China PLA member asks about role of Shangri-La Dialogue, if it's serving interest of US and allies

At the final plenary session of the Shangri-La Dialogue, a member of China's People's Liberation Army (PLA), Zhao Xiaozhuo, Senior Fellow, Academy of Military Sciences, PLA asked Singapore Defence Minister Ng Eng Hen and the chief executive of the International Institute for Strategic Studies John Chipman about the role of the security forum.
"There are negative views - views (of) the Shangri-la Dialogue as a forum dominated by the US and its allies, serving the interest of the US and its allies and also the topics discussed often point to differences, rather than cooperation, and divergence rather than convergence. So my question is: What role over the past years (has) Shangri-la Dialogue ... played in Asia Pacific security and how do you view the comments and opinions I have mentioned?" he said.
Said Dr Ng: "I've attended a number of conferences, I attended their Xiangshan Forum and sometimes, it's a matter of taste. I can imagine that people from the PLA come here and find this raucous a bit rambunctious. This is the Western liberal mode of many ideas. And from this, you're supposed to gain wisdom and they go back and say it was thoroughly discombobulating. That's entirely understandable."
He added: "On the other hand, when things are too structured, too predictable, people don't like to attend those, because they feel that it's too scripted, that when you say things, the end is already determined. So why not, not say it, just send me something and I can read it, rather than travel we know a few thousand miles and arrive to Singapore. For China it must decide for itself whether the Shangri La Dialogue adds value. There is no coercion for you to attend. Is it better? To come to an open platform, to subject yourself sometimes to the tyranny of questions and to what might seem a common view from others to explain yourself, or to retreat from that engagement? That is something that China must decide for itself."
"I think the People's Republic of China has benefitted hugely from the participation it has had in the Shangri-La Dialogue," said Dr Chipman, noting that there was a rare one-hour bilateral meeting between Chinese Defence Minister Wei Fenghe and US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin. (Video: Reuters)
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[@omzoilerau4404]

The Chinese general got schooled by NG and a slap on his face! You(China) are not forced to attend it is up to you if you want or not but you are free to ask and make a speech and vice-versa.

[@willcelestial4795]

😂😂😂😂

[@camotekahoy656]

Whatever you say and what you are doing reflects your bad character , your bad image shows where you came from as a threat to a peacefully community

[@aarnkgnar986]

China really came to this dialogue to embarrass themselves. Appropriately, a group of pandas is called an Embarrassment. 😂😂😂

[@dharlenesanjose3779]

Puro kayo salita

[@EnGPaCHo]

​@@dharlenesanjose3779 umintindi ka.

[@grizzy3727]

Minister Ng Eng Hen of Singapore, two thumbs up. good answer!

[@casab654]

But I saw TikTok his speech similarity to pro China ? Is it true ?

[@joshjacob745]

Dr. Ng had the perfect answer to the question by the Chinese General. It's a platform that's free for all to discuss and hear feedback on how the world views your countries and their actions. Well done Dr. NG.

[@yvvonelee5026]

I am proud of Dr Ng. Straight to the point, leaving no rooms for western medias would like to interpret differently.

[@deschan2246]

Gen? Did u promoted him? Get his rank right b4 comment.

[@deschan2246]

Ng failed badly (if u understand)

[@jlee8181]

Not only he did not have an answer to the question, he was totally rude

[@Timmy-fm5nr]

The General question or what he was told to ask was arrogant and he got the right answers back

[@hernangatchalian5925]

The World is a beautiful place to live without any greed,envy and free from all fears of conflict or wars esp.the nuclear.that can melted all creations and humanity. Lets us all be happy that for once in our life we live in a world with love and not hate to one another.we are all merely just temporarily passing through this world that is not ours.we have no rights to destroy this paradise that we live in.peace and harmony to all mankind.🙌🙏💗🌺

[@shielatee302]

👍👍👍👏👏👏 Dr Ng at his Best. Thank U.

[@erictky11]

The dialogue itself is a platform as mention by Dr Ng to express regional concern on many aspect especially on peace and stability within the Asia region. Countries that were invited to attend should have their subjective thoughts and topics they want to participate within the dialogue to provide constructive thoughts and suggestions to improve the situations within the region. It’s is also this dialogue that let everyone voice their concern and make a stand of their role within the region, instead of showing muscle around.

[@talkfacts100]

The point you lay is 'region', what is the US role in this?

[@deschan2246]

@@talkfacts100 read history for answer to yr question

[@erictky11]

@@talkfacts100 dialogue does not mean anyone play a role. If the US wanna play a role they should propose their position across with the peace and stability in mind and not giving speech to show its stance or to threaten any regional issues to create instability. To be straight up US are not needed in the region in fact for any security. They may part take in the dialogue to exchange information based on regional security issues.

[@talkfacts100]

@@deschan2246 I know the history, but do you? According to your other comments, I strongly doubt it. Why I ask is only with questions people might make a search. How you doing btw, havent seen you spam as much as you did before. Getting your life together? Which is a good thing.

[@kc-st]

@@erictky11 We will prefer the US remain engaged in the region and counter balance China. Thanks.

[@sasitharanmathavan417]

keep it unbiased and not favouring the west. this is understandable. china can decide anything but spore must not be biased and listen to all participants.

[@hangtuah888]

Singapore must not be biased is like asking if the Pope is Catholic. Singapore is the refuel and refit base of the 7th US Fleet and with that the scandals of corruption over the saga has not been broadcast in the interest of transparency. The very fact the opening speech is by the Disunited States to me the dumbest Secretary of Defense to hold the post, is proof that this is not a Dialogue but a Lecture.

[@kyawzawlinn6914]

lol wumao

[@WongFei66]

China will take over taiwan than singapore and kick all the other race out of singapore.Haha!中国🇨🇳习近平万岁万岁万万岁!!!

[@ipendot]

are you listening? 😁😁😁😁😁

[@markgilsantiago2077]

Same thinking with your master and PLA general idiots!!!

[@rain6834]

Dialogue is better then Rhetoric via media platform

[@1337hacks]

China can't tolerate dialogue. They prefer monologue and can't understand why other countries roll their eyes at their foreign and security policy.

[@ongernie7216]

What dialogue this is actually treatening and flexing of muscle.

[@LutherS2186]

Dialogue is a lot better than military confrontation. You can shout each other out and agree to disagree, as long as no violence is involved.

[@loongdechuanren1008]

Those hegemonic days are gone no matter how the summit trying to play out, China is not China of those days. See you again at any corner of the world!

[@YaoEm]

Dr. Ng nailed it!

[@christoperjoycarreon115]

Very good Sir Ng.

[@posttrue5798]

Talk and negotiation is much better than putting the conflicts into war. We are so appreciate could got a peaceful result in the border conflicts between China and India by at least 5 rounds talk. Thank God.

[@jeantcheng3650]

To have a constructive dialogue, better have a balanced agenda rather than a biased and conflictive one. The question is more about the agenda setting of the dialogue, not the dialogue itself

[@jeantcheng3650]

Biased and conflictive dialogue never leads to the peace, but to the contrary

[@Wuyh99]

The fact that he put in effort to convey in english is a big thumbs up👍

[@davidong4785]

If a nation wants to look inwardly, yes just remain within the country and communicate using native language. On the other hand if Samsung wants to go international, Samsung must also communicate in international language like what they had done. This is fundamental.

[@limxuanyi5398]

unfortunately I couldn't understand him

[@markjasonvargas4426]

Engrish

[@edlynsuya2910]

They does not like this kind of dialogue because they don't have the say in their own homecourt...

