CHEAPER Than Expected?! RTX 50 Price Update & Mobile SKU Leaks

[@SigmaHuman69]

It wont be priced at $2,500... it'll be priced at $2,499.99

[@gamingfromjohnwayne]

Plus tax😢

[@savvazaicev]

Then I will be happy to save that amount of money

[@Healthy_Toki]

@@gamingfromjohnwayne plus tariffs, plus scalpers, plus electric bill, plus shader comp stutter, plus thanksgiving dinner with Jenson where he serves you hot silicone on a tray instead of a pie.

[@hirosese]

rather wait for 6070 to be faster for less than half the price

[@slumpedmage]

@@hirosese You believe that?

[@castercs]

Literally only an idiot would buy 5070 with 8GB ram

[@MyCatsPoopStinks]

nVidia Fans: "Hold my Beer and watch this."

[@bionicseaserpent]

only an idiot would buy Nvidia. they clearly don't deserve their customers

[@almostfamous1685]

Could say same shit with the 5080 too mega cringe it’s only got 16gb

[@John4343sh]

Actually with the new neural rendering techniques especially individual asset upscaling it is possible to greatly reduce the amount of Vram needed while boosting the overall graphical fidelity by a whole OOM. So no they wouldn't be an idiot. Just wait and see what Nvidia and AMD have up their sleeves.

[@castercs]

@@John4343sh I see your point but i doubt it. I read about it and not to get into speculative theory in real life use if that was the case why realise 5090 with 32gb vram

[@MagashiSaizen]

Nvidia is gunning to be the new Apple. Jensen needs to stop the bs

[@dieselphiend]

Wouldn't it be great if no one bought their cards, and they just kept lowering the price until we decided it was low enough? I think we need a website for organizing.

[@PCgamingbenchmarktime]

Too many morons in the world, it won't work. Look at how many people brag about having money so they'll buy it and people that don't buy it are apparently poor. The mentality of some people won't change unfortunately, they don't seem to understand that just because you have the money doesn't mean you should buy it. I guess they have no self respect, I prefer not to get raped by ridiculous prices lol

[@bionicseaserpent]

yeah good luck getting a bunch of rabbid shills not supporting their favourite trillion dollar company. its gonna be a LOT harder than getting salty Shilly windows users to switch to linux.

that's a pretty good suggestion

[@ceasarrivera23]

Would be nice. Since most of us are on the same page about Nvidias outrageous prices from generation to generation.

[@freedomearthmoon1]

Wouldn't it be great if those like you, that never intended on buying them in the first place, would quit complaining about the price

[@_Kaurus]

We may as well categorize GPU hierarchy by ram capacity at this point.

[@gbitencourt]

As always

[@jazeenharal6013]

​​@@gbitencourtnot as always..never in gaming has VRAM been the most important stat on a GPU, as it is today. It was always important but never ever has it been such a bottleneck

[@APNANO-c6t]

Are we back in 2016? What's up with the vram nvidia?

[@robbay8610]

Greed. Just greed. The only choice in 2025 will be b580 for low range, rx8800xt for midrange, and rtx5090 for top end. 5080 is just not worth it unless you skip the high vram games.

[@dieselphiend]

They are going above, and beyond to ensure their "gaming" cards aren't undermining their professional offerings, and so we all get gimped.

[@haukikannel]

Vram is great! We get more profit and people still buy! It is better than great! Just remember: ”the more you buy, the more you save” 😂

[@haroldasusus4684]

This. Why would I upgrade my card when in 4 generations there isn’t more VRAM???

[@nunosanches3693]

1k for a 5080 is overpriced, anything above 799 for 80 class is a NO GO

[@sylvainh2o]

and the raw performance upgrade will suck and will be priced in the increase $$. They will try to sell it with new technology and make it only available on the rtx 5000 series.

[@socks2441]

100% this is why i always buy used cards, from the previous gen. apart from ue5/ ray tracing, lazy devs and over reliance on dlss, frame gen etc. we dont need that much performance. i always just turn on 4k, turn off raytracing, then adjust settings from there until i have acceptable visuals at 60fps.

