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Cheapest HO Locomotive on Amazon - Is it Good or Crap?

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3 жыл бұрын

HO locomotives can be tricky to find cheap so I was surprised to find this Walther's GP15 for $65. I got one of their engines in 2006 (A ViaRail F40) It's never given me trouble so I was curious to see the quality of this model. It's not high-end but is still seems decent for the price.
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@CR7659
@CR7659 3 жыл бұрын
I think what that is, is the old Proto 1000 GP15 with an upgraded drive to eliminate the gears that crack, and some of the detail left off, the end grabs and so forth, or molded on, as in the swing hangers on the truck sideframes. It's confusing because Walthers had their own GP15-1 before they bought out Life-Like's assets which was a Trainline engine and had a lower level of detail. I'd have to sit down and look at the two to determine which that is by comparing shell details. I haven't handled either one in a long time, I think I have one of the original Walthers ones here somewhere but the one or two Protos I ever had were things I got to sell. To install the plow you remove the base of the pilot, you can see the holes from the inside when you show the bottom of the engine. It probably just presses back off.
@randallellison6421
@randallellison6421 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you brought that up on the ex Proto 1000 tooling, although I think it is the Walthers Mainline version of this locomotive, which does come either DCC ready or equipped with DCC/sound. The version Harrison has is more than likely the original Walthers tooling, just updated a bit. I say that because there's also 2 versions of the GP9 Walthers has, the original Trainline tooling (GP9M only) and an all new Mainline version which includes both the hi hood and chop nose versions.
@CR7659
@CR7659 3 жыл бұрын
@@randallellison6421 The Walthers Trainline GP9M uses the old Cox shell, which is a clone of Athearn but with a low nose. The new Mainline one is based on Proto tooling but they leave a lot of the detail for the modeler to add. This GP15 just the way the shell is cut and detailed makes me think it's the Proto but like I said I'd have to get mine out and look it over.
@randallellison6421
@randallellison6421 3 жыл бұрын
@@CR7659 ok that explains alot on where the GP9M tooling came from. I also have an old Trainline GP15-1 and after rewatching this video, I notice some differences between this current release and the one I have, but like you, I'll have to examine mine more to see just how much Walthers changed this Model compared to the nearly 20 year old version I have. Thanks for the info.
@crsrdash-840b5
@crsrdash-840b5 3 жыл бұрын
@@randallellison6421 The Trainline series is just the original line from the 1990's. Walthers needed a way to help distinish between their levels. Low is Trainline. Mid is Mainline and Proto is top line. Also, the Cox shell has been retooled a lot.
@user-sd7qo7qe4v
@user-sd7qo7qe4v 2 жыл бұрын
@@randallellison6421 Walthers’ only Original locomotives in the Trainline range is the GP15 and the F40PH. The ALCO FA1 is an old Trains Miniatures Model and the GP9M is the old Cox locomotive based off the Athearn GP9
@Over3900
@Over3900 3 жыл бұрын
Actually really good quality for the price. Atlas Trainman and Athearn Roundhouse are branded as budget locomotives but cost as much as the top of the line stuff. This Walthers GP15 has the same quality and details put in but a far better price.
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 3 жыл бұрын
I like Atlas and Athearn but I agree with you - the quality isn't significantly better but the price is much higher.
@gamerfan8445
@gamerfan8445 2 жыл бұрын
@@SMTMainline and this we need cheap new locomotive.
@tommurphy4307
@tommurphy4307 2 жыл бұрын
i guarantee you its a 3-pole motor
@someslavaboo7497
@someslavaboo7497 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Walthers GP20 and I've had it for almost a decade. I believe a year ago I ran it and it ran amazing. For some reason those Walthers engines are fine runners, even without a lot of lubrication. As of right now I don't know the condition of the internals of it, but the shell is destroyed (Mainly because I bought it at a time where I destroyed everything lol.)
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 3 жыл бұрын
Good to hear you have one that's been running that long. I've noticed that they don't need much oil as well, I believe since the nylon is a low friction material, they can run fine with hardly any lubricant.
