Wizardry 8 Review Extreme™ Roleplaying™ by SsethTzeentach | First Chicago Reacts

[@Pink.andahalf]

Seth played most of the old games he reviews when they came out. He'll reference that pretty regularly in his videos.

[@alexschmitt2980]

"How is Seth finding these games?" Easy. The newer games he reviews you learn about by following indie dev blogs. The older ones are games that a lot of people who played computer games in the late 90s and early 2000s would just remember. Seth's secret isn't some sort of underground information network. It's just being a videogame geek in his 30s.

[@SergioLeRoux]

This is correct. Every game Seth has reviewed, I have played myself when it came out and/or is actually pretty popular in the indie scene. And THIS game specifically was reviewed by Sseth around the time it was given away for free on some of the platforms and everyone was downloading and playing it.

[@louispiccoli1852]

Sseth is also on a private tracker which helps with obscure games.

[@Ash-fm6ym]

@@louispiccoli1852 which one GET ME IN

[@Czarisyn]

I'm a gamer in my 40s and I concur

[@rinslittlesheepling1652]

We need Zach and Michael reaction to Sseth's Cultivation Simulator video. 9:50 "How Sseth finds these games?" Well, some people grew up with them , or inside communities that knew about them. I, for once, played majority of older games Sseth covered in my childhood.

[@southanime]

Also I Found people discussing them in the Chinese frog breeding forums

[@ariavachier-lagravech.6910]

I found them on Korean basket weaving forum though.

[@sethgaming2002]

True I support this comment

[@wadewilson6294]

Back when games were about fun, and not about graphics and how much money you can squeeze out of your fans.

[@atomic747]

Unreal literally was using it's graphics as a selling point back in 99

[@wadewilson6294]

@@atomic747 @Pantsalonis But back then gameplay took precedence over graphics, even if Unreal did it, it used it as a gimmick for advertising, plus the gameplay was good. I'm not saying graphics aren't important, just that gameplay shouldn't be sacrificed for the sake of graphics.

[@michaelvanhouten4498]

or treating said fans like absolute trash when you don't get your way.

[@VarvasNukka]

Back when Game development was in the hands of enthusiasts instead of investors.

[@Shiroi0moi]

Small teams of nerds and weirdos instead of bloat comprising of marketers and narrative designers who are there for a paycheck and will stage a walkout if your company dares not to hop into another social justice bandwagon.

[@Psycorde]

"What is he googling" - trust me, you don't want to know Neither do I

[@akumuryuu]

In most cases, it's not about "finding" those games. Those games were extremely popular over 15 years ago. I've played more than half of what he covered. Wizardry 8 is a part of a trilogy, and the worst part, Wizardry 6-7-8. So he finds those games by being old enough to play them when they were still hype.

[@Harry94074]

Loved how the IQ and Jew jokes were ignored entirely lol

[@EternalVirgin]

More like they recognized what it is but not want to cause trouble by responding or showing obvious reaction(s) to it.

[@EdmundKempersDartboard]

Sseth is a masochist. His favorite games are the ones that make most of us lose our minds and break our keyboards in a fit of rage.

[@zigmus00A]

"How is he finding these games? What is he googling?" It's a well known fact that Sseth's favorite genre of game is "Cannibalism."

[@jacobchada4673]

They need to watch Mandaloregaming's limbo of the lost, and mystery of the druids videos.

[@WolfHreda]

Yes!

[@VarvasNukka]

I'd say his Factorio review would be a good starting point with it being a bit smaller.

[@jacobchada4673]

@@VarvasNukka I think his more humorous reviews are more accessible, the videos they react to often have a more comedic tilt so I was trying to stick with that kind of video.

[@VarvasNukka]

@@jacobchada4673 Fair point. A fair lot of Mandy's videos built upon the former entries so some jokes can be missed just by jumping in on the newer ones, especially in the 40k ones.

[@ariavachier-lagravech.6910]

"What forum is he on" 4chan, he definitely frequent 4chan because only those people obsessed enough to find those kind of games

[@pirateray]

he plays most of the games 4chan likes, he uses the vernacular, I would bet hard cash on the fact that he's spent a lot of time posting on a Nubian Woodworking forum in his time

[@ariavachier-lagravech.6910]

>nubian woodworking forum Shhh shhh shhh dont use those words yet hide your power level, they aren't ready yet.

