Chevy 1500 5.3L V8 Lifter FAILURES (Active Fuel Management) **Heavy Mechanic Review**

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@donjohnson2428
@donjohnson2428 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been prepared to buy a 5.3 Silverado for almost a year now but afraid to pull the trigger because of the lifter issues. Frankly it’s absurd to have to worry about this when you’re spending nearly 60k on a new truck. GM needs to do better.
@TDub_ADV
@TDub_ADV Жыл бұрын
At this point get either the 2.7 I4 or the 3.0 Duramax. Either v8 are basically a failure in waiting, not if but when...... I personally have had lifter failures on 3 6.2l engines. If it were me buying a GM 1/2 ton it would be the 3.0 all the day long. Its probably the best engine option they make at the moment in a 1/2 ton.
@AmericanConglomerate
@AmericanConglomerate Жыл бұрын
go for the 7.3 godzilla from ford, I've had mine for 2 years, put 53k miles on it. runs like a champ
@EBIndy
@EBIndy Жыл бұрын
The 2.7 Turbo is a joke. Its a gas guzzler and lacks capability. The 3.0 Duramax is THE Engine to get.
@2003evodave
@2003evodave Жыл бұрын
Time to stop buying “general mess” problems. I had a fleet of Chevy heavy duty and light trucks, cars and race cars for decades with nothing but endless troubles. Finally had to give up and went to Ford and Ram vehicles. Love my Raptor and all the gas Fords trucks plus my 5.0 GT Mustang but can’t afford even at fleet prices Ford diesel trucks so bought Ram Cummins 3/4 and HD one tons. We do logging, land clearing, general excavation, demolition and construction. We are meticulous and always are early on all maintenance and never had a single major failure except with GM products including total explosive engine failure, countless transmissions, numerous transfer cases, rear and front axles, couldn’t count all the drive lines (front and rear), electric problems (IE windshield wipers, power windows, Radios, heat and AC) paint falling off, rust, brakes are all the major issues. I am not saying we never have a issue with other brands it is just that they are all so minor it’s not worth mentioning.
@kylebutler7142
@kylebutler7142 Жыл бұрын
@@AmericanConglomerate can you buy a 7.3 Godzilla in a half ton?
@metaltera86
@metaltera86 Жыл бұрын
GM hates this video for sure. Thank you for informing people including me on my journey to finding what pickup I’m picking up next
@barrya.6212
@barrya.6212 10 ай бұрын
GM: WE have a bulletproof long lasting engine, lets ruin it with AFM / and or subpar lifters...
@georgeperkins4171
@georgeperkins4171 8 ай бұрын
Thank govt mandates. They were forced to do something
@gearheadtechnology
@gearheadtechnology 7 ай бұрын
@@georgeperkins4171 problem is, they were for it.
@ajmedeiros77
@ajmedeiros77 Жыл бұрын
Direct injection, cylinder deactivation, auto start stop. What could go wrong 😆
@GettysGarage
@GettysGarage Жыл бұрын
I mean ya the old days of just a good running engine don't seem to matter anymore lol
@jamesbranham2217
@jamesbranham2217 10 ай бұрын
Exactly.. way too much b.s. on new vehicles
@petestucker1577
@petestucker1577 9 ай бұрын
Make electric if already then you have a hunk of junk
@jamesbranham2217
@jamesbranham2217 9 ай бұрын
@@petestucker1577 huh that made no sense
@junkcars4173
@junkcars4173 9 ай бұрын
Government mandated MPG's @@jamesbranham2217
@jamesjohns4464
@jamesjohns4464 Жыл бұрын
One of the main reasons I went with the 6.6L L8T HD truck. No DFM or start stop at lights. Just normal V8 rumbling all the time.
@GettysGarage
@GettysGarage Жыл бұрын
Ya its funny how they left those things out on the newer 6.6L gas.
@curtoliver9014
@curtoliver9014 9 ай бұрын
Didn’t really want a 3/4 ton truck but that’s why I bought 6.6 L8T no DFM, so far it’s been a great engine, loves gas but I think it’s going to be a reliable engine.
@davedemchak3309
@davedemchak3309 9 ай бұрын
@@curtoliver9014 kinda in the same camp though do need 2500 to pull my boat (but the 1500 Denali can do it). The L96 (6.0 in recent but not latest 2500) has no AFM. I also like the 6L90 a lot better than the 6L80 or some of the shit 10 speeds that came out.
@realpatriot5896
@realpatriot5896 8 ай бұрын
​@@davedemchak3309Okay but the 6L80 is a great transmission 197,000 on mine with fluid changes every 30,000 miles
@davedemchak3309
@davedemchak3309 8 ай бұрын
@@realpatriot5896 I agree 6l80 is pretty decent the l90 is more beefy though. Definitely not in the same category as some of the 10 speeds they made that would have issues under 60k miles.
@TIREDOFEVIL
@TIREDOFEVIL Жыл бұрын
It's truly unfortunate for the people who are having the issues that GM is screwing them over.
@GettysGarage
@GettysGarage Жыл бұрын
Seems like it unfortunately
@hochhaul
@hochhaul 11 ай бұрын
GM isn't screwing anyone over. The lifter wasn't "updated". In the last 1 or 2 years, the supplier of the springs inside the lifters was shipping product that was outside of the tolerance range specified by GM. That caused lifter issues at higher rates than in the past. It's hilarious hearing the narrative be revised as lifter issues actually began to be a real concern on 2021-23 trucks. The same rhetoric was used when the 2014--19 trucks were being buillt and sold, yet there are a ton of those trucks with 200k+ miles without an AFM lifter failure. The primary difference was how often the oil was changed. Tundras have engines with crank bearing failures left and right, Ford is putting rubber belts on all their oil pumps, and Ram has had issues with 5.7's grinding lobes off cams for over a decade and none that gets used in a FUD video.
@mnieliw
@mnieliw 10 ай бұрын
​@@hochhaulwhat in God's name are you taking about? These lifters are failing on cars with cars with 50k miles and GMC isn't helping with repairs. 9k to fix.
@hochhaul
@hochhaul 10 ай бұрын
@@mnieliw BS. A bad lifter at 50k miles they would be covered under warranty. There is definitely a LOT more to that story if there was something that caused the warranty to be denied. GM sells over a million vehicles a year with these AFM/DFM engines. Internet clowns run their mouth about how those you won't go 100k miles without a bunch of lifters failing and that's BS. I know guys with 2014+ GM trucks that have never disabled AFM and a bunch have anywhere from 180k, to 230k miles on them without a single lifter problem. I know two guys that have had a bad lifter. One had a 2012 Silverado and they would wait until the oil life monitor said 0% to think about taking it in to change the oil. Oil sludge causes 90% of the lifter issues. The other was a guy with a 2022 GMC Sierra AT4 with the 6.2 that had a bad lifter at 20k miles and GM replaced ALL the lifters under warranty. Like I said, in just the last 2 oer 3 model years, yeah they had a spring supplier sending out of spec springs that go into the lifter assembly and that was causing a very significant number of lifter failures. But GM isn't denying warranties for bad lifters.
@salvadorvillagomez7436
@salvadorvillagomez7436 7 ай бұрын
6.2l 2023 Silverado with 9,200 miles on mine and in the shop for lifters, blown rod and metal in engine oil without an engine indicator light on… told it needs an engine now which is being ordered at the moment….brand new $77k truck should have been a reliable truck in my opinion!
@DixiePixie01
@DixiePixie01 Жыл бұрын
Why didnt GM issue a recall on the engines ? We need to start a class action lawsuit
@rolandthethompsongunner64
@rolandthethompsongunner64 11 ай бұрын
There is a lawsuit.
@omarsantoyo184
@omarsantoyo184 10 ай бұрын
I need more info! Im currently going thru the same issue on the engine!! 2018 silverado.
@flyer8493
@flyer8493 10 ай бұрын
@@omarsantoyo184The lawsuit involves the older trucks, like 07-12 or 13 with AFM. I don’t remember exactly. It doesn’t include the newer trucks with DFM.
