Chevy Astro Van CRANK NO SPARK! THIS OLD OUTBOARD

[@doc3584]

I like your new channel "This Old Chevy"!!!

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

I hate it! Hahaha Thanks for tuning in!

[@brianfranklin7893]

That old astro!😂

[@danielrobert7181]

You are a very patient man indeed and I admire you for it !

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

I don't know about that! Hahaha But I appreciate it! Thanks again !

[@dbcooper692]

I have always marveled at his patients. And this old man who is younger than me is very modest about his talents!!

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

@@dbcooper692 thanks for tuning in!

[@baitwaitfishing7625]

Hey too don't sweat the milky timing cover to much it's common for engine's that see a lot of short trips to do it since oil doesn't get to evaporate the condesation off. Relays and the Spade terminal are fairly common problem 👍

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. Thanks for tuning in. The water got worse! Intake Gaskets ! Thanks again and Stay tuned !

[@TheSteelworker]

Had a similar problem with a 84 Firebird years ago. Turned out the wire harness went from motor to the PCM through the passenger side front fender. There are drain holes at the bottom of the fenders for water to escape. When it rained, the water had no where to go and shorted out my main red wire carrying the 12 volts. Tested by jumping out the red wire. Worked just fine so I left the red wire jumped out for the rest of the time I owned till I totaled it. There was no rhyme or reason to when it would shut down just like yours. I stuck a screwdriver up the drain holes and they were clogged with dirt and leaves and brown water. Took awhile to figure all that shit out, but that’s what It turned out to be in my case. I don’t know how your cluster is routed, but that may be a way to go and keep your gutters and drain holes cleared out under your fenders. All vehicles have them. Hope this help and best of luck-sorry for your misfortune, but good video 👍

[@TheSteelworker]

BTW-a bad cluster will make it have all symptoms yours is having. The next time your gauges “go screwy” bang the shit out of the dash with your fist. If it starts acting right again or shuts off, you need a new cluster-

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. Thanks ! I'll check that out.

[@samtate1260]

I had a 1990 Toyota Camry that did that high humidity hard starting like any rain day I had to replace the cap and wires like every six months or year even OME parts still did it but I put over 200 thousand miles on it great job 👏 I will see you on the next one

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Thanks again !

[@artstates960]

Check wiring and plugs on pcm or ecm . If you were hitting the control module and the relays were clicking then you are losing voltage at the module. Vanna is getting to be high maintenance. Might be time to kick her to the curb.

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Well. One of us is gonna die first! Hahaha! Thanks again !

[@MasonLee22]

I bought a cheap aftermarket coil pack with the ignition module from Amazon and it ate my cap up and completely destroyed my crank sensor. I had to replace them all and my 00 safari was good to go again. I also had to replace the wire connector to the crank sensor because the wires were brittle and making contact.

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. Thanks for tuning in. Yeah I'm not 100% with this coil. Thanks again !

[@johnramsden8760]

When I had my 94 astro I changed 2 modulators. Seems like a maintainance item. They were on the shelves in Canadian Tire.

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. Thanks for tuning in!

[@jonco2969]

Hi Brian Sounds suspiciously like a transistor braking down in a ignition amplifier pack or a field coil in a sensor... I've seen a lot of ignition systems run k until they get warm.. Usually amplifier or hall effect/inductive pick up in the dizzy..

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. Thanks for tuning in. Ok thanks ! I'll let him know! Thanks again and Stay tuned !

[@volunteermaupi4809]

A little water in the oil doesnt show on the dipstick! Heat it up with lighter flame if it crackles and pops, you got some wawa in there... Greetings and good luck from the Netherlands

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. Thanks for tuning in! I'll try it. Thanks again !

[@chriscobb4939]

It's amazing how that little magnet shuts the engine down

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Crazy right! Thanks for tuning in!

[@Fireship1]

If you have the coil pack that has the integrated ignition module bolted to it, you might try and replace that. The module eventually goes bad due to all the heat soaks. When it warms up it likely starts to fail.

