Fueled by Deception. How You’re Getting Ripped Off at the Pump! (I'm SHOCKED!) VLOG

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My name is Bre. I took two years of small engine repair at the local college. When I left school, I fell into a wonderful job at a local small engine shop where I worked the counter for a couple years. In 2010 my husband and I opened up our own small engine shop in central Arkansas where I am able to work alongside my family and best friends. We see over 2,000 pieces of small engine equipment every year, and answer 1,000's of small engine questions. We specialize in brands such as Briggs and Stratton, Kohler, Echo and Shindaiwa, but work everyday on MANY other brands like Stihl, Husqvarna, Honda, Craftsman, Remington, Red Max, Troy Bilt, Scag, Bad Boy, Hustler, World Lawn, Poulan, Mantis, Etc.. Hopefully, my experience I share, will save you Time, Money and Frustration in the future!
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[@rickcunningham5581]

You need a glass beaker to pour your gas in. Then pour in your test bottle. Also the big airline companies tell you they use clean fuel when it's actually a cheap grade of kerosene! They got the politicians in there back pocket and make us use non vented gas containers.

[@thekingsilverado3266]

What I like about our Valero Station here in NEPA is the Non E. fuel is a separate hose and pump. I will only buy that for my tractors. I have my smaller2cyl equipment now going on 6 years that has been running fantastic on True Fuel. I also have a 4cyl leaf blower and I use the True Fuel 4cyl in that. Guess what it works. Stay away from the Crapsman leaf blowers... Anything 2cyl sold at LOWES stay away from the stuff its all specially made extra cheap just for them sweethearts.

[@hastuart9639]

@@thekingsilverado3266 why doyou need to blow leaves, why not rake them or pick them up in a lawnmower which will chop them up and then you deposit them on your compost.

[@thekingsilverado3266]

@@hastuart9639 Y'all don't live in the Pocono Mountains now do ya Ese... You can't never comp leaves up here in that sense. The leaves here will choke even a zero turn... I have a 17.5hp Yard Man and 20hph Crapsman mowers and even a Deere with the Kawasaki 17hp... The leaves & pine cones drown em... The trees on my property are all well over 100 years old... The Northern Pines on my patch and neighbors property are well over 80ft tall. So do that math... We have pine cones bigger than hand grenades and if ya run over a few.... Well use your imagination OK... You ain't chompin that up with no mower.

[@stevefite1]

As a fuel chemist and fuel quality professional for 40 years for several oil companies and with my retail and terminal experience I usually view these video's and just shake my head but you are spot on with your testing and knowledge of fuel dispensers. Yes indeed, there will be a small amount of whatever was previously pumped when a shared dispenser hose is used. And your testing using the phase separation characteristics of water/gasoline/ethanol blends is 100% accurate. Finally someone who is educating viewers correctly.

[@A3Kr0n]

I slept at a Holiday Inn last night and I agree.

[@watching95]

Casey’s has a dedicated hose for ethanol free. If your station does not, pump 4 gallons into your car first.

[@kurtmoore3912]

I always pump into my car before I pump into the gas can

[@TheARTISToftheLair]

.....and good looking too!

[@StaticSift]

the gas sumps below the pump draw the gas back from the pump nozzle. i install these for quick trip and kum and go. i can speak for oklahoma pumps we good

[@chrisgriffith1573]

I love the "spill-proof" nozzles, which NOBODY can operate without SPILLING!

[@DGill48]

If I stop at a yard sale, I always look first, for two things: Gas cans with the old nozzle, and American made Vice Grips.

[@michigandon]

@@DGill48 NATO cans are the only way to rock!

[@ralphfreeman255]

@@uknowimright6269 Great idea! Never thought to look there

[@lakecavanaugh]

Funnel?

[@joeyt5786]

I use a siphon. Take the nozzle of put the squeeze siphon in rarely make a mess if you are paying attention.

[@joes2514]

I spill more gas everytime I use an EPA spout than I've spilled in my entire life.

[@douglashouse]

I bit the bullet a few years ago, trashed all my leaky plastic gas cans & bought spring-loaded cap steel cans with funnels. Yeah, 3x price of plastic. A 1 gal for my oil mixes for chain saws etc, a 2-gal for gas my petite wife can handle, ( she do loves the zero turn mower) & two 5-gals, one for tractor diesel, one for gas. Will start pumping 2 gals in my truck before I fill my cans with ethanol free. Love the metal cans. Safer too. Labeled each can with paint stick. Bought Dad & brothers these for birthday gifts.

[@brenthicks7514]

Thanks Bre.. for enlightening me about the shared gas hose problem! Also, I've never met a person that thought the "safety gas cans" were actually safer. They're typically difficult to operate and often spill fuel worse than the older cans.

[@kenbrown2808]

it depends on the design. I've seen some valve controlled gas cans that are a vast improvement over the average "traditional" can. and I've seen ones, like the ones in the video, that take three hands to operate.

[@cphank3722]

Some cans' "safety spouts" can be modified to still allow cutting off the flow without the awkward triggering required here. It depends on the spout design.

[@karlrovey]

Honestly, I haven't had any issues with the safety cans available where I am.

[@lindachaffins4504]

It's just dumb , they changed the spouts because someone removed the safety screen and blue them self up so big gov steps in and F,s everything up for the rest of us

[@karlrovey]

@@lindachaffins4504 That's not why they were changed. It's due to CA air quality rules.

[@ronrice2249]

Being an ex-manager for 2 convenience store chains, some people may not know to not get gas at any place where they are in the process of unloading a load of gas. As the gas pours into the underground tank it stirs up the water and sediment in the bottom of the tank. If you get gas at that time or immediately after, you may get some of that in your gas tank. If you go to get gas and a truck is unloading fuel at the time, go somewhere else.

[@magnificenthonky]

Hadn't thought of that, before. How long should you wait, before the crap settles back to the bottom?

[@roostercogburn3771]

What about the filters at the pump? How often do they need to be changed? I've been getting fuel for over 2 score and never had a problem, though I don't pay attention if a truck is unloading.

[@dgunearthed7859]

@@magnificenthonky the longer the better really. Like he said I see a truck unloading or parked at the station, I keep going. I suppose we could ask how often they fill up and when. I also don't gas up if there's been a heavy rain. Just over cautious I suppose.

[@molallamerica896]

The pump filter catches any potential materials. Your car fuel filter would catch the rest. I would say, any station that has slow pumps, has clogged filters.

[@samrotolo7303]

I learned this the hard way from experience on my harley. Had to clean out fuel tank etc. full of sediment after getting fuel while truck was filling tanks.. I know around Washington the stations I use have separate hose.

[@gregdavenio1125]

Thank you for your investigative work! I’ve held onto my “old fashioned” gas can for years because of those new cans. I actually retrofitted my youngest daughters gas can with a simple spout, and vent. They’re worried about fumes leaking into the atmosphere….ridiculous!! You spill more trying to get the dang gas out of the can! Thank you again for this video, a mechanic told me years ago that the Ethenol is very corrosive to parts on older equipment. 👍

[@alan6832]

The splash guard defeating the turkey baster is what bothered me the most. I wonder if it would also defeat a boat style primer bulb and hose? I also often just use a funnel and pour without the cap, and save the old stuff.

[@buggsy5]

The ethanol is bad for aluminum parts as well as some rubber/plastic materials.

[@buggsy5]

@@alan6832 I use a funnel when filling my JD rider mower. I do not use the spout at all - just pour right out of the gas can.

[@normtheteacher5485]

Ethanol is not only more corrosive but also burns hotter. Heat is a number one enemy of any mechanical device. I read in a college text book on automatic transmission repair, that if you can reduce the heat in an automatic transmission by only 10% you can double the life of the transmission. In any mechanical device try to keep heat at a minimum.

[@whatthehell2592]

“I’m here from the government and here to help”. Yeah sure!

[@1RCPILOT]

The plastic gas cans now days are ridiculously expensive. As you have shown,they don’t work worth a CRAP!!! Thank you for all the time and effort you put into these videos. 👍

[@leecowell8165]

I drilled them out or otherwise removed all the guts from the fillers. Mine are all straight fillers now just like the old days. Except for the mandated prices of course.