[@opafritzsche]

@@sylvainh2o 4080 was clearly never lower than 1000$, 4070 ti in costum design, was 1100.

[@navisoul-oi8mo]

even 799$ is expensive to draw pixels on a screen.

[@lateralus6512]

I just buy them used a few generations old. They represent way better value for money at that point.

[@eamonndoyle4753]

Regarding the 8gb RTX 50 series graphics cards, Nvidia are doing a apple, they know 8gb isn't enough for today's cards, basically forcing the customer to buy the more expensive cards, which usually are overpriced, greedy bastards.

[@dantemeriere5890]

I'm happy that Nvidia are using their market influence, which dwarfs AMD and Intel, to push back against these developers who keep dumping these games on PC with no semblance of optimization and expect us to pay for their lack of optimization by buying exaggerated amounts of VRAM for their artificial requirements. Sure, Nvidia also stands to gain by encouraging people to buy their more expensive GPUs, especially for people who want to mess with AI and need a lot of VRAM, but as far as games are concerned, these requirements are purely artificial. Even 8GB is more than enough if a game is even marginally optimized, let alone 16GB. With Nvidia making it a point to give their most popular GPUs a generous but realistic amount of VRAM, when a new game fails to run on a new GPU, the blame will fall on the developer. Any developer asking for a 5080 to run their game that looks worse than a 2016 indie title, sales are going to be negatively affected, which hopefully pushes back enough against these artificial requirements for developers to find some shame and learn how to optimize their games properly.

[@Pebb2024]

I kind of agree. Remember back in the day on the PS3 for example, developers only had 256MB of RAM to work with. So they had to actually put in the work to optimize their games and squeeze every last drop of power from the system. Coming out with games like The Last Of Us on that very limited hardware. These days, developers have so much RAM to work with, so they have just become lazy and release unoptimized piles of trash. instead of fully utilizing the extra hardware to push games to the next level, most develops are just taking advantage of it so they can be lazy.

[@davidhines7592]

its partly also 8gb because games have to work on consoles. if consoles didnt exist neither would overpriced gpus with too little (less than 12gb) vram.

[@ablet85]

@@dantemeriere5890 That isn't remotely what they are doing. They are ensuring planned obsolescence. You think the 3070 was them sticking it to the developers? No, it was to ensure that anyone who bought one was practically forced to replace it less then 18 months later. You can complain about needing more then 16 of VRAM but it is NVIDIA features that cause it to need more. DLSS and Raytracing. Things INVIDA pushed are what make it go up to 16gig not the dam Devs. If they didn't offer it then it wouldn't be an issue.

[@HaimSchnitzer]

@@dantemeriere5890 Games are built for console, consoles have much more memory available. They also have lower resolution which mean smaller textures, so when you make a port they increase texture size, trying to fit it to 8vram is a very hard task. So what cause the issue is that console can not handle native 4k and the small vram amount in PC.

[@Duarenteed]

The rtx 3080 was £650. With a huge silicone shortage. Add 20% inflation over 4 years= £780. Any more is an absolute disgrace.

[@Owen-np3wf]

5% inflation a year? Jeez

[@Duarenteed]

@Owen-np3wf Yeah it's been rediculus hasn't it. Population swell 🙄. Mass migration.

[@disclaimer4211]

Yes and ppl forget what Nvidia can do if they really want to sell things. Nvidia could price anything at whatever they want they are printing gold rn, they're a trillion dollar company. Maxwell anyone? Kepler?

[@projectshadow2397]

I just bought a rtx4070 12GB Proart for 570 CHF... Think you are kinda confused how prices work for hardware. :D

[@Duarenteed]

@projectshadow2397 you should have waited 4 months for the 5070. The 3070 was £470 add 20% inflation= £584 but with compatition from intel and AMD £520.

[@XMG3]

I strongly advise not buying the 5080 16GB. Here's what I found: first, my setup is 7800X3D, TUF 4080 Super, 32GB DDR5 6000Mhz, CL30. So in Indiana Jones the great circle. I'm getting 130 FPS at 4k DLSS performance, frame gen on, ray tracing high (not ultra). As soon as I switch to DLSS balanced, I ran out of 16GB VRAM and get 3 FPS... So even before the release of 5080, 16GB is not enough to run DLSS balanced with high ray tracing! This is completely unacceptable, imagine spending thousands and get 3 FPS on DLSS balanced with ray tracing... what a joke. Do not buy into nvidia marketing crap like neural AI rendering etc, without enough VRAM for next gen, there is nothing they can do to prevent this bottleneck.

