China's DF-17 'Carrier Killer': Nightmare For Anti-Missile Defence

China's DF-17 is an anti-ship ballistic missile with an unconventional warhead - a hypersonic glide vehicle. Is this weapon a game-changer against anti-ballistic missile defences?
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Keywords: Chinese Navy, PLA Navy, Rocket Force, PLARF, modern warships, A2AD, anti-access, area denial, defence, cruise missiles

[@johnbodman4504]

As usual this subject was well researched and presented. It is good to see that the worlds biggest warmonger, will be brought up short in attacking China.

[@ulikemyname6744]

Very ironic considering you are defending a nation that literally threatens with war almost all their neighbors.

[@johnbodman4504]

@@ulikemyname6744 It is Russia who saved Syria from American paid terrorists and also from Israel. Ukraine threatened Russia with NATO weapons, but Russia moved first.

[@ulikemyname6744]

@@johnbodman4504 Oh yeah Russia saves the government that use chemical weapons against their own people including children. Oh yeah yeah Ukraine threatens Russia with NATO weapons even tho Ukraine access to NATO membership in respect to Russia.

[@johnbodman4504]

@@ulikemyname6744 If you had ever done any research, you would know that Syria did not use chemical weapons against anybody. Check the work of Aaron Mate of the Grayzone, he exposed the chemical attack, for the false flag it was.

[@johnbodman4504]

Go back to 2014 in Ukraine when they started to kill ethnic Russians, up to 14000 Russians died at the hands of the Nazi Ukrainians, over an eight year period. Russia is acting in self defense. If you check the last eight years in Ukraine, you will learn why Russia invaded.

[@oberstleutnant787]

Not only DF17, China now has developed a simliar gliding function but much longer ranch DF27 which can hit US continent.

[@goldenbasher1852]

Really? Then why china is so afraid of attacking us?

[@miguellines5907]

Not even DF-21D and DF-26 can be surely intercepted by US defense system as confessed by US Pacific commander. While DF-17 is a mixed between ballistic and cruise missile then DF-21D and DF-26 are super-maneuvering terminal phase missile (change its direction at terminal phase which unusual in western missile technology but it's part of Russian invention like Kinzhal).

[@willwozniak2826]

Nobody knows.....until its proven in combat....The Americans are catching up quite nicely because of this threat.

[@miguellines5907]

@@willwozniak2826 As well as US Tomahawk, minuteman, trident, THAAD, SM-3, GMD. Do all of them proven in combat scenario?? Or have the F-35 and F-22 proven in combat against peer to peer opponent??

[@miguellines5907]

@@willwozniak2826 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@_Wai_Wai_]

@@miguellines5907 all those weapons were tested on small, 3rd rate militaries such as Iraq, Syria and Serbia.

[@mysygisun3335]

兄、明らかに成った事があると思います。 ロシアのウクライナへの、ツェルコン極超音速可変弾道Mの使用で、目標より500m目標より離れての着弾から、 ロシア・中国の国超音速可変弾道Mは、核弾頭使用を基準とした兵器である事が、確認されたと思います。

[@willeisinga2089]

Focus on Rocket Technology and Missiles is most important. Cheap Mass Production. A Carrier cost 10 Billion Dollars and 10 Years to build. Missiles Production can be 1000 a Day.

[@johnbodman4504]

Missiles and drones, give more value than other weapons.

[@willeisinga2089]

@@johnbodman4504 True as it is.👍

[@JD-dm1uj]

HGVs will mostly require HGV-tier defense systems to counter them, though ultimately, directed energy weapons will be the long term future.

[@JD-dm1uj]

@John Smith That’s rapidly evolving, once they become more sustainable, reliable and powerful, the realms of possibilities will greatly expand. I’m not saying they’ll be independently responsible, they’ll be heavily factored into a complete IADs structure in the coming years.

