Cheating Incident In A Home Game

Funny call about a husband and wife in a home game apparently telling each other their holdings. Bart discusses what to do in a home game environment.
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[@CrushlivePoker]

What would you do in this situation to help to mitigate the issue?

[@swooopg]

I would keep my mouth shut and use the free information! It's a home game, not a casino, you just can't be sure if she is telling the truth, she probably said A3 on purpose when she did have AQ. In a casino I would definitely say something to the dealer almost immediately though.

[@swooopg]

You know with a southern draw queen and three do sound alike!

[@pepperidgedave]

I would tell everyone at the table and ask them to stop.

[@brianjirka7340]

I agree with Bart. I'd go to the game runner and talk to them. If its not dealt with thoroughly I'd never attend that game again.

[@zack1445]

I would not get high as balls

[@philipmann1468]

High as balls, folding out if turn, yelling out her cards. Not hearing her correctly. Epic

[@gonecoastal4]

Plot twist: This dude was not even playing poker, he was in a cow pasture talking to a pack of raccoons and a turtle.

[@oiimaboi1702]

Yeah

[@stevenl9388]

This guy should get his own detective show.

[@parallelpatterns]

This is great.. just gets better and better, starting with the "and btw I was high as F"

[@fateaglio]

HAHAHAHAHAH he probably imagined the whole thing. Ive done this before when i was high af

[@swooopg]

High as balls, that's the level I've been chasing for years! Lol

[@damonsantore2345]

Bros to the moon

[@willowandluka5302]

The dude was high while making this call

[@williamzagarella8066]

@@fateaglio how often do you smoke lol? I always smoke before I play and by the time I sit down and start playing the shits already wearing off🤣

[@AnguzBeef]

I would have just been like "Oh you have A3? Is it suited? What suits?" lol

[@bobm7275]

good answer

[@idahogreen2885]

Omfg this was the best christmas gift callin EVER. when he said how it ended up with the three and the queen tangent........oh jesus man. Laughed out loud and long man. Keep dabbin garret!

[@JMacSD]

Yeah she probably said "I have phase three" talking about the condo she's buying, or "I have to race tree" or hell just "I can taste brie" how the hell would high as balls caller know? Hell I gotta give him props tho I'm chicken to play on more than 1 drink every couple hours, don't have the balls to go near a poker game high as balls.

[@swooopg]

@@JMacSD Shoot after grinding out 8+ tables of 6-max online I don't think I can play one table live without a little weed, just sooooo dang slow and boring!

[@keithkelso9872]

I play better drunk…but not too drunk

[@TheDjcarter1966]

Key piece of information...this is my FIRST time at a home game that's been running for five years...sit down shut up and since you see this crap going on play out the night passively and the just don't go back...the end... especially if you don't know the people at the table you just never know what's up offend someone and it just might not end well.

[@joepescitheelement]

High as balls? Is that GTO?...

[@swooopg]

That's WTO, Weed theory optimal

[@lukeleonard3382]

So long story short im hight as F and im not even playing poker! I was in my bathtub yelling at my electric toothbrush about collusion.

[@therbeeo5364]

The thumbnail is epic hahah. Love the content Bart! I've learned the most about cash strategy from your shows, so thanks man.

[@josheisert8380]

I always wondered what happens after a guy comes on here and trashes a guy then sees him again after villain has heard the show himself.

[@sr4087]

Plot twist; hero so high he is just hearing the maskies speak when they aren't

[@philg6115]

Please make sure your callers have an I.Q. over 70. It makes it better for the listeners. Ty

[@stt5v2002]

This reminds me of the situation I faced in casinos a couple of times. Probably most players have. The player next to me was either very inexperienced or drunk or both. He would pick his cards up completely off the table to a degree where I could not avoid seeing them. When players do this, I let them know that I can see their cards and suggest that they protect them better. But some players simply don’t or they do a better job for a few hands and then revert to their usual pattern. Of course when that happens, I have information that I’m not supposed to have and that the rest of the table doesn’t have.I’ve never been completely certain how to deal with that.

[@alexh8613]

It's easy, you tell him to stop doing that, and protect his hand. But you also don't blurt out his hand to the rest of the table.

