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CHIBSON Must Try Harder! Terrible FAKE Gibson Reverse Flying V | Luthier Teardown

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@PaulCooksStuff
@PaulCooksStuff Жыл бұрын
You could use that as a giant "guitar museum this way" arrow sign 😂
@rockingchair2807
@rockingchair2807 Жыл бұрын
👍 everything has a purpose.
@Craftlngo
@Craftlngo Жыл бұрын
and you won't see the crappy woodwork on the guitar from a far! Good suggestion
@paulcantrell1615
@paulcantrell1615 Жыл бұрын
I second this.
@atrumluminarium
@atrumluminarium Жыл бұрын
I support this concept
@marcelogaea1064
@marcelogaea1064 Жыл бұрын
Make it happen, Ben
@tehsimo
@tehsimo Жыл бұрын
Why would anyone bother to fake such a horrific design
@howarddickson8727
@howarddickson8727 Жыл бұрын
I love the idea of a room full of fakes to enjoy... surely it needs a door sign which reads "Faking Hell"! 😂
@Forest_Fifer
@Forest_Fifer Жыл бұрын
This has to happen...
@crswro1690
@crswro1690 Жыл бұрын
The fake might be an abomination but let's be honest. So is the gibson reverse v...
@geddylee501
@geddylee501 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@ali2ndmail
@ali2ndmail Жыл бұрын
It’s hard to argue with that. Where they differ is the Chibson would burn much quicker due to the light wood.
@frankcarter6427
@frankcarter6427 Жыл бұрын
at least the chibbo is a cheap herap of crap
@michaelmenkes8085
@michaelmenkes8085 Жыл бұрын
they made it only because someone had made a fake meme about it as a joke. And one of the most limited runs ever.
@crswro1690
@crswro1690 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelmenkes8085 what was their excuse for the Corvus, firebird X, moderne and modern V? cant blame a meme for those abominations.
@Craftlngo
@Craftlngo Жыл бұрын
I've never needed the _"Burn It!"_ intro more than now.
@ChrisHopkinsBass
@ChrisHopkinsBass Жыл бұрын
I wonder if they’re being made “out of hours” at the Epiphone factory using reject/defective parts/body blanks that were marked to go in the bin
@KriemenGaming
@KriemenGaming Жыл бұрын
Yes, love the idea of a "fakes" section. As much as I hate seeing fakes marketed as the real thing, I also find it quite interesting to see them up close. A great opportunity to show and teach what to look for.
@christopherwright2153
@christopherwright2153 Жыл бұрын
I think a room of fakes is great, just for the educational info of how to identify fake or counterfeit guitars for people like me who don't have the extensive knowledge of how the authentic guitars are built
@zackvega9596
@zackvega9596 Жыл бұрын
I'm all for a "wall of shame" at the museum!
@JeffBarberDigideus
@JeffBarberDigideus Жыл бұрын
That chibson neck is probably stronger than an actual Gibson/Epiphone. I'm a fan of guitars that use scarf joints. At least you could re-use that one as an arrow on the wall with a "This way to the bar" sign on it
@LisaHarsh
@LisaHarsh Жыл бұрын
Fake instruments are part of the history of guitars. Of course you should have a section for them.
@briw4647
@briw4647 Жыл бұрын
Many homages are great starting points, such as harley benton. They don't use premium electronics, but the wood is solid and easy to upgrade the pots and pickups. Frets can be polished and Levelled. However, I do not like fakes, guitars labelled as a genuine product
@myrandarose2883
@myrandarose2883 Жыл бұрын
I love the idea of a section of fakes - especially if there's some clear indications of what to look for in fakes, how to spot them, why they sound bad etc...
@fabianhulk9275
@fabianhulk9275 Жыл бұрын
Do they really sound bad or do the pickups sound bad?
