China's Space Ambitions Could Change Space Forever

[@austinl960]

The phrase "昨日你对我爱答不理，今日我叫你高攀不起" can be translated as: "Yesterday, you ignored me and barely responded to my love; today, I am beyond your reach." It conveys a sense of turning the tables, where someone who was once overlooked has now achieved a position of unattainable success or prominence.

[@nfergistink110]

eh

[@daisycool]

The funny thing is when the US talks about China's space project, it always makes it 'space race', actually China is not racing against any nations, China is just going in its own pace, step by step, to achieve its own goals. To collaborate with China in space projects and technologies, the US needs to put down the 'competition' or 'race' in their mind, otherwise it's gonna always be about 'national security' kinda stuff.

[@DrMackSplackem]

There's a bit more to it than that, though. China is an amazing country in so many respects, but it is one with serious human rights challenges from the perspective of Western cultural sensibilities, both in terms of its own citizens' welfare and those of other nations in regions the Chinese hegemony wishes to and feels destined to control. With no internal will to "improve" in these arenas, any incentives in that direction must be imposed externally with whatever leverage is available, both diplomatically and militarily. For obvious reasons, diplomacy is the weighted preference, but this requires a value coveted by the other party which you possess and they don't. Once given away, you no longer have that leverage, so it's not to be squandered, not given away lightly in exchange for mere promises devoid of action. IRT terms used to describe the current situation, this is not so much a race as it is a clash of two mutually exclusive visions of the future. The US currently has an advantage in technological innovation, a virtue not exactly nurtured by an honor culture in which avoiding the shame of possible failure prevails over entrepreneurial risk-taking (especially when bankruptcy of any new venture is actively and severely punished by the regime). What the Chinese do have which the West comparatively lacks is a very long time horizon in which they plan their future. Slow and steady has been a winning strategy. They are accomplishing milestones at a measured pace, slowly gaining ground while the US's human spaceflight goals have languished. Plans change from administration to administration, with no singular vision or the leadership to commit to one compelling enough to override default congressional mandates of job security for regional constituents (as seen with SLS/Constellation/Artemis, etc). Minus clear leadership and incentives, "business as usual" has prevailed, with only LEO for astronauts to aspire to. Apart from the revolution in reuseable launch systems we are living through, perhaps the best thing to happen to shake things up stateside would be a 'Sputnik-level threat", and what better country than China to provide it?

[@celxoirealyx]

​@@DrMackSplackem I agree. The US healthcare and welfare are the best in the world. The entire history of US hegemony has been peaceful. We never meddled in any war or take innocent lives. Our people are also the smartest in the world. 🥰

[@potatonoodlebear8035]

That is just Americans think. As if the whole world is merely a reflection of their own greatness.

[@heatherrhodge2588]

@@celxoirealyx we never meddled in any war or taken any innocent lives?! Are you honestly talking about the same USA? our healthcare system is also a joke! It's all about quantity over quality, driven by money hungry pharmaceutical companies. There ARE some programs that attempt to be helpful, but there's always some sort of corruption, even in them. I'm an American also BTW.

[@plaguedoctor_139]

They don't even trust each other.

[@FSAPOJake]

China and the US being in a space race to the moon means we're gonna see some extremely cool stuff over the next decade.

[@peterpl2105]

Or doom. Who knows.

[@metroidragon]

Space-based Organ harvesting is gonna be the boom market of the 2040s

[@SirHefferlot581]

waste of huge amounts of resources. u can send 20 rovers who can operate for decades and do science OR 1 human for a day or two - for the same resources. its such a waste. moonrace was never really about science, but about politics and "FIRST!"

[@Jabba1625]

​@@SirHefferlot581 I believe the USA has spent something like $22 trillion just on war since the early 2000's. And can you tell me what is a bigger waste of money please?

[@DaleBladez]

Not to mention it now is about resources and what comes with resources, war. We do have a no arms treaty in place to stop countries from weaponizing space but we will see how long that lasts. Russia already made weapons for space and well the documents on performance weren’t declassified. They did set up a base but possibly never sent people there. Or they did but they didn’t make it back home. Those documents weren’t declassified either.

[@plessis2023]

U.S. space programs are plagued by political and public unwillingness to do hard things like Kennedy said in 1960's.

[@21palica]

I would say it is more plagued by spending all of it's R&D money on weapons.

[@marcelo55869]

That's where the term enshitification comes from. Corporations are more worried about quarter performance than long term investment.

[@kangirigungi]

The big problem is overspending. SLS is a money eater, not a viable space transportation technology.

[@dirtbird7415]

Yes I agree , but then again I beleive there is also a been there done that sort of attitude. Let's face it , there is really nothing out there we need. As far as furthering knowledge goes , I think money is better spent on things like Webb , which in my opinion has returned a treasure and continues to do so.

