The Burning Truth of Canned Fuel. This HUGE Distributor Doesn't Like Me Exposing It!

[@Chickanic]

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[@kenbrown2808]

it says something that the canned fuel company is showing the videos to their advertising department instead of their quality control department.

[@michael931]

They now have a statement on their website which basically implies that if it doesn't run well in your engine it is because of previous fouling from regular gas. Nice! The marketing person who thought of that nonsense probably got a trip to the Caribbean out of it. Oh I miss Sales where I got to say stuff like that.

[@timothyvotaw7517]

EVER the illusion of the marketing side of literally EVERY industry - shirk, deflect, and, wait for it - LIE!!

[@drizler]

Are you really surprised knowing how these outfits operate. It’s all about SALES, anything and everything😅else be damned. God forbid these outfits improve something if they can simply suppress the or organize a campaign to excuse the issue away!

[@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259]

She said to their distributors?

[@larrybe2900]

@drizler I am not intending to make this all about politics but that is the essense of those in charge right now. Your comment screamed art me to mention something. You have to admit advertising gets us to buy cars that profit the car companies and on and on.

[@tylerspeiv2575]

I work a saw/mower shop in Texas and literally all of my mechanics watch your videos. Thank you for spreading the word on tru fuel. That red shit don’t burn

[@joefudd]

The only things it burns are your wallet and skin!

[@RichardTurlington]

@@joefudd 🤣

[@mpdonn317130]

You’re going to love this one. I found a Stihl MS170 at the dump on the ground near the dumpster. Pulled it a few times to see it wasn’t seized, but wouldn’t start. Took it home. Watched this video and emptied the fuel(light blue). Put in my non-ethanol mix - it fired up on the second pull! Thank you very much! MD

[@ericturner2477]

That's a darn good find.

[@FilosophicalPharmer]

Awesome! 😂👍🏼

[@FilosophicalPharmer]

@@spiritseeker2831 Find a nearby gas station that sells pure gasoline. Don’t use gasoline containing ethanol. Mix your own 2-stroke fuel and don’t rely on any of the premixed stuff from the big box stores. I can’t help to believe it’s got so much stabilizer - to make sure it lasts on the shelf, waiting to be purchased - that the stuff doesn’t burn correctly. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Just my 2 cents…

[@evanstauffer4470]

@@FilosophicalPharmer My problem is that here in a major east coast metropolitan area, there are NO gas stations within a one hour drive [each way] that sell "pure" gasoline. I have tried several web sites which purport to tell me which local stations sell non-ethanol fuel, but when I go to those stations every pump has a sticker that says the fuel contains 10% ethanol, and when I ask about non-ethanol fuel the attendant looks at me like I'm crazy. So my options are limited to [1] mix my own fuel using ethanol-containing gasoline, or [2] buy the canned fuel. Since I typically use less than a gallon per year I've just been buying the canned fuel. It's a pain to mix less than one gallon, however I guess that's what I'm going to have to do from now on. Thanks Chickanic for the education.

[@saywhen1976]

I Want To Be A Trash Pick Up Guy. A friend said people throw the best things away. You could make a living fixing the vacuums people discard bc they can't take a wet dry vac to clean a simple vac hose clog or replace a $12.00 bristle brush!!

[@WilliamGilchrist-dm5cl]

I am a former diesel mechanic and it really upsets me when I have a fuel issue on one of my pieces of off road equipment. You have taught me what I needed to know. I appreciate it.

[@doonhamer252]

former owner of heavy equipment on logging and placer mining .. good fuel, and looking after it .. Filtering is worth hours if not days of mechanic time and lost production.. had bad fuel straight out of the tanker knock us down for days..

[@mariarusso1155]

Hi 👋

[@RuneCarverLLC]

@@doonhamer252 Nothing worse than a dredge that won't start... and you got that damned wetsuit on and trying to pull for an hour 😳😩😩😩 augh! 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

[@jim4448]

I was a diesel mechanic for many years.. After I retired I went to work for a family dairy farm.. As the mechanic. The firm probably had at least thirty or forty different two stroke motors.. Running all kinds of small equipment. One thing the owner did a long time ago... Was to buy aviation gas... He thought it was well worth the money.. Just because of the problems you are describing.. I thought the machines ran better and faster.. Not many less Pull rope issues.. Of course you cannot run alcohol gas in airplane.

[@charlesgilliam7547]

​@@RuneCarverLLClp p .

[@matthewvaillancourt9503]

I was a user of that fuel for years so I decided to do my own test, let's just say I'll be mixing my own fuel now. Thanks for doing these videos 👍

[@michaelhobaugh3302]

I soooo appreciate all of your videos. I am speaking from 31 years as a shop teacher and about a dozen years as a consumer products mechanic at a John Deere dealership on summers, nights, weekends and holidays. Your presentations are always spot-on and well presented. I enjoy them all. Even when you sometimes swim upstream from the big boys you always have all your ducks in a row and speak from real world experiences. You are a natural educator and a great example to young ladies that traditional gender barriers can certainly be crossed.

[@tommclaughlin1041]

"It's light it's pink, it's engineered fuel from the big box store" Now that's the start of a country song if ever I heard one.

[@gomerhondo7249]

Very Tru!

[@WormBurger]

I've been chanting that for the last 20 minutes.

[@Allesschrauber]

We really need a T-shirt with this words. LOL It woul sell great.

[@MJF40]

Poofuel

[@antfarmmining7824]

Isn't fuel stabilizer pink

[@GaryT1952]

You rock Bre! Most informative and enjoyable small engine channel on YT!

[@kawkid]

I've ridden 2 stroke motorcycles since I was a kid. I have always mixed my own fuel. Never even knew they had this stuff in little cans for ridiculous prices. You would think it would be better than pump. Thanks for the videos making people aware and saving them money.

[@davidjohnsonsr1st]

I don’t know why I haven’t seen your videos yet, but I’m glad I found them now.

[@taggerinc2652]

Have you considered sending some samples of fuel from one of the machines that isn't running properly to one of those independent fuel / oil testing centers to see what's in it? it would be nice to know if it's something that's missing, not supposed to be there, external contamination, water absorption, etc. it would also show if the contents and additives that they claim are present are actually there.

[@jefism]

I'd love to assume they are not guessing the issues based on the gas the customer brings in. Oh wait 4:15. I'm guessing people just leave their gas in it until it degrades: gas expires.

[@IamMugs]

@@jefismShe has worked on more of these today than you will in a lifetime. I put a new plug, fuel filter etc etc in my Echo leaf blower that has run perfectly for years. Emptied out the old box-store gas (about 3 months old) and put in new box-store gas. Would barely run. I finally emptied out the overpriced gas, put in REC90 with oil and voila... first pull

[@--_DJ_--]

Sending samples of fuel would show if that specific fuel had an issue, but not the stuff sitting on the shelf waiting to be sold. Sending some sealed, fresh stuff would be better to see what is actually different, if anything.

[@--_DJ_--]

@@jefism She says she checked everything before condemning the fuel on that blower. Doesn't seem like guessing to me.

[@koririetveld4369]

​@@jefismalways could make something that can run on expired gas. Because I think we are gonna need something that can here in the near future.

[@bobkathrynalbin3697]

I injured my rotator cuff just watching this! Great information, thanks!

[@darrellepickering8433]

I've already did that from nigh 60 years of workin' on small engines. Slowly but surely gettin' it back.

[@larryjohns8823]

I usually have the pull handle rip out of my hand (and it feels like I might be missing some fingers in the process)!😮

[@Look_What_I_Did]

@@darrellepickering8433 Surgery is the only recovery.