[@senatorjosephmccarthy2720]

Find a plastic jug of the required size, rinse well. Paint it red. Go find your plastic funnel. Done.

[@matthewronson5218]

nowadays

[@horsefly1020]

I use the VP gas jugs they work awesome.

[@mattthescrapwhisperer]

I heard of this a few years back. When I fill my gas cans, I always pump 2 or 3 gallons into my truck first, then fill the cans, then top off the truck. That method always worked well for me.

[@rick391]

Exactly the response I was going to share :)

[@mattthescrapwhisperer]

@@rick391 👍

[@richpeggyfranks490]

Ditto.

[@georgehacker6939]

Smart technique.

[@gungadingo]

Unless like me, you drive a diesel truck! 😂

[@illiniwood]

From someone who used to run a gas station, I can tell you that not only the hose on the pumps with a "single nozzle", but the manifold and filters can also hold quite a bit of fuel. When she says to pump a few gallons into your car first it's not to be taken lightly. Also, if your station(with a single nozzle) has only three ground fill ports but four grade options, then you know they're using a mix manifold and pulling from two tanks to get the selected grade. Because some mix manifolds are a little larger at some stations, you're gonna want to pump a little extra, extra into your car before filling your cans.

[@nunya3163]

Not too mention the idiot delivery guys pumping fuel into the wrong tanks when they deliver. The gas in the tank may not even be what the station bought.

[@illiniwood]

@@nunya3163 That hasn't been an issue for about 30 years or more. Each grade has its own unique port boot. In other words, mid grade hose doesn't fit on the premium fuel port, and so on.

[@mavmo192]

Used to drive a fuel tanker and remember delivering to a couple of stations owned by one guy that would purposely order extra regular . Because it was cheaper than unleaded and then have you dump it in unlead tank.

[@berryreading4809]

Yeah I've changed plenty of filters, nozzles,hoses, and pull free couplings for a BP station, only 10%ethanol for all 3 octane numbers on a regular/premium mix pump with 1 filter for the 2 different tanks, and diesel/off-road diesel sold on a different pump set... separate hoses, nozzles (large nozzle off-road) and filters on the diesel pumps though. It definitely took atleast a gallon or more to clear the mixer/control and hose on the shared gas nozzle (atleast for these pumps) I never got my small engine fuel there 😆 Luckily there were 3 other stations nearby with dedicated hose ethanol free pumps, one station had single hose ethanol free pumps, but knowing what I did I stayed away from there so I didn't have to waste $1 more on 2 gallons of purge gas, while also hoping they filled the tanks correctly and kept the filters changed... 😉 Also I never would've believed so many people drive off with the pump handle still in their car 🤦‍♂️ and atleast half the people would toss the nozzle towards the pump and not even tell the clerk 🙄 Thank God for those break free easy attach quick connects! I would install those as customers broke the older single use versions. I only ever knew of one person driving completely away with a pump handle and hose from that BP, an elderly lady from out of state, I never saw that handle and hose returned so I can't tell you how that story ended 🤷‍♂️😳

[@r2db]

I have heard stories from long before my time driving where the pumps used to allow you to drain the fuel from the hose after shutting them off, which would then force the next customer to pay to refill the hose before they had any fuel dispensed. I presume that was a remnant from the days of the even older "visible" gas pumps.

[@3DThrills]

I go to Sunoco. They have the diesel and corn-free on the same pump, so they can't mix those two. Back in the day you could dial in your desired octane at Sunoco, from 190 up to 260. 190 was 87 octane, 260 was 97.5 octane. Chock full of delicious lead, of course.

[@shanew.williams]

Another great fuel was the premium AMOCO (pump nozzle had a clear window with little balls that showed the fuel passing thru when you squeezed the trigger). Crystal clear, down south here we called it "AMOCO White Gas". My dad insisted on it for his 427 Corvette.

[@1Cobranut]

@@shanew.williams That was the early unleaded fuel. I'd be concerned about valve recession in older cast iron head engines.

[@RayStephens-jg6ji]

knock knock?

[@speedracer650]

In the past 3 years I've caught the Gate Station on 3rd Street Jacksonville Beach , selling ethanol blended fuel as non ethanol . This is a dedicated non ethanol pump and hose. The last time I told them next time, a call to the Florida Department of Agriculture (they don't play)

[@perryreed5010]

They "play" if they're paid off like all other government agencies

[@gcampbell83]

This is a RED letter day for me! I went by Bre's "studio" and got to meet her personally. She autographed my Echo hat and I even got my picture taken with her. What a wonderful experience. Thank you Bre! Love the content.

[@Chickanic]

Thanks for stopping in darlin'!

[@justinpennington7682]

You play sink the sausage with her ?

[@68fmj51]

Great info, and something I had never thought about. Every non-ethanol pump I have access to has the one pump handle. Glad I watched this when I did because I’m about to go get non-ethanol for my new Stihl 261. Those fuel cans piss me off to the extreme. I have spilled more gas and diesel because of that garbage. I’ve worked for the federal government for almost 23 years so I’m painfully aware of how mind-numbingly stupid our government is.

[@Graysail0r]

Been using my Stihl 026 since 1993 and my Stihl MS250 since 2012. Also have two Stihl brushcutters and two Husqvarna saws, and an Echo even. I always get the 'ethanol free' and treat it and so far I don't think it's been a problem. Maybe by it going into a 5 gallon can and then with the treatment added, the ethanol is diluted enough not to cause any issues. However I WILL be looking for pumps with a handle ONLY for the non-ethanol gas - mainly because you're getting ripped off since you are paying more for it. I suppose I could just squirt a half gallon on the ground first, lol. Pretty sure the station owners might take offense!

[@Norm100ful]

@@Graysail0rput in your vehicle first.

[@davidj.leavitt249]

@@Norm100ful…that won’t work when you’re driving your diesel truck to the gas station.

[@Norm100ful]

@@davidj.leavitt249 So true. Luckily, my pump handle is separate.

[@user-sk9lu9ou5y]

I was a "Heavy Mechanic" all my life. Small engines drove me nuts. But I did learn something from a customer years ago. We were talking about how hard some small engines can be to start and even keep running. I used his advise for decades without any problems, even after sitting all winter. Always USE Super Unleaded (in gas engines of course) and gap the plug to .036. It works for any small engine. I have all sorts of small engines from mower, snow blower, weed eater, edger, trimmers, etc. NOTHING takes more than 2 pulls to start.

[@normtheteacher5485]

I used to have a small engine repair business. I was curious at one time why Weed eaters fail so soon and become so hard to start after about a year of use. One day I decided to take apart about a dozen of them customers let me keep to investigate what their problem is. My findings were that many of them had the rings fuse- welded into the piston. Once that happens, they lose compression and things like new spark plugs, adjustment of the carburetor, changing the fuel, rebuilding the carburetor, cleaning the exhaust screen all become a complete waste of time. After that I decided to never work on them again because they are complete junk. I told customers to just buy a battery operated one. The solution would be to make the engine and piston out of cast iron instead of aluminum and to improve the cooling system. They will never do that because they would last too long and screw up their planned obsolescence scheme.

[@journeyman291]

When I bought mt Stihl weedeater, the shop recommended buying Stihls 6 pack full synthetic 2 cycle oil. Each one treated 1 gallon of gas. 1st I thought he's just trying to add to the sale. But when he told me if purchased with the tool, Sthil would double the warranty period to 2 years. I now use synthetic oils in all my power tools. 2 or 4 stroke

[@1Cobranut]

@@normtheteacher5485 I use synthetic 2-stroke oils, and never run the lean oil ratios they recommend these days. Even in my big outboards I always ran 40:1, and in small engines 25:1. Contrary to popular belief the extra oil does NOT cause more carbon, it actually prevents carbon from accumulating in the combustion chamber and ring grooves. It's also better for the cylinder walls and bearings. You do sometimes have to richen the mixture screws a bit to offset the extra oil. I've never had a carbon problem using this method. 😎

[@meagaindave2049]

Yes! For ethanol-free fuel, I travel to the town next to mine which has a Chevron station with a dedicated ethanol-free pump. It isn't cheap but worth it for my generator when power goes out for days after a hurricane. I'm in Florida and I need that storage life. P.S. a small funnel is a life saver! 😉👍

[@es2709]

Just what I needed...another reason to hate the gas station. I've adopted a new way of thinking...if I'm buying something, I just automatically assume I'm being conned. Nothing like buying inferior products at inflated prices. Quality content, much appreciated!