[@doylelawrence2473]

I agree with you!

[@obiseankenobi2056]

gauging success by the amount of money spent instead of the results is the most american thing ever

[@Alice-si8uz]

I mean have China relanded rockets like the US/US companies have?

[@MarWeyog]

@@Alice-si8uz yes. they have. Recently

[@Yutani_Crayven]

Right, the US wastes immense amount of money with little to show for it if it weren't for unicorn companies like SpaceX that are not representative of what most US spaceflight spending is centered on. The only results that the US got were under Kennedy, and Apollo had an even more immense budget associated with it. China is playing catch-up and it is doing so fast, for much less money.

[@Gandalf22476]

​@@MarWeyog name the rockets then.

[@ReynaMirez]

ok, give me the list of chinese accomplishments in space (or really just technology in general) compared to the west. China is a fυcking shiτhole bro

[@user-sj9sk9mt3z]

China is ambitious and very enterprising. I feel so happy for them and wish and hope for the Chinese people every success. Very impressive progression

[@kekedong]

Suddenly?I am sorry, the chinese moon programme is going on for nearly 20 years , and the space ship programme even longer,

[@felicytatomaszewska]

Western world that thinks that it has some sort of monopoly over science and technology and tries utmost to stop other nations from get ahead of it, is poised for a very rude awakening. US trying its utmost to keep China or any other non-white nation from developing & competing with it but the more US tries the sooner China develops because it makes them to be more self reliant and grow technologies at home and hence get better deeper understanding and get past USA.

[@darkarsar1365]

Really interested in understanding how China's "cutting corners" on safety. China's space launches seems very successful from my recollection.

[@thekaxmax]

Step one: only report succeses.

[@jessicayoung1190]

@@thekaxmax Do you have the link to their failure .

[@bolu7971]

作为太空探索的后来者，自然会学习到美苏太空开拓者的很多经验，过于激进，或者进入太空竞赛，会带来灾难，我们是比较保守的。20年前我们第一个宇航员进入太空

[@tiaoyi-bx5yi]

@@thekaxmax Report? China broadcasts every space launch live on television and in the media. BBC journalists can watch rocket launches live.

[@PhoonBucgeneMY]

​@@thekaxmax step 2: everything is a conspiracy

[@chewkaevin]

The United States can’t even play by internationals rules and laws here on earth , do you seriously expect the US to play by , if there’s one for space ?

[@owellorge1868]

The United States are the rules. We live on planet America so get over it.

[@Targe0]

Historically, it has been the US that was setting those rules around space.

[@diegochen6961]

@@Targe0 In fact, the United States doesn't even follow the rules of the Earth. It led the creation of the United Nations, but its ally, Israel, is going on a rampage to break the rules of the United Nations, and the United States has been condoning them.

[@greentea5471]

​@@Targe0historically it's been the USA war mongering killing innocent civilians and children...and now they are part of history forever as participating in Genocide and stealing land called Palestine

[@waynepascoe3309]

Absolutely NOT !!!!!!!!!!°

[@TimeToStartOver]

NASA afraid of China stealing technology? Soon NASA will be stealing Chinese technology. 😅

[@SongEthan-n6i]

LOL

[@myintmaunmaun]

US has copied the Soviet space program to send people into space as well as build a space station.

[@rogerphelps9939]

Not really. Most Chinese stuff is not cutting edge, just derivative although well execued. Well behind in chip manufactture.

[@TarisRedwing]

Why would NASA steal from China if everything China has is already stolen and known by NASA in the first place 🤣

[@jessicayoung1190]

@@rogerphelps9939 Keep thinking like this US will go far . lol

[@Retronyx]

8:28 correction: The US would never took off to space without the need of GERMAN SCIENTIST they forced them to collab with the NASA

[@michaelp772]

Those German scientists were praying to be captured by the Americans. The alternative was to go to Russia.

[@bbartky]

You’re correct but this is true of the Soviet Union as well. While the US got top scientists like von Braun the Soviets got many scientists plus nearly all the engineers and nearly of the V2 and related hardware. US, Russian, Chinese, European, etc. all the show DNA of German rocketry. For example, Scott Manley has a good video and how the rocket engines on the Soyuz booster, which is still being used now, are extremely similar to the engines on the V2.

[@cyphrsphyr]

Currently; Russian technology in spacex and other start up company rockets

[@GizzyDillespee]

Well, that German scientist only ever knew ANYthing because Gleepgloorp and HIS LITTLE GREEN MEN were lederhosen afficianados.