@tommurphy4307
@tommurphy4307 2 жыл бұрын
the gears are made of an acetal plastic (a knock-off of dupont delrin) that is self-lubricating.
@RailBrothersProductions
@RailBrothersProductions 3 жыл бұрын
I've had pretty good experiences with Walthers, I have a DC power Santa Fe GP9M from 2017 and it still works great 👍
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 3 жыл бұрын
That's good to hear.
@Killer-Of-Night
@Killer-Of-Night 3 жыл бұрын
Some basic info on the loco, it is a GP15-1, which EMD introduced in around the late 70's, as an alternative to rebuilding early diesel locos. It was never designed as a mainline locomotive, as it only boasted 1,500hp. So they were mainly assigned to either yard work or switching duties. A pair of UPY ones currently work the yard nearest to me. Which is perfect for a starter loco, as most people starting out would only have a small amount of track, and not much space. So its good for a small loop track or small switching layout. Also the lack of detail doesn't show it too well, but if you look at the rear of the loco, it has a rear intake design similar to a SD40T-2 or SD45T-2, which some people have since called GP15's "Baby Tunnel Motors".
@erikhilsinger9421
@erikhilsinger9421 3 жыл бұрын
They are definitely a competent model. The plow looks like you can pop off the current pilot treatment and swap it for the plow casting if you like that Michigan feeling. It wouldn't be hard to add some bling, sound decoder, more blinky lights, and otherwise put some onions on its belt.
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 3 жыл бұрын
For the price, I'm impressed.
@markwilliams2620
@markwilliams2620 3 жыл бұрын
....because that's how we did things back in the day.
@rolandvonthun1403
@rolandvonthun1403 3 жыл бұрын
I have an old Walther's Chicago and northwestern exactly like that but it is old but it still runs well it is one my dad gave me when I was 5 (yes I also had Bachmann starter sets when I was 5) and it has some more sentimental value becuz my dad worked for the Chicago and northwestern back in the 1970s and the Milwaukee road at the same time I am now a 12 year old with that same Walther's engine for almost eight years I'm almost 13 and it still runs
@cmdrflake
@cmdrflake 3 жыл бұрын
The 1545 is an ex-Conrail unit. I would put the F for front on the front end of the frame, ought to be easy to do. You got a fairly good little runner.
@joallawestervelt6918
@joallawestervelt6918 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing and giving your personal review on it. It was a surprise when you cracked it open. I always enjoy your videos. If I don't win the contest I may look into buying one like this for my brother-in-law for his birthday as he has said he wants to convert over to HO from N scale as it is getting hard for him to work on the small scale. I thought it would be nice to get him his first HO locomotive. Again thank you for sharing with everyone. 💕😊💕🇺🇸
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think they did too bad a job on this model. It could be perfect for someone starting off in the hobby.
@mitchellhoepner6435
@mitchellhoepner6435 3 жыл бұрын
Well folks time for some good old smt
@adamburnes3655
@adamburnes3655 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen this locomotive on Amazon before and I’ve been reluctant to add it to my list. I definitely appreciate this review. I also just want to say that the HO scale locomotive you sent me for the 10,000 subs giveaway still runs very well and is one of my favorites in my collection.
@trainboi
@trainboi 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t need it I don’t need it I definitely don’t need it I don’t need it I don’t need it! I NEED IT!!!!!
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 3 жыл бұрын
If this thing stands the tests of time properly, I will be very impressed.
@RandomGamesProductions
@RandomGamesProductions 3 жыл бұрын
I got one for 15 dollars including shipping off eBay but it didn’t have side rails and it didn’t have number boards
@RandomGamesProductions
@RandomGamesProductions 3 жыл бұрын
But runs great haven’t had a day’s trouble with it
@F40Productions
@F40Productions 3 жыл бұрын
I have the GP9M from Walthers Trainline and it was super easy to fit with a decoder. It runs really well and is my main switcher now
@hmhobbies
@hmhobbies 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Wisconsin central gp-9m and it is the best runner in my collection, I got it for $25 BRAND NEW and the thing is fantastic
@natestrains1166
@natestrains1166 3 жыл бұрын
The shell dates back to a Life-Like proto 1000 design. Walthers mainline used it, but with a better drive system. Now Trainline uses it, but the drive isn't as smooth. But they are very reliable. To install the snowplow, you need to remove the piece under the coupler.
