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[@Chickanic]

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[@TXCherokee]

@@Chickanic I ordered the pressure washer pump conditioner from your Amazon page. Used my power washer today to clean off concrete patio

[@scottweathersby6659]

What is the chain difference in a cutting and ripping chain

[@TeaTephiTrumpet777]

You’re not making that clear- you didn’t count overhead, cutting time, prep of the chain time. Add in that and maybe your 5-15% which fine and much smarter to offer a higher quality product and have whatever size people need.

[@9876543213379]

The only thing I don't like about your videos is the wedding ring...great channel.

[@TXCherokee]

@ why does her wedding bother you so much. Get a life man

[@stevecobb7844]

I believe it was Oregon who set up a tent to help hurricane Helene victims. They were repairing saws, sharpening chains all for free. That was a great service. Support their business if you can.

[@bobbygregory1007]

It should have been ALL the chain saw Companys helping out.

[@markadkins9290]

That's who you want to support!

[@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power]

I hope they didn't put a big fat logo on their tent while they were helping people.

[@Skidderoperator]

Husky sent pallets of free saws.

[@thisismagacountry1318]

​@@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power Okay, 🤡 It's okay to promote a business when you're doing something for free.

[@falfas55bgas]

When I got my first chainsaw in about 2000, I did not know how to sharpen chains. I tried to do it with a dremel, but I often ended up buying a new chain. I didn't use it that often so it was not that big a deal. In 2013 I bought a saw mill so I bought a Stihl 661, Well at first I struggled because I still couldn't sharpen worth a darn. I'd try a hand file, and my cut would curve off to the side so I bought a few chains. I then bought a chainsaw mill and a Sthl 090 saw and I got an electric sharpener from Granberg which did work but was cumbersome and took time. After a lot of online discussion on the forestryforum, I was advised to buy a Stihl 2n1 file holder. That was a game changer. From then on I could sharpen my chain, on the saw, in 5 minutes and it cut like a new chain or better. From then on I sharpened my chain until there wasn't enough tooth left. My chains now last a long time. I flip my bar every so often, and I've bought one or two new bars over time. But I now get the full life out of my chains and that saves me a ton of money and time and frustration.

[@tymz-r-achangin]

Our household genuine appreciates your upfront and honest character. Down-to-earth businesses is where we aim to take our money, and its more and more difficult to find those types of people running those types of businesses ... at least where we live

[@johnb2802]

The vast amount of knowledge you have is amazing. I just love the fact you're willing to share it with everyone. Thank you.

[@snort455]

Thanks for the video. When I had my tree business I wanted to support my local shop. I didnt have time to fix saws if I was out working. I just drop my stuff off and pick up asap instead of having another job at night. They took care of me and I gave them a lot of business.

[@patriotstanding6292]

I have a great respect for folks like you who are honest about what you do and really try to help people save money. Happy Thanksgiving!

[@mrscuba1693]

I was up in the air for 20 years over buying by the roll and cutting my own chain I decided against it. I had a 511 AX Oregon bench sharpener and could make a chain last a very long time. I had my firewood proccessor for 13 years and that had the 404 pitch chain I think that was 080 gauge chain 1 summer I processored 45 tri-axle loads of firewood at 16 inches on 1 chain I get 25 foot pole wood with about 80 logs per truck so thats 1440 cuts per load x 45 = 64800 cuts per chain so I would just buy chains from someone like you as my local shop is owned by a women and like you she is a very good mechanic. What I am pointing out is with care in sharpening you can make a chain last a very long time. have a great thanksgiving

[@kenbrown2808]

if I burned through a chain a day, I'd consider cutting my own. but I wear out a chain every 5 years or so. so I support my local saw shop. they have to make a living, too.

[@w8stral]

Fixed location, wood not on ground is the VAST minority of chain buyers. Vast majority are rocking their chains and why they are going through chains left and right.

[@TXCherokee]

You will be proud of me. Rebuilt Zama carb on Echo SRM225 diaphragm needle valve and fuel screen

[@tundranomad]

That's awesome!