[@trumancalipes2556]

Exactly. They can't spin or manipulate the flow of the dialogue. You can see how upset they are on their faces.

[@msunny3307]

Shangri-La Dialogue is a good thing. However, I think Singapore's position is leaning more toward the west than the east. Singapore is heavy influenced by the west in many aspects. It is very difficult for China to express her views through a predominance western audiences. China is already label as an aggressor by the west but it is the west that is kicking at China's doorstep.

[@jlee8181]

It's time like these I wish LKY get up and slap the likes of 2 cents worth

[@yongwkee]

Yes, the Dialogue started with a wrong footing, dominated by the West with their bias opening and assumptions !

[@alfredyap14]

Not true. Singapore is just being neutral and need to show it is. The forum is a great opportunity for China to say her piece, defend against what the West accuses her to be and also to put her case forward. It’s always good to use the style the other party understands to communicate. Americans are pushy, China can too. There are many ways to get the message across even humorously. It’s an open forum and has to be.

[@pinkpenzu]

I prefer siding with the west than china

[@deschan2246]

West kicking China doorstep? How???

[@ReneZaspa]

We love Peace, Freedom, Liberty and Democracy

[@ssrae-2229]

so Says the Little Red Dot on the Map - S'pore you have your 2 days of fame , what's next?? Dreaming of more land....? Don't dream Reply Indonesia . LOL

[@trumancalipes2556]

@@ssrae-2229Says the West Taiwanese troll on the CCP payroll who had consumed nothing but fabricated information from state-owned media.

[@whitephoenix1513]

Hats off to Dr. Ng.

[@shanmugaretnam9868]

Precisely the purpose of such an event, in which Défense Ministers can engage on a neutral platform to express, share opinions and discuss sensitive issues. The challenge to the organisers is to keep Shangri-La Dialogue relevant, purposeful and unbiased.

[@tommyboss4067]

@Maher al-Assad At next event China will not come again. Hahaha. 😀😃😄

[@CMCJJT]

Dialogue & open discussion do not mix well with authoritarian regimes. They do not tolerate people with different views from theirs. They question others, they do not subject themselves to tyranny of questions which will be taken as challenge to their authority. They were brought up and educated this way. It shows that how dangerous the world would be if this behaviour is demonstrated by a General of a militarily powerful country.

[@hangtuah888]

@Maher al-Assad Yes, precisely that is what I thought. I hope China will realise that this is rubbish and stop attending. No loss.

[@hangtuah888]

@Maher al-Assad The Chinese guy said exactly what has transpired being as useless. How the irony is lost on him, I wondered?

[@Time4Peace]

@Maher al-Assad Very well put. Moreover, Lockheed Martin is on IISS's council. Its weapons are used in Ukraine and Taiwan. All the reasons to confront China right from the start diminishing Singapore's and Asean's neutrality stand. And Dr Ng's parisan and condescending handling of a fair question didn't help.

[@father88888]

mayb Dr Ng can ask PLA member how useful Beijing Xiangshan forum is n whether it serves interest of China....

[@kelvin-zh9fm]

Yalo. This PLA boy want to not happy show attitude then next time don't come la

[@jaytso1883]

A great reply Dr Ng

[@deschan2246]

A reply that pissed is not a great reply

[@2wood169]

A question that pissed is not a good question

[@JonKino828]

If you think that is a great reply, you must not be very bright.

[@jaytso1883]

@@JonKino828 your opinion is irrelevant and extremely dim witted

[@jaytso1883]

@@JonKino828 I know your kind

[@hegehypo5914]

PLA knowing that its participation in Shangrila forum will be well surrounded by US and all its allies and yet participated in the forum is a big encouragement and demonstrated the readiness of PLA to face the strongest allies in the world face to face

[@hangtuah888]

The first speaker stated precisely what has turned out to be, that is for the Disunited States to lecture China and nothing else. Despite evidence to the contrary and the illogic of wanting to adhere to the One China Principle and yet say they have the rights to protect Taiwan is nothing short of lying. China should not bother to come for future event as it is neither a dialogue or even a debate.

[@KevanMajere33]

You need to polish up your English. Actually, you can comment in Chinese...

[@annkoh8653]

@@KevanMajere33 I think he did a decent job of speaking in English.

[@JoeC1688]

Now the WEST cannot demonize China anymore, because they will be slapped right back!

[@jck8299]

@@KevanMajere33 i understood him fully ..he did a greatjob consdering if he aint native english speaker.. btw

[@huaweiphone6370]

We have learnt well in ASEAN and many regional fora that Jaw-Jaw is hugelt better than War-War and that many issues get resolved through incremental Dialogue - and great achievements in Peace between Statesmen as Gentlemen of Their Word. SunTzu of course will approve for this is The Way of Civilized Peoples not Savages.

[@raphaeldaar]

You cannot deny that they are some places with gangs and villages that won't accept modernisation and continue to live traditionally. And this causes conflict between people who want progress and people who want to depend only on nature.

[@jesantonihevileon8611]

@@raphaeldaar " Progress " have been proven to be a double shave sharps blade , since "progress" haven't born from common sense but from the criminals European conqueror angloxajone colonialism. And that colonialist " progress" for 6 centuries have been erasing cultures, languages, religions , dress code , etcétera , etcétera ; plus the knows looting and pillage and the infinite ripoffs... Even mención social advantage programs from the impose European civilization points of view around the world have been the reason than for the last 6 centuries the whole world has been living in a constant turmoils. Probably not body have the right to went around the world change by force and intimidation the ways of living of others human beings with the excuses of implants the progress into them. At the end of the day the imposed European progress meaning the European civilización has proven the creation of more wars , environment world contaminations , mother's nature destructions and human disgrace, massive humans emigration that the old natural tradicional way of living. Time would tell if at the end of this progress road a third World War using nuclear and atomic weapons would force all of us to return to be living in a natural way of living, but with not more dangerous progress. 6 centuries of criminals European conqueror angloxajone ethnic group imperialism have been proven that such a behavior is something very dangerous for all the others ethnics groups .

[@inpengudomsay3166]

US is war nothing else. US will lie, cheat and steal. No peace for them. Example, Yemen, afghans, irag, Syria, Libya. Did they said freedom and democracy..holla Lu ya …We mess you up so..clean up yourself we going to mess up Asians now..,

[@ssangyongA230]

China and Russia never really believe in talk talk....more of pretend make u believe, then when u least expected dependent more on them , they do the unthinkable ......its coming , Taiwan be extra aware and seriously vigilant

[@johnlim8991]

Dr Ng was bold and frank in his response to the Chinese Delegation. I hope Dr Ng can also be bold and frank with the US delegation. Otherwise, Singapore would be seen as pro-America which should never be.

[@xianseah4847]

Singapore is no longer neutral, what do you think? The country will start and end with the rule of the Lee family, there is no future.

[@greatasia606]

The US and China were having a game of poker. The US: Could you please pour some water for us? Singapore: Yes, my pleasure. Dr Ng didn't realise that they were playing poker at his house? Dr Ng didn't realise that he should be at the table playing the game as well? Ha ha ha!

[@munozgiovanni9384]

Singapore, please don't be over proud. But don't worry, China has a big heart and is famous for being strategically patient.

[@bottleneck979]

@@munozgiovanni9384 are you sure?

