Chieftain's Q&A #10

[@Waltham1892]

Fun Fact: If you soak a toilet paper roll in FRH and hang it on the front end of a 105mm HEAT round, it makes a lovely read fireball going down range. On a similar note, if you take a soda can and punch the sides with holes and hang it on the front end of a HEAT round, it screams as it goes down range. Lastly, doing any of those things makes the RSO go all red in the face.

[@5oclock_Charlie]

How the hell do you know this? lmao

[@Waltham1892]

@@5oclock_Charlie I may, or may not, have been present when some of these unapproved modifications of ordinance took place. I would also add that a HEAT Training rounds have a dramatic and sudden effect on cows that may, or may not, have wandered into the range fan. I wouldn't mind being more specific but I would request that the Judge Advocate General appoint me representation before discussing these matters further.

[@AdamMGTF]

Jokes on you. Toilet paper is now the most precious item in the inventory and is only issued to majors and above. Please reply: "Doh!"

[@Waltham1892]

@@AdamMGTF DOH!

[@5oclock_Charlie]

@@Waltham1892 so what you're telling me is that the cow died of sudden metal poisoning?

[@SootHead]

"Front slope wear gauge!" Yeah! One of my Vietnam Era green machine experiences involved a very naive shavetail sent around the site of practice beach landings to find a "sky hook." When he exhausted all the shoreside possibilities, he finagled a LARC, braving the rough surf to end up with us, a U.S. Army repair vessel. We said, "Sir, we don't have one but we can make one for you. If you'd care to go topside for some coffee and donuts, we'll whip one up for you." His relief was palpable, as he had spend the better part of a day going hither and yon. Our welders "hot glued" some scrap metal together into a purposeful-looking shape and send him on his way. He was so pitifully grateful that many of us suffered pangs of guilt over it. Poor bastard even got seasick.

[@edmundscycles1]

Similar experience working in a garden supply shop . Customer asked a work colleague for a sirting board ladder . The poor girl searched for about half an hour until someone handed her a hamster cage ladder . The teasing backfired on the customer when he asked the same girl for glass nails ( this was a nail designed for mounting glass to a greenhouse so it did exist. ) the same girl looked at him and told him to "fuck off" . Much arm waving and soundless "nooo" from behind the customer was unheeded. I had to run and grab a packet and both the girl and customer had red faces . Needless to say this became a point of humour towards that member of staff . We also managed to get her to ask for Betty Swallocks and Teresa Green over the tannoy.

[@vaclav_fejt]

@@edmundscycles1 "There is a green" and what was the first name?

[@edmundscycles1]

@@vaclav_fejt it's trees are green . Betty Swallocks over a tannoy sounds like "sweaty bollocks "

[@Feiora]

@@edmundscycles1 You guys must be british... The biggest island of dicks if ever there is one! (Not counting Australia or New Zealand) ^.^ ;P

[@NM-wd7kx]

@@edmundscycles1 watched a couple of chaps fitting a curved glass deli cover, one asked the other for the glass hammer so we all chuckled until the chap handed over a small mallet with a cushioned head to reduce shock.

[@xerxeskingofking]

UK tanker shenanigans, heard second hand: at one tanker unit sometime in the late 80s (specifically, back when challengers were in service but before chieftains and other older MBTs had been fully withdrawn form service), they had a fun little snipe hunt for the FNG: shortly before setting off for exercise, they would tell the new guy they needed to go to the stores and get the BFA for the tank (BFA= Blank Firing Adaptor, normally used on small arms for blank firing training). So, the new guy would get to stores, where the long suffering storeman would show them the tank-sized BFA, a 20 odd kilo lump of metal, spray painted yellow, which looked somewhat like the BFA the new guy used for his rifle in basic. After lugging this heavy, awkward lump of steel back to his tank, the rest of the crew would berate the FNG, saying "you fool, thats a BFA for a Chieftain tank! take it back and go get the Chally BFA!".

[@Feiora]

I assume the storeman is in on this trick?

[@xerxeskingofking]

@@Feiora of course. Hence why their is s 20 kilo lump of metal spray painted yellow sat in the store in the first place

[@briansmithwins]

Not a tank shenanigan, but from a medical class: We sent the guy who wasn’t too strong on human anatomy to the nurses station for 2m of fallopian tubing.

[@CallanElliott]

How long did it take him to figure it out?

[@briansmithwins]

After the nurses sent him down to the storeroom in the basement.

[@LionofCaliban]

Nice. The one story I think I am free to share and otherwise is quite funny is why you always put the mask on when dealing with rectal abscesses. Vet, small dog rather than person in this case. Self proclaimed queen of the class thought she was above everyone and so smart, decides to go and look at this thing, no mask. Only it then bursts, shoots over a woman's shoulder and hits queen of the class straight in the face. Much laughter was had. She was not exactly well liked.

[@Lazarus7000]

Bucket of prop wash, spool of flight line, portable pad-eye. The last one, be careful, because while it's not something standard, it can physically exist. One guy who asked for one ended up being presented with a regular pad-eye still set in a hundred pounds or so of concrete from a demolition process that was happening near enough that the overzealous or knowing noob had happened upon. Same with box of grid squares; dude was presented with a shoe box with a cut up map in it. The world of naval operations give us the keys to the sea-chest (a sea-chest is a kind of interface with the outside of the ship under the water for taking the water in for whatever reason you want some) and batteries for the sound-powered telephone. Tins of grease for absolute or relative bearings are another classic. Seems nearby demolitions are the bane of the snipe-hunt initiators, one guy who made the mistake of specifying a short length in meters of flight line rather than a whole spool was presented with a dump-truck containing a few tons of rubble which had indeed once been a flight line.

[@wyverncoch4430]

Sent someone to rub 'barrier cream' onto the main gate to keep it raising/lowering smoothly . Someone else to ware full NBC, [including pink marigold gloves] to carry a box of compasses (Radioactive sign on a compass) He saluted the OC while doing it ;) The OC laughed, but still gave us extras :?

