‘Children Liable To Suicide If They Don’t Take The Drugs’ Cass Review Unveils ‘Shaky’ Gender Care

A major review has revealed that there is 'remarkably weak evidence' to support gender treatments for children.
Dr Hilary Cass, who chaired the Independent Review of Gender Identity Services for children and young people, said the pillars of gender medicine are “built on shaky foundations,” as evidence was found to be severely lacking on the impacts of puberty blockers and hormone treatments.
Dr Cass also urged that healthcare for people questioning their gender “needs to be improved across the board,” stating that there is a distinction between having a trans identity and medically transitioning.
Dr Cass added: “Many people with gender-diverse identities don’t want to go down a medical pathway” but will still be in need of support.
The review lays out 32 recommendations on how to ensure youngsters who are confused about their gender get a standard of care that is “safe, holistic and effective”.
TalkTV’s Kevin O’Sullivan and Alex Phillips are joined by NHS GP Dr Louise Irvine and LGB Alliance chair Kate Barker to discuss the findings.
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[@duncanhewitt6557]

Doctors and nurses in the NHS have failed in their do no harm to patients and done it in the worst way to vulnerable mentally ill children.

[@debbielondon1809]

The whistle blowers should be compensated for the stress they went through. Never mind the compensation due to the young peoples whose lives have been destroyed and their families who were pressurised by propaganda from various organisations, medical "professionals" and social workers. And the BBC's part in this should be investigated. They should ashamed!!!

[@notaclue822]

The media is still promoting it, its rife in the entertainment business.

[@XXchromosome24]

A study showed the trans ppl that committed suicide were adults that had the surgery and regretted it. Its bc they did transition, not bc they didn't.

[@stevenpower811]

The tavistock or as I like to call it the Joseph mengele centre for clinical malpractice.should be brought to justice as well as groups like stonewall.

[@outoforbit00]

Stonewall and Mermaids need to be thoroughly investigated. Computers, electronic equipment and financial documents need to be removed immediately from these premises. Who is funding them to the point where they could pay for their campaign to infiltrate every school in the country. Who were there henchmen that bullied and threatened any proffessional who raised concerns. And the biggest question of all, why were they so desperate and rampant to push this reckless treatment on children. Their hatred for children is of the scale.

[@mht5875]

Pritzker family funds Transgenderism causes

[@cheshirelizzy]

My friend’s son was severely injured by Mermaids. The woman who runs it is deeply wicked.

[@RaptorFromWeegee]

@@cheshirelizzy Are you talking about Susie Green? How is she "wicked"? She has four adult children, including one who is transgender herself. In 2017, she was honored with a Ted Talk about her experiences obtaining gender-affirming surgery for her eldest child at age 16. She's met with and been honored by members of the British royal family for her contributions to the mental health sector in the U.K. If she was truly "deeply wicked", as you put it, they'd never have honored her.

[@jamesswindells5628]

They honored jimmy saville too.

[@jamesswindells5628]

Wasn't jimmy saville honored too?

[@Crosses3]

Wait a second, just because a girl wants to be masculine doesn’t mean she is lesbian, same with a boy being feminine not absolutely being gay. I was a tomboy, grew up in rural USA and enjoyed being outside, climbing trees, etc. I am and always have been heterosexual. The boys just seemed to do more fun things and I wanted to do those things. I only mention this because telling a kid that they aren’t trans is needed, but don’t reinforce a sexual preference upon them while doing that.

[@ladyalaina42]

Me too. Just followed my elder brothers!