[@bennysamuelkoh9463]

@@xianseah4847 Rubbish

[@mikechiam2032]

If 9 people out of 10 in the room are complaining about you, it is always a good idea to look at yourself in the mirror and ask why

[@mikechiam2032]

I still remember when PLN destroyer were visible range from Spratly Islands WHEN the ASEAN-China code of conduct meeting where conducting...

[@JosephArcherH.MontesclarosMont]

When 9 dash line became 10 and imaginary owned ahah😅

[@dindondan3776]

If more people are invited in, say 100 people, will the same proportion of people, which is 90, still criticize that one original person? The way you posed the question actually presupposes a stance, which is the standard BBC questioning style. It’s evident that when you ask the question, you’ve already set a trap. The answer you’re looking for is the one you have in your own mind.

[@1_Life_2Live]

Chinese PLA REAlly have different kind of brain

[@GolDRoger-fx2fp]

​​@@1_Life_2Live because they are not human. They are uncivilized greedy people. ......

[@rommelperalta6111]

Chin was upset from attending the IISS, they were thinking that they had been fried in their own oil.

[@RaveBonti]

Definitely true.!!most of the country doesn't believe in China on what they are saying.if you have a great power,you should use it in good things!!not coercing and bullying you're neighbors..having respect is by earning not showing of force..

[@willcelestial4795]

😂😂😂😂

[@sl1737]

@rommelperalta6111, you meant gutter oil, right? 🤣

[@christoperjoycarreon115]

The general has difficulty in defending their position because it is baseless contrary to the Philippines which is supported by international law and confirmed by the arbitral ruling.

[@TanKianW79]

果然是上代长老。回复的有见识、有深度、有气场、有气量！只有见识与心胸狭小之人才会把别人给予的意见看成刀枪！如果老李还健在，我想他应该会给于更尖锐的回复吧！

[@wuwei9176]

小李子敢对美国爸爸这样讲话吗？

[@simonchua6251]

@@wuwei9176 敢

[@fed02]

I agree with Dr Ng on this. It is for China to decide if she sees value in participating in the Dialogue, to allow others to see from their viewpoints. Singapore being a host would welcome all nations to participate in the hope of better understanding between countries. It is not up to Singapore or any other countries to decide for China or could make China see the value in such Dialogues. Saying that, there is no need for the member of PLA to be hostile on this. China and USA need to come to a common understanding on how they can play an active role in world peace.

[@freddiepizerhall8324]

A bit hard when the US is trying to surround Chine with its largest armada since WW2.

[@hoekeatung1760]

Ed Sim Nobody takes a quarrel with Dr Ng reply BUT its the way he said it. He will regret having done it. To put it plainly Dr Ng's attitude was Haughty and Arrogant. His reply amounted to telling China to take it or leave it. Now who does he think he is talking to...huh??? Some insignificant nation in Africa??? China will be the Biggest economy globally by 2030 or earlier...if you dispute this please take it up with IMF or even the CIA!!! US will not be the Top Dog. I hope China will not forget this incident and hold the Singapore Defence Minister accountable then. Then China should make him squirm and sweat kow tow to China!!! Singapore Ministers and even the PM are stepping into boots TOO big for them and they not only forget that but do it with stupid enthusiasm!!! Such silly and egoistical people!

[@kelvinyeo2047]

@@freddiepizerhall8324 no one dare to act against Russia even they had walked into someone country today, do you think USA alone would act against China, without a creditable reason.

[@davepsk7334]

@@freddiepizerhall8324 They've been at that almost throughout the world. Everybodies back and front yard has some US armada waiting to strike when US deem fit. That is the reason why US never subscribe to any laws of the sea or land. US is not a part or would ever sign up to any international laws covering our planet. They want to own all of us pewny maggots.

[@fed02]

But that is because of History. The allied forces were the only ones which could stop Japan during WW2 invasion. Moreover, after the WW2, US continued to engage with the rest of the world. As for whether if China should attend such submits, it is for China to decide if they want to continue engage the world or be left in isolation like they did before.

[@wayne0316]

SG minister basically said if China is not happy with the SRD, then don’t come. Very constructive and diplomatic. LOL. If a dialogue welcomes critics against China but not critics from China. Then you know very well what the dialogue is all about.

[@ParallelComparison]

Critic or intimidation?

[@mahmoodiqbalch]

Extremely undiplomatic from SG minister. The Western mind is closed to such a point that it cannot fathom anything that is better than thier way of life and as such deeply threatened by it. Extremely childish. They have lost the plot and now resort to bigotry and bullying.

[@willwill9950]

Seriously.. China's silent coercion... trying to influence via financial contributions and often intimidate regional countries... drawing its own boundary... and often play that skin colour game... sickening!

[@fiost1489]

@@mahmoodiqbalch You know nothing about international affairs. Be quiet.

[@mahmoodiqbalch]

@@fiost1489 Thanks that prolly means I know a lot! 😉

[@aerojetrocketdyners-2538]

tl:dr: this isn't an echo chamber, you have the right to critic other people, other people have the right to critic you.

[@kelvin-zh9fm]

Haha he forgot he not in china anymore where people cant say bad things

[@Hahaha41241]

That's not what he meant, he said in short that the Shangri-la were biased.

[@punkmachine]

​@@Hahaha41241biased in what sense 😂

[@lvl5969]

​@@Hahaha41241 and he was right..

[@generver]

what a smart answer from Dr. Ng

[@fiost1489]

We are very blessed to have such a great defence Minister who has a great presence of mind to answer this type of provoking questions. This dialogue was made for more engagement and for high rank officials to meet each other,regardless of their differences.

[@murderouscountryfan8589]

So happy with his reply basically telling the CCP guy don’t want to come, don’t come. Nobody wants you around.

[@ongernie7216]

Por lam par

[@fiost1489]

@@ongernie7216 Loser, how are you?

[@namcoll90]

Dr Ng is respected Minister Sg! Good Sir.

[@भगवानगणेशभगवानगणेश]

Friends and allies? Be real - international relations is about selfish interests like the US leveraging on dollar supremacy to coerce far-off countries to toe her geopolitical line. The alliance holds as long as the US still retains her economic clout and CIA power to bring down uncooperative nations such as playing on a nation's vulnerabilities. Even Singapore - does she have friends and allies? Malaysia, Indonesia for example? In a potentially hostile neighborhood, Singapore has to secretly choose sides to gang up with so-called "friends and allies" best suited for her own economic and political survival (even as she pretends to be officially neutral). China does not have sinister CIA-like clandestine operations to threaten the small nation's survival. Singapore is safe even if she openly stands on the side of the US. Not so if she stands on the side of China.

[@annietang9599]

So good! So true!

[@squiggy18]

Its is through conversation and shared experiences, that we understand each other better. Sometime it maybe pleasant, happy. Other times pointed and uncomfortable. But the sum of all these experiences enriches the engagement.

[@boitiechee]

Solid point

[@Lu5ck]

Talking about differences is the first step of solving disputes. Not talking about it is just burying it, only to have it come back to bite you.

[@jck8299]

wats ur skin colour ?

[@Lu5ck]

​@Maher al-Assad You just proved you don't understand. PLA imply it is USA centric because the topics are generally about differences than cooperation. China officially has always been about cooperation and avoid talking about differences. Dr Ng response by citing that the SLD is following a liberal concept which imply that the topics are initiated by the participants and not dictated by the host. Therefore, indirectly implying that PLA is implying other participants are bias. Of course, he sugar coated it by saying it might be because PLA is not used to this kind of liberal discussions where participants can talk about what they want. Finally ending with advise to PLA they should decide if such liberal discussions add any values to them. At the end of the day, most participants decided that talking about differences are more important which make every sense.

