Chease & Desist Style Cheese with Taste Test. To Italy with Love 💛

As a result of a recent Cease & Desist letter that I received from the Consorzio per la Tutela del Formaggio Grana Padano, I have re-edited and uploaded this video for a grainy style Italian cheese that shall not be named. I have called it Chease & Desist Style Cheese.
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[@ltsJustNick]

This Cheese shall be called " Trollerino Australiano"

[@joe_ita]

because of your comment i've ended up loudly singing "tro-tro-tro tro-trollerinoooo a-a-a a-australianoooo" in my room at 2AM to the tune of this masterpiece. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZ69Y2uEfraDmK8

[@davedrewett2196]

Clearly you win the internet today nick. I’m in hysterics🤣

[@ltsJustNick]

@@davedrewett2196 I didn't think anybody will find it funny, seems like curd nerds share the same dull humour! Love it!

[@ltsJustNick]

@@joe_ita Love the tune!

[@mfhulskemper]

As The Cheese That Shall Not Be Mentioned is one of my favorites but has been tainted by idiotic behavior now, I shall henceforth refer to it as Trollerino Australiano. I thank you.

[@neipamocal]

Hahahaha that voice over is perfect, thank you so much for this "new" video.

[@blahokay1]

This is actually hilarious. I never watched the original but I lol'd when I saw his dub not matching his lips

[@Acid_Rain]

you saucy devil. that's one way to throw it back at them

[@arcadeportal32]

"Can't use your cheeses name.. fine i'll make my own name..." lol

[@xpkareem]

I'm sorry man. I got a trademark on the word "Cheese" I'm going to need you to refer to it as "Dusty Milk" from now on. Unless the Milk people get ahold of it...

[@Atomic_Haggis]

That's why it's spelled Chease. No chance of you winning that one! :-D

[@TheFloatingSheep]

Oh you can't call anything that's not actual liquid milk, milk. Apparently plant based milks can't be called milks either so, milk must be the juice squeezed out of the udders of a mammal, fresh and unaltered, but pasteurized or satan himself climbs up onto the surface of the earth and opens the gates to hell to allow all the demons and sinners out. Fresh and raw cow's milk is a complete nono according to government.

[@alexanderbrooksify]

Hard Milk

[@mfhulskemper]

@@TheFloatingSheep It's actually funny how regulated stuff is. Cheese is regulated, but then indeed so are milk, fruits (and the juice you can make from them), grains/cereals and the bread you can make from them, wine, chocolate, eggs... and my favorite on that list: soups. I wouldn't believe it had I not read it myself, but "tomato soup with meatballs" is entirely proscribed as to how many balls, how much meat, how much tomato, etcetera. It's crazy.

[@excitedbox5705]

@@mfhulskemper In the US all food/drink items are required to carry an expiration date including water. In some states water is required to have an expiration date no more than 1 year after it's packaging date. This applies to glass bottles as well and is not related to the chance of plastic leaching into the water.

[@horplesmoff]

i like how the cease and desist basically just got Gavin a bunch of publicity and new viewers. take that, cheese lawyer nerds!

[@kenstein]

The streisand effect strikes again

[@Ryan-nq3qp]

The out-of-sync voice over is hilarious hahahaha.

[@wirelesmike73]

It couldn't have been any better if it were a generic, monotone, computer narration voiceover. lmao XD

[@sirfishslayer5100]

@@wirelesmike73 Like a great Kung Foo movie from the 70's.

[@davey5728]

Actually the process is very different from the real deal. Down under, people stirr the milk counterclockwise

[@GavinWebber]

LOL

[@evemarie1605]

Yes, quite true, if you stir clockwise with a metal ladle in the southern hemisphere then there will be electromagnetic coupling with the Earth's rotating magnetic field which will generate a great deal of static electric charge and eventually cause you to shoot lightning bolts out of your fanny and bystanders would loudly exclaim:- "He's cutting the cheese again!!!". This works best in south Australia which is further away from the Equator plus it's very dry so the electric charge does not leak away before you can shoot your lightning bolt. 😁

[@nannercamping9126]

I found you on a meme site that shall not be named. I stayed because youve made me a curd nerd

[@jeffbeeckman8359]

Stfu we all know about iFunny 🙄

[@organiccraftworks1274]

You need to call this recipe Gavan Padano

[@mfhulskemper]

Gavan Pardono x'D

[@AltimaNEO]

I was thinking Gavan Curdano

[@T3hbob]

Gavan Pedanto. As only pedants get mad for using "Style" cheese in a video.