@TRUDEAUMUSTGO2HELL
@TRUDEAUMUSTGO2HELL 8 ай бұрын
​@@omarsantoyo184 my 2019 just broke at 110,000km. I'm into starting a class action. Fuck gm
@choca9540
@choca9540 7 ай бұрын
8speed trans has class action on it right now
@jay2039
@jay2039 Жыл бұрын
Simple solution I did with my ‘15 Silverado was delete the AFM with a tune and kept my 8 cylinder an 8 cylinder. The fuel saving was negligible and I never had any issues.
@Cheaps928
@Cheaps928 Жыл бұрын
How long ago since you tuned it? Also, what tuner did you get? Im gonna have to do this so it helps extend the engine life
@rolandthethompsongunner64
@rolandthethompsongunner64 11 ай бұрын
The lifters will still collapse 😂
@joshuathomas6275
@joshuathomas6275 10 ай бұрын
I did the same with a range tuner, unfortunately it’s still only a matter of time. Remaining in V8 mode only prolongs the issue by only a few thousand miles in some cases
@terrymiller4360
@terrymiller4360 9 ай бұрын
I talk to a couple dealerships and they tell me. No, they cannot deactivate the AFM You have to buy an aftermarket device to plug in to your OBD PORT. How did you Deactivate. Yours.
@Nmdixon-cu7vm
@Nmdixon-cu7vm 9 ай бұрын
@@rolandthethompsongunner64the lifter collapse from the constant open/close actuation. Keeping them from collapsing will ensure they survive as long as normal lifters.
@paulcondie2520
@paulcondie2520 Жыл бұрын
I bought a gently used 2017 Chevy Silverado with 46,000 miles and instantly installed the range technologies AFM delete and also put in lower temp transmission thermostat! Hopefully no issues for along time
@kahxb3kahxb375
@kahxb3kahxb375 9 ай бұрын
Doubt it. Expect lifter failure at about 100 k miles
@paulcondie2520
@paulcondie2520 9 ай бұрын
@@kahxb3kahxb375 thanks for thinking positive! Lol. Complete delete kit by then with Texas Speed!
@N0ffz
@N0ffz 6 ай бұрын
At 110k miles my 2019 silverado tb has lifter failure. Great job GM I will never buy another one of your products. Insane to me that an engine with regular oil change and maintenance fails that early.
@paulcondie2520
@paulcondie2520 6 ай бұрын
@@N0ffz that's why I deleted my AFM! And hopefully doing 3500 mile oil changes helps as well. That's a lot of miles in 4 years!
@phototac9287
@phototac9287 Ай бұрын
What product did you use for delete.
@SweetNeoCon407
@SweetNeoCon407 Жыл бұрын
Just a reminder, the root cause of all this is unelected bureaucrats in DC. They keep forcing the manufacturers to reach impossible fuel efficiency.
@marvinjackson2641
@marvinjackson2641 9 ай бұрын
better known as DEMOCRATS
@westhavenor9513
@westhavenor9513 9 ай бұрын
That's BS. Toyota doesn't seem to be having an issue with QC, at least on this scale. It's lazy US engineering/manufacturing, and good old corporate greed.
@ryanrussell5322
@ryanrussell5322 9 ай бұрын
I’m not sure Toyota has any cars/trucks with cylinder deactivation. But they are having problems with the new turbo tundras
@danielnation9123
@danielnation9123 6 ай бұрын
@@westhavenor9513 I currently drive a 2023 Toyota Tacoma love Toyota Lexus. I believe for the first time GM trucks are more reliable than the Tundra.
@admiralkrankandhismightyba158
@admiralkrankandhismightyba158 2 ай бұрын
​@@westhavenor9513Toyota is religion, apparently. Some of y'all are kind of obnoxious, not to mention ignorant.
@terrysmith1382
@terrysmith1382 Жыл бұрын
I bought a 2021 Chevy Suburban with the 5.3 L V8. After about 4000 miles, my wife called me and said something seemed to be wrong with her car. Sure enough, it was the lifters. It took nearly 3 weeks to get the problem fixed, and they only replaced the lifters that went bad. In other words, this fix was more of a Band-Aid, since there were still seven, other cylinders that could go bad. I ended up selling the vehicle and buying an expedition
@GettysGarage
@GettysGarage Жыл бұрын
Heard lots of people selling their vehicles after running into this issues for that reason. just don't know when the next lifter is going to let go.
@rolandthethompsongunner64
@rolandthethompsongunner64 11 ай бұрын
I pity the dummy that bought that pos 😂
@richardmears1354
@richardmears1354 9 ай бұрын
I had a 1999 suburban with 5.3 for many years that my kids grew up with until graduating high school. Ran like a tank beside an alternator and fuel pump change. I’m now on my second 5.3 in my 13 Silverado. I’ve never had any major lifter issues yet.
@austincloutier8688
@austincloutier8688 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2017 Denali with the 5.3L with the 8 speed. Bought it in 2019 with 48,000km on it, bought a diablosport ITUNE 3 for it right away and disabled the AFM. As soon as I installed it, I got better fuel mileage and nearing 90,000km now (don’t drive it in the winter cause it would be rusted to heck by now since I’m in Ontario, Canada) no knocks or oil consumption issues yet lol. Plus I bought the Superior STL010 thermal bypass kit so the transmission runs cooler. When it’s +30 or higher outside the transmission runs at 60C instead of 95C, even when towing. So no burning out the torque converter (hopefully lol). Will definitely consider the 3.0 duramax truck, once my 2011 Impala LTZ with 320,000km finally dies lol. Good video as always dude!
@rolandthethompsongunner64
@rolandthethompsongunner64 11 ай бұрын
If you don’t replace the lifters doesn’t matter 😂
@sabastian4858
@sabastian4858 10 ай бұрын
All irrelevant. You still have 2 stage lifters and history shows they will fail at around 150k or sooner. I have a 2014 that made it to 161k. Highest yet. They're junk. Chevy knows its junk and so do buyers. Enjoy it while it works.
@austincloutier8688
@austincloutier8688 10 ай бұрын
I honestly don’t doubt that, but you’ll hear more about the issues people have had with lifters than people who don’t. 2014 was the first year they switched to GDI motors (means nothing about the lifters) but it is the first year to that style motor. I know plenty of people who own 2016-2018 5.3 & 6.2 motors that have gone above 280,000km, my step brothers 2018 6.2 Denali has over 174,000km with no issues with lifters. AFM deleted or not. Like I said I don’t doubt a lot of lifters are junk for GM products but there’s probably a lot of trucks out there that have had no issues. Properly maintain/tune your trucks and hope for the best lol.
@JefferySumner
@JefferySumner 10 ай бұрын
Where can I get this tune?
@austincloutier8688
@austincloutier8688 10 ай бұрын
I have a diablosport Itune 3, just a plug and play tuner. It plugs into your OBD port and you can modify some stuff linked to your ECU. One being shutting off your AFM system so no 4 cylinder deactivation.
@mordeth1964
@mordeth1964 Жыл бұрын
"Any man can make a mistake; only a fool keeps making them" GM must be fools..
@GettysGarage
@GettysGarage Жыл бұрын
I think they have alot of pressure from the EPA as well which does not help but you'd like to see GM try and fix these lifter issues.
@jonpeterson4085
@jonpeterson4085 9 ай бұрын
no!! the fools buy em
@cruzdeleon1888
@cruzdeleon1888 8 ай бұрын
GM are not fools, Worse they're greedy Deviants who On purpose designed these engines SO FOOLS SUCKERS would have to pay gm (and/or part manufacturers) for new parts replacement parts and New Engines and NEW CARS...."Just follow the money".. 💰 💸 💲 🪙 💶 💰
@JustAGuy781
@JustAGuy781 5 ай бұрын
A "mistake" is something you do once, if you keep doing that same thing then it is no longer a "mistake", it is a "habit".