[@Lu5ck]

@Maher al-Assad What you doing is having a prejudice on the moderator and using that prejudice as a justification that it isn't neutral. As long the participants are the one that continue to initial the topics and engage in the discussions, I don't think you can get any more unbias than that.

[@Lu5ck]

@Maher al-Assad Now you trying to justify your prejudice as "logical conclusion" while continuously implying the rest of the participants are idiots.

[@rainpoem2]

Arrogant and dumb

[@CuriosityCircuit2024]

a dialogue is better than a no-dialogue, however imperfect it is.

[@siddharthb2633]

this is a false binary. Dialogues are the bare minimum, better dialogues are better.

[@hatchegg80]

Probably the best off the cuff reply by a Singapore minister in recent memory, channeling lky

[@greatasia606]

The US and China were having a game of poker. The US: Could you please pour some water for us? Singapore: Yes, my pleasure. Dr Ng didn't realise that they were playing poker at his house? Dr Ng didn't realise that he should be at the table playing the game as well? Ha ha ha!

[@za7v9ier]

@es loo he was being pragmatic. If China really thinks SLD is of no value, they wouldn't be attending. This general just disgraced his country with the rhetoric.

[@Utube1024]

Mother hen talking kok lah. Why no sue China for the Terrex saga.

[@Hahaha41241]

The host went like, if China don't like this format maybe China should question itself. To me the Chinese PLA member was telling some truth, and this was not so easy hear apparently. He never said that he wanted the forum to change in term of its format, he said that he wanted the forum to not be bias towards the USA.

[@tgw3356]

He brought his WeChat hearsay to one of the most formal diplomatic meeeting, how is that even a valid point to 'some truth' like u mentioned? The top officials are working hard, the naive closed minded subordinates are undoing China back to 1900s. Brutal truth. i think everyone here already know the typical things PRC say in their closed group shut off WeChat propaganda media, and i think the response was already clear..

[@hangtuah888]

Hear, hear. That is what I hear from he PLA representative. Not sure if the Singaporean host and also Minister understood plain and simple English.

[@mcb4067]

​@@hangtuah888 This begs the awkward question - why is it so many country's in China's own neighborhood are more pro-west? Could it be that through China's own wolf-warrior diplomacy they have alienated themselves?

[@kenkens9874]

I wanna ask why do many countries hate china?

[@kenkens9874]

I wanna ask you why most of the delagate in this countries hate china?

[@blightfrog]

Commend the PLA general for speaking in English, despite being an action where many Chinese might frown upon. Showing his profound understanding of English media. How many western ministers and generals can do the same to show that they understand the east?

[@yongwkee]

Westerners are so arrogant, they only expect others to respect their views and they never bother to understand nor respect other views !

[@blightfrog]

@@Aramsa-Khan It was actually an excellent answer from Dr Eng. One that shows himself to be a skilled diplomat. Spelling it out directly will make it seems that Dr Ng is lecturing the Chinese, which will not be well received and beneficial to both Himself nor Singapore. As China obviously doesn’t need a lecture as they’ve got more scholars and talented analysts than a small island state like Singapore. Yet the answer gives light to why people still attends.

[@gabrieljy]

@@Aramsa-Khan Why do you think this is a rotten answer?

[@murderouscountryfan8589]

He was really rude, calling Dr Ng “DR HUANG” as if he was speaking Mandarin. This guy should be blacklisted immediately from all events worldwide.

[@blightfrog]

@@murderouscountryfan8589 Ng is huang(黄) in Chinese. See how westerners get angry over things you don’t understand. Is it the innard racism or the media hate you so believe to hate a nation of 1.4billion?

[@bobafett5757]

*Minister Ng is really articulate and made a remarkable speech and his answers are professionally objective so well done Minister Ng*

[@Kulo_WC]

More like arrogance and out of depth. You have low expectation.

[@dinoyuan1574]

take it or leave it is not a good enough answer from someone who is a minister of defense

[@Utube1024]

Just a few minutes of glory. Don't be so cocky trying to impress his defacto master. The last time pm lee joke about China in the US Terrex was detained. He still feeling sour that he was so hopelessly weak to do anything about it. China will take note of this and hit back when the time come. This time it will be a lot worse.

[@rainpoem2]

@@Utube1024 let’s wait n see. China to Singapore: 等得瞧吧！

[@myfriendtanky]

Essence of the message is valid from Dr Ng. But the body language and choice of some words can suggest a very different sentiment.

[@dinoyuan1574]

take it or leave it he said

[@koon2038]

Well, given the general's suspicions cast on the entire forum (and by extension, the Singaporean organisers), you want Dr Ng to respond in a meek fashion?

[@dinoyuan1574]

@@koon2038 Well, its the people of Singapore who will bear the consequences not him. Whats the benefit of offending the Chinese? Can Singapore afford to behave like Australia?

[@tymw3637]

@@dinoyuan1574 if so then the whole world will have to kowtow to them.

[@dinoyuan1574]

@@tymw3637 Well you dont seem to have any problems kowtowing to the Americans for one...

[@skgan4739]

Well, i think China has hard time adapting to learn how to be tolerant of discussing western liberal ideas at international forums at overseas venue like Spore, with questioning format via open debates & forums that arise at the Shangrila dialogue. China delegates must learn how to agree to disagree in debates, instead of trying to sow negativity n doubts on usefulness of Shangrila dialog or undermine the nature of open & transparent flow of discussions. Minister Ng's view that it"s up to China's decision to attend future Shangrila dialog is the correct reply to the China General's attempt to influence to control the open liberal flow nature of open exchanges in dialog, instead of closed door discussions n scripted or staged media Q & A briefings with reporters. .🙏😇

[@elseraga6446]

Your opinion on the matter is skewed. Countries can try to adopt this sort of forum fashion but none of them needs to adapt to such western style of dialogue, including China. When this dialogue is attended by a majority of member nations that are allies or seemingly more friendly to America, groupthink happens. Do we not expect members to set out a tone that is not so favorable to China, when even the host country is a huge buyer and beneficiary of American tech? For sure China needs to be more transparent and friendly to its regional neighbours but I think the question the Chinese member had asked, was whether this forum adds any real meaningful value to building better relations between nations.

[@murderouscountryfan8589]

@@elseraga6446 Then don’t come. That’s exactly what our minister said. Hahahaha.

[@murderouscountryfan8589]

We never have problems with any other country. All the meets not involving this problematic country have such problems!!! We should not invited this pariah ever again. Mindef remove this problematic country from the invite list next year onwards!

[@hullopillow4853]

Singapore will bow down and lick up the corresponding hegemon of each era. Hard truth. For now it is the US, and thus we have sarong party girl like you sucking up western sausage. 10 years forward, it will be China and by then your will be more respectful towards them also. Small nations should know their place.

[@buddyoo4942]

This PLA person said the platform you've provided is tilted but you all go on and give justifications of it is a mater of taste, it's suppose to be messy, uneven, take it or leave it etc.. INSTEAD of asking where have we tilted and how can we make it level in the future.

[@lifesgreat33]

Wow, He answers like LKY ? Even some similarity in the mannerism... like the shrud at just the right time...lol... Give as good as he gets .... well done.... good answer, love the mannerism....

[@JonKino828]

How are Singaporean ministers chosen? Obviously brain and skill are not part of the criteria.