[@PatriciaGauci]

Well-played, sir!

[@GavinWebber]

Thanks Patricia!

[@GamerSuper91]

@@GavinWebber you need to say thanks to me. I am talk to the studio legale perani pozzi associati. If you want i am talk to you via WhatsApp

[@grottyboots]

Also, you should be commended for your gracious handing of this issue. And I sure hope they treat you to a trip to Italy. Especially if they let you do a video.

[@draskuul]

When you announced this earlier I was thinking "wouldn't it be great if he just dubbed over the name?" Great!

[@TheColombianSpartan]

Classiest, cheesiest punchback I've seen. Ever. Very well done Gavin!

[@danpurdy32]

I have no interest in creating cheese at home, much as I love cooking. However, not only are your videos highly enjoyable to watch, but your handling of the ridiculous [BRAND THAT MUST NOT BE NAMED] cease and desist is a master-class in trolling. Bravo, good sir. You've earned another subscriber :)

[@osu45d]

Already shared this to Reddit, I'm sure they'll appreciate it on there.

[@lordjaashin]

ha there are already some redditors supporting the big cheese and defending the PDO non sense. what did you expect from sissy reddit bois?

[@w.o.jackson8432]

You're not on reddit.

[@mellmag3723]

yup I appreciate it from r/madlad. Came for the badassary. Stayed for the cheese

[@Chlorate299]

Imagine if there was a similar consortium protecting the "Cheddar" cheese trademark, what an absolutely absurd world that would be.

[@MCCENTx2]

KZbin wouldn't allow my name to be Cheddar so I used Ched instead

[@awerellwv]

it's because Italian food in general is the most faked food in the world. Everyone is trying food claiming it's Italian when it's not, that's why we're protecting out food products like other companies protect their trademarks and products.

[@priitmolder6475]

@@MCCENTx2 Ched Maturedalot (aka cheese Chad Thundercock eats)

[@amunak_]

Cheddar is a type of cheese, whereas Grana Padano (and Parmigiano-Reggiano for that matter) are kind of "brand names" (protected designationof origin, or PDO) for cheeses made in a specific region of Italy, but the cheese type is Parmesan (which, retardedly enough, is still a PDO, but as far as I understand it a less protected one?). And it makes sense for local producers to be able to sell a specific, world-renown product under their own name with the consumer being able to verify the quality and origin just from the name. I suspect the law wasn't meant to punish people talking about those products or really anyone who's not actually selling it, but unfortunately this is what you get when you have tens of thousands of European clerks who have to justify the existence of their jobs.

[@giorgos919]

@@amunak_ True Cheddar is a very nice cheese but it was not protected because it was already a generic product name at the time. A version exists with PDO status, I think the name is West Farmhouse Cheddar or something. It is a very beautiful cheese, produced with raw milk and natural rennet and comes in aged varieties as well.

[@mosheshpinel3108]

Careful Gavin, the lip reading lawyers will come after this video too!

[@chocoblocka]

Big cheese are all sat around thinking 'How dairy do this!' Like dare he

[@cedric7751]

I hope you know that PDOs are very far from being the Big Cheese corporation that everyone here seems to think it is. PDOs are gathering of small producers who are trying to protect their product against the unfair competition created by supermarket brands that can afford to produce cheaper due to: -relocating the workforce -buying products in bulk -pressuring raw material producers into selling cheaper or lose business -using lower quality raw materials Some of the producers of the consortium may produce only a few hundred pieces a year, some may produce several thousands a month. Some will be family owned businesses with no outside employees, some will be on a larger scale, etc Trademarking their name not only protects them but also protects the customers. When you buy a Grana Padano, you know that you're buying the real thing, not a cheap industrial copy. As a cheese lover, i wish Gavin did some more research about it because PDOs are protecting everything he loves: tasty quality products made with passion. Gavin often compares his own cheese to the industrial cheese found in supermarkets which he always finds much less tasty but then he gets mad when PDOs are trying to protect their quality product from copied by 3rd parties that may not have the same standards of quality. Their lawyer is not a cheese producer, he is just a lawyer doing lawyer things. He sees a video called "making Grana Padano", he sends his letter because it's his job. It was clumsy and stupid but then again, he is a lawyer. He most likely did not watch the video, it would cost him his precious lawyer time. It's highly likely that just once a year, he just types "Grana Padano" in youtube, checks the title of videos that use the name without authorization and then mass send his cease and desist emails.