[@uzivatel56]

The bit with Gun Jesus was well played. Bravo.

[@polygondwanaland8390]

I'm upset because I liked the video before that section and I couldn't like it again

[@petethebastard]

@@polygondwanaland8390 Yes! a double- or triple-like would be a good feature.

[@MS-gr2nv]

All hail Ian, gun Jesus!

[@johnbeechy]

there are Many technical its OK.. Matthew 26:52 speaks of how NOT to live by the sword.. But Jesus had all the Opportunity to Mention to the romans.. 'hey white boy,. U no need to carry that heavy piece.. here Our dark skinned Brothers are not any of them dark americans that local white cops usually FEAR so much as Future traffic stops'.. I have read some more than most and even the Exodus 32:27 where moses specifically used swords in his order to Mass murder 14% of the 25,000 Hebrews on earth .. all in one night.. 'every man put sword on thigh and going from (Hebrew Torah states "Tent") tent to tent, killing even your brothers (they were dark skinned Egyptian-Hebrews) and relatives'.. so swords were used to Kill them 3500 that refused to Pay the New Taxes that moses wanted rendered on to him.. small H. as for JC and the use of swords.. there is a passage within Luke where the non skywalker speaks to a moment of Ill use upon a guard/cop and JC rose to the occasion, Gave SHIT to the use and proceeded to attempt to repair the Torn ear of the local Hebrew cop.. if it had been a roman it would have meant death to all in the room and their families if they hid any of them... rome had no time for unlawful use of swords.. as for the use of Guns.. well U can own them as if u wont or dont then some Dumb ass atheist will sell it to some dumb kid that Will or May Day kill themselves by accident. It happens and then the parents get life insurance pay outs..so a True Christian would suggest.. 'remove the Firing Pins, so they r Damn safe from the inferior' and there is a movie reference.. "Shooter" with mark W.. his character removes the Pins so no one can frame his sniper ass.. good call as that move saved him from being framed.. / the 2nd amendment by USA is one of the few laws that allow for citizens to possess arms.. russia does not allow such freedom for mental patients.. BUT the amendment is NOT meant for use on school kids.. BUT upon the president once he becomes a tyrant.. so read that paper before U assume too much and a C-Virus is outside on a box .. because Constitution is clear in article 1 section 8 point 1.. 'collect taxes for defense and General Welfare of united states' and because the CDC's funding was CUT and GAAP does not allow for Corporate tax cuts to be used on tyax deductible expenses.. Peter of Jesus taught the first Christians.. 'render on to Caesar' was not a request.. and sure JC was ass dark and Not white.. but USA can at least learn that His words were not and never were 'render on to a corner store church'../ But as far as True Christian Legal dept is concerned.. U can own but dont use in ill Will.. headaches will come as often as the 20 USA vets suicides per day.. 7300 per yr.. over 102,000+ suicides since 2004 alone.. all vets.. and All Go to HELL.. no exceptions. most of them were atheists wasting their time in this life and needed to move on and get out of the way of their atheist masters that refuse to fund the VA.. losers lose wars and cant seem to find them missing WMDs.. where is Duh JC in being stupid?? Exodus 32:27 was watt steam engine moses did to the leaders of the 12 tribes.. now the C-Virus can be used to remove sheep of the same false god selfish beliefs.. // actually the C-Virus will remove them with the pre existing conditions and the lack of the right DNA to compete vs this virus' majority strain and then 2 more minority waves.. so stay surfing the net and stay safe inside.. God bless them that provide the details that duh devil dont know. because duh devil dont do the homework.. knowing is winning and 'the Last Ship' might be the new way to refer to the USA... stay inside /

[@DIEGhostfish]

@@petethebastard Star ratings used to be a thing.

[@joeelliott2157]

“I ashamed they rejected my suggestion of a track tensioning scene however.” Directors learned from Alfred Hitchcock that too much tension ruins a scene. However, I think Hitchcock, had he been directing, could have been talked into an extended scene where the crew works on the Sherman’s suspension.

[@hvymtal8566]

IDK abotu "too much tension", I think it would have been riveting

[@wwciii]

A friend of mine was a tank school seargent and had his recruits convinced if you turned the turret 7 times counter clock wise it would unscrew and fall off..

[@beefycheesecake]

😂😂😂

[@bigblue6917]

In the past the USM would fight alongside the British Army who would supply tanks and artillery support. So the Marines did not need much of their own. Though I don't see the British Army being used in the South China Sea. Your mention of burnt out tanks reminded me of an interview I saw with a British newsreel cameraman who was with the British 8th Army in North Africa during WW2. New to the job he was told to toss a smoke grenade into a knocked out tank as this made for a very dramatic shot. This worked fine until those tasked with recovering the tanks caught up with them and gave them something of an earbashing. Apparently the smoke grenades were setting fire to the tanks which meant they could not be rebuilt. And as replacements were not easy to come by that greatly added to the problem of having as many tanks in service as possible. After that no more smoke grenades.

[@Feiora]

Oh no the British Army is there in the South China Sea, just under different names and much closer to the AO than the home island is... ;)

[@thomaswilloughby9901]

A turret monster story, a tank was deadlined by a porno magazine. The loader placed the magazine he was reading on top of the 105 gun in an M60A3 during gunnery. The gun fired and the magazine slipped between the gun and recoil sleeve preventing the gun returning to battery. The gun had to be compressed in order to remove the magazine.

[@c1ph3rpunk]

I can hear the “damn it, ya shot your load” jokes through time.

[@Lintary]

Magazine paper is shockingly strong when compacted and in number. Not a army tale, but I spend a good 2 hours clearing out a shredder for carton after some one dumped a whole pallet of folders into it printed on magazine paper. For their safety and well being I never found out who the idiot was.

[@stevewilson7819]

How many holes did he get to dig as punishment? Or did get an Article 15?

[@thomaswilloughby9901]

@@stevewilson7819 That stuff didn't happen in the National Guard. The guy got embarrassed the mechanics exercised the gun and we all had a good laugh. No equipment was damaged and minimal time lost.

