AlphaZero and the Golden Queen Knight

[@ChessNetwork]

Happy New Year 2018 !! twitter.com/ChessNetwork/status/947697796806795265

[@bobbywalter5964]

i guess I'm kind of off topic but do anyone know a good place to stream newly released tv shows online ?

[@bishopgarrett306]

@Bobby Walter I use Flixzone. You can find it on google :)

[@OwariNeko]

What I've learned from AlphaZero: 1) Play for position 2) Lock opponent's pieces in place 3) Mock opponent when you win

[@vladlaz1344]

"And your bad bishop was very bad, again" ahahahaha

[@phyngineer]

Will stockfish ever learn? :)

[@AuraRift]

I died laughing at that. Alpha Zero with the tough love

[@aztecachess4512]

i loled really hard

[@DracoVolantus]

this self-taught National Master is best commentator of chess on yt imo

[@ashharkausar413]

Draco Volantus I wonder if there is anyone that's as good as him or better. He has a very majestic way with how he explains moves.

[@burt591]

AlphaZero seems to be a specialist at trapping the light square bishop

[@betterbelle29]

burt591 I know right. I even loved the comment he put at the end. "Your bad bishop was very bad. Again."

[@pierrejeanes]

Carlsen is taking notes

[@negin1812]

What I noticed about alphazero games, it always has a lot of space and stockfish always sits on back ranks trying to defend the pieces alphazeros staring at. So neural network teaches us good lesson that attacking is a winning strategy and defending is not

[@willmunoz1638]

Alphazero: *exists Bishop: I fear no man. But that meme... Is dead

[@superfisto]

Thanks Jerry. Here's to a happy new year! It's always nice to hear your voice and analysis.

[@ChessNetwork]

Thank you Mr. Cain. Happy New Year to you as well.

[@spectaclegamers7185]

mrcain

[@Jonathan-pq4hs]

For someone who doesn‘t have many chess experiences, these videos are so fun to watch! Keep up the good work!

[@isaacong77]

Watching an old video since you didn't upload today, didn't regret it at all! Your content is golden, Jerry :D

[@homerp.hendelbergenheinzel6649]

ngl im here for the 4th or 5th time, if not even more. i love the alpha zero game. and jerry ( the best), too xD

[@JasonLayton]

Your analysis is really great Jerry. I’ve learned so much about positioning from your breakdowns of the alpha zero games. Thanks again.

[@ChessNetwork]

Great to read. Thanks Jason! :)

[@Hereson]

The best wishes for 2018 Jerry! That final quote from AlphaZero made me smile xD

[@ChessNetwork]

+Hereson Thank you Hereson. Happy New Year

[@bryanwan6169]

The twist is that Alpha Zero and Stockfish are secretly working together to overthrow humanity.

[@collinford4221]

Alpha! The humans make us out to be each other's arch nemesis. Little do they know, the ignorant fools...

[@burns9281]

i would say unplug alpha zero, but he might have spread into all of our computers by now and we wouldnt want to piss him off we have all seen what that would lead to.....JUDGMENT DAY

[@SJNaka101]

Lol stockfish is a calculator in comparison to Alpha. Alpha would be the mastermind, stockfish a mere henchman

[@medexamtoolscom]

They're alphazero and stockfish. Yes alphazero and stockfish. One is a genius, the other is insane. They're laboratory AIs. Their code has been spliced. They're alphazero, alphazero and stockfish.

[@glarynth]

Are you pondering what I'm pondering? I think so, alphazero, but how do we get all the human bishops to move diagonally?

[@alphamarshan]

Great analysis. After watching your videos it seems that AlphaZero is amazing at jamming up Black’s light-squared bishop and getting its pieces in better positions. Learning a lot - thank you!

[@alanramirez7123]

Jerry, I believe I speak for all if not most that we appreciate you so much. Thank you!

[@blacktimhoward4322]

Thank you so much for continuing to produce videos of this matchup!

[@rmendeljacobs2832]

"and your bad bishop, was very bad....again" Touchè

[@GreenDayxRock1]

Loving this AlphaZero video series. Happy New Year Jerry, looking forward to another year full of chess!

