state C29 preamp…But had a pair of Klipsch heresy 1’s a bought from an estate sale for nearly nothing… One day someone local was selling a pair of Tannoy Mk2 611 speakers, and I decided to spin Ben Webster “Atmosphere for lovers” Album, Parlophone’s 1st re-issue of the album on thier label. …When it played through those speakers I was in complete Woa, and wow, I’ve never heard such an intimate musical sound like this, the textures of his horn, the separation and holographic realism. I have my favs but I tend to return to this one so much, and share it to others when they 1st hear my system, and tend to get the same reactions.
@Apocrypha303
@Apocrypha303 10 ай бұрын
I'm so happy with the smsl su-1! Have it going to some cheap $30 amazon headphone amp. I use usb to listen to music on my pc, and coax to listen to cd's on my 1999 sony dvd player. Only paid $67 for the su-1 last black friday. The music sounds so much better than it did when my headphones were plugged into my yeti mic. Thanks for the content.
@slerched
@slerched 10 ай бұрын
Sounds... like this would sound awesome. The only thing I can't get over is the tubes. I know some people love them and claim the sound is so much warmer or whatever with them. But I don't want to deal with swapping and them going bad or feeling like I need to roll them to find ones I like only to find out 12 months later the ones I love are EOL and forever sold out, making me roll again. I know. Probably would not happen that way but I already spend too much on this hobby so I have to have some limit. I guess. Until I don't.... 😅
@ThatHiFiMania
@ThatHiFiMania 10 ай бұрын
Same way I feel about my Sourcepoint 10’s. As soon as I hooked them up and threw some tunes on. I knew they were staying!!!
@welderfixer
@welderfixer 10 ай бұрын
Randy, Being hit with emotion by certain music recordings and gear combos - - - - - - yeah I get it! Been there and I hope I find those moments over and over again. Thanks for leading us to great gear at good prices. All the very best to you and yours, Kevin
@onceuponatime70
@onceuponatime70 10 ай бұрын
A lot of comments say that you can use EQ between the pre-out and amp-in connectors. Actually you can't. The Amp in is selected in the menu and the amplifier goes into power amp mode and receives signal ONLY from the amp in input. That's it. Therefore you can only use an external pre-amp or use it in a HT-bypass situation when the Amp-in is engaged.
@bpalpha
@bpalpha 10 ай бұрын
Well, best competing products for this are a Yamaha A-S1200, the elderly Rotel RA-1572mk2, and Marantz Model 40n all at about the same prices. The A10 does have incredible connectivity. Pricey range with a lot of competing amplifiers. Hifi gets religious sometimes...gives you the feelies. 🙂
@OS_SWE
@OS_SWE 22 күн бұрын
Hey. Late comment here. I've been interested in this for a long time now and after watching this, I went out and picked one up (the A12). And holy hell. This is insane. Truly insane. I can't stop listening to this thing! Paired with a fully upgraded LP12 with the Ortofon Cadenza Black, step up transformer into a Lehmann Black Cube SE... It's audio heaven, truly! So, thank you man, for giving me the nudge! Zero regrets on this.
@skaerber1767
@skaerber1767 10 ай бұрын
I love the two months later format, but saving for the equipment you keep is perfect. I am glad you found something makes you happy.
@simonh9806
@simonh9806 9 ай бұрын
Great video! Amp in bypasses volume control/pre amp, makes it a power amp
@jfr1907
@jfr1907 10 ай бұрын
Randy I am eternally grateful that my dedicated viewership caught you when you went over the Amators, because I scooped a pair up with a quickness. A little hard to find, but oh man after three weeks they are just so amazing in every way! Then of course right after I had to buy a REL T7X to get a little more bass in the room. I kinda ran out of money, so luckily my Marantz 8006 throws out 100w in 4 ohms for the Sonus Fabers... This is a sweet amp the Paris, but I probably need to stop where I am because my Marantz is feeding the Amators just right. Italian craftsmanship for the win. Thank you so much, you made a big difference!!!
@limulus61
@limulus61 10 ай бұрын
As Frank Zappa said in Joe's Garage: "It looks like a Telefunken U47. You'll love it!"
