Cheating at 19k ELO During Free Cheat Weekend in Premier!

Valve really needs to do something fast!
Cheater Profiles
Makima - Perm Link: steamcommunity.com/profiles/7...
Winner (19k ELO) - Perm Link: steamcommunity.com/profiles/7...
Lowenbrau - Perm Link: steamcommunity.com/profiles/7...
ibn-taymiyya - Perm Link: steamcommunity.com/profiles/7...
zack - Perm Link: steamcommunity.com/profiles/7...

[@Liquidskwid]

It sucks to never know if a death was your fault. I'm glad we can review demos again, but for a while there I felt lost. One game I'd be popping off and drop 30, the next I'd be lucky for 12. That's not to say it was all cheaters, but if I can't pinpoint my own weaknesses when I'm unfairly killed. IF they get the cheaters under control, this game could be magic.

[@Marzaries]

You can still improve with cheaters.

[@LeominsterFC]

@@MarzariesSpotted the cheater.

[@tryeasy1634]

@@Marzariesnah, can’t really improve upon anything when a dude with a scout pulls up to a corner, and proceeds to 1 tap me within a millisecond of him appearing

[@PC_Ringo]

Never gonna get it under control with vac in its current state 😢

[@Marzaries]

@@LeominsterFC Your cognitive dissonance prevents you from believing otherwise.

[@OwOG420]

what Vlave needs to do is to quit the passive approach they have had against these scum for years now, declare all out war against them.

[@KaraokeNig]

What would that look like in your mind, all out war against online cheaters ?

[@ztker]

making VAC actually detect aimbots, aim locking, tracing people through walls, etc. VAC does not work and has never worked properly @@KaraokeNig

[@ceryhlol]

somehow riot made a proper anticheat, maybe try that. and make bans linked to something else like hardware aswell@@KaraokeNig

[@dob2664]

@@KaraokeNigmaybe start by introducing an anti cheat? All of these unskilled cheaters would be immediately flushed out by the introduction of an AC like faceit client. To catch a greater portion of cheaters who have access to better developers, they can start by hiring cheat developers to help write them anti cheat measures like EVERYBODY ELSE does

[@justgary4342]

They need cheat lobbies. Send em all there. Let them all have fun together.

[@zedolok4508]

pls guys, send a report to valve with more demos and proofs, because theres a huge chance valve is doing a manually ban, this guys can't keep up playing

[@zzz-hp4qs]

Bro we just keep buying accounts, sorry lilbro

[@zedolok4508]

@@zzz-hp4qs dont feel sorry for me, keep buying account, in some moment somepart of you are gonna be hurt, its gonna be ur wallet or you frustration

[@_ZHT]

​@@zzz-hp4qscheating against legits, that's pathetic

[@taconamedpaco]

Zack changed his ID to /id/Poorbassplayer

[@rrevolutionn]

@@zedolok4508its 50c a account

[@bakedpotato7991]

what can I say, great game, playing against this shit all the time and they go unpunished, like people wanted 2 things from CS2, 128 tickrate and Anticheat and we have neither and there is even more cheaters than was in csgo

[@h4rdc0r3noize]

Well you cant blame them, valve literally told the world (cant find the post now) that their anti cheat is having issues and not working as intended and that overwatch is being replaced by AI AC.... Everyone knows reports are useless because overwatch has been removed (except for grief, which atm is being abused even more than it was in csgo because all the legits just auto report every1 because theres always atleast 1 cheater in every game now)

[@TheBaracudaGamer]

climbed from 1k to 13k in a few weeks, can confidently say that cheaters become alot more prominent when you get to 10k. cheaters in over 50% of my games.

[@nemesiz7175]

thats true started from 3k too close 10k and now i saw the first cheaters lol rip

[@iarmycombo5659]

Players who are better than their elo in mechanics and game sense but dont remember to use them/panic/lose focus easily (get emotional over bad plays by teammates or themselves or over good plays by enemies and thus lose focus) will look exactly like a noob player who just gets insane plays sometimes but other times do dumb shit silvers are known for. Because they are a great player who cant consistantly use their skills (you can argue this makes them not a great player, sure, but they still have the capacity to once in a while make a great play, that doesnt originate from pure luck and thus can play consistently for one match way above their average skill level and then again bring back the average level when playing badly in other matches.) So I highly doubt you are correct with that 50% cheaters part, unless you have verified that in over 50% of the games there was someone banned or blatantly using aimlock or wallhack in the demo. Since demos havent been on for long, maybe thats not relevant but to clarify, what they here called wall hack is not blatant enough. I want to see player tracking through walls middle of the head for 10 seconds straight while moving in random directions without any sound cues. I want to see 10 consistant middle of the head instant flicks from far away in a row. If the playing cant be described with any of those, the player is as good as any other player at that elo anyways, so shouldnt really matter but thats a whole another thing.