@slocavky
@slocavky Жыл бұрын
If I had a 5.3 or 6.2, I'd get a AFM/DFM delete kit from a place like Texas speed etc. It comes with physical new cam and all new solid normal lifters and then you upload a tune file to the truck to delete it. This is the reason I bought a 3.0 LM2
@timmcpeck7527
@timmcpeck7527 Жыл бұрын
I just ordered the Texas Speed for my 5.7 Hemi. Does the kit delete the MDS or do I need to tune it as well? I thought the kit alone deleted it
@GettysGarage
@GettysGarage Жыл бұрын
It's not a bad idea if you are planning on keeping the truck long term. but I feel like most people don't want the hassle. which is why lots of folks are looking at the 3L and I can't blame them.
@slocavky
@slocavky Жыл бұрын
@@timmcpeck7527 not sure on the hemi. I know on the GM trucks you have to tune it on the ECU or it'll cause a check engine light etc. I'd email them to see.
@rolandthethompsongunner64
@rolandthethompsongunner64 11 ай бұрын
Costs 5k to do. 😂
@08turboSS
@08turboSS 6 ай бұрын
​@@rolandthethompsongunner64Closer to 7k.
@TechSurvivalist
@TechSurvivalist Жыл бұрын
In a future video, could you provide a list of the top 3 engines you would buy in a modern 1500 truck? Going over durability, reliability, power, etc.
@TDub_ADV
@TDub_ADV Жыл бұрын
We all already know what those are. Its too bad one of them is no longer in production and the other is done after 2024. 1) Toyota 5.7 2) Nissan 5.6 3) Any of the 3 ford offerings, they all seem about the same from a durability standpoint and all make good power. If you are talking only new trucks. Not sure reliability is a metric one can use any more, all of them have issues and the days of buying a truck and keeping it for 15 years is pretty much over.
@rolandthethompsongunner64
@rolandthethompsongunner64 11 ай бұрын
None😂
@jimsix9929
@jimsix9929 9 ай бұрын
yes I would like to see that too, looks like ford has the best engines, the crappy 5.4 three valve is gone and the turbo 6v is holding up as is the new 5.0, not crazy about the aluminum body that corrodes faster than steel, so find an old truck and keep it forever, that is my plan
@Beemernow
@Beemernow 8 ай бұрын
​@@jimsix9929hoe does an aluminum body corrode? Unless it's not 100% aluminum??
@ronniephipps7526
@ronniephipps7526 9 ай бұрын
I've got the 6.2 chevy silverado high country and I put the AFM module in it when it had 7k miles. Hope I caught it in time for it to last. Great video
@Steve-qk1ev
@Steve-qk1ev Жыл бұрын
2019 Silverado 5.3L - 68,000 mi - collapsed lifter cylinder 1. Replaced all lifters. Less than 500 miles later, collapsed lifter cylinder 1 “again”! Was using Range Technologies Disabler, always used full synthetic oil, change interval 5,000 mi or less…… Considering Ford 5.0 or Ram 5.7, but they also utilize a sort of fuel management which brings me back to GM and the 3.0 Duramax…… all I need is money.
@Lq32332
@Lq32332 Жыл бұрын
I have the 2017 Ram 1500 with the 5.7 and it’s been great. Only at 70k miles though. You will have manifold bolts break- but warranty covered them just fine.
@ksamos
@ksamos Жыл бұрын
Diesels have their own set of issues with DEF systems and regen
@s-man3684
@s-man3684 Жыл бұрын
​@@R.M-e3t You can't fix stupid.
@newapocalypse09
@newapocalypse09 10 ай бұрын
Consider Nissan Titan. Pure V8. No start stop. No fuel management of any sort. No regrets on my part and the gas mileage is NOT as bad as they say. I get maybe 1-2 mpg less, if that.
@s-man3684
@s-man3684 10 ай бұрын
Government motors piece of junk. China and Korea made crap
@kenjones7240
@kenjones7240 5 ай бұрын
I have a 2010 with 205k. No issues. I know probably a dozen people with these engines that have never had an issue. I feel lucky I guess, got my moneys worth!
@darindesroches4905
@darindesroches4905 3 ай бұрын
Same here. 2010 5.3 no problems. Still my daily driver. Regular oil changes with synthetic and a good filter.
@goldpop5001
@goldpop5001 9 ай бұрын
10:05 "only 2-3% failure" where did this stat come from? Just curious? WE get tons of these in our shop.
@patrickthennigan
@patrickthennigan 7 ай бұрын
I'd like to know too. Dude is just throwing numbers around. Do you honestly think GM would tell how many they fixed.
@admiralkrankandhismightyba158
@admiralkrankandhismightyba158 2 ай бұрын
Maybe his numbers are wrong. But there are a ton of these trucks. Almost 20 years worth. Any shop is going to see a bunch, even if it's a low % of the overall number of vehicles. Plus, a large number of them will be high mileage, which is quite different than early failures. This is why mechanics don't have special knowledge about reliability.
@AdamPlacek
@AdamPlacek Жыл бұрын
Acknowledging they ALL have their issues, after years with numerous GM's, I switched to Ford. When I purchased my previous truck, a 5.3, I was made aware of the AC condenser issues, transmission issues, and the lifter issues. When I got to 100k miles, I had replaced the AC condenser, going on my third transmission, and was increasingly nervous about running into the lifter issue. Finally had enough and traded it in for a new Ecboost, haven't looked back since.
@rolandthethompsongunner64
@rolandthethompsongunner64 11 ай бұрын
My god third transmission?😂
@AdamPlacek
@AdamPlacek 11 ай бұрын
@@rolandthethompsongunner64 “like a rock”
@willg.5168
@willg.5168 9 ай бұрын
Chevy to a Ford? Looks like you jumped from the frying pan into the fire
@rayg5445
@rayg5445 4 ай бұрын
My company's fleet is all Ecoboost F-150s. My '21 has been great. 75K miles so far. Other co workers have had the AC go out around the same mileage, one had an extremely rough idle at 60k, another had electrical problems, another guy's information screen in the odometer keeps freezing. This seems like quite a bit of problems since we only have 14 trucks. It looks like there's no good brands out there.
@lanarkwanderer
@lanarkwanderer 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience. I’ve owned two of these trucks with this engine. One a 2008, now driving a 2017. So far no issues. I get my oil changes at the dealer using Delos oil, they change it every 6K kilometres. Sooner if I’m heading away on a trip. The trucks have been used to haul trailers long distances as well as daily groceries etc. I keep all maintenance up ahead of the recommended schedule, at 70K I do a complete drive train service, rear diff, transmission fluid, transfer case, front diff, fluids changed, and brake fluid flushed. I live in the salt belt so rustproof spray every fall. A friend who is a mechanic tells me a lot of their work is on vehicles maintained by the 15 minute oil change places.
@jimsix9929
@jimsix9929 9 ай бұрын
oil is the main thing, Pennzoil platinum is very good, Quick lubes will cost you thousands on trucks with these new valve trains
@chuckfreeman7392
@chuckfreeman7392 3 ай бұрын
My second year 5.3 has been absolutely great to me.
@davidsmith3623
@davidsmith3623 Жыл бұрын
I disabled the AFM so all 8 cylinders stay active. 81000 miles on my 2018 Silverado W/T reg. cab. Still going strong. Oil changed every 5000 miles and Chevy dealership by a mechanic I'm friends with there.
@adamUDavies
@adamUDavies Жыл бұрын
Why don't more people do this ? Curious how it's possible ?
@ericrivest4423
@ericrivest4423 Жыл бұрын
How do you deactivate it?
@Tonytewsteez
@Tonytewsteez 11 ай бұрын
⁠@@ericrivest4423 you can get a afm delete programmer man, just plug it in and it tricks the computer into staying into v8
@lc6785
@lc6785 10 ай бұрын
​@@ericrivest4423 Range technologies has a device you can plug in the obd port that keeps the engine in v-8 mode. I installed one on my 2014 Sierra.
