Dawson wrote about this in his book... On July 23, 1991, during a game against the Reds at Wrigley Field, I had a run-in with home-plate umpire Joe West that led to an uncharacteristic tantrum on my part. The whole thing started in the seventh inning after West rang me up on a Norm Charlton breaking pitch I thought was clearly off the plate. It's common for players and umps to exchange a few words in these situations, so I gave Joe a piece of my mind while standing at home plate. I was about to head back to the dugout when he yelled, "Go sit down!" and tossed me from the game. I turned around and noticed he had a big smirk on his face. That set me off. I didn't see anything funny about the situation. I took a couple steps toward Joe and inadvertently bumped his chest. That was a definite no-no in player-umpire relations, and I knew I'd be hearing from the league office for the indiscretion. As I walked back to the dugout, I saw West was still smirking. I thought to myself, "Okay, if I'm getting kicked out and fined anyway, I'm going to get my money's worth." I went back to the dugout and started tossing bats onto the field. I noticed West counting the number of bats I threw, so I decided to see how high he could count. In the end, there were 15 pieces of lumber on the field. While I was heaving bats, (Jim) Essian was out on the field throwing a fit of his own. ...A few days later, the league office fined me $1,000 and handed me a one-game suspension for "nearly inciting a riot." Maybe worst of all, I got scolded by my mom, who called me after the incident to ask, "What the hell's your problem?!" My problem was that West had blown the call. On the memo line of the check to National League President Bill White I wrote, "Donation to the blind."
@wyliestivers2634 Жыл бұрын
Donation to the blind!!! I love it!!!
@kerrytodd3753 Жыл бұрын
Awesome story….I know the smirk he’s talking about, west was the best at the “smirk”…..arrogant fuk
@michaelfalkner1186 Жыл бұрын
Should've been a month -- especially because the league made note of the incitement of a riot.
@edwinearl4584 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t see anything wrong with the call. Angel Hernandez.
@rpm773 Жыл бұрын
Dawson was so great. With the exception of '89, the Cubs were terrible while he was there, but it was great to have him out there.
@Steve156045 жыл бұрын
Andre “The Hawk” Dawson, a man of few words who let his bat or bats do his talking! I miss the good old days of Cubs baseball on WGN with Steve and Harry!
@J.C... Жыл бұрын
Yep. And Atlanta on TBS.
@Geotubest5 жыл бұрын
Steve Stone....one of the greatest baseball minds around. Love him and Caray together.
@udrinkit5 ай бұрын
Ditto
@GratefulInRecovery5 ай бұрын
How did he (Steve Stone) go from 25-7 and a 1980 Cy Young Award with my Orioles to Cubs announcer? Anyone have any knowledge? I loved his windup, and emulated it as a kid.
@JDubs997Ай бұрын
@GratefulInRecovery My best guess was that he spent 6 years in Chicago with the Cubs and Sox (3 years with each) before playing with the O's and came back after he retired. One of the all-time best analysts in baseball history.
@swedishchefhands90373 жыл бұрын
Harry Caray was just the best. Always describing the scene with the excitement of a kid who was seeing it for the first time.
@leogetz3570 Жыл бұрын
Andre Dawson has said the worse thing about that incident was that he got scolded by his mom!!
@300deebo4 жыл бұрын
Dawson was one of the most composed players in the game. If you pissed him off, you definitely did something wrong.
@truthillinois63972 жыл бұрын
I remember this game. Shortly afterwards, Dawson was fined $500. In the memo part of the check he wrote, “Donation for the blind.”
@JosephJohnson-kg5yr Жыл бұрын
$500 was nothing in 1991! Maybe to me now 😂
@Matttaylor016 Жыл бұрын
What I've noticed lately watching these old baseball clips, the camera work is top notch. Unbelievable job. Well done.
@mayavenuemisfit814 Жыл бұрын
I agree. You don't need Google Statcast and all that other crap to tell a story. These camera crews did a hell of a job of doing so in the 1980s and 1990s on sheer skill and talent alone. Same thing with announcers. You could absolutely hate baseball, but by the time you're done watching a Cubs game called by Harry Caray, you'll absolutely love the game.
@ryand.58574 жыл бұрын
I was at this game when I was a kid. This was a magical night. My fam was on vacation in Chicago and we had tickets to this game. Little did I know my dad had called his friend, a scout for the Cubbies, and set up a few introductions for me. I met and shook hands with Mark Grace, Luis Salazar, and Ced Landrum before the game, and then they let me walk out onto the field. Standing on that grass was a religious experience, my friends, and I’ve been a diehard Cubs fan ever since. I very well remember the atmosphere around the stadium, and EVERYONE was on the Hawk’s side, even some of the Reds fans who were sitting close to us. Joe West was such a douche. It was super cool seeing the ground crew conquer the bleacher bum litter onslaught though haha! Those guys were like machines!
