RIDE 4 - An Exhaustive Review

[@DylonND]

Hey everyone! Finished the RiMS Racing Review: kzbin.info/www/bejne/omrQfmWqadKIrpY

[@OrsoGabriel]

Hey man, congrats on the channel! how is Ride 4 physics today? still far from the realism of the release build?

[@louismays7810]

Im going to buy this game sooni just got my ps5 two days ago.

[@maluinthe90s]

As someone who actually rides, the ride games actually has very good feeling to the bikes. Because we are going into the winter months, I've been addicted to ride 2 to get my fill of motorcycling.

[@DylonND]

it the exact same for me, gotta scratch that itch :D

[@maluinthe90s]

@@DylonND I just got some winter gear. When for a ride in 39 degree weather. Froze my behind off but it was fun!

[@4biddeninja]

I aint got no cage boys im 2 wheels all year long.

[@maluinthe90s]

@@4biddeninja when you live in upstate New York, you simply cannot. Not only is it dangerously cold in the winter, black ice will get you and the salt on the road will eat through and destroy your bike.

[@4biddeninja]

Im in the dirty south my brutha

[@MrChick86]

I loved how depth and accurate you went with this review!!! Agree with every thing mentioned!!! The biggest turn off for me is how the career is structured! I lost the interest to keep playing as there is no a clear goal at the end to make you feel engaged!

[@DylonND]

Yeah that's been an unfortunate reality for all milestone games.

[@charliemaybe]

@@DylonND i feel with most if not all driving career modes feel grindy and not very rewarding at the end. I do like the direction of the f1 games with the story mode with all of the cut scenes and stuff. I want the engagement and storylines of a good fps shooter type of career mode rather than the tasteless race after race with similar vehicles, tracks, weather conditions, and length combos to make the length of the career as long as possible without much work. a good story mode takes a ton of work to even make a story take like 15-20 hours to complete, but that is where multiplayer comes in, to fill in the rest of the time that you have with the game. Maybe have a story mode and a generic career mode to make the engagement good while also making offline play a reality for a couple of hundred hours of pretty tasteless racing (dont get me wrong, i love a good grindy campaign, but also have a story mode). Then you can have multiplayer take the rest of the hundreds of hours that a really dedicated player would want to put into their games. This would be structuring it kind of like an fps shooter, but look how well that format is working for them. I sometimes buy a game just to play the 10-15 hour campaign because it is a really good story with twists and turns as well as a great sense of accomplishment when you get it done.

[@meditativeturtle]

We need more realistic difficult settings. Give casual players their own settings, but, there are some many people who are looking for a realistic motorbike sim! Come on, Milestone!

[@DylonND]

amen!

[@icyjake7707]

fr

[@romin888]

I love your review. I've been a real life motorbiker past a few years, but those tank slappers with slicks will literally catapult you off the bike, but it's pretty close.

[@DylonND]

Yeah, I miss those launch physics, so much fun to break traction.

[@tropickman]

Many new game producing companies learned they can sell shit products & scam customers, time & time again! The end.

[@diptarupghosh4431]

@@tropickman not necessarily a shit product...its an amazing game but something need to be dialed down a bit since after this is a video game....

[@duckseverywhere8119]

Awesome review from someone who knows what they're talking about. Love the style man, especially your humour

[@DylonND]

thanks! :D

[@BlackArroToons]

Solid, detailed review, thanks. I agree, the other riders aggressively crash into the player and just keep going when the chance is there, and vice versa. For Ride 5, in addition to all of the requested fixes and features, I'd really like to ride these bikes on an open map landscape with a day/night cycle offline or online choice. Freeways, highways, even allow the player to ride off road without resetting them if they want.

[@DylonND]

Couldn't of said it any better! FREEWAYS!!

[@BlackArroToons]

@@DylonND Thanks! That would be awesome to take these bikes on the freeways and rural country roads with some great scenery too.

[@WTFidontknow1]

Play The Crew 2 it has everything you just asked for

[@bobenonbob]

finally after allmost 2 decades... a motorcycle game comes close to tourist trophy on ps2 🥳

[@ras4782]

Lmbo

[@levihillman917]

Funny just ask him about TT Don't think I found another game to give me that experience Test drive with bikes was pretty sick

[@Bratox187]

TT was not that good tbh

[@bobenonbob]

@@Bratox187 I strongly disagree. The bike physics... the fact that if you were leaning too much you were falling, too much acceleration and the bike would lift if it was a powerfull one... the left controller stick was controlling the rider tilt - holding it forward or backward you were in stoppie or wheelie, too much and you fell. I think it was the first true bike simulator.

[@Bratox187]

@@bobenonbob i mean TT from polypony and you mean the other TT with the Red black Honda CBR cover right?

[@sarikrana4215]

As of August 21st the game's on Steam Sale. Standalone - 8 USD. All DLCs - 38 USD.

[@DrBIeed]

I’m glad to hear the controls got better. That was specifically my problem with Ride 3, as you mentioned. I used to tell people it was literally easier to ride a track day on an actual motorcycle than it was to try to control the bikes in Ride 3 consistently.