@traingirl584
@traingirl584 3 жыл бұрын
I actually have an older version of this locomotive. I bought it used and aside from cleaning the pick ups and some basic lubrication it works fine especially at slower speeds. Mine has a shell that has clips and also a motor that can't be removed but, overall it's a quality locomotive.
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 3 жыл бұрын
How long have you had it for?
@traingirl584
@traingirl584 3 жыл бұрын
Year and a half but I use n scale/ hon30 so the locomotive sat for a good 6 months between uses but after a quick clean and lubrication it ran just fine.
@traingirl584
@traingirl584 3 жыл бұрын
The locomotive was part of a walthers train line set and I think its atleast 4-6 yrs old in total
@eX0dus77
@eX0dus77 3 жыл бұрын
If you got some drill bits, along with some windshield wipers, uncoupling levers, mu hoses, ditchlights along with any other details to make it accurate to the actual engine, you got yourself a Proto Engine, for a fraction of the cost
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 3 жыл бұрын
That's true, just need the skills and supplies.
@swiv99
@swiv99 3 жыл бұрын
exactly, it wouldn't take many detail parts to make it unique. I was surprised walthers even added the snowplow, nice touch imo
@RedRiverRailfan
@RedRiverRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
I got one of these for Christmas from my grandpa. It was the one in the UP yard scheme. He got me into the hobby and pays my way through it 😂
@randallellison6421
@randallellison6421 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool locomotive Harrison, Walthers makes good stuff, especially for the budget conscious market. Incidentally the plows that came with the locomotive can be installed by simply removing the footboards on the front and rear pilots. They're actually to help enhance the look of the locomotive to match the era its running in as some of these GP15s were originally delivered with footboards on the front and rear pilots. Also there are actually 2 versions of this locomotive, the Trainline version that you have and a Mainline version (ex Proto 1000 tooling) which comes either DCC ready or equipped with DCC/SOUND.
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the information
@randallellison6421
@randallellison6421 3 жыл бұрын
@@SMTMainline no problem
@lawnmowermanTX
@lawnmowermanTX 2 жыл бұрын
Very good investment Harrison! :) KUDOS! Excellent Observation and demonstration of hauling cars!
@shockstrains5077
@shockstrains5077 3 жыл бұрын
one of my first locomotives was a train line and it’s still a runner to this day. i even bought one off of amazon about a year ago and i’ve never had problems with either locomotive
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 3 жыл бұрын
How long have you had your first one for?
@shockstrains5077
@shockstrains5077 3 жыл бұрын
@@SMTMainline well over 10 years
@TheyMakeItLikeThat
@TheyMakeItLikeThat 3 жыл бұрын
Walthers trainline has always been a reliable and affordable line. Great video! Very solid review.
@jk180
@jk180 2 жыл бұрын
For the engine to be DCC ready the motor needs to be isolated and this one has the added bonus of everything going to a board that can be replace.
@conorwigglesworth9112
@conorwigglesworth9112 3 жыл бұрын
I got the CP version for Christmas last year
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 3 жыл бұрын
How has it run since then?
@Eastkentuckysirensandtrains
@Eastkentuckysirensandtrains 3 жыл бұрын
That's a gorgeous GP15. Never knew a budget locomotive could be a good treasure for your collection.
@NicholassTrainChannel
@NicholassTrainChannel 3 жыл бұрын
for a budget model that is not bad at all.
@joeraderblackrockcentralrr
@joeraderblackrockcentralrr 3 жыл бұрын
Thats a snow plow. Left off because not all engines have them. Check prototype pics. Mark and drill holes and glue it on. Not a bad loco once you add details
@kevo05s
@kevo05s 3 жыл бұрын
My first individually purchased locomotive was also a Walthers Trainline! I had gotten a CN GP9M. That was in 08 or 09 and she's still going strong till this day!