[@stevewilson7819]

Thomas Willoughby That’s good. In the Marine Corps they had a zero defect mentality. If you made a mistake someone wanted a piece of you. Not saying that’s good leadership. Just the way it was.

[@sully4627]

In regards to the"Fury" question, I bet a track tensioning scene would have been riveting. And if anyone hasn't watched "Operation Think Tank", they're wrong.

[@ZGryphon]

"See that screw? Turn it. Now you tensionin'. Turn it t'other way. Now you ain't."

[@xwrn]

A track tension scene is riveting. A tank riveting scene has tension.

[@petethebastard]

I reckon some '...listen new-guy!! This our Tank and Home! ...our Mission and Protector! We look after it, it looks after us!' sort of scene could've been very appropriate and affective. ...track-bashing and greasing and topping up the final-drives.... Include zero-ing the guns.

[@johnplies2778]

I bet now they can do a Think Tank via the internet and they have stuff for reference, but I don't know how all of them are with computers.

[@angusrayner9934]

in regards to the fury movie in general, i would really recomend this video, kzbin.info/www/bejne/aWKplHqfo7WfaZo

[@Halinspark]

"A T.O.G. two decades before T.O.G. was due to show up." Presumably made by the French Old Gang. A Fr.O.G., if you will.

[@Nightdare]

Or F.O.G. documents are a bit _hazy_ on that subject

[@vaclav_fejt]

@@Nightdare Jokes like these will be mist.

[@Nightdare]

@@vaclav_fejt That much is clear

[@davidburroughs7068]

Hmmm, can't quite see what you're saying.

[@opperbuil]

In 1918 -1921, they are still the Original Gang. But the FrOG still stands. Hatts off to this master of an abbreviation!

[@ElectroAtletico]

...SO MUCH FOR YOUR TRIP TO BRAZIL IN MID-MAY!!

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

Yeah, that didn't happen, Indefinite hold now.

[@JazzJaRa]

Turret Monster once bent an MG-3 in our Leopard 2 because the loader layed it on the floor and when the gunner turned the turret, Turret Monster was satisfied.

[@Mastah2006]

Operation TT is one of the best source of tank related knowledge available. It’s sad, that it wasn’t a commercial success. I insanely appreciate the effort of organizing it

[@richardm1062]

"Sufficient rounds of F.U. for most situations" LOL! Make that into a T-shirt and I'll buy it!

[@alluraambrose2978]

I admire Jensen for trying to find and figure out what a front slope wear gauge is, he didn't give up. But I am shocked that a person who is going to serve the Intelligence branch is so daft he can't figure out he is being pranked or that such thing is just not possible to exist.

[@oldmangimp2468]

I have heard, at least 3 times, a non-veteran refer to a sufficiently large crowbar (or prybar) as a "tanker bar". Not much, but it is a start.

[@justforever96]

It is actually a track bar, for railroad workers, and was long before tanks were a thing. Although I am sure they are older than railroads too, one of the oldest pieces of equipment humans have. "Crow" used to be a common term, though that included smaller ones as well.

[@ECHOFOXTROT289]

Nah we love the 15 yo photo as a logo. And remember! You are not some casual cool channel, you are THE cool tank-related channel. Keep it up. Greetings from Italy.

[@billd.iniowa2263]

I couldnt care less about playing WOT, but I'm glad it exists. It has brought The Chieftain to KZbin and done much good for those of us interested in studying tanks and warfare.

[@martinmorsch7507]

Common one for mechanics: „We need to top of the Gear-sand... go to the storage and ask them for a basket of it“ 20min go by, guy comes back, „they asked if we need green or red sand“ You send him down for red one. another 20min go by, „theyre out of red and want to know if yellow would work“ you tell him that we absolutely need red, after another 20 mins pass by and hes gonna tell you he ordered it. Other classics are a basket of pressurized air, idealy 3 Bar. (you be astounded how often you get an empty basked... sometimes they even find a lid to put on...) Woodworkers know the tale of Garlic-wood. „Its very bright, almost like Birch.“ „anything else to distinguish it by?“, „yeah it smells like garlic...“ after an our the boss comes in... „could you tell m what the new guy is doing smelling wood in the storage?“

[@Nipplator99999999999]

I remember during my basic training I was told if required to deal with enemy armor use 4 AT-4s all fired at the same time. So I asked what do we do about the rest of his buddies that just saw 4 rockets fired from 1 area. I was still doing PT when the range closed.

[@Trapster99]

You are right, there should have been a 'track tensioning scene'. There were several opportunities for such a scene with the tankers standing around the tank to have one guy take out a wrench and tighten the track tension. Would have been perfect.

[@matthewcraver9917]

The "alternate interpretation" of Marine tanks being a budgetary bluff is the likely explanation. See the "Revolt of the Admirals" for a historical precedent that the Commandant of the Corps is certainly aware of.

[@hvymtal8566]

Considering the proposal to merge the USMC into the Army during that time, he certainly would. But, I don't think it is a budgetary bluff. To secure the future of the Marine Corps as a _complimentary_ service rather than a _supplementary_ service, it would certainly do well to stop being a second US Army. Indeed, the infrastructure in the pacific islands is hardly suitable for handling 70t monsters like the Abrams. Equipment that cannot be used for its intended purpose is just a waste of money, space, and training

[@RomanHistoryFan476AD]

@@hvymtal8566 they should keep a few of the heavy toys around though, who knows if the enemy might keep a few tanks around in the jungles or islands.

[@jb76489]

@@RomanHistoryFan476ADas the man said in the video, if they need tanks, they can get them from the army

[@RomanHistoryFan476AD]

@@jb76489 That takes time to do though, sometimes you need them ready.

[@MrGeorocks]

Most RPG's (pen and paper and video game) will refer to the front line fighter ment to draw the enemies focus and survive the onslaught as "The Tank" Not strictly lingo but if we didn't have the word tank being associated with large, durable fighting machines then we'd be calling them something else like....the fella up front with a sado need to feel pain or something. I'm terrible at naming things.