[@atom1236]

and where did you get your sources for that? they were recruited voluntaliry as the allies advance toward germany and were given amnesty for their work in the case that they were affilliated with you know who. besides both side does this, so does it even matter? as truman said, "this has to be done and was done."

[@Robert-n5t9v]

The press tells you day and night about the starvation made by Mao. Forgetting totally the starvation made by the British empire that killed 100 million people in India and all over the world. All these Imperial wars made Britain very rich and the British people loving its Queen and King so much that they could afford to have unarmed city police man.

[@jay23cr]

15:01 US $73.2 billion, China $14.5 billion But China is so much more cost effective that we would need to know if those $14.5 billion buy you just as much or more than the US's space budget can buy in the USA and Europe, which are overpriced and over rated!

[@tluangasailo3663]

the same applies for India and China space budget, India with way less budget achieve the same stuffs with much lower cost but does it make india ahead of china

[@jay23cr]

India should settle border disputes with its neighbors ASAP and stop cuddling upto Western ballsacks... India needs to have some dignity for ONCE! Millions of Indians were starved to death by Churchill during WWII to feed British troops in Europe! They forgot so quickly!

[@paulrobert2249]

We have pockets to grease at every step

[@owellorge1868]

they use child slaves

[@jay23cr]

@@tluangasailo3663 India has tons of cheap laborers but does not have the supply chains or materials production or technology that are present in China... They'd have to import everything from China, which will just take away the savings in labor costs and make the whole operation more ineffective and costly! Let alone the quality of labor. Apple tried it and got burned.

[@georgeschnakenberg7808]

"Let me kmow what you think" I thoroughly emjoy your ACTUAL middle of the road take. This and other episodes have been perfectly done. The exact opposite of propaganda, that weve sadly been accustomed to.

[@MadHeart-rw9xh]

100% same. I was honestly expecting the typical kind of fearmongering about what the so-called "communist party" did or would do, so getting a straightforward, fact-focused reporting of the history and current events was really refreshing.

[@robadubbdubb]

Disagree, the video commentary oozes with pro China perspective

[@nicolethomas7443]

I think so too​@@robadubbdubb

[@TheKobiDror]

Space exploration shouldn't be a competition but a cooperation. But humanity, ie their leadership, is too selfish to work together for the greater good of all of us.

[@skycloud4802]

There should be a global space agency where every nation puts money and tech into the project for the benefit of all

[@Yutani_Crayven]

That's right -- it will remain like that at the very least until we've established ourselves in space. A perspective shift is needed. And in the meanwhile, you have to deal with the world as it is, not as you'd like it to be. And in that world, technological competition drives us to greater heights than cooperation.

[@myintmaunmaun]

Starting from US banning China from the International Space Station?

[@cool_things_collection]

@@skycloud4802 China is always open to cooperation. It has proposed exchanging moon samples with the US, but the US refused. According to US regulations, NASA cannot cooperate with Chinese entities. The US government has implemented lots of rules targeting China, such as 10043, which bans most PhD students and researchers from top Chinese universities in the STEM fields from receiving US visas. Before 2020, nearly half of the STEM PhD students in US universities were Chinese, but now top Chinese students prefer to stay in their own country. Additionally, China is the only country in the world with its own space station because Western countries like the United States prohibit Chinese nationals from entering their "international" space station.

[@alexzeng]

When China lags behind: banned from the International Space Station; Wolf Clause When China leads: should cooperate. How hypocritical do you have to be?

[@cubearthx]

I would have been so nice to see this as humanity (as a whole) making it's first steps into space colonization rather than a rivalry.

[@MercyAlwyz23]

That is a dream I have. That we can all become one people and explore instead of fighting each other to explore.

[@shauncarlson7822]

Rivarly and conflict has always been the prime motivation.

[@cokomairena]

If we could do that we wouldn’t have destroyed our planet to begin with 😅

[@jasonneugebauer5310]

Competition is the true path to innovation and results.

[@cubearthx]

I understand that history and competition often drive innovation, but we must question whether this path will lead us to the stars or result in our own destruction. It’s also a reminder of the unshakable evolutionary baggage we carry. Only time will reveal where this leads us. I remain optimistic but our current trajectory raises some concerns.

[@ayuttaya.ambient]

Thank you for not hyper-politicizing China in a Sinophobic way. The universe loaned us our earth and it will take it back.

[@rotten7493]

Communism, covid, microplastics, ethnic cleansing, air pollution, rampant ip theft, involuntary organ harvesting, exploitation of poor nations through the belt and road initiative, human rights violations, disregard for international law, disregard for international Court rulings, continuous violation of the sovereignty of its weaker neighbors, cyber crime, constant interference in foreign elections, a steady stream of outwardly aimed propaganda, currency and global market manipulation....these are just a few things china has been involved in , in just the last 20 years. It is justifiable in every sense to distrust and dislike the cop. They have no defense.