@georgeruiz3016
@georgeruiz3016 10 ай бұрын
Recommend changing your oil 3K to 3.5K
@nross33
@nross33 Жыл бұрын
We need to defund the EPA
@GettysGarage
@GettysGarage Жыл бұрын
Lol I mean I dont think people would be opposed
@aaron___6014
@aaron___6014 9 ай бұрын
Defund the Democrats.
@arieldohm6808
@arieldohm6808 Жыл бұрын
Lifter failure just destroyed my 5.3 Sierra's engine. Super stoked to pay 6 grand that I don't have to fix it.
@rpe97
@rpe97 11 күн бұрын
What year? Surprised people don’t list their year
@arieldohm6808
@arieldohm6808 11 күн бұрын
@@rpe97mine was a 2013
@everettarthur6525
@everettarthur6525 11 ай бұрын
I shut off AFM on my 2016 with a $69 device from Amazon on mine. I also run MotorKote in all my engines, Lawnmower, tractor, truck etc. It really does make a difference
@08turboSS
@08turboSS 6 ай бұрын
You still have the weak afm lifters and cam 😂.
@kyleshultis4246
@kyleshultis4246 5 ай бұрын
You don’t know what your talking about. Nothing wrong with the cam. The lifters have springs on them which fail. If you disable the cylinder shut off with a programmer like op said they are less likely to fail as they don’t collapse being in v-8 mode all the time.
@10drowsy
@10drowsy 12 күн бұрын
Last spring I bought a pre-owed 2021 GMC 1500 X.31 with V8 5.3L. Being built during Covid years and lack of computer chips, it was factory built with NO AFM chips and NO Onstar chips. No down hill engine brakes as well. It's always a full V8 in an always ON state. Only upgrade I applied was Timbren SES in its rear (due to its factory soft rear suspension and my heavy weight trailing towing). I also change its Engine Oil/Filter when its usage meter is at 35%-30% remaining. Thus, I change its Full Synthetic Dexos-1 oil early as well. So far... So good...
@peterollinger2584
@peterollinger2584 10 ай бұрын
Learned the hard way. My 14 i brought used with 99,000 miles and at 150,00 miles had a missfire replaced coil pack fix it and codes pop up and started ticking. It was oil change time. Change oil and sent sample in to test it and was told it had mental in oil. Took it in and they took it apart and the lifter seize into the block. The transmission had a slip in it to. So now im going replace the engine and going have normal lifters put in and timing chain and going have it deleted and a transmission replacement done with some upgrades. Im making payments on it yet and its been park in my garage for awhile. I wont buy another GM truck again. I was a GM only guy for long time. Im considering Dodge 5.7 Hemi. They might have some issues as well. The problem is the EPA forcing better fuel mileage and OEM's have put the tech in these engines. Diesels are the same way. Dodge eco's have issues. I ageee the 3 0 duramax might be the best option but they might have a oil baffling issue. Screwed either way with newer trucks.
@FactsOVERfeelings2024
@FactsOVERfeelings2024 8 ай бұрын
Sorry bro
@davidrobinette3834
@davidrobinette3834 9 ай бұрын
I have a 2013 GMC Sierra 4wd. After about 6 months I bought a Diablo programmer so I could turn off the AFM. No more oil consumption, and no problems at all.
@paulbutler5067
@paulbutler5067 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. As an owner of a 2019 Chevy 5.3 DFM tuck, I am obviously concerned over the potential of this type of failure, to the point that I am considering trading for a new one with the 3.0 diesel. I really like my truck and have always maintained it meticulously including changing oil/filter at 5000 miles with the correct grade full synthetic oil. If you simply listen to internet chatter, every single Chevy 5.3 will have this problem. At least I feel somewhat better that the actual failure rate is 2-3%. Not great but at least reassuring that I could own this truck for years and many miles with no issue. It's a gamble for sure. And maybe for peace of mind I may just order a new diesel version in a year or so. Or possibly the 2500 truck with the 6.6L gas that does not have cylinder deactivation.
@RJ-xg7uf
@RJ-xg7uf Жыл бұрын
I bought a used 2019 Silverado that had 29k miles on it. I installed a bypass to the DLC & at 65k cylinder 1 went out on my way into work. Luckily, it was covered under warranty, which the dealer told me was 100k for engine repair. I love the truck but it's been 1 thing after the other & that was the last repair it needed. The dealer had my truck for 1 month. I'm afraid it'll happen again outside of warranty & that's not a repair bill that I want to pay for.
@tracybachman1937
@tracybachman1937 Жыл бұрын
@@555_Lady_JB I wish I had installed one on my 2020 1500 5.3 98XXX miles Lifter failure cost to repair $7000.00 will see how well the extended warranty pays!
@jimsix9929
@jimsix9929 9 ай бұрын
as an old mechanic, I would use valvoline VR1 racing oil, as long as the truck is not burning oil it will not harm the catalytic converter but you will have no camshaft or lifter problems, other oils do not have much zinc in the additives, that is what protects your camshaft, it coats it with a high pressure coating, but will do the same to your converter if it is burning oil, making it non effective, I would still use it a converter is cheaper than a cam replacement
@tammyjones7400
@tammyjones7400 Ай бұрын
Run
@TacoTruck17
@TacoTruck17 11 ай бұрын
I have a 2014 with the 5.3 in it! I have a 100k miles on it, with no problems! I change the oil every 4k miles.
@kalani1987
@kalani1987 5 ай бұрын
Ticking time bomb. Mine failed at 126k and I changed the oil every 3k miles
@smith8281
@smith8281 5 ай бұрын
Mine just failed at 104k miles
@TacoTruck17
@TacoTruck17 5 ай бұрын
@smith8281 sorry to hear that 😞
@gordjones1765
@gordjones1765 2 ай бұрын
Tranny went on mine at 285k, I'm now waiting for the lifters to fail
@sthrash40
@sthrash40 5 ай бұрын
Good info, thanks! I have a 2019 5.3 Silverado that has a second time with collapsed AFM lifters, this time of course its out of warranty. The sad part is I have a 2000 Silverado with a 5.3 that has 250,000+ miles that gets better gas mileage than the 2019, with no fuel management system.
@jaylee8542
@jaylee8542 Жыл бұрын
I went with the V6 on my 2023 Ram 1500. It has that annoying start/stop stuff but as far as I know it doesn't have cylinder deactivation. And so far I am impressed with how well it pulls the truck. There are times I wish it had a little more torque, but I saved some money over the v8 and I believe the engine will last a long time with correct maintenance. I just have gotten to a point in my life I don't like risk and all the v8's are having problems to one extent to another.
@ps3psnps3
@ps3psnps3 Жыл бұрын
Penestar v6? If so, do some googling on that engine. It has its own host of issues
@rickreese5794
@rickreese5794 Жыл бұрын
Have had good luck with the Mopar V6, must change oil/filter quality oil. Many over 200k miles and running strong 💪
@GettysGarage
@GettysGarage Жыл бұрын
The 3.6 v6 is a solid engine. Pretty reliable unit as well. I actually just towed with that engine and it did pretty well.
@holdenc3082
@holdenc3082 Жыл бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures I’ve read reports of numerous Jeep owners having rocker arm failures with the 3.6.
@ohaggdah
@ohaggdah Жыл бұрын
Ooof. Not here to make you sad, but the 3.6 Chrysler Pentastar V6 is one of the few with an even worse lifter problem reputation than these GM’s… they do have cylinder deactivation, and VVT. With the 3.6, you have to be rigorous about those oil changes!!! And don’t start googling or YouTubing Pentastar lifter failures!! You won’t sleep after that… good luck!
@Bushy556
@Bushy556 Жыл бұрын
My dads 2015 went at 100k due to failure. Brother in laws 2012 died too. Both required new engines. Coworker bought a new one and didn’t make it to first oil change before failing. Told them they could have the truck back.