[@heavymechanic2]

I need to do mine as well because when you first start it you can tell the diaphragm is a little stiff. The SRM Echo is 5-6 years old and still running on factory parts, and any MTD (More Trouble Daily) would already be in a dumpster.

[@TXCherokee]

@@heavymechanic2 I got a echo rebuild kit from eBay. Hardest part was getting spring under needle valve toggle Put a tiny amount of Vaseline on bottom of spring to hold in place

[@DNGJustSnakes]

Ive used oregon and stihl chains for nearly 40 years...always prefer the stihl as they seem to be a bit harder tooth, stretch less, oil the bar better and stay sharper longer but the oregon do pretty good also. Of course the stihl cost more

[@wg4405]

Yep I 100% agree with you I like Stihl yellow link better than the green link .

[@JHruby]

If you've got commercial guys who are buying 8-10 chains every few weeks, no amount of savings is going to change them. They're only interested in convenience. Which is fine, time is money and not every savings is worth the time.

[@PhilipNation-xm5lh]

I’m finding the same thing in the HVAC industry. Customers can buy entire systems online for about the same as what I can get them from a distributor. It’s hard to make money when everyone wants a skinny deal. Everything is being driven to online vendors.

[@Standing_horse]

How do they get around not having an hvac license?

[@PhilipNation-xm5lh]

@ I don’t know the exact loophole but I think it has to do with a homeowners right to service their own property. The EPA restricts sale of refrigerant so I don’t know how they are getting by with selling fully charged units.

[@Rorschach1024]

​@PhilipNation-xm5lh they restrict the sale of BULK refrigerant, but the systems are designed to not need to be charged, since they are pre-charged. So no risk of venting refrigerant.

[@tradesman63]

Yes, just like buying a window unit at the box store.

[@Standing_horse]

@@Rorschach1024 You're talking about the equipment they put in mobile homes, it's junk.

[@HolzMichel]

buy stihl chain, it's only a few bucks more than oregon per roll. lasts more than twice as long, holds an edge almost twice as long as long as you keep it out of the dirt, and best of all: it doesn't stretch like a rubber band and you end up having to take a driver out halfway thru the life of the chain.... and stihl chain isn't made in china

[@matthewbeaver5026]

I looked into this once before. And it is considerable savings. Though its gonna take buying 3 100' rolls before you pay off all the tools you need to finish the production of each chain.

[@kansasgardener5844]

I think its great your trying to save people money. I'm just a homeowner that has 1 saw and uses it a few times a year. I was buying stihl chains from Amazon but then ran across a chain from china for less than half the price, so I decided to try it. The chain out of the box was sharper than the stihl and didn't dull as fast either. Just thought I would share this with someone who might need a saw a few times a year and would like to save some money. The chain is a Kakei.

[@JamesCouch777]

I just bought a Chinese Stihl clone and fully expected to have to immediately replace the chain. To my surprise it stretched less than the more expensive chains and holds an edge just as good. I was so impressed with the saw I bought another one even though I have 4 Stihls and a Husqvarna.

[@nate-408]

Yes I'm not commercial but I can make loops for about 60% of the retail price. It's worth it for me to buy rolls and make my own. Even buying rolls at $400 from my local dealer I'm saving money. That's for 3/8 full skip chisel stihl, Oregon is a bit cheaper. If you're buying a couple 16 inch loops a year it's not really worth the money, but when you are buying chain for bars over 25 inches and buying many a year its definitely worth the investment.

[@Kent-pb2jl]

A 20" Oregon chain is $12 each in a 3 pack. At $400/roll thats $16 per chain. You would have to get a roll for UNDER $300 (and ignore the master links) to save even a dollar over the whole roll.

[@nate-408]

@Kent-pb2jl nice. Like I said i am buying chains for 25 inch bars or bigger. The oregon chain for a stihl 362 with a 25 inch bar is 28 bucks. I can buy oregon chain on rolls quite a bit cheaper than stihl. My local shop sells stihl so that was the price I referenced. I will be putting oregon nano on my small saws so that's a completely different level. Like I said when you buy chain for bars 25 and up they are more expensive than your typical homeowner stuff you can get. If it's a better price for you to buy loops go for it. It's not for some of us.

