'He's Just Waiting for His Son to DIE'| Chicago Med

[@liam2386]

telling an 8 year old child with a dead mum they dont understand whay death really means? come on!

[@k4mohelo_]

it's like telling someone who's paralyzed they don't know how it's like to not feel anything 😐

[@finnsnow2495]

A 8 year old who's been experiencing pain and the verge of death for years he doesn't understand what death is.

[@butchdude]

Well a child with a dead relative definitely could still not actually understand death but I have no trouble believing an 8 year old dying from cancer who has gone through several treatments that made him ill and feel completely defeated has an understanding of death and when that torment is just too much to go through anymore, also with the dead Mum.

[@tracim3080]

A dying child who has been going through treatment the majority of their life and have probably seen friends from the hospital die on multiple occasions.

[@trajannvaloris9385]

ya mean while irl atm doctors can give a kid the choice to get mutilated for how they feel for a couple days but not to refuse treatment that makes them un happy and sick

[@ArchangelTyrael]

That nurse is actually worse than the doctor. “If you don’t call I will”. The doctor actually seems to respect what the father wanted.

[@zoereyes8623]

She didnt really, both were so condesending and judge him, he just didnt want to see his son in pain, worst of it all is that she tried to explain death, to a child that has cancer for many years, lost a parent and its not hers! Thats not her call, the kid fully understood his situation, and the legal guardian did what he thought was best.

[@charlottedavid1973]

Correction. What the boy wanted

[@ashxd6903]

@@zoereyes8623 you know, she never experienced the pain. So ofcourse she wont understand death as much as the little boy did. And another fact that the boy is still a kid, i would also think that he didnt understand death as much as i did because many of the other child cancer patients dont understand death even tho they experienced the pain. its like admitting that a baby knows more than you. she changed her mind after hearing what the boy said, she is already much better than other doctors as they dont listen at all

[@annakowalska4323]

Yes! That fucking nurse was the worst,and in the final scene after she put that guy in JAIL, she just said "haha😛 I guess it's all because I'm pregnant 😊😂"

[@mmmm-co4dc]

April Is one of the worst characters on the show honestly

[@artlover5060]

Honestly, I would've been mad as hell if I was the dad. The fact that the father's decision actually helped his son survive, just to be arrested for it is frustrating. If they actually waited a little, the father could've been by his son's side while he was recovering and now he can't get that.

[@TUIfly_simpilot]

Wellcome to the united states.

[@Sooyaa-j4r]

@@TUIfly_simpilot welcome* srry

[@TUIfly_simpilot]

@@Sooyaa-j4r would you please shut up?

[@Sooyaa-j4r]

@@TUIfly_simpilot may you know how to spell first?

[@TUIfly_simpilot]

@@Sooyaa-j4r what the hell is wrong with you?

[@XusernamegoeshereX]

Dr. Manning: "He's a kid, he can't make that choice!" Also Dr. Manning: **literally tries to convince the kid to make a different decision**

[@CA-bw9vw]

It's because she thought the kid did not understand his decision. She had new information and changed her mind accordingly. What's wrong with that?

[@dmf1301]

I think she was giving the kid the lay of the land, not trying to force him to do anything.

[@sidonslife8886]

She was giving him a stronger base

[@shwethapollali3020]

She was a worthless human being anyway, the most irritating character. I am happy she is no longer on Chicago Med.

[@Raamy25]

​@@shwethapollali3020 yikes . she wasn't the best but she did a lot she saved a lot of lives and we ve learned a lot from that character. and everything she did was for her patients. i can't see how is that irritating to you miss karen

[@JabamiLain]

2:37 the father's decision does make sense. I mean, they tried 4 chemos and they all failed. How can they be sure this one is going to work ? There's a difference between hope and denial. What the doctors are doing is denial.

[@suzannekirkwood6392]

That's something I find weird about the whole medical consent thing. In my country at 16 you are able to make your own medical decisions, someone younger can seek contraception or abortion without parents knowing, but if a child under 16 tells a parent they don't want any more treatment the parent will find themselves in court losing the right to make medical decisions and the child will be forced to take treatment.