[@1wayroad935]

The whole thing sounds like a D&D campaign where the GM lost some of his notes and had to make things up along the way

[@Khorne-bd4tc]

The one video I’ve been waiting for out of all Seth’s videos. It’s a great game, bought it as soon as I finished watching his video. Never regretted that decision Started with characters based on a old dnd group I played with having a psionic, fighter, rogue, cleric, a priest, and a second fighter. Seeing this world was cool but I do have to agree starting out sucked cause I didn’t know certain info. However after 30min it got better controlling it. Still playing on a second play through trying what some consider impossible builds and proving them wrong I If you ever have questions don’t be afraid to ask, I genuinely love this game

[@Psycorde]

Kudos for the commitment

[@jimmyrustle1407]

"What forums is he on?" 4chan's /v/ board

[@Shiroi0moi]

only good for cute and funny discussions tbh

[@koolunit]

Or...1d4chans message boards?

[@SergioLeRoux]

Sir Tech also did the Jagged Alliance series, which also had a crapton of voice acting for a huge roster of hireable mercenaries (not even main characters). The face animations are virtually identical to this game, probably same actors too.

[@Kammereer]

> How does Sseth finds these games? A lot of the games Sseth covers are oldschool classics. Wizardry was huge in the 90s, and is still huge today (in Japan). The newest Wizardry game came out something like three years ago and is Japanese-only.

[@JWar-]

"You can be anything you want to be..." as he cycles between male and female. :)

[@rockstar6goalkeeper]

Most games Seth reviews are games that everyone that played game in the early 00's knows about. It's a big part of his success formula; the nostalgia trip

[@shadoeboi212]

this Game was released about 6 months Before Morrowind

[@James_Wisniewski]

You guys should react to Sseth's review of Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines next.

[@kangaroo4024]

I've never been able to find a replacement for wizardry 7 and 8. And you could take your party from Wizardry 7 and import it into 8 and keep going with it. Subscribed on this video.

[@moonlitaria1413]

Should have em react to Ahoy’s Iconic Arms series or Nuclear Fruit

[@Christian_Bagger]

Old voice actors were the best. Really immersive, even on low budget. No soul today, it’s more like catchy.

[@scrambledeggs7275]

I have one more recommendation if you like older games, Mandalore Gaming's System Shock 2 review is pretty good as well. The game also has some good voice acting and music

[@normanred9212]

Games like Wizardry 8, Wizards & Warriors (2000), Might and Magic 3,4 & 5, and many more deserve and need remasering

[@DomR1997]

Watching this brings me back to playing star ocean and popping open the psp disc drive to avoid encounters in the world map XD

[@EmperorOfLols]

If we are going to mention MandaloreGaming on the SSeth video, you may as well watch his review of Sacrifice (3rd Person RTS Hybrid of the 2000) if you enjoy branching stories with good voice acting like Tim Curry, Jennifer Hale (FemShep), Paul Eding (Aldaris from Starcraft), and Tony Jay (Judge Frollo from Hunchback of NotreDame and The Elder God from Legacy of Kain). Or if you want a horror review, there is also Darkwood if you enjoy survival horror where everything looks like a painting in a Polish forest + open world and crafting elements.

[@bobster7824]

Would love if Zach and Michael reacted to all the Chivalry 2 trailers and teasers

[@danujus77]

These guys are like "wow they had the wheel back in 2001?"

[@soylentgreenb]

The Wizardy series was a *very* popular series, along with ultima. Especially in the 80's and early 90's. By Wizardy 8 it had mostly been overshadowed by more immersive games and it was not considered bad, but kind of a throwback; (it was pretty nostalgic even then!). I would call Ultima underworld the first immersive game; you play you, not a party, in 3D, from first person perspective, there's simulation elements that lead to stealth gameplay, diplomacy. There's swimming, jumping, elevation difference (this is around the time of wolfenstein 3D!), bridges, a map you can take notes on, sloped floors, sloped walls, multiple ways to solve problems. It's a little bit like if Deus Ex had existed in 1992 and for the 386. It's *bizzarely* ahead of its time and led to kind of a revolution in game design. After this you had a bunch of games use first person immersive simulations. The elder scrolls (Daggerfall mainly, the first wasn't very good), Half-life, System shock and thief (same developer though, so maybe not that surprising). RPGs went mainly from playing a party to playing *you* the player. In the mid 90's the traditional first person "3D" fixed perspective RPG where you control a party just died. Immensely popular point and click games (like monkey island and Grim fandango) died. There was a lot of shooters, RTS' and racing games (vehicle based games were a quick way to make something in 3D; you didn't need to do animations really, which is still the hard part) and attempts to make big, open immersive 3D worlds in RPG games (many of which were delayed, over budget and awful series ending games, like Ultima IX; this was just very hard). A party based first person RPG in 2001 was a throwback; this was a year before Morrowind; a year after Deus ex. It was not uncommon for these games to have weird plots; especially in the 80's. A personal space shuttle in a medieval style fantasy world? Why not. Wizardy 7 felt right at home in 1992. Wizardry 8 felt like 10 year old gameplay in 2001, because it pretty much was.