[@AgnotologyTV]

I have to ask, given the time frames covered, what do you consider anti-SEA? Or more about anti-west Taiwan?

[@awbeanzz]

I loved this! I wanna know what every country is doing in the world of astronomy and cosmology. In the end, we're all on this blue marble together ❤

[@helenstudio5468]

Some are busy. Getting more wives, others are busy oppressing themselves

[@mykol68]

we need to start being able trust each other

[@AstroCloudGenerator]

China’s dominance in most fields is practically an inevitability, given the size of their population and access to resources. There will come a time when isolating them from shared western technologies simply becomes counterproductive and results in western self isolation. Given the West’s reliance on commerce, self isolation isn’t likely to last long.

[@ajaykumarsingh702]

Also picking up a fight for no good reason is not a good thing in the long term. USA is doing exactly that. China was banned from international space programme. But they didn't whined, but worked on it for themselves. Now they are the most advanced and resourceful in this field and no country can dictate what to do.

[@zlnno]

If your theory is right, india will dominant the world, not china. India not only have people more than china, western countries are not banning tech from india like that they did in china

[@AstroCloudGenerator]

@ You might be right. But I don’t think that India has China’s resources and historically India has not been very good at making the most of its home grown talent. Many of whom are held back by its cast system. But hopefully that can change, it’s a great nation.

[@amandaofhouserobinson6707]

Thankyou, thats the most ive ever heard about chinas space involvement.

[@Matt-zb1hf]

Always love when an Astrum vid drops!!

[@kairon156]

I like it. I would love to hear more about the Europe and other groups/nations who are doing space stuff.

[@Greippi10]

They do occasionally do those too! About a month ago a video on JAXA's SLIM Lunar mission, and some time earlier this year there was one about the ESA x JAXA Mercury mission BepiColombo. The thing is though, there isn't a whole lot else there to talk about. These space agencies operate at a much smaller scale, and mostly do smaller satellites for Earth observation or telescopes. JAXA did do a recent launch on the H3 rocket, but it was simply a military communications satellite. Even the first flight of the new Ariane 6 rocket feels a little bittersweet what with how outdated it feels right away compared to the Falcon 9 and soon New Glenn.

[@rajahua6268]

I wish every success to China space endeavours and all the others in the world. They are hopefully doing it for the humanity🙏

[@perfectionbox]

Hey if you've seen how crazy things are getting on Earth, you'd be very interested in the Moon too

[@seditt5146]

They are the ones making things crazy here....

[@RHflooringRYAN]

Video doesn’t elaborate on anything as to why China is “ suddenly “ interested in the moon. Great job.

[@后宫后]

Ten trillion dollars market

[@scarm_rune]

@@后宫后 stop releasing hydrogen atoms on the streets man

[@yaldabaoth2]

Sounds like a 20 minute propaganda piece.

[@jason8077]

Which means it was sudden at all rather gradual increase in effort

[@Jason75913]

clickbait title, clickbait wording

[@astrumspace]

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[@t16205]

Who is fighting? More like friendly competition

[@svenhoek]

You should re-check your data about China's economy. I am reading the exact opposite of what you claim.

[@FieryWACO]

Don't know if you noticed, but the U.S. Intelligence Agencies are having a current credibility problem, with all the mal-information that they've been putting out the last decade or two.

[@mason96575]

I love you, Alex 🤗 🥺

[@guldorak]

Super interesting to hear more about how well China is performing in the space arena. I'm staunchly pro-American, and I know China is our most realistic long-term rival. Unfortunately, I only know surface-level information about China's capabilities and achievements, and would love to learn more. Please make more!

[@我的爱好]

This video proves the efforts made by Chinese people for technological progress!

[@jianchaohu1057]

中国从月球拿回了月土壤，美国祈求中国给他，中国说，你2011年制订了法律禁止和中国太空合作，打脸。😂

[@pakjai5532]

Neil Armstrong: Sorry, I forgot to bring souvenirs. Nihao ArmSoLong: Don't worry, I got it [offers moon soil].

[@ShaneZhao-u4d]

underrated comment

[@mason96575]

Here we see the ‘dog whistle’ being used in its most common setting. Notice the time and effort spent creating that dog whistle.

[@JJr-ce3vv]

Cool 😎👍

[@mason96575]

@ you liked your own comment.

[@zubinix]

Let the China paranoia continue…

[@Mr.johninjax]

Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you.

[@zubinix]

@@Mr.johninjaxLol. The very definition.

[@NovaDeb]

Good job. This is very interesting.