[@acc7587]

better than death for some people.

[@madnessnvrendz9347]

honestly, it's not fair, the father obviously didn't wanna lose his son but he wasn't gonna make him suffer just so he would live, that would be selfish, and he got arrested for being a considerate father who actually listens to his child, which most parents DON'T actually do. This is not neglect, this is parenting. As a parent you have to make tough decisions and that's exactly what he did.

[@Cloudy_thecloud.0]

I agree. It’s unfair that he got arrested.

[@angelinemaria4936]

mate he's got cancer

[@ShadowSoul92]

@@angelinemaria4936 They told us he has cancer, but they didn't specify what type of cancer. Furthermore, those that affect children are generally more aggressive and spread faster .... (I'm not a doctor but that's what I've heard from real doctors), unfortunately it's a terrible reality for an adult to live, let alone a child.

[@rhysplaysz]

The system is broken, always.

[@ccam4538]

That is how they arrested a lady that ran away with her child cuz she thought her husband was beating the girl. Cuz the always had injuries

[@julesoxana3630]

You can see the love in his eyes and he just didnt want his son to be in pain🥺

[@stavros1216]

This kid is a very good actor, especially for his age

[@spiderman8533]

what's his name

[@sameerahzaman6109]

Gabe is his name

[@bjinx4428]

I actually agree

[@its_justtayana]

wanted to say the same thing

[@lunatny_cs]

A child that has cancer, and has been through hell and back through chemo, and Dr Manning has the audacity to say he doesn't understand?! I think the only person who doesn't understand is Manning, she hasn't been through it, and some ppl would rather die or wait it out than go through tiresome treatment.

[@siobhang6837]

Dr Manning was wrong, it is the kid’s choice and it is the kid’s body, the kid understands what cancer is and what it’s like going through it, he made his choice and it is his decision and his father supports him with his decision because he knows that his son doesn’t want to suffer with cancer anymore

[@kaitlintropper2061]

@Silexpl in Ontario the child can decide if the health care worker judge that the child understands

[@quill8043]

I agree, in my opinion if you haven’t experienced cancer and the treatments, DO NOT try to force that person to keep going through pain and suffering just so you can feel heroic. I don’t like dr.manning because she constantly thinks she’s right, and she doesn’t even admit to her wrong decisions until there’s solid proof and most of the time she does even apologise just gets all pissy😭

[@kaitlintropper2061]

@@quill8043 I’m in nursing school and I do learned that the patient has a right to decide.

[@rdgloveshouse]

I thought so but then he said "I want to see what comes next" which means he doesn't understand that there won't be a "next"

[@BrookeHall2005]

So if a baby has cancer and can’t talk they can’t do chemo bc they can’t make a decision? The parents make their choices till their officially either teens or adults so either 13 or 18

[@calu20801]

I just don’t understand, not causing your child more pain and respecting his wishes is a crime, but making your child suffer so much just so that you could keep him alive or creating a child with the sole purpose of making him donate organs hence suffering isn’t.

[@supervegito2277]

Not alot of places support Quallity of life over Quantity of life sadly. This isnt really all that different, morally speaking, from Assisted Suicide, something thats also illegal in most countries...

[@Claire-sx2hl]

At least the dad understands why he was arrested and not freak out and blame it on Dr Manning

[@jinhongwang4871]

hhhhhhhh. NooB

[@liam2386]

wonder how understanding he would be when he finds out dr manning and april were standing around lauhhing and forgot all about him literally minutes later

[@mmmtastyalidzie2435]

he had every right to blame it on her

[@kauze_]

@@mmmtastyalidzie2435 Not really. He withheld medication and treatment from his child, and whatever the reasons may have been, he understands that it is a crime.

[@kauze_]

@@mmmtastyalidzie2435 Not really. He withheld medication and treatment from his child, and whatever the reasons may have been, he understands that it is a crime.

[@charliwilde]

Dr Manning is so condesending, self rightous and arrogant. Assuming a cancer paitent who has been sick for years doesnt know what death means because they are a child, immediately verbally attacking a parent and accusing them of withholding medication without asking questions (and doing so within the child's hearing) and acting like only people who parent like her or subscribe to her belief system are worthy of respect. Ugh.