[@TheRealPureOwnage]

@@iarmycombo5659 Closet cheaters are a thing, inform yourself better.

[@naiog]

@@iarmycombo5659 im gonna call the 1 badge 100-300 hours with a 80% HS rate and a 100ms reaction that can destroy you while YOU are the one swinging and not even having time to react,i get prefiring i do it too but when its literally every time i swing the same person it happens,and its like they are undefeatable. its just not realistic to say they are not cheating. if they were actually that good they wouldnt be around 10k elo. and these kinds of players are in every match ive played in premier aside from 1,ive only played around 15 or so because its so bad. usually 1 or 2 possibly on both teams, sometimes literal just HVH from both sides. premier is horrible right now.

[@remstesthd6784]

yeah its often the new accs they do these insane pref & reaction time@@naiog

[@alan_food016]

i have a cheater in my friendlist since 2017 and he is still cheating his ass off. No Vac Ban yet. I used to watch like daily his games when he was online via the watch-option ingame... Its disgusting.

[@franciszekmoszczuk6974]

4:43 Can you tell whoever was on the mic that they need to exchange their smoke alarm batteries?

[@mdonig]

It'll probably be months before the last of these guys are banned.

[@kuumottaja9877]

noub.. its gonna be years

[@KaraokeNig]

It can never be 100% stopped, best hope is major reduction.

[@mdonig]

Oh I know it can never be stopped but a timely ban that doesn't take months would be nice. I was once qued against a hacker in prime that was full on using airlock through the wall killing everyone with the auto, download the demo and there was no doubt he was hacking, he didn't get banned for almost 3 months, he stacked up almost an additional 300 hours before the ban hammer came down.

[@KaraokeNig]

@@mdonig That's lame i know.

[@dob2664]

Are you convinced that this game has a sufficient anti cheat?

[@TurfdGreat-dn8vp]

I uninstalled the game, as I figured that theres abundance of these nerds out there. I refuse to play with losers. 😂😂

[@JohnDoe-cq9no]

True. 👍

[@dancampbell6958]

These guys deserve a nice spot in hell for cheating

[@egecvn]

Valve: That looks legit. Btw we made a new case *-*

[@malekswagger9662]

what do you think about giving a vito vote to a trusted comunity member or a valve emplyee in overwatch and whoever contradicts him on a blatant cheater becomes a non valid judge?

[@Maddhands]

I dropped 2000 elo this weekend and was wondering wtf was going on 😂 I try my hardest not to blame cheating

[@jeffreywyskiel6582]

I have went to 9999 6 times already. Now with demos back out, I been looking at some suspicious players and I would say 8/10 times, they are cheating. It's not just the enemy players but people on my team too if I solo/duo.

[@hattemalhaar3135]

Look at the global leaderboard, so may cheaters on there and I've matched plenty walhackers while queueing with friends at 5k ELO

[@jeffreywyskiel6582]

@@hattemalhaar3135 There are alot of cheaters in 4-5k elo because of low trust factor. They get boosted and can only get some much elo for the wins. The whole system is busted and I could confidently say that it's much worst than CSGO ever was in the 12 years.

[@Astelch]

i got placed in 2000 elo and now im 10k. When climbing i didnt notice any effy players until 8k+ when i started noticing some weird ass players. If i could i would rather smurf in 2k elo than play in 10k where cheaters will toggle on and off in a match.

[@JohnDoe-cq9no]

Why would you try not to blame cheating in a cheater game? 😂

[@Sclanktestreint]

someone in this vid needs to replace their smoke alarm battery lol

[@klintdavid9664]

what is your cs2 video settings? i feel like you have a good balance with visuals and performance. i cant find the right mix in my rig. maybe yours can help me.

[@mrt8418]

There's very little more rewarding than playing a tough game of CS and knowing it was a fair fight, but there is little more demoralizing than playing against cheaters and getting your ass whipped by a player that is clearly cheating and there is almost nothing your team can do about it. Please Valve, do something.

[@tinokosova3356]

Valve ain't going to do a damn thing about it.

[@GregorGorjan]

same in mm. now that the replays are back it is quite clear. and also you can see it in stats. 2 out of 5 games we played had people with WH and in one occasion a guy decided aimlock would be good. one idiot tried to hit me though vents/AC on vertigo. the 2 games where we can't see any cheaters were against a lot better players so we (the casuals) got defeated. and the difference between losing against much better players and cheater is so obvious. also i did not mind to lose against them. it was in both cases a good game and good effort by us. i learned a lot from those two games. but i hate the games with cheaters.