[@mestep511]

Seemed so easy. Guess it goes in the pickup with yearly leftover 2cycle. I’ve been using in trimmers to stop rotting fuel lines but have noticed a lack of top end cutting especially in brush. I mix Rec90 for boat and chainsaws because I’ve witnessed damage from 87 ethanol. One vacation replacing like new Mercury fuel tanks and lines. Pickup tube leaking and one off, primers rotted inside. Thanks for this.

[@stevenwilkinson8373]

I felt that pain too!! She's a dam machine to be able to pull like that!

[@tjclarke4604]

I'll back you up on this one Bre, 100%. I commented on a previous video of yours too concerning the canned pre-mix. I have been a certified OPE technician for 30 years, and I can't count the number of Stihl units that have come into my shop that won't even start with this crappy fuel in them. Get rid of the pink garbage (or whatever else they might be using in there), replace it with the good stuff and voila, vroom vroom, Bob's your uncle. Spot on! And if the manufacturer of the canned pre-mix doesn't like you criticizing their product, then I believe the onus is on THEM to make a better product!

[@sethwheeler3531]

Lol. 😂 So what is the good stuff?

[@markkaminski2416]

​@@sethwheeler3531I have been a regular user of VP SEF 50/1 and Echo Red Armor 2 cycle oil mixed with Ethanol free fuel and have trouble free performance. I don't profess to be an expert, just my experience. Some of my saws , trimmers and blowers are 30+ yo and still serve me without fail. Best Wishes!

[@darksu6947]

​@@sethwheeler3531Cocaine and waffles! 😁

[@sethwheeler3531]

@@darksu6947 convenient, I usually have that layin around the shop!

[@dalmatianclub9873]

I absolutely love your channel. I frequently am on your channel finding the solution to my husband and I small engine issues. Every single time I have been here watching our solution I have found myself to have watched several of your other videos you have shared regarding a issue we have with something else within our equipment that is completely irrelevant to todays issue. lol. 😆 needless to say your my mentor girl. I love your content, I love your career, and I respect you for being the girl who makes a difference in today’s world. Thank you for everything you share with us, you have helped my husband and I so many times! 💚💚

[@mhomero6117]

Love your vids! Hate two strokes. That said, they do have a purpose and you make it entertaining! Thanks bunches!

[@jimmyowen3977]

I have used that stuff for years on several of my chain saws until they finally burned up I thought. Finally on my newest saw it quit working. I knew that it was not burned up. Then I remembered that you had mentioned on one of your videos about that junk. I went and bought a new 1 gallon gas can and 2 stroke oil and dumped out the other gas and refill it with the mix. Well like you said it started. I still had the other saws so I pulled them out of storage and they still had the old gas in them. I did have to buy a carburetor for one of them but they started. Listen to her. She knows what she is talking about. Thank you for helping us and telling the truth.

[@Chickanic]

That's awesome! Glad I could help and thanks for letting me know!

[@rogerkennedy8849]

Yuo need to rec fuel also

[@tomyot77]

I learned my lesson when Bre had her first video on the expensive premix gas. Took a craftsman weed eater that would not work and stored for several years. I put new plug and I mixed my own gas and been running ever since. Chickanic is the bomb

[@em4703]

Never had issues with Aspen, these fuels have their place, like for storage. Always runs great, always starts easy. My dad had a trimmer with Aspen gas left in it for 4 years. Started on the 4th pull.

[@tomyot77]

@@em4703 I have not used this brand of fuel . I don’t remember seeing this brand for sell in stores in Georgia.

[@dennisyoung4631]

@@tomyot77 it’s mostly in Europe, though I hear it either currently is, or soon will be, sold here. I personally wonder about VP canned stuff for “storage fuel,” as there’s a place a few miles away that has non-alcoholic fuel - both 92 octane, and (twice as expensive!) 110 leaded race fuel. Want storage fuel for an emergency *generator.*

[@shawnbelford3433]

If that isn't definitive proof I don't know what is! Thanks for saving us a lot of frustration, awesome video!

[@marktangney9467]

So what kind of fuel do you use premium or recreational fuel

[@shannonwhitaker9630]

Another fun definitive proof test would be to take an easy starting good running engine that is hitting peak rpms and put the garbage can fuel in it. A reverse example of good fuel vs. canned fuel if you will. This video is 100% spot on. I came to the same exact conclusions with this particular type of canned fuel years ago. Other than for storage purposes it has no purpose to me. Even then it’s too expensive to be economically practical. To be fair old stale 2-cycle mix that is very heavy in oil ratio will produce similar results of hard start, no start and low top rpms.This seems especially true with Stihl engines for whatever reasons. FYI …8 out 10 customers surveyed report low energy and a hard time starting their work day after drinking Coffee at that particular small engine repair shop.

[@robkocol5664]

Why bother with "canned fuel" ??! Just buy E-free gas aka: 'pure gas' without the damaging Ethanol/alcohol content. I'm here in FL and our WAWA stations carry it (Ethanol free gas) frequently promoted as 'Boat Fuel". Why is that? Remember going back to your 5th grade science class were you were (maybe?) taught that "Alcohol has an affinity for water". Translation: Water follows Alcohol and that is why the typical Marinas always offer Alcohol (Ethanol) Free Gas. It's a real problem for boats, since they ride on/near water... Alcohol is also a SOLVENT. It likes to wash away/dilute oil, especially the oil in your Fuel Mix! So, just use Ethanol free fuel with a good fuel mix and your mostly there for the LCO's (Lawn Care Operators). For the more casual user or for Winter set up, you should also add some fuel perservative like Stabil MARINE Grade (most economical and strongest) or Ethanol Shield for your new gas purchase (which no longer contains Ethanol)👍 . Search your area for other Ethanol free sites @ Pure-Gas.org

[@shawnbelford3433]

I've used non ethanol fuel ever since it became available in Kansas in all my lawn equipment and toys. Zero problems!

[@iffykidmn8170]

would having put in fresh Truefuel netted the same results?

[@BarneyBeauregard]

Thanks! Science is repeatable results. You are right on. Store, yes. Then clear out the old stuff. I wonder if then new canned product will then work right.

[@boutrosboutrosboutrosboutros]

I didnt even know that big box stores sold this stuff. I live a bit far from those and always go to the gas station for gas. add 2 stroke oil myself. Thank you for your honest and educational video!

[@movaughn20]

Used canned for years maintaining properties 1 day a week. Never had a problem. Once I started burning though them, switched back to mixing. Never would have guessed it was why backpack blower seemed to run better as it aged... Interesting... Thank you!

[@jackd1582]

You used canned ..running stuff regularly. Maintaining properties 😮$$$$$$$%

[@SOLDOZER]

Another liar claiming he used TruFuel for commercial properties.

[@josephfalcona1857]

Stay the course girl! The truth ALWAYS wins in the end. ❤

[@Chickanic]

Thanks for watching!

[@lynnberg253]

I ALWAYS mix my own using pure gas (no ethanol) with the oil!

[@Chickanic]

That's the BEST way to do it!

[@joeblow5154]

Where do you find pure gas now a days?

[@lynnberg253]

The local farmer’s coop has a dedicated pump. The OnCue quick shop also carries it

[@evictioncarpentry2628]

​@@joeblow5154Premium fuel typically doesn't have ethanol added (at least in Canada anyway) its only 87 and 89 that it's added to. 91 is ethanol free.

[@hackerhonda5529]

​@joeblow5154 you can get pure gas at a marina

[@russwelday]

Thanks!