[@anthonyraj3701]

@@JonKino828 Rubbish ! If Singaporean Ministers are not chosen based on brain & skill, we wouldn't have achieved so much as a nation (one of the richest country and G20 member) despite being a small country. You obviously don't know anything about Singapore !

[@rajnaidu5521]

@@JonKino828 So if you've got brain and skills,How is that ,You are not a Panelist. 🤫🤫🤫

[@jollygoodyo]

Worst answer ever by a host. Singapore will always be a follower and never a leader because of that.

[@WongFei66]

@@anthonyraj3701 China will take over taiwan than singapore and kick all the other race out of singapore.Haha!中国🇨🇳习近平万岁万岁万万岁!!!

[@williamc9578]

More pertinent to the question from the PLA official is whether the SLD want to be a forum to bring diverse opinions and opposing parties into dialogue and build understanding where possible, or whether it is a free-for-all, where as Ng Eng Hen seem to posit, adopts a Western Liberal model, and for accusations to be hurled around, in the spirit of ... dialogue? As host nation of this regional security forum, it i sin Singapore's and indeed the region's interests to facilitate dialogue, and build a modicum of trust, and where possible, undestanding. It is NOT in Singapore's or the region's interests to allow this to become a platform for grandstanding, making accusations, and indeed, ganging-up on any participant country. Surely, SLD will become irrelevant if it becomes an echo chamber for one-sided views. The Minister might want to, in his great wisdom, adopt a more circumspect perspective of what SLD is trying to achieve, rather than a glib reply.

[@Tempest-Proteus]

Totally agree with you. The SLD is going the way of the UN into irrelevance.

[@charlies5885]

Ng Eng hen dodged Gen Zhao's question on whether SLD should be an unbiased forum that bring about better understanding of the diverging views and to resolve problems. Instead of a mud slinging session with unproven and false accusations. One wonders do NEH usually speaks in this manner using all the bombastic words all in a go and glib over the question? The PLA General should have the use of a translator. Despite of its contribution in the past he good intentions of the SLD is now in question.

[@williamc9578]

@@charlies5885 I hope SLD has built enough utility in the past not to be undone by this one exchange. But yes, NEH dodged the question, which warranted a more considered response. Lloyd Austin used this SLD to push the China threat narrative. Eveyone and his dog could see that. This is surely the context for the PLA General's question. Which brings us back to my original point. What does SLD see itself trying to achieve? As a serious facilitator of dialogue, or a event organizer providing conference facilities and sandwiches. NEH's response, and I pulled my punches above, was tetchy at best, but shallow and ill-advised nonetheless. One side-note, the many responses I see in the comments section, seem to be mostly from the anti-China crowd, fixated on the PLA General being thinned-skin or objecting to critcism. I wonder how things would go down if the Chinese opted to raise the shambolic withdrawal of US forces from Afghanistan as irresponsible and incompetent.

[@jademoon1530]

Agree!

[@benpang1396]

Exactly my view, if the host lost its neutrality very soon some will boycott the dialogue. Bad wisdom as our credibility will be lost, and its hard to earn back. As in the saying that the Chinese are aggressive, I will ask, how and when? Standing up to someone pointing and sailing their guns in their backyard is aggressive??? Especially when the usa has been going around bombing others based on lies and indiscriminately!!! Really that hard to figure out???

[@tanst7859]

Shangri-la dialogue represents the views of many countries, unfortunately at this point; more countries are aligned with an open liberal world view. China represents one country’s view, albeit a large one. China should use the forum to explain and convince others of its viewpoint. I don’t think autocratic leaderships are very good in persuasion via dialogues.

[@wymmyw8744]

yes.. the dialogue represents the view limited by what the world knows from the western media point of view.. while leaving the severity of the conflict behind.. it's no different from the EU discussing about russia and ukraine before the war.. they downplay everything.. and asked russia to follow their point of view.. the point of view of the west.. and the EU are now paying for the consequences.. the danger of choosing a side in narratives.. while claiming to be neutral..

[@cat679]

@@wymmyw8744 China love wolf warrior diplomacy, and expects it to work lol

[@cat679]

@@lanlantulan Do other countries practice wolf warrior diplomacy? Do u know that honey attract more flies than vinegar?

[@tanst7859]

The folks that one hangs out with and call friends speak a lot about oneself. There are similarities with countries.

[@Lu5ck]

China's viewpoint as spoken is the dialogue should be more about discussing how they can collaborate with each other instead of talking about their differences which naturally involve disputes. Shangri-la dialogue in general believe that talking about the differences is more important as it is long term solution to solving disputes. Obviously, China believe that talking about collaboration is better for peace. There is a obvious ideology clash, albeit political than logical I say.

[@smileywong3052]

I believe the question was directed at the west. I do agree as prevailing issues seems to tilt toward me west position n China may felt the meetings agenda is for Chinese to respond positively. The west however uses this as a platform to go against China. In short, as an sg, I stand on the Chinese side.

[@Kulo_WC]

Any sane person will stand on Chinese side. Same cannot be said of your defense minister. How did he got this job? By brown nosing the white.

[@alanpoh4654]

I agree with you, I remember south China sea incident a few years ago

[@Time4Peace]

Perhaps it's time for Singapore to review whether SLD has outlived its value to Singapore and Asean. SLD has been associated with a British think tank comprising on its council mainly European academics, journalists and CEOs, including the chairman of Lockheed Martin. Lockheed Martin is the largest weapons manufacturers in the world. Its weapons are used in Ukraine and Taiwan. SLD started about 20 years ago where this region is definitely more peaceful. Amidst the current US-China tension, Singapore and Asean are treading a very delicate tightrope of diplomacy not to choose side. US wants confrontation and the SLD unfortunately reflected that. The message from Singapore and Asean have been one of peaceful coexistence between US and China. Confrontation brings insecurity, instability and risks of war to this region. Not good for everyone, especially Asean caught in the cross-fires. It's time for Singapore and Asean to rethink the SLD to take charge of it with the objectives in line with the aspiration of Asean. Singapore and Asean, with half a billion population, have their think tanks too and can decide for themselves what is best for this region.

[@yihaooo6924]

No thanks wumao.

[@mawdervaart]

I really love Minister Ng's response, well thought out and articulated..

[@greatasia606]

He was barking nia! What well thought out and articulated? Ha ha ha!

[@medialcanthus9681]

He's obvi speaking for allied side n said China need not attend if it doesn't want to .

[@munozgiovanni9384]

Singapore, please don't be over proud. But don't worry, China has a big heart and is famous for being strategically patient.

[@Buttercookies0]

@@medialcanthus9681 Do not twist his words.

[@Buttercookies0]

@@munozgiovanni9384 That's your perception. Singapore is a gentleman.

[@pr0newbie]

If Singapore can't handle the heat it's best we keep a low profile. I doubt we have the nous to be an arbiter for these 2 behemoths. LKY is no longer with us - best not to have delusions of grandeur.

[@tankman20064]

lky god huh

[@pr0newbie]

@@tankman20064 Well respected at the very least. Charlie Munger has a bust of him in his house. Can you imagine anyone else this influential owning a life sized bust of our current leaders? Or a Western one for that matter. Boris Johnson, Joe Biden, kamala harris, Ursula etc.?

[@respin1552]

Who can handle the heat? There’s no precedent for handling great power competition like this. But we have to do it because we have a stake in handling our footing between the two. And also, Singapore is not equal to LKY. Pls stop invoking him like some deity.