[@johnmartin2079]

Chick you've always been there for your customers. Merry Christmas

[@tomblanar2592]

I'm a big fan of saving money so thank you for your tips. There's no doubt that there's a savings associated with buying chain in bulk but you should include labor, tooling, and waste in the calculation. The most likely beneficiary of DIY chain is the professional, most likely with a crew. If the crew is making chains and installing them they are probably getting paid and not cutting trees while doing it. It might still be a savings, just not as much as initially thought. Thanks for the black Friday tips!

[@kjay5056]

Doesn't take long to do. Just do it myself at the shop and give to my crew...use them for what you hired them to do. Making your own chains is paying yourself.

[@tomblanar2592]

@@kjay5056 I'm not discounting the benefits of making your own chains, only pointing out that there are other costs to factor in when evaluating the true savings. If you're paying yourself the value of your time needs to be added.

[@johnhelbig7110]

@@kjay5056You are correct but could you also use some time to seek out and bid new jobs so the crew can keep working efficiently. I had people working for me also and a certain amount of my time was spent keeping the work flow efficient, maintaining customer relations, purchasing and managing the business’s inputs, and seeking new business. Over a span of about 33 years, I routinely worked 5-1/2 ten hour shifts per week to keep the business going.

[@davidbrown312]

Most of the time we leave the shop at sunrise and get back by sunset. We would take 10 chains for each saw. Never sharpened them while working. Change out a chain, gas, oil and go. If there was a saw problem or chains needed sharpened, they get dropped and picked later. If the saws, chipper, grinder isnt running the business isnt making money. The big stuff i serviced on Saturday, That's why you have a shop!!! BECAUSE WE NEED YOU!!!!! THANK YOU!!! 👍🏻💪🤝

[@TheMickeymental]

After counting your links mark the correct one with a paint pen.

[@QuicKurtZX14R]

I always used a Sharpie when I worked at a shop making chains too

[@graemewhite5029]

White acrylic pen for me !

[@Chrisgpop]

Great advice. A good chain, with a good sharpener is well worth it.

[@Ballroomblitz255]

You can tell higher volume commercial users how easy it is to save money by making your own chains and i bet that the vast majority will still not wish to go down that path, welcome to the new world where people would rather just spend money and not worry about adding any time to do additional tasks on their list. Cheers.

[@mikewatson4644]

They would rather pay someone else to do it than to take a chance that one of their people screw up and someone is injured

[@Urbicide]

It's a business expense.

[@tsl7881]

Its a business expense to pass on to the customer. Like government contract work where they lease everything and the extra expense is no problem. You or i lease something more than a week; you might as well buy it.

[@engineeredstrength4102]

You can "pay yourself" $40/hr to cut your own chains, or you can bill the customer $100/hr+ for doing a job. If the guy is as busy as he wants to be it makes the most sense to maximize your time on the job and outsource everything that cost fewer $/hr than what you're able to charge.

[@electricboatal]

That’s good advice about the chains. I had chains for multiple sizes of saws for our tree service. Keeping a sharp chain makes the work much faster so we always did. Sometimes it is easier to run the file across to get through the job, but usually I would change the chain and get back to work. I had every size chain on the roll and I did use them sometimes. We have a local dealer here that would sell Stihl chains two for one every October and we would really stock up. Usually by summer I would have to spend some time on the sharpening machine and get them all back into good condition. After our local dealer started the October sale I never made another chain. When I quit the tree business I gave all of my inventory to a young arborist who was just starting up. He definitely fell into a tub full butter because I gave him everything except my sharpening machine. Best Regards Al Hartley

[@jerrygeorgopolis8015]

Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family ! Continued success and all the best !

[@Kenny-km8rc]

I just go to my brother in law’s shop. He was a logger all of his life and his three sons have carried on. Made their own chains for years.

[@PhreakDarkSoul]

5:46 Just for information: E. g. the Makita DUC355 (Cordless Chain Saw; 18V x 2 (36V)) uses also this 0.043″ chain.