[@DylonND]

They did! I really miss the launch physics, you really felt on the edge when you pushed hard.

[@idontknowyou876]

@@DylonND surely on hardest difficulty you feel it's a challenge?

[@frenchtoast-d7u]

I've got a bit of a problem with the dlc packs often consisted of bikes that already were in Ride 3. Removing content from a previous entry, only for it to appear later as paid dlc doesn't sit right with me at all. And then there's the dlc bikes themselves: I genuinely can't wrap my head around the thought process that goes into deciding which bikes are to be added to the game. I mean why do they add the R1250R instead of a S1000R which is BMW's actual super naked? Why have they added the R1250RS, a somewhat heavy sportstourer, when there are no other bikes of this type? Now that they've gone through the trouble of getting the new MT-09 into the game, where is the Z900 (one of the best selling bikes in its class in Europe),the Duke 890 or the new Ducati Monster? They've put the new MT-07 in the game, but literally none of its real life competitors are in the game, so what exactly are we supposed to do with it? Sorry for the rant, but Milestone really has a GT thing going where they've put a ton of borderline duplicates in the game (especially ZX-10s and R1s) instead of something a bit more unique which could have added to the variety.

[@DylonND]

exactly!!! There are too many bikes that need to be in the game. I didn't wanna fall for that importing models from previous games :/

[@Vixen1525]

I like your style of reviews. I subscribed

[@DylonND]

Thank you! Hopefully Milestone gives us a free roam mode someday, so we can just ride bikes around on a highway, like the horizon games.

[@Vixen1525]

@@DylonND Ouh yeaah. I fell in love with Ride 2. I wanted to ask you if YOU can recommend Ride 4 to me. I am not really into simulation I would not care about the new handling model. But is the model similar to Ride 2? Because Ride 2 feels pretty well. And I got it for around 5bucks in the psn store. :) I watched your review but I am not sure if I should get 4 in a future sale.

[@DylonND]

@@Vixen1525 I loved Ride 2 (way more then 3), so I would say 4 is worth it on sale for sure. The only thing is the motorcycle variety is kind of low, so see if you can grab the special edition on sale, that's what I would do.

[@davidlatham3490]

Enjoyed that. You've got great narration and pacing throughout and that is what kept me watching for 28 mins. I also ride and appreciate your insight into both riding and gaming. Big Fan.

[@DylonND]

Thank you!! Appreciate the comment.

[@delarossiuk]

Don't forget no ai in multiplayer. I reckon they just make these silly decisions to troll us! Great review 👍🏼👍🏼

[@DylonND]

Thanks delarossi! Yeah, so many changes they could make to clean up the multiplayer too.

[@Casomyro1983]

I have seen your review yesterday, wishlisted it, suddenly the whole game and all dlc are on sale for 30 bucks, but now I am scared because I think Milestone is spying on me.

[@DylonND]

they probably are lol

[@undeadcommunist]

Oh man I loved your review style and it's full of good info that nobody talks about!

[@DylonND]

thank you!! That's how I feel too so I figured I'd do it.

[@doomfathertm8771]

8:28 the rear wheel isn't spinning, the rise in revs is caused by the decreasing radius of the tire, in effect it is as if your rear wheel is shrinking yet the speed is the same, causing a rise in revs

[@DylonND]

you are 100% correct! Are you an engineer?

[@doomfathertm8771]

@@DylonND I am an ex BSB rider :)

[@DylonND]

@@doomfathertm8771 holy cow! Welcome to the channel!

[@DerekMoore82]

Hey, nice review. I'm a sim racer who has only played car sims for a decade, who is now thinking of trying out motorcycle sims. I stumbled on this video and thought "Okay, cool, now I have a good idea about Ride 4. Okay, now I'm gonna go to this guy's playlists and find his exhaustive reviews of the other ones like TT Isle of Man 2, Rims, MotoGP21, etc." But I was disappointed to discover you don't have any reviews of any of the other motorcycle sims. Is there any way you would consider making reviews of the others? I think you're really good at reviews and you obviously are knowledgeable enough about motorcycle racing stuff. Just a suggestion.

[@DylonND]

I really appreciate hearing this, I haven't had the time to break down other games or the budget to do so, but I want to do rims and motogp eventually.

[@Wajang1]

I see them riding away with our hard earned cash.

[@DylonND]

Yep, lol couldn't put it any better.

[@seank3548]

I have over 500+ hours in this game going in with very little interest in motorcycles.. it’s absolutely worth grinding through the difficulty, I love that they added tracks like NW 200 and Ulster. One of, if not the best modern racing simulator.. from a pure gameplay and sim POV

[@DylonND]

agreed! just need open world, regular roads and a season pass!

[@Fullbatteri]

What's that ambient music you have at 2:00 ?? I need to know! It sounds so familiar but I can't put my finger on it and it's making me crazy. I'm sure I've heard it before.