@michaelmenkes8085
@michaelmenkes8085 Жыл бұрын
The lawsuit era is a really appropriate division of the museum, and many of those fakes were quality instruments
@RocketPunkArt
@RocketPunkArt Жыл бұрын
I would call it the Hall of Fake, because everyone loves a good pun
@atakdragonfly1675
@atakdragonfly1675 Жыл бұрын
The circus freaks! "Behold, ladies and gentlemen.. Step right up!!"
@Lamster66
@Lamster66 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelmenkes8085 Why does everyone go on about the Lawsuit that never was? That action was Raised against Ibanez ( and over the Les Paul copy they were making) and was settled. When Ibanez Changed the Shape of the headstock and Design of their logo. As the design was concidered public domain. Something Fender later found out when trying to patent their designs several decades too late! The term Lawsuit Era seems to have been adopted by peole trying to sell a sub standard Japanese copy guitar from the 1960s and 70s. The is only 1 guitar that can ever be classed as such and that is the Ibanez Les Paul with the open book style headstock
@Furtheronmusic
@Furtheronmusic Жыл бұрын
The really annoying thing is that of course with Gibson on the headstock it can never be sold on, to do so in the UK is illegal. If they just put on another logo you could at least sell it
@danielwotton5961
@danielwotton5961 Жыл бұрын
An abomination copy of an abomination? Doesn't a double negative make a positive?
@Craftlngo
@Craftlngo Жыл бұрын
no, it actually exponentiate the level of abomination!
@ChrisHopkinsBass
@ChrisHopkinsBass Жыл бұрын
As it’s a chibson that adds an extra negative. 3 negatives makes a negative 😀
@MooCow2X2
@MooCow2X2 Жыл бұрын
The chibson has a permanent absolute value of -1 so no matter what. It will always be negative. 🤣
@dnizy
@dnizy Жыл бұрын
This gave me an idea. It would be quite interesting from a comparison perspective as well as for the giveaway site to get a bunch of the highly rated on KZbin budget brand guitars in to do a teardown, inspection, setup etc. These KZbinrs rate these guitars pretty highly and suggest they punch above their weight compared to Fender, Gibson etc. I've just watched 1 from Pherotone studios on a Vintage brand guitar. Other brands I've seen praised like that include Eart, Firefly, Harley Benton. Even some bigger brands have some highly rated budget guitars like Yamaha with their Pacifica and Revstars, or Ibanez with the AZES models.
@raggedbreath
@raggedbreath Жыл бұрын
Sounds great! Where can I buy myself one!? :o
@gpurkeljc
@gpurkeljc Жыл бұрын
I can confidently say that this guitar gave the builder no satisfaction during its construction.
@brymills
@brymills Жыл бұрын
I’d have laughed if the headstock had snapped off when you stamped it! 😂
@claudevieaul1465
@claudevieaul1465 Жыл бұрын
Only a Gibson does that 🤣
@rvaguitars
@rvaguitars Жыл бұрын
Be careful, Ben I split a headstock right down the middle doing that on a guitar that was pretty much done.
@ianbull6116
@ianbull6116 Жыл бұрын
A room full of fakes would be worth the entrance fee alone. Both educational and entertaining. Throw in some picture galleries of other chibsons and it would be a great resource for anyone considering buying an expensive guitar
@chrisggoodwin777
@chrisggoodwin777 Жыл бұрын
I actually like the "room o' fakes" idea for the museum! And this isn't a flying V, it's a flying Star Trek emblem lol
@peterjones3100
@peterjones3100 Жыл бұрын
I'm terribly disappointed that upon saying "let's take this apart shall we..." it wasn't taken onto the roof and launched into the air to meet the concrete ground. do better next time Ben, give it the love it deserves.
@jozsefizsak
@jozsefizsak Жыл бұрын
Words fail me. I'm used to some serious levels of bad but that shape is even beyond parody. Then there's the sound.
@lodyb
@lodyb Жыл бұрын
Interlaced!