[@philipbossy4834]

Took me a second to read RPG right... couldn't figure out what a pen and paper Rocket Propelled Grenade could be.

[@kittehgo]

@@philipbossy4834 Oh that's easy, it's when you run out of ammo. You draw projectiles and mail them to the enemy :D

[@wytfish4855]

would probably be called a knight or a battleship or something then

[@hvymtal8566]

@@wytfish4855 "Battleship", probably, since it's distinctive from any "knight" class in medieval, renaissance, or fantasy settings

[@scrubsrc4084]

"Pull trigger, bullets go out there" Heavy gun jesus breathing. Your description of fury how everything happened to a crew somewhere is basically a tank version of the biggles books

[@sgtsnake8087]

Reading through Force Design 2030 I had a very hard time NOT hearing it in my head as The Chieftain.

[@MrBirdonawire]

Thank you for the respite from being with my family 24/7. You are good man Chieftain. Thanks for continuing to post through all this.

[@doubleducks814]

During the Northern Ireland troubles we found a certain type of small metal beer barrel rolled under a Saracen armoured car made steering impossible.

[@paullooney2522]

Was that before you got the drogue?or after?

[@doubleducks814]

@@paullooney2522 I speak of things I've seen with my own eyes not computer screens.

[@mattiasdahlstrom2024]

Not wasting beer !?

[@hvymtal8566]

@@mattiasdahlstrom2024 Harder to get unstuck when it has significant mass in it

[@ScottKenny1978]

@@mattiasdahlstrom2024 it was probably filled with Budweiser... Which no Irishman would consider beer

[@davidgrandy4681]

Beware "We'll be home by Christmas ..." It's never worked out in the past. Sigh ...

[@ivankrylov6270]

too soon dude

[@ZGryphon]

Lots of guys got home by Christmas in 1914, it's just that they were dead.

[@kmcd1000]

They didn't say what year of Christmas.

[@stevewilson7819]

If had been in that situation I would have told my Marines that I better not hear anyone of you F Tards say that shit! It’s bad for moral, and never works out that way.

[@ZGryphon]

@@jack99889988 Fair enough. My answer would be the same, just with a different year. War never changes...

[@matthewanderson9754]

I absolutely loved operation think tank!!!!🧡 that was the greatest thing I've ever watched, I've saved all of them so I can watch them anytime I feel! Which has been often! So well done!!!

[@michaelkarnerfors9545]

12:25 "But still, fifteen rounds of .45 is sufficient amounts of F.U. for most situations." That nearly put a mouthful of coffee over my keyboard and screen. Although avoided, the camo of the tank on my "Have a significant emotional event" T-shirt (happy co-incidence, I do not actually bring it out to celebrate new Chieftain-videos) now has splashes of khaki added to its green.

[@vahn028]

That line got me as well. Couldn't help laughing at the one.

[@Ciderwinder]

"Keep shooting 'til it catches fire or changes shape." My new favourite.

[@ret7army]

Your "Front Slope Wear Gauge" story reminded me of one an armorer pulled on his LT. They had in the arms room a conical bag that had a zipper along one side. The small end was open, with a roughly 90mm hole in it. The large end was closed by the zipper, which also went along one side. Some wag had stenciled on it in proper military format, "Bag, Recoiless Rifle, 90mm etc and so on. The LT was in the armory doing some sort of inspection and the armorer asked him to help out by giving a "TI" (technical inspection) of the bag. The LT finally found out when the CO took pity on him. His attempted revenge on the armorer was to have him disassemble the M60 MG. He said that he had no idea that there were so many parts in the thing. The armorer had taken it apart down to the retaining pins and springs.

[@LionofCaliban]

If there's one thing I learned from some friends of mine, long gone now, was never, ever try to prank the armourer. He or she will get you back harder and smarter than you ever thought.

[@at1cvb417]

Lol, front slope wear gauge, reminds me of sending people for 50 feet of flight line, 5 gallons of prop wash, and a bucket of steam.

[@Sturm01]

Or chem light batteries, a box of grid squares, and winter air for tires

[@GeneralJackRipper]

Don't forget the headlight fluid.

[@cirian75]

Or tartan paint

[@grunt167]

Or a can of squelch from the Comm Sergeant.

[@ewilano649]

Not to forget, the classic can of elbow grease.

[@ryedub132]

super pumped at the idea of a future think tank. that's one of my favourite series you've ever put out

[@johanneduardschnorr3733]

Chieftan, your videos have been a revelation for serious students in armor warfare! It’s just very unfortunate that the internet didn’t become a “thing” until well after the tankers from WW2 became old, and less face it, intimidated by computer use.. Anecdotally, my father was in Armor in the U.S. from 1944 until 1975. I gave him a copy of Cooper’s book when it came out, and it absolutely outraged him!!!

[@ArfurFaulkesHake]

The front armour wear gage reminds me of how my teacher, a master craftsman, send his trainee to go check the anvil coolant connection. Took him 20 minutes to realise there wasn't one.

[@Bird_Dog00]

In my company, the 4th year aprentices once sent one of the the 1st year ones down to me to fetch the canister with the fuel for the surface grinder (a surface grinder is a type of tool machine, and they all run electricaly). Since we had planed this ahead, I had one ready...

[@roadrunner6224]

Also very popular. Send the apprentice to find some transmission sand, even better if everyone in storage plays along and he is send all over the place for the next half an hour.

[@1337flite]

Our bogus job for reos (re-inforcements) was. a long weight. "Go to the Q-store and ask them to give you a long wait". Invariably the Q staff delivered. I think one reo waited over 2 hours. He got the long wait.

[@VekhGaming]

I once heard some ask a new intern to get the "winter tire air canisters", took him 30 minutes of checking the few gas bottles we had to say he couldn't find it, when we told him that they actually were in the lubricant cabinet. Another 30 minutes later he got told that he got had. This suddenly became funnier now that several car (repair) shops actualy started offering to fil the tires with pure Nitrogen instead of regular air so now we do have Tire Air Canisters.