[@drsaddlebrook]

This is not the first time I have heard this about TruFuel 50:1. Long story short, I went down to the local small engine repair guy because I found an old weed eater that had brittle fuel lines. In conversation with him he said that if I were to attempt to get it running again “do not use TruFuel” if I wanted to succeed in getting it to fire up. So I decided to research it further and came across your UTube videos. Keep up the good work.

[@t-rex558]

Great video to show at their seminars! As the saying goes "Truth hurts!" I mix my own using non ethanol gas and Echo oil mix. Have never had a problem!

[@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259]

I've always mixed my own @ 32:1, regular pump gas. Yeah, it's tough on diaphrams, about 2 years they're stiff as cardboard.

[@krisgreenwood5173]

Trex I do the same thing. Regular gasoline with no ethanol and Echo oil.

[@isaachobbs4206]

Agree 91 no ethanol with red armor, my equipment runs better than anything else

[@karlrovey]

Where is everyone finding ethanol free 89 octane (or higher) gasoline? Every station near me has those with 10% ethanol. The only ethanol free option is 87 octane.

[@isaachobbs4206]

Only Sunoco has it, no where else. I also mix 40:1

[@armusc757]

Chickanic: tells the truth Big box fuel: and we took that personal. Chickanic: hold my beer

[@Chickanic]

Bwahahahhaha!!!

[@kirdot2011]

Chickanic: their fuel doesnt work so lets put MY fuel in it Watchers of this video: what`s YOUR fuel and where to get it?!!? Chicanic: Ill sing you a song maybe then you`ll stop asking questions Ill never give answers to

[@Chickanic]

@@kirdot2011 Regular 89, Echo Power blend Oil and Ethanol Shield. At the end of this video, the suggested next video goes into more detail. Tells you who I am talking about and shows better examples of how it runs in equipment. Also tells everyone what fuel I use.

[@kirdot2011]

@@Chickanic now this is what should have been in the video

[@leehuff2330]

​@@Chickanic You got me onto the Red Armor, and I run it across the board. I use the canned pre-mixed for all my 50:1 engines, and I mix it at 32:1 with 87 octane Sinclair for my ancient Lawn-Boy which now starts on the first pull.

[@scobiesview5137]

Been using chainsaws all my life. Been a Stihl man as well love them. Now I getting older and don't use my saw as often I agree with everything you say. I have started using fuel stabiliser and next I will only buy small quantities of more expensive fuel. I now use your starting technique as well. Its refreshing to come across someone that knows what their talking about.

[@doonhamer252]

Any truth that Stihl, detuned (retarded) the timing on the newer saws and equipement. Friend was also comparing port timing on same model but 2 yrs apart.. differant spark timing and slightly differant port timing ..

[@ArthurGreer-g2d]

Thanks for your honest presentation - it is so disappointing that manufacturers don't want to provide the best products they can - when I have a GOOD PIECE OF EQUIPMENT I tell everybody I know and I will buy it again and I will buy other items they make. I have learned a lot from your videos - please keep up the good work !!!

[@blue03r6]

Ive switched to using canned VP fuel over unleaded pump fuel because the ethanol in ohio is 15%. Before the switch the blower was experiencing a major bog. Now, my blower and trimmer start easy and run great. You wont have a problem running VP fuel. They literally make racing fuel used by major big name race teams from boats, cars, motorcyces and radio controlled nitro engines.

[@williamwallace9620]

Yeah I agree their stuff is actually good. Surprised you haven't checked pure gas for a e-free station near you, that or decided to do remove the ethanol

[@MrAnviljenkins]

@@williamwallace9620 There IS a station near me that sells a non ethyl 90 octane, but the pump uses a shared hose with the E10 grades so just buying 2-3 gallons for my 1972CB750K I wonder what the final E ratio is to pump 2 gallons through the hose that was prefilled probably with E10. I saw a test on youtube where a guy explored this and the "non ethyl" fuel sample did indeed still have some Ethyl. Maybe pumping a gallon into my pickup, then 5 into a 5 gallon gas can would give me a better result for using in the bike and small engines at home ?

[@rutbuster1]

I use the SEF/VP fuel. It's made by VP Racing Fuels. Never have had a problem with it. I used VP race fuel when I raced dirtbikes for years. I have also tried the Truefuel but had issues with it and had to adjust the carb to get it to run right. Never did have to do that with the SEF/VP fuels.

[@dennisyoung4631]

Good to know about the VP canned (for storage) fuel. I was wondering about a long-keeping “just in case” fuel for a small two-stroke generator.

[@gunsandrotors8704]

Vp is great stuff.

[@keen1957]

My shoulder hurts just watching you tug on those machines. 😁

[@rooster3019]

The only "canned gas" I have used is the Husqvarna branded pre-mix that I purchased with new saw. It started OK, but the saw, an auto-tune 572XP ran hot with it. My go to has been pump high octane with Red Armour at 40:1. I store long term with the Husky pre-mix in all 7 of my 2 cycle tools. Thanks for your observations, tips, and experience!

[@lynn4205]

Everything I have that's 2 stroke is 40:1 ratio and 90/92 octane. If long term storage I go with non eth. I tell all my customers and friends to use 40:1 in there boat engine and if it's out of warranty to take off oil injection. Especially a V6 mercury! And the old VRO Evinrude/Johnson. In fact with those engines all one has to do is put enough oil to get 40:1 in the amount fuel left in tank and let it mix thoroughly. Check to see that fuel coming out "quick disconnect has a color to it. Run engine with oil line still connected to engine for a while on flushette which will like double oiling. After running engine say 10 to 15 minutes you are sure of oil mix in fuel tank is in carburetors you can disconnect the oil line from engine and the wires from the oil tank to the engine harness pull both out and remove oil tank. Pour rest of oil back into a container for use later. Watch as oil in oil container get near empty as there is usually sludge in bottom of container. Plug oil connector at engine with a cap and tie rap or worm clamp and you are done. The vro pump now is just a fuel pump. Use PRIEMIUM FUEL AND 40:1 mix from then on ! PRIEMIUM helps in decreasing the chance of " detenation " in an engine especially a two stroke outboard. Last I remember the new VRO pumps were north of 600.00 dollars and warranty was void if you use ethanol fuel ! That's how they got out of lawsuits from the junk vro Pumps. Which is one reason why OMC went under. Nor so much lawsuits but replacing powerheads on blown motors still under warranty.

[@dave1938MNDot]

​@@lynn4205of

[@Joe-wy2bn]

I've got maybe 12 saws and I think the 572xp is my favorite.

[@rooster3019]

Out of my 5, Chick might ban me for this, but my favorite is the EGO electric for the common small jobs. @@Joe-wy2bn

[@pacificdune]

Loved this video. It could not be more obvious. I have gone to using Stihl or Echo pre mix. I sometimes let my tools sit for up to 6 months, I have about 10 of them, and I’m just a homeowner who likes power tools, so I don’t use all of them every day. Have you ever had any problems with these fuels? My favorite now is Moto Mix. It’s expensive, but cheaper than replacing OEM carburetors. I have had no problems since I went to Moto Mix. Curious, what is “your fuel”?

[@dansmith5012]

Like you, I'm also a homeowner who likes power equipment and I do the same as you, I use Motomix in my 2 cycles when storing and sometimes for regular use but most of the time I mix my own for regular use and I never had any problem with my equipment that I've owned for the past 10 years. The only thing about Motomix is that I noticed when using my Stihl ms441 and KM130r that they have a bit more power when I use my own 91 octane gas mix at 50:1. I never got an engine that bogs down like the blower in this video BUT I did use the 4 cycle Trufuel from Home Depot once in my lawnmower and I did have trouble starting it so I never bought another Trufuel can after this and never will. Trufuel is piss in a sealed can.