@mercuryoak2
@mercuryoak2 3 жыл бұрын
Great looking model . I will say I never had Walthers trainline however it does look like a nice model for the price I'm sure that it's a great speed match to a athearn or proto 1000/ 2000 locomotives. Very nice review. The only thing I have that is Walthers type is a couple Freight cars that have metal axles and Kadee couplers that came with them even though I bought them used they are quite amazing models for box cars they also have been discontinued since probably about 10 years ago.
@Santaanacanyon
@Santaanacanyon 3 жыл бұрын
Love your review style. This budget engine looks exactly what the hobby needs. Hope its in many road schemes.
@shipbuilding1000
@shipbuilding1000 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when these Trainline GP15’s were first released, it was late 1998. They haven’t changed much since then, save for the metal couplers you pointed out. Trainline models never were highly detailed but they’re solid runners, and a good starting point for a superdetailing project since the basics on the shell are pretty good
@JMLoll
@JMLoll 2 жыл бұрын
The chassis, shell, and motor are from the Proto 1000 model that came out about a decade ago. It's not the original Trainline version.
@keiyakins
@keiyakins 3 ай бұрын
Honestly, for a beginner, running well is probably *the* most important feature. If it barely works, people will bounce off. Then being reasonably sturdy - it doesn't have to survive a six foot fall onto concrete, but should be okay if you fumble a bit putting it on the layout. A newbie won't have the skills to effect a repair yet. It looks like this was actually designed with those needs in mind, which is great to see.
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 3 ай бұрын
I tend to agree. Getting started is complicated enough, adding problems might discourage people.
@Trains-With-Shane
@Trains-With-Shane 3 жыл бұрын
That looks like a pretty decent budget unit. Good thing about the GP15 is that most of them don't have a bunch of roof detail to worry about such as Dynamic brakes, round radiator fans, etc. So a pretty logical choice for a cheap body mold. I'm very impressed by the large dual flywheels and large motor. If memory serves me right you don't get flywheels in Bachmann's entry level HO offerings. Looks like Nickel Silver wheels, pretty sturdy gear setup despite being nylon, looks to be well lubricated out of the box. Out of curiosity I also searched Amazon and the cheapest DC Road Switcher I could find was the Trainline GP15 as well but in BNSF colors. I did find a cheaper DC locomotive, though. It's the Plymouth DDT Industrial Switcher - Standard DC in Canadian National by Model Power at only $30US Nice review! But didn't Model Power go out of business? I may have them mixed up with somebody else.
@JonathanColemanTrains
@JonathanColemanTrains 3 жыл бұрын
When you get a chance look at the drive wheels on the AFT and the Daylight locomotives and see if they have a star on them. AFT stands for American Freedom Train
@therailroadempire7993
@therailroadempire7993 3 жыл бұрын
That CSX locomotive looks sharp on your layout.
@SirLANsalot
@SirLANsalot 3 жыл бұрын
Being HO, anything is "DCC ready" as its VERY easy to DCC even an OLD Athern Blue Box (did a U33C and it was a non flywheel version too and it runs wonderfully). It should be considered DCC "friendly" since you have all the wires for motor/power/lights all right there so it would be very easy to do it.
@dfwrproductions
@dfwrproductions 6 ай бұрын
Nice review! A little tip if you ever get more of these locomotives, the little thing attached to the plow right below the coupler is what prevents the frame from coming off with the coupler attached. Being an owner of 5 Walthers GP15-1s I find it a little unnecessary to take the coupler out every time I have to get inside a locomotive. What you can do instead to save a lot of time and effort is remove those things that prevent the shell from coming off. They are easily removable and reattach. The only time I've ever had to actually take the coupler out was when I had to replace a damaged coupler and even then it was very simple. I don't know if you'll see this but I hope it helps if you didn't know already.
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 6 ай бұрын
I wasn’t aware of that, I’ll have a look. Thanks for the advice.
