CHILDREN OF DUNE - Review

[@poopooman-q7r]

This is my interpretation of dune; good and bad (evil) do not exist in the universe and therefore have no meaning in nature. They are purely a human construct. dune uses this logic, which is what makes it amazing. everyone does their own thing, they all have plans within plans, they manipulate, persuade, and take advantage of their circumstances at all times.

[@cloudbloom]

The Golden Path is the symbiosis with the worms (as well as the power that would grant) and Paul was terrified of that vision because there is a very very great cost to such a decision which you won't know until after book 4. Leto II literally is the only one who would be able to do it besides Paul so that's where you get the idea of hubris from Leto, Paul saw that as an option in his visions and was almost repulsed by it so he chose not to go that route. But Leto knew that if he did things right he could enact peace through the sacrifice of symbiosis with the worm. His memories and supreme control of his metabolism (like a bene gesseret) allowed him to graft the sandtrout to himself. "My skin is not my own"

[@jalanblakes]

The reason why the worms assimilated to leto, is because he has a very high potency of spice in his blood. So the baby trouts latch on that aspect with makes the sand-worm armor/skin.

[@marocat4749]

And aa symbiotic one at that.

[@jalanblakes]

@@marocat4749 mhm. Essentially what that is💯

[@hab0272]

When you go get some milk in the desert because you dont want to be the next worm-man superhero. Understandable.

[@sidu3099]

The conflict between Leto and Paul is so interesting. Can you really change the world to the better or will your actions bring tragedy, even if youre aiming for galactic peace.. Love your reviews, keep it up!

[@PeloquinDavid]

It's been a few years since I (re)read "Children", but my take on it then was that it (and not "Messiah") marked the end of Paul's "modern Greek tragedy" of a story arc. It also struck me as marking the passing of the burden of the curse of prescience from Paul to his son. (The "Golden Path" is a deeply ironic name for the sacrifice Leto makes because his dad chose not to.) In a way, the multi-generational nature of the tragedy (akin to the ORIGINAL multigenerational curse on the Atreides family from Greek myth) relates to another of Paul's "fatal flaws": his "feet of clay" in not sacrificing himself (and his humanity), but instead forcing that sacrifice onto his own son. You can't get more "Greek tragedy" than the interlinked tragedies of Paul, his sister Alia and his son Leto (whose story continues as the "God Emperor" in the next book).

[@kotorandcorvid4968]

I'll never get over the fact there is a canon species in the duneverse called laser tigers Okay, it's spelled laza tigers but still

[@cloudbloom]

Technically they're called Laza tigers

[@RealLifeRyan]

I just want tigers with frickin laser beams attached to their heads

[@evelynrobinson3573]

I have been clickijg on these videos so fast when the notification comes through

[@9709Nick]

If you liked Children, you'll love God Emperor. It's apeshit nuts, but it's awesome!

[@RealLifeRyan]

Can’t wait! 🪱

[@knyx9913]

You’ll love God Emperor

[@RealLifeRyan]

Excited for it! 🪱

[@ROMANTIKILLER2]

Ryan is ready for that insanity.

[@marocat4749]

:D

[@VampireA1056]

Duneverse, very clever

[@nobodyhere8257]

Indeed

[@grenenjaex5342]

Starting God-emperor tomorrow, how convenient …

[@ThymeTwister]

Leto is... terrifying. There's no other word for it. He's very smart, very powerful, very driven, and psychologically very alien. Even reading from his perspective early on you can see that this is a terrifying character that isn't predictable, and yet can predict every thing you'll do and account for it and engineer any situation to his favour. And he's 9. His scenes in Jacurutu really help highlight that, where he's literally just the body of a 9-year old but he manipulates everyone around him. Then when he takes the sandtrout onto him, he becomes unstoppable. He destroys a dam single-handedly, and somehow that's just a side-note to Leto. It's also very interesting that it's very heavily implied that he's definitely Abomination, and yet he had control over it (specifically Harum, that mythological original despot).