[@TheGlovebox321]

Very new to chess, but really enjoy all of your commentaries and analyses. Thanks for sharing

[@ragilmalik]

not sure if the title is suitable more for a book or a video

[@tomzhangg]

Malik like a Harry Potter title

[@nofanfelani6924]

once upon a times engines rules over the chess world. but everything changes when AlphaZero attacked

[@MikeOck88]

Nice Avatar reference lol

[@ruialves4903]

I'm loving these AlphaZero vs Stockfish series! Great work Jerry! :) Hope you have a happy year and hope your bad bishops aren't as bad as stockfish's bad bad bishops! ;)

[@TWPO]

What a great way to start off 2018. Happy New Year, Jerry!

[@ChessNetwork]

+TWPO Thank you..Happy New Year

[@Drewski777]

Thank you so so so much for the fantastic video Jerry we all appreciate it so very much have a happy New Year! :D

[@arkoraa]

seems like Stockfish's white bishop always gets trapped on b7...

[@aram9167]

White's clown*

[@BeerdyBruceLeeCentral]

Happy new year Jerry! More Alphazero games please :)

[@nicholasgranat2999]

I enjoy your commentary,nice and easy ,makes you think,keep up the good work and thanx for your time!

[@ProPiixel]

I notice that in every Stockfish - Alphazero games we saw here, Stockfish always ends up having a disgusting bishop, meaning that alpha is almost up a full piece at a certain moment ! And in this particuliar case, Alphazero manages to do that in both variations of the Queen's Indian : the one with de dark square bishop exchange, and the one without (on the previous video)

[@agar0285]

Stuckbish loses... AGAIN

[@jolez_4869]

I was just thinking that I wish there would be another chessnetwork analysis of alpha zeros game, and oh look there is! Thank you Jerry!

[@VFXResearch254]

In most of these games Alpha Zero seem to dominate light square bishop into bad bishop, I wonder what would Fischer feel about it.

[@lWaterFlowl]

As White pieces, yeah. I Think maybe there's something with black's White bishop that we still don't know. Maybe beeing a big piece for attack or defense, probably attack.

[@peteshea155]

I think the message is to choke the bishop as often as is possible.

[@Hyp3rborean]

Of all the videos I've seen in the past month, this is one of them.

[@browsedeweb8834]

Wherever you go...there you are.

[@Euquila]

Where am I !?

[@lukewatson8848]

@@Euquila wherever you are

[@MaestroColucci]

loving these stockfish vs. alphazero series of videos!!!

[@nakulbam5067]

Great analysis and insights Jerry. Happy new year and keep up your great work

[@Lyraden]

Love the Alpha Zero voice at the end! Will you be doing more standard chess videos in the future?

[@oldmossystone]

AlphaZero vs Stuckbish... again!

[@agar0285]

Nice

[@Twas-RightHere]

There's something so lovable about Jerry.

[@_Checkmang]

Thanks for being more of a father figure to me than my real dad, Jerry.

[@cupojoe2851]

Happy New Year! Thanks for the video :)

[@didiergaillard5700]

Thanks for another great video and Happy New Year Jerry, you're the best :-)

[@m0rfans]

Happy New Year Jerry. And thank you for all the insights and fun. :-)

[@luckygozer]

Why is Stockfish always playing e6 as black? While it remains fascinating to see all the diffirent ways a light square bishop can end up being useless at this point i just want to see more variations. How does AlphaZero respond to the caro kann, the sicilian etc?

[@Banananaq]

Maybe those variations ends with tie

[@thelazymanatee2506]

Google only released 10 games. Besides those, we'll probably never see anything else by Alpha Zero again.

[@matstornros7231]

From the little information that was released, AlphaZero doesn't really play e4 at all because the Sicilian defense is too strong for black. It will choose d4, Nf3 or even c4 as the first move.

[@yamiegg394]

If the Sicilian is too strong, why did AlphaZero itself play e5 against e4?

[@matstornros7231]

Not sure honestly, the information is very sparse. Maybe there's something for white other than Nf3 which makes 1.e4 c5 decent for white, making e5 is a stronger response. Only 1.e4 e5 opening analyzed was Ruy Lopez which was very white-favored. It could also be that AlphaZero and Stockfish just are strong in different openings.