@dennistimmerman1796
@dennistimmerman1796 10 ай бұрын
Not everyone will get the reference, but that’s hilarious.
@FZappaFan1
@FZappaFan1 10 ай бұрын
But some will.😉
@psyphonyxaudio
@psyphonyxaudio 10 ай бұрын
Cy Borg - Best song ever.
@takeiteasy6154
@takeiteasy6154 10 ай бұрын
Brilliant, remembering that, lol
@GeirRssaak
@GeirRssaak 10 ай бұрын
Zappa was outstanding!!!
@michaelwright1602
@michaelwright1602 7 ай бұрын
I feel the same about my ToneWinner AD-2PRO+ integrated amp. I have no clue what they did internally to this amp, but there is a reason it is compared to amps int that $10,000• range.
@stanmanmedia
@stanmanmedia 10 ай бұрын
Great thing to have emotion about stuff. The Kinks song, "Little bit of emotion" made that point well.
@clivenixon740
@clivenixon740 Ай бұрын
Love this channel. It is informative and entertaining. I purchased the Advance Paris A10 Amplifier and found the sound to be, what another reviewer described as, "gentle". So, I bypassed the pre-amp and what a difference. Used a Wiim Pro Plus streamer to feed the "amp in" via the very competent SMSL DO100 digital to analogue converter. The result is a dynamic detailed sound with a punchier base and a cleaner top end. I have a pair of Klipsch RF7 speakers which can be a bit harsh particularly with female voices. This is why I though the tube pre-amp in the A10 would help. However prior to purchasing the amplifier I added acoustic dampening material to the tweeter horns, and now they sound sweet without the need of tubes to roll off the top end. I would be interested in hearing your thoughts and experience using the Amp-in to bypass the tube pre-amp.
@billmankin6204
@billmankin6204 10 ай бұрын
This is why I watch this channel, that's all I need to say. Thank you Randy.
@joelfields9106
@joelfields9106 9 ай бұрын
my favorite amp designer, Nelson Pass says to buy the amp that makes you happy, it sounds like you found the amp that makes you happy
@Echohb
@Echohb 8 ай бұрын
The AMP IN enigma resolved : From "PRE OUT'' to your favorite amplifier so that you can benefit from the tube preamp of this amp on your favorite amp. From your favorite preamp to the ''AMP IN'' so that your can by-pass the tube preamp and still get any preamp to play throught that amp stage. Just like and effect loop on a guitar amp you can also put any device between the preamp and the amp...
@jamesvozar1
@jamesvozar1 10 ай бұрын
I became emotional when i first hooked up my smsl c100 with vintage Rotal amp and Elac monitors, and amazon lossless, it was overwhelming.
@ognewb
@ognewb 10 ай бұрын
“Amp In” is normal to use a different preamp with the internal amp, or for HT bypass possibly.
@Brian_Romska
@Brian_Romska 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Randy! I’d love an amp like this one day, super cool to see you really really enjoy yourself there! 😢 Also, good (bad) joke but that thumbnail is the best part, obviously 😉😉 . and Daniel Craig is probably my fav bond but all the previous guys did a great job and I still love the classics as much as the new movies. Keep up the great work, cya soon!!!
@johnfisher3929
@johnfisher3929 10 ай бұрын
For me, the emotion has ALWAYS come from the music. Maybe the gear helps, but if the music is good, that is all that matters. I can listen on a transistor radio from 1962 and be happy! Very happy! And if the music is no good, it doesn’t matter if you’re playing it on a $200k system. Gear is fun. Music is life.
@shaunyweaver1144
@shaunyweaver1144 10 ай бұрын
I used the topping pre90 into the xa 160 evo Advance Paris, something special happened, for the first time along time, the hairs on my arms stood to attention . (Wimm pro smsl do400 atc scm 11)
@vampireau
@vampireau 10 ай бұрын
I use my A10 as the external amp for my home theater main speakers, thus the Amp IN through which my HT receiver controls the volume of the A10. The wireless module is sold separately and you can add Bluetooth support through it. Got mine for 1,200 used, great deal tbh.