@bobbyshizz21384 жыл бұрын
Joe West... Blowing calls since 1976
@1who4me5 ай бұрын
Bobbyshizz, blowing dudes since 2020
@r.a.contrerasma85785 жыл бұрын
If Eric Gregg and Joe West had a kid his name would be Angel Hernández.
@BigJ769375 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Mr.Derogatory3165 жыл бұрын
Are you sure it wasn't a Wally Bell?
@chrishickey75024 жыл бұрын
😂 😂 😂
@OBESPRING19824 жыл бұрын
And Doug Harvey was his gramps.
@toddhursey87664 жыл бұрын
Looked like stttttiirke 3
@cubsgo236 жыл бұрын
Andre was a man’s man. A pro’s pro. Dude was legit. And, when he hit a HR at Wrigley Field, he hit it over a tru-link fence.
@ollyhollins43196 жыл бұрын
El Niperoo 23 wow you actually remember that commercial...Hes the reason I picked up a bat...Ahhh I miss when WGN and baseball was all I had to worry about
@VioletDeliriums6 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAH!
@jimijakjones995 жыл бұрын
Dawson hit home runs down the street lol
@mikeb86385 жыл бұрын
I remember watching WGN on cable while here in Houston I forget what year it was but the game where Andre Dawson was making nothing but homers and they switched the Cubs score card on t.v. was Andre Dawson vs the other team , I was like Hell Yea , Go Cubs !!!!
@unclejune28395 жыл бұрын
Mans man? He was a baby
@stevenfostering48955 жыл бұрын
Oh, the irony, George Bell is attempting to restrain Andre Dawson.
@wrldchamps043 жыл бұрын
Exactly my thoughts
@stumarston68123 жыл бұрын
ha ha I was thinking the same thing. Not good when George Bell is the reasonable one.
@JohnMegaton2062 Жыл бұрын
I watched this live. One of the craziest games of all time that also included that idiotic Dibble play. It was a bad call, West had been bad all night, and Dawson finally had enough. A bad zone literally takes the bats out of hitters hands when they’re already at a disadvantage, and doing that sucks for the game. Joe West could have calmed the situation down but could never help running his big yap to escalate. West loved to play the villain. Dawson obliged that night.
@TheRmm19767 жыл бұрын
I watched this live and it was epic! EVERYONE loved Andre Dawson, in or outside of Chicago. Watching him go nuts on Joe West and seeing the fans support him with their reaction was priceless! The bats were just icing on the cake. That look and eyes of Dawson in the dugout epitomized why he was called THE HAWK!
@autodidact24997 жыл бұрын
+TheRmm1076 You mean he was the HAWKSHIT, don't you?
@samclosetech5 жыл бұрын
@@autodidact2499 Go lay by your dish.
@jeremyc95934 жыл бұрын
@@autodidact2499 In that case, his nickname was similar to yours. You guys could start a buddy cop movie, The Hawkshit and The Dipshit.
@Foggen12316 жыл бұрын
Joe West was incompetent twenty years ago, and incompetent today. How does he keep his job! Are umpires untouchable. Not only that he 'as a regular in World Series. How!!!!
@classic-kool5 жыл бұрын
The MLUU.. (union)..
@kornami86785 жыл бұрын
Union members.
@adamwesley29854 жыл бұрын
20 years? Try 30
@ScottieMacF6 ай бұрын
He may have made the wrong call here, but it wasn't that egregious. Plus he knew he was wrong and gave Dawkins a lot of rope when arguing.
@10dfreed6 ай бұрын
Because it’s rigged
@mikefleck76595 жыл бұрын
Harry Carry and Bob Ucker are legends in baseball.
@terminat16 ай бұрын
Uecker.
@jacobjones52695 жыл бұрын
I’m a Cub fan, and a Bud man!.. Harry Caray..
@andyreid72744 жыл бұрын
Legend. Was banging Auggie Busch's wife and got run out of St Louis.
@mrsain196 жыл бұрын
Eric Gregg aka Carl Winslow. He moonlit as a major league ump during night games in Chicago lol. West reached all the way back to flying the Hawk from the game. That batting stance is forever epic.
@martinluthierking7 жыл бұрын
what a damn physical specimen the Hawk was..the sound of Stone and Caray voices takes me back so hard
@jimijakjones995 жыл бұрын
I still can't believe the Cubs fired Steve Stone because he said La troy Hawkins shouldn't be the closer . Cubs lost Farnsworth , Sosa , Stone all because of Dusty Baker . I never was the same die hard cubbie fan again .
@galan012255 жыл бұрын
Bro..... I was in my time warp when I came across your comment. Your absolutely right 👍.
@galan012255 жыл бұрын
truth2masses truthatlast no Steve Stone?
@larrysnipes71135 жыл бұрын
Yeah Harry Carry was the man. I still think about Will Farrell's impersonation of him cracks me up. Dawson straight 'went on one's right there.