[@DylonND]

Men I Trust - Dorian, slowed wayy way down

[@LorenzoClara97]

This is a proper review!! You gained a subscriber and I look forward to future reviews even if I'm not a true 100% bike lover I love cars and expecially rally racing but currently going into the atv/quad world and wanted to try something different because this game reminds me of the old tourist trophy, a game that I really loved I will give it a try and pick a cheap key, It is a shame that they downgraded the physics, it is just nosense

[@DylonND]

Thank you! I'm also a big fan of all things wheels, tourist trophy for the ps2 is still the best overall, hopefully ride will surpass it someday.

[@Perjoss]

Thanks for this great review, thumbs up

[@DylonND]

thank you!!

[@velimirtopolovacki8956]

8:55 This camera view is only available in replay, and that's the reason why I switched to RIMS.

[@DylonND]

Next up you'll have to try GP Bikes!

[@velimirtopolovacki8956]

@@DylonND I understood that you are real motorcycle rider? When you said GP bikes, I was excited, and it turned out - it's PC only?????? : /

[@DylonND]

@@velimirtopolovacki8956 it is pc only! And requires lots of mods to be a good game

[@christianoberlies]

Since this video came out, have they fixed the issue with the headlights being stationary in night races???

[@DylonND]

Not really, think the sprite is from a fixed point still.

[@amac_]

3:17 if you don't change your oil when the light goes red, your bike will be significantly slower. It has happened to me in the middle of a race multiple times and it was pretty nerve racking

[@DylonND]

yeah, it's implemented much better in Rims racing! Ride has done the oil thing since the first game lol.

[@Desmo904]

That's a pretty comprehensive review. Like you, my favourite race to do would be the Endurance mode. It's disappointing to see such obvious bugs and shortcomings making it through to the final game. (I'll still buy it whenever I get a PS5 though!)

[@majest1kone9]

I just got a PS5 and just found out about this game and thinking about getting it. Shoul I??

[@DylonND]

on sale, yes!

[@joshlaquerre3197]

Great review. Thank you so much for your time on an on-point review. I have had this game since it came out. I Was pissed off when the game was kicking my ass at first. But after a bit of getting used to the game actually, rocks

[@DylonND]

Exactly my experience! :D (until the update)

[@stoictraceur4794]

Hey! Would love to hear your thoughts on MotoGP 21. Maybe take a look at the Physics of some gameplay videos.

[@DylonND]

Hey, haven't played MotoGP since GP16 I think, I'll see if I can maybe put something on my second channel, or get my hands on it during a sale. Thanks for letting me know!

[@stoictraceur4794]

@@DylonND Thanks. Anytime.

[@jacquesjtheripper5922]

@@DylonND motogp19 is much better than ride3 for control, feel, physics. So might be worth it for you to check out their gp games. I haven't bought ride4 yet, i was all excited after checking out videos recently of the realistic pov cam, until i noticed it's just a replay cam. So stil same silly fairing views as in 3 with the bike swinging left and right under you in the opposite side that you're turning instead of your viewpoint moving closer to the inside of the road curve itself. Which makes it impossible to follow a line, except in 3rd person. So now i learn from your video that the physics were good sim wise at launch and now not. Milestone have bad people in charge of design decisions seems. Is ride4 steering control smoother than 3? In motogp19 you can so nicely control your bike, and the fun challenge comes from pushing to the limit. Ride 3 sensitivity makes it unnecessarily hard to just point where you want, even if the physics are easier. Edit: on your video with new updated physics, the rear still looks like it's loosing traction at least, is it just visual or do you have to control it to not lose it?

[@DylonND]

@@jacquesjtheripper5922 Yeah, even with the new physics, assists on zero like TCS on the high horsepower bikes you can still loose the rear quite a lot, the solution is dragging your rear brake everywhere you go, out of corners etc, and when you go on a straight if you bike is wheelie happy and anti wheelie is low or off you also need to drag the rear brake to keep it from going bars over. Overall I would say I can't go back to Ride 3 because of how well Ride 4 feels planting the bikes into corners and using camber, even with the updated physics. It's just sad because launch physics were punishing, but absolutely thrilling to master, and you truly felt on the edge. Now it feels much to safe, with hints of that old feeling once in awhile.

[@jacquesjtheripper5922]

@@DylonND i guess they are more lively? I noticed in ride3, the older powerful bikes do power oversteer and can lose it low side. The more modern race bikes seem to have tcs even if i set it to 0. Guessing it only affects the in game aids, not the default real bike aids.

[@ETR_Unicorn]

Great review. You just gained a new sub. I look forward to checking out more of your work.

[@DylonND]

Thank you!

[@HolyMoleyJoelyPoley]

Yeh so listen, I half-heartedly clicked on your review…and absolutely loved it. I wasn’t expecting much but I got to say, this is the best review yet of Ride 4. And I’ve watched a few. I’ve been on the fence for so long and you tipped me over into buying the Special Edition on PS5. Vid was so well done in so many ways: balance of the games pros alongside your constructive criticism, real thorough and thought out perspective on design flaws, mix of great gaming footage alongside amusing glitches, and most importantly…the memes (it was entertaining!) So on the balance of everything, and considering all your points, I took the plunge knowing what I was getting into (picked it up on special). So far, really enjoying it. Only it’s a shame that some of the issues STILL haven’t been addressed by Milestone ~6 months after you posted your review (some have but I had hoped for more.) Why are all their games released unfinished or underdeveloped (I also own MotoGP ‘19 and MXGP20)? Otherwise, ride safe mate.