[@Huntnlady7]

Caveat Emptor

[@es2709]

@@Huntnlady7 Buyers must be responsible simply because sellers navigate their dealings with the moral compass of a $2 dark alley whore...by choice.

[@01trsmar]

@@Huntnlady7 Hard to examine the fuel before you buy it..

[@Huntnlady7]

@@01trsmar Yes, but if you live in a single area, you tend to buy your fuel in the same places. TEST IT!

[@ratheskin58]

Welcome to capitalism.

[@deankruse4491]

I was made aware of this problem many years ago after reading a motorcycle magazine story about this subject. That article was about buying premium fuel and getting regular fuel for the first .3 gallon or so when using the single hose pumps. They recommended always going to the pumps that had individual hoses for each octane grade. Unfortunately those seem to be hard to find these days.

[@marktype1with2]

Whenever I’m out riding with a friend I will pay for gas but fill his tank first, since I pay I don’t feel as guilty. 🤣

[@johnnygavita]

@@marktype1with2 Savage

[@markallen6818]

That's what I used to do but you can't hardly find stations with individual pumps anymore.I like to use ethanol free gas every once in a while in my bike and always in my weed eater and chainsaw.

[@hjc5458]

Us bikers have known about this problem for 20 years +. As for the mixing manifolds, anyone old enough to remember Sunoco had that setup as far back as I can remember You had a choice of 190, 200, 220, 240, 250,and 260 even had another choice but it wasn't available unless you had a friend at the station.

[@mowcowbell]

Pumps with individual hoses for each octane grade are pretty much standard at stations in Okla. 100% gasoline widely available, too. (if you're willing to pay the .40 to .50 cents per gallon extra).

[@ralphcantrell3214]

And that's why I buy my ethanol-free gas at the local Walmart, where it is 91 octane and has its own dedicated pump attached to a dedicated blue nozzle. On the odd occasion that I must get it somewhere else, I always spray the first gallon or so in the truck. Ethanol will absolutely wreak havoc on your small engines.

[@FrankJoy-rk5bm]

Good job! I just drain the tanks on my gasoline powered tools.... Then run the carburetor empty... I saw your frustrations.... Welcome to the brave new world 😁

[@richardsb3606]

This video just made me fall in love with our QT even more, their ethanol free fuel has it's own hose and nozzle and isn't connected to the other gasolines.

[@frankroberts9320]

The last Buc-ees store I filled up at here in Texas does the same thing, but rebrands the fourth grade as some magical E0 grade and charges twice as much as their shared hose premium for their magic 'motion lotion'.

[@kramnull8962]

The sheetz in Troutman, NC has 4 grades of E fuel and the 3 main unleaded on one pump. We create and pay these "handout jobs" to create a system that only works one way. Regulate the fuel and the system by strict calibration to make sure the government doesn't get screwed out of a drop of road tax. Then totally overlook the quality of the system that is pumping the fuel to protect the public.

[@kramnull8962]

I don't mean to be political about it. I got a little aggravated when they came by paving our road with 3/8" of asphalt last year. The potholes that were before were then mere 3/4" divots after their icing job. Didn't even bother to pack anything into the holes.

[@martininfante5230]

We started seeing labels on gas pumps here (Pennsylvania) a while back that say something to the effect that you may get up to 2% ethanol in your fuel when you select ethanol free premium. I'm told some type of regulation made them do that on one-hose multi grade pumps. Our Valero stations now all seem to have dedicated hose for ethanol free premium. You are a good detective and a great mechanic!

[@imdeplorable2241]

Valero has ethanol-free gas? Do ALL stations have its? A Valero station opened here last year.

[@dandalton2057]

999999999999

[@davebarnes6672]

That’s why I treat my fuel anyway after pumping supposed premium non ethanol into my Harley. These people should be in jail for fraud and theft !

[@charliejones7574]

That junk ate every "o" ring in my fuel system. Happily the Sporty is one if the easier ones to pull the pump on

[@davidgreene477]

Thanks for your channel. There's a gas station near here that has one of the selections as e0. However, they were straight-forward enough to have a sign on the pump that if you are pumping the E0 (their pumps have a single hose for all grades), the first bit of fuel that comes from the hose will have gas from last customer and might not be the ethanol-free. With their caution in mind, any time I'm getting a few gallons of E0, I do pump the first gallon into my car's tank. Then I proceed to put the E0 into my fuel can. I didn't know about the ethanol content checker from Amazon. Going to order one. Just wanted to say that your videos (just learned of them today, and have watched only 2 of them), are straight to the point and don't have any BS in them (I'm not a tomato plant so I don't need the BS from some of the other folks). Thank you much for good info, straight to the point. Cheers.

[@americafirst4me]

HOLY COW! This matters a lot to me because I only want ethanol free in everything I own!!! THANK YOU for having this video!!!!

[@Mbonner73]

I drive 20 miles out of town for my gas just because of this. The next town over has a designated pump for ethanol-free gas. it's worth the drive because my livelihood depends on my equipment. Your video is spot on, good job 🇺🇲

[@phillipsusi1791]

AFAICT, the reason to use ethanol free gas in lawn equipment is only because most people use it lightly once a week and so the gas tends to sit in the tank for a long time, and Ethanol gas turns to varnish faster. If you are using it every day and getting fresh gas every day or two or three, then what's the point of going ethanol free? I've had a brigs and straton mower engine for home use for 12 years now. It ran a little rough last week when I fired it up for the first time in 4 or 5 weeks, with gas I probably got 3 or 4 months ago ( the usual 10% ethanol sold everywhere in the state ), but next week when I get fresh gas it should run fine again. And I've never even changed the spark plug. I got a new one to change it next week since.. well, it should probably have a fresh one after 12 years.

[@dd_ranchtexas4501]

Matt Bonner We are lucky here in our small town that we have a station that sells ONLY E0 gasoline. Nothing but raw gas. Expensive as hell, but free of alcohol. Use in all my small engines that are not run several times a week. Don't know for sure how much better it is than E, as I never did a scientific study, but I will continue using it........ ( they also sell kerosene by pump from large tank. Unusual.)

[@glenndotter5065]

Are you positive they have a separate tank

[@oneslave3318]

@@phillipsusi1791 Big point for pure gas is motorcycles. A small amount of ethanol makes them to hot to ride.

[@michaelporter9354]

Good for you. I drive 18 miles just to get ethanol free gas. My pickup and power equipment thank me.

[@rickl5938]

Wow! Great video. Never realized that. I did know that there was a hose full of gas left after you shut the pump off that you could get out of the hose by squeezing the trigger on the old style nozzles. But, you can't do that with the new style nozzles since they won't operate after you shut the pump off. So, the gas stations are ripping you off that way too by not letting you get the gas that you paid for out of the hose. Thanks again for sharing your knnowledge. BTW, sorry to hear about you husband's hip and having to close shop for awhile. Look at it as a well deserved break. Hope you get back into it, you are a great mechanic. Also, congrats on the Husqvarna gig.

[@kinbake]

I read an article about "making" your own ethanol-free gas by putting "some" water in a carboy (5-gallon glass jug), add your gasoline... shake... let stand for quite a while and, after it separates, siphon off your ethanol-free fuel above the separation line.

[@PT-ie2xj]

I wouldn't recommend this. Modern gasoline contains a variety of additives that serve important purposes. These include detergents that keep your engine clean, anti-corrosion inhibitors to protect your fuel system, seal preservatives to prevent fuel leaks, and lubricants to reduce friction. Siphoning off the top layer of gasoline after mixing with water may remove some of these additives along with the ethanol (depending on the additives' affinity for alcohol and water). Also, as others have pointed out, removing the ethanol decreases the octane rating. This method of getting ethanol-free gas has the potential to cause as much harm as good.

