Chilkey ND75 | Latency, Review, Sound Tests | A New Standard Is Set

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THOCCnology

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@zEDo1
@zEDo1 4 ай бұрын
I just wanna let you know that your videos provide much needed info for anyone looking to buy a board. That's how I found your channel. I appreciate your work!
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
This is so good to hear, thank you so much for your comment!
@ranzarloys
@ranzarloys Ай бұрын
This is the most useful video about this keyboard that I could find on KZbin. Thank you. You were able to contain the maximum amount of useful information in these 7 minutes. Keep doing it!
@thoccnology
@thoccnology Ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
@IvanRodriguez-ot6yl
@IvanRodriguez-ot6yl 4 ай бұрын
Man your videography is so good! that outside intro was awesome. Your lighting and sharpness in your videos while simple is so pleasing to watch.
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! ^-^ I was also surprised how interesting the outside photography turned out to be, I think I'll do it more often if the weather allows :)
@nebulazykbs
@nebulazykbs 4 ай бұрын
I'm so excited by the latency on this keyboard! I saw the blue color and knew I needed it. I did order it on Dangkeebs tho, cos I wanted the 1.6mm non-flex cut PCB. I can't wait to get it! It's sooo pretty
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
I totally understand, I hope all the vendors will offer the 1.6mm version soon. Non-flex is getting more and more popular I think! I hope you'll love this blue IRL too (to be honest it's impossible not to love it :3)
@StillthatguyJake
@StillthatguyJake 4 ай бұрын
I'm really looking forward to this board arriving. I have some of it's similarly priced and more expensive competitors and I'm anxious to see how I feel about it. Your review was fantastic and I appreciate the time you took to go over everything in detail. I have the blue and black ordered and on the way so I'll likely be trying some new switches in them soon! Thanks for always making such great videos.
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
It'd be interesting to hear your personal experience after comparing them to your other boards. I don't have too many super expensive keyboards but I have a feeling that with the recent changes on the market, these boards will be able to compete (and even be on-par) with the former $2-300 keyboards. But I'd love someone to confirm it. Thank you for your comment! ^^
@StillthatguyJake
@StillthatguyJake 4 ай бұрын
@thoccnology I don't have any super expensive boards but we'll see how the ND75 stacks up against the Neo boards and other aluminum boards. I'll send you some love when I do my reviews
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
@@StillthatguyJake Looking forward to seeing your review and comparison! ^^
@SarveshNaik5
@SarveshNaik5 3 ай бұрын
You are best when it comes to keyboard reviews. No yapping only pure content.
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 3 ай бұрын
Aww, thank you so much!
@bricekim
@bricekim 3 ай бұрын
you have one of the best and in depth keyboard reviews without there even being voice. thanks!
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 3 ай бұрын
You're so kind, thank you so much!
@TAZAKEY
@TAZAKEY 4 ай бұрын
Super 이끌림 Loved the video 🌞
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
Oh my, thank you so much!
@TomDeering
@TomDeering 4 ай бұрын
Your videos are so beautifully made and so darn useful! Thank you! ❤
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
That's so kind, thank you so much!
@georgiegirl7623
@georgiegirl7623 4 ай бұрын
Hi! I discovered your channel not too long ago. Your reviews are very informative while also catering to the type of keyboard aesthetic I'm into. A perfect combination imo. 😂 I'm in such a quandary. My ears are very particular and picky when it comes to sound. Being newish to the mechanical keyboard community I like the thocky, marbly sound you get from the Leobog 75/Hi8 but I'm finding I NEED that clack at the finish and it just isn't quite there for me on the Leobog boards sadly. So I settled on getting the Aula 75 because I thought that was the best of both worlds since I favor just a bit more clack. But then THIS keyboard drops and now I'm wondering what keycap/switch potential there is which I haven't seen people experiment with on KZbin yet for sound tests. Also, the spacebar sounds AMAZING on this keyboard with all the foam. Without it has that same hollow cavernous sound that I can't stand. 😂 I felt the same pain with Leobog and Aula unfortunately so now I have spacebar mod videos saved so I can mitigate that a bit. 😅 That being said which would you recommend? Aula 75 or the ND75? 🤔
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
Oh, that's so flattering to hear, thank you so much for the praise!
@kerfuritogonzales
@kerfuritogonzales 4 ай бұрын
Looks absolutely amazing and great value overall, I do prefer the sound of leobogs or rainy tho, maybe comparison including the same switches in those three? Btw is it possible to do some closeups on the alu finish on these? I would love to see how they compare. Also there is yet another budget keeb coming out, Bridge 75, I wonder if it holds up.