[@DylonND]

Thanks for the comment, made my day! Glad you enjoyed the review, I had to mull it over a long time! I bet the haptic feedback on ps5 is way better then playing on the keyboard.

[@DylonND]

and milestone prefers to release new games, instead of updating their old ones :/

[@MrSapperb3]

Another thing me and my friends have noticed is our tyres are always cold. We’ve been going flat out for 5/6 laps edge to edge and the tyres are still stone cold but the grip doesn’t feel any different (either that or we’ve just got used to the feel of cold tyres). So strange

[@DylonND]

Yeah, i pretty much ignore tire temp now because it doesn't seem to do much.

[@yama3276]

Endurance bikes without Suzuka, that's a no no, btw at 13:58 it's that BB-Mack's helmet?

[@DylonND]

could be! I downloaded several off the milestone community :D And 100% agreed.

[@Cmsant]

Good I bought ride 2 for pc thanks for the heads up

[@doctormonster321]

Common please, in your video 25:37 you post my comment. Im nearly playing 20 years racing games on steam, im not new my son. Dont forget my friend. i only played the Multiplayer part. No AI. im still in the top15 on the most of the tracks. Where are you?

[@DylonND]

Hey DoctorMonster! I felt like your comment best summarized how we all felt about the physics being changed. (Including myself) I mostly played Ride 4 for Career mode and was so disappointed with the change in physics I didn't really feel like doing time attack. If only we could go back to the release physics.

[@doctormonster321]

@@DylonND im sorry for my english. Answered bit hard. Yes, the physics was def down patched. I prefer the the first two builds of the game. I spend max 10 hours in Singleplayer. I prefer more the way of competition. Try GP BIKES if you want to have the best motorcycle Simulation.

[@DylonND]

@@doctormonster321 GP Bikes is amazing! I'm working on a review for it right now! Anything you want to mention about it?

[@doctormonster321]

we can talk tommorow if you want. I know this game well ;-)

[@bungboocer1747]

i bought the game on sale for 6 dollars and continued to purchase the dlc for i think 20 something dollars... thank god for steam sales XD

[@DylonND]

thank god :D

[@kyletaylor6935]

highly appreciate the detail you go into for this review

[@DylonND]

thanks!

[@8ballout]

That is a very detailed review. Much appreciated, thanks.

[@DylonND]

thank you!

[@riz0096]

Love the review man, you earn a sub from me! Agree that as a PC Player I feel ripped off by the DLC plan hahaha. Also, is that Taira helmet on 13:29-13:43? If you're playing on Steam that might be the one that I made lol, it's called Taira Red or the V2 version

[@DylonND]

yep! It is!! You did an amazing job. And thanks!

[@riz0096]

@@DylonND Thanks man, another bug for PC version is that updates tend to wreck decal positioning in helmet and bike livery creator (that I know of). So I kinda have to redo the placement everytime there's a game update, but I really couldn't be bothered lol

[@etzioschmetzio2168]

haha The Road Atlanta comment on the which turn to take is GOLD. I've actually raced there before and it was the B corner. I didnt even know the A was an option. When I went over wheelie hill the first time in game I was like whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat is happening, where are these people making me go

[@DylonND]

LOL, a milestone suprise!

[@FelipeFritschF2]

Fantastic review. I hope Ride 5 is finally the game we've all wanted.

[@DylonND]

same!

[@austinhawkins8604]

Ride 4's physics makes me want to build a motorcycle racing sim with a bar and custom controls

[@DylonND]

hell yeah! That would be sick.

[@Treizez34]

At 8:53 there is no way anybody would ever still be on the bike at that point lol

[@DylonND]

I know! lol I was glad the virtual guy hung on

[@Invis_Space]

Totally spot on review. S1000 owner and can testify if you’re a biker you’ll enjoy this. 🙏🏻

[@DylonND]

thanks :D

[@charliedavoine2989]

23:47 the 2008 has the cross plane crank and the 2004 is flat plane, completely different engines

[@DylonND]

very interesting! I didn't know that, I was just thinking about the 3d model.

[@charliedavoine2989]

@@DylonND yeah at first it seems like nothing but the R1 changed massively over those years

[@thehandleiwantedwasntavailable]

This is one hell of a review man!! Respect.

[@DylonND]

thank you sir! glad you enjoyed it

[@blueskye2912]

I just bought the game, gonna download it tonight and play tomorrow morning. I play a lot of MotoGP, and when I saw this I just have to try it, and with this great review, I really hope for the best out of this game!

[@DylonND]

I use to play a lot of MotoGP it's probably changed enough now to be worth the investment!