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. Yeah Those were some of the first things I replaced. I'm not done yet! Hahaha Thanks again !

[@randyyoung9892]

Maybe the ignition switch itself? I had a 97 suburban that would get intermittent signal from the key switch I traced it by turning the ignition on and off until I found a low voltage one time ?? That or maybe a MOSFET on the ECM which would just be a swap of the whole module ? Good luck brother I know how hard tracking down those intermittent problems are 😩

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey Randy. Yeah I put a new switch in too! Thanks again & Stay tuned !

[@randyyoung9892]

@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 Thanks for taking us on your real life struggles 😉 nice to see we ain't alone with our real life Sagas too

[@dalitohana6979]

Small airplanes usually have 2 ignitions with a switch to change to other one if one fails. One fails switch to the other one. What if you ran a dedicated fused 12 volt power supply to ignition put a switch even.. See if it runs without dying then. Just a thought you could add a fuse to system with a low amp rating to protect the vans computer. You could also leave it in place in case you just needed to start van to move it if it dies out of the way of traffic. Just a thought. Make a wiring system just to run the van nothing else.

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. Thanks for tuning in. I'll check that out. Thanks !

[@MasonLee22]

Check the crank sensor wiring. It’s a big known issue and it’s intermittent but can wreck havoc.

[@MasonLee22]

The crank sensor wires we’re making contact on my van and it had my gauges going crazy and had no spark no start intermittently. It would also act like a bucking bronco at times when driving down the road like my transmission torque converter was going bad. I was going through rotor caps every other month or so because the button was eating them up. The wires were up high though to the crack sensor and I had to take the protective wrap off to find it. But once I did everything was working again and like it was barely broke in lol. My motor now running so good and I thought it was about done because the issues. Check that wire harness for real. Any brittleness to them wires replace it and you’ll be surprised what all goes back to normal again.

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. Yeah I replaced the pigtail. Thanks again !

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Will do!

[@RockymountainRobert]

Its the plug/wire that goes the coil , i zipped tied mine down, if you wiggle that wire while its running, it will shut down the motor, i learned this from a man on KZbin.

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

👍Thanks !

[@64samsky]

I went to move my 2003 Chevy truck yesterday and it did the same thing. Those darn Chevy 4.3 liter engines!

[@64samsky]

@@fastwin493 I gave my 2009 Accord to my son because his truck was totaled by no fault of his own. I didn't want him to drive his motorcycle into the "Hood" where he is a Firefighter. Baltimore is a bad place! I bought my Chevy for cheap, when trucks are at a premium. My wife has a CRV that is awesome!

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. Thanks for tuning in!

[@TonyGingrich]

Sounds like a bad coil. If your motor has only one ignition coil, swap for a new one. Those were notorious for shutting down after reaching a certain temp. If multiple coils...then you're looking at possibly a bad ICM.

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. Thanks !

[@scottbryant2235]

Not related but you need to replace that windshield - especially with Florida rain. It caused a problen on my truck leaking under the dash on electronics.

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. Thanks for tuning in!

[@063317Art]

I had a problem with the distributor cap corrosion and mis fires. A new cap would last for 3000 miles and it would be bad. I replaced the distributor and the problem went away

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. Thanks for tuning in. I'll remember that! Thanks again !

[@billrae4198]

You should mount an evinrude 25 on the back of the van in case you break down!

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hahaha. Thanks for tuning in!

[@jasonk5979]

I wonder if that fuse /relay panel is bad? I know some of those GMs go bad. I have seen some of those have a bad connection underneath where the wires go in.

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. Thanks for tuning in. Yeah I pull it completely apart. It actually looked pretty good. Thanks again !

[@Michaelinthebackyard]

Check your grounds under the dash.

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. Yeah its very time consuming! Thanks again & Stay tuned !

