Gabby & Rachel Tell All About Bachelorette Finale

[@neo5kali]

Speaking as an older female who works in construction and has a similar work/education to Tino, it's typical for people in our industry to keep journals and write daily reports as these are referred to should there be litigation. Considering that he only talks about sports with his dad and works in a male oriented industry, I got the sense Tino doesn't have much good experience communicating with women other than viewing them as sex/romantic or marital prospects. He comes across like a lot of guys I went to college with who are competitive and geared towards winning at all costs, and looking good in the public. They are rarely vulnerable and so this show seems to have undermined his sense of security and adaptive behavior. Rachel's relationship-communication style is the polar opposite and much more geared towards the expression of emotions and talking things through. And so these major communication-style differences, though attractive in the beginning, can turn into big problems down the road.

[@judithbukelwagodongwana6493]

Love your articulation it's spot on

[@Mercury688]

Actually I disagree. Rachel is one of the most immature bachelorettes I’ve seen on here and she saw the way Tino communicated when he ignored her concerns about his parents. This show is too fake to put in so much though into how you think a contestant communicates based on knowing his job title

[@alswonderland]

@@Mercury688 lol Rachel was supposed to be all knowing about Tino’s behavior based on one sentence that on his perception that his family loved her?? She was cut off questioning him bc he followed up almost immediately that he was in love with her. She had blinders on bc she was so excited to hear that. Didn’t you also see with her parents that Tino has an uncanny ability to communicate nothing bat his eyes and it’s perceived as if he said something of substance?? There is no depth to him that I could see, he was absolutely the wrong guy for Rachel and she just fell for his looks and surface as if there was more there. There’s no onion to peel yet everything to cry about.

[@alswonderland]

👏👏yes! Well said! ​ Tino has an uncanny ability to communicate nothing bat his eyes and it’s perceived as if he said something of substance. There’s no real depth there which isn’t his fault based on his family’s communication. Absolutely the wrong guy for Rachel and she just fell for his looks and surface as if there was more there.

[@jo8448]

Well put!!! He shouldn't of cheated in any way shape or form but just watching it was clear as day he's never had to articulate his feelings or explain his actions a day in his life lol

[@Latrise]

@ 36.52 why would you call the other woman a " random whore bag". It was TINO's responsibility to protect Rachel's heart and not to cheat. That woman probably didn't know he was engaged. WE HAVE TO STOP BASHING other women, it's honestly a messed up thing to say.

[@aucjsnancjsjjv7005]

she was Tino’s old friend from before the show. she knew him prior and knew he was on the show so she most likely knew he was engaged.

[@margothenry6698]

Officer this is the random whore bag, we got her

[@sarahm9968]

The way that commentator used denegrating terms about multiple people throughout the segment is not ok and not very profesional at all.

[@joannas2533]

@@sarahm9968 I understand where you are coming from, but the podcast is "Chicks" in the Office, they're already starting from a slang perspective

[@partialartsblackbelt8384]

Gabby and Erich imitating the peacocks had me smiling so big

[@jcmartinez4536]

I love how close Rachel and Gabby are. They really seem to be great friends.

[@Stircrazyy10]

What if the issue was Tino's father and maybe they struggled over him not accepting Rachel and that is why she said Tino do you really want to bring this up knowing it would affect his family? Why is it always Rachel's fault. Everyone is coming down on her so hard and unless we know everything that happened we shouldn't be so quick to blame EITHER of them!

[@drogers]

First time viewer. Please let your guests speak. There was so many times I couldn't hear what was said because so many of you were talking at the same time. Loved seeing Rachel and Gabby. I'm sure doing this press is not always easy for them.

[@ze89674]

Rachel sounds exhausting! I don't mean to pile it on, but she broke up with Aven and Zack on really bad terms. She plays victim anytime anyone says/does something that is slightly out of her comfort zone. I didn't like Tino, but I feel bad for him now.