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
That's a good idea, thank you! I'll include my Hiexa V75 too, I think it'll be a good competitor too! I wish I could get my hands on a Bridge75!
@Shivartin
@Shivartin 4 ай бұрын
Wow, the mech keyboard quality vs price moved so much in two years. Two years ago, I bought my first mechanical keyboard: Redragon K530 Pro. I changed switches, added foam, lubed and adjusted stabilizers, changed keycaps. I spent more money on that keyboard and it will never sound as good as the ND75. I am not mad. I had a lot of fun learning all the steps. I am just so happy that this is the new standard now :). I like the all foam and silica gel no foam sound signatures.
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
I feel the same! Looking back, so much money was spent on keyboards that now don't seem so worth it. You're right, it's better to experiment with such keyboards and get the grasp of all kinds of mods! ^^ Also, from a macroeconomic perspective, I think it was necessary. It showed manufacturers that this is a living market with changing needs, making it worth their while to put in the effort and ensure competition. At least that's what I tell myself to validate all the spending. :D
@AllelineNguyen
@AllelineNguyen 3 ай бұрын
These are superb features at under $100, especially the screw-less case. The sound profile is also good (though I'm not a fan of the switch that it comes with). The only down side is these don't seem to support VIA or QMK, which some people really need. It's good that you keep highlighting these killer budget boards which are continuously setting new standards for the market.
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 3 ай бұрын
I agree, I hope it's only the start of a new trend in keyboards! Luckily, it seems it's true and newly released keyboards are getting better and better!
@kkkromm24
@kkkromm24 4 ай бұрын
Insane wired latency. I just preordered the 1.6mm version coming this July Can’t wait for this
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
Oh, nice, probably that's gonna sound even better imo!
@tsukkomigordo
@tsukkomigordo 4 ай бұрын
Im still waiting for my rainy75 to arrive but now I wanna order this as well... It looks so high quality for the price.
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
I get this feeling too! Tiny differences that make me want both of them
@useduction
@useduction 4 ай бұрын
I preordered this exact keyboard in April, and I am still waiting for it to arrive by SHIP. Yes, you heard it right! By ship to US from CN!
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
Pre-orders sometimes have quite long production periods. :/ I hope it arrives soon to your place!
@obudu_
@obudu_ 4 ай бұрын
Great video as always. I received the Leobog Hi75 last week and really liked the sound with SOA keycaps that you recommended. Now this keyboard has new tech, aluminum body and very great sound, how would you compare it with Leobog Hi75? I could still return the Leobog since it's still in return period. But I really liked SOA keycap with Nimbus switch. Looking forward to hearing from you. Thank you.
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
I don't think I will ever sell my Hi75 (currently I own 2pcs). They're legends at this point, and are very, very good. Pros in Hi75 over ND75: it has a volume knob which is my absolutely preferred layout, and has SOA keycaps which I find very comfortable and great-sounding Pros in ND75 over Hi75: has a screen, has 3-mode connection, and has the ball-catch opening+magnetic connector which might be convenient if you mod the internals of your keyboard very often All the other aspects are almost identical, so if you feel that some of these properties are more important than others, you can choose that exact keyboard based on that. ^-^
@obudu_
@obudu_ 4 ай бұрын
@@thoccnology Thank you for your great input. Yes, I totally agree with volume knob in Hi75. Looks like I am going to keep Hi75. I really appreciate your advice.
@glokta1
@glokta1 4 ай бұрын
@@thoccnology Hey, how would you compare ND75 to the Aula F75?
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
@@glokta1 If you prefer plastic case over aluminium, or have a tighter budget, the Aula F75 is a good choice. But if you want to get into keyboard modding, I'd say definitely go with the ND75 instead, the new opening design will make your life so much easier. Also, I prefer alu cases, as they are more sturdy and less prone to damages.
@glokta1
@glokta1 4 ай бұрын
@@thoccnology Great, thanks a lot for the reply. This will be my first mechanical keyboard so I think I'll go with the ND75
@hereplease1818
@hereplease1818 Ай бұрын
That intro is fire!!!!!
@thoccnology
@thoccnology Ай бұрын
Thank you! ^-^
@tsukkomigordo
@tsukkomigordo 3 ай бұрын
I got the Rainy75 for myself and the ND75 for my brother. The ND75 has great features but I have to say the Rainy75 just feels nicer and the sound is a lot clearer and poppier. Both are great keyboards but I would place the rainy above the nd75.