[@retroseal2782]

Mikeburnfire campfire stories when?

[@acrab6527]

Seths computer is 87 years old. So these are the games he can get to run.

[@kurosakii89]

yeeeeeeeeees you reacted to this :D

[@alphashocker7458]

Why’d didn’t you watch all the credits till the end? Those voice lines are amazing. And you literally missed one of the video’s best parts :(

[@luckyblah9166]

could you react to seeths Godhand review?

[@richardcleveland6091]

I remember playing Wizardry 8 when it first came out, when I was around 10. I had no idea what was going on or how to make a party, and I just kept wandering around the first level, getting killed by fleas. Needless to say, it got marginally better when I was older and came back to it. There were so many great RPGs around this time.

[@epimetheaus1214]

I've played Wizardy 8 on and off over the years, I actually go back to it every 12 months or so if I had to guess. It was pretty impressive at the time. It's too bad they never really made a decent sequel after that. If you're looking for something more recent that doesn't require you to try and get a 20 year old game working on your PC, pick up Legend Of Grimrock 1 & 2. Nowhere near as deep, but easier to get into for newbies.

[@thinklikeageek97]

You guys should really check out MandaloreGaming's channel. His Factorio video is a good starting off point and imo better than Sseth's.

[@charliebaker1427]

If there was any anyone who can find pbscure games its a guy with a masters in immunology who did research to correct medical textbooks

[@Toddalotapodamus]

The party members you create in W8 feel less canned than most fully fleshed out characters in current AAA games.

[@Jackalopods]

I need these two reacting to Emperor Lemon's video about wrestling. The name is "there will NEVER EVER be another show like Monday Night Raw".

[@BEOWULF_VON_KRIEGER]

Can we appreciate Seth for putting Ken ashcorp in a game haha

[@falkenway829]

Zack & Michael should react to sseth's god hand video pls

[@YeezeyBreezey]

Here's a suggestion, LISA by Nitrorad. Enjoyed the vid and can't wait to see what else you guys react too! :D

[@redinthesky1]

Wizardry 8 is a great game. Its all about setting up a party thats good at dominating the many, many, many creatures you'll run in to. The challenge is great, the variety of just about everything is extremely good, and the plot is pretty batshit. There's an equally good(In different ways) Wizardry game for PS2 called Tales of the Forsaken Lands, too.

[@dexorne9753]

id really like to see these guys react to the vampire masquerade review by Sseth

[@Romar-io]

Most are pretty popular and well known games for those who like those types of games

[@algis-kun8777]

I love how these guys go with the idea that PC gaming is a modern thing... by the time Halo came out on the Xbox(2001).... PC gaming already went through Half-life Duke3d, Quake 3 arena and Unreal tournament....

[@ariavachier-lagravech.6910]

I hereby recommend Womble Bullshitery videos to Michael and Zach. Since they are such a bros to each others I am sure they would appreciate camaraderies and fuck up of ZFs.

[@leadbones]

These are games all of us old school PC gamers know. I did play this when it came out. I found it to be buggy and obtuse. Have played it since, but not thoroughly. 6 and 7 are my favorite Might and Magic games.

[@WraxTV]

Wizardry ain't THAT obscure. I played one of em on the NES back in the day, and it was surprisingly very popular in Japan.

[@joecrazy9896]

I recomend checking out "We Read Gotham High So You Don't Have To (ft. EFAP)" by JLongBone

[@bushie09]

Do Count Dankula' absolute mad lads series

[@knrdash]

We need Kelsey on this game, too.

[@arsmariastarlight3567]

Sseth's Synthetik review plz (specifically for kit and Kira)

[@yominashi2379]

Bloodborne review max0r would be a fun watch

[@scrambledeggs7275]

Oh hell yeah

[@novanoir8309]

The God Hand review by sseth when?

[@009DarkStar]

I hope you two react to SCP Overlord. Its a nice live action mini film

[@Sherudons]

Old games were great because they had to have something compelling to go along with the 3 pixels... now days we have more watchamacallits than story.

[@DamienRoyan]

Sseeeeeeeeeeth

[@vjexmixv]

you should watch "the funniest Minecraft video ever" by tommyinnit

[@charlie11boy]

Can zack and micheal react to oversimplified russian revolution part 1 and 2

[@NecroBanana]

Is there a link between race and I-

[@Sakattack2023]

When I booted this up I said out loud, "damn that's a lot of soy emanating off these two" and almost immediately after "i prefer tofu" oof.

[@delvonjones1898]

VanossGaming Gmod reaction Please

[@MW-cx3sb]

Man none of ya'll like that dude on the left in any of these videos lol

[@TrickyJebus]

guys. LEARN TO USE THE PAUSE BUTTON FFS.

[@vitalitydoesstuff3603]

Hi