[@yappydabbad9323]

Rachel is by far the worse bachelorette. Absolute ditz and illogical reasoning. She basically chose the guy she was most physically attracted to and got burned and wanted to whine on tv. Then she bullies tino with Jesse. Just POS humans

[@amandabanana1243]

Agreed! Tino cheating is not okay, but damn, she was not listening to him….

[@TitiJo]

I agree. What’s interesting is how Rachel seemed anxious about NOT doing what Clayton did to her around the same time in the process and that’s JUST what she did. It seemed she shifted gears AND attitude towards Zach evident to us listening to her condescending tone w/ him morning after AND how she viewed Aven speaking firmly and directly as “yelling”.. 🙄 so I wouldn’t doubt she’d have faulty communication w/ Tino - who btw was an OBVIOUS RED FLAG to me the ENTIRE time! 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@Alykat736]

I wasn’t going to say anything bc I dont want it to be taken negatively it’s just that there’s so much missed when you all are talking at the same time over each other.

[@monetmd8024]

There was an After The Final Rose a few years ago where Rachel Lindsay was brought out to speak against bullying. The franchise seems to be hypocritical in that they tend to be doing bullying or at least allowing it.

[@monetmd8024]

I double checked, and it was on the Women Tell All of Peter's season.

[@lindaantebi955]

A lot of bullying in Matt James’ season. Katie was the anti bullying hero💛

[@tikigyrl79]

Rachel seemed so fixated on a proposal..especially when it came to Aven. She broke up with him because he wasn’t ready to propose. What about the connection and getting out in the real world and see how the relationship goes outside the cameras seems more mature and reasonable to ask and want.

[@user-nq7lr8fy8p]

They were both pushing a proposal. Gabby sent two guys home because they didn’t want to get proposed (Johnny and Jason). And Erich didn’t either but he was the only one left.

[@kdr11112]

PLEASE stop talking over your guests…. So hard to watch because we can’t hear so much of what they are saying due to interruptions.

[@annielawn9531]

great interview Ria & Fran!!! You asked all the questions I was dying to know about last night watching the finale!

[@Alykat736]

I wish you’d ask the question We all have - why were they having a hard time , what was it , what was going on what was being done about it etc… that lead him to be so distraught over the relationship & fall for a kiss with another woman. That’s never ok but there was definitely something bad between him and Rachel for awhile .

[@22amboo]

I think they said the issues started when the season aired, so im guessing Tino dealt with jealousy

[@that1sha405]

@@22amboo I thought Rachel said in AFR that it was stuff SHE was dealing with? I don't know but I'm curious. I think Tina's dad will spill the beans eventually

[@kdr11112]

Rachel said there was a lot of stuff she was dealing with that had nothing to do with their relationship. Just by watching her I can tell she has a lot of issues and she definitely needs to be in therapy. Sadly based on a lot of former contestants comments after they saw the finale, especially men from the show feel like Tino is probably mentally damaged from what they did to him and they hope that he has a good therapist and good family support because he’s going to need it. I’m disgusted with ABC, the bachelorette and Jesse Palmer. Bringing Aven out was the worst thing that I’ve seen since season one and I’ve watched every single year. They could’ve at least let Tino get off the stage… just disgusting! Rachel is totally mentally and emotionally high maintenance, she needs to take a step back and get off TV. Neither one of those girls should’ve been the lead because they have too much mental and emotional damage from their past. Yes Tino was totally wrong for kissing another girl… But what really happened behind the scenes that put him in the headspace to where he reached out to another girl? That’s what I want to know.

[@Alykat736]

@@kdr11112 exactly, all of what you pointed out -spot on! One thing I’ll add that I’m I really turned off by & I know others must be too -how this franchise is always trying to get us to be against someone , to pick a side…we are not that immature! I’m sure some ppl are in that lower state but many of us don’t do life like that .