[@sammalla5238]

Farad'n was my favorite new character from the book. Very tragic like Paul but i enjoyed his story Jessica absolutely stole the show in this one after being completely absent from Messiah. I was somewhat disappointed with Alia's conclusion after the initial read but her character is even more tragic than Farad'n & Paul combined and it was hinted all the way back in the very first Book Like i told you, the philosophical aspects increase ten-fold in this one especially with Leto II's character but GEoD is something else... Can't wait for that review & hopefully you'll continue onwards✌️

[@Kwisatz-Chaderach]

Farad'n is very cool.

[@cpmf2112]

To me Leto isn't arrogant because he really does know better than anyone else due to the accumulated wisdom of his memories. He knows what works and more importantly what doesn't work through direct knowledge of millions of actual historical events covering every type of situation in human history. He doesn't know everything, but he has less chance of being wrong than anyone before him in history.

[@JBarG22]

Paul could've followed the Golden Path himself, but he had not the courage, so he left it for his son. From my interpretation, Leto II's version of the Golden Path was much more bloody and worse than Paul's version, so he not only left his son to sacrifice himself for humanity, but ended making him go through much more pain than himself would had

[@JBarG22]

For some reason, it appears that in Heretics of Dune, there's a throwaway line calling Paul's first son as Leto III, but it is just mentioned once and never again

[@DonRubio21]

Do you mean Paul’s actual first son that died in the first book as an infant ?

[@JBarG22]

@DonRubio21 yes, from my understanding from the context, they're talking about him

[@DonRubio21]

@@JBarG22 that’s very interesting I’ll keep a look out for that line when I read heretics, just finished god emperor of dune last week

[@justadude9653]

i also just finished children of dune like 2 weeks ago and started god emperor you're going to love it might be my favorite book from the series

[@cpmf2112]

Since you have finished Children of Dune, maybe consider watching the Dune and Children of Dune miniseries which came out in 2000 and 2003 respectively. The extended editions were quite good, far better than the recent Dunis crap.

[@tylerpederson1894]

Paul also says that he didnt know that humans would become extinct if the golden path didn’t happen because he didnt look that far while leto did. It had to happen to save humanity and wasn’t based on ego.

[@stefanlazar2606]

To an extent what leto did is pretty similar to loki season 2(the ending I mean), sacrificing himself to give humanity the chance to choose for themselves(eventually).

[@MaxPaynefan1]

This one was okay, really good moments, I loved when Leto gained his powers, it was something we haven't seen in the Dune series, but man some parts were hard to get through. I really didn't like when Leto was asked a basic question, and he would start yapping and yapping, it was fine at first, but it kept on happening, where everything Leto said was super vague, and was talking in circles.

[@callmebill4054]

so glad your reading dune !! Can’t wait for the God Emperor review

[@JBarG22]

Children of Dune is my favorite book from the entire Dune series

[@nicokrasnow1851]

Leto II is the best PS: In regards to him being Ego-driven (as a Pre-born he didn't have much of an Ego to begin with), it wasn't like that, it's just that only a Kwisatz Haderach has the prescience to see the Golden Path and body control to go into the sandworm metamorphosis. The only choices were him and Paul, Paul didn't have the emotional strenght to do that self-sacrifice because in Let's words he wasn't Fremen enough. And Ghanima wasn't a KH, she had the same memories and body control as Leto but lacked that level of prescience.

[@justsomeguywithlonghair6595]

Great book review Ryan. I think You should read “Among The Hidden” and review that I think you love the shadow children series

[@JBarG22]

The many attempts to take the Sandworms out of Arrakis failed because every other planet was far too wet to maintain Sandworms so they all died out with time and no other Arrakis was created

[@Artoosa]

Dune really is the father of all the suphero/sci-fi storylines mixed in with some spice tripping. Absolutely thoroughly enjoy these reviews and might be the next best thing you do on the channel besides Berserk. I read these first 3, 2 or so years ago but never picked up the next, maybe I'll read it before you make the reviews!

[@jtownjumpcity5937]

Bro. They are all amazing. It’s a shame that he died. He was setting up some amazing storytelling after Chapter House. Love ya man.

[@ROMANTIKILLER2]

I liked Children, even though I also felt that a certain point towards the middle had started dragging a bit, but then as usual things went ballistic. Looking forward to hear your thoughts on God Emperor, which is very unique. Meanwhile, I've just started Heretics.