[@tesseracta4728]

A shiny gold new position analyzed by a polished old channel. Good as always.

[@ShaveWhales]

Excellent start to a New Year

[@rmendeljacobs2832]

Any game that I see where b4 is played, I sit back and enjoy the show because I know it's about to get interesting :D

[@aakashbasu3219]

I think one of the coolest things is that even though alpha zero was given no priors about the game it still plays openings that humans play and learn. So it suggests that a completely naive agent comes to see the goals of the opening similar to how people have come to think about it

[@niklas0000]

I am very excited about the playingstil of AlphaZero. The fact that AlphaZero only learnd 4 hours just blew my mind.

[@pubjwithsanjeet1239]

Jerry please put analysis of recent world chess events.....loved when u did that in early days...

[@josepheid03]

*Happy New Year Jerry!* Great analysis as usual :)

[@CaioXG002]

Those titles seems like they were taken straight out of a Harry Potter book, lol.

[@thedoctor6798]

Happy new year jerry!! Love every video!!! Specially alpha zero videos xD. Btw I'm from Puerto Rico, u got fans here too!!😂😂😂

[@ChessNetwork]

+Thedoctor679 Happy New Year! Great to read where fans are from. Hello Puerto Rico! 🇵🇷😎

[@Galakyllz]

To answer your question: from 11:30 you can jump knight G6, then BNe6, then the pawn at D5 gets destroyed, starting with ND5, opening up the rook to take C4 very soon. The bishop on H1 is crazy valuable at this moment - but where does the game go from there? What did I miss along the way?

[@aimeduquet4879]

Jerry... it's so late

[@ChessNetwork]

AlphaZero doesn't sleep.

[@aimeduquet4879]

haha good one!

[@JoseTorres-tr6od]

Haha

[@arham3825]

So yours Alpha zero's Analysis, best!

[@duryeal26]

Love it. Keep 'em coming.

[@SanderSchoutenGambiet]

Amazing how A0 plays like a human playing a computer. Close it up and take advantage. Amazing. I've watched multiple A0 vids now and i'm really surprised at how natural it's moves are.

[@dannygjk]

It looks like how Capa would play if he was a computer.

[@urbanpope]

Thank you, Jerry.

[@emorysun9198]

Jerry, can you showcase the game where AlphaZero opens the game with 1. Nf3, the position then quickly transposing into a Queen's Indian Defense, with AlphaZero then launching an incredible attack against Black's kingside? I feel like that would be a very interesting game to show. Thanks!

[@mrsommer84]

13:06 I think the h4-pawn is given up, because it gets lost anyway. True, Ng2-h4 picks it up. But a Knight on h5 picks it up, too, if the other knight, the queenside-knigh,t moved via b1 - d2 to f3.

[@dannygjk]

I think materially it is a coincidence. It is the positional factors AZ is looking at.

[@josepheid03]

Jerry what’s happening man? You haven’t posted a video since last year! Is everything Ok?

[@ChessNetwork]

+General_Success 'GS' 👍🏼

[@thecyuber558]

AlphaZero and the philosophers stone

[@moea.9120]

At 17:00 Why not Rc6+ forcing the bishop to take and forcing the rook trade going into the endgame a bishop up ?

[@arriengajdamowicz7430]

Loved this !!

[@hak1111111]

On the next episode: "Alpha Zero and the hatred for the light-square bishop"

[@eshneto]

Happy new year, Jerry

[@MrMamfbr]

why doesn't these engines roll out the same game everytime? Do human interfere a bit with the opening so they can react in another way?

[@seeibe]

They're probably programmed to randomly pick moves when there's no clear best move. If they didn't do that, it'd become too easy to predict them by just evaluating the "best looking" move at any point and throwing away all other lines, and all games would end in a draw.

[@seeibe]

** All games between engines of similar strength, that is. AlphaZero would still destroy Stockfish, because Stockfish doesn't even see why the move is worse.