[@rajon25]

Just a thought if you ever do this again - pour the gas into an intermediary container like a measuring cup with a spout and then a funnel in the small bottle. I am prone to over engineer to prevent spills.

[@Chickanic]

Omg.. Thanks! Im so dumb. 😂

[@rajon25]

@@Chickanic If you are dumb, what am I? 🤣 Seriously, having the smart idea to even do this experiment is not negated because there was some opportunity to improve efficiency. Sorry not sorry but you don't get to say you are dumb just because I already did the same things and HATE dealing with spilled fuel. You are smart!!!!!

[@teevis3620]

😅🤣😂 l think l do too.

[@johnmicheal3547]

Or remove the government stupidity spout and fill from the container... slowly.

[@wilfordharju528]

Put a gallon in your car first.

[@myhdsoftail03]

I've been telling people for years that on a single hose mult-grade pump your getting what is left in the line and you can't be sure what tanks they are drawing from, but everyone is to trusting and say oh that can't be. Well guess what you just proved it, thank you.. Love your video's keep up the good work. Regards from AL's Small Engine 😁

[@czechmate6916]

I hear you. I’ve told people also for a long time the same thing and their response was that I was full of crap. Lmao 🤣

[@programmingchicago]

I remember way back when -when ALL of the pumps had different grades in them. Not anymore though.

[@billybrand]

I have been telling people that too for years. We who fill up with high octane get a gallon of shitty gas that we paid full price for and the person who fills up after me get a gallon roughly 4 litres of high octane for the price of cheap gas. In Canada it's in litres and we pay on average 2.00 dollars CAD per litre with all the taxes added to it. Carbon tax be damned. I now use a Greenworks™ battery operated chainsaw. Lol!

[@iffykidmn8170]

@@billybrand now all you need to be concerned with is if the electricity was generated with wind, solar, hydro, propane, nuclear or coal.

[@billybrand]

@@iffykidmn8170 I get around an hour of cutting with one charged battery and I have three. I use my off grid system to charge the batteries. Biggest issues are the costs of the batteries and the pollution that will be caused from disposing them even at a recycling place.

[@michalczerwonka4020]

Mantis tiller, '87 vintage. New carb, fuel lines. Purchased ethanol free canned 50:1 mix from a big box store. Runs for 5 seconds, dies. Got upset, blamed faulty carburator, went to bed. Next day: costco gas, ethanol treatment and 2 cycle oil. Same machine runs like new. Leason learned. Can't argue with facts. Thank you, Bre!

[@normtheteacher5485]

Here is a tidbit in case you ever run into it. If you have an engine that runs for about 7 to 10 minutes and then quits but will start again after it cools. Chances are, it needs a new ignition module. When ignition modules go bad they become more sensitive to heat and fail when they get hot. Had many customers tell me on the phone their situation. Immediately, I knew what the problem was. I'd put a new ignition module on it and problem solved.

[@chipdog149]

I didn't see this in the comments.... But, I'm in Commiefornia and this from CARB "The California Air Resources Board regulations require transportation fuel producers and importers to meet specified average carbon intensity requirements for fuel. LCFS regulated fuels include natural gas, electricity, hydrogen, gasoline mixed with at least 10% corn-derived ethanol, biomass-based diesel, and propane." So we can't avoid ethanol unless we buy engineered fuel in a can. Btw, I love your channel, always good advise and content.

[@tomkorb5581]

When I’ve been filling my gas cans, I was filling them first and then topping off my car. In the future, I will fill the car first and then the small tanks. Thanks for the video and the great real-world tests. As a former fire and explosion investigator, I do have one suggestion. Always place plastic gas cans on the ground and touch the nozzle to the can when filling with gas to avoid the buildup of static charge and potential ignition by static spark.

[@davidlyne7804]

Ugh i

[@phillipsusi1791]

I can't say I have a reason for it, but I have always filled my car first, then the can. Then again, I also usually pour whatever is left in the can into the car after it has sat there for a week or two and go refill it with fresh gas, after topping off the car first. I guess that's just to keep the gas from going stale.

[@rodrogers6895]

Static electricity from a plastic gas can?

[@tomkorb5581]

@@rodrogers6895 yes, it's a lot like what happens when you rub a balloon against your hair, a carpet, or something similar. When non-conductive fluids like gasoline flow, they transfer static charge to the container. If that charge can't dissipate to ground, it builds up and can eventually spark back to the grounded fuel nozzle and cause ignition. To reduce this risk, some plastic gas cans have filler materials (like carbon black) added to make them slightly conductive so they more easily transfer the electrical charge to the ground and are less likely to spark back to the fuel nozzle. But they still have to be setting on a grounded surface. People also cause ignition by getting in their car while filling their tank. When getting back out of the car they slide off a cloth seat and build up static electricity on their body. If they don't discharge the static by touching something metal like the car body or the gas pump, a spark can jump from the their finger to the filler nozzle when they grab it. That spark can ignite the fumes coming out of the gas tank. Search "Gas Station Static Electricity Fire" on KZbin for a video of this happening. Probably more info than you wanted, but burns suck, so it's worth sharing.

[@phillipsusi1791]

@Pickle Where did this discussion of static come from? The topic was buying one grade of fuel and getting at least a good chunk of another because that is what was left in the hose from the last purchase.

[@789295]

For this very reason I always fill up my vehicle first and the lawn gas can last. Thanks Bre!

[@968porsche9]

great idea.

[@968porsche9]

at least pump a little bit into the car.

[@tynelson4672]

Thanks for solving the mystery. When I cut the grass when I was a teenager in the 70s , I remember lawn mowers working for years, no problem. And you have made me nostalgic for my father’s old, all metal gas that had a screw on lid on the end of the spout and screw on metal lid in the top with the old wooden handle. It just freaking worked. The last two mowers that I bought only lasted one season.

[@Normanek72]

This is amazing. Thank you for doing the testing. BTW I buy an after market gas can nozzle. And throw the government approved one in the recycle bin.

[@mark-1234]

As a mechanic who's worked in a number of fields, I've been aware of this for years. Just wanted to say you did a great job of explaining/exposing this. RVP and content is all over the place even without the cross contamination. And it's not just the hoses; there's filters and piping that's shared too, adding up to quite a bit of fuel. And, yeah, those gas cans piss me off too.

[@bobwilson758]

Well said sir !

[@lcee6592]

Your detective work is the difference between a good service technician / department and an ordinary one. Nice work!!! 👍

[@Chickanic]

THANKS!

[@wilpenny4318]

I used to drive a gasoline truck and it sounds like you're talking about Unocal 76 gas stations, they have two grades of gas and mix a little of both to make mid grade

[@georgepruitt637]

@@wilpenny4318 And some transports dump fuel in the wrong tanks also, which isn't addressed. Along with xtra water from refinery.

[@alb12345672]

@@wilpenny4318 There is a local place in upstate NY called Stewarts, they sell premium E0 gas in all their locations. But I guess you should put some in your car first to be sure the gallon tank gets it! The landscapers always fill their cans with that gas.

[@happyfeet231259]

You have no clue why big fuel company's doing this , Ethanol is not made voor Engines sorry....its crap , Belgium we have some gas station , with ethanol , but i avoid them much as possible , for my garden é😍quipent i use Aspen 4 stroke , and 2 strokes , you can keep it much longer than random gasoline , and it works pretty good , with one set of both i'm safe for a whole season !!

[@livewithinyourmeans]

What a great, as in helpful, production. However, I agree with you and so many who get frustrated, with governement "Help" or BS.

[@kniteprince3798]

Well done. Also a mechanic for 40 years. I knew this, and always buy premium. Alcohol in fuel is a joke, especially if you run older equipment not designed for alcohol, it is corrosive, destroys rubber parts and gaskets, and draws moisture. It is very bad for as you said, people that use something only a few times a year, and it sits a lot without being used. I pump into my truck, then fill six plus gas cans at a time, and use that fuel to mix for my weedeater, chainsaw etcetera. As a side note, you can still get a NON govt nozzle for gas cans. I have three of them laying about I swap onto my gas cans as I use them. You did well in the video! Keep up the good work!