[@hotdog1214]

That's true. However one of the whistle-blowers at the Tavistock clinic revealed that up to 90% of the teens that were referred had indicated they were struggling with their sexuality, that they were experiencing same sex attraction and they either were confused (as is normal) or because of family / social environments had been taught that is was dirty or wrong to be gay. Some parents were quoted as having said they took their child to the clinic because they "didn't want a gay son and would prefer a straight daughter" - in their minds they saw it as some sort of correction for gayness. The staff even had a dark joke "at the rate we are going, there will be no gay people left". In general, absolutely, a tomboy or femboy, or having likes that are stereotypically associated with the opposite sex, doesn't necessarily correlate to being gay in adult life, but in this clinic it overwhelmingly was - the rest was down to underlying mental health conditions. I agree with your sentiment, don't tell them they are trans, don't tell them they are anything but just help them if they are struggling or confused to explain that what they feel is normal and whether they grow up to be gay, straight or whatever, they will come to it own their own as every human being before them has done.

[@r_shan2506]

When I was a young girl and teenager I didn’t want to be a girl. I didn’t want period, kids, breasts and the idea of sex was terrifying to me. I thought I was ugly and to have more things would make me uglier. I know I would have been a good target. On top I wasn’t interested in boys until I was 17 and this was definitely considered unusual (when a school friend was pregnant at 16). It wasn’t until I turned 19 that I accepted myself for who I was and tried to love being a woman. I have 2 kids and I adore them. I’d always say to them “it takes time to find who you are and to accept yourself”. Mutilating children is not the way and is barbaric. If I had someone to talk to (not my parents because they didn’t feel comfortable about this topic) I don’t think I would have hated myself so much and struggled as a kid. I am so sorry for these children not getting help and just being told it will all get better with drugs and mutilation.

[@hestadickeos6043]

I agree with you 100 % It's disgraceful.

[@hotdog1214]

💯 Feel I've seen similar stories to this countless times, it seems quite a common experience that we adults may have had as youngsters. It is a sad state of affairs that instead o explaining better to the adolescents, that this is indeed normal, and though they may find it hard now, it will get better and you will find yourself, its straight to the drugs cabinet. 4 out of 5 young people who are struggling in this way get past it by going through the natural process of puberty; basically it is the "cure" for this state of being and mind. For the 1 out of 5 I am sure that there must be a way to help them as well, to continue with counselling and exploring all options but to treat all in the same way is illogical and as has been known for a while but is now public thanks to Cass, is causing great harms to an entire generation. Very sad but hopefully now it is in the open it will cease.

[@debbieneville7146]

If the NHS has promoted transgender surgery and mutilated thousands of children, are they going to offer free counselling and ongoing health care for these victims?

[@hestadickeos6043]

Good question!!

[@louiseparker1915]

Qualified medical workers - “We were just following orders)!

[@jujutrini8412]

Do they even know what happens to the human brain during puberty?

[@r-platt]

Yes. Did you have a concern?

[@joce11]

One study done on sheep showed cognitive impairment. Also, doctors already know the human body needs to go through puberty for the body and brain to develop. They knew.

[@zgobermn6895]

There must be accountability, for the justice of the children!

[@robertcreighton4635]

Who is telling kids about suicide? When i was young no kid at my school popped their own clogs.

[@georgesears2916]

It's called the internet, duh.

[@SamuelBlack84]

Nobody took their own life when I was at school to my knowledge A girl in my class did die of cancer, poor girl

[@oliverhug3]

Individuals like Rachel Levine. He still claims "trans healthcare" is life saving.

[@danoyse8233]

My mother used the expression, ‘little piggies have big ears’. If she had something private to say , she said it privately to my father, or whichever adult was in the conversation. Children now are exposed to tv shows, early soaps reference the situation. TV are on so much of the time. Internet, gossip, bullying. Not that these haven’t been going on for many years. If a conversation was to be had with a child it was said in language we could understand. All this puberty blockers, surgery and hormone treatment seems to have run before it could walk. Where is ‘evidence based practice’, which is what 47 years of NHS nursing had drummed into me.where’s are the studies, the evidence, the consequences published. This needs proper exposure. Confronting properly. Thankfully now we have Dr. Cass’s report we should look at it and listen to her. During my career, I managed care of 2 adults, in there 60’s who had sex change management years ago. One drank himself to death, wanting to go ‘back’ within a few years of having change done. The other lived a miserable isolated life. Very difficult to see ‘used’ people.