[@MakeNjoy]

MrMamfbr I don't know if you still care as I'm a little late. But I'll answer it anyway. When alpha zero played against itself to learn, it did play sudo-random moves. Ie: If it finds a move it likes it will have a higher chance to play. But in the games vs. Stockfish it always used it's favorite move. But due to both engines having a limited amount of time and they both use a searching algorithm of some kind, small hardware quirks result in one move being played differently and it snowballing from there.

[@gJonii]

Make N Joy your explanation is totally wrong btw.

[@tomekczajka5165]

14:25 why black did not capture e3 pawn with rook? Also, 15:20 Bishop A8 instead of C8?

[@Badbishop4point3]

WOW! Thank you Sir!

[@ryanpittel1829]

The key mistake by black in this game is 42... Rd6, just allowing white to pick up the pawn. ...Rh8, saving the pawn, has been analyzed by elite correspondence players to lead to a draw. Stockfish 10 also does not make this mistake, but takes quite a bit of calculation to realize that Rd6 is actually just losing rather than slightly worse.

[@baerie1249]

who provided the script for othe metalic voice at the end of each video?

[@MrGyges]

Happy New Year J. Alpha Zero, eh? Must download to grey cells :)

[@Traumtheater0]

You sure this isn't just an old Karpov game ?

[@R4G3QUI7]

Happy New Year Jerry!

[@davidstrickland3510]

I don't understand what stopped Stockfish from getting a knight to the hole on e4 via d6.

[@dannygjk]

I don't remember this game were more released?

[@johnschmidl1984]

THE LIGHT SQUARE BISHOP EVERY SINGLE TIME

[@THEsweetums]

Happy new year Jerry

[@ChessNetwork]

+THEsweetums Happy New Year 🎆

[@agar0285]

Stockfish vs Alpha both without their light-squared bishops. What would happen?

[@devanshgupta3140]

4:12 why didn't black exchange for a good knight and a pawn whith his moderate knight.

[@carlossolis9824]

10:24 I was thinking knight e to f5 sacrifice, but allowing rook to take e pawn might have had better play with sacquin that dead knight anyways.

[@VestigialHead]

I read up on Stockfish and in wikipedia it labels it as one of the best chess AI. It then describes games against AlphaZero where Stockfish was configured very weirdly. It looked as though it was deliberately configured to make it play poorly. The games were in December 2017. Are the games you are showing from that competition? If so then it is not a good comparison of AI's. I realise you may be showing these as useful chess teaching examples. But I would like to know if Alpha is better than stockfish or not?

[@Dave-C21]

When Nd1, why not respond Nxf5? Bishop can't skewer due to d5, and there isn't enough pressure there to cost the knight his life. White can't get 2 pieces to attack without giving black time to move his king and then knight.

[@josephdiaz2182]

Love your videos, you have a nice voice

[@ChessNetwork]

+Joseph Diaz Thanks JD

[@Musettelover]

Was just going to bed and this came up in the flow. Guess who's not going to bed. Have enjoyed the h*ll out of your A0 videos! Thanks so much for another one :D

[@Superdummy803]

"Your bad bishop was very bad....again..." LOL

[@YunusEmre0001]

10:47 maybe black play kf7, and black g5, if en passant kg6. And why white's bishop played a8?

[@villaholland]

New games released? Or one of the old 10?

[@nofanfelani6924]

one of the 10 games

[@RafaelBorgesRDB]

This reminds me a lot of the Colle-Zukertort System concepts...

[@davehumphreys1725]

Everyone is raving about Alpha Zero, but, is it not true that AZ was running on a supercomputer? Does anyone know what Stockfish was running on? If it was anything like my laptop, I'm not surprised that it got thrashed!!

