Cheater vs. Cheater!

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0:00 Intro
2:10 Game 1
8:58 Game 2
16:05 Game 3
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[@GothamChess]

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[@3fj]

daddy

[@arneekdahl]

Ok

[@arthurioffin]

pin of shame..?

[@oatreogd]

so if I do it twice?

[@yareyaredogze6084]

@@DagonFrazer bot

[@papesldjnsjkfjsn]

this is like your 100th video about two cheaters playing each other... and i'm gonna watch every second of it

[@yareyaredogze6084]

@@DagonFrazer bot

[@DatFrogGuy]

@YeaMan noooooooooooooooooooooo your not a bot

[@reyne2077]

@YeaMan thats what a bot would have said

[@youtubeviolatedme7123]

@YeaMan Regardless of whether you're a bot, self-promotion is eye-roll worthy.

[@F-35BLightningII]

@@DagonFrazer Bruh, youtu.be. Really. What the fuck

[@zachjost1236]

Very bold of you to assume they are cheating before taking into consideration just how powerful a good gaming chair is, Levy

[@skagenpige88]

Well that would be random.....unless he is being payed to advertice a gaming chair o_O

[@Hifivemaster_]

@@skagenpige88 it's a meme for gaming, when someone is cheating, it is common for a joke to be that they have a better (insert gaming accessory that really does not mean much). This could be the gaming socks that were viral, or as said in this comment, a gaming chair

[@skagenpige88]

@@Hifivemaster_ Oh, thanks...ive missed out on that meme.

[@sadsatisfying6942]

​@@Hifivemaster_ does not matter much?

[@L3gend_G5]

True true good point

[@niklasreiman8995]

Can we just appreciate the fact that these guys get 98% when cheating but Hikaru can play 100% honestly.

[@Lion-eb3tz]

He can’t play 100% but he can play like 94%

[@restinginpeace--8876]

@@Lion-eb3tz he actually got 99.8% even tho he chose not to play the best move at some point cuz he said "that would probably win on the spot" and he didn't want that

[@Spontanieoussue]

​@@Lion-eb3tz no he played above 99% whd so did magnus. ( a lotta engines even say it's 100% , but top stockfish god says it's 99 pr more)

[@zilkyy3111]

levy has truly masterd the ways of youtube.. not only is he entertaining but he also teaches at the same time. Now thats the way to do it

[@bryanpaguay1197]

I started loving chess because of Levy.

[@yareyaredogze6084]

@@DagonFrazer bot

[@ansisxd6073]

Same although I smash my table when I lose.

[@stormer8036]

Levy started loving me because of chess

[@Lakshya_Plays_Minecraft]

Same

[@LebronJames10644]

🚴🏾 🍆

[@mariansimon1007]

it's so hard for me to resist skipping the sponsor when the video is the only thing i'm payinf attention to but for papa gotham we sacrifice

[@jayure1346]

Fr

[@abandonedhhhv]

Gotham is nice

[@anthonys9581]

Yes we sacrifice THE ROOOOOOK!!

[@dankness420]

We sack our time, and it’s worth it

[@nathanielhayden5919]

Yessir

[@Sparkzh2o]

“Two cheaters going toe to toe” is funny enough by itself. But then he hit us with the “And then cheater 2 played another cheater a few games before that!” Had me laughing harder than it should have.

[@carsongxd]

Whenever you feel bad about your play, realize that at least you are not a cheater. These “players”, if you could even call them that, can’t even play a game without bot assistance. I’m proud of you, 500 rated player.

[@frankjaeger760]

I've beaten human 2500+, and lost to bot 1000. The whole thing (online elo) is a fraud. I've played games where 800s make 0 mistakes, blunders and 1 inaccuracy. I only still have my subscription because trial ran out and they auto charged. Will use it to learn the book fully but then I am done if this isn't sorted.

[@carsongxd]

@@frankjaeger760 good!

[@fluffymunnyman]

I’m into 450 but gracias

[@had0j]

thank you

[@blaxai6485]

I love how its technically just 2 engines against each other which is boring in itself, but levy always turns copper into gold

[@RekhaDevi-iz3os]

He can alter Atomic Structure

[@RekhaDevi-iz3os]

Also just violate some couple of basic laws of physics

[@PMARC14]

It isn't just two engines, its also two players trying to play coverup aswell which spices it up a lot more.