@bevrosity5 жыл бұрын
still miss stone on the north side broadcasts
@fivebooks84986 жыл бұрын
I was watching this game live. I was in summer school at the time and doing homework in the living room with the game on. I think it was summer of 91 or 92. I’ve talked about this incident for years. Can’t believe I found this video. This is the first time I’ve seen it since I watched it live.
@frankwhite18955 жыл бұрын
Hawk picked up all those bats like he was picking up wiffle ball bats
@larsonmarkov16995 жыл бұрын
Dawson in his prime was very lean and strong
@ultimtdisc5 жыл бұрын
Joe West and Eric Gregg on the same crew? Oh. My. god.
@tokenblack79833 жыл бұрын
Seriously. What’s crazy is I take Joe in a heartbeat over Eric Greg. The Marlins braves game still haunts me
@seancohen813 жыл бұрын
Wait till Angel gets there....
@jesusshuttlesworth89723 жыл бұрын
@@tokenblack7983 Livan with that enormous strike zone? I remember watching that game and to this day I've never seen a bigger strike zone than I saw that day. I don't remember if the Braves were getting the same but usually Gregg is fair
@terminat16 ай бұрын
God.
@mikeallison97496 жыл бұрын
Joe West is a buffoon. My grandfather used to tell the story of Joe West throwing an organ player out of the game for playing 3 blind mice after a bad call when West was in the southern league
@ultimtdisc5 жыл бұрын
He kicked a camera man out of a game for showing the Mets coaching staff a call West had, surprise, surprise, blown.
@bobknob58195 жыл бұрын
Mike Allison great story
@Abr0225754 жыл бұрын
An umpire can eject the organist?
@kenhurley44414 жыл бұрын
@@Abr022575 Probably,,,,, 3 blind mice and off key!
@BTsMusicChannel4 жыл бұрын
@@Abr022575 Just go with it...It's a great story.
@TheGuitologist4 жыл бұрын
The Hawk was all class. A credit to the game of baseball. I remember watching this game on TV.
@danielhayes79674 жыл бұрын
The Hawk was hosed on that call.
@captainkev103 жыл бұрын
Ball was outside, sure, but there has to be more to the story to warrant this sort of reaction from Hawk. Any more info on this game/exchange?
@Mr.Derogatory3163 жыл бұрын
Harry Carry is the real classy person
@YaowBucketHEAD3 жыл бұрын
lol. I forgot Dawson's nickname and immediately thought you were praising Hawk Harrelson for some reason. 🤮
@joeysbestfriend26145 жыл бұрын
Back when Joe West only had 3 chins
@mysoundrights5 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@johnschmitt65645 жыл бұрын
That is very good
@charlierobles3165 жыл бұрын
Haha
@bearpayton345 жыл бұрын
I’m really cracking up here!!! Thanks
@juanelorriaga28405 жыл бұрын
That belt he’s wearing is working so hard to keep that fat in
@allanrscott4 жыл бұрын
It was the July 23, 1991 game and the final score was actual 8-5 with the Cubs winning.
@redwingfan93935 жыл бұрын
30 years later Joe West is still screwing up games.
@FUYT8885 жыл бұрын
Sad thing is, he'll get a pension! For being a screwup!
@christophermaiolo16695 жыл бұрын
Why doesnt he drop dead already
@kevinkarg44644 жыл бұрын
Every freakin' umpire in the major leagues is screwin' up games!
@KylerPeltier Жыл бұрын
@@kevinkarg4464refs mess up calls in every sport and people always wanna say shits rigged but they're only human any 1 of us would mess up calls to
@jmhis347 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine what the suspension would look like these days!
@jeffspence66107 жыл бұрын
Immediate ejection if a payer argues any pitch call.
@carloswilson6716 жыл бұрын
Nowdays we over react and this leads to too many rules and penalties. All of these people were being affected by the July heat. I'd have hated to be in those stands and get sticky from the beer and the pop or worse hit in the head by a flying beer container. Dibble was Dibble. He threw a ball at a runner and could have hurt the runner.
@richieh64654 жыл бұрын
harry and steve!! wow miss those days immensely
@jonlate45816 жыл бұрын
Harry Carey could've launched a few empty Bud cans...
@carlosmatos98485 жыл бұрын
Sure sounded like it.
@subg88585 жыл бұрын
He was a Falstaff man with the Sox. What a sell out!
@MrPhilrock15 жыл бұрын
Solid gold
@philmontejano59715 жыл бұрын
A few six packs
@yell0wberry4 жыл бұрын
I heard some of those cans of beer thrown on the field didn’t exactly have beer in them as they were being picked up
@shawnandrew35925 жыл бұрын
I miss watching these games everyday with harry calling them. Great memories.
@conchfritters016 жыл бұрын
All time favorite Cub. Love you Hawk!!!