[@swooopg]

Yeah I've seen other players cards a few times and I usually let them know twice, after that if they don't protect better then I will crush them, I'm not telling someone 3 times, they will either figure it out or go broke

[@Face_The_Void]

Exploit it

[@philg6115]

It's your obligation to let all the players at the table know what cards you saw. Otherwise you're a cheater

[@williamzagarella8066]

@@philg6115 if you're purposely not saying anything to use those 2 blockers to your advantage later on, yes, but for somebody who encounters that situation for the first time may not know what is proper ettiquette.

[@danielmeuler2877]

I had an acquaintance who happened to be a "Mechanic" show me a how easy it is to deal off the bottom and how to set up a deck. He told me what he was going to do and I still couldn't see it. For this and a few other reasons,,, I Don't play Home Games. Poker is hard enough without me worrying if I'm being cheated.

[@sammerritt8]

This callers a legend... oh and by the way I was high as balls

[@mavriksc]

bart expanding into seinfeld territory a video about nothing :)

[@jambasket211]

Scrolling the comments to see if this video was going anywhere, and thanks this post, I was able to stop watching. Thank you!

[@JoshCosta]

Omg I actually laughed so hard when he said it was Ace Queen.

[@josheisert8380]

I'm confused. He misunderstood what she said plus he is high. Are we even sure he heard them collude about the hand??? She could have said are we going to Arbys or McDonalds after the game for all we know now... geez... lol. Merry Christmas everyone.

[@kineahora8736]

I think that’s why the game continued as normal: once he was wrong about the hand, everyone must have concluded “whatever dude is high”

[@swooopg]

You do realize with a NC southern draw queen and three sounds a lot alike

[@kineahora8736]

@@swooopg Not all “Southern accents” are the same. I heard the president of Duke University and his beautiful accent sounded nothing like this caller’s...

[@swooopg]

@@kineahora8736 true

[@MOJOERASER]

I am tilted no wait just high

[@mothecat776]

BART. Reminds me of a couple of Slavic origin were colluding in a game speaking foreign language. At the Borgata circa 2005. Mixed hold'em omaha. But they were Soooo BAD that the other players by tacit acceptance allowed it to go on. They allways lost.

[@kineahora8736]

Voice a bit like Hoyt Corkins. Hilarious he misheard her cheating!

[@chrisvincent8777]

This dude fucking kills me hahaha

[@straight_flizzy]

I love how Bart thought it was hilarious that Garrett was high as balls!

[@alexh8613]

You don't go to the person running the game. You casually say it in front of the entire table. Something like, "hey guys, you can't talk about your hand when the game is still going on." You don't call them out and say "cheaters!!!" But you just give them a heads up. She very well may not know the proper etiquette. Let her know, but don't embarrass her.

[@swooopg]

That's true

[@stupidrules1000]

I agree with this take 100%. Your first reaction should be to assume mistake before malice. Especially if it seems like the guy is teaching her how to play. She likely does not know table etiquite or even the rules. When I first started playing, even in casinos, there were times when I would talk my hand to the person next to me, or with a friend and think nothing of it, until I was called out and explained the rules/etiquite. (Also, I was playing super low stakes, so nobody really cared....but still, I didn't know until I knew).

[@thejunkwarrior]

Dude wrote Bart “should I fold quad 6s, villain might have quad Qs” 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@JMacSD]

best part: well the turn & river went 6 6 then villain shoved - I totally should have known he had quad Q amirite? (I can only imagine how many thousands of hands he reads through that are pretty much "look at the bad beat I got!")

[@thieuly3706]

Garrett, where in NC?

[@hotrodsather]

"What should I have done next?"....Move to the left of them

[@EricA-xd9fn]

Because it's a home-game, I think a little restraint was justified. Maybe you let it play out and *between* hands ask the table whether the girlfriend announcing her hand bothers them. That's a more subtle way to apply pressure, without being confrontational.

[@ThePdog3k]

Kill them all, scoop.

[@waveswebdesigncom]

Sounds like Caesars during high hand promos from locals (they were drawing for 10k seats with quads) seemed like all the locals were telling where they were at when having PP ..

[@stupidrules1000]

"And this is where the high as balls comes in" hahahahahahaha Classic. They are either colluding he is high as balls. Really, she said "I need a drink." Lol. This is great. Title should be what to do when you're high and think people are colluding....but they probably aren't.