[@TheInfantry98]

@@DylonND moto gp 20 is legit

[@edrohhhhhhhhh]

Hey there! I was the guy who made the comment in steam that link the memory leakage and rewind feature in endurance a while ago. Of course I was wrong, I guess Milestone decided to not implement the rewind feature in career because that makes the game harder in that mode (career). Anyways, your review of the game is over OK for me. love it. And now my negative points: I was really disappointed with the number of bikes and brands. The AI, the lack of rider clothes or gear. Hey man, I want my rider race in flips flops what's the matter?

[@DylonND]

What you said made a lot of sense, it's strange that Milestone decided to just say this is the difficulty it *has* to be in that mode. Thanks for the comment! Yeah, I am disappointing too, and the DLC has been recycled from Ride 3 sadly, no new models of bikes. Haha! Flipflops would be pretty cool, I say why not!?

[@shibapatrol801]

Great review. It's on summer sale at Steam for 40% off and decided to get it after watching this review. I've played multiple MotoGP games but never played the Ride series and this was the best review on this game I've found on KZbin. o7

[@DylonND]

thank you!

[@levihillman917]

Cut my teeth on Tourist Trophy when I was kid would like to know if you have played before and thoughts on it

[@DylonND]

I've got it! just gotta get the ps2 emulator going

[@OneShotKill3r]

21:44 rain slick? Great review though!

[@DylonND]

good catch yeah, rain tire* :D

[@MuhammadHammadAshraf]

3:08 I know it's been a long time but your bike needed an oil change (as indicated in Red on the bottom left HUD) which is why the AI is faster on their bikes. Idk why but Milestone had programmed to get players to do an Oil change every now and then in Ride 3; to make up for the lack of realism in that game, probably.

[@DylonND]

They should make us actually do the oil change, lol drop the filter etc

[@baronburgamot243]

Maybe they'll update it . . nope. Right onto Ride 5. Would love to hear your opinions on Ride 5.

[@japethgarcia7161]

Great vid. But I really have to ask, does the photos you took available for the public? Because hot pancakes, those are nice shots brother. I would be grateful if I could save those. But it's fine if they are not public. Great video! Thanks!

[@DylonND]

Yes, check out my steam profile! I think i've uploaded a bunch there from many of the Ride games.

[@khaosking2937]

Why tf were the bikes in Ride 3 so fast tho?

[@DylonND]

Believe it or not they patched Ride 4 so the bikes were faster lol.

[@zicascaval]

Literally, one of the best (if not the best) reviews i've ever seen.

[@DylonND]

thanks :D

[@ryanschoenick4065]

Very detailed review. Good job 👍

[@DylonND]

thanks!

[@Viviansen]

Such a shame they downgrade physics. They have done the best bike game ever and decide to ruin it. This is the best review of Ride 4, please let us know if Milestone "fix" physics to what it was on release date.

[@DylonND]

Will do! For now, no change :( - And thanks!

[@astlozq]

I really like your review on Ride 4. Will you do a review on MotoGP 21 in the future？

[@DylonND]

Looking at the youtube poll, it might be whats next!

[@astlozq]

@@DylonND lol I was using ipad, for some reason it can’t show the voting session. You were so balls deep on the Ride 4 review, and it is unbeatable. Most of the reviews just throwing hardcore shit to the viewers, and never cover the details. It looks like the content creators will never play the game again after reviewing it. But you! Your passion is so fill up and it is leaking out from you about this game.

[@andyreynolds6194]

Excellent review, thanks!

[@DylonND]

thanks for watching!

[@MrFreshman149]

@DNDStudios Nice Review😊 But please one question: Is it now possible to set the minimal lap counter on one when you want to ride The Nürburgring Nordschleife? Or is it still only possible to drive a race with 3 laps on the Nordschleife?

[@DylonND]

3 to 30 laps in quickrace, and in time trial as little or as many as you want.

[@MrFreshman149]

@@DylonND Thanks👍👋. In my opinion, short Races with One Lap should be possible on the Nordschleife.

[@DylonND]

@@MrFreshman149 Agreed! Like 1 shot qualifying!

[@dishdoggiegaming7254]

I'm not a motorcycle person but way back in the 90's I got a MotoGP game and loved it. I played it with a CH Joystick and killed myself all the time. Wow that was fun. I thought then and still do now. Why does no one make a Motorcycle Joystick? Like a set of handle bars grips throttle brake levers. There is a base of fan users for this. Do I not know of a product being used now? Do most use a Game Pad now? I have some really nice high end Flight sim gear you get way better precision control. I think it is a shame this area has not developed for a Moto Sim Base as big as it looks like it is. I hope something good comes this way in the future. Wonderful Review Thank You

[@DylonND]

Yep! it's all controller pretty much. They need to make a set of clip on bars that we can use to simulate leaning the bike!

[@MCnobodyMC]

20:40 yes I do feel the Rewind feature because the endurance mode, I just have to tell my self to ignore playing it all together!. And that wobble effect is annoying but I can see I rather have it then just crash with out showing that beware warning 24:20. I just wish you went back to Ride 2 Riding control Physics because that's still worth mentioning compared to Ride 4 or even Ride 3. If you find time make a video comparing Riding assists off for Ride 2 & Ride 4 just like you done here 25:54 please!. I'm sorry I know this is a year old now and you might not want to now.