[@adelecerniauskaite7046]

I agree

[@jaimeduncan6167]

I will not say that, she was open minded. That is far better than most Mds

[@baristaz8834]

Yh she's really annoying. As soon as there is a patient who has a kid or a baby she acts like she raised 10 kids in 5 life times and knows it all, and as soon as no one agrees with her she gets emotional and starts acting irrational to i really don't like her.

[@SegularRpork]

To be fair, a lot of children cannot fully grasp the idea of death, so if anything, she was trying to help the kid, which she did try to. The problem was she assumed she was right, and the dad was wrong.

[@charliwilde]

@@SegularRpork A lot of children, sure. But not a cancer paitent who has been sick for several years and is steadily getting worse, and whose mother died when they were a baby. To ask them if they understand that death isnt like a video game where you can reload is patronising and dismissive, given how long he had been ill and his family circumstances. One of the best ways to build a wall between you and a child is to treat them like they dont understand, or be condesending- they really resent it and will start dismissing you if the treatment continues. And yeah, she always assumes she's right which is a major failing in medicine, especially in an ER. Thankfully she isnt a real doctor!

[@timestamp7732]

I feel for this little guy, I don’t know what it’s like to have cancer but I do have chronic pain. I’ve been in pain since I was so young. You contemplate life and death when you’re in so much pain for so long. Even at a young age. He definitely knows what he wants and it should definitely be honoured.

[@hanadive]

I always hate her when she gets all maternal and guilt tripping the parents like bruh i get your a parent yourself but your the doctor here you gotts be higher than that.

[@sarahtobore2832]

You hate her for being a human being? But then people complain that doctors are too above it all and cold? Pick a lane.

[@Andengradspolynomium]

There is a difference between being compassionate and being unprofessional. She is just unprofessional!

[@hannahp.fletcher9969]

I hate how dr manning cannot see that by forcing a child to go through chemotherapy that isnt even working is very traumatic for the child and parent. How she simply neglects how the child feels and instead believes what SHE THINKS HE FEELS, regardless of what hes actually experiencing. She's not the one going through it, she cannot force the child into chemo. Life is cruel sometimes, maybe the child wont survive, as heartbreaking as that is, she cannot legally (at least where i'm from) force the family to go through with chemo if they've clearly talked it through and decided themselves. "Wouldn't you want to keep fighting as hard as you can for that ONE chance?!" .... Sweetie ever heard of Quality of Life over Quantity?! That is condescending to assume the child doesnt know the concept of life and death as they are in the process of a life-threatening and progressive disease.

[@bottle3124]

How isn’t it working? They wanted to try a different medicine

[@bottle3124]

Also manning refused to call the cbs

[@MissAlii432]

That actress is incredible. I have to remember not to hate her, she portrays self absorbed so well

[@reginahay4998]

April was worse then doctor manning in this situation. She came to her senses before it was too late, but April put her in a awful position. She is a nurse and had no right to override a doctor

[@Ahmad67475]

I love how they are adding the season and episode in the title

[@jinhongwang4871]

NooB

[@chickennuggielord3656]

Same it’s very handy in case I want to watch that episode

[@zoeknap9777]

SO many posts of clips on fb and everyones like “wHaT MOVie is ThIs?” After 10 comments saying chicago med over and over

[@constantia738]

Lmao

[@maddisonjames9495]

It’s in the description if that helps!

[@potatopatooti]

I swear this Dr is the worst in the whole show. Self righteous, dramatic, and cares more about her personal morals than any actual person. I hope we're not supposed to like her.

[@sarahtobore2832]

Weirdo

[@phoenixxam5812]

Ik this is from one year ago but i literally agree with you

[@QuandaleDingle-c4f]

​@@phoenixxam5812 a year later and I agree to you.

[@leahfaith9113]

Sometimes i feel like doctor manning (no clue about the spelling) her character isn’t fit for a doctor. while she is good at her work, she lets her emotions take control of her actions too many times in the course of the show.

[@CarlosHuiskens]

She's fit to be a doctor in the ficitional world of Chicago Med. You should know that these shows increase the overal emotional drama to an unrealistic point.