[@Person01234]

2 engines isn't necessarily boring especially if you spice it up by throwing in unconventional openings and unconventional moves in there. Engine games are "boring" in that you can play 10,000 games and like 99.99% of them are going to be straightforward draws but when there's an interesting one, they tend to be entertaining because the engine will make move after move that makes no sense to a human but is actually good at a higher level than any human is thinking at.

[@sunderkeenin]

Part of what is so interesting is just seeing the different engine strengths, as they don't necessarily play to the full strength of the engine even if they're calculating at a depth which should offer higher strength, or if they're calculating at higher depth they're taking top moves of a lower depth version of the same engine by trying to sandbag, for example. Cheaters playing cheaters is more interesting than plain engine play because of stuff like that.

[@thatverseguy]

Dude really could have made a movie out of that 2nd game lmao. It was just that crazy and only Levy could convey that so well

[@jegannathS]

That was the most accurate description of a chess cheater i have heard from anyone ever. The game is so addicting and not always so rewarding, making people resort to cheating. That was the most accurate one and levy you couldn't have said that one better.

[@pianopiccolo4111]

Wow. The sheer intensity of the game and Levy's commentary during the 2nd game were spectacular. Such a great entertainer.

[@aldocort3418]

Today's stare didn't t feel like a stare. It felt like a bigger brother Tryna knock some sense into us. You da man Levy!👊

[@yareyaredogze6084]

@@DagonFrazer bot

[@echosaurus09]

@YeaMan bot

[@synrisyt]

Hi levy ❤

[@youraveragejoe3349]

​@@DagonFrazer wtf is that username

[@zakskingdomm]

Yeah too bad hes Jewish tho 😔😔😔😕😕😕😕💯💯☝🏾

[@slordwastaken]

It's crazy how big chess has grown because of this man. Thank you Levy.

[@MrSimpsondennis]

I'm too low elo to understand most of these reasonings and moves, but I just love the passion you bring the story with.

[@harrypotter4806]

I still remember those days when Levy use to be angry for having no sponsors now every video has big sponsors behind them. This guy has grown tremendously.

[@junior523]

Ok Potter

[@Alex-ix9kc]

Levy is so entertaining I really watched the whole sponsor💀

[@Fatalgh0stt14]

Like who doesn’t 😭💀

[@MyUsernameisDifferent]

levi is the best chess influencer

[@Youssef8B]

"I'm going to be so sneaky" -Cheaters, 2023

[@Da_Dev]

Get milked and humiliated infront of millions of people for content -Levy, 2023

[@Mmm_Chezburgerz]

As someone who gets more inaccuracies than best moves, getting 1 would be a remarkable achievement.

[@warrenfeng1570]

GREAT VIDEO LEVI btw I rly appreciate all the chess help you've given me for the past couple years and through Covid when I started to play more

[@The7thAz]

"Finally, a worthy opponent. Our battle will be legendary"

[@materysakcz1995]

I started loving levy thanks to chess

[@hana-ov1ju]

bro I lost braincells trying to understand this 💀

[@jalensos8982]

Lmao i switched levy and chess in my head when reading, had to double check due to the other comment

[@chrisdonnell7200]

Technically probably true tho

[@Abinav_08]

Whaaa

[@shashankshekhar6952]

​@@jalensos8982 I realized I was reading it wrong after reading your comment lol

[@HotRat00]

The reason why levy is so fun is because all the emotions he can show while talking about chess 😂

[@MrTrogdornkc]

Started watching your videos and it made me want to play chess again. My first game in years and I was able to spot the wayward queen early and absolutely punish the bot thanks to you. I was also able to utilize my king's positioning much better than I ever thought to as a kid. I like the way you talk through the thought processes.

[@erlinghaaland3444]

Cheater 2 must have had the strongest and fastest chess engine known to mankind coz mans got 98% accuracy playing every move in 2-3 seconds or maybe its magnus in disguise

[@Ayush-zs3kf]

Computer vs Computer could be boring .. But when levy farms cheaters.. There's nothing better than that 🗿🗿

[@richardlynch9549]

15:30 sounding like my dentist after I've been a little irresponsible for a while lolol

[@gian-marco6047]

I haven't played chess in years but I'm so happy that a game like this still has severe cultural relevance, even among the youth

[@c4n0vsk1]

Hey Levy! I love your videos, please keep up the good work and give us more quality content!