@thisisshaun1
@thisisshaun1 Жыл бұрын
that is horrendously awesome
@dadgad1046
@dadgad1046 Жыл бұрын
I read somewhere those are made by guitar factory workers that "moonlight" in a facility after hours. Work the better paid real skill sweat shop drones don't want to do. The best of the lower skill level if best refers to will work cheap after hours. :) It was a "sport" here in the Colonies a area also know as the USA to order a Chibson just to see if it made it through customs.
@billsguitargarage
@billsguitargarage Жыл бұрын
A "fake" room with Chibsons, etc... sounds like a great idea
@mikestringfellow7999
@mikestringfellow7999 Жыл бұрын
I’m looking forward to coming and seeing The Great Chinese Fake-off at the museum!
@RobinHood-yk8og
@RobinHood-yk8og Жыл бұрын
Bad & Cheap is par for the course. Bad & Expensive is what you really need to look out for, and you'll usually get that specifically from 'legit' products. The really interesting ittems are those which marry quality with value, and at that point it doesn't matter if it's a fake or not.
@borgonianevolution
@borgonianevolution Жыл бұрын
Well at least they have done something smarter and better then many custom guitar builders. They put strap lock buttons on it. I STILL to this day can not understand why professional Luthiers use old style strap buttons that jeopardize the safety of a multi thousand dollar instrument.
@geddylee501
@geddylee501 Жыл бұрын
It's actually dangerous, three pointy corners... take your eye out lol
@peteannells4218
@peteannells4218 Жыл бұрын
A fakes room ? If it helps to tell the story of electric guitars it could also contain the lawsuit era etc. If it's just for fun, keep it virtual Gallery space is priceless, wasted walls are an abomination.
@msrblonline
@msrblonline Жыл бұрын
for a correct price, i would have been sooooo happy to have that piece of firewood as a teen :)
@craigfish7890
@craigfish7890 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video, thank you for posting it. I found a fake Chuck Schuldiner BC Rich on ebay or reverb, would love to see you check that one out.
@MrAZed209
@MrAZed209 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe that Ben stamped FAKE into the headstock. That's gonna reduce the resale value somewhat!
@Forest_Fifer
@Forest_Fifer Жыл бұрын
How hard is it really to plane the body pieces so they fit together properly?
@blegend9351
@blegend9351 Жыл бұрын
Whoever invented the paper airplane needs to send a cease and desist.
@peachmelba1000
@peachmelba1000 Жыл бұрын
How did they drill between those two circular cavities...?
@TorazChryx
@TorazChryx Жыл бұрын
Was the video uploaded from an Interlaced source for some reason?
@Lomni
@Lomni Жыл бұрын
what's up with the video quality? scan lines everywhere, like i'm in back in the 90s again.
@hcolguitars
@hcolguitars Жыл бұрын
The headstock never broke! Of course, this is a fake one.
@hairlab9646
@hairlab9646 Жыл бұрын
Curious: It seems as though it would be more helpful to consumers if you bought a couple of the absolutely scary higher-end fakes to reduce the number of people that get ripped off. I took apart a Nitro-finished, non-veneer flame maple cap Les Paul that was a Gibson parts from fooling anyone who hasn't seen hundreds of USA Les Pauls. Judging from the guitars that come through our local shop, there seems to be a MUCH bigger difference between $300 fakes and $800 fakes than between USA Gibsons and Chinese Epiphones.
@halbertking2683
@halbertking2683 Жыл бұрын
That's up there with the Hondo copy of a Fender Lead ll .
@howarddickson8727
@howarddickson8727 Жыл бұрын
Looks more like a mouse cursor! 😂
@oneminutebugs
@oneminutebugs Жыл бұрын
You need to make a giant bow to go with that arrow!
