China's 6th Gen Carrier Fighter Appears

[@mikes.4136]

It’s very difficult to tell, but it’s large. I agree with the assessment, that the J-50 would be the most likely candidate on the mock up of the carrier.

[@pooyasafaei2538]

Look at the naval shipyard que: _Almost all type 052Ds are done building, all 38 of them _3 more type 055 and the planned numbers of 14 are done _No more type 054A as they built 44 of them for PLAN No more new plans are declared. Which means, what would be chinas plans for navy for the next step? We know how fast they can build things, would there be an enormous order of nuclear capable super carriers?

[@yours_sincerely48]

Not all shipyard can support buolding large nuclear aircaft carrier .. PLA needed 16 type 55. They will switch back making comercial ship or export naval ship.

[@ChrisZ901]

I thought the type 055 would have 2 batches of 8 vassles each, which totals to 16

[@garfieldlulu5035]

Chinese here. The CVN can only be built in Dalian or Shanghai. Rumors say the ship is already under construction, and the first block should be completed around 2023 or 2024. There are still 055s, 076s and 901s to be build in order to form the CSG. And destroyers like 051B, 052 and 052B should also be replaced by the end of 2020s. The 053H1, 053H1G, 053H3 frigates should also be replaced by 054B.

[@TheTraveler2222]

They will be building more supply ships

[@gelinrefira]

@@garfieldlulu5035 They might start ramping up 054B production once the 054A batch is done. Then the 054B can also replace all those older, smaller destroyers that have obsolete system. Those old destroyers are not that much larger or carry more weapons than the new 054B frigate.

[@igan2547]

Stay quit and let the success make noise. China has the real definition ❤. Love from India.

[@cccc-zz8cy]

50 cent comment right here lmao

[@jacobl5488]

@@cccc-zz8cy yeah cause anyone that does not agree with you is 50 cent, sure dude, people cannot possibly hold a different opinion.

[@Wvk5zc]

@@cccc-zz8cy if ionly i can meet you IRL to show my 50 cents

[@saellenx3528]

​Cope comment right here lmao.😂😂​@@cccc-zz8cy

[@_Wai_Wai_]

@@saellenx3528 American politicians have split personality, sometimes they say China is threat, sometimes they say China is paper tiger.

[@taiwanstillisntacountry]

Meanwhile the mighty Tesjas still delayed and delayed.

[@SomeoneFromBeijing]

The Chengdu J-50 is clearly a Tejas copy.

[@ralphricher1125]

Indians even couldn't produce MIG-21 with USSR help before.

[@iossysm]

@@SomeoneFromBeijing 🤣🤣🤣

[@_Wai_Wai_]

@@ralphricher1125 Indians don't even use public toilets, they go poo poo pee pee in the streets.

[@ltribley]

Some experts now believe that China is 8 to 10 years ahead of the US on its 6rh Generation aircraft development. This means by the time the US goes into 6th generation production, China will be deploying their 7th Generation. China's world-leading scientific and engineering talent has helped it to leapfrong "generational" technology in a number of fields. However, the US is not graduating PhD scientists and engineers in sufficient quantities to compete with China meaning it will continue to lag behind.

[@鄂凯]

Too optimistic. The technological reserves of US are surely still greater than China's at present. However, there are problems with US's cost control, which will definitely lead to poor performance in terms of the schedule.

[@Gongolongo]

As impressive as China is. I HIGHLY doubt that. China is approximately on par or at best slightly ahead in development.

[@shark-h3s]

You just have to look at the eudcation in the US and then compare that with china's. I bet a "normal" 10 year old chinese school kid would outsmart 80% of all Americans. And over 50% of the engineers and scientists of the US aren't even from the US. So it's absolutly realistic that china is ahead.

[@gumpyoldbugger6944]

Right now, it is a matter of debate of who is ahead in the race to field the first Gen 6 fighter....some say China is 2 to 4 years behind the US, other say it the US that is 2 to 4 years behind China and yet others believe they are on par with each other, only time will tell. Either way, it's pretty impressive what China has been able to do both nautically and aeronautically in the past 25 years.