[@Divya-ht5in]

2:26 As a childhood cancer survivor, when you are facing life and death situation almost every day you DEFINITELY understand the concept of life and death.... As a child understood more of what life and death was than maybe a 30 yr old.... Why ?? Because i was the once facing life and death ... That 30yr old did not !!! And now i am actually 30 yrs old and the experience and the understanding of life and death , i still carry with me...

[@hyde7102]

They almost tore a whole family apart because they let their emotions get the better of them. And to think that they are laughing about it afterwards? Honestly, the writing is great to show the shitty behaviours of some of these doctors. It enrages me that they didn't respect the father and the child's choices. It pisses me off that they got child protective services involved as well, they only called because they weren't getting their way with the patient.

[@dmf1301]

Well, they do have legal obligations to follow the law. They don’t get to pick and choose which laws to follow. What sucks is that the law says this father is inadequate, so what potentially happens to the kid? They dump him in a group home and force him to undergo the chemo without any support - the staff at the group home sure don’t have the resources to devote time to one kid! Or if he got placed in foster care the foster parents would obviously give some form of individual support, but the chances of anyone taking on a dying kid like that are very slim! So he dies all alone whilst the father is in jail for having the nerve to care about his son! That’s how it would play out - although the kid’s cancer improving because dad withheld medication puts a different spin on things. He’ll still go to a group home but he might not die.

[@marvolom787]

Loving dad who just didn't want to prolong his kid's suffering got arrested and two b.... people are giggling.

[@teresadownes2422]

When your child is put into care and you try to get your child back Your threatened Your sued Your arrested and sentenced You get framed for things that you didn't do Your harassed on a daily basis

[@teresadownes2422]

The only time they hand you your child back is when your child turns 18

[@maganoiitula9552]

Did they make Dr Manning unlikable on purpose?

[@liam2386]

@@RYCH3 then she shouldnt be allowed to treat children lol

[@maganoiitula9552]

@@liam2386 Right?

[@MissGroovyWitch]

Yes

[@Hoodrattt]

Am i the only one who just could pass out because of how serene that dad's voice is

[@jamsaidemelo1367]

Know it all, judgmental lady. I know they are placing her in a position to be liked, but she always gets on my nerves. So self righteous, acting like being a doctor and a mother allows her to decide how others feels.

[@katieminns9778]

Doctor Manning instantly accepted that she was wrong but April REPEATEDLY chooses life over suffering. She’s against abortion even in the best interests of the mother. I can’t stand her

[@chimmyswifeu]

Dr manning should not invalidate the kid's pain. Pain is subjective. 🥺 patients understand that doctors wanna save lives but sometimes pain itself is really too much to handle. 😢

[@ShantieAnge]

It was probably hard for the dad to hear that his son has givin up😢 but I am proud of him that he respects his wishes

[@BlastFromThePastTheGoodOldDays]

It is soo easy to judge what the 'right' and 'wrong' thing to do from an outside perspective. But unless you are living with this situation, it is hard to say how you will react. It is easy to judge the father for not forcing the child to take the medication which is a double edge sword, because it is essentially poisoning the boy to try and make him better. But to live knowing you are forcing your child through pain and suffering with little result, while your child is begging you to stop and let their pain end. it must be hard. Also if the kid didn't want to take the oral pills, how was the father going to force him? prize open his jaws and force the pill down his throat?

[@jinhongwang4871]

NooB NooB NooB

[@natashathompson1590]

Was the kids father released

[@finnsnow2495]

I mean she's just a doctor she's not suppose to be respectful and unbias right?

[@karanhdream]

Love is about letting go, not hold on at all cost. That father and his son were so wise and loving... Truly loving.

[@vicethane]

I never liked Manning honestly, she only sees what she wants to see and acts irrationally the very moment children are involved. Edit: Goddammit April, I hate that she didn't even wait for Radiology results before she pulled this nonsense my god.

[@orianavisozky2195]

Ikr, she always thinks she's right and wouldn't consider thinking about the other side of the story.