[@DylonND]

Hey no worries! I actually made a comparison on my second channel of the physics, from all Ride games with a stock CBR900rr and an MV Agusta F4! kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4ungIecicShnc0 and kzbin.info/www/bejne/g2bYgJ2Mg6eanLs

[@Diexiel]

wow best review ever !! i never played motorcycle games, dont really care about bikes, not my thing. but watched the whole review to the end. other youtubers need to learn hoe to do a proper review ! big like thx

[@DylonND]

thank you so much dude! I like to spend time on my videos haha.

[@Lovve_less]

Hey man it's on sale on ps5. Do you know if there's been any patches or changes since your review is it worth it?

[@DylonND]

Playing it yesterday I noticed they added cones and a few other things, but the physics are much more arcade then launch still, so if you don't mind that it's worth it.

[@seanc6754]

Good review.. what do you think about TT isle oof Mann ride on the edge? I felt the same way about the physics in that game

[@DylonND]

Need to play it!

[@feeldontbelieve6577]

I am a car guy but I go to say the real life Suzuka footage gave me goose bumps. The way they got to work their body and lean into corners is just beautiful! So fucking exciting! Suzuka is one of mine absolute favorite tracks!

[@DylonND]

Suzuka is amazing, love seeing it at the absolute limit.

[@rochr4]

This is an achievement, I got fooled, only after the crash and seeing ragdoll I finaly realised.

[@stoictraceur4794]

Thanks for this video! I finally got closure on the updates of this game. I got the platinum and 100% on the DLC of RIDE 3, so there's no way I wouldn't like this one. Eh... Actually, I think I can wait...

[@DylonND]

Yeah! It'll most likely be worth it if you can buy it and all the DLC on a huge sale, unfortunately there's no guarantee they will roll back the physics.

[@stoictraceur4794]

The ongoing sale on PS4 this month marks both versions down by 40% ($29.99 and $47.99 respectively). I suggest that everyone waits at least until there is a 65% ($17.5 and $28 respectively) discount in a given sale when the prices are this high.

[@a7med933]

Waiting for Ride 5 review

[@DylonND]

Once they let me play it! No pre-release copy for me, nor pre-order download since its on PC :(

[@04Saleen256]

Just picked up this game for PS5 on sale for $19.99. I’ve never played a Ride game before, and it was an uphill battle to get used to. But a solid few hour crash course, no assists and high difficulty, and I’m getting the hang of it. As a long time fan of Gran Turismo, I actually really like the licensing stuff in Ride 4. My only complaint, it would be nice if they let you play through ALL the licenses up front straight away if you want.

[@DylonND]

yup! Exactly, I hope there listening to our feedback.

[@sevenkaylive]

I don’t know anything about motorcycles, I don’t watch any kind of racing, I don’t even own a pc or console that can play this game I have never heard of... Yet I watch a 28 minute review made by some guy I found out randomly. Nice video, except you missed 'nice' during that 69% extra price on pc section.

[@DylonND]

thanks for the watch, glad you still enjoyed it!

[@shmack2836]

this is your signal to get a bike ;) just do it ;) *whispers* "join us"

[@toccandocreacanaleulterior176]

@@shmack2836 money is the problem

[@Statek63]

Nice review ! So what views are available "in-game" on a PC ? Is there any sort of 1st person view in the game ?

[@DylonND]

Six views in total (two outside) and the rest are variations of the first person cam, but they are locked to the bike. You can see me cycle through some of them at the start of the second critique part. The best first person view is only in replay which your camera moves with the rider as shown in the video.

[@ninegatesofale1898]

Personally, I still think they should make Easy, easy. Not everyone wants a challenge. Sure, let people who want a challenge have their challenge but make easy actually easy. You're just pushing away a large majority of players simply because they don't want the crazy skill ceiling you're pushing. All you have to do is make Easy restrict the Ai's overall top speed. That doesn't ruin anyone's game on higher difficulties. Then they removed a metric ton of bikes so if feels like half a game compared to Ride 3s list. As a casual, Ride 3 is better to me. It was actually fun. This just isnt

[@DylonND]

Yep, all rides AI's have been really darn hard from the start, cause they carry way to much corner speed as well.

[@Toshinisei]

Agreed. I too consider myself a casual for motorcycle racing games and I enjoyed Ride 2 a lot. I've been playing R3 and I already consider it difficult, even on the easiest setting, especially for time attacks. I have to give them so many tries that it's the mode I spend my playtime the most by far, and that really takes a lot of the fun in playing altogether. I've been interested in Ride 4 ever since I've heard it was under development and I still haven't got it because of most of the problems mentioned in this review (which was great btw). The game looks great but I guess I'll just have to wait for Ride 5 for now.