[@AhimtarHoN]

19:44: "F4 - mistake! Why? Because of that move." while black moved an absolutely irrelevant pawn one square ahead was comedy gold lol

[@yulingzheng8841]

When Gothan runs out of ideas he doesn't steal from other people, he steals from himself.

[@cmGolfer]

Thank you Gotham for Producing so much stellar content, time to go smash that like button!

[@Ccsmo]

​@YeaMan you should !!!! YOURSELF right now

[@cmGolfer]

@YeaMan u r a bot

[@cmGolfer]

@YeaMan respond to My comment if you are not a bot with any other comment besides what you bot

[@b8rek]

🤖

[@kevinchen5167]

@@cmGolfer True as it is, you can't just drop the most unoriginal and unrelated to the video npc ass comment and then try to call out a bot. Far as I see it your attempt at like begging is arguably more botlike than yeaman

[@Maros554]

Thank you Levy for uploading a video today so you could give my dopamine receptors another hit.

[@_ICARUS-]

@Sniper 😂😂😂

[@joeutm212]

Instead of banning them they should be forced into servers where they only play other cheaters, that’d be great.

[@jazzmouse2498]

This video is essentially just watching two computers play each other

[@dylan_1313]

Loving these vids! Keep up the amazing work!

[@tyrantishrl]

Thank you for being such an informational teacher to all of us when it comes to chess. I began learning chess more and more because of you

[@foadmoalem4908]

i love how a “game” my parents put me in a class for has exploded in popularity recently and thanks to that i now use the sentence “HE SACRIFICES, THE ROOK!” randomly for no reason

[@ElGravyVids]

You play your pawns in a line because you cheat, I play my pawns in a line to roleplay a wall of pikemen; we are not the same.

[@ponyboy6802]

Youre the reason ive gotten into chess lately. Love the content

[@micha9240]

Your courses make me good at chess and I only wanted to thank you for that.

[@JoelGDDSweden]

The stare today was something special. It gave me a certain feeling inside. Like i have been empty inside up to this moment. Thank you for this stare levy. 9/10

[@nightone9720]

I love Levy so much 😂 "King moves cause top engine move....." These cheater videos are my favorite because Levy explains every move in a way where he states human logical thinking but then shows what the cheater did and it's obvious that there is no human logic behind the moves being played.

[@swaggermcgee726]

"Great Video Levi" Also won two games of chess earlier today because of your videos! You're a great resource! Keep it up, and thank you!!

[@sarad2487]

Wow

[@joecool2.020]

9:53 That’s meta. Cheater 1 does not know they are playing cheater 2, they just know they are cheater one. That says a lot about the human mind/heart/soul 😂

[@legomaker87]

My new favorite quote "What does he play?... Of course...TOP ENGINE MOVE!"

[@guillaume6399]

Thank you Levy for the work you do ❤❤

[@disruptor6550]

That was a hilarious video. At the same time it's pretty sad to see that so many people cheat in online chess. Sadly, it's only wishful thinking that they'll ever go away.

[@georgetown2180]

Is this the only video where Levy doesn't stare at us in the beginning?

[@potatoes3513]

levy is such an amazing creator. Only someone such as levee could make content like this with such enthusiasm every day. Thanks Leveigh for your amazing contribution to chess!

[@coketictac22]

Lehvie is so great!

[@lukablazevix4487]

its Læve

[@proton8827]

stop misspelling léighviæ’s name

[@pablow9044]

Why can't any of you spell Leighvay?

[@shellershadow-rw3ty]

It's obviously Layvie

[@deadgameplayer9358]

It would be really nice if you explained some of the more absurd moves in detail, so we can incorporate those ideas into our games. love the content

[@jarpo64]

Amazing stare, your eyes looking down thoughtfully was beautiful. 9/10

[@thememedealer1]

Just beautiful.

[@blast7700]

i agree the look in his eyes was great 9/11

[@OG-YT]

Absolutely stunning as always.