[@renubhuju2667]

Maning's character needs to be developed properly Thats not how a doctor responds

[@sala-hp7dn]

IRL, no matter who you are, you would have been arrested. Chemo is the medicine to help to improve the cancer. It would be the right thing to try to do anything to save that child's life no matter the circumstances. So for this situation, though i did not like the decision, it was the best thing tk do.

[@olgak4446]

@@sala-hp7dn but there have been cases where child patient was allowed to choose whether or not continue the treatment. It’s few and far between but it does happen

[@Mo_T27_SMT]

I truly wouldn't mind if Dr Manning and April weren't in the show any longer

[@amandasnider2644]

I knew what death was from the age of 6 when my uncle died. Kids can absolutely understand what it is

[@ihavenocluewhatsappening4233]

I understand the dad. He wasn’t doing it against his son, he was trying to do the best for his son.

[@k4mohelo_]

yeah it's unfair but the kid has made his decision. you can't say "8 years isn't enough" when those 8 years have been nothing but pain and disappointment of not getting better ppl that are justifying Manning's/April's actions y'all weird asf and are invalidating the kids reaction:l

[@so_frailejon]

I seriously hate April. She's just so stubborn and she's always trying to do whatever she thinks, doesn't matter what problems that may cause

[@NemuriNezumi94]

'Tell him to keep on fighting' Says the worker in a messed system in which most people can't afford, and even rich people can become poor if they end up with something as bad as cancer etc

[@LeeshMa]

I’m a firm believer in not treating cancer that kills you anyway. My dad tried everything in the book to prolong his life while having liver cancer. And it only made him more miserable. It’s not worth it ultimately

[@imogenhansen9672]

My mum has had leukemia but she did not stop fighting and im really proud of her

[@zinzolin14]

The dad has a really nice voice

[@biancab8832]

I hate it when doctors say that kids don't understand things! Usually they don't, but when you've been sick for so long the pain, suffering, fear make you grow up quicker and understand things better. Being closer to death makes you understand it. You start acting like an adult even if you don't want to because you start worrying like one. Belive me, I speak from experience.

[@dobltroblegames5409]

4:15 the sentence this kid said was the wisest thing I’ve ever heard

[@LE76ABN]

the son didnt want the kemo and he had a tumour in his brain not taking the kemo helped the tumour

[@buffya8012]

*chemo and he didn’t have a brain tumor he had non-Hodgkins lymphoma which is a cancer of the lymph glands/organs

[@awakentiger31]

Me - don’t cry Gabe - I’ve had my time Me - gets tears

[@attyart4785]

This is something, that should be a childs decision, not parents, not the doctors... whether you want to live or not is not somebodyelse's decision... it's not like vaccination, that is actually a necessity to ensure the child can survive until adulthood... but if somebody is really sick and in pains, they should have a choice

[@dangotv6563]

I can understand the kid and the father,Dr Manning just needs to mind her business. Every normal doctor would have lost their licence looooongggg ago

[@RYCH3]

She has done this before. She forced anti-biotics into a 2-year-old against The Parent's will. She should have lost her license forever for invading privacy and medical abuse.

[@leonpetrichiutto1152]

I'm sick of Dr. Manning. Very unprofessional as a doctor.

[@MrFrosty5026]

So glad I can go watch full thing on Netflix and not spend 20 minutes searching for the next part :)

[@mihaidanielnecula4437]

In my contry isn't =(

[@peppasavage5623]

Where do u live?

[@aussiemac8556]

Where do you live?

[@lindalojkaskova1497]

@@mihaidanielnecula4437 mine too

[@amberbrooks958]

In germany you can

[@aronderocchi]

5:13 Wow strong meaning behind it, but I guess if you fight that mutch make sense youre gonna be out of will to do anything else to stop the pain.

[@haleyh6921]

the fact that he was just smiling cause his son was gonna be okay

[@SimsinWonderland]

That’s a good dad

[@dragon_toad]

Can't comprehend life or death? Uh...eight year olds can understand what death means. Tell them their pet dog has been hit by a car, they're going to cry, not go "what does that mean?".