[@TchisauMuendo]

That feeling when a new astrum video drops😊

[@Enteropy23]

That feeling when knee surgery tomorrow😏

[@Markaras]

Wrong emoji. 😊 ✅ 😏 ❌

[@TchisauMuendo]

@@Markaras let me fix that real quick

[@Enteropy23]

yt really removed my knee surgery comment

[@billycarr7446]

@@Enteropy23 YT will censor all sorts of harmless comments.

[@3MoonCyber]

I'm Chinese. I think there's a high possibility that we won't have to wait until 2045. As early as between 2035 and 2040, China's overall scale of aerospace and its space transportation capacity could be on a par with that of the United States.

[@juriteller3688]

People desperately need to underestimate china, at least it seems like it.

[@王尚全]

Thanks for everything

[@damonroberts7372]

Anyone who's read Heinlein's "The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress" knows that whoever controls the Moon is also capable of making a truly terrifying kinetic weapon even more destructive than the biggest nukes.

[@murdelabop]

True. But I think Ben Bova's Moonwar is a more realistic scenario.

[@anzov1n]

Because nukes are somehow lacking in terrifying destructive power? These kinetic weapons would add little to the overall strategic equation.

[@damonroberts7372]

@@anzov1n For starters, the yield of the warhead you would need to vaporize an incoming house-sized chunk of Moon rock would be orders of magnitude larger than that of your typical anti-missile missile. It would _definitely_ alter the strategic equation.

[@anzov1n]

@@damonroberts7372 In some ways it may be harder to intercept (in other ways potentially easier) a big extra-orbital object but, even currently, there is no reliable way to intercept ICBMs at scale. Introducing yet another way to deliver destruction is completely unnecessary and doesn't alter the strategic equation in a meaningful way. For a sci-fi concept its definitely plausible and interesting, no argument there.

[@damonroberts7372]

@@anzov1n So you say. Deflecting a rogue rock from the asteroid belt is one thing (and even then we only have "proof of concept"). Deflecting one intentionally propelled from the lunar surface is quite another. I know that such a scenario is likely decades from being technically feasible... but let me be clear... I know what the PRC is doing right now in the Asia-Pacific, and in Antarctica, and I _do not_ trust their ambitions, down here on Earth, or in space. The US in particular would be foolish to dismiss the possibility.

[@auntvesuvi3872]

Thanks, Alex! 🌕

[@isaacgloc1542]

A Chinese restaurant for the aliens lol

[@yuranisbismelly2830]

Those aliens won't find it funny after all the humans has hatred towards each other they'd be disgust

[@1203120377]

Like you mentioned, its difficult to find information about China's exploits in space, so this is very interesting indeed. With China's growing economic power and by far the biggest producer of STEM research I am sure there is a lot of interesting things they are doing. It's a real shame there isn't more collaboration around space.........just imagine pooling all the earths top minds to achieve an acceleration in space technology! Great episode.

[@nicholaidajuan865]

I appreciate hearing about advances in space technology, science, and exploration irrespective of the nation funding it. 95% of the world does not live in the USA, but a majority of the content on youtube is about NASA with occasional reference to ESA. Please produce more content like this covering the wider space community

[@fischer0762]

I wonder why the majority of content on KZbin is about NASA? It’s almost like they’ve had the majority of successful space missions or something…weird 😂

[@Kununu900]

​@@fischer0762Spaceflight is about cooperation. There is no true 100% murican space mission. Stop your American inferiority complex

[@lightlegion_]

Continue being amazing, you can do it!

[@dwdei8815]

The prospect of space and science uniting us - Chinese, American, European, Russian, Egyptian... is deeply enticing - as much as the prospect of space and science dividing us is appalling.

[@AaronBlox-h2t]

haha.....The Egyptians have not completed any global projects for 3000 years, freind.

[@adder88]

However, Americans cannot show their heroism without setting up a big villain.

[@少康战情妇]

美国不会让任何盟友独立掌握太空技术，因为宇宙是美国人的，任何试图发展这一技术的国家都是对美国的敌对行为。

[@lorranlxcrrer1158]

why do u put egypt, egypt no nothing about space project

[@chabgcaiGUO]

Putting resources into the space program is a wise choice to benefit the people of the world

[@少康战情妇]

并不会造福世界，只会造福一小部分国家，没有掌握太空技术的国家只能试验性的开采外太空资源，太空竞赛是对未来国家生存空间进行的投资😢假如你相信了美国的宣传，太空属于全人类那你和你的国家就注定失败了

[@miguel5785]

I wish we could all cooperate in space exploration but above all in nature restoration and global warming mitigation.