[@Moetastic]

@@cedric7751 I agree that PDO's are essential for small producers to operate. I think like you said the lawyer probably acted without really taking the time to watch Gavins videos. Honestly speaking, I've learned about cheeses I've never heard of before on Gavins channel and I sought out cheeses to buy that I never would have had I not seen it on this channel. In a way, this channel is basically free marketing for these cheeses.

[@chocoblocka]

@@cedric7751 it.. it was the pun... the main part of the comment was the pun

[@sweetbriararts]

Hahahahahahaha excellent pun

[@ophliablue]

Omg 😆

[@toyfreaks]

Love the sense of good humor you had about this situation. I like how you upgraded your cheese consotrtium invitation to an "all-expenses-paid" trip to Italy!

[@davidlegare5021]

Just saw the cease and desist video, then was sad when you said that you had taken down your video. Then I see this beauty, amazing.

[@harrisonlauer6346]

“The smell is, ugh I’ve gone to heaven, HARD ITALIAN cheese style!” God bless you good sir! 😂👏🏼

[@nonof_theabove9158]

Dude.... with what all your family and all the rest of us have been through this year. Wouldn't it be such a catharsis if you and your family were to take a trip to Europe as soon as that's possible again and explore all the great cheese making places there. Not only visit one of the [chease and desist] regions but maybe visit the Alps and learn about Alpine Transhumance and its influence on cheese making in the Alpine region. The cheese that won't be named is probably not gonna pay for your trip.... but what an opportunity to do an epic travel and vlog series! I'd sooooo watch that.

[@albertbatfinder5240]

Did you say you were “waffling”? Expect a stern letter from the Waffle Board.

[@AtziLS]

I'm only ever going to call this cheese Chease and Desist Style Cheese from now on.

[@ericfoster3636]

"Cheese and desist", You're killing me Gavin!! LOL

[@Shilag]

Finally! I love Cheese & Desist. I've been waiting for you to tackle this gargantuan in the cheese world for years!

[@captainkev10]

In some ways, I'm glad the honorable and prestigious elders at the consortium contacted you. The popularity of the video reached my recommendations, and now I'm catching up on all your videos I've missed in the past year.

[@Tim.Stotelmeyer.2984]

The background music is a good touch.

[@sparky173j]

It's funny that reading about angry Italians is how i discovered this wonderful channel and hobby. Today I'm cheesing and desisting this recipe. Thanks Gavin

[@GavinWebber]

Good on you Tev!

[@thierrytu]

Grana Padano just lost a lifetime customer and gained a Chease and Desist new customer!

[@CH-vb5kr]

Thank You for not only providing this video, but for the humour in the title!

[@mdbrack]

I expect this video to be nominated for potential awards in editing perfection! Excellently executed and well done!

[@nannymegscrazyfarm]

Oh this live premiere makes it even better! Love your sense of humour Gavin hahaha

[@mjollnirtsubo]

FYI in italian "grana" is slang for *trouble* not kidding.

[@FreedomAirguns]

and money too! :P

[@ejrupp9555]

In Italiano it is, problems or trouble, in phrase ... you are stirring up trouble or making trouble or causing problems. without the phrase, alone, it means grain.

[@ejrupp9555]

@@FreedomAirguns that's UK ...

[@FreedomAirguns]

@@ejrupp9555 I don't understand. I'm from Italy. We also say "dammi la grana", meaning, gimme the money.

[@squirrelonmapletree]

I want to come back to this video, maybe 2 decades or so later, and check out the comments again then!

[@katherinestephenson7426]

Thank you so much for this video, and thank you for not letting them upset you, clearly you DID ABSOLUTELY master their recipe, otherwise they wouldn't have felt so threatened and felt need to send letter. I will never buy theirs simply due to they feel they should have right to monopolize a food I look forward to trying this cheese recipe

[@grottyboots]

Love the name! Love your videos. Haven't yet started making cheese, but when I do, you're my go-to. Cheers from Canada!