[@sannywicca7504]

finally a real doctor who did research in a good way

[@dean6816]

Glad people are starting to come to their senses!!

[@Theresaisabiologicalwoman]

In 10 years these so called Dr's and nurses are going to be beyond hated because of the mess they have caused 😡

[@georgesears2916]

In 10 years we might all be transhuman on some level. I doubt this controversy will still exist by then 🤔 🙂

[@jaywilliams8147]

All these children need is counselling not indoctrination and acceptance of an ideology that is spreading like an hysteria.

[@georgesears2916]

You know hysteria is Greek for wandering womb...

[@mht5875]

That is precisely how Transgenderism will be viewed fifty years from now

[@christopherduggan6272]

Totally agree with remarks by Kate Barker. Gender expression is a wide spectrum. You can be a masculine female or an effeminate male. There's no need to take life-changing drugs or undergo permanent bodily mutilation in response to that. For a population so concerned about binary and non-binary, it's ironic how they funnel kids into a gender binary based on the wide spectrum of gender expression.

[@jujutrini8412]

Spot on. People need to stop being so obsessed with labels and stereotypes. Gender is BS as it can be displayed in different ways in different era and different localities as it is indeed a social construct ie totally made up! We need to stop even using the word gender. Sex on the other hand is a biological reality and its determination is the same as for any other mammal.

[@DorianPaige00]

I'm a gay male and use estrogen since I've been castrated to maintain my youthful traits. Somehow a bald flamer wasn't what I envisioned. You can act feminine or masculine regardless of body type. We want a different body type or in my case I didn't want it to change into that of a man.

[@Gingerblaze]

@@DorianPaige00 and yet you are one. No amount of medical body modification will change that.

[@maryjo3550]

This whole trans issue is so bad! Its the most disgusting monstrous procedure! Doctor's preforming these surgeries should be arrested!

[@Jay-vm7xr]

That clinic needs to be closed down immediately and not just the gender clinic, in my opinion. Previously seen BBC programme showing the most horrific counselling practices.

[@firequeen7872]

This is great but the brain washing by schools and gvt departments also urgently need addressing.

[@DonswatchingtheTube]

The WHO is ultimately to blame because they issued the directive not to classify dysphoria as a condition. Everything else stems from this, the legislation, the health professionals, the politicians, and the educators, leaving any dissenting voice including parents outside of the law. What happens to those physically affected? What happens to those who suffered for objecting?

[@afraidtosay8471]

In some countries no doctor ever accepted such things. Im scared to live here now

[@spalding1968]

It was the NHS that decided that “ affirming” the child’s own diagnosis was the only approach to use with gender dysphoria. I hate all this false hang wringing. We know exactly what had happened and it’s still happening now !

[@r-platt]

Ah, yes. "Gender affirming" must mean the child is the doctor. You know because you've studied politics. Don't look at the actual evidence or the actual standards. Don't look at how overloaded the Tavistock center was. Don't take _any_ facts into account if they don't fit your narrative. Lie twice, cheat once and it all makes sense.

[@b19bry]

Where is Peter Tatchell ? He was for ever on Talk TV and so vocal in these discussions promoting Stonewall's stance ?

[@MajesticJoshua]

Probably trying to find a way in which to spin this isn’t a positive.

[@private_soul]

Yeh he was given alot of air time...where is he now? And other the other more gobby ones

[@timwilliams9003]

The headline misleads: Children NOT liable to suicide' etc

[@gisellemagraibhaigh8342]

If people can't see that this is eugenics targeted directly at young autistic children, i despair!! The "final solution" for a massive new population of kids who need resources *spent* on them for well-being, instead flipping it horribly to manipulate a *profit*

[@notaclue822]

These people who've promoted this should be brought to justice.