[@vaclav_fejt]

A civillian story, one of my especially joculous ancestors is known for sending his grandkids for 10 dag of chopped wire (whole).

[@rrl4245]

As an old Infantry officer, we joked (kind of) that our 1911s were so old, that parts fell off when you shook them, and that you could only kill one enemy with them. After you emptied the magazine and the rounds went randomly down range, yoou threw the thing at the bad guy and hit him in the head!

[@am17frans]

I think that is the reason why the guns were so worn. 20 years of officers throwing the gun as hard as they can at the target after every seven shots tend to beat the gun up pretty badly.

[@ottovonbismarck2443]

Same myth here in Germany about the Walther P1. Load the mag before throwing it just to hit harder. Also we were told the best way to clear a building with an Uzi was to throw the bloody thing through the window and let it "work" on itself. Loved the Uzi, though.

[@french_kiwi_frog8388]

exactly the same story for the mac50 we used in the French army, above 15meters its better to throw it to your target than shooting at it

[@randymagnum143]

Ive shot some well worn pistols. When i missed, i was to blame.

[@xt6wagon]

@@french_kiwi_frog8388 So Goldeneye's klobb had a real life counterpart? I once was asked how I was so deadly with that thing, and the easy answer was to not aim at the target since it would hit everywhere but where you aimed.

[@wyverncoch4430]

Front plate wear gauge: Favorite anecdote,. rubbing barrier cream onto the main gate to keep it raising/lowering smoothly

[@charleshines2094]

Another interesting video. Also, it was fun being in a WoT game with you a couple of days ago and afterword having the opportunity to apologize for an old less-than-civil WoT forum exchange...

[@cheesenoodles8316]

The .45 & Fury refrence make this a great Q&A....the shenangins too.

[@Tamburahk]

i remember front slope wear gauge story from you when u told me it personaly in a pub........i cant stop laughing xD

[@ArnoSchmidt70]

First video where the focus is right, Bravo!

[@1337flite]

Tanker and/or cavalry language in common use: - "steady on" - means slow down/stop or settle down in civil life E.g. "Steady on old boy!". I believe this is part of old school gunnery fire control orders between commander and gunner. "...traverse left! Steady! On! ..." , I'm not a gunner but I recall gunnery students calling out the fire control orders in the lines at night while practising. Definately used in civil life in Australia/Britain although possibly less common among youner people. - "lead the charge" - "...I'll lead the charge on this new TPS report initiative..." - "rattling sabre"/"sabre rattling" - as in "..we've seen Russian sabre rattling on the border..." - "pull up stakes" or "up stakes" - meaning to move to a new place, I believe means pull up the stakes that anchored the lines the cavalry's horses were tied to in laager. - "hang up your spurs" - retire Related phrase " like the charge of the light brigade" - usually means an ill conceived f*ck up.

[@AdamMann3D]

Operation Think Tank was amazing. Perhaps crowd fund the sequel? The idea that there is a video i made painting a model with 4 times the views of that makes me sad. To be fair part 1 is over 100k, but it should be higher.

[@hvymtal8566]

"It should be higher" is damn right. But the reality is, it isn't :/

[@ChrisElyea]

Thank you for addressing my questions! And yes, you pronounced my name perfectly!

[@thegoldencaulk2742]

"I know Kimber is the end all and be all of 1911s..." Don't let Les Baer, Nighthawk, Wilson Combat, STI, or Ed Brown hear you say that...

[@b2tall239]

Or Colt...

[@scottland8698]

*J Jonah Jamison laugh*

[@31terikennedy]

Colt. The Original does the greatest.

[@Chilly_Billy]

@@31terikennedy, while Colts are good pistols IMO they aren't the best. I say that as the owner of 7 Colts since the 1980's. For a shooting 1911, nothing beats the Ruger family. Reasonable price coupled with the best accuracy I've experienced in a non-bullseye target pistol.

[@charleshines2094]

@@Chilly_Billy I'd put my Colt Gold Cup Mk IV Series 70 up against any current 1911. It is as obsolescent as any 1911, but its trigger is simply outstanding, and the large slow lump of lead goes where you aim it every time.

[@haydenr5128]

Thanks for telling me about the Armour and Artillery Museum in Cairns! I live in the same state and I didn’t even know it existed, I thought I would have to go down to Canberra for anything like that apart from Mephisto of course.

[@GogglesAreAwsome]

Armaments Chapter 1 Verses 9 - 11: "And Gun Jesus raised the 1911 on high saying, "Bless this, thy pistol, that with it thou mayst shoot thy enemies full of holes in thy mercy." And the Lord did grin and the people did feast upon the Lambs and Tigers and Panthers and Leopards and Olifants and breakfast cereals and bat soup." "And the Lord spake, saying "First thou shalt load the magazine, which shall contain rounds of the holy number 7. No more, no less. 7 shall be the number thou shalt load and the number of the loading shall be 7. 8 thou shall not load, neither load thou 6 excepting that thou then load to 7. 14 is right out. Once the round 7, being the 7th round be loaded, then may thous insert thou the sacred magazine into the holy 1911, chamber it, and fire it a thy foe. Who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it."

[@Chilly_Billy]

Whereupon Martin Luther nailed a Wilson 8 round magazine to the cathedral door and host the whole thing.

[@mattiasdahlstrom2024]

The 7th seal ...

[@MS-gr2nv]

Bat soup, Raughed out Roud!

[@enlightenedwarrior7119]

Is this after you throw the holy hand grenade

[@nonpartisangunowner4524]

GET ON WITH IT!

[@barryslemmings31]

The Panjandrum was not a Home Guard weapon, it was a 'secret weapon' of very uncertain purpose. It was actually an Admiralty (Royal Navy) developed weapon: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panjandrum However the Home Guard DID have the Smith Gun: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_Gun and the Bates Eight-Barrel Bottle thrower. Barry

[@hfs030929]

Hi Nick, glad to see that you selected one of our Austrian Leopard II A4s for your mantlet pic :-)

[@AllisterCaine]

I have heard in Stalingrad, the russians were dropping railroad steel from the rooftops onto german tanks and those things were said to have quite some penetration power, but post pen explosive results were lacking.