@John-op5vi
@John-op5vi Жыл бұрын
I'm more than happy with the performance of this engine. Runs Strong and steady and quiet. Thanks for Poppin the hood.
@MosriteCharlie
@MosriteCharlie Ай бұрын
A good starter locomotive for young people wishing to get started or for those on a tight budget. Smooth dive and excellent paint with KD compatible couplers should perform well.
@dvv45
@dvv45 3 жыл бұрын
Good Engines. Never give me any trouble. Run them a lot!
@railroad-to3fc
@railroad-to3fc 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure if anyone answered this, but to attach the snowplow to the front, you have to take the little bar thing off where it would go, it goes in with two little pegs like the snow plow and you can just swap them out.
@stevesmodelbuilds5473
@stevesmodelbuilds5473 2 жыл бұрын
I bought this earlier in the year, and I'm really happy with it. It's a DC unit. Mine is the Santa Fe road name. It's painted red with silver hood. It looks great, runs great, and pulls great. For the plows, you have to remove what's there and snap in the new pieces. More info on the Walthers site.
@TPMathews11
@TPMathews11 Ай бұрын
For the cowcatcher you need to take the old plow off and it will expose the holes and you put the cowcatcher in
@gabemiller4882
@gabemiller4882 8 ай бұрын
My dad and I still have our CSX diesel locomotive we put it around train track down in the basement!! Good job in find it 👍👍👍, Harrison ! Very good locomotive 🚂 and cheap !
@alweinhofer5453
@alweinhofer5453 10 ай бұрын
I have some of these and they run just fine. Good quality for the cost.
@casstelles
@casstelles 3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts: the value equals the price. There are detail parts that could be add by the consumer to dress it up. IMHO, the drive train and the shell lends it to possibilities while leaving it affordable. This reminds of the late 80's to mid 90's Athearn locomotives. This could lead to possibilities for someone who like DIY projects which were popular during the time mentioned.
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more!
@yardhog
@yardhog Жыл бұрын
A unit like that looked good for what it was. It ran smooth, and at 3' and pulling cars the missing grab irons weren't that noticeable. If you add them and some air hoses you could make it a unit you had some pride in for dressing up but still have a rugged unit for running on display layouts and train shows. Good to see Walthers still keeping that market alive.
@solar_9878
@solar_9878 Жыл бұрын
People like you are the greatest help to beginners on a budget
@scottledbetter7212
@scottledbetter7212 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always ! Sent you a. box of goodies. Should be there in a couple of weeks. Take care !
@hammerheadtheseawing3263
@hammerheadtheseawing3263 2 жыл бұрын
My first engine was the Norfolk Southern paint of this model. The only thing I really don’t like about it is the railings since they’re very flimsy, but other than that it’s amazing for the price. Solid recommendation for beginners
@markhayes6407
@markhayes6407 3 жыл бұрын
You could always put a decoder in it if you switch to dcc& adding a few details and it would be a great engine with sound. Nice review.
@darrellr267
@darrellr267 2 жыл бұрын
I just got one of those from Amazon. I got the Gp 15_1 bnsf. When I took it out of the Walthers box I noticed there was a lot of oil on the bottom of the trucks and wheels. I cleaned it off before I put it on the track. I like the locomotive but it's so slow compared to my other locomotives. I have some starter set Bachmann's that are much faster.
@ParadigmAC
@ParadigmAC 2 жыл бұрын
I have the same one in the video and its very slow too. But it does not seem to struggle pulling.
@FuzionHyperX
@FuzionHyperX 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice to see you back SMT!
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks lol
@martinross5521
@martinross5521 3 жыл бұрын
Great purchase Harrison and really good to have your assessment of its performance and quality. Big cuddles to Nerf Cat… hope he’s liking the summer
@railfanman7709
@railfanman7709 3 жыл бұрын
Walthers train line is literally the best beginner line. All the rolling stock is cheap and good quality. The locos have the drive and weight from a walthers proto. I love walthers ,all of there different level of detail. I would recommend the walthers train line flyer starter set to a beginner
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 3 жыл бұрын
I wish their starter sets were just a bit cheaper.