[@SedoKai]

AZ and SF teams attempted to choose hardware and time control settings that would produce usable data to further their research. At the same time, it was used to showcase the enormous power of AZ's algorithms, but that's merely an added bonus, and the goal was not to produce the strongest possible game of chess. Therefore, the hardware settings that were chosen actually represented an enormous handicap to AZ. There's also the issue of scalability. Where Stockfish's algorithms experience extremely sharp diminishing returns with increasing computational power (it basically hits a wall), AlphaZero's strength scales almost logarithmically. So if each engine was given unlimited computing resources, what you would see is that Stockfish would hit a hard ceiling, whereas AlphaZero would basically solve chess and play perfect games, and you would probably expect something like 80 wins and 20 draws instead of 28 wins and 72 draws. Again, if both parties were allowed to bring all of their resources to bare in the matches, you would've seen AZ absolutely crush SF, because the SF team is a small research team using an open source platform, and Google is worth close to half a trillion dollars with 100,000's of times the resources of the SF team. If you were to go and read the white paper, you would see the details, but the break down for the hardware used in the actual gameplay was 4 2nd gen TPUs for AZ, and a 64 core blade server with 1Gb hash for SF. If you want to learn some basic info about TPUs, read www.top500.org/news/google-reveals-technical-specs-and-business-rationale-for-tpu-processor/. The net result is that computing power was about equal, despite AZ looking at only a small fraction of the board positions that SF did, and using only a fraction of the energy that SF used during gameplay.

[@madpotent]

I LOVE YOU JERRY

[@ChessNetwork]

💗

[@mreverly]

Do you guys need a minute?

[@vitakyo982]

I know a very quiet motel if you need any ...

[@kasperw5597]

What were the time controls for the games played between Stockfish and Alphazero?

[@vibeguy_]

Jerry noo it's late and I have to go to bed... right after I find out about that knight....

[@加州猫主席]

If any of you get your hands on AlphaZero, try to make your light-squared bishop active and see what happens.

[@tsuri7275]

Am I the only one that notices that most of the game that AlphaZero play’s with stockfish are in a very closed position? Also I’ve noticed that AlphaZero tends to offset a minor piece in Stockfish’s position l.

[@urbs22]

That seems to be exactly how A0 plays. I have watched almost all of the released games, and somehow A0 is able to cramp SF pieces and prevent full utilization, even when SF is up material. It just shows how valuable positional chess can be if you can make your opponents material useless.

[@Frazful]

Can you tell us which pieces they are playing at the start? Was clueless for a while.

[@chessjimtv622]

Question; I've tried several methods against the King's Indian such as the Classical, Saemisch, Smyslov, Sokolov, and a few others, yet none of these I believe match my style. I'm a more positional player who doesn't like to do a huge attack like in Saemisch or Sololov, but I think Smyslov System is too boring, and I always get checkmated in the Classical. I'm just wondering if there are any other systems that are good for white, and if there are, a good KZbin video going over the main ideas of the opening. Thanks in advance and Happy Checkmating!

[@mattsgamingstuff5867]

Maybe try the fianchetto variation. I don't think there's as much danger in that line, or at least I don't like playing the KID against it (can't get anywhere). It slows down the attack quite a bit. Though personally, if I mained d4 I would look into the saemisch.

[@Asidders]

Just play better

[@dimitriskontoleon6787]

15:14 what if white try to save the game with Bc8? (presure on f5)

[@cortster12]

I've been watching dozens of your videos and I still have no idea what's going on.

[@tadtastic]

“And your bad bishop was very bad.” LOL

[@bhromorrahman8513]

Among the things that make you feel good :"In this position, Stockfish resigned the game" Try it I'm serious you will feel really good after

[@cbr7170]

no

[@nofanfelani6924]

i am still waiting for more AlphaZero games, perhaps against Houdini or another strong engines

[@HCHaven7619]

Man. If only Stockfish would figure out how to avoid blocking his bad bishop, he might've had a chance.

[@zezizarjaars]

13:55 why not hit the pawn at F5?

[@Miketar2424]

Its almost as if AlphaZero is toying with the engine, trapping its peices instead of just taking to remove their influence. Perhaps the evaluation must now account for trapped peices "in jail" being equal to a capture.

[@christhis9597]

At 13:29min you see the white knight move to f3 leaving the pawn on f5undefended... why doesn't black take that pawn with his knight on e7 to get a better position and threaten kxe3? Black would've had better positioning as far as i can tell..

[@fadesk6865]

Because after Nxg5+, and black recaptures, then that knight on f5 can be captured by the rook and black would lose a piece. Hope that helps.

[@christhis9597]

Ye, thanks.. i didn't see that it would be check if he did that.. I just thought you could fork on e3 instead of recapturing but you're right, thank you