[@user-vm3xe5hp6d]

My sister was a bit of a tomboy, very at lectic. however after puberty she continued playing sports but she became interested in boys and today is happily married with two children. It is something that one can grow out of for some kids, but how are you going to know who will grow out of it if you don't leave them alone . If after they are adults and want to go down that road that their business.

[@mdmurray17]

Because 1.5 million children are in the waiting list. Why are qe not willing to address the causes of mental illness ? One in four chikdren needing psychiatric care is not normal

[@jujutrini8412]

The government and society can’t be bothered to deal with that.

[@Gingerblaze]

Seems the medical and psychiatric profession is most in need of "mental health" care. It appears it is very sick indeed.

[@GreenWhitePurple]

Do they all need psychiatric care, though? Another current conditioning of children is to make them think about their mental health all day long and encourage them to report that they have issues. Combine that with not being taught resilience/seeing that being a victim gets you points…. mental health crisis.

[@mdmurray17]

@@GreenWhitePurple No of course they dont. That was my point. Why are the anxious and depressed - because they are sleep deprived , addicted to social media, online porn, caffeine and nicotine. None of that is changed by a psychiatric review or a diagnosis of ADHD - it just gives them a hall pass. But at some point these will have to be functioning members of society as we cant cope with millions of people hiding behind " social anxiety" and take the rest of their life off.

[@joce11]

​@@mdmurray17Quite agree. I'm not saying the following applies to every parent but a sizeable number of these kids lack decent parenting and also society has changed to the point where children are treated almost like adults which is wrong on so many levels.

[@IdaKiss]

"The overall meta-analytical prevalence for transsexualism was 4.6 in 100,000 individuals; 6.8 for trans women and 2.6 for trans men." - says a meta-analysis published in 2020. This is 46 trans persons for 1 million. How is it possible, that such a tiny number of people could turn the world upside down? Who is behind them, and what is the hidden agenda of these people? (Systematic review and meta-analysis of prevalence studies in transsexualism. Jon Arcelus, MD, PhD1,2, Walter Pierre Bouman MD1 , Wim Van Den Noorgate PhD3 etc. EURPSY-D-15-00036R1)

[@danielspillett5393]

Because they were activist medical professionals not medical professionals

[@Gingerblaze]

"Educated" by activist professors in ideologically captured institutions.

[@ViewerOnline101]

So where's the mass wave of "self-deletion" all across human history for these people that have never gotten the drugs and surgery? Where is it in the countries and states where such things have been banned?

[@BloodHead-]

A person who secretly stops eating or purges and loses weight, and receives all kinds of praise for how good they look, their minds can be easily tricked into continuing the process to the detriment of their health. The same seems to be true with people, children and young adults, who receive all kinds of support for questioning, and/or are told by a friends that "I've always felt that about you" can easily be convinced to transition and then they start the process, and receive even more praise. And more praise from professionals. We all want praise! Children learn through positive reinforcement. On the job, a worker receiving praise can spur great work and advancement, BUT, praise, though we'll intentioned, that leads toward self destruction is what we are fighting, and IMO, is the biggest roadblock that gender affirmation supporters cannot or will not see or accept. This is NOT a single diagnosis. This is also a spectrum of disorders. Is she a tomboy or a boy; Is he effeminate or a girl. Dies he like lace? Is he gay? Maybe she... and so it goes. Now we have a Hollywood bandwagon - and parents are scared.

[@TheOnlineConsumer]

WHAT A SURPRISE!!! 👏👏👏👏👏

[@alexs6250]

Small group of aggressive activists and medical science gives in. It's a nightmare

[@icedminttea2934]

Yup. I knew that years ago.

[@slobberdan8428]

It’s like saying, ‘the children will commit suicide if they cannot breathe in a bag full of asbestos’. What utter nonsense.