[@Angel_Zodiac]

New DLSS supposedly is going to have AI texture stuff which will reduce the VRAM needed to render scenes. We have to see how that looks and how much it helps, but I'm expecting it to be able to reduce VRAM usage rather significantly since Nvidia seems adamant about still lower amounts of VRAM on their cards.

[@johnc8327]

Couldn’t you just change the settings to find something optimal? I think the nvidia app does that for you as well. Indiana Jones runs on a 2060 Super, I'm pretty sure the RTX 5080 will manage to run the game just fine. All the people freaking out about VRAM are just helping Nvidia sell 5090s and ti models.

[@CRF250R1521]

Exact same thing happened to me on my 4080. VRAM skyrocketed past 15gigs and began to get 2fps so I switched off ray tracing completely.

[@kazuviking]

@@Angel_Zodiac Neural Network based texture streaming or Neural Network based path tracing acceleration.

[@wwk279]

You're right, reviewers should tell everybody to not buy rtx 5080, just wait for rtx 5080 super 24GB vram

[@tomallan5000]

Try 8GB with games requiring raytracing, have fun running those with (I can't believe I am saying this) low end 5070 8 gb cards. Frames rates at

[@josiahsuarez]

Back in my day we ran our videogames powered by hopes and dreams 😢

[@tracesmith3572]

We had micro transactions in the '80s. A quarter to play, a quarter to continue.😉

[@lewiswright4038]

Imagine if they drop the prices and they where the same as 3000 Rtx series across all tiers that would be wild

[@oktusprime3637]

>Pay "leakers" to say it will be $3000 >Sell it for $2500 >Wow, the 5090 is way cheaper than I thought!

[@Eskoxo]

think 12gb memory should be minimal amount on low end gpus these days.

[@lambalamba240]

podría ser 10 , y 11gb de vram tolerable.No tengas miedo, tranquilo.

[@masterlee1988]

I wouldn't mind that, in fact I wouldn't buy a gpu with less than 12GB VRAM these days.

[@haukikannel]

Just think that $700 is the low end GPU target! 😂😂😂

[@Ja_Schadenfreude]

8 GB on the 70 series should be a crime. And cheap and Nvidia never go together.

[@blondegirl7240]

It will be 12 which is a crime

[@glowinTHX]

​@@blondegirl7240same as 4070ti.

[@yuvrajsingh15823]

​@@blondegirl72405070 is 8 gb. 5070 ti is 12 gb on mobile. Desktop 5070 is 12gb , 5070 ti is 16gb.

[@thenic123]

They can have one, so I can play games.

[@hugevibez]

People are complaining about the VRAM amounts, but the real crime here is limited bus-width which is also causing the low vram amounts. I'm fully expecting the 5070m to have a 128-bit bus, which is just shameful really. I don't know if they are working on a unified memory layout on their ARM APUs, but this needless crippling could be related to them circumventing that, giving them a performance advantage at the low end over traditional x86 systems.

[@adeptuspotatocus6451]

They moved their tiers around. The 4060Ti is to the 4090 as the 3050 is to the 3090, so it's not just the memory subsystem, though that is a big part of the problem.

[@haukikannel]

The bandwide in not a problem! Gddr5 is fast enough! The only thing that memory bus affect in reality is the vram amounth. Even 96bit is wide enough speed vise. I am sure that new low end will be 6050 with 96bit memory bus and 9gb of vram!

[@balaam_7087]

$50 is my total budget 🥴

[@simransidhu617]

Your only choice is the RTX 6000 🤔

[@MutheiM_Marz]

instead of potion seller, I am now Kidney seller. "In a perfect world, an expensive Nvidia card would not exist, But this is not a perfect world"

[@Mark_cheapskate]

That will get you a 5090 green sticker.