[@ninegatesofale1898]

@@Toshinisei interesting. I find Ride 3 to be a cakewalk. Love the game. I'd avoid Ride 4 if you find 3 to be hard. I can barely play 4, as it's on another level of difficult, entirely. Along with the cut bike content compared to 3, it's a huge step backwards. Studios are starting to listen to the minority players who want realism and difficulty increases and completely ignore the majority of their player base that just want fun games that don't abuse you for being a casual. Not every game has to be brutally hard. And again, Im all for really hard difficulty options as long as you add super easy "easy" options. I've played games where Easy Mode felt like a pro Street Fighter tournament against the world's best players. That's not "easy"....thats those extra hard modes beyond "hard". Easy just doesn't the same thing anymore and that's disappointing.

[@DylonND]

@@Toshinisei yeah, it still doesn't have that play-ability that tourist trophy on the ps2 had.

[@Toshinisei]

@@ninegatesofale1898 Agreed. Studios could broaden difficulty levels so that both casual and hard core players be contemplated and have a good experience. They probably got a considerable amount of flak for the unbalanced AI, so maybe for the next games they'll polish it some more.

[@iAyoub151]

Thank you for mentioning the pricing part, finally i will find solace completely pirating another title.

[@DylonND]

no problem!

[@izak6858]

What song is being played in background the first half of the video?

[@DylonND]

men i trust - dorian

[@goatcity2266]

As it currently stands, are the Ride 4 physics pretty similar to Ride 2 with all the assists turned off?

[@DylonND]

Hmm, I'd say it does feel like ride 2 because you feel planted in the corners - but 4 has the most rear wheel chatter, flex, etc of all the games, which makes it really stand out.

[@souldry]

I’m a huge car sim guy, but I don’t know a single thing about motorcycles. I’ve just recently started getting into them. Is this worth it for 7 bucks on console?

[@DylonND]

oh yeah, that's basically a fancy coffee price haha.

[@souldry]

@@DylonNDthanks. I bought the version with all DLC for $14. Might as well. Feels pretty cool, I killed myself 7000 times on the first lap.

[@DerekDuVelleDrives]

Incredible review and I agree with pretty much everything you said, purchased the game last week for xbox one. The last motorbike racing game I had was Riding Spirits 2 for PS2 about 16 years ago! First 2-3 hours were spent mostly very frustrated and regretting the purchase I just couldn't get on with it! Everything felt lazy and the licenses were very frustrating. I am probably about 10 hours in now and absolutely loving it. I get a huge sense of achievement getting a gold on a time trial course when you cannot rewind etc. Shame I never got to try it with the previous physics as I prefer to turn all assists off (also brakes are better without ABS etc if you can 'feel' what is going on). I did find the initial turn in of most bikes quite lazy but I find removing all front end preload on the front forks and adding a few clicks on the shock really lives things up and allows the bikes to get more 'out of shape' and twitch coming out of corners rather than being very stable... makes the 1000cc+ bikes a bit of a handful! Great review, thanks again.

[@DylonND]

Thank you, sounds like you've got some bike experience! I adjust the preload to be as twitchy as possible and stiffen all shocks to maximum values, forgot to mention that in the review! If you get the chance to play a downgraded copy on the PC with the physics, man it was fun.

[@theavangelist]

The thing that pisses me off more than anything is that I'm one trophy away from Platinum and you'd guess right if you assume that was endurance racing licence. Well as soon as you choose an endurance race all curbs turn into exploding kittens. You just come near one and you're off. It's completely bonkers and ruined things for me a lot

[@DylonND]

Yep, I think they added an off track setting? Maybe turning that on would help with that, but sometimes the curb eats you lol. I stayed waaay off them for the final test.

[@PorgChob]

Really wanting to buy this, have any of the major issues been patched that would make you recommend this again? This review was excellent.

[@DylonND]

Thank you! And unfortunately besides adding cones - the physics have been nerfed. But I would def try it and see if you like it. Suzuka is still a blast to ride around.

[@dellamok]

Did they fix some of your points (like changable parameters etc.), or do they patch the game at all since your review? I´m a PC gamer and thinking about buying this game. Until now I only played MotoGP21, but the endurance mode and variety of bikes is very interesting for me.

[@DylonND]

They just added cones/flag people. Everything else is the same as far as I know.

[@FeyFox]

Did they update the physics nocw to be as good as in the release build or are they still mediocre?

[@DylonND]

still mediocre!

[@charliemaybe]

when i launch the game, it freezes on a loading screen even before a menu. i have good specs and up to date drivers, i just am not sure why it wont launch properly

[@DylonND]

hmmm, Id double check your Nvidia drivers and then check the community form to see whats up.

[@charliemaybe]

@@DylonND I figured it out. I had a crazy headset connected so when it launches oculus, the game freaks out

[@jordanjoestar8839]

Great review, however, GT Sport still holds the crown for photo mode 😉 They developed a real in-game DSLR with its own name and "hardware". Check some shots and many are impossible to tell apart from real life!

[@DylonND]

looks like I need a ps5 :D

[@bartekino]

Should i buy the Standard Version or the ultimate with season pass? It's reduced in the store for next two weeks. 18 and 25 Euros

[@DylonND]

At this point Ultimate! Get all the bikes

[@riccardofissore7996]

I don’t get why I don’t see motion blur in your clips, for example when you try to recreate highlights clips, did you intentionally turn it off or is the game that is lacking it? That would add a lot to realism

[@DylonND]

I prefer to play my racing games without motion blur! Good catch! ( I turned it off)

[@RedDolittle]

BEST review ever !!! 😍🤩

[@DylonND]

thank you!