@thezdbailey7 жыл бұрын
Andre Dawson was my first hero as a kid. I remember watching this game live and I couldn't understand how Dawson could get so upset. I've hated Joe West ever since I must admit.
@autodidact24997 жыл бұрын
+Zach V ... you mean you hate the people who maintain order in the game of baseball? What do you do for kicks, steal hubcaps?
@ledhed57176 жыл бұрын
Given Joe West’s typical reactions and ejections I think that he actually had more restraint this time around.
@mikemccourt62255 жыл бұрын
I just like hearing Harry Caray trying to pronounce the word “desist.”
@mr.christopher794 жыл бұрын
lol
@BTsMusicChannel4 жыл бұрын
I know!! HAHA! While watching this vid, I went to my kitchen to get some coffee and was imitating him while getting it, and chuckling to myself (as I love to do since I was in high school)..."If the fanzzszssz don't de-CISZZSZSZt...:" I miss him. He was so much fun. I saw his glasses in the hall of fame a while back -- made me smile.
@buckeyeschmave4 жыл бұрын
Hearing Harry pronounce that, "inception" and "forfeit" in a short span is peak Harry.
@Joseph88keyz3 жыл бұрын
I'm from the Detroit area..but I loved watching Cubs baseball on WGN just to hear Harry.
@wewin036 жыл бұрын
I've met Dawson a couple times hes a pretty easy going dude. I wonder what West did to set him off like that
@scottholder47766 жыл бұрын
Nothing. Dawson was an idiot here.
@mrsain196 жыл бұрын
Call a questionable strike and fling him from the game after he had enough of being cursed out about it lol
@JuanDiaz-mv1lg6 жыл бұрын
West is known for pushing a lot of buttons with his snobbish attitude
@nickajk15 жыл бұрын
@@scottholder4776 you're competitive you get fired up Scott
@nickajk15 жыл бұрын
@@scottholder4776 if you had to play ball with an umpire that was a moron like Joe West at some point you go off to
@barcelonaguayaquil92134 жыл бұрын
Miss these days...baseball is not same anymore... grew up in Queens,N.Y.. Let's go Mets...⚾️⚾️⚾️
@SANATKUMARAA Жыл бұрын
fuck the mets!!
@StormFive6 жыл бұрын
I know it isn't the classiest thing ever but I LOVE how the crowd rises up and roars support for Andre Dawson when he throws the bats out. Right or wrong those are some loyal fans and they showed some love for the hawk!
@TampaJohn7 жыл бұрын
The pitch was probably a ball, but it wasn't an egregious call that deserved a response like that from Andre. Plus as Harry noted, West has been calling that pitch all night long. So if that's the case, it's up to the hitter to adjust. Also it's great to hear Harry again. What a legend.
@flyingdutchman9135 жыл бұрын
Oh shut up you're not even a real fan then. Probably played bench sitter on your little league team as far as you got. Andre Dawson never got mad and you know if a player could throw out an Umpire Joe West probably said some horseshit thing to him that he could get away with that fat ass.
@ultimtdisc5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the players need to alter their performance and start swinging at balls because the umpire is incompetent.
@hbk3145 жыл бұрын
@@ultimtdisc If it missed, it was maybe a little low. It appeared to have the corner. Borderline pitch that a hitter shouldn't be taking with two strikes.
@ultimtdisc5 жыл бұрын
@@hbk314 Was it in the strike zone or not? No, it wasn't. Umpires are supposed to enforce the rules, not make them up.
@hbk3145 жыл бұрын
@@ultimtdisc Don't take borderline pitches with two strikes. It's called protecting the plate. Regardless, there was no reason for the player or fans to react the way that they did.
@jacobrichardson1952 Жыл бұрын
As an old soul person for '91, this ejection is hilarious when Andre doesn't like that strike call you know shit is gonna happen especially the bat throwing out the dugout like a married wife 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@eltravo21125 жыл бұрын
If they’re keeping track of number of bats thrown at once and also multiple bats thrown for distance records, Andre shattered both of them!
@lucasbritton15665 жыл бұрын
I really want t know what west said to Dawson. He let him talk for so long just because of how respected he was among umpires and players alike
@johnnylafriegas6772 жыл бұрын
“Pittsburgh is murdering Atlanta” (7:59) Loved listening to Harry broadcast and I’m a Dodgers fan by the way.
@larchmontmark16 жыл бұрын
Craziest part: When Caray starts saying the scores of other games.
@LinkRocks3 жыл бұрын
Haha his director might have told him to do that to fill time.
@jackson51168 жыл бұрын
I can't get over just how skinny Joe West was!!
@nintendonerdsvideos47277 жыл бұрын
he looks skinny standing next to eric gregg
@coylio33ify7 жыл бұрын
lol, strong.
@storyofcory7 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if weight contributed to Eric Gregg's death back in '06. He HAD been in a "weight reduction program, and he did lose 60 lbs. at one point, but when you tip the scales at around 400 lbs., 60 lbs. is a mere drop in the bucket, no disrespect intended.