[@Healthy_Toki]

Then I suggest getting a retro handheld like the trimui brick.

[@bansheezs]

Used rx 580 is 50$

[@MutheiM_Marz]

Yayy ! Instead the price of 2 kidney, now it’s only cost 1. I will be alive !

[@apiksansom7355]

Dont watch garbage channel click bait

[@Hexenkind1]

Jokes on you

[@lolmao500]

Jensen : you'll buy our 5070 for an insane amount and be happy to play at 1080p with DLSS!! If you dont like it, well... sucks to be you! Luigi's brother might get an unplanned meeting with Jensen at some point

[@Stuart-rs3xd]

Cheaper than expected??? the traditional 70 class (now the TI) is not going to give you much change from £1000 !!!!! How is that cheaper than expected, i thought technology got cheaper every year, like TV's etc?? What happened to 'The mining boom is over Jenson' where we ALL expected to prices to go back down to normal again. i.e the 70 class for Sub £400

[@Gamer-q7v]

Great video. Thanks for the updates.

[@captainlooney4356]

$1999 Founder’s and $2499/$2599 ROG Strix, $3999 ROG Matrix

[@j20062006]

Founders is probably the best to get as it's cheapest, most of the 4090's don't have fuses. If something gets very hot or fails it zaps a component or chip on the PCB.. IDK why people pay a premium for Asus, they don't even have fuses. Only the MSI have fuses, even the cheap versions. IDK if it's going to be a repeat for 5000 series.

[@Eskoxo]

@@j20062006unfortunately every gen its hard to find founders in stock it usually takes me weeks setting up online alerts etc.

[@Felale]

$1600 founders 5090

[@Hexenkind1]

Cheaper than expected?! That is music to my ears. Hopefully. Fingers crossed.

[@wongwong1517]

Down from 3 bands to good 'ole 2.5 lol.

[@Hexenkind1]

@@wongwong1517 Thankfully I sold my 4090 for a very high price.

[@SweatyFeetGirl]

@@wongwong1517 "cheaper than expected" aka. 5070 = 4070ti for the same price... and 5090 even more expensive than 4090 kek

[@nipa5961]

5090 8GB will start at $2499.

[@Hexenkind1]

@@nipa5961 Are you sure it is not 6GB?

[@Ultrajamz]

The 50 series would only be well priced if they predict recession soon

[@wihukeon]

You also missed the possibility that the 5080 is so cut down compared to the 5090 that that's why there is such a big price difference

[@zackw4941]

If 5080 is $1100 and 5090 is $17-1800, that doesn't really make sense, other than pushing everyone to shell out for 5090. But maybe that's what they're trying to do.

[@PCgamingbenchmarktime]

The 5080 will probably sell even worse than the 4080 did if its over $1,000 again. They literally had to bring out the super version to price correct, it would be ridiculous if they try up the price again, especially now when 16gb is being pushed to the limit and the specs are more cut down than usual. We're probably looking at around a 30% uplift instead of the 50% uplifts form the last few generations. That would be a disaster, it makes the 5070ti look good ...but if they're increasing the prices by $100 then the 5070ti will be $899 which would also be terrible. This could be hilarious lol I'm excited to see this shit show blow up in nvidias face when they announce the prices lol

[@pasullica]

5080 only 16GB of RAM ...Nvidia have shot themselves in the leg.

[@haukikannel]

NVIDIA market share is not 88% and most likely go up… how have they shot themselves when they just print money! People who buy NVIDIA shot themselves at the leg… not the company!

[@kr00tmanmining]

I am actually really excited about the 5080 only having 16 gigs of vram, might be the only halo sku gpu gamers will be able to buy for quite a while

[@disclaimer4211]

Everyone Forgets Nvidia can just price anything whatever they want, they are printing money with a.i too, so it's possible that they could price the 5080 at 899 or 999 like the 4080super to convince 4080super and 4070ti super buyers to upgrade, it would be a smarter move too. They can litterally pull an ampere pricing strategy gap as well, keeping the 80 class as the end of the mid range pricing and 80ti to 90ti as the above 1100 dollars pricing ranges.