@fofocho71
@fofocho71 10 ай бұрын
I was considering the A10 to connect my AV Receiver and use it as power amp for my front speakers. But AMP IN has to be manually engaged (nothing in the remote controller). Don’t you find it a bit inconvenient?
@vampireau
@vampireau 10 ай бұрын
@@fofocho71 You are right, it is inconvenient, unfortunately. I have no clue why they didn't put a menu button on the remote. But I usually listen to atmos music, so I don't have to switch it very often when I want to listen to CDs without going through the receiver. But if you are asking about switching to AMP IN everytime you turn the A10 on, then you don't have to. It stays in AMP IN mode until you turn it off manually.
@fofocho71
@fofocho71 10 ай бұрын
Thanks. In my case I would be using 50% with AV Receiver (AMP IN) and 50% with a streamer (volume control needed). This situation is dangerous if I forget to disable AMP IN and I listen to the streamer as it would blow my speakers. Many stereo amplifiers have a dedicated HT Bypass (AMP IN) input and only in this input volume control is bypassed. But the A10 is “all AMP IN” or nothing
@vampireau
@vampireau 10 ай бұрын
@@fofocho71 the only consolation I can offer is that when you have the AMP IN option enabled, it says it on the display until you disable it, so you always know if it is on or off at first glance.
@ThatHiFiMania
@ThatHiFiMania 10 ай бұрын
These Advance Paris integrated amps are so amazing to look at and to me that is a huge part of the experience. Only issue I have for example the A12 which is the model up from this. When I’m paying over 4k after taxes for an audio piece, I’d prefer it to not contain any particle board on it. Not a huge deal but the back, why not just make it metal? I’m going to check these out in a couple of weeks when they are in stock locally though as they just look too good to not check out at least. Amp in is the same as Main in. For using an external preamp and this as the amp.
@joeythedime1838
@joeythedime1838 6 ай бұрын
The back of the A10 and A12 are metal. But for the highest build quality - you need to go to the Advance Paris X-i1100. It's a beast with an full aluminum case. Cost is about 3,100 Euro's in Europe.
@ryanfitzpatrick3256
@ryanfitzpatrick3256 10 ай бұрын
New old stock Telefunken tubes are super rare and have great tone/timbre. Not to be confused with reissued. One way to identify real macoy's is a black diamond imprint stamped on the base of the tube. Expensive because they are rare. Tube rolling is it's own rabbit hole.
@fabieneldridge3414
@fabieneldridge3414 10 ай бұрын
I’ll be checking that Amp out. Looks fantastic and sounds like it has everything but the kitchen sink. Very nice !
@robertisbell3262
@robertisbell3262 10 ай бұрын
Quoting Tom Petty. “Music is probably the one real magic I have encountered in my life. There's not some trick involved with it. It's pure and it's real. It moves, it heals, it communicates and does all these incredible things.” If music is magic, the gear we find is our alchemist. Thanks Randy
@gewamser
@gewamser 10 ай бұрын
This was a great video. Too bad the previous commenter didn’t watch it!! Here’s why: you hit the nail on the head about home audio. Thing is: you can have the same experience in the car, or from an old boombox around a campfire, or from a live band…IF ANY type of art, from music to poetry to paintings to comedy MOVE YOU EMOTIONALLY…to laugh, cry or fill your imagination, then you KNOW its good! I hear The Beatles 1/2 speed masters on a $50,000 stereo and I was amazed. But I heard it on my paltry $5000 stereo and was also moved. Saw The Doors play Light my fire live, wow! But I still get worked up when it comes over the car radio. Even if I think about “The End” by the Doors…it moves me beyond belief…due to the Vietnam connection. Ever go to a great art gallery and find yourself staring at a painting for a long time that “tells you a story”? Whenever I hear some of Robbie Robertsons contemporary Native American music it makes me very emotional because half my family is Native American…and I get it! Mozart….enough said. And yea, I loved AC/DC live back in the 70’s….then, I got them too! Isn’t it afterall, being an audiophile really all about communication? Just what you attempt to do on your channel. I actually followed some of your advice on purchases, and so far, am very happy. And on at least one suggestion, it turned out way better than you realize. Let’s face it, you did all of this just to get yourself a kick ass system! 😂😂😎
@MrBonger88
@MrBonger88 10 ай бұрын
I know the feeling. It’s the number one requirement of any system/component I own that it connects emotionally. If it doesn’t then I don’t want it. For me, a tube preamp with a solid state amp and huge horns usually help
@m4nc1n1
@m4nc1n1 10 ай бұрын
$2500 is a lot, but my Marantz MM8077 was also $2500, replacing four Emotiva A-300s (2ch) Amps. It was worth every penny. The dynamics you get from a high-quality Amp are mind-blowing. I thought the Emotiva's were good, and for the money, they are, but the Marantz blew them away. It was so much better than the Emotiva that it changed how I used my system. Before, I had always used Audyssey Multi EQ and Dynamic EQ. Now I just set distance and delay. If I turn on Audyssey now, it actually sounds worse. I have 15+ years of using Marantz Receivers/Pre-Amps, and this is the first time I do not have to use any of the Audyssey settings (also the first time I bought a high-end Amp to match). The only thing that changed was the Amp.