[@bad05ford]

No problem letting non ethanol fuel mixed with echo oil sit for a year.

[@theone8308]

I'm a master wrench/gold level certified Stihl service tech of 21 years. The last 5 out of six tools in the shop with scored pistons has had the "pink fuel" in them.(And many more in the past).

[@Bellboy40]

😂 I'm glad you got the fuel distributor's attention! All they have to do to get you off their back is to make some fuel that actually burns.

[@jasonmichaels498]

All you have to do is go but gas from the gas station and make your own mix instead of spending $10 a gallon for that crap which I have never bought or used in my life and never will.

[@geraldscott4302]

And that does NOT have ethanol in it.

[@Thumper68]

I don’t want it to burn I want it to explode.

[@wildcoyote34]

@@MFKR696 funny thing is there is not a problem to fix ,, the problem is idiots not knowing they need to adjust their carburetor to compensate for the slower burning higher octane fuel ,,i've been dealing with this problem for a decade ever since canned fuel came out ,,she is trying to convince people there's a problem and passing off partially true unproven information ,,the fact of the matter is , there is nothing wrong with canned fuel ,, just a few things the manufacturer will not tell you ,, #1 is what i already stated ,,it burns different ,, #2 is piece of shit worn out equipment does not like canned fuel ,and manufacturers of canned fuel need to know this

[@tomp538]

First time watching your videos. I believe you solved the problem I've had with my weed wacker for quite a while. It does the same thing as the blower; revs up but then the *RPM* drops off even though the throttle is pulled all the way. Also like your safety work boots!

[@wildcoyote34]

adjust your carburetor ,, if you are using canned fuel it needs the mixture adjusted to compensate for the higher octane slower burning canned fuel

[@donrichter3523]

@wildcoyote34, bullshite! You obviously don’t know anything about octane. Octane has zero effect on air/fuel ratio. Now compared to E10, there’s a slight change, but it’s minimal. Higher octane could allow the timing to be advanced a skosh, but it’s certainly not required. The compression on these engines don’t require high octane, but adding oil does lower octane and fuel that sits loses octane. Given that the big sell on the canned fuel is storage, that’s likely the reason it’s high octane, to allow for an octane drop while the fuel is sitting.

[@wildcoyote34]

@@donrichter3523 i know plenty about octane ,, having been building boosted engines for almost 30 years ,and also repairing small engines ,,, higher octane fuel in a chainsaw causes it to run rich because the fuel burns slower ,,the canned fuel burns slower than gasoline and it causes exactly what was happening with that blower ,,in a 2 stroke you can't change the timing ,, you adjust the fuel slightly ,, turning in the high speed screw effectively changes the AFR slightly to compensate for the fuel ,,i've done it to thousands of 2 stroke engines over the last decade ,,,there's also multiple other benefits to using canned fuel ,, you never have to worry about getting crap out of a dirty fuel can ,,it'll never have water in it either ,,,I got a laugh out of watching her pull and pull and pull on that worn out stihl chainsaw ,, i went out to my shed and picked up my husqvarna 455 rancher ,, primed it , pushed the compression release ,, pulled 2 times it fired and the 3rd pull it was running ,,that saw has not been ran since last october ,, 11 months ,, it would never have started if it had gasoline in it because gasoline turns to varnish ,, synthetic fuel does not

[@ToddKing]

​@@wildcoyote34 "i know plenty about octane" High octane fuel doesn't always burn slower. Some actually burn faster in order to get across a larger diameter piston bore quickly. Please explain how higher octane, slow burning canned fuel causes an engine to run rich? You basically said it twice so I would hope that know how it works. But from where I'm sitting there is the same amount to fuel and air in the engine as there would be as if you were using gasoline. So I don't see how it can be richer. Now if you had said that canned fuel had a stoichiometric ratio of 16 or 17:1 I could see how that could make it rich. But that was not your claim. In fact, you claimed that high octane fuel in general would cause this rich condition. Wouldn't that mean, according to you, that the hundreds of millions of times that people put premium gas in their carbureted cars that didn't call for it, they were running rich? It's odd that I never heard anyone say not to do that because it will make your car run rich and you will get worse MPG. Also the manufacturer is claiming that it is a direct replacement for gas so the stoichiometric ratio would have to be the same or very close to gasoline. I have some Truefuel and it doesn't say anything about needing to adjust the carb on the can. Are you aware of anything on their packaging or website? If there is not and , according to you, this needs to be done to make the equipment run correctly, it's a HUGE oversight. And alot of equipment requires a special screwdriver to adjust the carb. Are you saying that the consumer has to go out and buy a screwdriver so they can use this fuel or any high octane fuel because it burn slower and therefore, richer? I know there is a lot so if it's too much please focus on explaining how fuel burning slower makes the Air Fuel ratio richer. I await you informed reply....

[@arcanewyrm6295]

​​@@ToddKingI couldn't help but notice a couple of points he mentioned that you seem to either be glossing over or simply didn't catch. He specifically used the word *_effectively_* when mentioning AFR. He also mentioned that the synthetic fuel burns slower. If your engine is tuned to run on pump gas, for example, which burns at a particular rate, the engine will (barring other problems) run as intended. Let's say that a given cylinder volume and compression ratio is going to burn one milliliter of fuel per cycle. So your carb is delivering that amount because that's optimal for that engine, given its setup. The same quantity of a fuel that burns _faster_ (alcohol, nitro, etc.) will be completely burnt away sooner than the standard fuel. At peak efficiency, a cylinder should be given as much fuel as it can completely burn in a cycle. If the fuel burns off faster, there is time left in the cycle for more combustion, which won't happen unless the amount of fuel to the cylinder is increased. This, *_EFFECTIVELY_* will cause a lean condition. The remedy for a lean condition is to increase fuel supply to the cylinder. On the same token, a fuel that burns slower may not burn off completely by the end of a cycle. Of course, as the knowledgeable individual you seem to be, you know that exhausting unburnt fuel is a sign of a rich condition - more fuel than the engine can burn. If you have a slower burning fuel in a setup for faster-burning fuel, the same rich condition can easily be achieved. The remedy for a rich condition is to reduce the fuel supply to the cylinder. So, dude isn't wrong. I think you're just missing the point he's trying to make about it. Either that, or (hope not) you're some kind of know-it-all keyboard warrior who's just feeling a bit combative and trying to look superior. I'm gonna err on the side of caution for now and believe you simply misunderstood what he was getting at.

[@ImaOkie]

Careful you don't hurt their feelings ! Great content .

[@michaellabus5907]

I have had that problem with 2 different blowers from stihl with premium gas and still oil. Have had this for several years and not sure why. Old or new fuel doesn’t matter but this pushes me to get a tach to see if it is doing same thing( good reason to buy more tools)😁 I just found your channel couple days ago and work on everything from blowers to my kubota B series tractor. There are things you mentioned that I forgot about in my classes back in high school over 35 years ago

[@lorenray9479]

I had an emergency 1 gallon container emergency fuel. I used it at about 1 year. The container smelled like stale karosene behind my truck seat. In almost empty tank the truck wheezed, sputtered and shuttered for a mile to pump station for a few gallons.The truck barely survived. After a full tank of REAL FUEL it finally recovered. Barrymans b12 helped later on.