[@naps3386]

Here in Wisconsin, a company called Kwik Trip based in LaCrosse Wisconsin is dominating the state by building many convenience/gas stations. They are HIGHLY customer responsive. I called the company when I saw a new station being built and I asked if they would install individual hoses for each grade. Not only did they install individual hoses at that station, every new station I see they have at least 2 pumps with individual hoses. They also sell Top Tier gasoline.

[@matthewrowell5973]

Wait.. there's a good company in the world? Amazing

[@bigzen69]

I hope this isn't too dumb a question but what is top-tier gasoline

[@fireballxl-5748]

@@bigzen69 Not a dumb question and thought I'd answer since it's been 2 weeks and no one replied. I don't know the answer except to say it sounds like a brand name rather than a description of high quality gasoline (which it may also be).

[@ryan92084]

@@bigzen69 top tier is a detergent standard that is supposed to be above and beyond the epa minimum you may find at budget stations.

[@bobwilson758]

Ok - Quick trip trying not to be a rip off ! Most interesting information I’ve heard in a while ! Thanks for your time and effort - Good Job . Appreciate this -

[@reinger1022]

I've always wondered about this. Thank you for the no BS information. From now on when I fill my 5 gal jug with non- ethanol, I'm gonna ask for 6 gals and put the first gallon in my truck. Thanks Brea! You rock!

[@danlux4954]

I used to do that. But now I drive a diesel.

[@WJCTechyman]

Man, we really need to get Americans to fully adopt the SI units. It's fairly simple, 5 American gallons is roughly 18 Litres and 3/4 gallons is less than three litres. This is one of the things I hate about Sta-bil is, yes, it gives you rough approximations in Litres but the instructions are clearly written for Fluid Ounces and Gallons. So the instructions come out with 30 mL to 9.5 L when we should be writing a Metric equivalent so I can easily use the right amount of Stabil for my 20 L and 5 L Sceptre fuel cans.

[@WJCTechyman]

@@danlux4954 I wish I could afford a Diesel tractor. Everything runs on gasoline that I currently own.

[@tomnoland1533]

BINGO!! My dad recently retired from small engine repair after 60 years. I always use ethanol free fuel in everything I have including vehicles. For gas cans pump about a gallon or 2 in the vehicle then fill the gas can. Very smart idea maam.

[@gspam154]

Thank you for your sacrifice. I put a regular pour spout and add a vent cap in all my plastic gas cans. So it adds $12 to the price of every gas can. Bleeping CARB.

[@scotpence6709]

I have questioned this 'one hose for all grades' system for years. Thank you for the answer, exactly what I expected is what you showed here.

[@semperfiblackjack6062]

The whole one hose started with Sunco. They used one hose to blend high test with regular to sell all the different octanes in between.

[@richinoregon]

I feel your pain about the gas can. I had to use pliers to 'destroy' the safety features on my can. I literally couldn't get anything out the way it was designed.

[@mariarusso1325]

Hi Richard how are you doing today. Hope you are having a good weather 😊

[@franklinhankel6168]

They are a giant pain in the (g)ass, literally...I try to do my part, i recycle, i try to avoid driving whenever possible, etc. Here we are.....people starving.....and we're growing corn to fuel our vehicles. WTF?

[@annymoususer677]

can't get the "Safe" gas can Nozzle into my motorcycle tank filler! it's stupid and useless

[@richinoregon]

@@franklinhankel6168 Seconding your WTF. 25 years ago-pre Internet-NPR's All Things Considered had a segment on how ethanol was the panacea to global warming. I wrote a letter (what are those, right?) which was read on the air pointing out that using high-quality agricultural land to produce fuel instead of food was just wrong (I think I used stronger words than that). I lived in Hawaii at the time and some true believer from Massachusetts went down to his local library, dug up a Honolulu phone book to get my phone number, and timed it so that he could interrupt my dinner and tell me how evil I was to consider people ahead the environment. They are a cult.

[@contractor556]

Horrible designs! The flexible ones with a simple cap st the end are the best. Never have a spill. Easy to control. Fuck the government

[@jeffreyerwin3665]

It is a no-brainer to fill your vehicle first with the 93 no-ethanol first and then fill your red gas can.

[@taxman0205]

Great video. Just for those who were wondering I had a relative that used to deliver fuel. He was told that if he was out of premium if he had regular left on the truck to dump that in the premium Do whatever he had to to make the delivery

[@arthurspooner36]

I heard about a delivery driver being ask to put the 87 octane into the gas stations 93 octane tank The driver refused because He stated it was a Federal crime to do this. Good driver!! This scam affect you in ways you don't think of? Automobile Manufacturers sell cars that state 92 octane or higher requirements. Ig your engine has a problem under warranty and they have test that will reveal a car that used cheaper 87 octane this voids your warranty and the culprits unbeknownst to you will be impossible to excuse. Our state show up at gasoline stations randomly and test the octanes

[@michaellauer3397]

For your pouring antics… Only have one word… funnel…😊 And I totally agree with how stupid the government mandated “safety” crap on our gas cans is. I’ve never spilled so much gas in my life as I have since they came out with that stupid nonsense. I’m lucky I haven’t had a fire. No telling what damage our country as a whole has suffered from them. Cool, informative video.

[@magnificenthonky]

I would have poured from the can into a larger measuring cup, then from the cup through a funnel into the test device. For precision purposes, I may be inclined to use a turkey baster type of thing, or an eyedropper that can handle gasoline (if such an animal exists).

[@joeyt5786]

I use a siphon to fill up lawn mowers, atv, small containers, pressure washer. Rarely make a mess.

[@tbelding]

I replace the nozzle with a standard nozzle, then fill the small can from a big one.

[@ThatOneGuyWithTheEye]

Or a regular gas can with a normal fucking hose?

[@tbelding]

@@ThatOneGuyWithTheEye - They don't sell them any more in many places. Those that do it's usually old stock. Due to lawyers - not the government - all the cans now have insane 'safety' features, and the 'anti-blow back' mesh. There weren't any identifiable cases of fires NOT being caused by carelessness, but the judges (lawyers) allowed the 'plaintiffs' (lawyers) to sue the gas can manufacturer for creating 'unsafe' cans that 'could' explode (if the user was an absolute moron that needed to be exploded, or someone committing suicide).

[@harryballz6358]

I always fill (2) 5gal cans and fill my small can from them. I knew last fuel pumped is left in the line but I never knew "how much" is left in the hose, pretty crazy. Again, we learn from you. Thank you!

[@pauls5745]

I resorted to basically distilling my fuel, I have a 2 cycle engine I run 1 or 2x a year. it will not tolerate any alcohol and there's no alcohol free close by, I think it's 7 miles. Alcohol is a magnet for water. This engine is in my motorized bicycle. I don't need alcohol eating the seals in my carb, or the moisture buildup if it sets a few weeks ride-ready and I take it out once more

[@stevenwilkinson8373]

@harryballz6358 ME TOO!

[@WJCTechyman]

@@pauls5745Ethanol is a magnet to water but for some reason Methanol tends to help send it on its way through the fuel system. That's what's interesting about fuel line antifreeze. A small amount added to a 20 L fuel can (a little more than 5 US Gallons) can help mitigate future frustrations of water in the fuel problems and especially in Winter.

[@sgrams3578]

Thank You! From this moment on I will pump a couple gallons into my vehicle first, I do use 5 gallon cans but usually only fill to about 4 gallons for safety and ease of use. I've thought some of the problems with the ethanol fuel could be related to the additives, not sure.

[@johnauner671]

I put a gallon in my truck and then put the ethanol-free premium in the jug. I don't have many problems with the 2 cycle engines and mowers. The new gas jugs require a young torpedo to operate - I by a straight retro spout.

[@davidlieberman6512]

2 things I want to say about this video. #1 thank you for doing this! #2 I have a gas station in my town that only sells ethanol free gas but it is a bit more expensive and it is on the other side of town. But when I fill up there when I have less than an 1/8th of a tank I notice I get about 3-4 MPG better than the 10% ethanol gas. In a vehicle on a good day with a tail wind I get about 13mpg on the highway on the 10%, on the ethanol free gas I get 16-17mpg.