[@russellj2987]

Did you ever solve this puzzle? I have exactly the same symptoms...including the misbehaving gas gauge. Thanks

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

I just replaced everything that would/could cause no spark

[@russellj2987]

K! Thx! I've changed a lot of parts too but I think I still have a wiring fault that I need to chase down @@THISOLDOUTBOARD1

[@bruceschroeder9219]

Dammit I'm on side of road right now. Looking for A clue. Lol

[@russellj2987]

@@bruceschroeder9219 My problem was the Crank Position Sensor connector. The CPS itself was fine. I cleaned up the connector and waterproofed it and no more problems. It’s been six months now.

[@ChaplainMike777]

Have you considered changing the coil? My van is doing almost the same thing yours is doing.

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. I replaced everything that would cause a no spark situation. Wasn't gonna wait for one thing to die after the other. Super Tune Up! Long overdue. Thanks again !

[@ChaplainMike777]

@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 Ha! Maybe that is what I need to do...give it the shotgun approach it takes care of everything. The shotgun approach!

[@joenobles1086]

Hey use the scooter till you get the van running right plus you need to be with aapr or aaa member I have the lizard 🦎 with towing catch you next time

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Thanks again !

[@joenobles1086]

Hey check with AAA I can't remember what my mom pays they even came out and changed her battery all she paid was the price of a battery not to shabby

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

@@joenobles1086 yeah I'm need to do that!

[@TheYnnad77]

check for a short on your voltage supply

[@TheYnnad77]

Short was in relay..... Causing draw on power terminal.

[@TheYnnad77]

ok i didnt watch the whole video. but am still convinced it is some sought of short or corroded wire.

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Yeah. I'm not done yet. Thanks for tuning in!

[@carlcurry9219]

Have problem with 2005 astro no fuel or fire fuel pump changed

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. I feel for you. Trust me. I went the same route and changed the pump first too. It originally had a bad ground the pump was good. Then I changed out everything that would cause a no spark situation instead of testing everything. It was easier to swap out the parts/sensors then test everything individually and wait for the next thing to go bad. Nothing is worse than dying at an intersection, twice, especially with no hazard lights. I think it finally boiled down to the relays in the hood fuse box.

[@highwatercircutrider]

Save up some money and buy an antique truck or van with just one wire to the distributor from the ignition switch and a simple set of points, condenser, cap and rotor. What was ever wrong with a fuel pump bolted to the engine with just two bolts and two fuel lines? I bought a mint 1964 Ford Falcon Ranchero pickup….problem solved!

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. Thanks for tuning in. Yeah I miss my 84 G-20. Kept it on the road for 20 years! Thanks again !

[@highwatercircutrider]

@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 check out the ‘rolling engine stand/water tank’ setup I built on my youtube channel: highwatercircutrider

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

@@highwatercircutrider ok

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

@@highwatercircutrider I don't see it?

[@highwatercircutrider]

@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 the view of my outboard stand wheel setup is at 1 minute mark of my most recent video on the Sears 3hp air cooled motor.....thanks for checking it out!

[@whiskerdreams7146]

The more I watch the video the more I go to the neutral safety swith!!!

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

I'll check into that. Thanks !

[@whiskerdreams7146]

@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 mine left me stranded more than once before I figured out what the issue was.. The neutral safety switch affects so much,there are 8-10 wires that come out of it.. They are pre-set when you purchase one..

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

@@whiskerdreams7146 Yeah I did some research on it and had it happen on another vehicle once. anyway it said I should be getting a code and I'm not and the starter motor won't turn bit it does. This crap will drive you crazy! thx again

[@MasonLee22]

Can’t kill these motors.

[@MasonLee22]

@@fastwin493 I had two of these vans and my last one I had over 400k miles on it before I bought the one I have now and I’m just at 330k now. I have issues just like any other older motor has but yet every time I bring it back to life. Everything you just mentioned is from poor maintenance not something that all 4.3 have in common

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. Thanks again for tuning in!

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Thx!

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Haha! Thx!

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Thanks for tuning in!

[@stevengaines1935]

Not how to but had to

[@THISOLDOUTBOARD1]

Hey. It's killing me!