@GettysGarage
@GettysGarage Жыл бұрын
Ya if my engines failed before the first oil change I'd be giving the truck back also
@Wooduck
@Wooduck Ай бұрын
Great information and my question is pretty simple. I just bought a 2024 GM with the 5.3. Is this year model still having lifter problems? Thanks
@mikeflege5733
@mikeflege5733 9 ай бұрын
Yep, GM just wants to put a band aid on the problems, long enough until the warranty is expired. Way to go Mary Barra
@tammyjones7400
@tammyjones7400 Ай бұрын
Yes... Run as fast as you can! I had back to back failures in my 2019 Chevy. Gave up and sold it.
@voided3
@voided3 Жыл бұрын
We have a '21 Silverado with the L84 5.3 that got its first flashing misfire check engine light at 585 miles. After the fourth check engine light, the dealer finally replaced the lifters on cylinders #6 and #8 only (this was prior to the 2022 updated TSB guidance; we should have had all 16 lifters replaced based on the TSB). On top of other issues the truck had (bed misalignment, inoperable rear HVAC vents, etc.), it was at the dealer for a combined 51 days over the first few months of ownership. The truck now has over 23,000 miles on it, but I always drive it in L7 (8-speed transmission) to disable DFM and I change the oil prior to hitting 50% on the oil life meter, which works out to roughly every 3,000 miles. It's a shame because the truck drives and tows/hauls pretty well overall, though the 8-speed can be rough when cold and the valvetrain is horrible. We also had to have the serpentine belt and idler pulley replaced around 6,000 miles because it's a one-time use stretch fit belt that they reused after the engine teardown. If we get another gas powered GM half ton truck, I honestly would get the 2.7 Turbomax as the testimonials from actual long term owners seem overwhelmingly positive in comparison for the 5.3/6.2 and the performance is comparable to the 5.3.
@jimsix9929
@jimsix9929 9 ай бұрын
yes the turbo engine would be a better choice, the one time use serpentine belt is just a total fabrication do not know where you got that from, only other way to go is find an older truck in great shape, all the new trucks are not very good, and will not get better over time
@JD-ym4fz
@JD-ym4fz 9 ай бұрын
L7 is the way to go
@JD-ym4fz
@JD-ym4fz 9 ай бұрын
Doing the L7 way here too
@brandonclark7371
@brandonclark7371 7 ай бұрын
I have a 2.7 and it’s been a pretty good truck, it’s a 2019 so had a few issues like needing a head gasket at 50k, other then that no engine problems and it pulls heavy loads really well… The down side is the junk 8 speed trans, may be getting replaced next week if they find problems… Has 77k on it
@VladyslavNovikovthepirate
@VladyslavNovikovthepirate Жыл бұрын
L6 keeps the AFM disabled in a 5.3L engine. It's not optimal for highway speeds, but for around the city driving it helps a lot. L7-L8 get AFM enabled though.
@jamescates1606
@jamescates1606 11 ай бұрын
I’ve been using a Range Technology in my OBD port for over a year and so far I haven’t had any problems. It keeps the engine in 8 cylinder mode all the time on my 5.3. Does use more fuel. I’ve lost about 2 miles to the gallon but it beats replacing the lifters and camshaft or engine.
@EBMJ
@EBMJ 11 ай бұрын
What year is your Silverado? And how many miles have you drove on it with the range? Still no issues?
@twoknuckles
@twoknuckles 10 ай бұрын
I do too, on both my trucks. Have not had any problems but there seems to be many skeptics out there, saying it won't prevent the lifter issues. I'm keeping them anyway, my trucks run better with them (transm). 2011 Sierra and 2018 Silverado.
@jamescates1606
@jamescates1606 10 ай бұрын
@@EBMJ It’s a 2011 crew cab that I bought new and I’ve pot about 3000 miles on it since the Range Technology was put in my Truck. It’s runs so much better! I lost about a mile or two to the gallon but I don’t care. If I wanted a 4 cylinder I would of bought one. 😅
@myintegruns12s51
@myintegruns12s51 10 ай бұрын
My 6.2L DFM equipped Silverado dropped a lifter on cyl #2 at 80k miles. PO300 stored, PO302 present. Oil came out clean so I hope the engine longevity isn't shot. I'm getting a DFM delete kit.
@TheGingerBread27
@TheGingerBread27 Жыл бұрын
You do know this 5.3 is different from the last LS GENERATION right…
@LaLiLuLeLo1
@LaLiLuLeLo1 Жыл бұрын
The lifters are still garbage. The 5.3 vortec and 5.7 hemi are fantastic motors except for the lifter issue. If you go ahead and replace the cam and lifters with performance parts youll never have an issue
@GettysGarage
@GettysGarage Жыл бұрын
Agreed the bare bones of this engine are super solid, without the lifter issues the 5.3L would be a very reliable engine.
@josels1292
@josels1292 Жыл бұрын
Why don’t we have 100% lifter failures in these engines? I strongly believe it’s a Heat treatment issue, lifters are heat treated (made strong) in batches, if one of those batches don’t get the proper treatment failure will occur. Just like everything quality and experience had gone down in the Heat treatment world.
@77Datsun280z
@77Datsun280z 10 ай бұрын
I had a 2009 Silverado 5.3 and now a new body 2019 5.3. Both trucks have never had a lifter issue. I'm a firm believer that is you change your engine oil regularly, you "shouldn't" have a lifter issue. My 2019 has a range DFM Disabler and a couple other aftermarket goodies and the truck runs amazing. I change the oil every 3-4 thousand miles and it's got 53 thousand miles on the engine, so far so good.
@rayss3323
@rayss3323 Ай бұрын
Whats crazy is these engines, without the cylinder deactivation, are bullet proof. The LS is the go-to engine for swaps and can easily support 900+ horsepower. Ive got 40k on my 17' now and have been running the Range OBD2 unit that prevents the deactivation since about 15k miles.
@WBOS72
@WBOS72 Жыл бұрын
The 5.0 Coyote uses AFM as of MY 2021. And switched to a belt driven oil pump. Can you do a review of one?
@ML-lg4ky
@ML-lg4ky Жыл бұрын
Junk
@kylebutler7142
@kylebutler7142 Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqa8ZZp5rr9rZ8ksi=g0pka5bj2yIqAlIE
@DonHendricks-l8q
@DonHendricks-l8q 10 ай бұрын
When I realized my 2010 siverado 5.3l had AFM, then I saw the recommended oil change intervals of 7500 miles. I said no way I'm going that long on oil change intervals with AFM. I came way down on the intervals. Now have 233000 miles with no AFM problems yet. .
@nimrod275
@nimrod275 9 ай бұрын
What interval are you doing oil changes at and about how much oil life is on the monitor when you do change your oil?
@DonHendricks-l8q
@DonHendricks-l8q 9 ай бұрын
@@nimrod275 80% I change the oil filter every other oil change.
@lucidingo3455
@lucidingo3455 Жыл бұрын
Your statement that 2-3% failure rate is encouraging-its easy to get the impression its 90% failures. We have a 2019 5.3 and been worried about it. My real fear with AFM/DFM Delete is our yearly TX emissions inspections (will it pass).
@Weak_juan
@Weak_juan Жыл бұрын
My friend's 2017 silverado 5.3 had the failure. Almost 5k to fix. He's worried about the other side. He is doing Oil every 5000km now instead. I told him to start saving.
@EBIndy
@EBIndy Жыл бұрын
Or just get the 3.0 Duramax.
@othatdude30
@othatdude30 Жыл бұрын
That's a good question. I think you'll just won't get the same fuel economy without it.
@ohaggdah
@ohaggdah Жыл бұрын
@@othatdude30about a 1mpg difference. Thank the government! Lol
@GettysGarage
@GettysGarage Жыл бұрын
exactly it's easy to get sucked into thinking every single engine will fail, the reality is most people will go the whole life of the engine without experiencing any lifter issues.
@jayrobertson232
@jayrobertson232 6 ай бұрын
Bought a plug-in that circumvents the AFM/DFM…..wonderful product! I now have a strong V8 all the time! GM knows about the problem, they just hope it destroys the valve train after the warranty has expired.