[@SlavicCelery]

His statement about 1911's being clapped out is the exact same story about M9's that are currently being phased out. So many people leave the military hating the item, shoot a clean one, and fall in love with what it is supposed to be. 1911's are good pistols, and not the crap wagons that some people would have you believe. They are obsolescent, but still pretty darn deadly in the right hands.

[@JessWLStuart]

"15 rounds of .45 is sufficient amounts of 'FU' for most situations!" - This quote should be on a T-Shirt!

[@gizmophoto3577]

The tale of the front slope wear gauge made me think of the times I sent guys at the grocery store off to look for a left-handed broom. You know how the bristles get when they’re worn, right? Ah, memories.

[@barryslemmings31]

The U.S. Army DID use the 57mm APDS ammunition. If you look at the opening minutes of this 1944 film: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqHGiZeYrtOEnJY You will see a US 57mm crew passing ammunition and two of the rounds are clearly APDS, I assume that these were supplied from British stocks. There are also U.S. reports from the Battle of the Bulge which indicate that they were firing APDS. However the film is dated August 8, 1944 so we can place some APDS ammunition in US hands as early as that date. Barry

[@F1ghteR41]

Very underrated comment.

[@throwabrick]

"track-tensioning scene", I was doing something else when you said that, and had to stop and guffaw. thanks, man. I needed a laugh.

[@UkrainianPaulie]

I was an 11C. We had M-106A2 4.2 inch mortar track. We had our FNG jump up and down on the vehicle to test the shocks. Then We had him air up the road wheels. Funny when he said he coulden't find the valve stems

[@ElEmElEkv13]

Operation Think Tank was great. If costs are really the only problem with making next one, maybe You should try making it as a podcast? I think now is the best time to try it. Everyone is home either way, so getting few experts to talk for an hour or so about tanks should be fairly possible. It would be great thing to listen to/watch on evenings.

[@thomasellysonting3554]

For Ogaden I highly recommend the books of Tom Cooper. He’s pretty much the go-to-guy when it comes to books about modern and largely forgotten Bush Wars; albeit the military establishment tends to dislike him as he tends to actually interview sources on the ground (especially from Arab and African armies) who tend to have a very, very different view of the conflicts compared to Westerners who largely base their accounts off written reports. Also, I take it that they wanted a Tiger II for Fury, as the US Army actually encountered them more and the front would have been more proof against even 76 fire. But they were filiming in Bovington and the only Tiger II runner was in Saumur.

[@drewames9629]

Love the Q&As. Operation Think Tank was brilliant. It's good for you to plug it again. Have you considered having Operation Think Tank II be virtual? At this point, with Zoom or WebEx, or whatever, you could get a ton of experts together, speaking to one another and the audience pretty inexpensively.

[@y-u-video4596]

Thank you sir, very funny and informative episode. I am new to this series, found it over the autoloader issue. I will watch some more episodes :)

[@tommyblackwell3760]

Front slope wear gauge! LMAO!!! So cool that the cadre went along with it!

[@christopherberry9496]

I love the gun of the month idea. Cant wait for more!

[@Grace17893]

Great job man; God bless you

[@brendandevidal6606]

My understanding re: smoothbores was that there is a functional limit to the length-to-diameter of a spin stabilized projectile, ie. you can’t spin stabilize long skinny rounds past a certain point. As armor defeat started to focus on longer, denser, and faster KE long rod penetrators, this pushed tanks towards smoothbores and APFSDS rounds. The other stuff like increases in velocity and barrel life were more just gravy. Was I incorrect in this?

[@4991Ares]

There is truth to both your explanation, and Nick's. If you have a skinnier projectile, it has a lower moment of inertia, and therefore you need a quicker spin (RPM) to properly stabilise in flight, like a spinning top going several thousand feet per second. To achieve this spin you need faster rifling, which means more drag. You can solve this drag issue with a looser fit on the driving band, but then you lose velocity. This catch 22 between proper stabilization, lower internal drag and proper seal behind the projectile is what drove tank guns into smoothbores.

[@quentintin1]

To my understanding HEAT might have also a hand, as spinning the warned seems to have an adverse effect on the anti-armour capabilities (thus the Obus G for the AMX 30) this can be observed with the Brits who retained rifled guns on their tanks for better HESH performances and designed their sabot ammunition to work (some rifling unrifler business that I won't act like I understand it)

[@brendandevidal6606]

Django Goffin While I agree that there is a trade off at the lower end, IIRC there is an upper bound above which there simply isn’t a reasonable way to spin stabilize a projectile. Pistol bullets are usually somewhere between 1x-2x length to diameter. Rifle bullets are usually 3x-5x, with some VLD/high BC being close to 7x. An APFSDS projectile is around 23x. I can’t seem to find the calculation at the moment, but I seem to remember that to theoretically spin stabilize a projectile of those proportions, you’d end up with rifling that looked like the thread on a machine screw and your gun would blow up.

[@xt6wagon]

Also a factor in that ranges are not such that a very good smooth bore isn't good enough even if rifled would be more accurate. If you can hit center mass at the longest range your firecontrol computer has with a smooth bore, whats slightly more center of mass going to do for you?

[@F14thunderhawk]

@@brendandevidal6606 the rule is 10 to 1 length vs diameter

[@washingtonradio]

On the Marines getting rid of tanks, the Marines faced a similar problem after WWI when the Marines were used as ordinary infantry assigned to the Army's 2nd Division, 4th Brigade. After WWI the Marines were faced with the option being heavy infantry (a role the Army already had) or specialize in something else that Army did not normally do. They chose the latter as the former basically would mean the end of the Marines. Note in WWI, the Marines provide units to a brigade but the rest of the division including artillery and support units was all Army. This is also the source of the Army's disgust with the Marines as at Belleau Wood all the artillery, some of the infantry (only for part of the battle), and all the support units were Army as well as the brigade commander being an Army brigadier general. While popular myth is the Army was nowhere to be found.