[@superpete7462]

Wtf. Funniest call in ever

[@Mo_Ketchups]

This guy just does NOT LISTEN! 😖😖

[@luisnido]

Not a hard issue to resolve. Immediately (and politely) say "hey guys, we can hear you. Please no table talk." It will almost certainly stop immediately. If not, call them out in front of everyone. There is no defense to what they are doing after a warning.

[@willh4340]

If this was a casino, you would say goodbye to hidden fees??? 🤣🤣🤣 It literally popped up with an ad that cut you off and said, "Say goodbye to hidden fees" lmao

[@monacojerry]

Another relevant question is whether there is rake in the game. If there is rake then the people taking the rake have more of a duty to keep the game straight.

[@monacojerry]

@@berdyderg900 That is not what I said at all. I was asking a relevant question about who is responsible for taking care of the game. In a game without rake the responsibility is with the host but less so. It is a collective responsibility among friends. I think either my writing skills or your reading skills are deficient. Which?

[@monacojerry]

@@berdyderg900 I see you are dealing in deliberate nonsequitors. The question is who in a specific home game who has the duty of responsibility for taking care of the specific home game. Please learn to read. LOL.

[@monacojerry]

@@berdyderg900 In the long run we're all dead. After that comes entopy and the heatdeath of the present universe. You see I deal in happy nonsequitors. Also I'm an athiest. Happy Winter Solstice to you. And I hope poker and chess last until humans are no more. 😌

[@cryptoartist5167]

Bart, you are above the shocked looking thumbnails man

[@mikeob6325]

True he had info others did not have ...he must tell everyone immediately

[@shaunfugate4655]

In the future, please lead with, " I was high as balls." Bart, JS you gotta use that clickbait SON..... lol I only wish I had a home game that was good enough that I could print while tripping balls.

[@guybrushthreepwood8174]

I don't think anyone ever asked how good or bad are these two ? If they're fish I guess I wouldn't even really care.

[@ruudbakstra1805]

Exactly. They probably are huge fish or at least the gf. Just let them have fun in a home game. You than still have a huge edge. Call them out and they might not come back. Conclusion: Let it go = +EV

[@Samscoinsandheavymetal]

Calls are getting ridiculous Hard to listen to lately honestly He asks what should I have done nexts at 6:09. How about why did he play one more hand after the hand where she says you may as well call now after he was apparently pot committed He kept playing He knew the circumstances He’s the fish and that’s why the game goes the way it does Cuz of guys like the caller Sorry but the calls really just a waste of time

[@shrekogre6597]

I understand why the other "dealer" says the caller may be colluding with them because he is building a pot at the expense of all other players.....

[@John-dw8rz]

"ass load of callers"

[@1981lemberg]

LOL LOL that is the best stories you put on the air?! I should call the show. I probably have a hundred stories that will easily top that

[@CorporateSmitty]

This guy doesn't seem too bright i wonder if she said something totally different and this bozo made this up in his head

[@officeofpeaceinformation5094]

Male female couple - must be in Asheville

[@brianberg9944]

High as balls = extreme paranoia

[@FaithfulReasoning]

cheating goes on in home games all the time, there was a guy in our local game who used to keep one card hidden somewhere and he had 3 cards to make a hand and we wondered why he won all the time until he was busted.

[@alexh8613]

Which brings me to my next point. kids....don't smoke crack!!!

[@raswartz]

Thinking about how the caller misheard "A3" makes me think this could be the set up for a short con. The narrative of a good con often involves "accidents" that makes the mark think they have an edge when in reality they do not. For instance, what if the couple waits for a big pot, let's someone "accidentally" overhear their hand on a big pot. You think you have them beat because the board misses A3. You go all in only to find out they could make a set of 6s. You can't call them out on it, because they would have to admit you were trying to cheat them. You also have to blame yourself because you "misheard" A6 as A3. You don't even know they were conning you. This specific hand may not be the best example, but the key thing about a con is that the victim has to think that they are the one cheating somebody else. And the con artists could create the perfect situation for someone to try to cheat them - the incentive of a big pot, the opportunity of "knowing" their cards, and the rationalization that they probably deserve it because of the way they have been table talking the whole night. I'm not saying I think that's what's going on here. In all probability, they are just jerks with bad manners. But it does seems odd that they would say A3 when they had A6.