[@pr0newbie]

@Respin you seem offended by the critique of the current crop of leaders. Who's deifying LKY? Singapore's intentions are well-meaning but it must be pragmatic and not end up overreaching with ill-conceived public initiatives. The risk-benefit may not be worth it. Case in point - Political analysts would tell you that this event has further eroded ties between the US and China. Even worse, it may cast us in greater negative light with China. Is this the outcome we planned for? Our greatest strengths are pragmatism and the ability to replicate proven, successful models and plug them into our system. This ain't it.

[@Utube1024]

@@tankman20064 Definitely not God but he able to tell them go to hell while making their journey enjoyable.

[@Joeys_Viewbox]

Speakee Ng gave a very educated answer regarding the china general question. This chinese general was not asking rather injecting unfounded insinuations.

[@ukchatman4920]

I believe the issue is the PLA and CCP are not used to open criticism in Global forums, whereas the US has always operated in these forums and had to work with the quite toxic western media..... The PLA's defense is to criticise the open forum as they believe its are serving the interests of the US, this s not the case the Shangri-La Dialogue is serving the interest of open dialog. China have used it well to Globally put down a marker on Taiwan and then claim its in the US interests? Its only a platform.....

[@Buttercookies0]

@DeRucci Then the PRC would have perceived it wrongly to think that Singapore is a Chinese country. It is not. It is a multi-racial country.

[@pinkpenzu]

@DeRucci its not a chinese country. And china should stop treating it as is

[@coolio5975]

@DeRucci this is an international forum, irregardless of race, language and religions.

[@Time4Peace]

@DeRucci Singapore a Chinese country? Where are you from?

[@Time4Peace]

It a fair comment that the Chinese official make. He's asking the objective of the forum. Is it one for confrontation or cooperation. Don't you think so?

[@rogersommerville828]

Why Ukraine was invited to IISS but not Russian? As Mr Ng said China could decide to attend the IISS, why not let Russian to have a chance to make that decision?

[@yvvonelee5026]

I suspected someone in the organizing committees purposely forget to sent out the invitation?

[@lewisliew6479]

SG is pro US thought they don't want to be too obvious, the way Ng reply to a China general, take it or leave it say it all, I doubt he will behave the same when a US general ask similar question

[@vennsim71]

Pretty sure Russia has plenty to talk about in the previous few UN conventions… maybe getting Russia and Ukraine on the same table again in Shangri-La dialogue will turn this into yet another Ukraine War discussion, rather than focusing on other important topics, easing tensions elsewhere and bring about more cooperation for longer term betterment.

[@father88888]

great rebuttal from Dr Ng to this PLA fellow.....how useful the dialogue is is determined by how useful n constructive its members are...

[@johntwohy8337]

yeah, trying to get back at China for the Terrex saga.

[@ajrpromotions]

fair question non the less

[@Utube1024]

only for a few seconds but pm lanlan go to China to beg Terrex released.

[@davidtay9347]

Then asked the PLA General why would he come out with this sort of accusations that the forum served only interests for the west

[@father88888]

@@davidtay9347 serve interest of west n rest of the world....except china.....

[@samgooi1905]

Shangri-la dialogue is the place for " he said, she said " At the end of the day the net gainer are the hotel, restaurants, airlines, etc ...

[@junksails814]

Could have done the same on Whatapp and Telegram - what a F.waste of time.

[@louischau7982]

Indeed it is the same question regarding the UN . It has been established for a long time and what are getting outcomes ? War everywhere so what is the purpose then ?

[@woodbridgebeilun7512]

Clearly Dr. Eng is taking the side and offending Chinese, which is not good.

[@MRT-co1sd]

Sangria-la dialogue is for the West to question China from the West’s view point, it’s not for peace. There’s is no need or no use for China to rebuttal point for point when you have different narratives of the world. China needs to state their narrative and views and bring evidence that the West is a bunch of hypocrites of which there’s plenty. In short Shangri-la dialogue is a stage for war, an information war, it’s not really a dialogue that’s why it is hypocritical.

[@samleong9629]

The Chinese rep spoke in english. He could express better in mandarin. Clearly he did to be polite to the US & its allies. Spore minister should display more class as a host.

[@nexusdues3028]

You know CCP when they lying when they speaking 😂

[@oldtabrough1026]

I agree. It's up to PLA if they want to engage the region and hear others point of view or u can stay at home and claimed that the world is trying to "bully" china

[@chinkhuan]

bombastic words is NOT communication or dialogue ... ... pseudo angmou.

[@clintton888888]

Why Asia need to gain a voice in the Dialog if it is setup as Asia voice with all pro asia speech ( isnt it already asia;s voice and no need to gain?) ( sound like ceremony not dialog) ? to engage in multi voice enviroment take a bit of time for those not use to and they might feel meaningless , unlike inside a commu country meeting or army ceremony

[@joekerr8334]

Asia ? Asia no longer exists according to US ! It is now Indo-Pacific ! And East Asia is now called North Pacific ! Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[@choonhockong8215]

SG Defence Minister must be careful in his speech. Must not be seen we are tilting towards US and its allies. Yes, we totally depend on US and its allies for military weapons, training bases for our military personnel. We are also a trading hub need to trade with all countries. Will China sanction us on trade etc? What will happen if a bloody war broke up over Taiwan independence, US got Quad, Aukus and its allies to fight against China. Hope SG not be forced to send our NS personnel to fight alongside with US and its allies against China.

[@greatasia606]

The Shangri-La Dialogue is too big for little Singapore to handle, it should be shifted to a bigger country, Indonesia.

[@Floof1248]

SG Defense Minister Dr Ng replied is already said it all. He thinks China need Singapore.

[@tiowpengong9450]

He is already very careful in his choice of words. You should ask what if one day china decide to extend their nine dotted line into our territory water, so what you want our sons to do? Sit back and forget about the oath they taken on the first day they enter NS

[@farrahkong1998]

You're thinking too much.

[@ML-yu5ij]

We are the largest contributor of FDI in China and the 2nd largest in the US

[@albertfoo7952]

It is obviously the western summit to corner China . SG should be always neutral just because we speak English as a national language for communication , and our army were send to train in US Australia and Taiwan.

[@Kulo_WC]

Spore defense minister is a disgrace for you Sporeans.

[@theheavenlyoption]

China's aggression and power play is a very valid concern for everyone in the region and needs to be addressed.

[@ogapadoga2]

Ng Eng Hen used all the words that is not at the China general's level. He will not be able to understand anything.

[@haidan45]

sure, so that's and you and YOUs' philosophy， say it to the other person, but not to make the other person understand. You call it wisdom or justicie, don't care if others regard it as arrogance or evil.

[@greatasia606]

The US and China were having a game of poker. The US: Could you please pour some water for us? Singapore: Yes, my pleasure. Dr Ng didn't realise that they were playing poker at his house? Dr Ng didn't realise that he should be at the table playing the game as well? Bobby, you can understand Ng Eng Hen's words? You are so clever. Ha ha ha!

[@medialcanthus9681]

He's trying to show off he's more angmoh. China's reply will be we'll drill thru Isthmus of Kra.

[@pcloh6431]

They hv auto translation lah. This is high tech conference lor. Yr brain is still low tech but yr concern is noted by goggle translator.

[@Utube1024]

He is hoping not to get a reply from that Chinese military personnel, that's all. In another words chicken out throwing smoke screen while retreating.