[@darrenpickens7147]

I work at a stihl dealership. This past year, all stihl saws that came standard with .325 pitch/ .063 gauge chain are now being sold with .325 pitch/.050 gauge chain.

[@richardbarber4444]

Benefit from my experience, even if B. disapproves~ I have had success using carb and throttle body cleaner in the gas tank of my chain saws and snowblower. The snow blower in particular took several minutes of running on quick start before the fuel jet was fully clean but it now runs better than ever. Using neat engine oil or automatic transmission fluid in gas tank at season end helps for new season starts. Any dissents feel free to speak and explain R. B.

[@kubotajordan9502]

Thank you so much for your videos !!! Seams like the chains in the boxes are to long your have to use up half of your adjustment or more to get them to proper the tension. No shops will take out links anymore . Because of liability issues . I used to shorten chains when I was in high school cutting fire wood. The shop that I used sold me the block & links it was easy to do didn't have the rivet spinner I just peened them over. Shops now wont sell you the links I go to Amazon to get my parts. I'v bought several of the tools you use thank you again for what you do for all of us . Have a wonderful Thanks giving .

[@johnhelbig7110]

Not mentioned but part of the equation is the cost of your labor. Even if you don’t pay yourself anything, the time invested in making chains is taking time away from some other project or task. Plus Oregon has many other numbers of chain that different folks request; for instance, someone wants a full chisel and the next person wants a semi-chisel. Plus the smaller chains have the safety anti-kickback ramps versus the same size chain that does not have the anti-kickback feature. I worked in an equipment dealership also, but didn’t do much volume in chain saws but I did try making a few chains just like Brea demonstrated.

[@Ron-0417]

Great info Bree. I've been making my own chains for over 20 years. The one thing I do, is add a few drops of oil on the links before I flatten the rivet down. Also, you didn't mention that there are 2 different size handles and "grinding head", or what ever they are called. The smaller ones are for 3/8 LP and .325, and the bigger ones for 3/8 and .404. Also, buy a spare tip for the breaker, as, if you are new at it, you just might break one, (wonder how I know) and it's good to have a spare. My last one has lasted over 20 years.

[@purtnearperkins]

When you refer to the grinding head are you talking about the handle on the tool that flattens the rivet?

[@Ron-0417]

@@purtnearperkins Yes

[@Ron-0417]

@@purtnearperkins I am talking about the piece that is inserted into the riveter that is spun by the crank, that flattens the rivet down. They make one for the 1/4, .325 and 3/8 LP, and one for the 3/8 and .404 chains.

[@BJ-lw3vz__Björn_sweden]

Thanks 4 the tip! Huus-kvarna, thats right pronounciation, it means house-mill founded 1620 under Gustaf II Adolf, called The Lion of the North. But even swedes call it husky sometimes.

[@Skidderoperator]

DOOSAN means Mountain of grain.

[@jamesspash5561]

Well you need the splicing tools also. In addition ("to boot," said way up north, means in addition to) most folks are not going to know all the sizes, pitch, gauge, ect. Better off to come to you or another pro for the cost and convenience.

[@wadefowler9105]

All .325 bars that come standard on new Stihl saws or sold as replacements are .325 w/ .050 unless you special order a bar with a different gauge size.Husky uses .325 w/ .058 or .063.

[@stevethompson8171]

What a contrast a VW Beetle and a Vette side by side in the garage!!! What a performance difference!! Years ago I raced gokarts, I would buy the chain and "adjust" to length. I have a small chain breaker that I would push the pin most of the way out, leaving it in the bottom outer link, and then press it back into the top link, a few taps to relieve the compression on the link and I was good to go.

[@fastst1]

Small pop rivet shank is the same hole size on the chain, I have 4 nailed into the wall near the spool hanger, hook the chain on the top and let it hang, mark the link and then break and rivet.

[@blessedthistle1.414]

Carbide chainsaw chain is supposed to last 15-20x longer than standard chain. I don’t know what the cost is, but they make it for firefighter applications and forestry.

[@KPMACHINE1]

I inherited my grampas old husky & his rolls of chain. The saw is way too heavy for this truck driver to use so I’ve bought newer modern saws. This video motivated me to order the linker/delinker tools!