@DeMorcan
@DeMorcan 10 ай бұрын
Music does not exist in a vaccuum. I have memories, experiences, knowledge, nightmares, and dreams. Yesterday I was listening to Lady SIngs the Blues. Mu system is a Parasound 200 with SVS Ultra speakers and a RSL 10S subwoofer Fed by a Wiim Pro and Qutest DAC. It is a budget system and I know every peice could be upgraded. But since I have the Parasound with HPF, there is a synergy here. As I listened to Billie singing the blues, she was out in the room in front of me and I was in a Blues Lounge again, feeling the tradegies she lived. I was not listening to music. I was on a vacation ot another place and time with s special performer sharing her heart with me. When music takes me from my room and life and transports me to another place seen through another eyes, it is emotional. And, the equioment used to get there no longer exists at that time.
@johnfisher3929
@johnfisher3929 10 ай бұрын
You could not be more right!
@SuperMcgenius
@SuperMcgenius 10 ай бұрын
Regarding Pre out/ Amp in: allows Signal processor, external electronic crossover, which would limit low frequency to the main speakers, and then send the signal to a Sub amp.
@philrios6113
@philrios6113 10 ай бұрын
Wow, you get it!! When my equipment plus a perfect song trigger a memory, I sob, plain and simple. That emotion binds my heart to the equipment! That my friends justify the price!!
@gnd144
@gnd144 10 ай бұрын
Loudness button and Tone Controls(Bass&Treble) should be on all integrated amps. It gives the person more options to adjust the sound to the listeners liking. Can''t understand why manufacturers are making them without them,...unless its to cut costs. *Either way, they should be part of any integrated built.
@jdekong3945
@jdekong3945 10 ай бұрын
In the 80’s and 90’s the general consensus was that tone controls affected the sound in a negative way. Though you can tune your system, ie warm amp with bright speakers, i too like tone controls
@gnd144
@gnd144 10 ай бұрын
Its 2024 the bugs are fixed. Marantz 30 or 40 are models that are good examples of today's tech.@@jdekong3945
@craiglarge5925
@craiglarge5925 10 ай бұрын
They want you buy a subwoofer !
@gnd144
@gnd144 10 ай бұрын
@@craiglarge5925 Subs have nothing to do with it. A good system with two subs can still have tone controls so the listeners can adjust treble and bass, gives you more options is the point.
@MichaelLopresto
@MichaelLopresto 10 ай бұрын
Timothy Dalton is criminally underrated as Bond.
@dee1458
@dee1458 10 ай бұрын
Best Bond
@gerlachsieders4578
@gerlachsieders4578 6 ай бұрын
True, as is one timer George Lazenby in On her Majesty's Secret service...
@Music-Tech-Life
@Music-Tech-Life 10 ай бұрын
You got it! All about the emotion. I just made a Playlist a month ago called "Emotion" in Apple Music, Then I stumble on this video. You are the real deal my friend No BS. You know what music is all about.