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experience! I'll try to make a comparison including those two in the near future. I can see what you're referring to with the clearer sound - for me it feels like if the case was using a different thickness/cast or even the different finish would affect the sound.
@tsukkomigordo
@tsukkomigordo 2 ай бұрын
@@thoccnology A video comparing all the recent 75% keyboards would be awesome! Hipyo cant be the only opinion we get lol. Yeah I tried the ND75 dopamine blue switches in the rainy and vice versa and both were poppier in the rainy. Mostly becausy of case thickness and foam I wonder.
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 2 ай бұрын
@@tsukkomigordo Oh, interesting! Do you have the PC plate version of the Rainy? I found that FR4 plates usually promote higher-pitched sounds of switches.
@tsukkomigordo
@tsukkomigordo 2 ай бұрын
@@thoccnology It was just on the standard Rainy violet switch model with pc plate.
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 2 ай бұрын
@@tsukkomigordo Ah, yeah, the PC is more likely to deepen the switch sounds (or at least they're not as poppy as they would be in an FR4 or alu plate)
@stellanova522
@stellanova522 4 ай бұрын
I love it TuT ! I think i made the right choice for a first board. I gotta say im a little sad i didnt get the Blue because it looks AMAZING, and the white i saw on another review was not as bright as i would have hoped :p Either way, i love everything about it, the dongle storage is a bit of a miss but i will be using it wired so nothing ill really be needing personally. I will probably keep mine stock but im glad i can easily try things out with the easy disassembly ^^ Thanks for the review as always :3 I really like the opening beauty shots :D Now i just gotta wait for mine to arrive x.x
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
Don't worry, the White was the safe choice imo! I hope designers will find a way to solve the dongle storage issue (or at least when they lose a dongle themselves x)).
@almosaxton
@almosaxton 3 ай бұрын
Will you be testing the Bridge75? I'm interested to see how it compares latency wise!
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 3 ай бұрын
I'm super interested too, but I just can't get my hands on one. They are postponing the EU vendors and the international shipping is just too much. If you can ask directly on Shortcut Studio's Discord server for my review, I think they would consider sending me a unit.
@CsTruth
@CsTruth 2 ай бұрын
hi, were you able to upload gif using their software? for my case, they only allowed jpg or png files. Feelsbadman
@MarbsMusic
@MarbsMusic 4 ай бұрын
I just love your channel! Price to performance in 2024 is just amazing,, I just have to stop buying so many!.
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
@MarbsMusic
@MarbsMusic 3 ай бұрын
@@thoccnology I got my purple ND75 in today and I have to say I'm quite impressed! Thank you for cluing me onto this keyboard!
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 3 ай бұрын
@@MarbsMusic Oh, I'm so happy to hear this! I'm still tempted by that Elegant Purple
@MarbsMusic
@MarbsMusic 3 ай бұрын
@@thoccnology It's quite nice, it's almost a metallic purple / pink, I definitely don't have anything similar to it. Was going to use Osume Dusk on it but the included caps matched so well and are so I nice I'm sticking with those!
@TSTLTK0322
@TSTLTK0322 2 ай бұрын
Not related to the keyboard but you have beautiful hands, looking at them reminds me of the person who has been with me for more than 3 years. And now I'm using Leobog Hi8. I also want to buy a new keyboard, I'm wondering between ND75 and Rainy75, because in my country their prices are similar.
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the compliment!
@nizam624able
@nizam624able 4 ай бұрын
Will you try out the Bridge75 next? I’m pretty curious about that one
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
THe EU localization is still ongoing (not to mention it'll be ages for it to arrive) :') and I can't reach them for a reviewer's unit :/
@quochuynguyen7622
@quochuynguyen7622 3 ай бұрын
Nd75 with 1.6mm pcb is the most worth buying version at 69$/kit in vietnam while the 1.2mm version full 71$ is difficult to compete with rainy or bridge75
@LastSecBloomer
@LastSecBloomer 4 ай бұрын
What the hell, ball catch AND a magnetic connector? I really hope that becomes a standard...multiple mounting options are nice too. However, I don't like sacrificing keys for a gimmick screen, they didn't get the memo that the market is moving away from flex cuts everywhere (and the PCB is 1.2mm to boot) and there is no VIA...
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
I think these are the baby steps towards a max potential keyboard! Once they add the VIA compatibility and offer the 1.6mm non-flex option (which is interestingly sold by some of the vendors!?) it'll surely cover a wider audience (my personal wishes would be a volume knob and a dongle storage hihi)
@Chingiee69
@Chingiee69 3 ай бұрын
this or hi75? also, good song choice!