[@gumpyoldbugger6944]

@ One of the biggest problems the US has is that much of their technical talent is starting to age out and is not being replaced in sufficient numbers as only 20% of the US's University/College graduates are in the STEM programmes. Whereas in China, fully 40% of their graduates are in the STEM fields, so China is producing more technical talent required to grow their industries and develope new systems. The Chinese spend about 36% of what the US does on defence, development and procurement, but they get a much bigger bang for their buck, or yuan. Part of the US problem is that it uses a cost plus system to pay for both the R&D of weapon system, as well as their manufacturing. This system does little to incentivize firms like Boeing, Lockheed Martin etc to cut costs and waste out of their programmes, after all the more it cost, the more they make. I wasn't able to find what system the PLA uses to pay for the manufacture and development of weapon systems, but it would seem it is more tightly controlled than the rather loosey goosey system employed by the US.

[@GavinQuan]

The mock up in Wuhan is for type 005. Type 004 should be an optimization version of Fujian carrier which has been suspected being building in Shanhai now.

[@shrekrovsky8626]

Meanwhile, the US will acquire the world's largest immovable aircraft carrier -------- Greenland!

[@jhulvincentcalabia4784]

They'll rename it fort Habakkuk

[@gumpyoldbugger6944]

Not if the Danes and Greenlanders have a say in the matter, which they do......and that word to the US is f**k off and go pound salt.

[@MrAdhiSuryana]

And you think the world will be okay for that? 😂

[@gumpyoldbugger6944]

Not if the Greenlanders and Danes have anything to say about it, and they do.......basically they are saying f-off and go pound salt to Trump and the US.

[@shrekrovsky8626]

@ It depends on your definition of "the world".

[@ChuckNorrizzed]

When will a pack of these jets pay a visit to Hawaii and Guam?

[@danielmartin7838]

You should research what happened the last time someone attacked Hawaii

[@taiwanstillisntacountry]

North-Korea? Vietnam-war? Afghanistan? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Keep watching Hollywood movies

[@chingtuckmeng1122]

@@danielmartin7838 USA now? stronk

[@jacobbaumgardner3406]

@taiwanstillisntacountryyeah, all those ones America went to the enemy. Hawaii the enemy went to America. Clear difference, and history shows. Generally the aggressor loses.

[@octagonPerfectionist]

@@jacobbaumgardner3406actually, modern hawaii is the result of american colonialism. fruit companies lobbied the US to invade and annex hawaii.

[@andrean2247]

So 003 with is J35 and 004 with J-XX

[@鄂凯]

In recent years, China's military-related R&D has seen a blowout, somewhat similar to the Cambrian Explosion. In China, the construction capacity of China itself may even struggle to keep up with its own R&D speed. For example, the steam catapult that was originally planned for the 003 aircraft carrier never got the chance to be installed on board. Now it seems that the J-35 might face a similar situation. At least the number of units both in PLAAF and PLAN will not be large.

[@zhouzhang4529]

知道什么叫一步到位吗，别人踩过的坑再踩一边有什么意义

[@biochemwang2421]

9:57 This is definitely a mock-up of the so-called J-50, with two tail wings at the vertical position. You can even see the shadow of at least one tail wing on this photo.

[@ahmadalastal5303]

whether you like it or not, China is working hard to catchup and they are very close, I can imagine China in 2030

[@superpooper_2030]

questions also being asked about great India tejas and amca

[@鄂凯]

Very good comment. The design of carrier-based jet should all be attributed to SAC.

[@banneduser978]

Did this fly over the air craft carrier in the south china sea yet

[@djinn666]

The mock-up looks to have been covered by a tarp and has tail fins. The wing tips are sharply angled, reminiscent of a 4th Gen.

[@GGLEDOU]

A former Aussie Defence Minister said the F-35 is a lemon.

[@ayo-v1p]

What does that mean 😂

[@kennydude7971]

It's not.

[@honfmeilingfleet957]

most Modern Warships players always use Type 004 than Type 003 because its better

[@hughmungus2760]

the shape looks suspiciously like the AVIC-601S Dark Sword. But Its the size of a flanker. It may very well just be a J15 with a tarp over it though. The lack of corroborating photos makes it hard to confirm anything.

[@lagrangewei]

it kinda look like the supersonic UCAV program.

[@hughmungus2760]

That being said. If china were to have a 6th gen carrier fighter, the J50 would make the most sense as developing a third 6th gen would get cost prohibitive.

[@gelinrefira]

Hmm is there something wrong with your mic. It sound less quality than usual.