@BassmanII7 жыл бұрын
It's exactly what killed John McSherry in 1996 at the Reds-Expos opener in Cincinnati.
@rayjr627 жыл бұрын
And Lee Weyer in 1988 at the age of 51. He was found dead in his hotel room from a massive heart attack in San Francisco.
@peteandrepete5285 жыл бұрын
Dawson was my favorite player on the Expos.
@GrikWorldNomad Жыл бұрын
"The pitch that West has been calling a strike all night long." Doesn't matter how long he's been calling it, still a ball.
@subg88585 жыл бұрын
Love hearing Harry slur words like desist.
@thereisnothingleft93395 жыл бұрын
This was so awesome sitting at home watching this game and listening to Harry Carey!
@jeremyc95934 жыл бұрын
I love it. I used to fall asleep listening to Harry on the radio as well when they were on the west coast. Now, about 30 years later, I'm able to do it again thanks to the magic of the internet and KZbin. There are a ton of old, full games on here.
@danejurus695 жыл бұрын
10:38 Good to see Uncle Joey from Full House using his voice talents to foray into baseball.
@chriswoodsports3 жыл бұрын
Really?? Was that based on the hair style??
@bethbartlett56922 жыл бұрын
*Remember the Day!* Called my son in cause I knew they'd replay it. A major Cubs Men event. Dawson was Awesome, Maddux pitched that day and Sandberg was in his Prime Form. *I LOVE my Cubs!* *GO CUBS - GO!!!!!!!!!*
@scratchking32055 жыл бұрын
Imagine George Bell being the peacekeeper😂😂
@Nevets10732 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this game on WGN. That strike call was not the only obviously bad call made that game. There was a pattern of bad calls by West if I recall, and this one was probably the most egregious call of the game.
@sportsmediaamerica Жыл бұрын
Haha....Andre making me laugh. I lived in Chicago during his run there. Great ballplayer and nice guy, which is why this is so funny.
@cincity0765 жыл бұрын
Carey even says West been calling that a strike all night. So in that regard, Dawson overreacted. Who knows what West may have said though that pissed Dawson off even more. Great clip...thx for the memory!
@thebigcheese6065 жыл бұрын
I was 12 yrs old and this was the first cubs game my grandmother took me to. I thought it was a great first cubs game to attend!!!!
@Jleed9895 жыл бұрын
Ernest Ele she must have been shocked at the language that was flying around
@mrvlsmrv Жыл бұрын
@@Jleed989it's worse at White Sox games.
@cablanchette19 ай бұрын
Been a cubs fan since about 1980..I was 6... Grandma was from Chicago and she got me hooked...I remember this on TV live
@Mark-sj3xb6 жыл бұрын
It seems like whenever there is a controversy involving the Cubs, the Reds are always the opponent.
@davemiller11612 жыл бұрын
You mean the Lou Pinella base-throwing incident? Went extra innings, with Aramis with the walk off HR? Another wild game. 11-10 or 12-11? Something like that?
@whyicare5 жыл бұрын
I always like Andre Dawson who is a classy guy. I met him once waiting for an autograph. I had my two young sons with me at the time. I told my sons how Andre Dawson once was credited with an inside the park (glove) home run against the Montreal Expos. In 1989 Andre Dawson hit a sinking line drive which Dave Martinez dove and caught the ball, but his left shoulder hit the carpet. Dave's Martinez's shoulder was separated. He tried to throw the ball back in play but couldn't. It felt off his throwing hand. Meanwhile Andre Dawson circled the bases. The umpires converged and the crew chief signaled a home-run with his index finger circling. Dick Williams, the Expos manager, sprinted out of the dugout probably 100 yards in 8 sec and argued the call. The umpires didn't change the call. Umpires determined that the ball was indeed caught by the outfielder before the ball hit the ground. Because it was less than two outs, the outfielder had to put the ball back in play to record the out. Since the outfielder wasn't able to put the ball back in play, it was not an out. Dick Williams challenged the call and the game would be played under protest. The Expos rallied in the late innings and won the game; thus, the protest filed by Dick Williams became irrelevant. I mentioned to my sons. My oldest son said, Dad, you're lying. I said you could ask Andre if it was true when you meet him soon. Guess what, my son did ask Andre if he hit a ball and was caught but still counted as a home run. Andre looked confused and wasn't sure what my son was asking. So I quickly chimed in. I said, 1989, Cubs against Expos Dave Martinez. Before I even finished my sentence, Andre already knew what I was about to say. So Andre said, well let's just say, he didn't catch the ball. I fired back, I said Dave Martinez caught your line drive before it hit the ground. By now, Andre was a bit agitated and said well he didn't get the ball back in play. I said ok, Andre, your're right. My son asked Andre if he ever played with Sammy (Sosa). I said yes, he did play with Sammy for one season and Andre was a team player. He came to Chicago Cubs as a free agent and Cubs management really gave Andre a bad deal by signing him for one season for half a mil. At the end of the brief encounter I wished Andre a happy 50th birthday and wished him luck of inducting into the hall of fame. As I recall, Andre was still in good shape having been retired for ten years or so.