@Forest_Fifer
@Forest_Fifer Жыл бұрын
I can't believe you didn't burn the FAKE into it. Then the demo started, and the top horn was almost sticking up his nose.....I suppose if you wanted to smoke while playing, you could replace the top horn strap button scree with a nail, and impale a cigarette on the end.
@stu-j
@stu-j Жыл бұрын
I had a chibson les paul custom come in for a setup and Ben it was actually quite good and even had fret nibs. The tell tale things like metric bridge and the logo was just wrong but the actual guitar was quite good. The pickups even had the pat pending decal on them and fake grover tuners! Would I buy one? Nope but my bugbear is it could fool a lot of people if you changed the bridge and tuners and even if you took it apart the pickups had the braded wire! And fake cts pots! So someone could get scammed....
@k.tucker599
@k.tucker599 Жыл бұрын
Chibby faked guitar - jiving us that it was doodoo... (ow! stop throwing things!)
@ChrisHopkinsBass
@ChrisHopkinsBass Жыл бұрын
2:55 that looks like an epic bottle opener
@ChrisHopkinsBass
@ChrisHopkinsBass Жыл бұрын
1:55 absolute quality woodworking there
@BlankBlankerson-py3ms
@BlankBlankerson-py3ms Жыл бұрын
Oh egregiously bad you say... So it´s a faithful replica...?
@kbkman7742
@kbkman7742 Жыл бұрын
Is that an old PRS ce on the wall? What is the story there
@bearcladxd
@bearcladxd Жыл бұрын
Looks like a giant mouse pointer lol
@astilgar
@astilgar Жыл бұрын
Hey guys. Did you know that Great Guitar Giveaway site is broken? Can you fix it please?
@astilgar
@astilgar Жыл бұрын
Ok it's fixed now. Thanks!
@johnjohnson-pt7rd
@johnjohnson-pt7rd Жыл бұрын
Use this guitar as a shovel to break ground for the guitar museum
@mbontekoe3358
@mbontekoe3358 Жыл бұрын
"copy" guitars have always been in existence more than 100 years - it has always been simpler to use an existing design than construct a new one, and in fact how many realistic shapes are there? Is it just the decal or the headstock shape or the similarity that defines a copy? All acoustic guitars are literally copies as are all bicycles My first "copy" guitar was a Shaftsbury (in the Dorset tradition) version of a Rickenbacher 360 in the mid 70's on which they forgot the Rick trait of lacquering the rosewood fret board, but it was pretty crap. My friend had a D35 made by "Marlin" with the V form in the back but it was laminated . Tokai made copies of Fenders that were so good that Fender contracted them to make their Japanese production. Ibanez initially made copies of everything including models that the original manufacturer never put into production -e.g. the Gibson Moderne. There are bad copies as there are bad guitars but there are also very good copies we should not forget the UK's late Sid Poole (not from Dorset despite his surname) whose LP "derived" models now sell in the 10's of thousands. Those who read his book will know that Dan Erlewine built a Flying V copy for Albert King because the Gibson was too expensive. In the early 60's Gibson went rather crazy they were loosing market share to Fender hand over fist, the Les Paul had failed, and the brought out a number of quite honestly impractical designs Firebird. Explorer Moderne etc The only logical model was the flying V because you could stand it up without risk that it fell over- however none of these guitars fitted in a normal case. Gibson missed the reason that Fender sold more was the colours you could choose. The inverted Flying V has no reason even from Gibson it is a stupid guitar and should be ridiculed, copies no matter how bad should be welcomed. If the Chinese copy in this film had been sprayed then most of the issues would have been invisible It actually costs around 200 pounds so what do people expect. Where does Tolman (HarveyBenton) fit in this they just basically copy every guitar on the market?
@paulferraby1202
@paulferraby1202 Жыл бұрын
An entertaining look at a cheap guitar and what you get with it and an interesting lesson in what you don't get with a more expensive guitar that has had a little more care applied.