[@masshitters930]

Valve this shouldn’t be happening. Invasive AC is a must these days.

[@AlfaPro1337]

"i dOn't wAnT the CCP to sEe me!" "i doNT wANt to bE hAcK dUe to rIng 0 dRivEr!" 1. Steam already has a CCP backdoor, Valve isn't stupid to create a separate executable for China. 2. Blame Valve for not fixing any bugs, Valorant, so far, I haven't yet to encounter a cheater.

[@benvmourik5311]

People will still be able to cheat with the new machine learning cheats, dumdum. Valorant is not cheat proof.

[@masshitters930]

@@AlfaPro1337 Valorant is dog shit.

[@masshitters930]

@@benvmourik5311 I’m afraid in the future having a KYC element will be needed.

[@AlfaPro1337]

@@benvmourik5311 "new machine learning cheats" Yeah, like everyone has a 4090 or RTX A-series and able to do smartly avoid detection.

[@ryanbrooks389]

I am curious if you know what happened to Cactus and a lot of the top players who completely fell off leaderboards?

[@thewebbyshow1132]

They didn’t play for a few days and lost a bunch of rating. The one that was #1 lost 15k rating for not playing for 8 days

[@ryanbrooks389]

@@thewebbyshow1132 oh thank you so much for this response that is crazy it works like that.

[@LadySaya]

Too many cheaters in premier so he isn’t a big fan of it right now

[@thewebbyshow1132]

@@LadySaya very understandable

[@Franwow]

@@LadySaya sayaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[@gj4560]

Hey John, what's the crosshair code for the small dot crosshair you used in this video? I really like it

[@riker8214]

I really wanted CS2 to have good matchmaking but unfortunately I can only really play Faceit. I canceled my Faceit when CS2 came out but the higher elos are bullshit and hackers every other game practically

[@abdoukhaled6261]

yeeep true even facit have cheaters

[@riker8214]

@@abdoukhaled6261 at least not as bad as MM it sucks that’s the best we can get

[@ATR-_]

Cheaters are prominent pretty much in every bracket. I started at 1k and peaked 12.

[@riker8214]

@@ATR-_ yeah but it’s not going to be nearly as big a problem at lower elos because bad players with cheats are gonna win against bad players without. So they don’t stay there. And they get placed higher than the average gold nova

[@Satanelul]

Yesterday I played some wigman, my teamate who was hacking was acusing the other hacker from the enemy of hacking entire game. both of them was doing prefires and watching trough walls

[@Well_Shady]

I'm yet to play competitive in cs2, I'll wait until it's a bit more playable, and obviously these kinds of shenanigans aren't very encouraging either.

[@morfindog508]

Just play on faceit for now, Valve is really never doing something big.

[@bigdaddysilver5048]

So is this the new meta for your channel until valve brings some form of player jury?

[@heypistolero]

Linking profiles is based, thank you for letting us report them

[@kinpaebbasta430]

The blatant cheaters are ez to identify, the good players turning on/off wallhack or even low % softaim are hard af in my opinion

[@Jus7here]

ahhh kinda but not really. Most of them have better reaction time than pro plays when picking, because they are cheating... They will pick looking at you in an off angle 90% of the time. To catch some of them, pretend you are going to pick while running and stop before you do. It never fails to catch a wallhacker.

[@gaborvarga6567]

@@Jus7here those are still bad players , if a good player is cheating thats much harder to notice, it could be as simple as having radar , or 0,5 fov aimbot ( which is really low ). They can easily get away with them if they are not totally stupid.

[@itsuppies]

The fact they arent even banned still is crazy....

[@GnabberGnundalf]

Because you spoke about the meaning of "Löwenbräu" - it is a name of a beer in germany. Like Beck's for example. Literally it would be "lion brew" in english.

[@yackerist]

bro who are you playing with that's just fine with a smoke alarm just beeping lmao that's wild.

[@MrGreenprolol]

imagine Makima is not banned yet i saw his profile, nice cs2

[@rodney3297]

Thanks for posting

[@serpent410]

Its been some time since you uploaded a video. You alright?

[@unluckyrgg]

remember when we tried to play and saya's cs2 didnt want to work in overpass

[@IntergalacticBrowny]

You know, I thought there were more suspicious activity the last couple of days

[@bened1ct1on]

It stays always only a pious wish that valve someday might do something real big against cheaters. The coders have already adapted to the source² engine and it won't get better until the company finally puts a big amount of cash in developing an all new anti-cheat.