[@DagonFrazer]

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[@yareyaredogze6084]

@@DagonFrazer bot

[@hamdiabdelalim2472]

That stare to the side is 10/10

[@malakahmed4101]

​@YeaMan no one cares

[@DagonFrazer]

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[@yareyaredogze6084]

@@DagonFrazer bot sends link to how to get bots banned

[@taylorbrown661]

My favourite moves are the ones where Levy's like 'idk man, bots be botting'

[@nchess1044]

I'd like to see a series where two cheaters cheat deep into the middlegame and then we drop them off their engine and force them to play on their own and watch the hilarity ensue.

[@eccentricbass3730]

It would be hilarious if Chesscom didn’t ban cheaters, but instead shadowbanned them to only play against other cheaters.

[@thomaskia8441]

they should do an extra mode for cheaters where they are allowed to cheat.

[@s_ame1135]

@@thomaskia8441 What's the point of doing that? The initial suggestion was discouraging them to cheat by playing against greater cheaters but a mode like that just plainly encourages them.

[@_Snowflame]

IIRC, Fall Guys tried this by banishing all hackers to a "Cheater Island" queue. According to the studio, this would damage the game's reputation as hackers posted clips of the hacker queue to Instagram. You get some asshole turning off their cheats to post a game where everyone else Superman leaps to the end, slap some skull emojis over it, and watch the "ded game" comments roll in.

[@dfbhsdfh4399]

Great video Levi! I was expecting something else in that tab... not an easter egg ;) I was looking for copper and found gold

[@DanceofKings]

Hey Bro come to my channel youtube.com/@DanceofKings

[@DanceofKings]

I need to your help!

[@CatvinityJustAnEditor]

*67 Excellent Moves* *95 Best Moves* *43 Great Moves* *17 Brilliant Moves*

[@littledeathmark8991]

Both of the cheaters be like: Aha! I was expecting that move

[@marmalade6332]

Day 2: Levy you are an absolutely incredible teacher and the ONLY reason I have gained 200 elo in the past week is because I watch your videos, thank you so much 🙏

[@usshaaa]

I love all the work you put inside us

[@twin_towers_destroyer]

🤨

[@dyson_sphere]

r/holup

[@jayure1346]

💀💀💀

[@joecool2.020]

Whaaa

[@wasifamir4908]

Pause

[@LeniconDev]

This is like beyblade. It all comes down to the better beyblade setup to win for you.

[@criticalcommentary]

As you can see, they basically used 5 or more seconds of time every move. It takes 5 seconds to get an answer from a free engine.

[@rafaeltrajano4065]

came back to chess because of this guy I'm still bad but it's still fun hahaha much love from brazil❤

[@DanceofKings]

Hey Bro come to my channel youtube.com/@DanceofKings I need your help!

[@zacharywoolstenhulme5614]

Am I the only person that thinks we can learn more from studying cheaters games than we can from studying bots playing each other? P.S. congrats on the award Levy, you deserve it

[@s_ame1135]

Is there a difference?

[@zacharywoolstenhulme5614]

@@s_ame1135 absolutely. Knowing what a bot plays against a bot is essentially "perfect theory " Knowing what a bot plays against a human teaches us "perfect play"

[@Scribzee2nd]

Just imagine one of the cheaters watching this video and being like: Ohhh, that's why I was supposed to play that.

[@qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm-a]

They're not cheating. They've just got a good gaming chair

[@h3role691]

Great video levi! Keep it up man!

[@meowymeowz3948]

levi

[@Youssef-iu8dn]

Your videos are amazing Levy! Don't stop and ride the wave!

[@yareyaredogze6084]

@YeaMan bot. Report for spamming.

[@DagonFrazer]

*Link to the clip : How to get bots banned* kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYe0kKSertSXhpY

[@yareyaredogze6084]

@@DagonFrazer bot

[@EvolMe]

im just some nobody but i would really love to see you cover 2 cheaters where the game ends in a loop and it becomes a game of who can manage their time best lol

[@fishflop2312]

great video levy! i love the part where he brutally rips out the cheaters organs! 😁 Keep up the great work!