@crasheenarino
@crasheenarino Жыл бұрын
The Chinese guy watching Ben tear apart his work -> 😢
@BayAreaBrenner
@BayAreaBrenner Жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, I like the shape better than Gibson’s Reverse V. Put an Explorer headstock on it and I’d buy one.
@davelewis4215
@davelewis4215 Жыл бұрын
Ben, They are great as wall art.👍I’ve wanted one of the black reverse headstock fake Gibson’s like the one Trogly bought a while back .
@alisonrowlinson4139
@alisonrowlinson4139 Жыл бұрын
Love the videos but could you please turn your voice volume up 👍
@ChrisHopkinsBass
@ChrisHopkinsBass Жыл бұрын
It looks like a some sort of darts trophy
@guitfidle
@guitfidle Жыл бұрын
FYI, I own 2 real Gibsons from the 80s that had gobs of polishing compound in every cavity. My 82 The V had so much in the truss rod pocket you could barely use the truss rod. I spent a while on both guitars with dental probes, toothpicks, jewelers drivers etc cleaning that crap out.
@atakdragonfly1675
@atakdragonfly1675 Жыл бұрын
It always looks rough in there....! I always wanted to make a guitar where all of those cavities were FINISHED, just as good as the faces you see. I know I'll never see it... But I'll know!!!
@guitfidle
@guitfidle Жыл бұрын
@@atakdragonfly1675 I do that on everything I build. I think it just looks more professional.
@normbarrows
@normbarrows Жыл бұрын
You should have both a Hall of Reproductions, and a Hall of Shame. This thing definitely belongs in the latter, or strip it for parts and toss it on the fire.
@danrunnoft6642
@danrunnoft6642 Жыл бұрын
If you're going to get a stupid guitar, like a "Reverse Flying V", you might as well get a really stupid guitar, like a fake "Reverse Flying V".
@robertprichard3236
@robertprichard3236 Жыл бұрын
They were practicing on how to defeat quality because they were starting to get better than Gibsons real quality control
@AndyMartin401
@AndyMartin401 Жыл бұрын
How about building an ergonomic guitar?
@rowbags3017
@rowbags3017 Жыл бұрын
I love the idea of the room of fakes! 😎
@notplaying2379
@notplaying2379 Жыл бұрын
I don’t like fake guitars, I just don’t see the point. I’ve never seen a Chibson that didn’t need at least £200 worth of work to sort it out. I like good cheap guitars though.
@markmilligan8773
@markmilligan8773 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed that. How yo spot a fake. Obvious by the looks of it. I also like my favorite game now what song does josh's playing sound like. This one ziggy stardust lol
@GASH_one
@GASH_one Жыл бұрын
Nice "Djibson" :D
@suhrrex
@suhrrex Жыл бұрын
There are a few real Gibsons with Dual action trussrod; like the SG GT, but yes that is out of the norm
@forton615
@forton615 Жыл бұрын
Just like bootleg records some of them might be collector items some day.
@roytofilovski9530
@roytofilovski9530 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised it has Epi pickups tbh.
@gnaflethegarthok3074
@gnaflethegarthok3074 Жыл бұрын
Hey man, what size band saw is good for making guitars? Or which one do you have?
@mattomon1045
@mattomon1045 Жыл бұрын
A Terrible FAKE Thank you Ben for showing us this!
@memriloc
@memriloc Жыл бұрын
Oh feck me. I thought it looked stupid until I saw it being played hahaha.
@malcolmhardwick4258
@malcolmhardwick4258 Жыл бұрын
Have you tried firing it on a bow !
@paulneeds
@paulneeds Жыл бұрын
No - DON’T try harder next time! Don’t even try this hard!
@TheOnlyJesushippie
@TheOnlyJesushippie Жыл бұрын
Hey Ben, I want that fake Guitar, call me!!