[@lilrosebush]

Ok are cheaters really this rampant at prime too? Cuz I can never tell/ try and give the benefit of a doubt unless it’s blatant

[@bixcs2]

I wasn’t seeing many blatant cheaters until I got above 12k now I’m just under 14 but I can’t play premier cause I have cheaters in 3/4 matches

[@CS2tipsnclips]

Glad we got demos back at least... bout time

[@clearclear6237]

Keep going 🎉🎉🎉

[@DereineLord]

I literally played with someone in the top 10 world whos cheating its very severe...

[@linkedsnake6021]

Löwenbräu means Lionsbrew in German, its a German Beer

[@marcellhvh]

memesense going brrrrrrrrr

[@fao5917]

I can't remember right, but I think Löwenbräu is a german beer?

[@kova5892]

Löwenbräu is a beer manufacturer from germany btw ;)

[@XRAY81]

Tibaw, post their permanent profile link in the description as they can change their profile ID later.

[@placeholder2033]

That explains why this past week/weekend I ran into back to back cheating 3 man queues and usually I only see one cheater maybe once a month

[@cerealhit555]

The issue are bots like you who pretend no one cheats. I have 14k hours on my main alone, every single match I play is cheaters vs cheaters. When I join a DM and spectate it's always 90+% cheaters. Stop giving your opinion on something you are clueless... unless you're a cheater and just gaslight

[@49999]

I already left CS a month ago

[@stipss1996]

You've linked wrong link to the lowenbrau guy.

[@gubodaniel9523]

Löwenbräu is a beer brand. :D He must be some1 from eastern eu.

[@mdonig]

2 weeks later and none of them are banned. Most have played today. VAC truly sucks.

[@TheRealPureOwnage]

It's a joy watching their profiles get mass reported. KEEP IT UP GUYS !

[@taconamedpaco]

Zack changed his ID to /id/Poorbassplayer

[@divAPEX]

Winner and Löwenbräu are the same link

[@darkstari]

Why is it that cheating always multiplies at weekends? I play 3-4 hours a day at nights and in weekends there seems to be REALLY hardcore grinders or just cheaters on every game I play.

[@WhereIsTheSpartan]

1:15 - The name is a trademark of a German brewery. It can be translated as "lion brewery".

[@dillonatkinson5974]

The fact its been a month and they still not banned

[@ronronn3148]

yeah this is why i play valorant now. the cheating in this game is fucking ridiculous.

[@Lawsyboy]

And this is why this game will remain uninstalled. I've zero confidence that they will ever sort this out.

[@JohnDoe-cq9no]

True. 👍

[@frank6048]

Hey John, this guy Lowenbrau and Winner play together often and it was obvious both are cheating. I found Makima suspicious for various reasons you didn't mention but obviously not as blatant as the other 2. Lowenbrau has an account with +10K hours and only 1 game. The most stupid thing which makes it obvious he bought it is that that account only has 1 year and 11 months, meaning he'd have to at least play 15 hours every single day for 2 years. Yet has only 21 official matches registered on that account, out of which 5 were found to have friend of his cheating and VAC banned (the player is not present on this match) Lately he's been stacking with a group of 5 (again not the players of this match), and it's pretty likely they all cheat. That said I can assure you you'd get back the -114 ELO you lost in that match as he's too dumb and decided it was a good idea to cheat when matched against other streammers and top rankers like Fl0m and JoJo, and being too conspicuous (He still lost while cheating against them by the way)

[@taconamedpaco]

Zack changed his ID to /id/Poorbassplayer

[@themadnes5413]

He might get banned yeah, but he will be back in 10mins after he got another 10k hours account for 20$. That's the problem.

[@premiumfruits3528]

almost 2 months later and none of them has been banned, 4 of them turned comments off on their profile, Zack looks like it's possible his account was stolen at the time and he got it back after, also possible he was just trying them out because of curiosity

[@4694salman]

It's definitely True that there's a lot more cheaters on high ranks. But honestly, CS2 is messed up too. I've hit Headshots when i didn't even have the aim on the enemy, much less the Head. Such stuff needs to be fixed first to determine Cheaters correctly. Sometimes people will be having a Good Day or a Lucky Game. I've both been that and been against such players. Gotta be pretty good to vote ban Cheaters.

[@imwaifu433]

As someone who has experience with reverse engineering. He started looking suspicious at 4.30 tbh before that there wasnt anything that was sus or blatant

[@MysteryDoorStudio]

Big skills 😂

[@toothlessthefc4394]

reported them all, was surprised to see 10+year medals on some. hope Valve gets rid of them

[@nixazizuotac]

the fact that video is 1 day old and peopole alredy did report him and he still isin t banned

[@Oehr64EatShitGoogle]

Link to winner and löwenbräu are identical. pls fix :-)

[@lullebulle2]

Bro i was 11k elo, then from no where i dipped to 5k in 2 days... must have been around the same time as this i guess...