[@TwoFeatherChannel]

it's called Convenience. you pay more for convenience because you can get it faster. just as buying a gallon of milk at a convenient store cost more than a gallon of milk at a supermarket, where you would have to wait in a much longer line for checkout.

[@williammouri1096]

I buy one chain every five years. This was a fantastic, informative video!! This is like telling people to go fill their propane tanks at a shop instead of exchanging tanks. Save you lots of $$$. 😊😊😊

[@thomaspepper2201]

A tip for YOU, Chains saws sold in different location's different STATES REQUIRE CERTAIN CHAINS. The SAFETY chains ""anti kick back"" All saws in NV. have a different sprocket that will ""Only fit"" the safety chains, To accept a skip tooth chisel bit chain, wanted to use on a NV. saw I would have to change the bar and engine sprocket to make it work. Because I live in WA State I'm able to buy the skip tooth ""NOT AVAILABLE IN NV"" SO MY SONS SAW GOT THE SAFETY I'm running a Stile MS 361 WITH DEEP CUT RAKERS, SKIP TOOTH. and only ethenal free premium fuel with Stile oil. One of my better saws. I enjoy your channel, you tell it how it is. Thanks

[@JamesCouch777]

I'm wondering how they plan to enforce those laws. Are the chainsaw chain police roaming around looking for offenders? How do they keep people from ordering what they want online? It's insanity gone wild!

[@thomaspepper2201]

@@JamesCouch777As I said you can't buy the product in your state EVERYTHING NOW HAS STATE APROVAL. OTF KNIVES won't ship in WA. 55 gal barrel stove kits, gun in WA with more then 10 rounds, I do agree it's bullshit. You become a criminal for your want.

[@CrimeVid]

I have tried various chains, but actually found that Oregon chains cut the best out of the box, for what I was doing which was cutting bowl blanks from green, new felled timber with electric saws, so a bit more ripping than most people do . But pre made was fine I was only buying about 2 chains a year

[@Skidderoperator]

@@CrimeVid In my experience OREGON chain stretches more than STIHL. ⬅️➡️

[@alexmatthews2332]

I've cut trees for 10+ years and realized right away if you don't know how to sharpen your own chains you're dead in the water wasting money! I dont buy 20 chains a year, you can get alot of life out of a chain filed properly. Obviously best thing for the saw too.

[@bobrose7900]

Great, except on site any delay would cost you more and there's not always the convenience of bench mounted kit. Keep that in your pocket!

[@blythkd9017]

Good tip, plenty of money to be saved by buying bulk chain and making your own. I would say though, having the proper anvils for breaking is faster than adjusting the adjustable anvil. Also, not sure about the comment on 1/4" chain. I used to break and spin it on occasion with no problems.

[@zodszoo]

I don't use enough chains up myself for rolls of chains. I do have a cheap Harbor Freight sharpener. Works well on all the different chain types and suits my needs nicely.

[@mikewatson4644]

I have an electric saw for quick jobs, a gas saw for bigger jobs and a pole saw. They all use different chains, of course, but the Harbor Freight sharpener works on them all

[@richardparker937]

Years ago I use to take my chains to the sawmill for sharpening . Then I learned how to sharpen chains . I prefer to hand sharpen over using my electric sharpener . The guy at the mill sharpened with a machine then cryovacked the chains after . They did stay sharp a little longer . Now the mill is gone and I kinda retired from fixing stuff

[@philliphall5198]

I buy as much as I can on line but I also buy a lot at local hardware store, only one in town and we need it😮 We buy all can food on line now and can meats I have a friend that cuts me 6 chains a year and sends them to me, big savings plus I order for friends also 😊

[@nedcramdon1306]

Can't you get real food in your area?

[@backcountryboondockers]

Wish they would use harder steel on these chains.

[@Skidderoperator]

Buy carbide chains

[@juliannewman2557]

I love your site, there's usually something new to learn and you deliver the information excellently. I've been making chains from roll for years. One thing that you didn't point out is that the connecting links ( actually all the side plates) are directional. If you look closely, the forward end is slightly deeper than the rear and the rear is noticeably longer. The Oregon links should be fitted with the chain running left to right (the opposite of what you showed) or the chain will have a tight spot as it rounds the nose wheel.