@AKS-74U
@AKS-74U Жыл бұрын
You should do a video on Ford's cylinder deactivation system on the 5.0
@GettysGarage
@GettysGarage Жыл бұрын
That's not a bad idea. so far they seem to be decently reliable.
@musicgroopie1
@musicgroopie1 9 ай бұрын
I had a 2012 Avalanche with AFM and it bent a lifting rod going down the freeway. The dealership Fixed it under warranty and the mechanic informed me that my year model could be programmed to run straight eight and by deleting the AFM. Never had another problem with that engine and hardly noticed any difference in mpg. A thinking engine at 70 mph turning off two cylinders and somehow keeping the timing in sync is a scary scenario.
@billmonroe8826
@billmonroe8826 9 ай бұрын
What you describe with the Lifter problem that GM states, is the same problem with the 2nd gen back in 2007. So GM is just now admitting to the problem that they should have fixed YEARS ago!
@johnreese3762
@johnreese3762 8 ай бұрын
I solved my GM problems, never buy one! Great video with real info, thanks!
@ohaggdah
@ohaggdah Жыл бұрын
Great video Alex! It might be worth mentioning that almost every modern engine adapts this technology, even though many don’t advertise it. Whether its VVT/VVL/AFM/DOD.. they all cause similar issues and adapt a similar technology. And most modern engines have a combination of all. Even the 4 cylinders have it.. they can run on just 1. The Chrysler engines have probably the worst reputation in the industry, with the notorious “Hemi tick”. Also the 3.6 Chrysler Pentastar has a failure rate even higher than the GM V8’s if I’m not mistaken. Keeps mechanics busy… many wipe out cams below 50k… Sad times, but let me tell you, this technology won’t go anywhere. I just wish they could do it in a better way. Ford also just implemented cylinder deactivation in their 5.0… so let’s see how that goes. All you can do is be rigorous with your oil changes, and as soon as the warranty is over, get that stuff taken away. Although the whole point of the modern vehicle is that they shouldn’t be owned outside the warranty period… sad but true.
@GettysGarage
@GettysGarage Жыл бұрын
Agreed, it seems like this is just apart of the industry these days. I suspect ford may run into a similar issue but so far they seem to be holding up. and yes these engines are now all made to sneak out of the warranty period before they start to show any major issues.
@jimsix9929
@jimsix9929 9 ай бұрын
one thing I see about all the new engines having lifter and cam failures is 30 years ago they took zinc out of the oil, that was there to protect the flat tappet cams of the day but would coat the catalytic converter ( that we no longer need), in the 1980s and 1990s the cam profiles were very tame, now people want power, a solution would be to ditch the useless converter and put zinc back in the oil, but if you have a 5.7 hemi or 3.6 as long as it is not burning oil, you can use valvoline VR1 racing oil, your camshaft will be happy, it has the zinc to protect the cam
@newapocalypse09
@newapocalypse09 10 ай бұрын
Had a 2019 with a collapsed lifter. Still under warranty. Took it to the dealer, they replaced only 1 bank and didnt touch the camshaft or anything else. I traded it in right away after the repair. 3k miles later, according to the carfax, the truck was back in the shop and had the lifters and campshaft replaced. They cheap out on the repairs even if the own techs recommend to repair it correctly. GM just wont pay for it, as you said, they just want it out the door to get it out of warranty. I also had a 2011 with a 5.3, night and day different. 157k miles and no worries. Should have never "traded up".
@drueatcer
@drueatcer Ай бұрын
I bought a brand new Silverado in 2014, I have 105,000 miles on it so far no problems.🤞🏻
@dannydanko4627
@dannydanko4627 Жыл бұрын
From someone about to do the DOD delete on my 2017 ltz, i love my truck but would probably not buy another.
@matthewanderson9912
@matthewanderson9912 Жыл бұрын
Some of your information is wrong in this video. I’m not defending GM but the 2021 model year is by far and away the most problematic for lifter failures. There was a TSB for trucks built between September 2020-March 2021 stating they potentially had bad lifters installed. GM says they had a bad run of lifters during this timeframe. Initially yes, they only replaced what was failed, so if #7 had the failure then you got two lifters for cylinder number 7 and that was it. However when the updated TSB came out they modified it to say if you were under 8,000 miles you got both banks of lifters replaced (so 16) and if you were over 8,000 miles you got the side that had the failure replaced. The cam would be inspected and replaced as needed. So I had a 2021 truck built in November of 2020 and I had a failure at 8,400 miles. Of course I only got the one side (#7 was the failure), didn’t need a cam they said and got 2 pushrods. Now maybe they have went back to only replacing what failed but I know the failure rate for 2019, 2020, 2022-up doesn’t seem nowhere near as bad as the 2021s. When the 2021s were new on the lots in the truck specific Facebook groups there was atleast one post a day about a lifter failure. And while there’s still failures with the other model trucks it’s nowhere near as frequent as the 2021s were. I think for those particular build date ranges it truly was bad parts. I’d say for a good majority of the rest it’s long oil change intervals. Just my 2 cents worth. I no longer have the 2021 truck for what it’s worth.
@GettysGarage
@GettysGarage Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the info! I'm not a GM tech myself so I could very well have gotten the TSB incorrect or miss-interpreted it. but regardless that's kind of tough they only gave you the one bank of lifters despite being only 400 miles over. I have heard the 2021 lifter were terrible and maybe it was a bad batch of lifters but I will 100% agree with you the very long oil change intervals is not helping at all. Why did you end up trading in the truck?
@matthewanderson9912
@matthewanderson9912 Жыл бұрын
@@GettysGarage it’s possible they went back to their original handling of the issue with only replacing what failed but I do know for a fact with the 2021s they replaced at minimum the side that failed. Having the lifter failure basically is why I traded and I also wanted a 2500 truck when I got the 1500 but just couldn’t find one that would work for me. I was actually trading in a 2020 Duramax because of some problems it was having, (some emissions but ultimately I think it was a bad ECM-long story) and with the prices of trucks back then I couldn’t pass up the deal and the 1500 was all I could get. I realize mechanical failures happen but with GM knowing they had potential bad lifters during a specific date range and then me having a failure with a truck on that date range and being that close on mileage I just figured it was a matter of time before the other side had a failure. My truck is my daily driver and at the time it was our primary family vehicle and I was without it for 3.5 weeks waiting on parts and because their were two other 2021 trucks ahead of me at the dealer with the same problem (one was getting a cam also). So what time it was at the dealer they let me order a 2500 with no obligations to take it and no deposit required to place the order. That was October 9, 2021 and my 2022 2500 with the 6.6 gas came in December 14, 2021. I wanted the gas engine because of the diesel emissions problems that seem to be a “when not if” problem and the 6.6 L8T gas engine has no DFM technology. Couldn’t be happier with it. Just over 32,000 miles now and so far so good. Zero oil usage (I change oil at 3000 miles for what it’s worth) and it’s what I was truly wanting when I got the 2021 1500. As far as that goes it’s what I wanted when I got the 2020 Duramax but that’s another long story lol. Ordinarily I don’t trade trucks every year but again, a lot of check engine lights with the diesel and then the lifter failure with the 2021 5.3. Sorry about the long post but I really had sort of a whirlwind with trucks from August 2020-December 2021 lol.
@newtonbrook
@newtonbrook Жыл бұрын
@@matthewanderson9912 I remember reading the same thing. Also spoke with a GM mechanic, He confirmed it. He says the 2022 5.3's are fine.
@cjb.4590
@cjb.4590 9 ай бұрын
I fixed mine in a 6.2 on my escalade! IT WAS NOT HARD FELLAS!!! Take your time, do the research to educate yourself and SAVE THE FEW THOUSANDS you would pay someone who don't care about your car anyway!!!! I followed along with a couple KZbin videos and got it done...HOWEVER....I did break the number 1 head bolt, and that added a week's time to figure out a work around cuz I could NOT GET the bolt out so I re-tapped it with a steel time sert and a shorter bolt. Been running like new for 3 weeks now!!!!💯👍🏽DIY guys...If you got the time, TAKE THE TIME and DIY!!!! SAVED MY CAM CUZ I stopped driving soon as I heard it too!!!!