@alanwigodner5811
@alanwigodner5811 10 ай бұрын
I’m sure this is a fine product. The Outlaw Audio 2160 has much of the same flexibility and good sound for around $1000.00. Just saying if that is more in your budget.
@coolaf186
@coolaf186 10 ай бұрын
This will probably come off as a really ignorant question but, can this receiver be used in a home theater setup? I've fallen in love with it after watching your reviews but it would have to be able to handle movie nights as well as listening to music?
@t.nicklasson6906
@t.nicklasson6906 10 ай бұрын
My Hegel H80, Magnepan LRS and WiiM pro make me tear up rather often, If I’m in the right calm and focused mood. A second hand system I have paid 1200$ for, absolutely amazing. In my mind, room and taste 😄
@drichcymru
@drichcymru 10 ай бұрын
I've been on a quest to replace my 23yr old B&W DM601S3's for a while now and a short amount of time with the Wharfdale Super Denton at the UK Bristol Show last month got me excited. They were hooked up to the similarly priced Audiolab 9000A which got me thinking an amp upgrade might be on the cards too. Your two video's on the A10, same price as Audiolab, really got my attention so as soon as I can demo the Denton's I'll be checking the A10 out too.
@gerginlevent
@gerginlevent 3 ай бұрын
I bought in 2019, Advance-Acoustic x-preamp and A-160 power amp and listen over Advance acoustic K11-S speakers...I surprised with the price/performance ...After 5 years I found a good deal and upgrade my system again with Advance Acoustic X-X-i1100 and XL-500 speakers...I highly recommend the brand..They are really sound fantastic.
@billwoods9302
@billwoods9302 10 ай бұрын
I'm not positive, but the AMP IN terminal is likely a PRE-AMP input, because it is located right next to AMP OUT. The labeling is a little confusing, but those inputs may just be a pre-in/out loop for an EQ, or some other type of signal processor. I love the way the amp looks, but my only concern is if the 190 watts it produces at 4 ohms would be enough to authoritatively drive my Magnepan 1.6 QR's. Overall, revisiting previously reviewed equipment is a good idea Randy. The more time you spend with a component, the more familiar you become with what it offers, and whether or not it holds up over the long term considering its price. This is an endgame product for those on a budget, so it's very important for prospective buyers in that category to know if it's a wise investment.
@WardoUSA
@WardoUSA 10 ай бұрын
So the class A automatically takes over until power needs excess of 20 watts is needed ? The AB takes over? I really like the looks and idea of a tune preamp for music listening. I am curious how it performs compared to low wattage tube amps and other high powered amps.
@PaulClay46masonWV
@PaulClay46masonWV 7 ай бұрын
There's a switch to turn off high bias, meaning that u can run this in A/B all the time or class A for first 20 watts
@DougMcDave
@DougMcDave 10 ай бұрын
Is beautiful! But I just had cataract removal for both eyes. I can not splurge on an expensive electronic now. I can see better, though.
@peterbaugh51
@peterbaugh51 Ай бұрын
Yes, JJ tubes are great at a good price. I use 11 of them. Also, GE JAN 5654W are great preamp tubes in my experience. I thought you did not like tubes? Well, tube preamps Rock. And big expensive tube amps can be a bit of a pain. And heat your room in the summer. I know, I have one. But now using tube preamp into class D power amp. Much cooler, and I think it sounds great. Not missing my all-tube amp a bit right now. Thanks for the video.
@kloug2006
@kloug2006 6 ай бұрын
A few memorable emotional audio moments : - 1985 my first CD player experience, a Pioneer with a Telarc classical recording. - 1986 my first planar magnetic headphones Realistic PRO 30. - 1986 my first NAD amplifier and CD player. - 1986 listening to SONY MDR-V6 in a hifi store. - 1987 my first SEE Revolver turntable with Linn Majik tonearm and Nagaoka cartridge. - 1988 my first Monitor Audio loudspeakers. - 1990 my first KEF loudspeakers with Obelisk amplifier and Micromega CD player. - 1991 listening to DENON AH-D950 in a hifi store. - 1991 listening to Sennheiser Orpheus in a hifi show. - 2005 my second planar magnetic headphones Fostex T50RP Mk2 modded. - 2011 my first dual BA iems JAYS q-JAYS. - 2014 my first electrostatic headphones Koss ESP/950.