[@xGaLoSx]

Global warming is far from the existential threat the far left makes it out to be. The world will adapt to the change just as it always has. There's been far more extreme heating and cooling periods and life goes on just as it always has.

[@myintmaunmaun]

China is promoting the development of green energy, while US is doing the opposite

[@thekaxmax]

And space research is vital to both, now and in the future

[@alexzeng]

When China lags behind: banned from the International Space Station; Wolf Clause When China leads: should cooperate. How hypocritical do you have to be?

[@andracoz]

Really good video.

[@jansenart0]

Colonizing Mars is a fool's game. Colonizing the moon will produce technologies and metamaterials that will help farm asteroids.

[@QuantumlyImmortal]

We definitely need a solid and stable permanent site on the moon first. Missions to the rest of the solar system are a lot cheaper and efficient if they start and finish on the moon.

[@peskybear1432]

Mars is the only viable gateway to the asteroid belt, too much fuel needed from Earth and would not be enough left for a return, much less delta V needed to get out of Mars gravity well.

[@kellscorner1130]

I would be helpful as “truck stop” for missions to the Jovian moons.

[@myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070]

Eventually creating a space base or something of the likes on mars would be great to get to places like moons on jupiter/saturn

[@MrMichaelFire]

Only an actual "Fool" makes such statements.

[@d.b.cooper1]

Fair play on what was a great balanced video. It's a shame that the KZbin algorithm doesn't like it

[@_andrewvia]

"Red Moon" (2018 Orbit), by Kim Stanley Robinson, is a good novel that explores the politics of establishing bases on the moon.

[@_andrewvia]

The US budget for space includes profit for shareholders of various companies. China's efforts are operated by their government much more, eliminating so many middlemen. The actual product created by the US budget is not that much more than that of China.

[@robertanderson5092]

Or the 2020 movie Space Force

[@sof5858]

Well.done 👏🏻

[@jaytaylor629]

Go China Go! Go China Go!

[@TetrahydrocannabissaurusRex]

Very, very cool video! It was great learning about other space programs! Personally, I would like to see an international agreement that all operations outside of low Earth orbit to be considered as missions of humanity, rather than nationalistic.

[@luofubo]

not many scientist in the comment section

[@SirHefferlot581]

too many commentists in the science section

[@yuugenr7549]

​@@SirHefferlot581lol

[@yuugenr7549]

Well according to the information we have, China will surpass everyone in space tech like they have surpassed others.

[@yuugenr7549]

I'll just have to copy and paste my comment. Chinese astronauts are called "Yuhangyuan" it means travellers of the universe. Taikonaut was the name given by the west.

[@kenshin198406]

Thanks for making this informative video, it was fascinating. Extra thank you for making it as non political as possible, considering the climate surrounding it these days.

[@kennethd.9436]

Great video! Intriguing analysis. I hope we can become a unified team moving out into space and building a new place for us to live and thrive. The show Space Force was hilarious.

[@mickwatts5230]

Hi Alex just wondering when your book will be arriving , I ordered it quite a while ago and was hoping it would arrive before Christmas as it is a present for my grandson. Kind regards Mick w

[@TheTamriel]

Doubt that the Chinese think to be in a space race.

[@mbennettideaengcom]

This is a really tough question, I don’t know, but thank you for posing/posting the question. I’d hope we could agree on minimal specs to allow for mutual search and rescue

[@LS69420]

the USSR was the first to land rovers on Mars, but they were inoperable. so that would make China the third country to land rovers on Mars.

[@rogerphelps9939]

Come on. The Russian effort was satic and they have been going backwards ever since. The US landed rovers on Mars almost 30 years ago,

[@leonglh8456]

​​@@rogerphelps9939yup!30yrs later youass can't even bring back the astronauts from the space station

[@MongoosePreservationSociety]

Excellent video!!!!!

[@imulippo5245]

- For the humanity-based right to be able to grow weed without government violently stopping it.

[@ViVeriVniversvmVivusVici]

You have my vote

[@gladlawson61]

Ok says the drug addict.

[@fouchi3203]

Imagine some Moonrock produced on the Moon 😂

[@n8doggy733]

yup, I am so glad I get to just walk into a dispensary and get what I need AND the state getd a ton of tax dollars! win win bro, win win ❤

[@ledarbyromeo9667]

​@@fouchi3203Moon dust

[@christianbarraza2899]

This was great

[@Jake1702]

14:50 NO! The best outcome is absolutely NOT stopping the competition. The last time we focused everything on 'cooperation' in space, we did managed to get a single space station, but then we had nearly 20 years of utter industry stagnation likely driven by some amount of malice. DO NOT LET THAT HAPPEN AGAIN!