[@stihlnz]

Great advice Chick ... I've been making chains for people for years ..its a pleasure not a chore.

[@ltcajh]

Why does she have to spin the handle while setting rivets?

[@airplanemechanic9513]

@@ltcajh I think its heating up the rivet. I don't know. I would say that its slowly crushing the rivet but I don't see it move at all. I don't know.

[@DavidJones-me7yr]

my father who is 96 now on the first chainsaw in the county here and I believe it was a maul? They had a gear reduction Drive,, meaning they did not turn over as fast and had much more power behind it, even with the size bigger chain than what's normally on a 20 inch bar, he could still pull the rivets out on it if the chain wasn't Sharp or would cut into a hard knot? Back then it was all waste oil for on the bar and chain. He would rivet the chain back together out in the woods? Back then, everything was rivets, so we had a good understanding of the task. Oh to clear up something,, he had a 28 inch bar and I was just comparing it to the 20-inch bar that everybody's familiar with.

[@OnMyWayBack888]

Nice video. Great analysis but most commercial guys will buy so many chains because they do not want to waste time to sharpen them. For the same reason they will not cut their own chains. I use the same chain until it rips or get twisted. I file them until I get to the stop mark. I used the same chain for years

[@martineastburn3679]

A good hint for you. Look at the oil-soaked label's or rubbed and smear. If I need a paint number on a can or like you chain... I take some clear packing tape. I put a layer over the label. Then add another layer of that has an end folded over. If you need it the outside one might be sloppy. Peel back the top one the bottom one is clean, and you can read. replace top on as needed or tape the top back on.

[@jongruen7854]

Full chisel works for softer woods. In hardwood like oak, hickory, hedge. Especially winter time in frozen wood. You will want semi chisel. I never use Oregon chain. Better options.

[@Conservator.]

I noticed that you kept your ring on your finger while doing work. Although it is a safety hazard, I kind of liked that you did. 😊

[@pasisten8145]

Erica in "Married with small engines" keeps fancy ring too. Maybe it is something unique for ladies behind workbench 😂

[@christophermiller8735]

I’ll use Oregon chain win hell freezes. I only use chain that holds an edge. I’m not over running an expensive saw to cut.

[@alanmurray3624]

You can order them from discount chain and bars or get them at home depot.

[@mikekristin7201]

I go to the shop to get chains because I don't have the time to sit down and make chains. Bigger outfits with more people maybe but at the end of a 10 hr day last thing I feel like doing is cutting splicing chain

[@Saw_Squatch]

I'm 6'6 and run a 28" bar on a 70cc+ saw 90% of the time I've been making chains for years now just because you can't hardly ever find 28" loops on the shelf and half the time they want like $45 a piece for them

[@slavkochepasov8134]

Great topic for a lesson, Thanks. Now on your question why not all commercial guys cut chains. Cause they are in wood cutting business and not in chain repair! For them time is $ and it is cheaper to have a geat master like you to take this part for some fee. Not only time, equipment, shop, train the person etc. You are part of business! ;)

[@heavymechanic2]

Nice content. When I was doing an overgrown cleanup, I would buy the Oregon Bar kit but it was a 52 link and my trim saw requires a 53 link, but it will go on if you work with it. Not practical for me to cut chain because I'm not in the saw business, I did get several chains destroyed by stones. I really like Oregon chain but I did use some knock off brands as I was cutting roots and F-ed up plenty of chain. Found a thin pruning blade for a reciprocating saw to be real handy as the blades were super cheap to trash.

[@68gtxman]

Thanks!

[@davidbrennan5]

I order from Bailey's online. They sell house brand chain cheaper already in loops or you can buy rolls..

[@henrybarker1159]

Been doing this for 35 years I use oil on the ends of the rivets when spinning them up

[@shaunbrennan5281]

Cut and joined a thousand chains with a punch and breaker anvil ,comes in the stihl bag. Not quite as easy but a bit of practice and any chain is not a problem.