[@Ilovecruise]

@John Smith heck, laser have entered TW class in lab years ago, for national Defense it is for sure to replace the expensive AA

[@historylover7394]

Directed energy to shoot down large missiles is a SCI FI.😂😂😂

[@Ilovecruise]

@John Smith and that is where space satellite comes into play, the only difficulty is how to embedded such system onto a power, heat restricted platform

[@captainbroady]

@John Smith honestly the tech for lasers hasn't matured yet. in fact, it has been proven that even the strongest lasers today can't engage targets that are too far away, and can't melt missiles fast enough before they hit the ship. the future is there though, but it's going to take decades on the other hand, missiles are more reliable and in some circumstances, way cheaper than lasers. I think, it would be beneficial if the US can find a way to put multiple missiles into a single booster. So after launching the booster at multiple targets, the multiple missiles in the booster separates and can target the incoming missiles independently. (Kinda using MIRV tech in ICBMs for missile defence)

[@LyuChen94]

What Americans envy most is the price of DF17, On the Adaptation of Nuclear Warheads, What I know is that DF26 can carry a 650k ton type535 nuclear warhead with range over 4000km. I guess the size of DF17 maby not can carry type535, that should be single one shadow warhead, Weight not exceeding 200 kg. The explosive yield is 150k to 200k tons

[@goodluck250]

yo xiongdei

[@thenegociater3387]

China can already detect the B21 raider... it is inside the hangar labelled B21 Raider

[@davidmoss2576]

Next to a sign that reads bankrupt

[@thenegociater3387]

@@davidmoss2576 No, bankrupt is Chinese for "NGAD", which is in the next hangar over.

[@thinkingaloud5379]

If the US cannot even defeat the Taliban, they stand no chance fighting the Chinese or Russians ,lol!

[@_Wai_Wai_]

@@thenegociater3387 NGAD?

[@zixinxia194]

stealth vehicles, we are in a new age of stealth designs. Honestly just make decoy vehicles would be sufficient against most threats. I guess some sort of stealth is better than no stealth.

[@namelesswarrior4760]

Once the North Wind(Dongfang) whips up then there is no stopping it!

[@felixsu375]

That's not quite correct. Chinese ASBMs have high maneuverability. The problem wasn't the controls. The problem has always been the targeting. Once China solved the ability to see through the plasma sheath, the warhead now has high maneuverability. It can now see incoming threats and move out of the way. Look up grid fins. Normal fins rip off at high Mach speeds. You can see grid find on SpaceX reusable rockets. This makes it almost impossible for current technology to intercept. The closing speed is around Mach 30. With the high processing speed, it can be programmed to move at the right moment. This gives the ABM no time to correct itself thus resulting in a miss. And there is no way to correct this problem. As it is a time and physics problem. In order to fix this problem, the ABM would have to be moving much faster than the incoming missile to intercept properly. It would also require sensors at speeds that we don't have today. The reason is the warhead can move in any direction. Whereas the ABM must move at the warhead.

[@Doomguy05816]

As long as this problem isn’t solved Chinese ASBM’s will never be a major threat to the USN. Thank god for plasma.

[@EurasiaNaval]

Thanks, Felix. I won't challenge you on the maneuvrability of the Chinese ASBMs, and happy to take your reasoning for it. On the targetting issue of hypersonic weapons, my understanding is that it depends on the altitude and the speed of the hypersonic weapon. Specifically, at a low hypersonic speed of Mach 5, the radar seeker can work if the weapon dives on the target from a high altitude. At a relatively low speed and where air is thin, the plasma sheath does not become a problem. For example, the Russian Kh-15, a Mach 5 AShM from the 1980s made high-altitude dives on the target from 40,000 metre - so it is feasible. While the speed of the DF-ZF HGV is unknown, most sources believe Mach 5-10. So it is possible that the HGV slows down to Mach 5 as it descends into thicker air, permitting guidance, although it may not be perfect. That is just my guess, based on past examples of an active-guided weapon functioning at similar speeds. There are reports of Chinese scientists making breakthroughs in radio communications through plasma blackouts - so they are working on the problem! Anyway, that's all from me

[@miguellines5907]

@@EurasiaNaval No need too many opinion guys, just read at the US Space force who supervises the Chinese testing on its DF-17 in 8 occasions with the last is on 2019 and read the conclusion. I mean it's really impossible that you guys were clever than the US Space force personnels and officers.