[@chrismaxwell1624]

Getting to moon is 60s was just political stunt. It was so insanely expensive that had little future purpose. What it really did is spur technology on Earth. Now it's far cheaper. The real drive that will cause the drive is what they find on Mars and the Moon.

[@TheScottbb1]

A lot of that has to do with the Cold War ending but it’s clear there is a new Cold War so I wouldn’t worry about lack of funds as much. We just need politicians to feel threatened again… any day now.

[@craigbryan6980]

Competition results in accomplishments. Cooperation results in committees... Without competition, NASA has been sitting back on its laurels. It's nice to see a new contender to humanity's exploration of the universe.

[@marcelo55869]

@@Jake1702 competition is only needed because politicians do nlt value science unless they fear of missing out. It is a flaw of the political system to need an incentive based on insecurity and fear. Funding should be persistent regardless of competition and political landscape.

[@AdRock]

It’s not competition when the Chinese tech is just stolen from USA.

[@davidsmiottawa]

Loved your video from the tv show Space Force

[@mrdarklight]

They hope to find the blueprints for Apollo.

[@yuugenr7549]

I have to update you guys. Chinese astronauts are called "Yuhangyuan" it means travellers of the universe. Taikonaut was the name given by the west.

[@MongoosePreservationSociety]

Humanity should come before country

[@myintmaunmaun]

US should leave middle east along

[@tiagdvideo]

Excellent and neutral analysis

[@arifmahmud828]

yheee, new astrum video

[@mason96575]

Lmao I love that you used the Space Pirate scene from Space Force 😂

[@mason96575]

Omg Alex this video is so amazing! Your content is ALWAYS phenomenal- but I REALLY love this one, it’s so interesting!! Admittedly, my US-centric knowledge of other country’s space programs is very, VERY limited (even though I actively look up space developments, etc. and have a massive love of it!)

[@spencerarno5565]

Ad Astra keep going

[@RussTillling]

The US Space Force gets more money than NASA. That would be an interesting subject, if there is any information in the public domain.

[@bbartky]

This. I don’t think most Americans know this.

[@TarisRedwing]

Literally a new made up Branch of the US military already has a bigger budget then NASA...damn thats sad.

[@kenwatkins9385]

Great work.

[@bocbinsgames6745]

Congratulations Astrum, you've committed the cardinal sin of making a slightly too positive video on China

[@christeyensanders4362]

I would not be surprised, whatever problems there might be in China they have such programs under control. I live in Beijing and there has been mad change here. Think the hunger games and the capital in comparison to the districts. You saying the capital couldn’t achieve anything?

[@raihanrusli2720]

His pager is about to expl0de

[@aA-yl1fc]

Lol, he's already seen what happened when John Cena upset China😒 You want to prevent your video from being demonetized, don't insult China😉

[@waxeggoil3130]

Yes it's great he hasn't been sucked into the usual anti chinese racism.

[@MrBoomer-k6v]

Great video❤

[@ronaldburks504]

It’s true if you are only considering NASA. However comercial space companies around the world are quickly becoming very powerful. Space X is in my opinion quickly becoming a leader in space development. Government ran programs have way too much waste, and lack of vision moving forward.

[@TheRealDuckofDeath]

That's not the true picture though. Yes, SpaceX is becoming the biggest revenue generator, but they're not doing his to explore space. SpaceX is a corporation, needing more income than expenses to exist. So, they monetise low-orbit transports. That is big business today. For the really expensive bits, only state funded programs will work, as these are guaranteed to lose billions, or even a trillion, like the old space race. Without NASA SpaceX wouldn't have anything.

[@georgesos]

leader in exploding rockets and not even reaching orbit...😂😂

[@michael195b]

We need to stop fighting over the small stuff and start to work together as humanity for the better of all no matter the country.

[@ErnestRobinson-v1f]

Competition and co-operation are both key elements of biological evolution and are built into the human genome. In the same way, balance between democratic, often wasteful entrepreneurship and central economic co-ordination produce more effective progress overall. Having two major players with different approaches, funding and philosophies directed towards space exploration and extraterrestrial settlement is optimal. Thank you for expanding my knowledge of the Chinese programmes way beyond what I previously knew.

[@akira5026]

Collaboration, even outside of the political domain, is essential in the exploration of not only what we dint understand on our tiny blue planet but whats beyond. If we are to ever expand humanity it will need collaboration from all nations. Not just the US and China. Each nation brings its own unique ideas and perspectives and its own level of intellect and due diligence.

[@huggybear441]

And let's not forget China is the sole owner of their Space Station. While America is just a tenant of ISS among the five nations. MOON exploration is just the beginning.

[@rogerphelps9939]

Don't be daft. 90% of the ISS is US origin.