[@Alykat736]

@@22amboo unfortunately Rachel was having a hard time during the season too, we all watched that occurring. She admits it too. Tino noted in the finale show it got worse for her once the show started airing . But I bet he also didn’t do well watching her connect with the other guys as it was seen on tv 💡 So I guess that’s the answer to my question just without the specifics.

[@autumnfaith4601]

I love Gabby’s yeahs!😂

[@AnthonyLopez-ib9gr]

If Rachel and Aven start dating after this, I don't think it will last. Aven will definitely stick around the Bachelor world in some capacity for a bit. I won't be surprised if he goes to Paradise this season. Fans seem to like him.

[@nk47100]

Rachel showed up in the promo for Bachelor in Paradise too. So, I’m confused about the timing of all of it.

[@livvecchio]

@@nk47100 rachel only showed up for a one off most likely. Not going to be like becca

[@nk47100]

@@livvecchio That makes sense

[@SophiBalerdi]

Say what you want about Rachel... but Tino cheated. Regardless of what you feel about how she handled herself... she was cheated on by her FIANCE.

[@evelynneleven]

Yes yes yes! That shit HURTS. Most of us have been thru it that’s why I’m so surprised so many people think it’s not a big deal! Not in these comments under this video but I’ve been seeing it so much!

[@yappydabbad9323]

Yeah and he apologized repeatedly for it and Rachel couldn’t deal with it. You already broke up with him so what more do you want him to do. Was it okay for Rachel and Jesse to humiliate Tino live on tv?

[@yume816]

He gave you the answer, Rachel that you keep demanding . You just didn’t want the answer to make you look bad. You need more personal growth and reflection.

[@asolarsystem]

Just constructive criticism, but you guys have to stop speaking over each other/at the same time someone else is talking. I couldn’t understand multiple parts of the interview when there were 4 people talking at once. Otherwise a great interview.

[@elljay700]

The talking over each other - unbearable.

[@maggiemolnar3456]

Can we as a society retire the phrase, “sloppy seconds”? It’s disgusting and extremely misogynistic. Rachel is not above criticism, but acting like her or any woman’s worth is decreased by her relationship with a man is tired, boring, and just unintelligent at this point.

[@reganpurser4909]

Me not watching a single clip of the bachelorette watching this lmao

[@machodgdon]

I don’t know though the fact that Erich got to hide behind his Instagram post regarding the blackface just dosent sit right with me

[@skylarreilly576]

i feel like fran and ria barely let them talk!! kept interrupting

[@meganmcdonald376]

I think he had the notebook to explain how he was feeling and what his state of mind was to make him feel like they were over. I’m not defending what he did he did that and it was wrong but she did ask him multiple times to explain why he did it so I think the notebook was there to help him explain how he was feeling and I just don’t think he is good under pressure in these kind of moments. And as with a lot of the bachelor contestants they are not very mature, and don’t how to navigate hard times in their relationship. I think both Tina and Rachel have a lot of growing to do before they are ready to be engaged to anyone.

[@Amber-Maze]

This is so difficult to listen to because the two hosts won't stop talking over each other. Especially the person with the red hair. This is my first time listening to their podcast, do they always talk over each other?

[@alswonderland]

Based on hometowns alone we could see that Tino has an uncanny ability to communicate nothing bat his eyes and get what he wants. It’s perceived as if he says something of substance but it’s not. When he told Rachel his P’s loved her and she was like ???? he just changed the subject and told her he loved her-to win the conversation. That’s what he knows to do and seems like he needed to feed his ego kissing this other girl when things weren’t going well w/Rachel. They didn’t know each other AT ALL, Rachel was whipped on him and blind to all the 🚩🚩🚩we all saw. I feel for Rachel and not throwing shade at her she was just too young and emotionally immature for the responsibility of Bachelorette-even her family knew and questioned if she could handle it. I’m sure Bach exec. producers decided to have her as the 2nd bachelorette so they could easily manipulate one since they couldn’t if it was only Gabby. QUEEN Gabby who calls it how it is w/o filters. Beyond happy for her and Erich❣️

[@lifehealingmagic]

Both girls are wonderful humans. Loved them the whole way through!!