[@D90NAS77]

These prices aren’t all Nvidia’s fault. TSMC has increased their pricing over 25% in the last couple of years. Added to that the mining demand that drove empty shelves for graphics cards…..

[@paulct91]

Just wait for CES 2025, then complain at pricing then, or be in amazement.

[@ozanozkirmizi47]

I am sorry but, "Inadequate vram in any modern graphics card is a crime against pc world"

[@rowsdower84]

Wait, are these the laptop RTX 50 GPUs? It would make sense that those would get gimped in order to maintain a certain TDP envelope on laptops.

[@kasmidjan]

Basically Jensen "Give me money, give me more money...."

[@chrisking6695]

It's probably gonna be about 2000 dollars.

[@MrAwol007]

Another amazing video thank you RGT

[@profounddamas]

Will it have 40%+ IPC uplift?

[@pumpkinpatch4307]

People don’t seem to realize how much faster GDDR7 vram is compared to GDDR6

[@blackmennewstyle]

I think our awesome brother from Minnesota, aka Moore's Law Is Dead, made a very relevant video about RTX 5000 pricing like yesterday...

[@Twitch_Moderator]

*Hey, Paul!* *I'm hoping the 5080 Ti will be around $1,199 USD. I desperately need an upgrade for a decent price.*

[@lambalamba240]

que tienes?

[@Twitch_Moderator]

RTX 3080 10 GB

[@krisshietala2119]

2400eur for 5090 and 1200eur for 5080 is "cheaper than expected"? :P

[@trackex9783]

people were telling me back when the 30 series came around, that we dont need as much vram... look at you now, who is even gonna buy a sub 12gb card?

[@teanymonster5227]

first , appriciate the news btw

[@jonathanmarsh8119]

On the same site there is a 32GB RAM, i7, 1TB, 4090 for 4100 EUR, so that is about $4276 and then after subtracting the 20% VAT $3563. So that would mean that the 5090 is about $500 more than the 4090. Maybe $400 to $450 depending on the rest of the differences to the build components like the i7 to the Core Ultra 7 etc. This pegs the cost of the 5090 at $2000 I guess.

[@cracklingice]

16GB 5080 at $899. 24GB 5080 Ti at $1199. Nvidia just *might* be able to salvage the s***show

[@VGDocs]

If the 5070 ends up being 8GB then at that point I think it should be commonplace for people to actively recommend against buying it. I've got a 3070 ti that's still surprisingly competent in performance overall at 1440p but is often hampered by VRAM constraints whenever trying to put textures higher, let alone DLSS, making RT typically unfeasible- I'm sure it's far worse with a 4070. 5070 at 8GB would be the point at which I say "not going nvidia until they start equipping their cards with adequate vram".

[@glbernini0]

Can't wait for the higher performance "AI TURBO" Max Plus models!

[@93ksj]

8GB 5070 is absolutely mental these days

[@ltfreeborn]

Just because it is a dollar cheaper, doesn't mean anything when its still $2500

[@jonathanmarsh8119]

The prices between the 5080 and 5090 need to be quite large as 5090 is basically a Titan card, and there still needs to be a 5080 Super, 5080 TI and 5080 TI Super

[@JakeySurani]

Not a titan card. No titan drivers and not full 102 die. It's a 90 card.

[@haukikannel]

It seems that difference is about $1300… so it is good enough this time!

[@Polesworth]

So, they’re telling me, the intel arc b580 has more goddamn vram for 1/4 of the price of the 5070?

[@magnusnilsson9792]

5090 computer probably has more powerful PSU than the 5080 computer.

[@TheActionStack]

You lost me at name complaints. Please suggest a different naming system?

[@jonathanryan9946]

I mean, the difference between FE 4080 and FE 4090 direct from Nvidia was about $300 at launch. However comparing a FE 4080 direct from Nvidia and a FE 4090 in a prebuilt was typically >$600. The 4080 did also get a $200 price drop at one point. Both because of the 4080 Super and its sales were that great to begin with. So if we go purely based on this and assume apples to apples, then the RTX 5090 would be approximately $1,900. A $300 increase. Of course this year AMD isn't releasing a competing card... so prices could easily be higher. I do think $2,299 will be the upper limit though, unless the 5080 is more than the 4080 launch price. As otherwise that prebuilt is on one heck of a discount. Lol

[@socks2441]

hopefully next gen amd will be somewhat competitive, so we can either buy amd instead, or buy nvidia without quite such a monopolistic price hike. preferably do the former. i dont know how many years until amd releases their next gpu though. but i think ill stick with my used 3080ti until then. prices have just been taking the piss since 30 series.