[@vvss5201]

Been loving these Dune reviews. Hope you review more books series, when you finish Dune!

[@Karim-8055]

Man you are a fast reader for real, I am still on the beginning pages of the first book- I'll have to save these reviews to my 'watch later' playliat 😂

[@InfamyOrDeath-__-]

What way would that work in reality if you’re a kid but have the memories of other people? Are you still a child? Are you multiple people? What way would a brain make sense of that?

[@jynniferspencer861]

Would it be like the Avatar the Airbender, like an elder Vampire, or maybe like Doctor Who?

[@marocat4749]

@@jynniferspencer861 Avatar is actually different personalities that work together. In a good case, and aang can turn it on and off. More like unwilling knowledge which affect you.

[@AndréVilaFranca]

My favorite book in the series thus far. I still have to read Heretics of Dune and Chapter House.

[@renemarcelgrewe417]

I also started reading the series after part 2 and now just finished children of Dune and love to watch your reviews directly afterwards. Looking forward to the next one while I also continue with God Emporeror of Dune. But I must say, yes Chessica is an interesting character, but I also hate her for abandon Alia out of fear but still assist Paul in the second book. Its human but still i dislike her for that. At last I wanted to ask you about your opinion on Farahd´n? I found him as a character and to return to Salusa very interesting and to see him as this historian and reasonable young man and that he kinda goes a similiar way that Paul did, by being trained by Chessica. And the revelation that he wrote some of the comments which seperated the "chapters" in this book.

[@dlbhbr3000]

I'm really curious to see what you think of the fourth book. Not only is it extremely strange, but the writing style is completely different from the first trilogy. I always like to compare it to Nietzsche's Thus Spoke Zarathustra. Only in space. With giant worm-human-things and lesbians.

[@cloudbloom]

One step closer to book 4🙏

[@soulsboyrne]

G E O D ! G E O D ! Can’t wait man. Great review

[@InfamyOrDeath-__-]

I can’t read books anymore, I only want to read manga. So well done getting through 600 pages haha.

[@JBarG22]

Farad'n is actually Shaddam IV's grandson, not son

[@johnhallman3611]

Really enjoying your book reviews. If you want to read a story with morally grey characters, I recommend the dark fantasy trilogy "The First Law."

[@yourstrulyjohnnydollar8775]

I am definitely in the God Emperor is about as good as the first book camp, but in fairness, a lot of people also do not enjoy it.

[@ObiClon]

This the next book I intend to read in the series.

[@Dularr]

Leto II the elder and Leto Ii the younger.

[@travisgray8376]

God Emperor of Dune is my favourite so be awesome if U read it it's the best.

[@chrismiller8622]

Next up GOD EMPEROR and following that , you'll meet one of the baddest badasses ever and sex battles !!

[@JJBrown258]

Lets go boys, here after the Dune Messiah review.. now its this then god emperor review right after 💪🏾

[@sabojezles]

It is really great book. Nice review, man, as always.

[@FanGirl9463]

Oh boy shit about to get weirder than weird.

[@quantumrelativity3849]

Loved this book but next one is my favourite

[@mingo8379]

Just finished it don’t know if it’s recent bias but it’s definitely my favorite

[@AtomicDoorknob]

children of dune goes fuckin HARD!!

[@hazardhousemusic5681]

Bro how do you read so fast lol asking genuinely I have studying to do

[@VidaAlexandru]

Thank you for the review, I'm in the same place as you, finished the Children of Dune book and just started the God Emperor!

[@oleksandrbyelyenko435]

Oh... And I still haven't finished the first one 😂😂😂😅😅😅

[@thatsfederal55]

Yeah, that’s cool and all, but do you feed the fish?

[@higginswalsan]

Ryan about to pass me up

[@lucavenn]

God emperor will blow you away

[@veganandatheist]

It's been 3 months or so.

[@Kwisatz-Chaderach]

Its pretty darn good.

[@KhaleeltheCooterCatRealness]

Milk in the desert! 😂😂😂

[@-MrFozzy-]

BOOM…..algorithm

[@chirongodemperorof4127]

You will be confused #4. That ok.

[@gutsy6390]

W