[@EurasiaNaval]

Yeah I'm overseas and recorded on my phone.

[@Team6OWG]

@@EurasiaNaval Bro went to China to see the 6th gen first hand. 😅

[@gelinrefira]

@@EurasiaNaval Have fun!

[@timothychung4811]

What are the chances both J36 and J50 will be put on the up coming 5th carrier? I'm hypothesizing that by the time the 5th carrier is done building, the two 6th gen will be put into services officially, both with dramatic and revolutionary engines? They successfully tested the detonating wave engine, and they have seasoned scramjet technology. I just saw a vlog yesterday stating a potential scramjet/detonating pulse combo for the J36. Quite interesting...

[@jetsamjetsam]

any chance they will quickly adopt the new planes and stop j20 production within next 2-3 years?

[@伤-e1j]

不会，j20s非常有潜力

[@jetsamjetsam]

@@伤-e1j what happened to yang wei?

[@hughmungus2760]

There is a small chance that this could be the 'J50' but that would imply the aircraft has variable geometry tailplanes, Which differs from rear photos of the J50 in flight, showing they are entirely tailless.

[@watcher5729]

not a fortune cookie but VTOL uCavs stealth cheaper and quicker to make being smaller and less reliant on pilots feel being more in the works

[@HellaSayHella]

My 6th gen super submarine just launched too.

[@Absolut531kmh]

May I know the current state of the type 004 carrier?

[@suspected9782]

Still building

[@kumbackquatsta]

it's actually that chinese sub that sunk in the yangtze

[@Blixey-r9z]

“All warfare is based on deception. There is no place where espionage is not used. Offer the enemy carton boxes to lure him. “ Sun Tzu

[@ltrond]

军工组

[@SomeoneFromBeijing]

It's just a prank bro it's a wind-powered model. Nothing to worry about.

[@LuobingSong]

沈飞机型展弦比远大于成飞机型，直观上还是更偏向于低速气动构型优化，更像是需要在低速段优化着舰性能的航空母舰舰载机 但是也就是这么一说，人眼不能测RCS，人眼也不能测飞行包线，实际的操纵性还是要实际看极低速条件下的操纵力大小 不过考虑到未来空战性能，其实终究还是要强化2马赫以上的高速性的，是不是用了一些变弯度特性去优化超音速气动就不得而知了，人眼肯定看不出来这个，要靠实验和计算的 未来航空母舰设计目前也是悬而未决，唯一能确定的事情是不会再停滞在15万吨以下的吨位了，中国海军暂时不需要进入大西洋，不需要为了苏伊士运河做优化，扩大甲板长度到500米以上应该能够对航空运作提供更多优势

[@Foquro]

Why is the audio quality so much worse than usual?

[@EurasiaNaval]

Sorry, had to record this one my phone.

[@Foquro]

@EurasiaNaval ah ok, I was just wondering

[@netrunner9631]

@EurasiaNaval Strongly supporting your analysis of the black plane/mock up most likely being the Shenyang "J-50". There is one more thing: did you make any thoughts about the EM catapult seemingly being mounted far off the centerline towards portside on the type 076? would it mean, it would be able to accommodate take-offs of larger navalized aircrafts, which the J-50 and KJ-600 likely to be? On the smaller yellow "plane" on the sat image: it looks like a wooden mock up to me. Agree with you on less significance of this topic at least for now. Greetings

[@iossysm]

The yellow plane looks to me to be a upside down J-50 ..

[@syncmaster915n]

A friend of a friend sent me this bulletin issued by the People's Republic of China's PLAAF, dated Jan XX, 2025: We at PLAAF would like to extend our sincere gratitude to the world for giving our 2 6th-generation stealth aircrafts, J-36 and J-50, which were debuted to the public on the 26th of December, 2024, the 131st birthday of our great founder of the Republic, Comrade Mao Zedong, their free advertisements over the past few weeks. It is assumed that the United States' Pentagon has now taken notice the appearances of these 2 aircrafts and that they will do their own due diligence on the matter. PLAAF will focus on performing more tests with these aircrafts, developing new stealth doctrines/strategies, and training of personnel. Specs n Stats of the aircrafts will be released in due course. Have a nice and safe Chinese New Year Holidays!

[@kennydude7971]

Still waiting for a neclear powered aircraft carrier. Or a carrier that can travel 50 miles offshore.