[@rodsharpley6956]

Hey Bre. Found a good use for the 2 cans of premix i set aside after watching your vids. Very expensive fire starter at the burn pit. Love your channel. Thanks

[@thomasmoran168]

Please be careful doing that... My cousin caused a gasoline vapor flash explosion trying to start a fire. It was something to see! (That I don't want to see again...)

[@karlrovey]

​@@thomasmoran168Agreed. Gasoline as a fire starter is just asking for trouble.

[@corvettetexan]

I use the pink stuff from the big box stores because it doesn’t have ethanol and I don’t use it frequently enough to avoid stale gas. It doesn’t appear to do any damage if you’re able to fix any issues by switching to oil/gas to fix any problems. It’s mostly a trade off for people like myself.

[@corvettetexan]

@@TheFreedom4you I have used both Tru Fuel and VP. I think Tru Fuel is a bit better as my stuff runs better on it. It's possible that doing a gas/oil mix on my own is better but, as I mentioned, it would go stale since I don't use it all the time.

[@charliebrown6545]

@@corvettetexan You can buy ethanol free gas at a few stations, add stabil to E10, or keep it in a sealed container away from sunlight. I mix my own fuel and I only run through maybe a gallon or two a year. I don't have any problems using pump gas with no stabilizer in a sealed can that sits in my garage.

[@blmartech]

I just buy non ethanol gas for small engines.

[@gunsandrotors8704]

I run tru fuel 50:1 never had an issue with any of my echo products. And run the 4 stroke in my mower,snow blower and gennys no problems. Its the only way to get non ethanol fuel by me. Pricey but no headaches for years.

[@jeffshark4]

Thank you Bree , I have learned a lot.❤ In the past, regular fuel was a nightmare.only good for 30 days Now it's reckfuel or premium. For small engines.had zero problems for about 8 years .

[@staceysmith4971]

I have been watching your videos for awhile now. I appreciate you and your videos. I finally took the plunge and opened my own small engine repair shop in the middle of talladega alabama. I officially opened my doors on 9/11 in memory of the terrorist attack on that date. I am also a veteran of iraqi freedom so it's kinds special for me. You are an inspiration to me. Keep those videos coming please.

[@essenceofdementia]

My neighbor was complaining about how it was hard to start her brush cutter so I handed her a can of my mix and told her the gas was probably bad. She told me it worked great and so I asked her what ratio she was using and she told me she bought it in a can at the store. I told her not to use that crap because it doesn't burn well. I only know this because every time I have used it in my equipment it makes it run like crap. Good to see someone with a voice calling this crap out.

[@kbittorf335]

I have always found canned fuels even on sale to be too expensive. Mix my own. Thank you for honest real world information!👏

[@jakessmallengines]

The most important time is when your machine sits with mixed or regular pump gas . It will destroy a carb fast ..I'm using recreational fuel in all my small engines with great results ...Love your videos

[@lifesucks247]

I buy non ethanol for all my yard equipment but more and more they are making carbs out solid plastic. I got a new Briggs pressure washer somebody gave up on because they left gas in it and there's no fuel shutoff. It was an easy fix. Flushed out the all plastic carb (replacement cost on Amazon is like $10) and retro fit a fuel shut off. Project farm did a video on what ethanol does to aluminum. No ethanol for me.

[@commodoresixfour7478]

Sometimes it's how it was physically stored last. You know those cheap single stage snowblower that always go bad? They are supposed to be hung by the handle or sat face down on the floor. They are engineered to empty the carburetor when sat like this.

[@brucemckenna7035]

This Chick's mix is the fix!

[@kenkos5904]

Mental note, if she offers you a coffee, say no.......

[@lilredford5]

Had the same issue with my Stihl, time savings tip if you pull some rope out you won't have to take your starter cover off. Thank you for everything my father and I are addicted to watching you, God bless!!!

[@ExtremeAwesomeness]

It’s light. It’s pink. It’s engineered canned coffee from the big box stores! Haha! This is what came to mind when you were putting the fuel into a coffee pot. I really enjoy your videos, and I appreciate the truth being told.

[@NormanMorris-n4r]

i remember when i worked in a service station and we would mix our own 25:1 and 50:1 fuel/oil brand in large tanks and decant. with the reduced costs of 2 stroke oil and the ease for people to accurately measure the ratios, it was stopped. the mix was a blue green colour. we also sold fuel cans in different colours that made it easy to distinguish them apart.

[@erinsquirkychannel501]

Which color sold most, use red easier to tell from light green or blue color

[@davidgoodrich386]

Great video. Last time I started to buy a gallon of pre mixed fuel at Lowes and Home Depot the price was $25.00 a gallon. Where I live gas is now going at about $3.25 a gallon. Pre mixed fuel is ridiculously over priced, not real tough to mix your own.

[@lloydames8752]

i use vp canned fuel mostly for storage over winter. Burn the tank off in spring and mix my own until storage time.

[@danlux4954]

Canned fuel is advertised as being able to be stored 2-3 years with no issues.

[@mbrick]

One complaint with your analysis is the you should use ethanol free fuel. I expect it will be slightly more than $3.25/gal but yes it is less expensive.

[@danlux4954]

@@mbrick none available where I live.

[@hnorrstrom]

Premixed fuel in Sweden is about $15 a gallon. ( just doing some math as well we of course don't use gallons or $ ) While from a tap it would be $10 for gas. Quite a difference.

[@dennissteinerd1548]

My derangement over ethanol turned my attention to the 'canned fuels'. I thought I was doing myself a favor. It was only after finding this video did I understand why my Echo chainsaw, trimmer and Stihl blower were running like crap. Erratic idles and a significant drop in high end RPM's. I switched to Red Armor mixed with Sunoco 94 and a squirt of Ethanol Shield. Now stand back!! Thank You Chickanic!!

[@speedy920]

you are right. I tried the pink stuff for lack of real gas, and I could hear that it ran like crap afterwards. Real gas fixed it right away. Thanks again for the heads up.

[@saltrock9642]

The price people pay for not taking time to mix fuel. Two things I take pride in are hand filing my chains and mixing my fuel. More people need to take pride and care in their equipment and it will take care of you. Thanks Bre!

[@scottsmith31]

I don’t think anyone cares that much anymore. People have way more important things to worry about than sharpening chain saw chains, and mixing fuel… small engine equipment is throw away crap these days, nobody cares.

[@TimeSurfer206]

@@scottsmith31 You have described 99% of what's wrong with our society. The entire "Throw away mentality."

[@new_england_times553]

@@TimeSurfer206 It's why in my community you can pass through the neighborhood and find fairly new machines that people will put out front with a "free" sign on it. You would figure people could go on KZbin and find channels like @Chickanic and fix minor problems. Also the price of repairs these people figure why fix it for $50 more I can buy a new one.

[@pacificdune]

@@scottsmith31 Next time you want to throw away your Stihl or Echo small engine tools just let me know…. I’ll even pay for shipping! 🙂

[@tedneitzel]

​@@scottsmith31you win dumb comment of the day so far! Well done!

[@pirep777]

Went back to mixing my own fuel after seeing one of your previous fuel videos. Since then I've had no issues.

[@rickvaughan8993]

I bought a weed eater 2 years ago. They offered an extended warranty if you used their canned fuel. The unit would not rev up to full RPM. Took it to the place I bought it. They adjusted the carb. It was better but still not achieving full RPM. Then I saw a video of yours or maybe someone else (not sure) about the canned fuel. Stopped using it at that time. The unit runs great and reaches full RPMs. It is however harder to start now. But still runs way better than on that premix junk! Thanks for the heads up.