[@hresvelgr7193]

There absolutely is a way to correct that problem. It's called hit the ASBM with a laser, such as HELIOS

[@europeanandamericanidiot8716]

中国最近宣布，已经解决了黑障问题

[@nirvana3921]

To be precise, the DF-17 is a medium-range ballistic missile. It could not only attack the aircraft carrier fleet, but also turn the Japanese archipelago into a wasteland full of radioactive materials.🚀🗾💥🍄☢️

[@ferdnandowang2688]

Japanese in going to make the ocean full of radioactive materials,and they really doing it ,Japan wants to discharge all the waste water from the Fukushima nuclear power plant accident into the Pacific Ocean, and Japan can spend money to dispose of it. The British, American and Western media keep silent about this matter, and concentrate on disrupting Europe's harvest of wealth and preparing for war in Asia . What a high ground for human rights

[@sweatybotfn9982]

2:35 the pintagon 😂😂😂

[@skanthaadsigns]

We hope to see many carriers rejuvenate the sea corals

[@craigwolfe2221]

Very good.

[@csh.c]

China's DF is Mark 10 while USA patriot is only mark3. Is is like turtle trying to intercept a rabbit. It will take about 24 DF to sink the entire USA battle group. In time of conflict any USA ships within the the 1st and 2nd island chains ate as good as commiting suicide.

[@randybaumery5090]

Then USA long range bombers launch dozens of radar invisible cruise missiles and bye bye Chinese mainland. Hahahaha

[@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle]

But it's not a nightmare for defense missiles (which don't exist yet) that are made for Glide vehicle interception something that Raytheon is currently working on. They claim they'll have it ready by 2025 but I have doubts on that.

[@davidmoss2576]

The US does not have a history of building good air defense.

[@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle]

@@davidmoss2576 History on past weapons doesn't matter if the future provides evident performance.

[@davidmoss2576]

@@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle Sounds like copium to me. Technology follows a linear path. The S175 success leads to other successive upgrades. The Chinese knows this and took the path and based their HQ systems on the S300. At this point one can argue it is a much better version of it but without the S300 there would be no HQ derivatives. Saying the US will build an awesome air defense judging on past results leaves me doubtful. If you want to saw we will build the next badass fighters, yes I can agree with you there.

[@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle]

@@davidmoss2576 No, it's not. Copium. It's just a fact. I mean China is the best example for this. China was nothing 30 years ago in terms of diverse military weaponry at a large scale. Now they are at the same level of the United States. If I was coping, I wouldn't have said things in my original comment like "which don't exist yet". Sounds like you're just trying to accuse me of something that I'm not being so that you can instigate conflict and I'm not here for that.

[@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle]

@John Smith Not only direct energy. They're trying to develop sM6 missiles that can supposedly take down HGVs. I'm thinking it may take down one or two, but if this technology works, I don't think United States naval fleet really has any chance of winning any naval battle.

[@inclusion9212]

They never see the eagle coming. New toys debut at every war.

[@raymondtay3532]

Well done China. 💪💪👍👍👏👏💯💯❤❤

[@danielwong2333]

Super China to be reckoned with

[@Omar_BananaToxin1701]

ok so this is an idea that I always think about but Im not sure how its supposed to work...Sideways drifting ability of an offense missile can be very difficult to deal with by the defence missile...because the one going downwards (SS offence missile) is being assisted BY gravity when the one going upwards (AA defence missile) is strugling to resist gravity and losing acceleration and mobility the higher it gets...I searched many types of surface missiles and cruise missiles and it doesn't look like there is any of them that use sideways drifting to evade AA systems

[@FahrurRoziqin]

Can i give another youtube link video that explain how hard US to intercept hypersonic missile?

[@abyyy490]

Please sir, do it.

[@hohi3684]

yes

[@raymondtay3532]

Well done China developed most advancef powerful DF-17 Hypersonic missiles. ❤💪💪👏👏👍👍💯💯❤❤

[@magnaviator]

Apparently, the Houthis hit the Ike with a scud.

[@yoongzy]

Let's hope that nothing ever explodes

[@sjv9147s]

Russia's version of the same is the Zircon. USA has no equivalent.

[@thorax9997]

the pentagon was aware of it in 2014 and what did they do? increased there 'inclusiveness' capability....they did not start to produce there own weapons until they where caught with their pants down

[@TL-fe9si]

What about the communication barrier of a hypersonic glide vehicle? How did they bypass that?