[@DorJinTan]

2030 will be a wild year.

[@欧阳敏敏]

More weapons will be announced in 2029, which marks the 80th anniversary of China's founding. If it were the 100th anniversary of China's founding in 2049, it would be even crazier

[@chooyoonsang8958]

Shenyang is pronounce shen young, a is pronounced ah not ay please

[@Hellfox777]

How about actually fixing the 003 first.

[@andrean2247]

003 is on schedule

[@Flightman453]

There's nothing to "fix". Keep coping though.

[@Wvk5zc]

whats there to fix, cowboy? do reply me

[@kennydude7971]

​@@Wvk5zcThe electric catapult still doesn't work.

[@Wvk5zc]

@@kennydude7971 and how do you know that?

[@misterbig9025]

When will it sail to Taiwan?

[@masiethespiral]

Not much need to opinions are slowly shifting towards China. Also if war does break out China would just need to blockade them for a month or two and they would completely run dry of military supplies without a single troop stepping foot

[@kennydude7971]

As soon as it can travel that far.

[@HappyPandaBear73]

👍🏼🇨🇳❗️

[@badassmarauder1980]

It can be the white emperor six gen fighter!

[@ralphricher1125]

None, the white emperor is just an aerospace plane of "Nan Tian Men" plan.

[@Wvk5zc]

i hope not. white emperor is ugly af

[@伤-e1j]

@@ralphricher1125没错，白帝是漫画里的

[@henrykum-nr7bw]

Two clips taken by China netizens ,China is testing engine explosive power kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWK5poRjpbumqqs

[@pooyasafaei2538]

2nd here 😂 Nono, first!

[@HistoricalMyths-j6m]

China is nothing against 6 ft tall fair skinned Jatts of Punjab . Soon Punjabi Jatts will rule Europe and North America .

[@LiesTerminator4]

Build some toilets first lol

[@chingtuckmeng1122]

with repungent odor

[@Iamabot4708]

And questionable ethics

[@erwin5760]

Ugly @ss indi@ts

[@aj93953]

💗🇨🇳🇷🇺🇮🇷💗

[@yuxiangdu9228]

oky doky

[@mikewang7955]

Engine test for 7th stealth fighter in China has completed and America better pulls out of Asia before they are destroyed totally.

[@伤-e1j]

不至于😮

[@earnienew]

2nd here😉

[@shengzhong2662]

没有，不是，别瞎说

[@HailAzathoth]

Top kek

[@sergeikorolev922]

扬基哈哈哈

[@christopherqchin4319]

Boring! Talk too much with still picture

[@ksanghue5340]

Your life boring is your own responsibility, not others. Since you write your comment here, I thought you know and have seen it. Oh yeah, Americans are living in the world of denial.

[@556m4]

That thing has zero 6th Gen capabilities. It’s literally just sheet metal shaped how USA was thinking about making one of its 6th gen prototypes. China you need to do better.

[@danielmartin7838]

Like I've said before, this could be a double-edged sword. The last time a peer developed an aircraft that intimidated the United States, the U.S. fielded the F-15 in response, a fighter with a combat record of 104-0

[@imgr5143]

That was amerika then. the amerika of today is a crumbling empire. They failed with the dumbwalt destroyer, the LCS, the f35 (barely operational), and NGAD. Amerika today is a failure.

[@taiwanstillisntacountry]

Taliban :😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@taiwanstillisntacountry]

Hollywood movies?

[@laowantongchau]

The US is welcome to field the F15s as many as it wants.....again.

[@chingtuckmeng1122]

right USA fielding PPT and brain fart now

[@Johnmk24]

I seriously doubt their Gen 5 J-20 as a serious competitor. Why? Problems plague Chinese Gen 4 fighters. Engine issues & more. Partner Pakistan on JF-17, cannot keep a functional amount flying. J-20 has Russian engines.

[@Lcr34]

All reported by Indian media. J-20 has moved to own engines many many many years ago.

[@YSKWatch]

the OP comment is based on obsolete knowledge.

[@vzy3680]

🤣👆🤡

[@PlaYer-sn5or]

J20 intercepted F35 & F22 before.

[@t_w_7821]

if you are interested in military, get yourself updated. based on your comment your information is like 10 years behind.

[@antisemitis-antifasistas]

χα!χα!χα!