[@tallen8696]

Without naming names...I did exactly the same thing. Ran fine first time. After that, could not get full RPMs. Ever since switching to Echo Red Armor , it hasen't missed a beat.

[@rufushusky]

I was having the same bogging issue with my husky blower been running canned fuel the whole time.... switched over to pump 93 and doesnt bog. Thank you for the PSA!

[@2_dog_Restoration]

For years I mixed my own fuel. I was in Menards and in a hurry so I picked up so canned fuel. BIG mistake !! I now have 2 chainsaws that bog down and have no power. I had all ready figured out that the can fuel was the problem before I watched your video. THANKS for confirming my problem!!

[@beausw]

Wow. This makes so much sense. I run my eskimo ice auger a few weeks in the winter and was using this product, with the same results. I thought the 15 year old carb was having issues. I will have to try some non ethanol pump gas a try.

[@anthonyvelez3788]

You make great learning videos, love it when big businesses and politicians get upset when someone tells the truth.

[@andysukosd8177]

You are absolutely correct about canned fuel , took your video to make me a believer ! I took the canned fuel out of my brand new blower that I could barely get started, mixed my own fuel and 2 cycle oil and guess what, starts right up and runs great. Thank you for sharing the truth.

[@christopherlehman4045]

All fuel gos bad no matter what brand canned or not first of all. Says up to 4 years on sealed can and up to 2 years after open. Also that’s a dark can in a dark spot so clear tank on a saw in the sun is completely different. Where my wife works sells many units of Stihl equipment and tons of canned gas they don’t see issues with canned gas. No idea how long the saws been sitting 91 octane e-free gos to crap after awhile too.

[@christopherlehman4045]

Also the almost new 461 that wouldn’t start isn’t almost new with worn out clutch bearing.

[@MartinD9999]

You didn’t pay attention: Doesn’t matter how many cans your wife sells and how many you’ve used, this shop uses, fixes and has seen more equipment, repaired more of them and used more than you or your wife combined.

[@grbenway]

@@MartinD9999 Ok , so you are saying trust her , but not trust some other random and then trust you.....

[@saywhen1976]

Trust No One. My Redmax blows a pile of wet leaves like nothing on Tru Fuel. It REDLINES! I've tried EVERY mix with every octane and every 2 cycle oil even several amsoils including dominator and even racing oil. Absolutely nothing redlines my EBX8500 like Tru Fuel. No idea what HULK IS IN IT. These people have old gas. Most comments are ass kisser followers not LEADERS LMAO. "FOLLOWERS"

[@robertstanley980]

Just bought a the biggest Stihl kombi. Brand new. Had a gallon of the VP pre mixed fuel laying around. Ran great last weekend, fired it up today and was sluggish. The can is less than a year old, was never opened.

[@dimensions7834]

Thanks for this. I used to have motor lawn equipment and used that gas from time to time when I didnt have the oil to mix. Good information to know.

[@bluejeeper1]

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but what about doing a video on mixing your own fuel? I think many people may be intimidated on doing it and you could show how simple it is and the cost benefits of doing it yourself. Great video as always and I have learned several tricks from your channel!

[@mikecee3058]

Who is stupid enough to be 'intimidated' by putting oil in a gas can?

[@MickeyMishra]

Canadians? @@mikecee3058

[@bluejeeper1]

Same people who are buying canned fuel instead of mixing their own I suppose.

[@bonvoyage5377]

Its easy, here in the UK and europe I guess, you can buy a measured dose in a small plastic bottle that you put into a 5ltr can of straight gas, that gives you the perfect ratio

[@JamesFlynn-np7sq]

most people like canned fuel because it has no ethanol added and should keep longer.

[@Dogm281]

I always try to refuse selling my customers that canned stuff, especially at $23 a gallon. I generally send them to check out with a new 1 gallon fuel can, some quality 2 cycle oil and directions to the closest 90 octane, ethanol-free station, with a dedicated hose. About 5 bucks a gallon! Yeah, I work at a big box store. 😒

[@geraldscott4302]

NO ethanol free gas in my communist state.

[@teebob21]

@@geraldscott4302 You can remove ethanol from gasoline by mixing 1 cup of water per gallon, shaking well, and let settle. The alcohol will dissolve into the water, and the gasoline will float to the top. Separate the fuel from the water and you're good to go.

[@dennisyoung4631]

@@geraldscott4302 question: do you have a general aviation airport in your area? If you can get some *aviation fuel* - 100 low lead - *that’s* alcohol-free, and is said to keep well, also. Failing that - race gas?

[@geraldscott4302]

@@dennisyoung4631 Yes there is a municipal airport nearby, but they won't put fuel in anything but an airplane. Race gas is available at the local dragstrip, in 5 gallon cans, at over $20 a gallon. My state has gone to great lengths to make it almost impossible to get ethanol free gas.

[@jimrichard7296]

Yes you can remove ethanol from gasoline with water, but by doing so you are lowering the octane rating. This is not a good idea.

[@shmeli]

Thanks for the info! I would add that cheaping out on the oil you buy to mix yourself can also lead to many frustrations. You get what you pay for, buy the good stuff!

[@FonicsSuck]

Yep, gotta use good gas with good oil.

[@davebarnes6672]

My own experience with canned fuel has been positive. I’ve read and heard about problems related to these fuels. My theory is simple. 2 cycle gas and oil may separate after setting for some time, much like salad dressing. I shake my fuel before adding. And should it already be full of this fuel and setting awhile? I just give the throttle body of my chainsaw or whacked a few shakes and it’s good to go. This has worked for me.

[@david-reason]

I love your professionalism . . . . you know your stuff! Go girl GO!

[@raycook1503]

Awesome video. Will always run my mixed gas, and most likely will be echo after this video and a previous one. Love your videos. I'm an auto technician, and have learned more from you on two cycle stuff than other people. Keep up the great work, and others notice that you are one of America's best!

[@ebinmaine]

Thank you for making this video. Hopefully with more and more exposure the folks in power will see that we NEED non-ethanol at the pump at broad spectrum availability.

[@martinoamello3017]

Been preaching no ethanol for years, but someone has to keep mechanics employed.. I'm not even a small engine mechanic, but I knew this since forever..lol

[@mrf5347]

Corn is food, NOT fuel!

[@jackd1582]

​@@mrf5347Nah its even worse as food , in its most widely consumed ( high fructose corn syrup)can't buy a new body

[@byronmill]

As others have commented I'm also curious as to whether part of the problem is that the engineered fuel got old or stale, either in the delivery chain or just sitting in the piece of equipment for a long time. It would have been interesting on that blower to subsequently dump out the mixed gas and that refill it with a "fresh" can of the engineered fuel and see if it's still ran below max RPM.

[@Ricky-eo5ym]

Ya a true experiment, I think you're probably right.

[@stinkycheese804]

But how does that solve anything? With the canned fuel, it is the age that it is, and you use it at the rate you use it. For my 2 cycle equipment, I mix up enough fresh from the gas station pump, to use within 2 months. For my use rate that is 2 & 2/3rd cups of gas and 1 tablespoons of oil to reach roughly 43:1 ratio. If it gets stale, I set it aside to use as a parts washing solution, or it is also a good substitute for products like Goo-Gone to clean petroleum adhesive/sticker residue off of things. Even better if you put a little diesel fuel in to slow down the evaporation rate. Use outdoors, of course.

[@1Kevin2Rule]

The cans have dates - are the customers using really old engineered fuel?