[@hvymtal8566]

Easier to survive when you reorient yourselves as a complementary service (a _Marine_ Corps) than a supplementary one (a second US Army) As for Bellau Wood, legends make better stories than truths, and a bunch of washed-up Marines far from their home on the beaches and ships kicking the collective asses of the army that three nations couldn't make budge for three years makes for a better story. In this day and age, let them have it. The Army has plenty of good stories of its own from the Great War. (We Shall Remain Here is the first that comes to mind)

[@stilwellhousepreservationf3446]

There was a "Navy Log" episode about the Japanese sticking a steel bar into the sprockets of an M3 tank. So the Marines welded oil drum tops over the sprockets.

[@xt6wagon]

Seems like they could retain the armor and engineering capability in the Marines by way of defense of Naval facilities. Keep a core of knowledge and practaces alive while minimizing budget requirements. Clearly if Armor has proven successful in the current conflicts, small units for rapid response to threats on a base would prove useful. Bridging/engineering is always useful, from temporary needs to disaster relief. Can't imagine one more F-35 is going to do much good in a hurricane. but trained crew with engineering vehicles certainly will be. One of those things is certainly cheaper than the other too.

[@thomaswilloughby9901]

The front slope wear gauge story had this old tanker LOL especially the statement of charges. We sent new guys after the tire pressure gauge for the road wheels, squelch oil for the radios(pre SINGARS), a box of grid squares and the keys to the travel lock.

[@christopherwatson34]

We sent a newbie to the como. shop for a PRK-E6. Pronounced as it looks ( The como. Staff Sergent was not amused)

[@seanmalloy7249]

You left out the final 'S' -- "My Ass Rides In Navy Equipment, Sir!"

[@r.g.o3879]

The snipe hunt you mentioned has always been around in one way or another. My father who served back during WW2 told my sister and I of similar pranks while I recall back in the early 80s while serving as a chief of fire direction we would send a new guy to find a track stretching tool. Oddly while in college I managed a pizza delivery place, we would send the new guy to find a pizza screen stretching tool which I'm assuming originated with a former military guy. This just kind of shows the old saying there's nothing new under the sun to be more or less true. I always thought it was amusing how my mom told the story of meeting my dad back in 1939 when he would take her for rides in his jeep. The first vehicle I drove in the army in 81 was a Jeep and just before I got out to go back to college I got to drive a humvee. Maybe I'll still be around when they replace this new vehicle

[@Centurion101B3C]

My $0.02 Re. Cavalry terms into everyday vernacular: "Going at it from the saddle." Meaning; Going at it hard and above all fast and generally indicating a narrow time-window for success as well as a high urgency of attaining the objective (whatever that might be.). Background: Old-School Cavalry generally used their mounts to get from point A (camp) to point B (Near Objective). Fighting would then take place dismounted (i.e. without mentioned mounts.), meaning that a fairly elaborate support-effort would be required to take care of said mounts to prevent them running away or undertaking endeavors incompatible with military form and/or procedure. The Alternative, thus obviating the support effort (elaborate or otherwise, but always time-consuming), would be to get to the business of attaining the objective from the saddle. Also: Engage in risky undertakings under time-pressure and/or without significant/sufficient preparation.

[@armoureddiver5262]

As a Brit I have participated in numerous debates regarding rifled versus smooth bore and so I will add my two pennyworth. The oft quoted reason for retaining rifled on Challenger 2 was the use of the full bore HESH round whose accuracy is improved by spinning. rom spin. Smooth bore HEAT, although full bore, spins but at a lower rate to retain accuracy but this is imparted by fins not by rifling. (The CR2 L30 gun does not fire HEAT) As mentioned by Wotans a very high rate of spin can affect the effectiveness of the HEAT penetrating slug. As regards APFSDS, although it needs to rotate, the speed imparted by rifling can also affect its effectiveness, accordingly the UK solution is a slipping driving band which limits it the rotation imparted by the barrel. After sabot separation, spin is stabilised by the fins. I was around for the early days of APFSDS on CR1 and we learned a few lessons in the work up to Desert Storm. Most crews had trained with DST (discarding Sabot Training) which had an aluminium tip that produced a good flash on striking a hard target. A fin strike had no such tell-tale which meant that with the high level of obscuration cased by the effects of firing in the desert, unless the target exploded or caught fire, gunners often re-engaged, hence some kills were stuck multiple times.

[@no_russian8363]

Great! Cheers from Mexico.

[@chrisgeddes26]

"The holy number of seven" with Ian in the background! ROTFLMAO! Tanker humor is the best.

[@brianreddeman951]

I've heard a dad tell his two daughters at a gas station to go inside a pick up a can of headlight fluid. Well worth watching the two girls come out from the station exclaiming "Dad, there's no such thing as headlight fluid!"

[@oni101]

AH, Tanker shenanigans! My favorites were the Rifle bore re-cutter, 105mm (it was powered and had carbide blades that fit in the lands used right after bore scope and pull overs) and the light bulb rebuild kit! Yes it does exist! It comes with a reusable glass cutter, a new filliment and a cartridge of inert gas. Do you know how much these IR lights are!? Now GO! check with the motor sergeant!

[@davedavedave52]

"Sufficient amount of FU for most situations" I luv it!

[@higfny]

"I shifted the flight two months to mid may, hopefully things will be a under control then". Yeah..

[@KPen3750]

That reference to the readings of Browning was hilarious

[@rudolphantler6309]

Your new coat of arms is very neat Nicholas!!! :)

[@lorka42]

In response to your question about Tanker lingo making it into common speech: I am a maintenance lead for a manufacturing facility, and I use the term "Significant Emotional Event" (i.e. "Then the associate had a Significant Emotional Event, caused by the unit falling from the roof down onto the floor beside them.") to describe what happens to employees who have a near miss incident in my reports on said incidents. However, I did give full attribution to you, The Chieftain, when asked by my employee health and safety manager where on earth I came up with the term.