[@curtanderson8655]

I use skip tooth chain but the thing is you need a bigger saw to run it. I've got a 500i and it does very well. Yes 100 ft roll is the way to go, also we have our own electric automatic sharpener

[@jackdawg4579]

It depends. If you are taking time you could otherwise charge for, out of your day to make chains, it is still probably cheaper to pay someone else to make chains than do it yourself and lose those hours you could be earning money. But if you know you always have a few hours to kill every month because it isn't worth starting another job - definitely!

[@conmanumber1]

A roll allows Independence which is great when in remote areas. Costs is irrelevant.

[@tomedgar4375]

I started buying Stihl chain to run on my Husky chainsaw. Costs more upfront but they last a long time

[@richardcranium5839]

one thing you forgot to mention..--on the master links one edge has a cutout. be sure that goes towards the drivers on both pieces. its there so on spur clutches theres clearance. rim hubs it doesnt matter. had a friend trash his hub on a polock saw because of that. also there are tons of varieties in chains i.e. chisel, chipper, half skip, full skip , etc.

[@brianzachary5618]

I have a 16 inch echo. I bought a pack of 3 chains for $27.06 including tax and delivery on ebay. I think some of the expense is in the packaging so the 3 pack saves money. But I probably use the saw only a couple times a month on average.

[@mikehansen2839]

I've been cutting my own chain for years and you are so right on this issue money can be made. It takes a bit to keep from freezing up your splices. Precut chains are crazy overpriced. This is great information for everyone that cuts wood. Good job.😊

[@firemedicjm911]

I am a homeowner and did this when I moved onto my property, Chains never expire so it is nice to have the tools to cut a chain whenever I need it, Also nice to be able to repair a chain and not have to make a trip to the shop.

[@treeguyable]

34 yrs in business, on my second roll if 100 ' 3/8" chain.Never bought " pre-made loops". I make em last a long time.

[@darrenbodnar6608]

It reminds me of needing a mower years ago. Walmart had one for $100. Didn’t have it. A friend gave me one that just needed a new carb. I’m not any type of mechanic so my friend offered to do it for me if I could buy a carb. I called Briggs and Stratton because that was the brand of mower. The carb was $100. I asked how is it possible if a carb is $100 but I can get the entire mower for the same price. No answer. It’s like I could buy the carb at Walmart for $100 and get everything else for free.

[@chadhenwood6007]

Some people use stihl bars or stihl style bars on there husqvarna so when braking chains it's a good idea to go 1 extra drive link

[@Slane583]

My grandfather always had bulk rolls of saw chain, he never bought a single boxed chain. All of his chain making and sharpening equipment is still in the basement at his house. My younger brother and I have been wanting to go in the basement and get it we just don't have any place to put it yet. My older brother and his wife have been living there for the last couple of years, he doesn't care if we go get it because it's not something he'd use.

[@harrymusgrave2131]

Getting chains cut from a roll was common. They always break on the rivet. Have them fixed. They break at the rivet again. I know. Do them myself.

[@notmyname3883]

What odd timing. I literally just bought a rivet spinner and chain breaker YESTERDAY at an auction. I'm a homeowner who occasionally uses his own saws, but I like buying 'em and fixing 'em up, and it's gonna be very handy to have these to make chain my lengths.

[@travismolitor4987]

As a Canadian, we don't even have black Friday but we have black Friday sales for at least a month. Other than that, thanks for all the great videos!

[@nedcramdon1306]

Yes, it's on every stupid website and in every store. Cheap garbage!

[@EricWillis77]

Yes I just ordered a bar with chain for less than the name brand chain locally 😊

[@blaws6684]

We have a Cutters Choice near here. I can get 3 chains and a bar for the same price as 2 Stihl chains! And they’re every bit as good

[@mrboom4570]

I am amazed how much stuff i can get cheaper on amazon vs stens and i am a stens dealer. As a small ship owner it makes a difference.

[@PD-be7ln]

Where I live you almost have to order parts online. The only small engine repair shop that was any good closed (the owner was 85) and all that’s left are a couple of sketchy guys who are unreliable. We need a chickanic!