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 3 ай бұрын
The Hi75 has a volume knob and a super thocky sound, but is only wired - the ND75 has 3-mode and ball-catch opening, etc. and a screen. Both are very good choices, you just have to consider these things when choosing! ^^
@0xBULLgogi
@0xBULLgogi 4 ай бұрын
spacebar sounds quite weak and ticky with the foamless build. sounded better in top mount with no foam. Still incredible value and features overall. I'm sold.
@DTDBGMI-pw4ed
@DTDBGMI-pw4ed 4 ай бұрын
have you tried vxe75 ? do you consider this board over vxe75 ? and what is good latency range for wireless 2.4 ghz keyboard ?
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
I couldn't try the vxe75 yet (it's not available in my region). Overall, anything under and around 10ms is good for gaming (no matter the connection mode, ofc the lower the value, the better)
@DTDBGMI-pw4ed
@DTDBGMI-pw4ed 4 ай бұрын
@@thoccnology thanks for these latency tests
@crankiermusic7436
@crankiermusic7436 4 ай бұрын
Between the nd75 and the womier sk65, which one do you think has a better finish? And how does their sound signatures compare with each other?
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
Both have very good finish, but the purple and blue colors on the ND75 are mind-blowing. But if you prefer less vivid colors, go with the SK65. :) Sound-wise they are very similar, the SK65 is a bit more poppy.
@crankiermusic7436
@crankiermusic7436 4 ай бұрын
@@thoccnology thanks! I was also wondering what software you use to test keyboard latency.
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
@@crankiermusic7436 No problem! I use a slow-motion camera and high refresh rate monitor for it.
@derbart1191
@derbart1191 4 ай бұрын
Only 99$? shut up and take my money. It looks so awesome. I thought it would be 200$ the first time i saw it. It sound like the Mod 007 HE in this Video is it similar when it comes to sound?
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
I agree, this color and finishing quality was something in $200+ keebs! It's a bit deeper and creamier than the Mod007 (I think that's mostly due to the PC plate and mounting system)
@garezza708
@garezza708 4 ай бұрын
which 1 is better between bridge75 and this 1... glad that I didn't get hi8/rainy75 right when I know them... new and better keybs keeps coming everyday
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
I couldn't try the Bridge75 yet, so I'm not sure, but they seem quite similar (except for the small flaws from the 1st round Bridge75s). I still love my Rainy and Hi8, the Rainy has an FR4 plate and the Hi8 has an insane thock, so I think I'll def keep them for a long time. The Hiexa V75 just arrived, I'm very interested, as that's also a ball-catch+magnetic keyboard in this price range
@garezza708
@garezza708 4 ай бұрын
oh wow.... never heard hiexa v75 b4.... aight... imma wait ur review bout that keyb too.... also the thing I like bout bridge 75 is that it sounds awesome with/without foam
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
@@garezza708 I agree, the Bridge is really promising! I hope they figure out soon the vendor list ^^
@1700tt
@1700tt 4 ай бұрын
Torn between this or the rainy75. Any reco for just a simple 65key with great latency?
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
Both are very good, if you prefer the screen the ND75 is better, or if the FR4 plate, then go with the Rainy75Pro. Otherwise, they're very similar, both very good! :) For 65% I prefer the Polar65 (magnetic keyboard), the TINT60 or the Womier SK65.
@StierZerk
@StierZerk 4 ай бұрын
In your opinion, how is this compared to Rainy75 stock?
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
Both are very, very good. I think it's all about layout preferences (screen vs. no screen). If you plan to open your keyboard often, the ball-catch opening will make things easier for sure
@potatoking414
@potatoking414 4 ай бұрын
Would you prefer this or the Rainy 75?
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
Both are very, very good. I think it's all about layout preferences (screen vs. no screen). If you plan to open your keyboard often, the ball-catch opening will make things easier for sure
@potatoking414
@potatoking414 4 ай бұрын
@@thoccnology Thanks very much 😘! I got the Rainy 75 cuz I think it looks a bit better.
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
@@potatoking414 Oh, great choice - oh, yeah, the Rainy75 backplate is also a piece of art
@potatoking414
@potatoking414 4 ай бұрын
@@thoccnology thanks, i subbed (kinda unrelated but)
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
@@potatoking414 Thank you so much for joining!
@Hardware_Riser
@Hardware_Riser 4 ай бұрын
what is your microphone to record this typing sound?