[@AKNeal81]

Sid Meier's Civilization: Beyond Earth IRL

[@bobdobs23]

All behind space X

[@jackoneill28]

Yes, the one company is going to save the west.

[@choco_polus]

One other thing that has caught my interest from CSA proposals is the _Shensuo_ programme, their "answer" to the Voyagers, apparently two probes set to explore the "nose" and "tail" of the heliosphere

[@purpleicewitch6349]

This could have done without the propaganda, and it's the US that has been known to cut corners on safety (though whether China does too or not I can't speak to). The Challenger disaster is perhaps the most famous example, where engineers told them not to launch but the bosses wouldn't listen.

[@daledenstedt6369]

Both would benefit emencely from co/op on specific goals as a team just like the video is saying Thank you guys good video 👍 👍 👍

[@jason8077]

It is interesting to see the US choose to isolate itself while China proposed collaboration

[@Jiyuu69]

China proposes collabs on almost everything, only to steal tech and info..

[@danheidel]

That's an overstatement. The US has a ton of collaborations with most of the world. It's a shame we aren't collaborating with China but the CCP repeatedly showed that it uses collaboration to steal technology to a level that very few other countries do so we refused to work with them. (I am aware that countries steal tech from each other all the time but China's industrial espionage was at a level that was really unprecedented in modern times) We're seeing a new cold war forming between authoritarian governments and globalist/free trade countries and this space race is going to largely be between the two most powerful actors in both blocs. I do wish that it were practical for the US and China to work together on space exploration. China has a surprisingly good space program. (Along with the Indians, another country I wish we were doing more collaboration with)

[@ajjiang-xm2sz]

@@danheidel MAGA😁

[@MrFF432]

Lol. That’s just Astrum’s spin on it. Which is weird, because it’s factually inaccurate. The U.S. collaborates scientifically with many nations, on earth, and in space. It just won’t be with China, because they’re thieves.

[@TarisRedwing]

@@danheidel And they dont care and would do it every single time to our faces. Better to stop letting them steal everything and just put a china stamp on it like they always do. Which is why China will NEVER lead in space because they have to steal everything first and you cant be first if you rely on stealing the tech to keep up.

[@humboldtoregonian9400]

Long live the Terran Empire! I think the Enterprise series really puts the battle of political ideologies into perspective.

[@BaconSniffer578]

Absolutely love it, get it done china

[@HobbykochKai]

I like your diplomatic point of view

[@Pbav8tor]

Due respect to China's space program, the Chandrya team from India blew me away.

[@golum1425]

Space really is the final frontier, the first to astroid mining will have a ridiculous advantage over every other country. Hopefully that will be the start of global resource sharing and not further resource ransom

[@karlwilliams6227]

I literally watched Mr President endorse the digital market, making it central of the economy. An upgrade from $95,000.00 every 6weeks wouldn't be a bad look. Good times ahead I see and a period to become part of this trend

[@RafaAlvarez-t8m]

We prayed for times like this and God answered 😊

[@BrendaHughes00]

I don't see the corelation to what this channel is about, but this is a very smart move from Mr President 👏👏👏👏

[@Maryandit]

I'm all about what's best for my family. How do you get so much?

[@Maryandit]

I'm genuinely curious to know how you earn that much in six weeks

[@rubendavids]

What is this about please?

[@Notmyself303]

If we can not find unity on the ground, we don't yet deserve the stars

[@yunghoene8753]

That "China" in the first minute should be a cut to Trump saying it. Please edit the video accordingly, thank you.

[@danieltam3923]

A lingering problem NASA has yet resolved is whether the far side of the Moon is always dark or not. Nearly 25% of its budgets is spent on this one dilemma.

[@gregmarsters2434]

A dystopian nation becoming dominant in space development and colonization sounds equally frightening and unlikely. One factor in off world success is going to be willingness to sacrifice lives and environment. China has a big advantage there. However the need to decentralize skill and innovation for a frontier colony to succeed I just don't see.

[@waxeggoil3130]

The usa already is a dystopian nation so there would be no change there.

[@theviniso]

As someone who isn't American or Chinese, the thought of either of these nations becoming dominant in space colonization scares me equally.

[@wedmunds]

So your argument is "Chinese people can't innovate?"

[@Seeker7172]

The US isn't a dystopian nation? 😂

[@gregmarsters2434]

@@Seeker7172 US has nothing on China. China chases the "shining path"

[@loadmastergod1961]

When are the books shipping? Ordered one for myself and one for my niece

[@jokerace8227]

I actually prefer to see China make firsts in space exploration, it means there's a new, determined competitor on this small field of players, which should help rekindle our own competitive spirit in the Space Exploration Department.

[@AB_123_AB]

Slow and steady always wins the race.