[@gamingtemplar9893]

How the hell is not ideal 8 gb for a 5050 card in current gen? absurd.

[@jonogrimmer6013]

Bored of 50 series news now

[@CaptainAhnungslos]

I wonder what all the speculating channels will do, once the new cards arrive? Will they immediately start speculating over rtx 6000? 😅

[@British_Dragon-4K-Simulations]

I just want to know the price in GBP, £ (Great British Pounds).

[@jonogrimmer6013]

@@British_Dragon-4K-Simulations £1899

[@sbx52i]

What is the name of the toy car game at 5:03?

[@del669]

it's a demo Nvidia made, called 'Racer RTX'

[@zakazanyphoenix3573]

Volt Recharge yet to release i think it's a remake of re-volt old og there is a modern engine rewrite of it called RVGL you could search ,try it out and see

[@paulct91]

Its WAS supposed to bw released as a full game... NVIDIA has only released the tech demo... or nothing at all (can't remember which).

[@Telecasterland]

Do you mean ARC Battlemage had an impact?

[@ThorsShadow]

I'm so happy the 5090 is only going to cost me slightly more than my first car. .....wtf

[@ctjmaughs]

Time to bring back those GPU coprocessors like those ti32070

[@DenisPfeiffer]

The RTX 5090 16GB is clickbait. The V-RAM you can directly see in the "Predator" screens. And btw.: Better not to be that happy about the prices! A recent Predator X (i7, 32GB, 1000GB, RTX4080) on OTTO goes out for 3.058,00 EUR (2,680.00 USD without german VAT). This means, you will have to pay a premium of at least 200-400 bucks for the respective RTX 50 modell. I can't be more upset about it...

[@gstormcz]

Cheaper than expected - seems like prices were already anchored . I'm curious about the mid-range - what the competition will be like. I'm not interested in raytracing at all. I'm interested in the only game that supports it and definitely not for raytracing, but for gameplay. With the 4000 series sold out and discontinued - Nvidia will be able to price Blackwell more freely.

[@frallorfrallor3410]

so these prebuilt is to eliminate risk of scalped gpus good job acer

[@Ben256MB]

In my opinion 8GB of VRAM should only exist on an intergrated GPU . 8GB isnt enough for even 1440p gaming .

[@kyse2]

thing is it is nvidia and gddr7 if nvidia put more all the gfx cards would be 2k+ :P

[@dj4aces]

Best case scenario, 5090 FE will be $2k. Third party prices will be higher, almost certainly. Also, for those of us in the States, let's not forget about the economy-tanking tariffs that are coming soon. Think it's bad now? You haven't seen anything yet.

[@fawkkyutuu8851]

I think 5090 FE will be $2499 , and 5090 STRIX OC $2899 (White color costing even more).

[@LM-pg9hy]

Scalpers gonna raise the price to absured levels

[@fawkkyutuu8851]

I think 5090 FE will be $2499 , and 5090 STRIX OC $2899 (White color costing even more).

[@weirdodude1173]

The 5090 appears to be twice the card that 5080 is, so twice the price is not out of the question. I think 8800 XT might really be the best price to performance, if it costs less than 50% of what 5080 does but performs say 60% as fast. Thumbs up.

[@PCgamingbenchmarktime]

That's not all that appealing lol. The 8800xt needs to be less than half the price, over $499 and its DOA

[@Turbotef]

@@PCgamingbenchmarktime If the 8800xt is 7900xtx level with better RT for $500-600, then I'll grab one of those over the 5080 card. If not, I'll be going Nvidia this time around.