[@kylehardman9135]

Excellent product

[@01ZombieMoses10]

"It [The 2C] was also overtaken by events" And overtaken by the infantry. And particularly hale and healthy elderly.

[@vaclav_fejt]

Reminds me of a Red Dwarf quote: "Lister, could we fly a bit faster, so we wouldn't be being overtaken by motionless objects?" (loose translation from dubbing back into English)

[@sar_ptolemy]

operation think tank is what got me here.

[@petergorrie1013]

A tin of tartan paint, asking stores for a long stand and left-handed screwdriver always made me laugh. :)

[@uyraellsensenmann8931]

Hello and Thank You, for all your marvellous videos, Nick. You might want to look at the Blacker Bombard; basically an oversized PIAT on a wheeled cart, used by the British in Homeland Defence in 1940. In similar vein is the Soviet use of an "Ampoule Projector/Thrower" which basically launched a Red Phosphorous incendiary grenade made of glass towards the enemy tank, from a distance of between 120 and 150 yards. In other words, the "ampoule" grenade was almost an enlarged version of the 1940 UK "Sticky Bomb" An interesting research topic, I hope you Agree. Kind and Respectful Regards, Nick, Uyraell, NZ.

[@thomasbernecky2078]

Thanks for the good clack, Chieftain.

[@brucecalhoun1716]

I know times are tough, just ordered a sweatshirt from ya! Goodonya, have a goodun!!

[@catfish552]

Realistic Fury Tiger fight: The Shermans start out with some distance between them instead of "bunch[ing] up like a lot of cows with their tails to the breeze" (in the words of the wartime training film). Spread out more when the fighting starts. They *really* made it easy on the Germans by staying together like that.

[@vicpecka7356]

Cinematography. If they'd been spread out at 50 or 100 meter interval, it would've looked bad on screen. Same with engagement ranges in the film.

[@Romanov117]

75 yards or more, *but never less*

[@cirian75]

The anger in the Marine tankers must similar to my old Regiment (Royal Dragoon Guard) were told in 2012 "we're taking your challenger 2's off you and giving you Scimitars until its replacement is ready", RDG response "erm what now?"

[@r.gilman4261]

It's a "fireman first" strategy, the Marines just want more money. Uncle Sams' Misguided Children have always been good at PR.

[@Feiora]

@@r.gilman4261 Can't wait for it to backfire and the bigwigs can the entire branch to get even more money freed up...

[@hvymtal8566]

@@Feiora When the anticipated operating theatre is pacific islands and beaches, whose infrastructure quality has not changed appreciably since the 1930s, is the loss of a 70 ton beast that can only cross 1/4 of the bridges at best such a bad thing? Ditching the tanks would partly save the USMC. If there was any time it was likely to be canned, it's more in the past than present and immediate future (especially now that there's a "new" big bad red team). Having an entire second US Army makes little sense for survival, operational (in the likely intended theatre), and yes, fiscal sense than a supplementary one. Seriously, the differences between the Army and Marines up until recently were all just semantics once you're off the boat.

[@ScottKenny1978]

Considering that the LCAC and LCU are limited to about 50 tons. Yes, I know the M1A1 is heavier than that, the Marines made it work. But there's no way to run an M1A2 off an LCAC or LCU.

[@Deranged_Waffle]

In regards to tanker lingo in the modern day I can think of no better example than, "stopped dead in their tracks".

[@hughbeastodonnell3733]

Infantry anti-tank weapons for when you don't have any real ones. A really good one from the Spanish Civil War was stringing a line between the houses of a village, then throwing blankets over it. The attacking tanks didn't have infantry supports and didn't want to go through the blankets to see what was on the other side. The Republicans used this dodge to break contact. The Home Guard, at Osterely Park outside London, suggested a drill where brave men hid in doorways and such at narrow spots in the roads and tracks to jam crowbars, etc, into the running gear. Also, the story of a Brit Coy comd in France 1940 laid out 5 white soup plates on the road, which caused the unsupported panzers to detour around that choke point and bought himself half an hour to break contact.

[@johndshepherd1946]

"Pop Smoke" is definitely an "Infantry" thing dating back to the Vietnam era. Smoke grenades served to mark helicopter landing zones and advise the aviators of the wind direction. Furthermore, by not mentioning the color of smoke in your radio transmission (e.g., "Smoke's out") you protected yourself and the chopper against the enemy throwing the same color smoke. Per dear old 'Fort Beginning' back in the late 1960s.

[@dancollins4755]

I remember we used to say goofy grape for purple smoke.

[@petethebastard]

I reckon self-protective smoke screens are A LOT older than that... But probably still Infantry based.

[@larrywest8046]

Not sure how many people remember but back in the 60s in the US there was a competitor to Kool Aid called Funny Face. Goofy Grape was a flavor/advertising character.

[@petethebastard]

@@larrywest8046 ...OK, there's news to me (from the other side of the planet) ...I'll try to remember that for the next Pub-Trivia Night... I have read the term in Vietnam biographies, now I know where it came from. Thanks.

[@blogsblogs2348]

When my grandad was in North Africa RE.. REME was not formed yet.. his team went round in a repair vehicle.. the Italians and Germans knew what it looked like.. it almost always got straffed or stukad. .. when they recovered and repaired tanks.. one if the worst bits was cleaning out the turret ring.. as fire caused heads to explode and crew brains tended to need scooped out..

[@JamesLaserpimpWalsh]

ahahahahah Track tensioning scene hahaha. I bet you did suggest that as well. haha I did wonder why they werent just using those panzerfausts they were pictured carrying. Oh well it was a good enough watch I s'pose. Cheers for the upload

[@stevenwagner7520]

Great q&a. I have wanted to hear your comments about 'Fury' for a long time.

[@coreywarde6030]

Loving the RAAC shirt Nick 👍

[@martingruffalump5484]

very informative and entertaining at da same time - great stuff!!! - im building a 1/35 T34/85 at moment and ive jst put on the wedges to clout the trackpins back in when they start to come out!!!!