@claudevieaul1465
@claudevieaul1465 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the Flying V, and the reverse (whether Gibson or a copy) just really makes my skin itch - it's horrific 🤣🤣🤣🤣 As far as the 7 piece body is concerned: I did have a real Gibson V ('85 XPL-V actually, quite rare), and thát had a 5 piece mismatched mahogany body, absolutely slathered with the worst black paint job I've ever seen. Stripped it, there were deep gauges in the wood filled with some weird blue putty - and it was all original, as made and sold by Gibson. Total rubbish. I also have a Chibson, and - while an obvious fake - it is rather better built than that '85 V.
@matthewkabat4633
@matthewkabat4633 Жыл бұрын
Good afternoon Ben how are you today
@650thunderbird
@650thunderbird Жыл бұрын
Salvador Dalí signature model.
@Fawkes1978
@Fawkes1978 Жыл бұрын
The Flying Massive Arrowhead!
@shanewalton8888
@shanewalton8888 Жыл бұрын
It's almost as bad as an actual Gibson.
@alexcorona
@alexcorona Жыл бұрын
I collect cameras and I have a section in my collection that has Russian fakes of German and Japanese bodies. I enjoy them a lot.
@larryharshmanjr5634
@larryharshmanjr5634 Жыл бұрын
Looks like an oversized arrow
@tellicoadventuretrail
@tellicoadventuretrail Жыл бұрын
abomination is a fair description
@Apillicus
@Apillicus Жыл бұрын
For the inexperienced, not at all me of course, how bad does this sound and how would one tell?
@PaulCooksStuff
@PaulCooksStuff Жыл бұрын
If they're genuine Epiphone pickups, not just fake stamps (why would they fake an Epi stamp instead of faking a Gibson one), in all honesty it'll probably sound as good as an Epiphone. Pretty reasonable.
@Apillicus
@Apillicus Жыл бұрын
@PaulCooksStuff oh well that's not so bad. Just incredibly sloppy build 😆 I would never let this leave my shop, but I'm also not in the business of building fakes. £400 for this, I should consider changing jobs
@infrasound
@infrasound Жыл бұрын
the shapes wrong.... lol this is worse than the cosb-V (the v2)
@DanDjurdjevicplus
@DanDjurdjevicplus Жыл бұрын
Those joins…
@thehowlingterror
@thehowlingterror Жыл бұрын
That's my dream guitar...okay it was a bad dream.
@atakdragonfly1675
@atakdragonfly1675 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't feel bad about modifying it SEVERELY, just to try and get rid of that ugly wide shape. Total new shape. Start scalloping and beveling all over the place, especially in the "cutaway" areas. The sides in there. I'd change the shape entirely! And where's your forearm going to rest? This is one of those guitars you have to float over to play. Your can't rest your forearm of you're picking hand on it, even you're palm muting the cheesecake!! You have to float the arm. At least for me, I think.
@robinfawcett7973
@robinfawcett7973 Жыл бұрын
Did it come out of a cracker?🤣
@CrimsonCustomGuitars
@CrimsonCustomGuitars Жыл бұрын
Might as well have!
@atakdragonfly1675
@atakdragonfly1675 Жыл бұрын
They merged with the reverse moderne...
@anonymousbotch7370
@anonymousbotch7370 Жыл бұрын
could use the upper bout as a chinrest when sitting!!
@brandonb1681
@brandonb1681 Жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of any inverted V guitar. They look ridiculous.
@CrimsonCustomGuitars
@CrimsonCustomGuitars Жыл бұрын
It's one of those 'they're just trying too hard' guitars.. kind of like a guy with head tatts 😆
@deadadam666
@deadadam666 Жыл бұрын
is anyone else seeing some really weird encoding/interlacing issues in this video ?
@atakdragonfly1675
@atakdragonfly1675 Жыл бұрын
Yes, but I also noticed it elsewhere in KZbin.......
@garyhardman8369
@garyhardman8369 Жыл бұрын
Even the genuine article is, IMHO probably the ugliest guitar in the universe!
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