[@eltoroloco1936]

Caller=High AF then and during this call. :)

[@iammark301]

How you address this may be the most important thing. Asking the speaker if they intended for others to hear may be an option, as it reveals if the speaker cares if everyone hears, and clears a path for proprietor to address issue.

[@jackscofield6299]

Saw jungle?

[@georgewbushcenterforintell147]

I run into a few cheaters in Texas . One was a famous lawyer who got cheating at madhouse poker club in Austin .another was a Vietnamese dealer named Con . I had a husband and wife working together I called them out I was uninvited from then. I was at the black Phillipino ghey game in harker heights I had a guy steal some of my green chips he pretending to be drunk and fell on my chip stack . Another Texas poker ripoff is the rake . Sometimes they rake every street so 10 pre flop 10 on the flop 10 on the turn 10 on the River plus take a green chip 25 and make change give back only 10 or 15 in red to the pot . There is one thing in Texas I wish the poker world would adopt its the concept of poker insurance . If you would like to discuss poker insurance I need 20 min.

[@lazyman114]

take your time

[@georgewbushcenterforintell147]

@@lazyman114 poker insurance is insuring you win the pot no matter the cards coming or bad beat that we feel is coming . So I'm at the farmhouse sat night 2-5 no cap . Me and Cambodian dragon get all the money in on the turn I flop a set 4s he has AA he only has 2 outs . Before the river is delt the house ask if I want insurance at 4 % per out so for 8% of the pot I win even if A comes out . Being a decent poker player u should never take the insurance but this is Texas and a crazy Asian action poker game orientals vs farmers vs a cop vs a pimp from Killeen and some military I take the insurance gonna cost me about 160 to win 1000, 2000in the pot . Sure as bread and honey will make you chit.. A on the River . The house has to pay me for my loss 😊 and the action player dragon wins and the game gos into degenerate condition level 2 when millionaire Dave shows up and pays for someone to leave there seat .I miss Texas poker but I think I've giving up playing for awhile

[@revbenball]

Postle has a girlfriend?

[@danielarthur3110]

Setting southerners back another hundred years

[@willowandluka5302]

This is why I never smoke pot while I’m playing poker lol

[@williamzagarella8066]

I always smoke before I play lol. Idk how often yall smoke but I'm a pothead and by the time I sit down and start playing I'm barely caked anymore lmao. I never "imagine" things

[@jonathannagela2130]

I was cheated by a couple in a local chicago area casino. The couple in question always sat next to each other in live games but stunk so nobody cared. But when the casino offered tournaments suddenly they crushed it. I was in a tourney vs elaine and ken was sitting behind her. On the bubble I bet allin and she was thinking. He was behind her looking at her cards and he told her-"you cant fold" she called and i lost. then I made a yelp review and got banned from the casino.

[@lostmagicdude888]

what a fucking boss when this guy said "I just heard her say she has A3" what a boss

[@theredneckpokershow7747]

Merry Christmas fam

[@joshswanstrom5849]

Just walk away and tell the proprietor on your way out. All they need to do is put them on seats 1 and 9.

[@Truck_Perry]

Garrett right after the Robbi incident: 0:00

[@Dreamville512]

Did the caller have the players covered?

[@ThePdog3k]

Yeah, but he was smoking an active strand.

[@bradrobinson9085]

Bart's reaction at 13:35 lol

[@jmaessoan1]

Am I the only one that gets the sarcastic title. Funny shit!

[@aaronsoto4622]

I couldn't listen too that guy for another minute.

[@ianclark2665]

Me neither, I don't know why but he gets on my nerves.

[@degreek21]

Or she could be angling here. She said A-3 to make her hand appear weaker

[@aaronbrumley8937]

She actually might have said I have a three making it look like she’s telling her husband. She has a three so people can hear so she can call in Win, so she’s angle shooting

[@nitemareman1]

If she's saying what hand she has, and I can hear it, I'm not saying a word and I'm going to relieve her of her bankroll.

[@mikezulu1378]

Not if you are hearing incorrectly. However,, maybe it was her intentions to announce a weak ace.