[@LucyQ-ew6zp]

Yes, of course, but I don't know if a kid can fully understand what death is. If they fully understood it, why would parents tell...I don't know, a 5-year-old whose greatgrandmother died "She is in Heaven", "She is with your greatgrandad now" and things like that and not straight out that "She died"? And 8-year-olds can't fully understand what dying means and what happens after it either.

[@malu8841]

This woman is so overstepping, I get it that his son is not capable of making such decision, but it's SO unethical of her part to insist on care when he just wants to help his son live the best rest of life he gets. He's a confused and scared adult, and her job is to inform and support, ONLY. Doctors can NEVER tell a patient, much less a CHILD that they HAVE TO fight their cancer. This fills me with hate for her character Edit: I justo got to the part that he got arrested. WHY??? This is basic right to refuse treatment. It doesn't make sense. Why did this sweet man get arrested??

[@justaboutthat3692]

Dr Mannings is very ignorant. Why is it that he cannot choose not to take the medications because he's a child? People tend to think, kids don't know how to make decisions on their own. Smh.

[@chideraokoye3434]

his father was ready to fight to stay by his side, but he switched immediately he heard he would get better, the happiness must have been something else

[@alessaross3559]

By 8 years olds a child does understand those concepts, unless they're mentally disabled or just haven't been taught. 6 years + is the average, and some know sooner or later. The concept that the kid doesn't understand is ridiculous and ignorant. Once she spoke to the kid, Dr. Manning should realize she was wrong and that the child very clearly understood.

[@SimsinWonderland]

That’s what I was thinking, it’s not like he’s 3. Even if he didn’t the dad makes the decision on his behalf in the end and he DOES know enough to know how far to take his child’s feelings into consideration

[@saphireaxe7738]

In that other episode where a mother gets pregnant solely to use the baby as a donor for her 8 year old daughter with leukemia, Dr Manning literally encourages the daughter to go against what her parents are doing for her but over here the 8 year old boy's brain is too "underdeveloped" to understand the concepts of life and death? And in another episode Dr Halstead gets tired of Manning constantly disregarding his suggestions and opinions and always doing any procedure that is suitable in her opinion; he literally asks her as to why she keeps on taking control of such situations, and she literally ignores the question😂😂 And the same trend is also seen between the nurse and Dr Choi in future episodes 😂 It seems that in this universe maternal instinct is always more effective than pure fact😂

[@claudialind8961]

NGL I don’t blame Manning as much as I blame April. April made the final call and told her she would call if Manning didn’t. Manning wanted to hold off, and ended up fighting for the dad in the end.

[@rustyhowe3907]

Agreed, Manning was on her usual moral high-horse whereas April was just back stabbing considering they hadn't even gotten results in yet. Realistically that would severely hammer any kind of prosecution on the dad out of existence and instead put at least April in court for gross negligence. Manning would've gone under long ago but here she was overstepping her medical oath by giving emotional responses.

[@leahzurbrigg5741]

April had no right. That man knows his son better then anyone and it was not a case of abuse. She should’ve called Dr Charles in to consult instead of calling dcfs

[@DiamondAviator4]

No kidding.

[@UchihaSasuke02]

I felt physically angry at the end of this clip, the doctor and nurse laughing off calling CPS on a father whole by all accounts did the right thing and taking him away from his son when he needs him by his side the most was disgusting. and the pair of them should be ashamed and sued by the father for defamation of character as he now has a permanent mark on his record with CPS for NOTHING !!!. It's not your child, CPS is only there for when a parent is abusing or harming a child out of malice not for respecting the child's wishes. As an actual survivor of severe childhood abuse and never seeing CPS involved seeing this disgusts me

[@zainebhammouda5529]

The amount of times these doctors have ignored their patients wishes.. is unbelievable and infuriating They are tooo freaking emotional

[@anastasiav6]

I’m so happy that I have Chicago med on Netflix where I live!! I’m going to watch everything

[@Pozzaa90]

I love how this series always makes a joke out of body autonomy...