[@Zincgton]

This general is making lame noise assigned to him. It is incredibly naive for China to use this forum to make propaganda noise. It is good as saying that if one does not take China's position, then you are serving the interest of the adversary. The point of note is that the majority of countries in Asia Pacific region with border beside China tend to have disputes with her. China is all alone and plain lone wolf. Do you expect your neighbours to kowtow to you and singing your tune, and only then this is a proper fair dialogue? Note that China sends her defence minister to the Dialogue but not leadership from its central military commission. In their autocratic system, only the very top can make decisions, and the rest can just echo his thoughts or engage in propaganda. This is exactly what this chap is trying to do. It is clear they are here to hear and make some noise, but then go back to relay what has been heard. In no way are they capable of any decision-making or intelligent talk. Ng's reply is apt - it is up to China to want to seriously resolve the differences and if you think you cannot do it in this dialogue, by all means stay out.

[@kyb2027]

Lol unless war start . SG is becoming to cocky now as days. if it was free dialogue then why the western side questions were more dominate and does this kind of illogical dialogue even gonna give any result . Look at Russia Ukraine war. Isn't usa and Russia also had dialogue for 14 year where has it being. That's what china side is trying to say I guess . Every question was only abut taiwan is not part of china taiwan is not part of china lol is that even a question. Or dialogue

[@Tempest-Proteus]

The SLD is going the way of the UN into irrelevance. Sadly, the SLD is now being used by the US and the West for grand standing, false or unsubstantiated accusations, etc. Defence Minister Ng's response can be seen as "tainted with arrogance" and this effectively puts Singapore in danger of making the "Dragon" pull out of future SLD, thus, making the SLD irrelevant and a "NATO". My 2 cents!

[@Dragon-gl1rw]

It doesn't look like a dialogue going on.

[@bluecheese5172]

Ng eng hen needs an injection of diplomacy as the Host of the event. Chicken or Hen ,. He is no cockerel, Emphasis on Respect is essential.

[@epsilonxvi5675]

It usually 11 dashline now since they added a island that named st.james reef which was a malaysian island.

[@HermitQuack]

Learned new words from Dr Ng Eng Hen.

[@johnny-ih5es]

What's the guest star Zelensky doing here without Russia sending its representative to attend the dialogue?

[@murderofcrows2179]

ask Russia.

[@unsulliedthe832]

When an ordinary official Dr. John Chipman can offer a professional reply to the query raised by the Chinese side, he stands in contrast to the embarrassingly incompetent response proffered by our highly paid defence minister. Which highlights the point Ng Eng Hen in Singapore is paid far beyond his intelligence and capability. More importantly, this dialogue is broadcast all over the world and Singapore's leadership falling short put us all in a very negative light.

[@MosesGTC]

Dr Ng is quite charming..the way he talk...admire 🙏🏻

[@deepone5005]

Dr Ng doesnt know his position well, lecturing the Defence Minister of a 1.4 bil people and proven world class Military, in contrast to his own unproven paper General qualification - a talk-down habit developed locally with his secured job. He isnt as savvy enough to overcome it on world stage , unlike LKY whose diplomatic skills and statescraft are beyond comparison in Spore then. Correction: Dr ( Med) Ng has never been a General. He was a practising doctor before being inducted into the govt, and put on an express train to the current post.

[@leetan3306]

I agree totally with you. He is brought up with Western diet, a typical white man’s mentality, talk down on others!

[@ตายายใจดี]

American's lap dog not differ from his leader?

[@deepone5005]

@@leetan3306 Lack of political finesse and humility on a world stage.Lack of self awareness. Being fluent in English is one thing, conveying a respectful conversation is another. Just another entitled doctor pretending to be a Defence Minister. BG George Yeo would have done a better job for Spore. LKY - the only Spore leader that China and its people truly admired & respect - is has no peer here.I cringed at his patronising reply to the Defence Minister of a 2mil strong world-class army.

[@pinkpenzu]

"proven world class military" lmao. Most are inexperienced boy scouts with unproven generals.

[@deepone5005]

@@pinkpenzu Read up the Korean war for yr own education. Read up what is hypersonic gift for update. Read up the PRC weapon arsenal. Today's war is not fought with Spore Saf soldiers playing with M16 and WW2 APC. M113

[@johntwohy8337]

Well said, NE Hen. Once not needed, you can go under the bus.

[@MayanMe365]

The Singapore minister spot on in his answer!

[@tazragames6770]

It must be in the collective interest of nations in the region and not some far away on the pretext of freedom which they have yet to practise. As such, the region shall make its own regional laws and not western laws.

[@julianho6791]

We are enacting the law that favours our own taste…

[@hangtuah888]

No, lah, Singapore is collectively known by the geopolitical analysts as the lapdog of the Disunited States mah. How else you want to impress the master and then let them have the keynote speech to sledge their rivals. Talk about setting up the trap.

[@Buttercookies0]

@@hangtuah888 That's your perception.

[@hangtuah888]

@@Buttercookies0 Ha, ha, ha, Singaporean with a morality and backbone is like believing the earth is flat. Yes, it is my perception if you looked up the agenda and the keynote speaker name. That is not a perception but a fact. The PRC noticed it too and working with the Thai to open the Isthmus of Kra canal. In Hokkien of which I am not, it is called bo lan par aka no balls.

[@johnnyw6467]

@@Buttercookies0 Oh please it already shown to everybody Singapore is just lapdog of US. Talk to me when Singapore is truly sovereign country.

[@jdokona5480]

It is very difficult almost near impossible to have a dialogue with nations that view themselves as priveled and entitled. Must not forget westerners have begrudely accepted that slavery and colonisation has been abolished. It will take another 200 years to accept this fact.

[@thaitraveller9756]

True

[@buckpittenterprises7225]

A long long long long time ago.

[@choonhockong8215]

No choice, US is calling the shots. Super power we got to kowtow to Uncle Sam. Don't listen to big brother will get whacking.

[@logic8673]

Whichever super power (empire), they provide stability for the period, good or bad. Westen supremacy currently allowed all of us including China to progress. When I say progress, I mean we as common people, getting more rights and priviledges. This rights we enjoy is not a given. Looking at thousands of years of history, we are living in an abnormal period of peace for most people. China wants to take us back to their version of a god like central control. Deng place controls with democratically leaders electing their leaders but Xi Jin Ping dismantle the controls related to him giving him more uncheck power. I certainly don't want a fascist leader that call the shots and think he is a living god.

[@thaitraveller9756]

They shoot more of there own people

[@hernangatchalian5925]

Kudos to all the organizer of the IISS esp.The President of singapore and prime minister as well for this flatform atleast to enlighten each contries. What is the basis of legality and differences to hear.its a grateful honor to singapore for the efforts they have conducted.thank you Singapore.

[@zenweaver]

Ng En Hen using his very competent command of the english language to show the difference between chinese in SG and China.

[@JonKino828]

Are you saying that SG Chinese are arrogant?

[@zenweaver]

@@JonKino828 In Singapore there is mental Hospital.Something wrong with your brain.Please report

[@pinkpenzu]

@@JonKino828 sg chinese are more exposed to the world through english while in china they are trapped in a bubble, ignorant of the world

[@meganfoxbf]

​@JonKino828 - a china idiot general trying to act smart in front of the world defense ministers

[@masterkoi29]

Singapore think carefully coz if china cuts it's trade with Singapore. Singapore will need to import to other western countries. Singapore must not take sides but become neutral. US was using the shang rila dialogue to made conflicts.