[@sydneyv.7798]

Love Rachel so much. She’s so strong and such an inspiration to women to stick up for ourselves. Also Aven is a class act.

[@YJSBMMAMRA]

Kind of excited to see how it will go. No matter if they end up dating or just end up as friends, I will support regardless.

[@timhendson2550]

I wish they went in greater detail about her connection with Jason was it strong did he dm her?

[@Hannah.2125]

I don't know if you guys will see this as I'm commenting late, but I just wanted to give some constructive criticism. In my opinion, the host in the black tank top spoke a bit too much during the interview part. I'm not trying to be mean, but I'm watching the interview to hear Gabby and Rachel's perspectives, not the host's. I don't think she was annoying or her points were bad/wrong, but she also has the whole podcast to give her own perspective and opinions and I would like Rachel and Gabby to shine more :)

[@sweetlikez]

Tino was gaslighting. He can't admit or held accountable so he needed to put down Rachel to make himself feel good. Tino is a loser. I am so glad Rachel never reunited with him. She should have eliminated him since hometown dates. He will never say he is sorry with intention. He is who he is. Can't change him. Glad that she wanted to know why he did what he did it for clearly, but he was not having it. I hope that Rachel finds peace and move on. Aven was the best for her. I really hope they're still dating. I am glad that Rachel reflected back and understood Aven's point. I am happy for Gabby. Great interview here!

[@yappydabbad9323]

He constantly said he accepts all responsibilities for his actions what are you smoking. The real losers are Rachel and Jesse for bullying tino live on tv.

[@sweetlikez]

@@yappydabbad9323 Yes, he did "apologized" but clearly his intentions were not real to me. He kept *circling back to blaming her that made it look it it was her fault to why he cheated on her.* I was I cannot defend a man who behaved like Tino like that. Regardless of they set him up, it doesn't erase his actions. What we saw on that finale, was what I saw from the day he was on the show. There were so many red flags that made me wish that Rachel would see them and not give him the rose. His parents were rude to Rachel and I could go on. How about how he got upset when he didn't get a card and he became bit obsessive during this season. But Tino seems like a guy who will get upset when things do not go his way and he will continue to use something against you to make you feel guilty for something you didn't do all because you disagree with him. His way or the highway. Real men don't do that. I'm glad that he cheated on her because it shows how selfish he is. I do not think they were bullying Tino they were mirroring his intentions and who he is. I thought that Rachel needed closure and she was not getting it from him - that is why she kept asking him but what she should have done is to let it go and close that chapter. Not every closure is successful. Some people just won't give you the answers and you just need to let the answer be for what it is. Rachel should have just said, "Clearly, we are not understanding each other and I do not think your intentions are right. I appreciate your apology, but I'm closing this chapter." Rachel does not have the type of words Gabby would have used, but Rachel was very emotional and hurt. We all saw her cry and so this is the FIRST time we've seen Rachel actually saying what she said without walking away crying. This is why I don't think she was bullying. Just because they had communication or listening issues does not mean he was being bullied. Tino got a way in twisting words and we all saw he misinterpreted Rachel's point. People need to not glorify toxic relationships and confuse it with love. Tino seems like a guy who everybody is afraid because of his anger and make you feel like you're an issue if you don't agree with you or if you try to hold him accountable for his behaviours or lies. I'm happy she isn't with him. I saw this on his parents hometown date and I see why he is the way he is. He won't change. It is what it is. Rachel has moved on and Tino moved on as well. Life is short. I wish Rachel the best with Aven.

[@mdsagould]

Rachel was the gaslighter. She kept saying, "he never apologized" when we had seen him apologize at least 3 times. She kept asking him why he did what he did and when he tried to explain it wasn't a good enough answer for her. He said more than once , "I take full responsibility". He was sorrowful for what he'd done and wanted to try to work things out.