[@pietskiet42-_]

😂😂I don't think anyone will blurt out your answer any time soon!?😊😊😊

[@Marryatau]

because light is faster, no matter how fast, think of a soliton. Electromagnetic field bandwidth, past 5G possibly even 6G. Communication is made by light, everything else is sound.

[@europeanandamericanidiot8716]

中国已经解决了通信问题，前几天刚宣布

[@peterfawdon6142]

Closely followed br Britain !

[@GoldenKhanate06]

👍👍👍

[@americanknow8232]

Without carriers, teh US navy is nothing, endless they want to exchange nuke missile. Even that, Chian can shoot down conventional ICBM at 100% accuracy. Pentagon score is 50-50 when a missile is coming from N. Korea.

[@TheKeithvidz]

chain has a whole raft of ASBMs - from SRBM ground launched to air launched long range. American's war intentions are driving china - its weapons are overkill for a taiwan scenario on its lonesome.

[@RouGeZH]

5:02 "smile or you will be shot!"

[@pashapasovski5860]

US spent billions on research and still don't have a maneuverability in hypersonic missiles, yet China got it in the first try,in my opinion, given the blueprint by Russia!

[@tingyang-rw4wb]

At present, China is in the absolute lead in the field of missile technology, and the gap between the United States and China is 6 to 10 years

[@pashapasovski5860]

@tingyang-rw4wb undoubtedly, my point is that they got a head start from Russia that literally pioneered Asymmetric warfare systems based on hypersonic missiles, however China has industrial capabilities that nobody can even imagine !

[@wellswells9545]

​@@pashapasovski5860 CHINA ❤ RUSIA

[@CuriousPersonUSA]

I wonder about the ability of the kill chain to accurately hit moving targets. A US aircraft carrier can move at around a 1 km per minute during evasive maneuvers.

[@potatoman6770]

Launch a hundred of them

[@davidmoss2576]

You realize JDAMs dropped from B52 can hit moving ships right?

[@CuriousPersonUSA]

@@potatoman6770 I just did the math. in 5 mins an aircraft carrier can be anywhere in a circle that is 750 times its surface area. in 10 minutes that ratio goes to 3000. So unless they know exactly where the target is that approach is probably useless.

[@CuriousPersonUSA]

@@davidmoss2576 Obviously! dropping a JDAMs on someones head is not the same as firing at a moving target from 2500 km away.

[@biochemwang2421]

The missle has radar on it, which will guide it at the final phase.

[@BenhurBaguio]

Water tanker missiles 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@mdferdoushasan1846]

PAKISTAN ZINDABAD... China ZINDABAD 🇧🇩🤟🇵🇰🤟🇨🇳 🇮🇳🖕🤣

[@FloofyMinari]

The more maneuverability, the lower the speed. The US will figure something out.

[@kaleeysmith8801]

ya why not figure something out called making friends around the world instead of enemies? that's a real tough one i know...

[@charlieshore-hollingworth7707]

Yay I’m early - looking forward to this one mate - gotta say though, I think it would be so easy for NATO to counter

[@davidmoss2576]

With what exactly?

[@charlieshore-hollingworth7707]

@@davidmoss2576 The US’s carriers, escorts and jets have incredible sensors, countermeasures, jammers and interceptors. I’m sure the tech alone could either destroy of these or cause it to miss. Even if this isn’t the case, US carriers could just sit out of range, in total safety launching sorties of f35s/18s and refueller aircraft into where they need to be, while US subs (SW/Virginias) can be the ones getting close, unseen, undetected launching devastating strikes on targets. Carriers don’t even need to get close in the first place

[@davidmoss2576]

@@charlieshore-hollingworth7707 The Subs are the only systems we have with the upper hand currently. Those CSG are as good as reefs in an all out war.

[@taiwanstillisntacountry]

The poorest army of the world on flip-flops in Afghanistan says thank you for the army boots. Next time bring more stuff pls.

[@zetareticulan321]

@Charlie Shore-Hollingworth If they start shooting down your refueling tankers, then what?