[@normabead.9600]

This is what parents are fed and children say to try and get their own way. Parents are literally scared to death with nowhere to turn. The NHS went along with this, it’s deep in our schools, it’s deep in Social Service’s. Parents simply do not understand it or how to handle it.

[@GreggGiblin-sy5og]

It's a shame it had to come to this. Regardless, like children can't consent, for their own good, with sex with an adult, kids can't consent to surgery and puberty blockers.

[@hospitalsgivingpatientsdan8894]

Secondary sex characteristics not more important than primary

[@Mr.JoeBangles]

suicide is not a verb

[@Happydays478]

Preyed upon venerable children

[@kilroy1964]

This video is woefully under viewed.

[@georginawhitby1320]

Very important points made by the guests- but shame on your KZbin headline writer for reinforcing the lies that extort parents and others into accepting child sterilization. Do better - write headlines that don't reinforce the lies to the casual viewer scrolling through. A good conversation, but sadly opposite message to the public via bad headline writing .

[@sunlightofthelord1709]

Nah.

[@SamuelBlack84]

Gender care, for gods sake Kids need care for being the gender that they are and to be denied damaging drugs that screw up their dna will result in their self harm? Sometimes, I wonder what would have happened had I had children and the human race had my genetics sprinkled into the mix I like to think it would have given humanity a kick up the backside

[@DorianPaige00]

Mama Cass made this John Hopkins a thousand times over with disregard for the patients who do actually benefit. Why the broad brush (all bad, all good)? That method is not responsible without a recommendation of what to do with the people who are already in the pipeline. When John Hopkins closed in 1979 there was politics, religion, and a change of personnel in management that made that shift. We unfortunately need maintenance meds and now will be pushed to the black market and hustlers. We don't deserve to be arrested and categorized as addictive drug addicts but that to will come to pass. If they could take it away from minors, they will in no doubt apply it to adults within a few months.

[@Gingerblaze]

No, I don't think so. If ones gonads have been removed they can no longer produce their own sex hormones which means they will need exogenous hormones now. For those who have retained their own ovaries or testicles, there is no need to take exogenous ones.

[@GreenWhitePurple]

Oh my goodness, the hyperbole. No-one is arresting you for being a drug addict and that’s hardly likely to happen in future. If you’re already on meds they’ll either continue or they’ll be tapered off and you’ll be given other treatments. Did you not hear what the review says? That you should get evidenced based, holistic treatment. And that this big experiment of giving people drugs with unknown effects should be run properly, instead of just going ahead with no evidence. How can you argue against that? The Tavistock Clinic staff were the hustlers.

[@20quid]

I don't get it, this guy can barely dress himself, his hair's a mess, and we're supposed to just treat him as some sort of authority on how the rest of us should be living our lives?

[@sh.4409]

Bullshit!

[@Mr-sn2ni]

Let it unfold. If the kids regret it later, that's their tough luck.

[@GreenWhitePurple]

I don’t want to pay for the NHS treatment, or the lawsuits, thanks. Oh, and I think children should be kept safe, minor point.

[@raniburtenshaw1619]

So why hasn’t any one been arrested for abuse of children!!! So disgusted

[@jenniferplatts174]

Kate, you are so right in what u say...a wicked ideology indeed. We know women are targeted with these self ID i am a women crap, but children being pushed and manipulated into thinking that they need to morph into someone they are not. Blame social media leading to this social contagion and female seem to play into this. Great interview, thank you.

[@sandydenman6083]

Women are still socialized to be "nice" and accepting and mothering. And once they accept the message that affirmation is the only acceptable way to respond to claims of self-ID transgenderism, they take on the mama bear role to "protect their cubs". That's why it seems like women are playing into the whole scheme. The only way to get back to common sense is to show these women that there are many ways to be kind while also not advocating for harmful bodily mutilation for children. As for adults who decide to transition, let them do what they want, but they should also pay for it.