[@davidstewart3827]

I used to have a visegrip chain breaker, used a hard metal surface and ball peen hammer to reassemble the chain

[@wg4405]

Well I'm just a home own maintaining all the trees on my property and I have plenty . I like the Stihl yellow link chain . I know my local Mom and Pop mower shop I buy parts from and is a Stihl dealer and they makes chains for me now and then for all my antique chainsaw from a roll of yellow link .

[@richardjones9282]

I buy bulk pre-made from Baileys and the cost isn’t that much more that buying a roll and making them. The few dollars more than bill isn’t worth my time of hassle.

[@jonhare685]

Novice at cutting my own saw chains. This is my first year trying my hand at this, quick question. What are my options with the leftover chain loop ends? Are they scrap or can they be linked to next roll? Or something else. Thank you for your time and making videos to help us to be more educated.

[@christopherhaak9824]

No doubt it's cheaper to make your own loops from bulk. But, the number one cost savings is learning how to sharpen correctly, either by hand or grinder. You can extend the life of your chains 5x by removing what is needed to sharpen them and not more. Of course good cutting techniques also matter so you avoid rocking out the chain and hitting things and so on.

[@arnobertogna4718]

Love this woman’s work - great video, thank you👍🙏

[@dcvariousvids8082]

I gather the chain I use for my Huskys, is becoming increasing hard to get. I’ve got a 545 Mk1 & 550XP Mk2, both fitted with .325” .058”/1.5mm Oregon 21LPX full chisel. You can use the same on the 560 too.

[@brianworley7705]

I guess what I didn't hear was a cost for the rivet punch and the press to form the new rivets. Those each cost some $s. Now, I am a homeowner anyway so I don't use that many chains. But it has crossed my mind to buy a roll and do it myself, but never have pursued it. I guess given the cost, over time it may still be worth it, just not as quick as the commercial customers using many chains each week.

[@kbittorf335]

👍Stihl has a newer .325 narrow kerf chain called 23rs pro that is .050. I don’t know if they’re only offering it on pro model saws? In recent years I have found trying to get parts for almost anything is a chore locally and it is easier to find it online.

[@AmericanRusticWoodworks]

I mark up the chain $7 from wherever I get it from. It takes me no longer than 30 seconds of work to install it. It's more cost effective and more efficient for a business to buy them made. Only because time is money!

[@mpccenturion]

I use a 572. And have thought about grabbing tools for all my saws.

[@osmith-do6ny]

Couldn’t help but chuckle at your pronunciation of Husqvarna and Poulan. That ain’t how we say it here in the south, lol. I’m sure I’m not the only one out here who has taken links out of a chain without the benefit of a breaker or riveter, but it sure looks easier. You do a good job of taking the mystery out of a stinking chainsaw engine.

[@daveschuetrum576]

I have a vice grip chain breaker and spinner tool that works good for out in the woods.

[@mikem1436]

The supply chain puts many small resellers out of business. It used to be, several decades ago, that buying wholesale from an authorized distributor was the least expensive way to buy product. Now, as mentioned, harry the homeowner is able to buy online for about the same price as a reseller going thru the channel. Plus the item(s) arrive at the front door which saves the buyer travel time and expense.

[@jonzimmerman427]

im a commercial tree service. I pay $20 for my 20 inch chains on amazon. A roll of chain that sells for $365 and makes 25 20 inch chains would save me very little. $365....25 chains....thats $14.60 each. But you still have to add in the cost of the links to connect the chains, the tools necessary to make your chains, and the time to put them together. So i might save $4 per chain and it still takes time to put them together. For me, single box chains is the far superior option.

[@airplanemechanic9513]

She said you get the links when you order the chain. That's not an extra expense.

[@christopherlehman4045]

Still takes time to cut and rivet together, also takes practice to get a good spin on the rivet without being too tight a binding. Also buying rolls of Stihl brand chain saves you virtually nothing, I’ve priced it out and if ordered at a Stihl dealer you will save about 25-40 cents per chain. Oregon will save you some though if you run it.