[@captainbroady]

I think the bigger questions are: How many missiles have been and are planned to be fielded? How effective are they in terms of accuracy and the size of their warheads? How many successful and failed tests have been conducted so far? A high-tech missile entering service is one thing. An over-hyped, ineffective missile that cannot do what it is officially stated to do is another.

[@thomas_jay]

All that money, research and effort spend on the globals arms race is a total waste of resources We should be settling the solar system by now..

[@zetareticulan321]

If not for the US's warmongering, countries won't have to build weapons to defend themselves.

[@DK-gl3ih]

What planet would be colonized?

[@thomas_jay]

@@DK-gl3ih Any within reach and the ability to host life either by artificial biotopes or by terraforming.

[@DK-gl3ih]

@@thomas_jay Humanity isn’t colonizing a planet anytime soon?

[@djtan3313]

Ain’t it right!

[@bestamerica]

' ussr russia did give / help / sell to china use alot of arms weapons... what is china big waste arms weapons for

[@SHIVAsingh-p2p]

Irrelevant question* You come from Taiwan , what's your view on china wanting to capture your Island nation.. Is the reality same as what westerners tell us ,

[@boterlee4934]

Contrary to Western views

[@andyxu1184]

We js believe that taiwan belong to us and some people hate them

[@mackermaldrill2656]

It's just a big egg roll.

[@adrianlankford5765]

I love Chinese propaganda 😂

[@muhammadsyafanurikhsan3969]

Keep copeing my man just keep copeing

[@adrianlankford5765]

No sense in trying to convince fools. China is a weak nation. China has always been a weak nation. Beginning with their century of humiliation until even now. The only people china has been able to defeat is its own😂

[@daniels0376]

​@@muhammadsyafanurikhsan3969Why are you trying to convince your enemies that your allies are strong? Let them bathe in their ignorance.

[@rajibchakroborthy4181]

😄😄😄😄no ballistic missile can target a Mobile target in vast sea stop post propaganda

[@lktan224]

It has been tested against a moving ship in the SCS few months back .

[@mithulmarma2001]

博主应该介绍印度的万国造武器😂

[@ryanhuang3875]

I agree with you. Chinese has far inferior weaponry so there is nothing to worry about 🐶

[@theconcubin3]

India’s Navy is the best!!! Lol…😂😂😂 sink/stink ur enemies to death

[@simonyip5978]

A typical Indian comment, just because India is decades behind China, many Indians try to pretend that China and India are on equal levels, but China is not only 3 times bigger than India, but the average wage in China is $13,000 per year and the average wage in India is $2,300, the Chinese GDP is nearly 20 trillion dollars per year, Indian GDP is $2.4 trillion dollars per year. India is light years behind China, its undeniable.

[@mosescyrussolomon-wo6pu]

Reading the comments, I can tell that this is a platform for American haters. Nevertheless, i can only say to those beating the drums of war to “ fuck around, and find out “

[@佳偶]

垃圾美国佬，朝鲜战争你们赢不了，现在就更加不可能赢取战争，也就欺负一下小国，哈哈😂

[@wuhutroy8267]

American hater ?🤣 this is youtube man, here is china hater , genius . go home and get some pot . 🤣🤣🤣

[@StereoSpace]

The problem with China is they always imagine the weapons going in one direction, out from them.

[@vincentdesun]

Because they have something US wants badly but have idea how to create?

[@StereoSpace]

@@vincentdesun Tyranny?

[@ulikemyname6744]

@@vincentdesun Don't want to pop your bubble but the US have succesfully tested severl hypersonic missiles and they are currently ahead of the pack.

[@davidmoss2576]

@@ulikemyname6744 how delusional are you

[@ulikemyname6744]

@@davidmoss2576 Well considering by comment is based on facts I'm not the delusional one here buddy. Check yourself maybe 😘

[@vincent77295]

LONG LIVE MAO LONG LIVE XI

[@lukefirst407]

+500 social credit! seriously hwo much does china pay you

[@thetreekeeper143]

I think it's all American companies like KZbin paying him. He's also probably got sponsorship with Ratheon, Northrop Grumman, Boeing paying him under the table. American companies don't have social credit, they have financial credit rating and since he's being paid huge bucks, he's probably got a great financial credit score.

[@Madpett]

There is no something call social credit in China. You fool.