@a.lil.bit.looney
@a.lil.bit.looney 5 ай бұрын
I've had good luck with Walthers Trainline, I have a DCC Rio Grande GP9M locomotive and it runs fantastically and it's pretty reliable.
@NotGavin
@NotGavin 3 жыл бұрын
I once saw a Bachmann N scale CSX GP40 going for $40 USD on Amazon. Pretty good deals out there as long as you know where to look
@michaelday1073
@michaelday1073 2 жыл бұрын
Harrison, if you want to do a small modification to the front headlight, you can try soldering in a Deans micro T connector to allow you to disconnect the headlight from the circuit card which will allow you to remove the entire shell without any problems.
@prrproductions5469
@prrproductions5469 3 жыл бұрын
Quick tip for the future Piece to trip the couplers: coupler cut bar Cables to connect other locomotives: MU cables
@CentralJerseyRailfan
@CentralJerseyRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Trainline GP9M that I added an NCE DCC decoder in myself. Still pretty good runners after having mine for 10 years although it needed some CV adjustments for smoother running. I may wind up getting a Trainline GP15-1 to do a superdetailing project and a DCC and ESU v5 installation, as it looks to technically be DCC ready which can be achieved by swapping the board. Looks the white plastic thing at the back can be swapped for a speaker too.
@PCrailfan3790
@PCrailfan3790 3 жыл бұрын
My first model train locomotive was a Walthers union pacific 287 and it still works like it’s brand new when it’s like 15 years old
@minnesotarailfan12
@minnesotarailfan12 3 жыл бұрын
You shouldn't have any problems with that loco or any recent Walthers Trainline models. Their detail isn't great but their pulling power and reliability is still excellent. I have a BNSF GP9M I've had for years and it sees heavy use because it's so reliable.
@edwarddillon6016
@edwarddillon6016 3 жыл бұрын
I am finding DCC a real pain, not a fan. This looks a lot nicer to use without all the technical hassels of DCC. Will be purshasing one of these to add to my engine stock.
@4everdc302
@4everdc302 3 жыл бұрын
Good candidate for some weathering and some add-ons.
@piedmontrailfan81
@piedmontrailfan81 3 жыл бұрын
Just wait until we have an AmazonBasics starter set.
@davidtheriot7404
@davidtheriot7404 2 жыл бұрын
Harrison, you have to put some kind of light paint on the mounting posts on the plows. Then you put the locomotive on the track and use a piece of plastic or cardboard that's about 1/8 of an inch think to set the plows on and touch it to the locomotive which will leave paint marks on the pilot. Then drill holes where the paint marks are and mount the plows. But, you will have to trim the footboards at the bottom of the pilots off or the plows won't mount properly. Besides, you don't have to mount the plows as they are optional parts. I would leave them off as the GP15-1 locomotives were usually for yards and switching and most didn't have the plows.
@eisenbahnerharthausen
@eisenbahnerharthausen 3 ай бұрын
Here in Germany, we had once a locomotive from PIKO, a class ES642U electric locomotivefor 50 Euros brand new. It was an excellent Deal, especially considering the high quality.
@DemonSpawnCN
@DemonSpawnCN 2 жыл бұрын
just ordered the Conrail version of this loco....it will be here in a couple days. cant wait to get it rolling on the layout.
@michaelramsey82
@michaelramsey82 3 жыл бұрын
That's pretty good for the money. I have a Trainline GP9M that uses the same drivetrain. It's not the world's best slow speed runner, but it's pretty smooth and quiet once it's going, and for the price, I can't complain.
@kirkbailey1836
@kirkbailey1836 2 жыл бұрын
Walther's has a starter set that that loco is in. It uses Power-Loc track from Life-Like. It is cheaper than some of Bachman's starter sets, and possibly miles above in quality.
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 2 жыл бұрын
I have yet to see one cheaper then a bachmann set but I don't doubt the quality is better.