[@GavinWebber]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@KaibaKid_]

Really *cheesing* the system here, Gavin! xD

[@dalemckee2897]

'Cheese & Desist', perfect, I love it.👍

[@scottkrametbauer90]

I must admit I'm not a regular nor that big of a cheese fan, but I will watch this video and give it a like just to help it in the algorithm for the title alone

[@ragnaroik]

Very good cheesmaker information. Whatever they think this is not a secret. Making food is of all our interest. And this is it. i remember making goat cheese in my youth, the thought of me saying i am making goat cheese, and i happen to mention in norway they mention this style of cheese as "brunost"... I have meny examples because i did not only do "reduced cheeses". but also white goat cheese, which is my favourite as a compliment to baked potatoes. that said brown sheeps cheese is also amazing as a side dish in a baked potatoe to fish or venison filet. That said if you have not tried a reduced cheese like brunost, for me the origin is "gudbrandsdalen" in norway. this is the most famous "brunost" in the nordic region. I know that my family made this from early 1800 or earlier. I have no proof for this, so this is a disclaimer. My grandfather told me this, how he a a "goat boy" in around 1917 herded goats. it was very common in that area when familys hade many children. we are now talking 10+ in my grandfathers case 13+. He also told me that his great grandfather learned this kind of cheese, which to be honset in those days were quite common. He was very good with family origins research so i think i can find out who the great grandfater was. I want in no way want to debunk the claims of "tine". just want to mention what i have learnt on my life. If i forget this and maybe my father also 80+ this might be forgotten. Tine may take the cred i dont care. just saying that there are more history to this. I have no cred at all. Anyhow, i ranted a bit there, i got a bit re energized by the start of this post. Thanks Gavin for great videos. I would love to see a "brunost" style video. or also simply a aged white goatcheese. 11+ months. Nordic style. I remember in my youth how i ate white short aged goat cheese as a flavour enhancer on alot of things.

[@listinglazily]

I'm wheezing over here with the voiceover! Perfecto! *chef's kiss*

[@GavinWebber]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@eyelidz3561]

haha, so I wasn't expecting cheese and desist name but its perfect.

[@reighngold]

LOL I'm dying at the voice over. This is awesome. I might make this just because of this.

[@martinhroch344]

I love how it has that YTP vibe to it.

[@franklynangie5281]

I love it... I never cared for the "cease and desist" original cheese, but I will make it out of disrespect for the pompous fools at the Consortium. Thanks Gavin!

[@jasonrowe3847]

"Chease & Desist Style"!!! LMAO!!! Please do not cease, and certainly do not desist, your apparently abundant awesomeness!

[@GeelsProduction]

Watched the original videos entirely, and this one yet again without skipping ads. Love the way this story has unfolded

[@GavinWebber]

You're the best!

[@Bassanova100]

I don't know what I was expecting, but I guess I got it.

[@DomesticWithAnMD]

This is beautiful. We had a local brewery do something similar when they got a C&D about one of their popular lines of beer.

[@jbtdmc]

Would love a sample of ”Chease and Desist” here in the United States. Especially with the beginning ”waffling” alone =:0)

[@chillfailure]

This is some real curd nerd shit. You make us proud gavin.

[@bastoktok]

Hi from France Gavin. I've discovered your channel because of this "not to be named" cheese. This a very nice example of Streisand effect, and now i cant wait to do it myself :) And as a matter of fact, my last name mean "cheese maker", and i'm definitely a curd nerd now ;)

[@GavinWebber]

Thanks and welcome

[@kathrynnygaard2311]

I was telling my twin about you, and she was like wait is that the guy who got a cease and desist for her cheese video? I had no idea, this made me respect you even more. This was perfect 😂

[@barrysrandomness]

Gavin, this is absolutely one of my favorite videos of yours. I chuckled every time your voice-over came on to say "cheese and desist". Haha!

[@gondaralonzo6091]

Just made this after hearing about the controversy. I think it will taste similar to gran padano. You're onto something my man. I think we have found it. If I make it with raw grassfed milk next time, I think it will taste even better. Good things are meant to be shared, all secrets will be revealed with time

[@alexanderkomar1948]

You are awesome man! I did not expect this and it made me chuckle

[@xemmyQ]

i just wanna say this is one of my top ten favorite youtube channels and this made me love it even more

[@lolitus26]

G'day Gav Thank you for being such an amazing source of wholesome throughout this pandemic. you rock!

[@Cyberia398]

I love this so much. Gavin you’re all class and a hero to all curd nerds!

[@SamsTwn40]

Thanks for this, I needed a giggle. Love your cheese vids. Happy Holidays!

[@stian2043]

This is magnificent Gav! I love this! The finale we all needed to this story!