[@off2neptune130]

Don't you just love how, even though Chicago med is part of a trilogy, it doesn't have any connection with the other two Chicago's, unless it's a crossover? :)

[@Thearrowstrikes]

I’m on the fathers side with this one actually. I personally don’t believe in choosing whether we live or die, but at the same time why would you knowingly put yourself through awful suffering when it may not even be helpful in the end, and if the person begs you to stop repeatedly then you’ve got to at least take that into consideration. Otherwise it makes you selfish because you’re putting their quality of life after your own wishes of having them there even though they are going through so much. And don’t want to. It doesn’t matter if he’s a child. I think people would only fully understand the implications and horror if they have been through something like that themselves, otherwise they can just spout opinions that don’t even make sense. Including Dr Manning in this clip. I can only imagine the horrible horrible pain it must’ve caused the father, just thinking about something like that happening with my loved ones and how hard it would be for me to just give up and how much I would want to carry on even if they didn’t want to. But a strong person would listen to their loved ones even if it killed them. Which of course it would. Not literally, but inside.

[@polypapa6619]

Wise dad. Even wiser little boy

[@Divya-ht5in]

I don't remember what the cases name was but In Canada there was a huge case regarding a native American family take their daughter out of chemotherapy and make her survive through natural native American methods... The parents got a lot of Backlash and a case against them etc ... And i remember Dr.Abla who was my oncologist when i was younger... Was the same doctor of of that native American girl ..... And Dr. Abla actually came out and said that girl would have Lasted maybe 1-2 yrs with the chemotherapy but 2 yrs would be full of pain .... Whereas, when the parents took her off chemotherapy she only survived 9 months but a much mord painless 9 months she could spend in her own freedom rather than being confined in 4 walls of hospital and suffering in pain just to last a maybe a few yrs ... It's quality of quantity... At that point her parents wanted her to live whatever life she has left with a quality live and rather than extending the quantity of years she lives only to decrease the quality of her life....

[@rustyhowe3907]

It's amazing how context shows everything, her parents really just wanted a last hurrah for their little girl to die in peace and without pain. I can see article headlines though mangling that to make a *very* different story.

[@sarahwi8226]

This show is just the best! Keep it up👏😘

[@NessieNice]

Even if a kid with cancer doesn't yet understand life and death, they sure understand the pain going on

[@mdm934]

My sister had a 4 stage cancer at the beginning of COVID pandemic. Travel pan was in place, no inter-state travel was restricted and the only treatment can be done was locally. It was horrible. we were scared to the max. sometime I wanted to give up but we kept moving. we tried to keep her as positive as we can. We didn't visit anybody during her treatment and we lost grandma without seeing her for more than a year. Thankfully she is cancer free. What am trying to say no matter how painful the experience is there is always a light at the end of the tunnel

[@jeffpage1000]

But by the end of the day, it's the person's decision whether keep on fighting or to put an end to their suffering. Everyone has their own way when dealing with pain

[@צביהשבט]

So glad to hear she's well!

[@blackdragon51862]

The dad is not wrong. This kid doesn't want to suffer anymore. There are times when cancers resurface again after treatment. The patient has to go through hell twice. If the dad truly wanted his son dead he wouldn't rush him to the hospital.

[@jozefalkhoury1606]

Honestly, I would've been mad as hell if l was the dad

[@OnwabileZaula-vz2rd]

Its funny how Dr Manning always gets upset when parents dont listen to their kids. Now that a parent actually wants the child to decide, she criticizes him.

[@thomasplouffe326]

“everyone has their time to live, I’ve had mine” buddy, your only 8 years old. That’s not enough time little guy, your just a little boy your time isn’t up yet

[@ink3539]

this is so sad because in our eyes his life had only just started - but he was suffering so much.

[@bubbleblow7461]

You or anyone else doesn't get to decide that, he does. If you have lived through 8 years of excruciating pain, 8 years is enough.

[@moonluna464]

When you're constantly in pain, you understand why some people decide this. I have my euthanasia papers ready if needed.

[@milicadjordjevic4498]

@@bubbleblow7461 you're enabling quitters, cowards, suicide killers. This life you live only once. You fall down, you get up. Its especially disturbing and disgusting you're saying these things about a little boy.

[@bubbleblow7461]

@@milicadjordjevic4498 Oh shut up, that's easy to say when you never had to face real problems. Go live on in your privileged life while the real people with real problems talk what life is actually like.