[@ob9896]

Todays stare was curious, surprising and fairly arousing. Keep it up Levy

[@Opraissuu]

🤨📸

[@ob9896]

@@shreshthatiwari6994 hello mister

[@ob9896]

@@Opraissuu what you taking photos of?

[@najimi41]

"arousing" 🤨📸🤨📸🤨📸🤨📸🤨📸

[@ob9896]

@@najimi41 can a girl not be aroused by a man?

[@megaminerm499]

Hey Levi, for Cheater vs Cheater games, how did the cheaters take 1-5 seconds per game. Don’t they take 5-10 seconds since they have to put in the moves, let it calculate and then do the move?

[@porucznikarmiipieseowskiej8512]

I've played against my friend in school. I had 95.8 accuracy without using an engine as 600 elo player, 0 mistakes 0 blunders 0 missed opportunities for win. I hope I won't get banned for that.

[@darkaquatus]

I actually learn quite a lot from this. Like the way you should think out lines of attack and strategies and how to stick to them. It's kinda funny to see how a computer will ditch any attack ideas immediately the moment something minor changes on the board.

[@swapnilalamarko2438]

Could you imagine being 1 of these guys and hearing Levy talk shit about them in a sarcastic tone.

[@frankjaeger760]

Appreciate this. Had a funny game with a similar opening. Nice that you are comparing alot of my play with a 2700, even though I need learn the book.

[@dantebrown6692]

Todays stare seemed distracted and impatient, perhaps Levy has dinner plans and needs to wrap this video up quick. It made me feel cheap yet reminded me Levy is a human and I'm not entitled to his enthusiasm, despite this rushed stare he still decided to bring us top notch content and that is truly commendable and displaying of his unwavering dedication. 10/10

[@user-bq2ue9fi4s]

c'mon Gotham that GM title is in sight, we are all rooting for you.

[@brodiemorris2081]

real

[@shuomao7869]

It's impressive that those cheaters are so bad that they couldn't realize how ridiculous their moves are. Like a kindergarten kid showing off how they solved a 2nd order nonlinear PDE by hand.

[@KLightning18]

Theory: The account was made and someone lost a lot but then they got angry and called in their GM level brother.

[@pandaboi156ahuman6]

I just want to say how much I appreciate your content. Todays stare was 10/10.

[@ninjazshadowop]

When you get 415k views in under 10 hours, that's how you know you got an honest audience.

[@chesscrush]

11:50 you forgot to mention that if black decides to take the Queen after Qe7 exd7 is checkmate! Yeah white saw all of that after he played Qd5 of course 😂

[@infinity1281]

11:53 that is so sick... black can't take the queen because pawn takes bishop is a smothered mate since the black queen is also pinned by the rook

[@Yp8000]

Today's stare is a 6/10 intimidating but not looking at the camera truly an interesting moment in the chess world.

[@khigaming125]

Todays stare was heartwarming 10/10

[@Seborg123]

True dat

[@DagonFrazer]

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[@yareyaredogze6084]

@YeaMan bot

[@yareyaredogze6084]

@@DagonFrazer bot

[@Lukqru]

@YeaMan even if ur not a bot I do not care

[@Hurateo]

Thank you levy. Keep making content.

[@bobbobert9379]

I remember seeing a dude during a flight shamelessly cheating at chess. But not even with a traditional engine, but by playing the moves as the opponent on his MacBooks chess program vs its engine.

[@vitorgomes5513]

The sacrifice of that Queen for time was crazy

[@ColinTimmins]

This was one of my favourite videos, and I had thought the last one was. Keep it up. =]

[@shellershadow-rw3ty]

If it wasn't for all the cheaters I play every day, my Elo would be like 2253 instead of 850

[@fuooo8653]

"and he sacrificed THE ROOOOOK top engine move"

[@colethetroll03]

Cheater 2 should've underpromoted to a rook at the end of the last game

[@davidkeyzer]

that second game was crazy

[@mastermurtle400]

somebody should make a compilation on how many times Levy said "top engine move" in this video

[@runningonempty9980]

One cheater to another: "You know the rules, and so do I"

[@thediamondcasino1978]

The cheater who lost must’ve been like “HES A CHEATER”

[@ibaconstudios3263]

Dare I say it, but a match of cheater v cheater is not only the most fair, but also the most engaging battle to watch