@shawna4165
@shawna4165 9 ай бұрын
I bought 2022 gmc elevation with a 5.3, it was what I call a covid truck, it was stated on the window sticker was afm delete. This was due lack of chips. I’m never selling it. I have about 30,000 on it no problems.
@TDub_ADV
@TDub_ADV Жыл бұрын
Tuning the AFM/DFM out via software is not a cure for this, not even a band aid. The lifters can and do still fail even on a tuned engine. I have personally experienced this myself on my 2018 where i tuned the AFM out before it even left the dealers parking lot. I let the truck sit for a week and a lifter bled down and when i started the truck it trashed the cam, bent a rod and busted a valve spring. This all happened within 10 seconds of starting it after sitting. Truck had like 12k on it or so at the time.
@GettysGarage
@GettysGarage Жыл бұрын
Yup agreed, It's not a cure but some people seem to think it can greatly decrease the likelihood of the lifter failures by not having them constantly actuated.
@TDub_ADV
@TDub_ADV Жыл бұрын
@@GettysGarage I know of others that experienced similar to mine with AFM shut off by software or a range device. I don't think it decreases the chances of anything. This entire system is garbage, and its too bad because they have destroyed an otherwise fantastic engine platform. I have owned 3 of these engines, all 3 have failed, all 3 have failed early in the engines lifetime so its not a maintenance related issue, there has not been enough time for that to develop, heck one of them failed before it was due for its first oil change. The real killer for me. On one truck i installed a delete kit with a new cam, lifters, vlom block off etc as soon at my 3/36 was up. That truck got 1MPG better post delete than it did with the AFM system as it came from the factory. So all these failures for what? All they have done is make the vehicle less reliable.
@mudfan061
@mudfan061 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for the 2-3% failures stat. I was curious about that.
@tmcgee1554
@tmcgee1554 Жыл бұрын
Unbelievable. No wonder consumers have little to no faith in the Big 3's quality. It's bad enough GM acknowledges the issue, but then to not replace all the lifters or other possible damage is absurd. They are putting themselves out of business with shenanigan's like this!
@GettysGarage
@GettysGarage Жыл бұрын
Yaa I mean Its a tough look hearing that frkm GM techs
@tmcgee1554
@tmcgee1554 Жыл бұрын
I guess it's no different than Ford's cam phaser issues, which started with the 4.6/5.4 3v and continued into the 3.5 Ecoboost.
@s-man3684
@s-man3684 Жыл бұрын
GM is too big to fail. They know it. Now they're getting money from China SAIC.
@marksullivan3424
@marksullivan3424 9 ай бұрын
My 2022 Sierra 5.3 came without the chip for cylinder deactivation. So it’ll never drop down…I also do my own oil changes every 5000 miles with Mobil 1. 40,000miles in so far so good
@georgeruiz3016
@georgeruiz3016 6 ай бұрын
Nice you lucked out . I was given advice from an old mechanic to change the oil every 3 to 3.5 K miles. I normally doing at 3K
@Mike-vd2qt
@Mike-vd2qt 10 ай бұрын
I found a tow truck KZbinr that tows several of these Silverados every month currently. Brand new, 10K to 20K miles! This video explains why a used 2021 Toyota Tundra price is the same as new price.
@barrya.6212
@barrya.6212 10 ай бұрын
It's because of a subpar fuel pump module...that's replaced under warranty. Not to minimize this horrendous issue..
@Andrew-fr3bp
@Andrew-fr3bp 17 күн бұрын
I have a 2017 Silverado and Tahoe, both with 5.3 + 6L80. I plan on deleting the DoD/AFM on both and install billet torque converters w/ a transmission tune. Both have about 70k miles, but I plan on keeping them for another 5 years or more.
@10drowsy
@10drowsy 12 күн бұрын
Yes. "I would disable AFM feature via module from Amazon".
@harryvelez489
@harryvelez489 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed you video 2021 Silverado 1500 V6 I do not tow 7000 lb it's my daily driver very comfortable.
@dotdot505
@dotdot505 6 ай бұрын
Now it make sense why my pop suddenly got a 2019 Toyota Tundra years back. His 2010 and 2015 Silverado both have this issues after 180k and always service on time. Finger cross the Tundra last him another 3 years until he retired. His 2004 Silverado still a champ with 370k on the clock and it's now mine.
@jsclayton
@jsclayton Жыл бұрын
Didn’t Ford add cylinder deactivation in 21 to the 5.0? Do you know how that system works by comparison?
@timmcpeck7527
@timmcpeck7527 Жыл бұрын
Same issues with the 5.7 Hemi but it seems more common on the GM’s for some reason
@GettysGarage
@GettysGarage Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call it the same issues. are both engines having lifter issues - yes. but for different reasons and yes I would say the GM engines are having much more issues at this point.
@morgancoldfirecoldfire8256
@morgancoldfirecoldfire8256 Жыл бұрын
How does Rams V6 mode works over GMC ?
@morgancoldfirecoldfire8256
@morgancoldfirecoldfire8256 Жыл бұрын
Also Ford's ?
@daryldavis546
@daryldavis546 10 ай бұрын
GM done to to themselves! I bought a 2018 6.2 sierra with 8 miles on it, and at 65600, the lifters turned loose. I changed the oil every 4500 to 5000 miles so oil changes had nothing to do with it. Pure, sorry engineering from GM.
@chrissummers2689
@chrissummers2689 4 ай бұрын
Something you can do without using a OBD tuner toggle is to shift into L or M and choose the 5 gear range on the 6-speed trans (gear range 7 for 8 speed trans). The AFM is never activated in this range and your fuel consumption is not really impacted. Unfortunately, you have to select the 5/7 gear range every time you shift into drive, but it becomes second nature (at least it did with me). It stinks we have to worry about a truck engine like this, but GM and all other auto manufacturers use engineered failure points to grab as much money as they can from the consumer. Gotta love corporate greed.
@borgermann1069
@borgermann1069 Жыл бұрын
What about the 4.3 liter LV3 engines, which are virtually the same engine, with two cyclinders cut off? I haven't heard of their lifters failing, have you?
@adamUDavies
@adamUDavies Жыл бұрын
Hasn't someone came out with something to deactivate the fuel management ? My Honda Accord with the 3.5 and it started fouling plugs and using oil. I installed a small electrical component that tricks the temp gauge and won't let it engage the Eco mode. Car runs great again.
@mwb5987
@mwb5987 10 ай бұрын
How do you feel about oil catch cans
@thebookofbus
@thebookofbus Жыл бұрын
Odds were not in my favor. My 2018's 5.3 lifters went out at 80 k miles this week. Maintance has been done meticulously. Hoping I caught it early enough. It was backfiring and throwing a blinking check engine light.
@DJR5280
@DJR5280 Жыл бұрын
I’d be curious to see what you think of the power of the 5.3 with a 10 spd
@GettysGarage
@GettysGarage Жыл бұрын
I towed with it a couple weeks ago and it has some good power but it wasnt anything crazy.
@jimsix9929
@jimsix9929 9 ай бұрын
I hate to leave negative comments but that truck is just ugly, the family truckster on the vacation movie had better style, and an over engineered engine makes it something I do not want, but the other truck makers are no better, so if you have to pay a lot for an older rust free truck just do it, they will hold the value
@jeffwolf8018
@jeffwolf8018 8 ай бұрын
Agreed
@earlyriser5877
@earlyriser5877 8 ай бұрын
& easier to maintain & work on
@jasonkorby
@jasonkorby 9 ай бұрын
So what can we do besides new lifters and a afm delete or walnut blasting.