[@peterclark7879]

Great video, as a general mechanic I miss out on a a lot of the small engine intricacies. For all my gas ( Here in OZ we call it petrol ) engines I use pump gas plus fuel stabiliser, works a treat and never fill a 2 stroke with someone else's mix.

[@mariarusso1155]

Hi Peter😊

[@dwightsenter3049]

What kind of fuel do you use? What octane? I just had my Stihl serviced because it wouldn’t start. It probably only had 2 to 3 hours on the saw. They said someone messed with the carburetor, however it has never been out of my possession. They replaced the carburetor under warranty. They said to use the canned fuel. I bought a can and was shocked at the price. Although it was about $10 cheaper than Stihl fuel. I have been using a chainsaw for probably 60 years and this was the first, and last can of premixed fuel I will buy. Great video.

[@peterclark7879]

91 Octaine ethonol free and Stihl synthetic oil 50 to 1

[@mariarusso1155]

@@peterclark7879 hello

[@jackd1582]

​@@peterclark7879Cant you get higher octane ethanol free than 91 in oz??? Assuming you're not using "freedom units," as a system of measure

[@craxe877]

I followed your advice because I’ve been having issues with my echo chain saw cs-400 I believe. It wasn’t starting and wouldn’t keep running , I changed the fuel and it fired up and ran great. I loved the convenience of the TF fuel but can see the issues. I’m going to get back to mixing my own or buying the expensive stuff

[@davidgreene477]

Thank you for your videos! It's a rainy Saturday afternoon, and I was beginning to drift down into the doldrums. So I started watdhing some of your videos. In addition to learning a thing or two, I started to drift into smileyville. Feeling pretty good now. So you can fix more than saws and mowers and various putt-putts. Thanks again!

[@foxlake6750]

One Fall I decided to try the big box fuel for storage over the winter. In the Spring everything was hard to start….that never happened before. Never used it again and never had a starting problem in the Spring using premium ethanol free.

[@skibik3r]

You were surprised that fuel left in the tank for 8 months gave you trouble? Drain, run till the carb is dry, fog the carb, fog the cylinder. Easy peasy :D

[@TheChube25]

Great informative video again! I tell everyone that I kmow who uses 2 cycle equipment to watch your videos. Just recently told a tree service here in Lynchburg Va about you, and the video you and your husband did on the pump gas test for ethanol. He was surprised to learn that even ethanol free had 5 percent ethanol in it. Just a safety tip; PLEASE WEAR SOME SHOES WHEN RUNNING THOSE SAWS! You made me nervous opening that saw up wearing flip flops!

[@paulprigge1209]

I understand what you’re saying but that is nothing compared to another channel where the girls have long hair and they are not doing anything to prevent it from catching heavy equipment. I quit watching it and yes I remind them that loose Hair or clothing will kill you very very quickly with equipment

[@donboehner6005]

Yes… what the hell! Wear boots!

[@joem807]

Great video! I am guilty of using it at one time. Once I seen your video of how bad it is I emptied it out! One question though, do you mix 40-1 and 50-1 separately or do you just have a secret mixture? Thanks Bri for sharing your knowledge. You do a fine job young lady! Keep up the great job!

[@reminoel483]

I use 40:1 in ALL my saw! Ran 32:1 before because i had snowmobile mix on hand and no issues also

[@MtlCstr]

I only use Stihl premium (silver bottle) and do it by the instructions which is 50:1. Never had a fuel issue.

[@MtlCstr]

Oh, and only ethanol free gas with Sta-bil, in case I don't use it for a while.

[@davidgagnon2849]

@@MtlCstr If you ever have to have it fixed under warranty, they say they won't warranty it unless that's the 2 cycle oil you've been using.

[@stephencarrier6465]

There's a special cup called a Ratio Right, it has markings for every conceivable mixture,

[@plexusdan]

Great advice, my Echo 350 leaf blower fires up every time, but know others with start issues. Ring wear from burning straight gas my first thougth, but not anymore. Get a waste can with funnel though, as your coffee pot will break and ruin those flip flops or cause the vids to go up in flames. Keeping it real.

[@CEverett55]

Thank you very much for the tip. I've been having problems with my 2-stroke bogging at high RPM.

[@pauljennings4248]

Thanks for sharing this with us. I hope this will give the company the ability to make changes in their product. Thanks for what you do and that you continue to share. Paul

[@chrisherd991]

Great to see you starting the chain saw with your foot in the handle as a safety precaution.

[@michaelemerson7646]

I have a cheap Poulan saw that's been a bear to start since brand new. It may need valves adjusted as the compression is huge to overcome. I do use mid-grade ethanol fuel because ethanol-free fuels are no longer available in my area. I do use Echo fuel oil mixed with my Echo 210 weedeater that's about 15 yrs old and always starts on the 2nd or 3rd pull. Now it needs new fuel lines and the tank grommet replaced. Thanks Chickanic for your videos.

[@iffykidmn8170]

especially when wearing safety flipflops.

[@richardjames4632]

@@iffykidmn8170 Yes, I cringe when I see Bre working on chainsaws with her flip-flops. I can't work without my safety boots because I've conditioned myself to be scared without them on, but Bre is a lot more experienced than me.

[@badbob]

Never really understood why people would use that canned fuel anyway. I never have and never will. Ya got to love those flip flops. Very helpful vid. thanks again.

[@fredcloud9668]

Chainsaws love flip flops.

[@lesleyboeder1798]

The reason bought a can of premix is I live in town and only use my small home saw a few times a year and hate the idea of keeping a gallon of mix fuel at home in a single car garage. A one liter can is easy to store and the kids won't mix it up. And put it were it shouldn't go

[@PhilReed-e7z]

Troy-bilt TB225 mini tiller. Hard to start every season ran terribly at wide-open throttle backfiring never really reached WOT. Clean the carburetor, bought and tried a brand new carburetor. No help. Watched this video, which caused me to circle back, because I had been using canned fuel, thinking I was eliminating a fuel issue. Put in fresh gas with some sea foam and it now starts right up and runs at WOT with no backfiring !! Thank you!!!!!!!

[@davidthorne4943]

Wow. Thanks for the video. I just thought my blower and chain were running bad. I thought getting ethanol free fuel was better. No more big box store fuel for me.

[@joemccall8991]

We greatly appreciate your honesty, Bre! If you recommend something I will definitely put it on my wish list. If you tell me something is going to bring me nothing but frustration you're damn sure I'm going to avoid it.

[@andrewsallee6044]

Your shop coffee must have a heck of a kick! More seriously... I wonder if freshness has an effect. I'd be willing to bet that somewhere along the supply chain those cans sit for way too long. Perhaps the fuel is OK when it goes in the can, which is why it works for some people, but at some point the age matters and you see problems. I am pretty sure that when I make my own mix, the gas hasn't sat around for very long.

[@vincentmcclelland9179]

I have had Echo fuel in a trimmer and chainsaw both, set over the winter, and well into the summer for the saw, they both fired up with out having to do anything but prime the trimmer, choke the saw, saw did not have bulb to prime, both fired up and ran just fine on left over fuel in the tanks, it was Echo Red Armor fuel

[@mikezupancic2182]

The problem is that they claim it doesn't go bad

[@tomizbick4922]

❤

[@obxkoastie8170]

I don't know if they still have a date stamp on the bottom of the cans but I don't care what the chemistry is, the fuel will deteriorate when mixed with any brand of two-stroke oil. Red Armor has a preservative in it that is supposed to be good for two years. To me it is much easier to get an accurate measuring cup and only mix the amount of fuel and two-stroke oil I need at any one time; much easier than taking it to a shop or rebuilding the carb. I am a fan of Amsoil Saber at 40:1 and have been using it for over 30 years in all my two stroke equipment including large chainsaws (461, 660).