@ronboots8525
@ronboots8525 9 ай бұрын
I have the A10 with the Concept 50 of Qacoustic and it is a goosebump set indeed!! I love Ricky Lee Jones on this set and it gives me shivers all the time
@Debord1
@Debord1 3 ай бұрын
AMP in is to you can connect a pre-amp ore a Surround receiver to it, and use it as a power amp. Quite nice, if you also have surround receiver with low power.
@RichardParker-u8t
@RichardParker-u8t 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for this "different" review. As you say, you can't measure the emotional response, when those tingles/tears hit! For me, Mark Knopfler's Going Home Theme, From Local Hero triggers my tingles. When it comes to Bond, it has to be Timothy Dalton. No base management on this amplifier? I hear the Arylic B50 SE has it. How about a review?
@Synthematix
@Synthematix 10 ай бұрын
People might laugh at this but I don’t care, I feel the same way about my Sony STRDB940 cinema amplifier on my Yamaha floor standers whilst listening to to music on my Sony jb930 minidisc recorder, it sounds so damn good, I mean really good, this amp has phenomenal sound quality and power
@RanTausi
@RanTausi 10 ай бұрын
I agree , I have the STR DB830 but after I have connected my ADCOM GFA 545mk2 power amp to the pre out of the Sony now the Bose 501 Mk4 came to a live.
@mikedelara8226
@mikedelara8226 6 ай бұрын
No laughing here... I feel that feeling when I listen to a full blown Sony receiver. I genuinely feel my Sony STR-DA777ES is the best sounding "pre amp/amp" I've ever heard in my life. I have literally shed a tear listening to a special song on this receiver. ✌🏼 Sony ES used to rule.
@Synthematix
@Synthematix 6 ай бұрын
@@mikedelara8226 And me mate, brought a tear to my eyes a few times, especially Kraftwerks 'Planet of visions' QS and ES are both phenomenal, i produce my own DTS 5.1 music and this DB940 has such a powerful and full bodied sound i havent heard any other match it for surround music.
@Synthematix
@Synthematix 6 ай бұрын
@@RanTausi Yes and quite a few bose speakers can be quite difficult to drive properly
@RanTausi
@RanTausi 6 ай бұрын
@@Synthematix I didn't know that, I thought the Bose 501 are 8 ohms , but yes it seems they need good juice of power to bring them a live. Last week I bought second hand Monitor audio silver 100 6g ohh boy they sound fantastic and they go low for 4.7 ohms , I paired them with my ADCOM GFA555 MK2, I can say it is a good match.
@dtracy03ss
@dtracy03ss 3 ай бұрын
The wireless digital plug is for a Bluetooth Module. My A12 has just Arrived and is awaiting Unboxing Set up and Wow I can't Wait!! Yes the Sub Outs have Selection for crossover levels at least on the 12! By the Way the A10 fits on your page if you look at what ANYTHING even Close would Cost!!
@MrBonger88
@MrBonger88 10 ай бұрын
The wireless module port is for a Bluetooth module and AMP IN is used if you want to use only the power amp in the unit with an external preamp
@GiguereSylvain
@GiguereSylvain 10 ай бұрын
Along the years, I was privileged to make a few 'emotional' encounters through audio sale trade and as a hobbyist. Major ones were Quad ESL57, IMF tsl50/80, marantz8B/7c, Dual 1219, Meridian 506, and above all, the older Tannoy series.. and the list goes on. I'm retired and on a shoe string budget.. but do cling to my Dual 701, Counterpoint sa-1 tube pre, Quad II tube monoblocs, Tannoy T165, Chord 2Qute and Bluesound streamer. All used.. but high on Emotions. It's all it is about 🎶
@Audiodreamer192-24
@Audiodreamer192-24 10 ай бұрын
I love the look of this amp. 2500 isn’t that bad for a good quality integrated amp. Very nice piece 👍
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