[@Bliss_Hop]

Wait until he finds out about the turret exploit

[@zecko6992]

Lowenbrau is a beer my dude.

[@omkar2571]

26k views surely at least 1k reports have done still not banned noice

[@n01z3]

checked back in and nope still no bans..wow

[@denis921]

gg

[@nesnalica]

when they added leaderboards i was baffled cus it never worked and never will. the top ranks will just be bloated by bots or cheaters and then whats the point

[@x3Viper0o]

Löwenbräu is a german Beer Brewing Company :D

[@ledhermanlp4647]

Austrian here the name Löwenbräu is actually a brewery from bavaria they have pretty good beer xD ;)

[@hattemalhaar3135]

what valve really needs to do is overthink their attitude towards kernel level anticheat in a competive game because ppl will always try to get an advantage and this is just embarrasing

[@Dr.Bernardo]

I do actually think the AI anticheat is the ultimate anticheat. They just need to do the correct implementation

[@NKillBruh]

but then there's the pretty small but still there DMA cheaters

[@bwest0179]

It's sad that they're still not banned. Like what is going on Valve. You're anticheat is fake legit. I think they forgot to turn it on.

[@KeebaAfrica]

As a 10 year vet in csgo (im old af now) It pains me to say Valve doesn't care unless it makes them look bad in the publics eye VS the communities eyes. All of those profiles have been playing recently and no bans or nothing have occurred.

[@Lowenbrau670]

Löwenbräu is peter griffins middle name.

[@gubodaniel9523]

They did something cheeky, we can't report "Winner" & "Löwenbräu.

[@MrPacman1212]

i went to report them and it turns out i already reported 2 of them already from wingman matches

[@flammenjc]

Weird thing is how prevalent cheating seems to be in NA vs EU

[@mikehibbard8971]

“Winner” changed his steam display name and pic to TiBaW! Lol😂

[@ChefJollyRoger]

lol put in his profile your logo TIBAW xD still not banned it seems

[@Joke89ful]

the problem for me is not that valve wants to move away from Faceit the problem is how they are doing it. I saw one video of one Montenegrian or Serbian ANti-cheat developer , he made anti-cheat for Valorant and in this interview he said it is not cheap to battle cheaters and that could be the reason why Valve does not pay somebody like him to make proper anti-cheat for them.

[@akiuarasan]

It would drain Valve's hard earned cash if they ban cheaters or hunt em manually piece by piece lfmao.

[@petskup4]

I like that possible gun skins is not prize for the win games anymore. Cheaters goes far beyond from the own low level. Games is much funnier now without cheaters .😊

[@freezfrog6969]

Still not banned - wow

[@TheElCanu]

time to play faceit guys

[@craigreustle2192]

When cheaters get banned don't they just make a new account?

[@crunchy3157]

even they delete 128 ticks i still play faceit and many people does just for the AC

[@techhead-bedhead]

winner has changed his name to tibaw

[@septicbooger]

cant tell if im the best legit cheater or the bar is just this low

[@timchikun]

löwenbräu means lions brew 😂

[@disaster99]

Valve gave us old user submitted updates as a new game and added one achievement....I don't think they're fixing the anti cheat.....

[@bosskake702]

TWO WHOLE MONTHS AND NOT ONE OF THEM IS BANNED

[@hosse1ntj822]

It's seems Valve don't like to do something against cheaters or change the name of the game to cheaters strike 2 WTF ARE YOU DOING valve ??!

[@gigachad6844]

Winner changed its name to TIBAW 🤣🤣

[@taconamedpaco]

Zack changed his ID to /id/Poorbassplayer

[@MadazzaMusik]

My headshot percentage is at least 70 percent so I think I just get matched with cheaters

[@MCPabs]

What do they get out of this? People will never think they are good and if the point is to annoy enemies just go full spinbot they are getting nothing out of this ffs.

[@Marzaries]

Why do people watch porn? It isn't the real thing yet you still do it.

[@lezlienewlands1337]

-They enjoy the reactions -It's a power trip -Some got cheated on in the past and started to even the odds -It's their own brand of game

[@Marzaries]

@@lezlienewlands1337 I would say that's only a small portion of the whole. I think people cheat simply to replicate the experience of being a clutch player.

[@JohnDoe-cq9no]

Is it dead yet?

[@asiftosay]

"Löwenbräu" means "Lion Brew", like a beer brewery