[@bobdittloff5966]

I find that true with diesel fuel also, the price per gallon is not worth the loss in mpg. I avoid it as often as possible.

[@doernerrr]

Ethanol has a lower energy content than gasoline, it takes more of it to do the same amount of work as gasoline.

[@donutdan1508]

If I take my old Chevy pickup to any other station than my regular one I have to adjust my timing to keep it from spark knocking. Just a few degrees but the performance difference is noticeable, as well as the efficiency. ✌🔧🍩

[@Bellathebear777]

@@donutdan1508 There's a way to make your own fuel...5 gals at a time or ...👍 U can find a few vids.

[@stum8374]

17mpg what the hell u driving a sherman tank !!christ u yanks will put up with shit

[@kevinsbackyard]

Yes, they are blender pumps. Most modern stations just have 87 and 93/94 octane tanks. Also, if you live in a non RFG control area, they blend 10% ethanol sometimes at the loading rack to make mid grade (89) if it's an older store that has a midgrade tank. Source: me, fuel hauler for 30+ years.

[@JubileeValence]

Back in '89-'90 I'd haul out of El Segundo and Huntington Beach (hint...) and the only separation when dumping was leaded and unleaded for the 'honest' stations. Several others we'd have to ask: Which tank for this regular unleaded? They'd say: Fill the premium tank first lol. And then this diesel scam nowadays.......first product off the tower...cheapest. Kerosene, Jet. Always was, always will be. Used to be less than half the cost of the gas.... Cheers!

[@jchapman8248]

Don't know if you hauled fuel in California or not but is it true when the gas companies say they have summer and winter blends, are blowing smoke? I ask as I was told by a fuel hauler here in CA that there is no difference, just a price gouge practice in play to shaft the consumers here.

[@STho205]

Ethyl alcohol boosts the octane AntiKnock number. One way to take 86octane pure gas and turn it into 87, 89, 91, 93 octane car gas is to add more Ethyl alcohol. For such retailers the largest %ethanol in standard retail will be 93....the purest will be 87....playing between 10 and 5%. That's not true at every retailer, but often at discount stations. Another trick is to "dry" the water in the underground tanks by dumping a load of E85 into the tanks. That's not supposed to be done....but you're also not supposed to pump gasoline durectly onto the pavement to clean up oil and diesel spills at the end of the day. Some retailers do it.

[@JubileeValence]

@@jchapman8248 Yep, sure did. But ultimately who cares if you believe it or not. Your contribution to this thread/posting is thus moot. Everybody in the business knows the scams seen DAILY. Winterizing? Haha! Try: "Additives vs pipeline loading" Clue: there ARE NONE. EVER. IMPOSSIBLE. Cheers! ------------------ ps. You have ZERO cognizance of this subject yet you insist upon adding rhetoric in similar yet oblique vein. You're the very definition of RUDENESS. Right? But you'll try; they all do...yawnnnn...no harm, no foul, lazy, spiteful bullshit. Hang in there and maybe became enlightened. Better yet---get yourself a CDL ($5,000) and join us amigo! Pretty good living. Start on night shift ANYWHERE. TODAY. No more hearsay. Be the power! Cheers again!

[@JubileeValence]

@@STho205 Av Gas....omg the memories! Leaded! Unleaded! The daily/weekly/monthly price wars! Yikes!!! Cheers! ---- ps. Sorry I'm reminiscing '70s Only in America! Cheers!

[@timhanson2080]

Thanks for showing the tests. From now on i will pump some into my truck before I fill my can. As far as those gas cans go I have used those for target practice and kept all my old ones with a vent. And buy a few more at auctions.

[@MCOult]

To make it much easier, remove the spigot from your EPA-approved can; use a funnel to pour into a separate (small) container (one that is heavy enough to be stable -- glass, for instance -- not plastic, so it won't fall over); then, pour into the little plastic bottle. It's an extra step or two, but worth it just to avoid the frustration and high-blood-pressure the "environmentally beneficial" gas cans produce. Great videos! And thank your for helping me fix my Honda mower! -- Old Matt

[@dougmckenzie680]

DAM GOVERNMENT! Your talkin my language now honey ! Keep up the great detective work , we love ya !

[@contractor556]

Yes… their poor decisions and legislation radicalize more people everyday…. Excellent 😅

[@jetfixer3207]

I used to own a Harley Davidson motorcycle. (that required premium fuel) My mechanic/Tuner always told me: Never buy your gas from stations that use "Blender pumps" meaning pumps that sent every "flavor" through one hose. Always go to stations where every type has its own hose.

[@stevedimartino683]

You are so unbelievable, thank you we need more people like you around for everything else, honesty

[@glennunderwood4690]

I live on the Gulf Coast, ethanol free, sold called marine fuel. The station I use has that pump all to itself and only dispenses ethanol free. But others have theirs in the same pump stand as regular gas. You can absolutely tell the difference in the way your outboard performs. There is a certain amount of water in that fuel, thus the need for a water separator filter that works well on boats, cars are a different story. Great video people need to see.

[@JOEZEP54]

Great information! As far as the "newer, safer, environmental friendly" gas cans I spill, over flow so much more gas. These cans are more of a hazard and a hassle then anything else. Just like anything else our ' enlightened nannies " force us on us it is short sighted. A solution for one problem only to create a host of other problems. Stay well, Joe Z

[@sunbeam8866]

Post-sale, I hear there are ways to 'fix' those gas cans!

[@wallychambe1587]

@@sunbeam8866 Yes some nozzles can be "adjusted" 😁

[@funnyfarm5555]

'I am from the government, I am here to help you', not. Yes Joe, I have spilled more fuel with those new spouts so, All my gas and diesel cans get an aftermarket specific replacement spout depending on what I am using it for. I have to go a mile out of my way sometimes, but there is a station in town that sells Non Ethanol super in a separate pump and also sells off road diesel (for my Bota tractor).

[@JOEZEP54]

@@funnyfarm5555 LOL Ronnie was great, truer words were never spoken. If I could get the non ethanol gas anywhere in my area I would travel for it but just too far plus tolls & traffic. Stay well, Joe Z

[@funnyfarm5555]

@working_country ___ If you are adding the snap cap vent, be sure to drill hole out with a step drill bit; a regular drill bit pushes extra plastic to the inside and you don't get a good seal. Learned the hard way doing one and the second one came with a new spout and they said to use a step bit and it worked great.

[@riccicrozzie8204]

I'm Australian, living in Europe for 14 year's, never have I seen gas pumps like you have, each fuel type has its own nozzle/ wand.

[@Krankie_V]

Some places have separate hoses for each grade but it's becoming less and less common as time passes here in the USA

[@drunvert]

Only diesel gets its own nozzle

[@rickwhite3112]

I worked in the blending facility for a major refinery in northern California for 33 years. All flavors of gasoline, Jet fuel, and diesel. We always displaced the blend header piping (several hundred barrels) of old stock with new stock before switching over to a new blend run with different specs. If I needed a gallon of gas for my small engines at home, I would fill up my car half way, then fill up the gallon gas jug, then finish filling my car tank. This made sure my little jug got 100% of the correct gas in it. BTW… the push buttons on the gas jugs are always extra stiff. Try using a small woodworking spring clamp to hold the button down. It will save your thumbs! I use a spring clamp all the time on all 5 of my gas jugs.

[@jasonhaskin5652]

It's also possible to use the same principle behind the ethenol test to produce your own ethanol free fuel at home . Just add 1 part water to 4 parts fuel mix and let it separate . Once the fuel is transparent by and not cloudy from the water you can either syphon the fuel off the top or the water ethanol mixture off the bottom . The way the ethanol and water mix ( not a bond) is the reason ethanol fuels do not have a long shelf life. Fuels such as E85 will absorb water out of the air .