@jasonkorby
@jasonkorby 8 ай бұрын
I guess zip ties on a drill work but still be nice if we could just run different oil or additive
@mnieliw
@mnieliw 10 ай бұрын
My lifter just failed on my 2017 tahoe with 55k miles on it. Almost 10k to fix and may need a new engine. Waiting to hear back from GM to see what they'll help with. Fn sucks.
@zechariahsmith1764
@zechariahsmith1764 Жыл бұрын
I am curious, how much (on average) would it cost to get a shop to delete the AFM on my 2015 5.3l silverado?
@mikemount4411
@mikemount4411 10 ай бұрын
About $100.
@jeeinocca
@jeeinocca Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Keep up the good reviews.
@JDtoolsandstuff
@JDtoolsandstuff 10 ай бұрын
I’m looking at a 22 that doesn’t have dynamic fuel management due to it being made during the chip shortage, any chance it might be better than one with it
@martinpellegrin6574
@martinpellegrin6574 9 ай бұрын
I have a 2022 and have 22,000 miles and no problems
@banccl-zj5lo
@banccl-zj5lo 5 ай бұрын
My 2022 Tahoe w a 5.3 also had lifter failure at 20K miles. I bought mine brand new 5 miles from dealership. Dealership only replaced the affected bank of lifters and not all of them.
@NeilParkerTX
@NeilParkerTX Жыл бұрын
Has anything been “fixed” on new trucks being built say ‘23 or ‘24 model year? I don’t feel confident in either GM V8 at all. I’ve been very currious about the diesel motor for economy based on reviews so I might go that route to avoid being in that small percentage that could fail.
@GettysGarage
@GettysGarage Жыл бұрын
I have heard that the 2022+ seem to be better off but only time will tell if that is truly the case.
@rickvelez4757
@rickvelez4757 5 ай бұрын
Going through this right now. 2017 Silverado with a 5.3 and 79,000 miles. Was running great until it wasn’t. Now getting a top end rebuild with all new lifters and it’s costing me $5500. Being told to expect transmission problems as well at around 100,000 miles. I’m done with Chevrolet.
@kalani1987
@kalani1987 5 ай бұрын
I just replaced my engine due to this AFM problem. I have a Pontiac G8, not a truck. Only 126k miles and changed the oil religiously. I decided to keep the car alive because it's a great car. But I would never buy a GM product again
@R.gr98
@R.gr98 9 ай бұрын
Issues been going on for YEARS and we still have the same problem
@kahxb3kahxb375
@kahxb3kahxb375 9 ай бұрын
Wife’s 2015 Yukon 5.3 had one bank of lifters fail at 105k miles. I replaced both banks and cams. $4,000. I also had been running the AFM delete OBD device. GM said I probably delayed failure with AFM delete and to keep using it after repairs.
@PainterD54
@PainterD54 9 ай бұрын
All of this just to save a little gas? Brilliant! I just deactivated mine so hopefully it will last a little longer now.
@MrC9Oh3
@MrC9Oh3 9 ай бұрын
Deactivating doesn't help
@PainterD54
@PainterD54 9 ай бұрын
@@MrC9Oh3And you know this because you're a mechanic or an expert on the subject?
@MrC9Oh3
@MrC9Oh3 9 ай бұрын
@@PainterD54 I assume you are being sarcastic? Its common knowledge. You can deactivate the AFM but the same shitty lifters are still there and will fail. Do about 5 minutes of research next time before you make yourself look like a fool. Also, to answer your question, my family runs the biggest chevrolet dealership in the county, I'm speaking from experience.
@PainterD54
@PainterD54 9 ай бұрын
@@MrC9Oh3 OK Keep it up. I said jokingly that maybe they (the lifters) would last a little longer if the AFM was turned off. MAYBE! So don't get all high and mighty because your family runs a fuckin GM dealership (I wouldn't brag about that)
@MrC9Oh3
@MrC9Oh3 9 ай бұрын
@@PainterD54 and I'm just telling you you're wrong. Owning a dealership is definitely something to brag about. If you weren't such a dick I might let you come paint the bathrooms lmao🖕
@jasonlovell3934
@jasonlovell3934 Жыл бұрын
If I had any of those issues and had it fixed I would immediately trade it in. Remember all these problems stem from the irrational mandates from the EPA.
@Janken-dn2ww
@Janken-dn2ww 6 ай бұрын
I bought a 2015 GMC Sierra SLE 5.3 used and 9 months later, cylinder 7 exhaust lifter collapsed. I change the oil every three thousand miles regardless. Previous two owners, I'm not sure if they kept up with oil changes as I found sludge on the rods and VLOM. I am currently replacing all eight AFM lifters and will be having the computer reprogrammed to delete the AFM. Later after I recoup my losses on this engine, I will do a full delete and go with a stage 1 cam with regular lifters. Truck has little over 96,000 miles.
@kensowiecki
@kensowiecki 3 ай бұрын
2022 chevy Silverado 1500 RST 5.3. 146,000 miles(yes, I drive a lot!!) no issues until last Friday. Leaving jobsite engine backfired and all hell broke loose. Trak light on, Abs light on and I think ESC message w/ rough idle. Throw scanner on coded misfire at cylinder 6. Immediately limped to dealership, luckily 4 miles away. Get report, bad valves and cam damage. $10k for new motor or $9,200 to rebuild. Opted for new motor. Our company buys strictly chevys and since 2015 we have nothing but issues with the 5.3. 2017 was an especially bad year with motors and transmissions. Doing research, hopefully changing oil every 3k instead of factory recommended will do the trick on this new motor but I will not hold my breath…. Side note; my 2022 had the fuel management system deleted from factory w/ credit on invoice, so that tells me the valves are garbage no matter what.
@dadgarage7966
@dadgarage7966 10 ай бұрын
Toyota was unwise not offering a V8 option for the latest Tundra. It could have lured customers fed up with major, persistent GM, Ford and Ram problems.
@reyr9163
@reyr9163 6 ай бұрын
Happening to my 2017 right now. ugh! Thanks for the video.
@79champions
@79champions Жыл бұрын
GM did release a complete fix for the 5.3 and 6.2 lifter issues. It's called the 3.0 duramax.
@rolandthethompsongunner64
@rolandthethompsongunner64 11 ай бұрын
You can’t replace a gas engine with a diesel without replacing the entire fuel and electronics.
@rolandthethompsongunner64
@rolandthethompsongunner64 11 ай бұрын
There are 💯 reliable engines. The 5.7 liter Toyota is rated most reliable V8 on earth. Pathetic when the Japanese can make better V8’s than Americans 😂
@barrya.6212
@barrya.6212 10 ай бұрын
@@rolandthethompsongunner64 The 5.3 was the most reliable V8 until they ruined it with this lifter setup in 2007 ...and the Ford 5.0 is still bullet proof from what I've heard...in all it's iterations...
@BrianDoherty-v3i
@BrianDoherty-v3i 3 ай бұрын
well this happened to me on Friday. 2021 Trailboss 5.3 ... broken cam shaft, lifter and electrical issues with fuel mgmt system - daily driver to and from work - 55k miles... awesome...
@pastorfred3460
@pastorfred3460 9 ай бұрын
I have a 2015 Silverado with the 4.3 V6...have you found that the AFM on these are just as problematic for lifter failure as with the the 5.3 V8's? Thanks for these videos!
@danielmoose1273
@danielmoose1273 9 ай бұрын
It's been pretty hard for decades now to even spot one with 2 headlights that work.
@westpac6954
@westpac6954 Жыл бұрын
Are there any driving modes which keep the DFM system from deactivating any of the cylinders? I've heard in the Rams you can manually choose the highest gear "8" for driving and such results in the engine keeping all cylinders active.
@jpowerhands3607
@jpowerhands3607 11 ай бұрын
Yes If you drive in manual speed five on the 5.3 generation's from 2015 to 2020 its stays in v8 mode the whole time which can be observed in the monitor while you driving This is how I drive my 2016 tahoe It might be the same for newer generations also It's worth a shot.
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