[@deschan2246]

China will lose more if it cut trade with Singapore

[@bobafett5757]

We need to even think more carefully if USA cuts ties with us then who is going to defend us from the unknown ? Sg is neutral all the way we respect both USA and China so stop accusing USA about brewing a conflict in this dialogue cos its dangerous

[@asiacuisine4869]

Minister Ng use of uncommon, obscure, big english words towards non-native speakers itself is says alot. This is a pro-west forum. Loll. Having the dialogue in Sg is never neutral. Sg appears neutral but is infact more pro-US. Look at Sg PAP. The founders are all western universities trained, while opposition with Chinese education background were jailed.

[@jovimathews]

Excellent response from Mr Chipman and Dr Ng! 👏👏👏👏 Singapore, ASEAN had stayed strong through Covid and shall prevail again in whatever you throw at us.

[@bernieone9286]

Candid and relevant feedback worthy of reflection and not to be dismissed in the usual PAP high handedness.

[@huddertoofs]

High handed to own citizens never fails but wit external parties? Ordinary citizens only hope we don't end up suffering like Ukraine

[@anthonyyang870]

Dialogue with openness/fairness is definitely better than conflict. Any world organisation like UN study the course of conflict n war during the past twenty years. Was those necessary n any preventive measures.

[@avidika882]

dont think you understood his point. dont be a china apologist.

[@avidika882]

i mean misunderstood Mr Ng's point.

[@yummytummy88]

There nothing in the dialogue that show any fairness and openiness. Signapore has been on the pocket of US for a while. Just look at their CNA media. Constantly anti China bias report. If Trump still on WH, he wouldn't call it fake news.

[@johnnyw6467]

@@avidika882 Mr Ng point is Singapore will always remain as US lapdog.

[@user-dv4rh2my1x]

China doesn't know what a forum is.

[@punkmachine]

Cuz they don't have a voice once they start a forum CCP will stop them instantly. So they have no clue the importance of forum.

[@simonlim7652]

America please do not try to create another mess in Asean or Asia , just look at the Atlas, it is better for everyone if you remain in your own yard.

[@deschan2246]

Wat mess has US created?

[@pr0newbie]

@@deschan2246 just look at LATAM and the middle east. Read/watch videos on the wolfowitz doctrine.

[@kyb2027]

@@pr0newbie Ukraine as well

[@pr0newbie]

@@kyb2027 for sure but they US-funded fact checkers continue to deny this despite the leaked Nuland phone conversation and multiple senators brazenly acknowledging it publicly.

[@MajarReliqa]

ShangriLa Dialogue is a gathering of intellectuals and civilized people who want to choose the path of peace rather than aggression. If China wants to prove itself worthy to be a leader of peace and progress in the region it should have brought peaceful initiatives, on the contrary, its delagates attended in military uniforms and attempts to discredit the value of ShangriLa Dialogue.

[@buttlebe]

HAHAHAHAHHA....! He used such bombastic words, the general must be scratching his head! He doesnt understand the reply but cannot be open about it. Well answered! Hahahha

[@greatasia606]

The US and China were having a game of poker. The US: Could you please pour some water for us? Singapore: Yes, my pleasure. Dr Ng didn't realise that they were playing poker at his house? Dr Ng didn't realise that he should be at the table playing the game as well? Ha ha ha!

[@jayztv3345]

Good answers honorable NG of singapore..

[@ayambo3281]

Chipman gave an answer befitting such a forum. He used his experience and wisdom to provide a suitable response to the delegate's question, unlike the Sg minister.

[@corkystorky]

SG minister addressed the motive, Chippy addressed the reason

[@djoledjole5007]

How can the Khazarian town branch in Singapore have a defense minister :):))???

[@Time4Peace]

China has a point. The Dialogue can improve. My impression is that it's now a boxing match, with more boxers in the ring from one side than the other. I'm not sure how much Singapore can control the contents of the Dialogue since IISS is in charge. If this Dialogue affects Singapore's position of neutrality, it's best to let go of the Dialogue. Singapore can live without the Dialogue but must be on good terms with all - China, US and Asean.

[@CalvinK300]

Does this means Shangri la Dialogue has more relevance than ever? Because this forum provided the boxing ring for countries to compete within accepted rules. If you take away the official boxing ring, then the boxers will do street fighting with no rules or proxy wars or underground fight club. Isn’t that worse?

[@Time4Peace]

@@CalvinK300 Firstly, If you are providing a boxing ring, make sure you have fairer representation or else one party may feel going into the ring just to be bashed. Secondly, most of the points in bashings and responses to them are already known and expected. So what's the point? Singapore's neutrality is more important than the Dialogue as Singapore is treading a very delicate line. It's also unclear what IISS's objectives are. But I believe the Dialogue can be improved to achieve some set goals and deliverables on co-existence. That's provided China will still be attending!

[@Scambuster491]

Your comments proved that Singapore did a great job in holding this dialogue as a neutral party. In other countries, I doubt China’s delegation will be allowed to voice out.

[@CalvinK300]

@@Time4Peace as if China’s presence is very important? That all nations must kowtow to PRC? Like what my Minister Dr Ng said, you find value you come, if not, don’t come or downgrade your delegates. Simple logic.

[@Time4Peace]

@@CalvinK300 Singapore's neutrality is important, at least it wants to be seen to be fair to all. Peace, coexistence and cooperation are inevitable and the Dialogue is an instrument to promote that. You can't have a fruitful dialogue with China, one of the 2 elephants, in the room missing. This Dialogue could have invited peacemakers like American Jeffrey Sachs to give another perspective why power play between nuclear nations is highly dangerous. More can be done, with deliverables planned to promote coexistence. While not all deliverables might be achieved given the short period, it's always worth trying for the sake of peace.

[@bl4ckb3ll]

I dont understand what mr eng said. Is it my english bad or he is too rambling?

[@bennysamuelkoh9463]

Your comprehension is very bad even with abc English

[@mannymarquez1513]

Does the MONROE DOCTRINE imposed by the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA to his neighboring countries as far as LATIN AMERICAS were discussed with these countries? Have they approved it all?

[@allblacks405]

Motherhen looks like the only pap mp with that kind of cbai face. He tries to imitate LKY demeanor but he has none of the finesse.

[@bennysamuelkoh9463]

Such a chibai analysis..

[@भगवानगणेशभगवानगणेश]

How did Singapore choose a cbai face to become Defence Minister?

[@minloo3219]

The Chinese manages their public statements stringently and with purpose. The questioner may well be providing a collective feedback from their Gov. The minister's reply can be interpretated by Chinese/PLA delegates to take it or leave it for future Shangri-La Dialogue. Singapore earned itself the unique neutral position to hold this global event that provide important dialogue opportunity for adversaries. Such event without China will be one-sided and irrelevant. I hope the minister rectify any potential misunderstanding with the Chinese delegates post session.

[@1singapore]

Ng Eng Hen has shown his bias openly to the public. He should clarify now that it was his own personal opinion not done in good taste nor good faith as the host nation to the prestigious event. Ng should have studied and learn from PM Lee's clear neutral stand and articulation during PM'S speeches in his recent visit to Washington.

[@acheeyk]

Arrogant ccp delegates with low intellect in ensuring a peaceful world. They warongers ccp.

[@richardho7616]

Well said. For Minister Dr Ng to imply "Take it or Leave it" in reply to the Chinese General sounds rude n undiplomatic!

[@foddermucker]

I couldn't have answered it more bluntly than the Singaporean Defense Minister did.