[@ThatsMyBlackOpinion]

Omg 4 people all talking over each other is sooo annoying.

[@Lulu-kt6gr]

One more thing: if anyone can answer why Erich is getting off the hook for the texts he sent this girl AFTER filming ended, please let me know. Apparently he sent her something that said “the show is not real. I think about you often and you are a great person…“ I don’t know. That seems a little shady to me

[@Julietavolcano]

Apparently they talked about it before the news came out and he explained it to her and they just take it out I guess.

[@Libby-wy1qq]

He didn’t say anything about the show not being real after. His dad was about to pass and all he said to her was that he was sorry for what he did and he thinks about her everyday (which is still not great)

[@isaposse2281]

I believe the Adam Levine thing is 100000% true. He's slid into one of my friend's DMs quite a few times

[@timhendson2550]

I wish they asked about Jason

[@ginah2222]

Obsessed with engagement

[@katieetylerkev]

This may be an unpopular opinion, but I think y'all are being a little too hard on Tino.

[@kdr11112]

I totally agree!

[@Paisley_1313]

Great Interview- really enjoyed it!😊

[@raphaelathebeauty]

That was refreshing ✨🤍. Great job ladies

[@meganmcdonald376]

And yes I agree the Avon confrontation in front of Tino was cruel and I wish the show wouldn’t go there it was awkward and not good television in my opinion

[@CM-up1lv]

No, I think Rachel was right to feel how she did with Avon in the moment. They just said that they wanted an engagement at th end because it was symbolic of commitment. That’s what they were there for not a boyfriend… also he told her one thing and her family another so that’s not cool. If he changed his mind he should have told her first not tell the family first. So she had every right to feel off about it!

[@SydneyKong]

“Yay me” me thinking about London tipton when she says that

[@Samanthaaaa778]

Gabby is awesome!!

[@evelynneleven]

There’s no way Sumner didn’t know Adam was still very much married in the entire year they were having an affair. It goes both ways they are both gross. You telling me she never went to his VS models IG to check on her or see what was going on with him come onnn. You guys are right they’re both wrong wrong wrong.

[@evelynneleven]

@@maester7778 I said they were both in the wrong. Adam is disgusting, what kind of mindset could you possibly be in to even ask his ex mistress a question like that. He gave me bad vibes ever since he was on the voice and told Melanie Martinez he would put her on his label but never did… all around sleeze ball. I don’t think sumner is innocent either, she’s got some growing up to do.

[@violet5776]

I actually love Sean and Catherine to be honest 😬

[@ginnypaul2149]

I think she as Bern seeing When and still is. I think she goes on BIP and tells everyone how happy she is.

[@darlenechartier9527]

Loved this episode!! The four of you together was fantastic!!

[@BringBackMyYesterdaybyDee]

Tino's journal is disturbing to me. Is he planning on writing a book about his experience with The Bachelorette?

[@SydneyKong]

In her second video she was like I shouldve questioned it further. And I’m watching the video being like if I were you I would’ve questioned it from the beginning because he’s married. Also I wouldn’t have engaged in the messages and just stopped talking to him from the beginning because he’s married and I’m not a homewrecker. Like does this ig model not have morals ?!! Like huh ?!?

[@thevrynprodigy]

Holy crap do people who do podcasts not get taught to stop talking when other people start talking? Lol it's interviewing 101. I'm just shocked at the amount of talking over each other going on in the interview portion. It's like the SNL skit of the View.

[@mariezimmermann5729]

Great interview!

[@kalidevi26]

Hey Fran! we have the same birthday!!! fella Virgo! I understand now why I love you so much... virgos are a different breed of humans!

[@jennes1442]

Tino wanted out. He kissed someone else as a way to end it and be the bad guy instead of embarrassing the lead. It is sad any way you look at it.