@PapaMav
@PapaMav 4 ай бұрын
You can always splice in a 2 wire mini micro connector so you can disconnect the the shell fully from the chassis.
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 4 ай бұрын
That's a good point.
@williamlewis3996
@williamlewis3996 Жыл бұрын
i just bought one because I found out that Walthers bought LIfe Like and My Life Like from the late 1990s still fly around the track and beat Bachmann in performance. I am terrible at maintenance too. Because I'm terrible at maintenance, etc. I stay away from AHM used models and TYCOS, even though I grew up with them as a kid. I do love how the entire cab lit up on the old H.O. models while the new are more realistic, not as fun with the lights off. Also, Does anyone else hate Knuckle Couplings?
@40093jjmia
@40093jjmia 3 жыл бұрын
Better than brosdway limited, never buying another loco from them again. I got a a b f7 set n dcale and can barely run 6 coach cars from broadway themselves
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 3 жыл бұрын
I would suspect these would be more reliable due to the simplicity of the design.
@arrow1414
@arrow1414 3 жыл бұрын
Look at the bottom inside edge of the pilot. There seem to be to nubs. I suspect you can pull off the bottom edge of the pilot and snap on the snow plow pilot.
@VestedUTuber
@VestedUTuber 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, it _is_ a Walthers Trainline. Not the most detailed but definitely a nice, reliable runner.
@gatblau1
@gatblau1 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a couple of these Walther’s GP-15 locos in Missouri Pacific livery and I really like them. The model railroad club I belong to switched to DCC not too long ago so I haven’t been able to run them for a bit. I see a DCC conversion in my future.
@GreatNW
@GreatNW 2 жыл бұрын
I have seen these gp15 after people detail them and they make them look amazing.
@davidwilliams5850
@davidwilliams5850 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a great start up Loco. I am looking into the Model Train and this is very helpful. Thank you!
@startrekking359
@startrekking359 Жыл бұрын
It sounds like there's no old school modelers out there ,you need to drill holes for grab irons, also for plow it has a can motor and you were surprised the operation of it, compare to other locos ,with 4 wheel pick up dcc ready paint well not to bad, I would consider it a mid grade, seems to run excellent. It's far from being crap that's insulting to many locos out there.
@jeffreyrobinson2310
@jeffreyrobinson2310 3 жыл бұрын
If you look close you pop out the front parts bellow the couples and pop the plows in
@roscoepcoltrane5499
@roscoepcoltrane5499 2 жыл бұрын
i detailed and painted many for the CNW...back in the day i got alot of these undecorated....for the money, they are better than any of the new stuff...a few bucks of DA and DW parts some good paints and microscale decals...
@liftoff3270
@liftoff3270 3 жыл бұрын
you should get the hornby 0-4-0 called "smokey joe" they cost like 50$ usd and are good runners. there are sold on amazon also first
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 3 жыл бұрын
I might one day, I wish they were a bit cheaper though.
@MPRail
@MPRail 3 жыл бұрын
I got a Santa Fe 8-wheeler it runs pretty good.
@BNSF8500yt
@BNSF8500yt Жыл бұрын
1:35 “the box doesn’t matter” Athern Genesis SD70ACe packaging:👁️👄👁️
@terrellhoward5231
@terrellhoward5231 3 жыл бұрын
You got a good deal, the price, sweeeeeet. I don't buy any of the low end locomotives, but I have friends that do, and a few owns that same exact unit. I'm impressed by the drive train and operations.
@northcoast261
@northcoast261 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve never heard him question something being crap or not before. Should I be worried? 🤔
@crsrdash-840b5
@crsrdash-840b5 3 жыл бұрын
No. The Walthers gearing is far tougher than any of the older Bachmann version. They are made from a better plastic combination.
@jeffreeves2456
@jeffreeves2456 Жыл бұрын
I stand corrected on the doc ready part. However, it does look like adding a decoder would be simple
@missaberange5774
@missaberange5774 3 жыл бұрын
I had a BN GP9 from them and it worked for 7+ years.