[@PT-ie2xj]

I wouldn't recommend this. Modern gasoline contains a variety of additives that serve important purposes. These include detergents that keep your engine clean, anti-corrosion inhibitors to protect your fuel system, seal preservatives to prevent fuel leaks, and lubricants to reduce friction. Siphoning off the top layer of gasoline after mixing with water may remove some of these additives along with the ethanol (depending on the additives' affinity for alcohol and water). Also, as others have pointed out, removing the ethanol decreases the octane rating. This method of getting ethanol-free gas has the potential to cause as much harm as good.

[@kperellie]

WOW! How did I not realize this was happening? I use 5 gal cans and have never had an issue, but I can definitely see how others could. And btw, I bought after-market spouts for all of my cans and they work great.

[@valeriemckay7064]

love good info

[@jdaniels1313]

At last check you could get after-market gas can spouts at Tractor Supply Co or Amazon. Just checked again, and yes, both still have the replacement spouts. Around $15 in most cases.

[@contractor556]

Back to basics! Flexible hose with simple little cap at the end. Zero spills ever, easy to control. Fuck the govt

[@kenk3102]

...great video Bre....one of your best....very informative...I recently purchased "ethanol free" from a trusted station (5 gallons) that had a dedicated hose, but it tested 10% when I got home. I took my test kit with me back to the station and showed the manager. Long story short, the delivery man put 87 octane 10% ethanol in the WRONG tank!.....ALWAYS test your "ethanol free" fuel.... 🙂

[@jim7smith]

pretty difficult to eliminate "human" error.

[@konaguzzi1]

in NZ I haven't seen a shared hose on a fuel pump in over 40 years. I would not have thought they were still a thing but for this video.

[@jamesdaves7680]

I’m using LL100 that I buy from an airport. My saws always start, even if they sit for a long time. I run LL100 with Klotz oil, my saws run great, the exhaust smells good too.

[@cedarrockcabin3633]

100%. My husband figured this out years ago when he got his Harley as it requires premium. He called the state to find out if his theory was correct & was told it was and they said exactly what you did that it is at least 1/3. Nearby there's only 1 station he will gas up at as the 1 pump is dedicated to premium. But if he's out & about & needs gas he'll ask a motorist within reach if he can pump a little gas into their car.

[@michalzielinski7504]

You gave me a laugh imagining someone coming up to me at the pump and asking me that.

[@dans_Learning_Curve]

Brilliant asking to give someone some fuel! LoL 😂😆

[@killer2600]

If someone asked me that, I'd think they're a lunatic and tell them to buzz off. I ride motorcycles and have a family of life-long Harley owners, riders, and wrenchers and not a single one is that paranoid about that little bit of "lesser" gasoline.

[@roberthansen3546]

I bought an ethanol tester on Amazon so I can test for alcohol content

[@cedarrockcabin3633]

@@killer2600 oh wow! You're so awesome.🤮

[@Farmer-bh3cg]

Thanks for the test - it's very informative. As an additional note, for those who want to, the so-called 'flame arrester' inside the can can be yanked out by the roots using needle nose pliars and/or a utility knife. The govvernmint won't stop making gas cans 'safe' until the user can't pour any gas anytime, anyhow, and anyway. You'll just get to look at the gas can with it's $5.50/gal "ethanol free" gas...

[@contractor556]

When you see their “war” on oil and gas it makes sense

[@carrolllee9972]

Agitate the fuel in the gas can, then remove the spill proof spout, pour a some fuel into a smaller, more manageable size container and then pour into the test vessel...less strain and more accuracy. Just my two-cents worth. Love your channel❤

[@CCV60202]

Thank you very much for clarifying what my fuel requirements for small equipment should be. You have also created a method to fill my fuel can in the future. I’ll always save room for some high test in my car before filling my fuel can.😊

[@_JohnRedcorn_]

Gotta say, I’ve watched quite a few of your videos now; the one that helped me the most was about diagnosing not reaching full throttle with my echo weed eater. On that note, I truly appreciate your dedication to your craft!

[@jesikasdad]

Never EVEN crossed my mind. VERY helpful information!

[@gabrielbosia1719]

Yes, you blew my mind. Thank you for going through the trouble I'm testing fuel

[@vg23air]

this is like 20 years old, glad you learned what we knew for 20 years flying ultralight planes... You can pre-test for alcohol at the gas station. Here's a review of the olive jar test for alcohol. Empty and clean a long, thin olive jar and keep the lid. (Actually, any tall, skinny container will work as long as you can see through it.) At the gas station, put some water in the jar, maybe up to about 1/4 and use a marker to mark the level of the water. Fill the jar with fuel from the pump. Put on the lid. Shake the jar and the fuel/water mix. Let the mix settle out. If the apparent water level goes up, the fuel has significant alcohol in it. Watch out for pumps that share a single hose for all their fuels. If some of those fuels have alcohol, you will get some contamination even in their no-alcohol fuels. If they have separate hoses, you can make the test before you fill your fuel cans.

[@johnchestnut5340]

Helpful hint: take the spout off the gas can. Use a funnel. Don't overfill the gas can for easier pouring.

[@MrCowering]

I get old gas cans at yard sales that are split or sun-baked and brittle. Swap the nozzle onto a new can, smash new type government nozzle. Pouring problem solved

[@paulhudson231]

You can also buy replacement nozzles for the "older" gas cans that just happen to also fit many current cams. Problem solved.

[@nunabuisness4282]

YES he gets it, JUST USE A FUNNEL !

[@williamtrenary263]

That is the best advice I believe I have ever heard of. To keep from mixing fuels is a chore that we consumers should not have to fool with. Thanks for the info. Greatly appreciated.

[@vaportrail6315]

How could a person not come to this dedication. Back when they only had reg or prem I knew this

[@danmac2925]

WAWA gas stations here in Florida use separate hoses for non-ethanol gas. I test it occasionally and it really is ethanol free. I use it in my airplane, boat, motorcycle, and mower.

[@michaelotto8696]

Spot on. Especially nasty if you're getting that E85. One more fuel buying tip: Always avoid the station if you see the tanker there pumping or just leaving. Filling those tanks riles up any crap that might be in the tank (and don't believe there isn't any) and you'll be pumping that trashy stuff into your cans or tanks. I once had an auto fuel filter completely gummed up by doing this. Learned my lesson...

[@michaelotto8696]

@notexpatjoe I understand that. However, I once managed to get a fill so bad it plugged the filter on the vehicle so badly I barely made it home. Had barely 20K on the od. I thought something terrible was going on the way the truck was buckin' and humpin'. Nope Just a plugged fuel filter. So the assumptions that filters are always in good condition or even present are contingent on getting usable fuel. Otherwise, you may be walking or calling.

[@DonDegidio]

Hi Bre, I saw a video where they used the same technique to make E10 into ethanol free by using a 5 gallon container with a bottom tap. Sufficient water was poured in to capture the ethanol and it was agitated and left for several hours. Then the tap was opened to drain off the bottom mixture and a little gasoline. The rest of the container was now ethanol free. You and your family stay safe.

[@halledwardb]

Yes, I saw that video as well. I'm going to go to this method, but I am also going to test my area, and my improved fuel as well.

[@Ronstar911]

Don't forget that doing this ( removing the ethanol) decreases your octane by a significant amount. You may need to add non ethanol octane booster to run the stripped out fuel succsessfuly.

[@halledwardb]

@@Ronstar911 Great point!

[@1Cobranut]

@@Ronstar911 Very true. The ethanol is a very cheap octane booster, so the oil companies will skimp on using normal compounds to restore octane. You could well destroy your motor from detonation by doing this.

[@senatorjosephmccarthy2720]

​@@Ronstar911. True and Important. Too low octane will cause predetonation, which will ruin an engine. Far better to find a station selling the gas you need.

[@georgejones-nz1qg]

Ay Gawd, makes sense. Glad I tuned into this. Best squirt the first half gallon into your car.

[@gladysorama]

So glad I have a station near me that has an ethanol free separate hose pump!!! Thanks for sharing!

[@johno3888]

I absolutely without fail only use Ethanol-free fuel on a dedicated pump from two locations in my county of Florida. Both locations are dedicated pumps having dedicated tanks for EF. I will endeavor to check one day to verify I get what I am paying for. Never knew to do this before so thanks Chickanic, you are a new favorite YT channel for me now.....🤩😍🥰

[@larrypalmer2415]

The station I go to sells "recreational gasoline" 92 octane, no ethanol. I have thought of the hose containing other grades, but when I went to get fuel, noticed that the recreational fuel has its own hose! Good! I have never had a problem, even from one year to the next. I now buy it for all my small engines...Love your channel!