[@NA-pg4lf]

The coffee wouldn’t even give you a buzz.

[@mikerowland7192]

Wow! Once again I have been duped into believing that manufacturers would produce the best fuel for their products and I even bought one bottle of way too expensive fuel. My new trimmer ran okay with it but ran even better with the next tankful of mixture I used at a third the cost. I figured it was better because of being broken in, but now I know it was better fuel at much lower cost.

[@kierenalvarez]

It's called advertising. All products do it... some more than others

[@jacquesbeauchamp3705]

I have been mixing my own fuel in my Echo es5500 for the last 28 years (With regular gas as per manufacturer's recommendations) and it still works like a charm. Some people tell me that I should always use hi octane gas on small engines but I'm very sceptical about that and need clarification.

[@Chrisgpop]

Dumb question maybe but what is in “your” gas? What should we use? I had been using Stihl ready mix, but also tried non-ethanol from Rural King then mixed with my own oil. I won’t use anything Ethanol from the pumps here in WPA. Tired of cleaning out gunked up carbs. What gas do you recommend?

[@mikemaccracken3112]

I bought it once back in the day. I have bought VP premixed fuel because I know they are an actual fuel producer. I buy a five gallon can of VP MS98 and mix it with Echo Red Armor. VP fuel has a three year shelf life. I use VP as storage fuel for all my carbureted equipment.

[@dadefope80]

I like VP as well. I was in Walmart one day near the outdoor power equipment. I saw 4 bottles of VP syn 2 cycle mix in the 16 oz bottle for $2 each. I haven't turned back since.

[@2962Todd]

It was nice to see your gas can. I have the same one. It's amazing how the government can screw up something as simple as a gas can. Great videos, I've learned a lot from them.!!

[@wtmayhew]

Same here. I’ve had the exact same gas can for a couple decades. I have been using Walmart Hypertech 2-stroke oil and decent 91 octane gasoline. If it is late in the season, I add the recommended amount of Sea Foam to stabilize the gas. So far, no problems with my 50:1 ratio tools, even Stihl, after several years. So far this season, I haven’t needed to change any spark plugs. I’m definitely not going to touch that pink stuff.

[@karlrovey]

Why is everyone having trouble with the new gas cans? They're so simple to use. I've avoided fuel related issues by just stabilizing all my small engine gasoline. It takes forever to go through a gallon of mixed gas. I know there would be issues if I didn't stabilize it.

[@wtmayhew]

@@karlrovey I finally found a plastic gas can branded Briggs & Stratton which appears to have a reasonable finger trigger on the spout. I just got it, so I haven’t put fuel in it yet. The other stupid new gas can I had required pressing down on the lip of the fuel inlet of the equipment in question to press a trigger. It was nearly unavoidable to get fuel all over the place trying to fill my hedge clipper and backpack blower due to their slanted inlets. I’m glad I hung on to my old gas can which is the go-to for my 50:1 fuel for now.

[@karlrovey]

@@wtmayhew I haven't had issues with the Midwest cans (aside from an older one with a broken spout that was a victim of deffered replacement). I know everyone hates them.

[@yoshisaidit7250]

Anytime you want to make something bad or worse, easiest way is to get government involved. If it's not broke, it will be. if it's a bad situation, make it worse. Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.

[@chasson321]

I’m always impressed with Bre’s pull start. I’d hate to be elbowed by her. What an arm!😁

[@mikeyyoyo6464]

I don’t think you would feel a thing, until you woke up 😂

[@ctfan1486]

Tighten, under, yank

[@joefudd]

When this lady is right, she's right on! She was right on about Stihl's 2 cycle oil clogging muffler spark arrestor screens. Glad I saw her video about that before I used much of it in my new Stihl saws. My next door neighbor always bragged about using the canned fuel from the big box stores and I had always noticed that his leaf blower and weed whacker would rev and bog just as she demonstrated and were also hard starting. I've always mixed my own 2 cycle fuel using echo 2 cycle oil, now their red armor. Filled my neighbor's leaf blower with it when he ran out of gas and he was amazed and never used his canned gas from the big box store ever again. Well done, Chickanic! I was a small engine mechanic too for over 40 years.

[@MC-ft8zv]

Bre, thanks for your channel. You are honest and upfront, always looking to save the average Joe money if possible, with real world tests. Plus, you are an animal lover. Perfect!! Appreciate your channel, and the time and effort you put into it.

[@RichardTurlington]

I know NOTHING about small engines (or any engines for that matter). However I'm learning what NOT to do by watching your channel. I've never used canned fuel, but now I know to stay away from it. :)

[@dirtybird437]

It's simple. 1 bottle of 2 cycle oil Per gallon of unleaded gas, mixed into the same gas container. No premixed box store stuff. .. make me it yourself

[@RichardTurlington]

@@dirtybird437 I have been making it myself. I've actually never tried the cans stuff because I found it very easy to make my own. however you should not just say it's simple one bottle to 1 gallon of gasoline, as you can buy larger quantities than a standard small size bottle. I did find a handy measurement device though that tells you how many fluid ounces to put in based on how many gallons of gas, relative to the ratio you need for your device.

[@leadpilled5567]

I didnt even know canned fuel was a thing. We always mix our own and when ethanol became a thing we just started getting gas at the local marina ethanol free. Grew up with boats and snowmobiles that you had to mix. A little cross multiplication gives you the right oil/gas combo

[@ralphmouse2574]

If you can't find ethanol free gas you can also use a big clear water jug and mix the gasahol with water and shake it up and then let it settle out and the water will absorb the alcohol, the water and and alcohol will sit on the bottom and you can siphon off the clean gas on top

[@mbburry4759]

​@@ralphmouse2574that sounds super sketch - even if it does actually work. Since it sounds like you've a actually done it is there a visible separation between layers

[@traestuart384]

​@@mbburry4759it's absolutely a working, viable option if you don't have access to ethenol free gas. Now, I wouldn't suggest filling the 50 gallon tank on a bass boat that way....

[@ralphmouse2574]

Yes you can totally see it separate out, yeah it would be a huge pain in the ass to do a large amount but if you just need a couple gallons for a small engine it works fine

[@wazza33racer]

On a similar topic, my friend is a farmer, they have a bulk gasoline tank filled on farm by their supplier once or twice a year. Since the removal of leaded gasoline, he has noticed that after about 3 months, the gasoline used in his vehicles makes them run poorly, motorbikes wont even start. Fresh fuel is always best, preferably no ethanol.

[@MichaelMorton-w9x]

I love this video, I am a small engine mechanic in north Louisiana. I have customers that use premixed fuels, when they bring me their equipment because its not running right or just not running. First thing I do is pour out their fuel, I am a Red Armor fan, I have proved to myself its the best oil you can buy, its pricey though. My experience in this issue I will pour their fuel out in front of them and fill their unit with my premix Red Armor, and most of the time I don't make any money from that customer, but they will return or refer me someone. I am a very limited shop and will not work on just anything simply because its not worth taking your money, and next year you bring it back to me and be upset because it doesn't run right. Mostly most of my customers problems are fuel issues and spark arrestor screens in exhaust and Mud Dobber nests in the exhaust in a lot of Stihl blowers. I haven't watched all your videos but what I have seen, you are a awesome mechanic, keep the videos going. Thanks Mike

[@robinelston5966]

What part of North Louisiana, just wondering in case I need parts when I'm up that way.