[@JakeySurani]

It's not a 8800xt it's a 9070xt

[@PCgamingbenchmarktime]

@Turbotef i highly doubt it will be xtx level. It will be closer to the XT Imo, maybe 10% away from the 4080 best case scenario. That would be decent at $499. Anything over that and it will flop hard and people will pay extra for nvidia cards. Amd always make the same mistake, they price too high at launch and people go with nvidia instead and then they drop the price once the interest is long gone. I have no trust that amd will make the smart move lol

[@JakeySurani]

@PCgamingbenchmarktime yea they already said it wouldn't beat xtx in raster probably will in RT tho.

[@TheBlindWeasel]

Their High end cards are being subsidized by the lower tiers

[@nitebones1]

im still wondering if going for the founders eddition would be worth it as when teh founders for the 4090 came out it was around 1500 here but currently for the nomral version of the 4090 they are 2000. so are the founders worth it

[@StriderCZ]

"It's 1000 more for the 5090 than the 5080" If the 5080 with it's sad and disappointing specs comes in at

[@mikebruzzone9570]

More deletions taking from cultivating audience comprehension to be the best one can be and a great example Paul, true leadership, great educator. mb

[@mandasantoso]

Ah yeah, not 2500 but 2000 you mean? I heard that their marketing team has been tutoring stores to say that xx70 class is now pro territory... with price to match!

[@PCgamingbenchmarktime]

No, it was the 5080 and 5090 being targeted as professional series. The 5070ti and lower are the "consumer" cards lol. Would be hilarious if the 5070ti becomes $999 in the 4080s place even though it will barely out perform the 4080 lol. 10% at best for the same price, how ridiculous would that be lol

[@mandasantoso]

@@PCgamingbenchmarktime Remind me of that time Intel was when AMD is busy bulldozing and piledriving... Sigh... But the truth is, many people will still buy it because AMD (and Intel) just can't compete (yet, hopefully)...

[@PCgamingbenchmarktime]

@mandasantoso i don't think Intel will ever be a threat, they didn't seem confident that arc will still be around for long. They're selling at a loss and things aren't going well for them so I can see them making the terrible decision to stop with arc..which would be a shame, as for Amd....who knows with them. They're never aggressive enough and price wrong at launch and people just go with amd, they're also always behind on innovations with tech/software. They need to get their shit together. In the mean time i hope people really put some thought into what they're buying with nvidia because it seems like they're just trying to rip us off as much as possible, they keep pushing up the prices and they'll continue to do so because people are stupid lol. There's only so many times they can fool people though, if they price too high I really hope people pushback

[@Velerios]

It's the second one you said, not OOto, but OTTO.

[@coleevans2487]

Why is there no comment on the listed 16 GB 5059! WTF?!

[@PCgamingbenchmarktime]

I think it's ridiculous everyone is commenting about these low vram cards and failed to notice that they're the laptop variants.....is it really that surprising that the laptop variants get less vram, this is how it's been for many many years lol

[@Caveman787]

5070Ti 12gb. 5070 8gb....Uhhh well thats trash. So imagine that more skimping on memory.

[@michigantoga]

People gone buy the stuff, thats the #1 problem. Im still on my 3090

[@x4it3n]

The 5090 needs to be a lot better than the 4090 to be sold at $2000+ because $2000 is already 25% more than 4090 MSRP ($1600) therefore the 5090 would need to be 60-70% than the 4090 to be a good value and also show a real performance gap between generations. GDDR7 & 512-bit bus are definitely going to play a big role here!

[@JakeySurani]

New 4090s are 2.4k or 2.5k the 5090 will be 3k

[@x4it3n]

@JakeySurani Scalpers are selling them $2400/2500 not Nvidia. Also there are plenty online not selling at that price because it's a terrible value. Only Professionals if they really need one are buying some... the 5090 is around the corner spending $2500 for a 4090 would be stupid. And $3000 for the 5090 no way. It would make the 5090 value worse compared to 4090. It will be maybe 60-70% faster in Raster & maybe closer to 2x in RT/PT due to the new Architecture.