@bradmiller91216 жыл бұрын
Steve Stone "It was right at the ankles." while the view from side clearly shows the pitch crossing above Dawson's front knee. Funny thing is if Andre had swung it might well have ended up on Sheffield Ave.
@larchmontmark13 жыл бұрын
Yeah -- on 2nd look, it wasn't low. But it sure was outside enough
@bradmiller91213 жыл бұрын
@@larchmontmark1 When I attended Umpire School John McSherry taught is that there was nothing wrong with calling a ball in inch or two outside a strike. Think about it, if a batter were to swing at it that is exactly where the fat part of the bat would be.
@joshs4594 Жыл бұрын
Joe West always seems to be in the middle of these situations. I remember in 1985 West tossed Mets manager Davey Johnson before the first pitch. Johnson was in the dugout and he ran out to confront West about it. I read both their lips. Johnson said. “Why I’d you throw me out?!” West smirked (as he always does), shrugged and said, “I don’t know, I just felt like it.” It’s too bad he was such a polarizing figure on the field because off the field he was a really a good guy.
@jimklipper60225 жыл бұрын
Joe West is still screwing up in 2019
@jctransportllc.48795 жыл бұрын
Joe was thinner and suckier back in the day, now in day he's gained alot of weight but still sucks!!
@alanhess93065 жыл бұрын
He was right on this call.
@alanhess93065 жыл бұрын
@four eleven forty-four Watch it at the 4:44 mark. The pitch was not low, it was well above the knee and it was right on the outside edge. Apparently you, Harry and Steve don't have a clue when it comes to the dimensions of the strike zone. It is comical that you believe everything the announcers say since they are biased for the home team and have demonstrated very little knowledge about the rules to the game including the definition of the strike zone. Dawson was a great player but he was acting like a spoiled little bitch here.
@larrysproul94245 жыл бұрын
Seems like he will be around forever. Some things never change do they ?
@Abr0225754 жыл бұрын
He's still around???
@raccoon8742 жыл бұрын
*replay comes at **4:42**, I think that means something about the era, I love it*
@rydawg262 жыл бұрын
Dawson paid his fine with a check that said “Donation for the Blind” 😂
@dalethelander37812 жыл бұрын
Imagine if it had been Angel Hernandez.
@robleto228 Жыл бұрын
dawson was a bum
@bradynutzman448810 ай бұрын
@@robleto228And so was Ozzie.
@trustysteeringwheeltray73925 жыл бұрын
I'm no Cubs fan at all (as you can see by my propic), but I love how all the fans cheered every time Dawson threw the bats onto the field
@Jleed9895 жыл бұрын
Big Boy I remember Harry doing the Sox games
@w.p89605 жыл бұрын
West was the sorriest excuse for an umpire. At least he screwed over all teams.
@thehammah84445 жыл бұрын
William Calhoun joe west is still making bad calls
@subg88585 жыл бұрын
That was a strike though
@Jleed9895 жыл бұрын
subg88 it was
@firepower7825 жыл бұрын
Was? He still is!
@frankwhite18955 жыл бұрын
Bob Davidson was the worst back in those days. And still was until he retired a couple years back
@CRAZYWILDMAN496 жыл бұрын
im a sox fan, but i miss harray. he was a good man. i miss these days. love you andre, you are a HALL OF FAMER!!!!!!!!!!!
@ButOneThingIsNeedful7 жыл бұрын
10:29 -- Most controversial thing is that guy's shirt.
@iamkazie94016 жыл бұрын
That was Dan roan from when sports
@gregzaniewski39965 жыл бұрын
Lol
@TomSmith-dt4tj4 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@1975longshot4 жыл бұрын
My eyes are in shock now Like the sweaters of the host of amazing discoveries .
@justafanintexas79136 жыл бұрын
Joe West, once again, under the impression that the fans are there to see him and him, alone. Never met a game he couldn't make a meal of.
@39wopstud6 жыл бұрын
Black, you made some good points. Besides, I’m tired of debating stuff from the 1980’s. I’m struggling with dealing with 2018 honestly.
@savvasstavrou51676 жыл бұрын
I think West Actually gave him plenty of rope to have his say. He's has a much quicker trigger now that's for sure
@LinkRocks3 жыл бұрын
Yeah he did. Nowadays if you look at him wrong he tosses you.
@paulschneller4898 Жыл бұрын
And all these years later, it is still low and outside, just like in 91. Go Cubs!!!
@jumpstreet11976 жыл бұрын
What in the world took the manager so long to go out and protect his player?