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
I use a Maono PD200x on a boom arm to avoid amplifying the thudding of the tabletop.
@Hardware_Riser
@Hardware_Riser 4 ай бұрын
@@thoccnology thank you so much
@chearow
@chearow 4 ай бұрын
I almost ordered it till I looked at battery capacity, that lcd screen and 3600mAh definitely aren't friends =(
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
I use it for 1,5 weeks, each day cca. 4-8 hours without switching it off when not used (RGB off) It's in the comfortable range for me. :)
@hafid543
@hafid543 4 ай бұрын
Which one you prefer, chilkey nd75 or rainy75?
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
There are small features that make me want to keep both of them. I love the FR4 plate on my Rainy75 and I love the ball-catch&magnetic features on the ND75. It's very, very hard to choose!
@hafid543
@hafid543 4 ай бұрын
@@thoccnology didnt solved my dilemma but thanks ure the best!
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
@@hafid543 Hihi, sorry, I couldn't choose one - if I really, really had to I think I'd go with the ND75, as this anodized blue color is just absolutely unique, also it's really fun to use it with the ball-catch opening
@jacklee6669
@jacklee6669 4 ай бұрын
may i know whats the highest point cm of this key bored ?
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
The case's highest point is cca.35mm.
@willy8067
@willy8067 4 ай бұрын
This or rainy75 lite for best typing sound?
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 3 ай бұрын
They are very similar, I will try to make a comparison including these keyboards.
@darells
@darells 3 ай бұрын
This or the Rainy75?
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 3 ай бұрын
They are very similar, this has a screen and ball-catch opening&magnetic connector, but the Rainy has more keys, and a bit different design.
@Ergosonn
@Ergosonn 4 ай бұрын
Can I order music?
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
Oh, a fellow k-pop enthusiast? :)
@Ergosonn
@Ergosonn 4 ай бұрын
@@thoccnology No, i love Howard Harper-Barnes
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
@@Ergosonn Oh, that's a nice tip, thank you! He has lovely music!
@MrYeungMoney
@MrYeungMoney 4 ай бұрын
this or Rainy75?
@kerfuritogonzales
@kerfuritogonzales 4 ай бұрын
rainy is quite a lot more expensive due to shipping so this might be better value? I personally still ordered Rainy over this
@hoaphamthi2017
@hoaphamthi2017 4 ай бұрын
​@@kerfuritogonzalesthis one is way better though, rainy sound really bad w/o foam, and also in my country rainy is being sold aftermarket around 65$ and people are still choosing this one. The non flex 1.6 pcb hit different compare to those dumb 1.2 flex cut
@kerfuritogonzales
@kerfuritogonzales 4 ай бұрын
​@@hoaphamthi2017 where do you see 1.6 non flex cut? Not seeing it on the website, also where did you see rainy being sold for 65 bucks?
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
It's a tough choice, both have some nice features, I like that it comes with FR4 plate and a unique steel plate. In the ND75 I love the ball-catch&magnetic solutions (and ofc this beauty of anodized blue)
@hoaphamthi2017
@hoaphamthi2017 4 ай бұрын
Since Vietnam borders China, we have easy access to a large number of keyboards that are sold for more money in western countries because of the cost of shipping. A 1.6mm non-flex PCB is available for pre-order with the ND75, however shipping won't begin until July. I'm not sure if it's limited to China. Everything is really inexpensive in my country, even a used QK-60/65 can be purchased easily for 65-80 dollars, so rainy at 65 dollars is hardly worth it. :)))
@IISRADSIRS
@IISRADSIRS 4 ай бұрын
How much latency diff that effect to fps gaming from keyboard? Lets say 20 ms or something?
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
It depends on the person, but it's widely accepted and said that under-10ms should be used for competitive (fast-paced FPS) gaming. This exact keyboard only has a 3.3ms latency, so it's almost non-existent (it literally means 0.0033 second).
@IISRADSIRS
@IISRADSIRS 4 ай бұрын
@@thoccnology ok and help me pick 1 between aula F75 / ak860pro for playing game and office work i prefer deep sound
@thoccnology
@thoccnology 4 ай бұрын
@@IISRADSIRS If you mean the AK820Pro, in short, the AK820 Pro is cheaper, but needs some mods to fully emphasize the good sound, the F75 is a bit more expensive, but is absolutely good to be used out of the box. Also the F75 has Cherry-profile keycaps in pretty colors, while the AK820 Pro has OEM profile, also it has a mini TFT screen and has a bit better latency. All in all, I'd say it's OK to choose whichever design you feel closer to your heart.
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