[@iffykidmn8170]

If it is a single pump you should be fine, if the pump has multi grade the pump has a distribution block and a single pump pumping all the blends so you would still get what remains in the pump and distribution block. single hose is better than multi grade but still not perfect.

[@billwilson3609]

The hoses may only hold 1 to 2ounces of fuel. The pumps are designed so any fuel left in the hose is siphoned back into the storage tank once the pump is shut off. You can verify that by laying the nozzle on the ground and pulling the handle after shutting off the pump.

[@robertheinkel6225]

@@billwilson3609 if that was the case, fuel would not immediately flow out of the nozzle when you refuel your car.

[@scottmattila8318]

Great real-world testing. Thanks for the extra effort and demo!

[@davidrowe4006]

Thanks! From now on whenever I get premium for my boat or gas cans, I'll always run a gallon in vehicle 1st

[@DM-kv8mn]

Ethanol fuel is great for corn farmers and small engine mechanics. Since it's so much less effecient than regular gasoline, it's also a great way to support your local gas station.

[@perrysmith8743]

Yes n everyone has water pouring outta there exhaust pipes from corn fuel

[@DavidJones-me7yr]

Don't worry, the farmers aren't getting that rich on corn! I know!

[@bradleywatt9769]

Not all are, but some definitely are. I’m in farm country & have a hobby farm. Almost all the farmers around me have multiple large pole barns, multiple leased $250-400k machines, the entire families drive brand new trucks, new clothes, very nice homes. Their acreage value has increased 25% in 2-3yrs. The depreciate & write off almost everything they buy in a normal year. They don’t fill up at the pumps unless they travel. Crop insurance is not that expensive. Look up USDA farm subsidies for your county & prepare to be shocked. Yes, they only claim a meager income...but there are pole barns with housing/kitchens/showers/bedrooms nicer than many homes. No sour grapes or comparisons...but they live the high life not getting rich...then pass millions of dollars of acreage to the next generation via trusts...or covert to C-corps. It’s legally working the system...but few are living a tough life...generally the guys with only a few hundred acres & old equipment.

[@andrewstambaugh240]

Thanks, i thought the same thing about getting premium fuel for my motorcycle. The tank isn't that many gallons, so if you are only preemptively topping off, *you could be getting closer to 89 instead of 92,* which i wondered if anyone has had knock/blown an engine over. Which also means it's to your advantage to top off less and let the tank get lower.

[@Krankie_V]

It's almost like you gotta wait for someone to pull up in a sports car and fill that up with premium, and then jump in line after that person 😅

[@davidstice5387]

It could be to your advantage to fill up more often if yo buy cheep gas and get behind a jaguar eve time you fill up your go cart..

[@eloiseharbeson2483]

EFI completely eliminates this problem. The only thing you may notice is poorer gas mileage. Hopefully, anyone who is running a carbureted motorcycle has not leaned the jetting for performance without being able to recognize the signs of lean running. Anyone with a carbureted motorcycle that has NOT leaned the high speed mixture for performance has nothing to worry about.

[@PBVader]

Most efi bikes are just fine with 87/89, says so in your manual. The problem is the 10/15/85% ethanol sucking up moisture into suspension. I usually look for 91 no corn with a dedicated hose, simply because I got a load of water in my tank which made it stumble till I got it home and disassembled it. I found water to the top of the in tank filter pump, I found water in the p-trap shaped fuel hose, I reverse flushed the injectors and got a few drops out of there. About a quart of water is all it took to ruin an out of state ride. I apply this knowledge to small engines too.

[@raywigton]

Thanks for sharing. Appreciate people who do their homework. I thought everybody knew this. Always fill your tank and then fill your gallon can that doesn't have one of those "safety caps" on it with a gallon so that the pump is clean of ethanol for use with your chain saw. I just use my nose too, I didn't realize their was a test kit.

[@rickeykeeton4770]

Glad you posted this. I have wondered about the gas left in the hose from last customer myself having managed a gas station many years ago. I remember having a few customers drain the hose after turning the gas off. The next time the pump was used, the amount on the pump would jump several cents filling the hose up before the customer started getting any gas. I have also thought maybe I should pump some in my vehicle before putting any in my tank I use for my small engines, but really had no idea I would need to pump a gallon or more.

[@spmince]

Interesting information. I also live in a small town with only 3 gas stations. I noticed the two that I normally go to recently replaced their pumps with pumps that have a completely separate hose for what they label 100% gasoline. Sounds like it’s a good thing.

[@michaelnorth5215]

Have never seen a true ethanol-free gasoline, since the ethanol is used as a replacement for the now-banned additive that replaced tetraethyl lead as an octane booster. Without a booster, fuel is around 60 octane.

[@wallychambe1587]

@@michaelnorth5215 Have two Murphy stations in my area(15 and 20 miles from me) now one has 87 octane non ethanol and the other has 90 Octane non ethanol!

[@michaelnorth5215]

@@wallychambe1587 Any clue what is used for an octane booster? Can't say I ever heard of the brand, but probably not NW Ohio🤔

[@wallychambe1587]

@@michaelnorth5215 Murphy stations are usually at Walmarts, the refiners process the naptha more to get the higher octane. The Ethanol free gas is the 93 or 95 octane gas before they put the ethanol in. So it is 87 to 90 octane before they add Ethanol.

[@eloiseharbeson2483]

There seems to be only one in my neighborhood that uses a separate hose for the non-ethanol gasoline. That's where I will be buying my non-E fuel.

[@MikeInExile]

Spot on. This is why I always pump a few gallons of fuel into my _car_ first before filling up my gas can. But it doesn't really matter because I remove the ethanol from the fuel _anyway_ before I use it. (It's _really_ easy to do!) 🙂

[@lisat9707]

How???

[@MikeInExile]

@@lisat9707 You're not the first person who wanted to know how to do that! I wrote a brief procedure outlining how it was done, but it got promptly removed, and I'm not willing to go through all the trouble again if it's just going to be deleted for whatever reason. Just do a search right here on KZbin and you'll find more that you'll ever need!

[@smartcarpie]

@@lisat9707Get a 5 or 6 gallon carboy jug (I need to get a six so I can run 5 gal at a time with the 20% ratio). Put about a gallon of water in the jug. I add a little red food coloring to make it real easy to see. Fill the rest with pump gas. Shake it all up. You can watch it separate before your eyes. Mark the jug with a sharpie if you want to see just how much ethanol settles out. Siphon the pure stuff off the top. All my carburetor troubles seem to have magically gone away since I started running this, machines run cooler and smoother. Very easy starts. For reference I own 16 small engines I run this stuff in. It’s wonderful and so worth the few minutes of effort.

[@tomwi53092]

Back in my motorcycle days all of us riders knew about this. It does make a difference if you only have a 2-3 gallon gas tank. But back then, we didn't have to worry about E15 or E85 in the hose, so it's an even bigger deal now.

[@dennisgarryowen8885]

The EPA mandated fuel filler nozzles often CAUSE fuel spills. That's my opinion. Thanks for the video, it was very helpful.

[@rorannerusan]

Hi Bre you can always pour some gas into an easier to use small container such as a measuring type of cup or even a glass jar to make pouring gas easier for video’s like this. Then there is no struggling with the gas can and no spillage.

[@steveoshortt4791]

She wants to highlight the bullshit. Doing that will not demonstrate how much of a pain those bullshit nozzles are.

[@msudawg1997]

Yeah I found myself yelling at the TV - "would you just put some in a measuring cup to pour it into the test bottle!". Even using my old-school vented gas can without the gov mandated garbage spout I'd have done it that way.

[@Bushradical]

great channel!

[@slshanklin]

A baster, syringe, or other similar fluid tube would be an easy way to move fuel into the test bottle without spilling. Another option would be to have someone hold the bottle and a funnel. There are probably a few other ways, too. Great video.👍