[@BeautyXXBrittany]

SHE DIDNT POST IT HER FRIEND DID!!!!!! THE ADAM LEVINGE stuff!!!! SHE shared it WIT A FRIEND SHE THOUGHT SHE COULD TRUST, CLEARLY NOT!!!!!! THE FRIEND POSTED IT NOT SOMNER!!!!!

[@lauraconlon9800]

My birthday is the 20th too! Happy Birthday to you Fran‼️🎉🎂🥳🎁🎈

[@tasbar7743]

Kelly have you ever been on the podcast with Nick Viall?? I feel like you would be a good combo for a guest appearance giving your opinions. You keep it real and I love it lol. Seems like it would work well to give balance to the things he says over there. I do like his podcast as well though. Good job ladies 👏🏽🌹

[@julietteSoul]

The kiss is not the main issue. It is everything surrounding it. We dont know what really happened .

[@purple_giraffe24]

I just subscribed… 🎉🎉 !

[@Mike_Ferraro402]

Phenomenal episode! Happy birthday Fran 💜⚡️

[@nicholeebabyy]

I’m a sour candy gal too! Love the gift giving ❤ Happy birthday Fran! 🎉

[@mdsagould]

Tino dodged a bullet.

[@YJSBMMAMRA]

I swear if the person he was on the phone is with the girl or realitysteve, I would be fuming even more!

[@frankieowens4707]

It made me sad that Gabby's response about her gorgeous engagement 💍 ring was, "He didn’t pay for it." I do love her sense of humor usually, though she could have at least acknowledged that he did a great job selecting a ring for her. Tino is a sad, sad man who needs help. Rachel had a hard time throughout the season. Praying she finds love in the future.

[@kalidevi26]

The level of disappointment I have from Adam Leviene is the deceit that he was trying to create for himself an image of a guy who respects women. So it's just another sleazy way to make them fall ... if you are a known womanizer, fine... then women will know to watch out from you.. but to gain someone's trust and then cheat them is pure evil.

[@yappydabbad9323]

There’s a reason Rachel is single. She knew that Jesse would bring out aven and wanted to humiliate tino on live tv and looked happy about it. Straight bullies.

[@ashleyw.6702]

You can learn from The View about how to make sure that you're not all talking over each other, and especially your guests.

[@PBarr416880]

And it’s my birthday today and I’m stuck at home with Covid. 😢😢

[@tatumpowell504]

U guys okay? lol this episode is so heated

[@jadechaya9025]

Ooh I know Ria is mad at Fran for bringing the black face thing up after listening to Cutting Stems 😅

[@monicamendoza4002]

I love Rachel, she seems to be willing to grow with the experiences she’s been through.

[@ginah2222]

Why couldn’t Erich do press so what if it’s just the 3 of them

[@heathermc5557]

You two are great!! So excited to have the Bach Ladies on!

[@CUDDLES55]

Gabby probably makes Erich feel good about himself the way she treats him maybe Amanda didn't do that for Erich.

[@ginnypaul2149]

Funny how Rachael just said she is moving to California. Aven is from there....ummmmmm

[@YJSBMMAMRA]

Hmmm…where in california is she moving too?

[@PureSparkles22]

I think they're gonna stay together too

[@Stircrazyy10]

That text that said he wanted to name his kid after her did not have his verified account so we don't even know if it was him. Regardless he texted her while being married and that's wrong but we don't know if it was texting alone or physical as well. We need to be careful what we say if we don't have all the evidence/proof. It will be up to Behati to decide how to handle this. This idiot put it out there not thinking about Behati and what it would do to her especially while pregnant and how bad this kind of stress being out in the public could harm her and the baby. This girl should have messaged her privately and showed her the texts instead of blasting it on social media for added clout. I hope Behati and her children will be ok :(

[@SexAndCandyHair92]

Adam is a known cheater. I think he's cheated on Behati in the past or at least did some shady stuff behind her back and she knew about it. It's her choice at the end of the day if she's willing to stay with him or not, but I'm hoping she leaves him. I know she's pregnant and that makes things even more stressful. I feel really bad for her. She is the only victim in this but I have always gotten shady vibes from Adam Levigne.