@JuanDiaz-mv1lg6 жыл бұрын
He maybe thought Andre should first say his piece and get it out of his system
@rolfbernerske27865 жыл бұрын
Thought the same thing
@davidscanlon12445 жыл бұрын
Angelo Russo this guy took over for Don Zimmer who was fired earlier that year. We all said Zimmer would have been out right away.
@robertnolen40945 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. Crap move by the manager
@mayavenuemisfit814 Жыл бұрын
I'm a Reds fan, but I always loved watching games called by Harry Caray. The things he said, and the way he said them, other than Doc Emrick on hockey games, I can't think of any announcer in any sport who came close to Harry Caray in terms of making the game appealing and fun to a television audience. The dynamics of the situation and everything that went on was exciting enough as it is. Harry telling the story to a television audience made it that much more exciting.
@bryantsteury89106 жыл бұрын
Even back in 1991, Joe West thought everyone came to the park to see him.
@jasondyrkacz82706 жыл бұрын
Bryant Steury People go to games to watch the umps?
@scottholder47766 жыл бұрын
How much rope do you expect an umpire to have with an asshole like Dawson? Legitimately stood there showing him up for over 30 seconds. Then runs at the umpire after he finally gets tossed. Fucking loser.
@angrytom19236 жыл бұрын
Did Dawson say something about your mom? You sure seem to have a hard on over it.
@VioletDeliriums6 жыл бұрын
Scott Holder I think you really don't know what you are talking about. The reason why the fans were throwing stuff on the field was exactly because Dawson was never an asshole They saw him upset and wanted to support him. Fans in Montreal loved him, and so did fans in Chicago. I thought he was the one of the most fun players to watch that I ever saw because when he came up to bat, it just always seemed like there could be a home run, and it was always exciting in clutch moments. He signed a baseball for me when I was little and he was playing for the Montreal Expos. I still have it! Thank you Andre Dawson. :D
@mosesclayclay18056 жыл бұрын
Lol
@kevinjohnson-lf3kj5 ай бұрын
Seen this one 100 times..Never gets old.
@simplygu7 жыл бұрын
Is WGN reporter Dan Roan getting ready to go to Hawaii? LOL
@matthewvaclavik16395 жыл бұрын
simplygu I think he stole that shirt from Dave Coulier.
@crazysteve93905 жыл бұрын
4:43 It's hard to see where the plate is, but assuming the plate is between the batter and the camera, the ball is clearly at his knees when it passes by. Can't tell if it's outside at that angle. But the announcer that said it was at his ankles is blinder than the ump.
@jsommeljay1006 жыл бұрын
george bell always in da master mixx
@navymusician822 Жыл бұрын
RIP Eric Gregg-too bad we can’t trade Joe West in and get Big Eric back
@mhlaw2295 жыл бұрын
Dawson was all class. Nothing would set him off other than BS like this. The pitch was clearly off the plate as well as low
@alanhess93065 жыл бұрын
That was a strike.
@ricobullock46903 жыл бұрын
@@alanhess9306 below his knees and outside the frame made it LOOK like a strike
@alanhess93063 жыл бұрын
@@ricobullock4690 You do know the strike zone extends below the knees, don't you? If it missed outside, it missed by no more than an inch. It wasn't a horrible pitch. With two strikes you need to protect the plate.
@rygi235 жыл бұрын
What I saw was a pitch at, or slightly above, the knees (a strike) and an inch, or an inch and a half, outside (a ball, but barely a ball). Called a strike every damn time these days.
@HipsterDoofus1006 жыл бұрын
How drunk is harry caray here?
@leogetz35706 жыл бұрын
Probably the same as any other day or time!!
@mrsain196 жыл бұрын
He is just tipsy. He still read the scores perfect, with some extra color commentary lol
@bigspliff565 жыл бұрын
Not as drunk as Joe west apparently
@moesyzslak29395 жыл бұрын
Doofus lmao stop it
@J.C... Жыл бұрын
What would Harry think of Wrigley Field today?
@leogetz3570 Жыл бұрын
I got to see quite a few games at Wrigley in the 80's before they put lights in. Got to skip school a couple times for it!! I don't know that I could go to Wrigley today to watch a game. But that's just nostalgia for me. The old Wrigley reminds me of my childhood
@mikemcc20082 жыл бұрын
Who else came here after PMT?
@douglassepic90305 ай бұрын
You have to admit that Joe West was very tolerant of Dawson arguing with him for 45 seconds and pointing to where the pitch was -- without getting tossed.
@bullinmd6 жыл бұрын
Joe West should be BANNED FOR LIFE from ALL LEVELS OF BASEBALL AND UMPIRING!
@danw19513 жыл бұрын
Joe West lives for this stuff. Well, that and a second helping of manicotti.
@JillC25 жыл бұрын
Dawson was just having a tantrum. Dibble, on the other hand, is a bull goose loony.