[@revhead1001]

Trying to decide if I should get this or just replsy tourist trophy?

[@DylonND]

Go grab Rims Racing, and download an emulator so you can play TT too!

[@hazed1009]

Best bike game physics? Sorry it might have more bikes, better selection of tracks etc but ride4 devs OBVIOUSLY saw and played TT isle of man ride on the edge 1 and 2. Hands down the nearest a game has ever come to how it feels to ride at 100mph + on a bike. If they could take the physics from TT and put all the bikes and tracks from ride 4 youd have the ultimate bike game.

[@DylonND]

I have the old Suzuki TT game on PS2, have you played it?

[@hazed1009]

@@DylonND no unfortunately not. Never owned ps2, was always a pc guy till xbox one, ps4 Also i realised after watching your vid again thatvi havent experienced the release build physics only the patched version which i dont like. For years ive searched for a true bike feeling game and as i said so far for me the closest is the TT game. More for its sense of speed than true to life physics i think , its the first game to give me a little taste of that real life "oh shit" youve overcooked the corner feeling and cause a slight heart beat stutter lol. I was so pleased when the game made me feel a bit of panic 😂 Also i only play on bike pov, i dont like 3rd person. I dont see the point tbh. Im after the feeling if being "on the bike" not behind it. Just my personal preference.

[@assassinhitman]

Which ride version has the easiest physics? I'm really bad at racing games but I want to ride a bike without having to turn at precise moments ....

[@DylonND]

Hmmm, I would said Ride 3... after the updates, the game is much easier. I have a Ride Beginners Guide video for the first game if you need some pointers.

[@assassinhitman]

@@DylonND Thanks

[@gregbest90]

Fantastic review. Still having a lot of fun with it (got it on XB1 fairly close to launch) but you've really hit the nail on the head here (felt exactly the same about the Endurance rewind as I slogged through the Special 1000 Trophy). I haven't bought the Season Pass for this but given how much I still play it, I'm giving it some thought despite Milestone's really obvious shenanigans. If the Season Pass was available on PC, would you get it?

[@DylonND]

Absolutely I would totally get it, I've basically done everything in the game so it would be nice to try the new track on it etc. And thanks!

[@darkone6030]

Sales tax should be included in the price, unless it’s different to how steam works in Australia although I don’t see why it would be.

[@DylonND]

It's sadly not here in USA.

[@Stormnorman15]

Never played a Ride game before, just bought this for the ps5 for 20 bucks! has it come far in changes since March '21?

[@DylonND]

not really much besides they added cones! I think they've moved on to Ride 5.

[@edygk20kstm64]

That was a good review bro...I found it just in time because I was deciding between my ps5 and pc but only because I wanted to get graphically speaking the most out of this game and then I saw the price for everything on Steam , it is ridiculous indeed ..I was so close to buy it but then I saw your clip while I was looking for some comparison vids between ps and pc..glad I ended up here coz I went to ps store and the special edition of this game is on offer for 33 pounds ..I just spared a hundred thanx to you...If I`ll ever meet you, you got a case of beer..😎👊

[@DylonND]

Hell yeah! :D So glad I could help you out bro. Cheers! I'll def take you up on that.

[@grahamwatts368]

Thanks for the review, I was seriously about to purchase it until I watched this.

[@DylonND]

you're welcome!

[@0netyr]

I caught the chills when u said early 90s sport bikes

[@DylonND]

Hell yeah my favorite generation of motorcycle! Mines still alive in real life for now, its getting the cam chain tensioner replaced.

[@matthewcoleman8267]

This is £10 on the Steam sale at the moment. Is it worth getting?

[@DylonND]

at that price absolutely

[@s4ints]

what is the state of the game as of now since your review in March? Still the same? I'll be getting my PS5 next week and will be testing this out. Nice video and very informative. Do you have any videos to teach noobs like me how to tune the bike? Tune as in tune not buy and install upgrades.. :)

[@DylonND]

Yeah, some on steam feel like it's even more arcade feeling - but I haven't noticed much of a difference since the big patch. I forgot to add that tuning part to my review - but basically for all bikes: Front Preload 0 (-10) Rear Preload +10 Then for Spring, Front, and Rear Shock +10 (maxed) on all settings, unless on rare occasion the track is too bumpy like the Nurburgring then I just keep those on (+5) default settings. That way I can get max lean angle and max twitch most of the time. As for transmission the key is to go to the final ratio and adjust it to 0 (-10) and if the bike is maxing out on the straights just adjust that sixth gear to be longer (move it from +5 to +10) - you can also make the first gear a little longer if the bike is wheeling too much at the start, but anti wheelie is better for that. Finally with calibrations, set them to aggressive once you get comfortable with the game and don't look back.

[@fishblade2]

Has any patches or fixes come out for this game that makes it any better?

[@DylonND]

Not really, they just added cones, physics have been permanently nerfed.