[@JakeySurani]

@x4it3n no in the UK overclockers is selling them for £2400 which is €2900 euros new. A 5090 Is gonna be 2k+. It's more expensive to make than a 4090 was. 32gb g7 , 512 bit bus 744mm2 die 4np node. This is a superior product. If its 30 or 40% faster in raster at 2k it's better price to perf than an msrp 4090. So yes they will use some marketing bs to swing it

[@x4it3n]

@JakeySurani UK is different, I live in the US so yeah. But imo the 5090 MSRP will not be over $2000. I'm pretty sure scalpers will try to sell them for a lot more but that's a different story.

[@platty7047]

Schnäppchen gleich zwei bestellt 😉

[@mleise8292]

I'm split on the VRAM for the mobile RTX 5050. A lot of folks buy these for video/photo editors that favour CUDA and NVENC. They don't need more than say 2 GB VRAM for their work. They just need the cheapest NVIDIA GPU they can get. At the same time, the same 6 GB RTX 4050 laptops are advertised for gaming with pictures of path traced Portal and DLSS3. At a price of €1450 for a WQHD model, the "just video editing" crowd is overpaying by scary amounts while the gamer gets pathetic performance. For a €360 less you get a DIY PC with 100% more GPU performance, 100% more RAM, 100% more VRAM and 100% more SSD space that doesn't stutter through Stalker 2. 😐

[@Batheronthemove]

From Fake Frames to Fake Memory only $1,999.

[@AndyViant]

8gb on a 5050, even at a stretch a 5060 laptop is fine. 8gb on a 5060Ti or 5070 laptop is not. When are we gonna see 8700XT or 8800XT on a laptop? I'm looking for a laptop upgrade too and I want 12gb vram on it.

[@AndyViant]

I have to be honest. I think I'd rather buy a Chinese Zen 1 CPU than buys something with a cringe name that uses "AI" and "Max". Right now that could be the biggest selling point for Intel.

[@ByteCuriousX]

i hope it’ll be expensive. HIgh supply and scalpers can’t profit off of it.

[@oMeGa0122]

Just so you guys know. This channel deleted our comments because we are complaining about the click bait lol

[@minus3dbintheteens60]

They ain't cutting then price of 80 class cards, why would they? lol. Nah, the 5090 is $2k+

[@reslytamura2330]

because of Intel B580 Arc fault, nvidia reduce prices. haha

[@OXY187]

I still have 3080 ti and It’s gonna carry me for another decade. Then I’ll buy a simulation tube.

[@JakeySurani]

Goodluck with 12gb of vram

[@gamingfromjohnwayne]

I say after the scalpers get ahold of everything it will be 3k😢

$2000 for a graphics card? No way.

[@EMee-i8q]

Oh, come on. That leaves You enough to buy Me one too.

[@elbuglione]

Any price beyond $1300.- for 5090 is a scam.

[@hypersonicmonkeybrains3418]

OMFG! Nope im still not upgrading from my 8GB GTX 1070...

[@gsestream]

stop with the dedicated asics. use opencl fpgas instead. yes same amount of transistors. same price. variants? what variants. just one common shared fpga back bone fabric. that chart is bs.5090 has more memory than 4090. ie 32gb. just bs.

[@terrycook2733]

a 16gb 5090 is just waist of time

[@slumpedmage]

Maybe if it had a watch for a belt

[@crikeyhunter]

wow the 5080 is going to be 5439 dollars Australian

[@cracklingice]

8GB = 50 class 12GB = 60 class 16GB = 70 and 80 class. 24GB+ = 80 Ti / 90 class

[@haukikannel]

No that is not realistic! For 6000 series Low end 6050 96bit 9gb $400 6060 128 bit 12gb $600 6070 192 bit 18gb $800 6080 256 bit 24gb $1600 6090 who knows! $3000+

[@cracklingice]

@@haukikannel I fail to understand why you're OK with being sold short. 50 class is minimum of 128-bit. 60 class is minimum 192-bit. 70 and 80 class are minimum 256-bit. 80ti and above are minimum 384-bit.

[@VagabondGFG]

8GB VRAM cards shouldn't even exist in 2025

[@haukikannel]

😂😂😂 It is Ngreed! We will have 8gb gpus at 2026! 2027 we will get 6050 with 96bit bus as 9gb of vram to the low end below 6060 128bit bus 12gb as middle range $600 GPU!