[@kdr11112]

😡😡😡 Sick of the over an hour long Rachel bashing Tino. Yes Tino was wrong… however she kept saying he didn’t apologize and I heard him do it multiple times, then again through a letter he wrote, and again on AFR yet she still kept saying I want an apology… WTH? Rachel is mentally emotionally high maintenance. No guy is ever going to be good enough for her. Her family is way too involved in her relationships. She bullied Tino for over an hour and then HOW DISGUSTING Of ABC and the bachelorette franchise and Jessie Palmer to walk Aven out (I don’t blame him… Bachlorette/abc is to blame) on the stage with Tino still sitting there after he was bullied and bashed for over an hour. If you go back and look at former contestants there are several out there that said that how they treated Tino was mental abuse and he could suffer because of what they did to him. Other former men on the show said they hope he has a good therapist and supportive family. A lot of former bachelor nation contestants are speaking out against how ABC handled the situation last night. It was the most disgusting thing I have seen since year one when I started watching. Rachel is also never gonna find “the perfect man” which is what she’s really looking for. She will be single for a very long time. I was disgusted by the way she was twisting her words and trying to get Tino constantly confused and how many times can the guy apologize yet she keeps saying I want an apology. However, there were certain conversations she did not want him to bring up publicly because she did say a lot of things privately, “I can’t love you anymore” “I won’t wear my ring”, etc… but she didn’t want us to hear those comments which I’m sure put Tino in a bad headspace as to where their relationship stood. (I feel she has just as much if not more fault in why this relationship went wrong… Even though Tino was wrong for kissing another girl) that she didn’t want to be known, but she had no problem bringing out what he said and gaslighting him over private things he said. Why was Rachel in therapy for “other things “, why was she struggling that she said had nothing to do with her relationship with Tino… what was going on in their relationship before Tino was kissing another girl… I can guess, and I think it has a lot to do with Rachel‘s need to be in control of every single thing, low self esteem and insecurity. These are the things we need to know. Rachel… Go home and do not come back. I know you’re gonna be on BIP FOR A SMALL ROLE, but after that you need to disappear. Neither one of these girls should have been the lead on the show… Way too much emotional and mental problems with both of them. Shame on you ABC and the bachelorette‼️‼️😡

[@SydneyKong]

It’s sumner stroh

[@PineappPae]

Fucking love gab 🥺💙

[@audradaughtry7762]

Please learn that verse is a poem. The word you’re looking for is versus.

[@OctoberGirl16]

Isn’t this the same thing ARod did.

[@carolinamartinez1968]

Definitely not a fan of gabby anymore since she doesn’t seem to address Erich’s blackface controversy. He hasn’t even apologized about it, if that were me I would be embarrassed my significant other would do something like that. Sure she isn’t the one that put in the blackface but she’s compliant about it, and that’s still bad and shows her character now

[@devonbennett33]

She has talked about it in other interviews! I think it was bachelor happy hour

[@meganmcdonald376]

I think he was joking about Naming his kid her name. I think he was just kidding to flirt more with her.. Adam Levine sucks. The insta model sucks.. Greek bad for his wife.

[@lindaantebi955]

I don’t think Aven came out to date her. I think he was just being supportive. Big pic: if Tino didn’t plan on this, was invested 100 w Rach, and it happened by accident and he was ridden w guilt = ok. But if he was careless, a liar then he deserved it all. On stage on cam… he signed up for publicity

[@SBhattacharyyaaaaa67]

Rachel is the sweetest girl. I love her 😊

[@waffles2287]

This was sooooooo annoying lol. So one sided lol I can’t stand this

[@thinkingoutloud9788]

Forgiving someone doesn’t automatically make them mature. If she would have been like screw this I’m out there would have been thing wrong with that. Gabby is overrated.

[@alisonperea1208]

💤💤💤😩😩😩

[@halleyschae]

Wack, nothing new