@johnmoore44 жыл бұрын
JillC2 But he was a hoot as color announcer for the Nationals.
@charlessmith2637 жыл бұрын
I am thinking that 30-40 people who were instigators of the throwing objects on the field - probably 30 at least - were ejected from the game, but I think security guys might have ejected no more than 8-10 from the park.
@michaelglindmyer33366 жыл бұрын
Announcer: that ball was well below the knee , let’s see....” replay shows it had knees, Announcer: *crickets*
@gretzkysyotes5 жыл бұрын
Harry is shit faced.....
@amercedes18925 жыл бұрын
Michael Glindmyer pretty 😁
@mrjasonwhite735 жыл бұрын
@@gretzkysyotes Brilliant deduction, Holmes
@alanhess93065 жыл бұрын
@Bob Spence exaggerate much? That pitch was over the plate. Good strike call by West.
@Rushyesgenesis Жыл бұрын
OMG this was the same game as the Dibble throw!?!?!
@charlessmith2637 жыл бұрын
Nowadays, new MLB rules enhance the penalties for doing anything aggravatingly unruly after being ejected from the umpire. The 1-game suspension would be enhanced to a 1-2 week suspension. And the fine of $1,000 would be now up to $15,000 for the bat throwing thing Dawson did.
@herschie917 жыл бұрын
About $6,200 in 1991 dollars.
@autodidact24997 жыл бұрын
+Charles Smith Yes, and even those suspensions and fines are inadequate.
@carloswilson6716 жыл бұрын
Dibble was no big thing. He was a jerk when he got on the mound. I'd expect Dibble to do something like that. Dibble and two other closers called themselves "the nasty boys". Dibble wore it like a badge.
@repentandknowjesus86746 жыл бұрын
I guarantee no MLB player has ever paid any fine for any reason for doing anything to the umpire. It's all fake.
@MrBubbau8126 жыл бұрын
A player of Andre Dawson's status would be making about 15 million a year. A fine of 15k is chump change.
@902chicnstu5 жыл бұрын
That shirt and that hair on the sports hack at the end though 😶😳🤣
@jorgejohnson4516 жыл бұрын
The side view makes it look close. Strike three. Grab some bench.
@OBESPRING19824 жыл бұрын
The side view shows the pitch was not low but it was not a strike. Breaking ball went around the plate.
@jeremyc95934 жыл бұрын
@@OBESPRING1982 A breaking ball that breaks from the middle out can't go around the plate.
@OBESPRING19824 жыл бұрын
@@jeremyc9593 Did you watch the replay? Do you watch baseball? How many outs per inning? How many innings in a game? I seriously have to ask you that considering your ignorant comment that isn't in line with the footage.
@jeremyc95934 жыл бұрын
@@OBESPRING1982 Do you not understand simple physics?
@OBESPRING19824 жыл бұрын
@@jeremyc9593 Do you not understand the path of a breaking ball from a LH pitcher? Tell me, why do certain pitchers scuff the baseball when they think they can get away with it. Enlighten me, oh, PHD! LOL
@hoochdini6 жыл бұрын
Ironic that George Bell, himself a hothead, is the one trying to hold Dawson back. Also ironic that both were the 1987 MVPs. And ironic too in that Dawson was my favorite player until George Bell hit his stride with the Jays.
@ButchRahman5 жыл бұрын
Dawson waaaay out of line. That wasn't a bad call.
@ultimtdisc5 жыл бұрын
Yes, it was.
@alanhess93065 жыл бұрын
@@ultimtdisc You apparently don't know the strike zone.
@robbie29517 жыл бұрын
Final score of the game was 8-5, not 6-4 as stated in the description.
@coachwilson59677 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of Joe West Haters out there for good reason but this particular incident shouldn't be one of them unless of course you're one of those hopeless cubby fans. Wildest pitch may have been a little outside it definitely was not low as the side angle camera view clearly shows. The thing that is phenomenal is how long Joe West put up with Andres arguing balls and Strikes and in the end of the conversation you can see Joe saying do you want to stay in the game or do you want to go because if you want to stay in the game you got to get back in the dugout. In today's MLB he would have been ejected in 2.5 seconds.
@mikestone76517 жыл бұрын
Typical dumb fuck reaction...get lost, bitch!
@randyburke44447 жыл бұрын
Coach Wilson he’s also had problems with the White Sox when he called pitcher Mark Buerhle for 4 balks in one season all from joe west
@darthjar91176 жыл бұрын
I’m sure there was more to it than just that one pitch. Joe West was, is, and always will be a terrible umpire.
@lilwedge96 жыл бұрын
Coach Wilson you're right, it wasn't low but it was outside by about 5". Fat Joe West needs to retire. I'm a Brewers fan but realize a bad call when I see one. Absolutely terrible. He needed to retire about 10 years ago.
@Benny_Illini6 жыл бұрын
The fat fuck probably said something to Andre that pissed him off.