@TheCentralTexasRailfan
@TheCentralTexasRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with the points made in this video. I have had a Walthers GP15-1 like this one (except in the BNSF H1 scheme) and I must say it is very good for the money!
@the_autism_express
@the_autism_express 3 жыл бұрын
That's an EMD GP15-1 or "baby tunnel motor"
@RailRoadRex439
@RailRoadRex439 2 жыл бұрын
1:00 to answer that question, anything Walthers is very good for people just starting in the hobby. One engine can handle up to 35 cars on its own, and Walthers cars are also very well made. Walthers models are mostly cheap, but are very well made for the price you pay for them. With that being said, I would highly recommend Walthers for anyone who’s starting out.
@Dannydevito05
@Dannydevito05 3 жыл бұрын
I love taking not cheap but cheaper engines and making them dcc making your own train
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 3 жыл бұрын
I'm curious how much effort it would take to convert this model.
@Bam-uo2xw
@Bam-uo2xw 3 жыл бұрын
@@SMTMainline It isn't to hard I have this same engine just a couple of years older and converted it a year after I got it to dcc and no complaints about it. EDIT your lucky SMT mine never came with a rear back up light. And no it isn't defective the one I have now is actually a replacement for a defective on that had a bad motor in it, It also didn't have a rear light.
@Thebanjoberk
@Thebanjoberk 3 жыл бұрын
@The Nova Fox guy rip
@Bam-uo2xw
@Bam-uo2xw 3 жыл бұрын
@The Nova Fox guy you can fix that all you need to do it flip 2 wires.
@BmdZero
@BmdZero 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! I’m getting this locomotive in a UP paint scheme today.
@CodysTrainz
@CodysTrainz Жыл бұрын
Walthers Trainline locomotives are a great value for the price, they do the job but For my own I just run 10 cars on flats, and 6 or 7 on grades with GP9M's and 12 cars for the GP15's by themselves only on flats since they mostly don't have dynamic brakes.
@Elfnetdesigns
@Elfnetdesigns 3 жыл бұрын
You have to drill small holes into the pilot to mount that plow or use the plow on another locomotive model you have.
@learn_with_gern
@learn_with_gern 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely a nice Loco. Walthers is good about putting effort into quality running gear over super fine detail or features.
@anthonyj.adventures9736
@anthonyj.adventures9736 Жыл бұрын
I have 2 HO scale walthers GP9M's. I bought them new in 2018 from the amazon. To do maintence on them The shells come off by spreading the body slightly. No screws to remove or coupler box. But need to be gentlem the wire to the light has a short wire but it is NOT glued, just taped in place In a slot. Which for real the led snaps in the slot so the tape is really just a factory insurance the light doesnt fall out. Which i have ran them for years with out tape but it makes the shells completely detachable from the frame. And Execpt for the occasional broken coupler never had a major issue. I use bachmann e z mates i want to get metal couplers but can't decide what brand to get.
@kp505si
@kp505si 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Trainline GP15-1 UP, it works very well, another one is i like your video.
@ReadingAreaRailfan
@ReadingAreaRailfan 2 жыл бұрын
Their great locos I have a CSX GP9 and I love it. BTW that's a snow plow that they threw in
@thetrainmaster.100
@thetrainmaster.100 2 жыл бұрын
I have a locomotive that is also from slathers train line, it’s a Santa Fe GP20-2 and it runs pretty smooth, not to mention most of my train cars are also slathers train line, I think it’s a good brand and it’s reliable, the problem I have with my locomotive is that at low speeds it tends to bog out a little bit. But besides that it’s a good brand, I’d recommend it for beginners
@timpriddy349
@timpriddy349 3 жыл бұрын
Missouri Pacific had a bunch of these GP 15s from the mid 70s that still hustle on UP rails in yellow as of 2021
@Proj2008
@Proj2008 3 жыл бұрын
that csx paint scheme it is called yellow nose 3 (yn3) created in 2003 by csx
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@hdtraincam
@hdtraincam 2 жыл бұрын
the beauty of this is short wheelbase looks prototypeish on curves
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