[@ram.4152]

Sometimes .... I forget that everyone in this show are actors and that it is not a real hospital

[@Mububban23]

Whilst being fully aware that some decisions cannot be made by young children, one thing that has constantly surprised me at every stage of development, is just how surprisingly capable kids can be if you actually allow them some control over things. Age appropriate of course. So to tell a young kid with a dead mom and who's been through the medical wringer, that he doesn't understand life and death and consequences - that's one I may be tempted to let the kid choose too, if my family was in that situation 😢

[@xxbexx_lynnexx]

How can she talk to that incredibly wise and emotionally intelligent child and think that they don't understand the concept of death.

[@haleyh6921]

the one time doctor manning was reasonable and april DID WHAT

[@sameerahzaman6109]

At least the boy understand that everyone has a certain amount of time to live

[@Alinasinging]

I have Manning’s character. I literally stoped watching this show because of her. I have so much respect for the father 😢

[@maramackenzie-mann]

The idea that an eight year old is incapable of understanding death is just more of the same bullshit. Children are not idiots, sure they don't often have the context of experience but I would have expected her to try and explain this to a five year old but an eight year old, especially a cancer patient of so many years, would be terrifyingly intimate with the idea of death and has his own opinions on what he wants. Opinions his father understood.

[@SoupyBowl]

I'm so grateful that it's on Netflix now

[@Ytreecv]

whaaaat? it is? :o

[@its_padziu621]

It is?

[@aphrodite2753]

It is?

[@mikaelcyr3942]

Bruh you better not be trolling

[@Jenny-eo5oq]

No it is y’all I just checked

[@thomasplouffe1363]

Poor little guy.....only 8 and he dosen’t want to fight anymore

[@mshinektunes9362]

It honestly ticks me off that some adults do think like this as if children are dumb and unable to understand things especially at 8 but children mature at different rates and especially for those suffering through chronic illness the children understand more then what adults think they do

[@sonalijootun1712]

Yaya is such a talented actress

[@Erina88888]

I’m glad this is fictional because it’s so wrong to impose a medical decision even though the child already decided on another one. Unless it’s clear someone else manipulated the child into dying, everyone should follow their wishes.

[@Mortimer555]

Respect for the kid and the dad

[@rdgloveshouse]

I would sue the nurse for prematurely having him arrested lol

[@LadyCheshire95]

So parents can refuse all treatment and thats their decision. While one refuses a treatment and he's arrested? How does that make sense

[@Basil_spokes]

Doctor manning is my all time fav ngl

[@veronikajanotova1282]

I hate how children's decisions are being downplayed. I understand that the brain is not fully developed and everything but the bottom line is the doctor treats him and send him home and that it. The kid is the one who has to go through all the pain! What the kid is going through is not stomach ache from eating too much candy, it is suffering!

[@sxmplyyhannah5890]

Love you guys! ♥️

[@rustyhowe3907]

Gotta love how they use the excuse of being pregnant to avoid accountability instead of being professionals and then laughing about it after they've arrested a good father before even knowing the medical results.

[@Addwater4444]

Even if he did think when you die you come back, like in a video game, what business is it of hers!? everyone sees death their own way, if he's not afraid of death, if he's found his own way of dealing with it, good on him!

[@teklaeluwa2572]

No because April just irritates me She’s emotional about everything which just gets to me, if she had taken the time to reason the dad’s decision how wouldn’t have gotten arrested Also kids understand a lot more then they’re given credit for.

[@kenyanbee753]

Manning trying to manipulate that child was low Fucking April

[@chocofudge4638]

that nurse though😡 moral lesson was, just.don't speak too soon. the father wasn't a bad person.he chose to respect his child's descision and it turned out to be the right one. but no, the doctor spoke this and that.then that nurse reported asap. WOW

[@jadesarai6634]

Listen to your body! It knows itself best!

[@gheata_playz874]

I love as soon as he said it the son started spazzing out

[@renubhuju2667]

Maning is so irritating and invasive and too emotional Does not understand that the person in front can evaluate the situation