[@dexterne]

The perfect finale will be the promised "all expenses paid" trip to italy!!!

[@thomasmathew13]

Omg the voiceovers. This is gold.

[@shanestuart-ramirez429]

Great comeback with a new approach to the "similar" info. Thank You!!

[@faillblogkeyboardcat]

A big part of me was hoping you would do this. Well done!!

[@robargereality3096]

LMAO! Fantastic response to their letter! Bravo sir, you've got a new sub!

[@4000inbound]

I have just stumbled across your videos and have been following the Cheese and Desist story. This video is both hilarious and fantastic. 😆

[@kumakami1007]

I cannot express the level of love for your wonderful sense of humor I have....thank you

[@brissygirl4997]

Love the new tongue-in-cheek name Gav, well done! I hope lockdown has eased again in Vic and you aren't roasting too bad from the summer sun. Whenever someone asks cheese-making questions on other channels I always refer them to you.🙂🇭🇲

[@matthewb8229]

Oh my god! What a great title to the final video of the C&D trilogy! The cease & desist letter was the first of your videos I'd seen, and this turned out to quite the adventure.

[@richwood2741]

The title is absolutely the best. Keep up the great work.

[@PicaMula]

Left this playing on the background just to count my old view back here ;D

[@tracker2340]

Well done sir, well done indeed! Thanks for all you do, I so enjoy your videos!

[@LordZugZwang]

well done, gave me a good chuckle

[@avanjou]

LOVE that you actually did this! The voiceover is awesome and this is a hilarious way to response to the c&d letter.

[@avanjou]

Also, I'm here for Cheese and desist merch! Would buy.

[@mfhulskemper]

Great stuff, Mr. Webber -- I love it. Ab-so-lute-ly love it.

[@VisualOrchestra]

Absolute LEGEND Mate!

[@jbtdmc]

Your ”Cease and Desist” letter video was recommended to me...so this is my first time actually watching you doing your passion. You have a new subscriber and a ”Curd Nerd” who has not made my own cheese since my arthritis kicked in 22 years ago.

[@GavinWebber]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@cherylperkins7538]

Well now, I'm going to HAVE to make the "granny paddi nana" cheese. And that's a STYLE

[@gigifdubois]

Well played! Love it! 😆😆

[@florentcerruti5332]

Very well done !! So clever ....

[@DerekMurawsky]

Fantastic! Love the humor here!

[@boester69]

This is pure gold, amazing

[@rolandofuret2658]

Gavin, I have no words, BRAVO

[@neilfisch6533]

I've been watching you for a while, but you have now set yourself above!

[@JTMusicbox]

This looks fantastic! You really know what you’re doing and make the process seem less intimidating to a novice like me. I’m new to the channel and I love the way you handled the situation with humor, but I’m surprised they didn’t initially handle things more considerately in the first place on their end...

[@Gonbane]

And now you got me into potentially making cheese at home. Thanks for the new hobby!

[@deankellogg11]

Cheese and Desist! Love it!

[@meibo2831]

Love this video! I'm enjoying all of your content but following the fuss from the cheese company at you, I'm glad to see that you didn't back down and showed them what kind of cheese you're made of. Thanks for that.

[@paulbickley658]

That's strange I could of sworn that I subscribed to this channel earlier, I did now. I will share this video to my Facebook account.

[@Phoenix38m]

absolutely brilliant!!!!

[@killerdamocles69]

Your overdubs of 'the cheese and desist' in the tasting section made me laugh so hard! I wanna make my own cheese now!

[@hadesspeaks7948]

As an Italian, all hail chease and desist

[@ophliablue]

I love everything about this video

[@MrFimpster]

My favorite video today!!! Well played, Gavin.

[@kristys7172]

I love the new title!!! Awesome.

[@frugalaudio]

I was hoping you would edit and re-upload! Good job sir.

[@Kishgofu]

wow this seems really similar to Grainy Padainy

[@Douglas.Kennedy]

or Grunko Padunko 😁

[@xjehoofdx]

I was just reading up about making cheese as I'm trying to find a new hobby during this Covid BS. Coming across this video and the other explanation video about what happened 100% convinced me to pick up cheese making. If there is something that I love more then making stuff from scratch, it's to stick it to the man. Rebuilding a fridge may take me a while but as soon as I do, I'm making this cheese!

[@kennyofficial2607]

never thought i would say that a artisan cheese maker would ever be my hero. but you gavin, you are my hero :D