[@ThePdog3k]

especially when she flops the nuts

[@swooopg]

@@mikezulu1378 my thoughts exactly! She knew what she was doing, or not, either way home games are a different animal all together and you have to be careful, assume everyone is cheating somehow and play accordingly

[@billybubba8344]

The only question that maters: was she hot?

[@SFreedberg1]

call ins must be weak if this one made the cut - I guess I learned something from the call - call it out in casino and home games are nuance - some high as balls guy - who the hell knows what really happened lol

[@FastdounutTV]

Fucking love this dude 😂😂😂

[@let_it_rock1]

This f'n guy lol

[@gregoryfoster8179]

I play online and a lot of players use "420" in their screen names. Their play usually reflects as much as well. As far as this situation, the host or dealer just needs to explain to the lady the rules of play and carry on. Probably a mindless comment is all.

[@restotech9445]

Bart can you be my dad?

[@RodgerRamjet]

home game..... if this is friends.. or just "friendly:".. i have to say " Hey jack,,, carol.. please wait until the end of the hand to reveal your hands... not during.. ".. Capeche ? and do it before any more play is completed.. even if you have to "KOFFKOFF" to interupt.. and maybe say " hey, i know you coach such n such,, but, ya gotta wait until after the hand to coach..".. and try to smile it off,, and maybe just KILL THE HAND.. period.. and try to treat it as an accident.. but thats making a lot of assumptions on the people involved..

[@bakaraymoo7389]

I just want you to reflect on the fact that you used 10 ellipses and 0 periods. Are you 12?

[@eugenesis8188]

But should the guy have folded the quad 4s? I'd be a profitable player every single day if the answer is yes. Id just also fold literally every hand.

[@theejayzeeable]

IMPORTANT QUESTION. Is the caller's "high AS balls" the same as Bart's "high OFF my balls"?

[@krt88nc]

You have to announce that right away. And how do you know action is not on you? If you’re in the 7 seat and the action is on the 4 seat! Oh brother.

[@JMacSD]

Also love the thumbnail with Bart's "No Fucking Way" face - is that photoshop?

[@philipmann1468]

If she is telling me what her cards are, I’m happy to play her all day

[@Gos1234567]

Yea I just don’t see what the problem is,just the caller has bad hearing 🤣

[@aaronharding1290]

geez that's 16 minutes Ill never get back. People don't play cards on meth!

[@Williy_Nilly]

Colluding no, cheating yes!

[@StrideRunner68]

It's a Home 🏡 Game where it's like 20$ per a game ... [5] year long game their not dropping 100s or 1,000s in right... Just Snap out that others are cheating but don't keep playing cards with Dirty players or Hands... exposed but keep it friendly if it's a 5 year game 🎮....

[@michaelb4090]

I hear ya Bart but that paranoia goes away after you smoke several times.... Then your just very comfortable... Just my experience lol

[@fastfunpokerjamie124]

The problem with home games is that soft play and collusion are usually the norm. Maybe the weed caused the caller to have heightened sense and he was able to hear what no one else heard. And of course the atmosphere of a home game during the pandemic is going to be made up of degens that don’t care about a little soft play. I mean maybe the game breaks if you have 8 barts there but w random NC degens I would bet nothing short of the place being on fire would stop that game.

[@thepossieguy]

Lmaoooo what a call

[@MustangScott]

Maybe the moral here is "don't smoke weed and go play poker" haha.

[@tomrichardson9799]

Just announce earlier in the game that if you two are discussing hands you need to stop

[@michaelb4090]

Dont think him being high actually mattered this happens every so often when people r smucks

[@JackFate61]

Sure beats "Jessie The Suit"

[@t4404]

this is hilarious

[@groovygrover190]

Oh I forgot this is for $5 no doubt

[@ikickpuppies01]

I don't get how this one made the cut. I would say something right away. If they didn't I would cash out and leave.

[@alexduque3105]

Hillbilly hell

[@pullt]

Why would you share this story when your local crew knows your voice?

[@jonduberman2573]

lmao thats how we do it in NC

[@steveharding8965]

Don't say anything,you may have an advantage.

[@1981lemberg]

Lol I can tell you thousands of instances people cheating in a house game. Not proud of it but I've been a part of it I seen it all