Chinese EVs’ Shocking Truth: Lifespan Only Four-Five Years! Intentional

[@benyomovod6904]

So the total cost of ownership over 8 years is above Korean, Japanese or German cars. Buying cheap equals buying twice

[@bobby5678-ck2tc]

They have been doing that to everything they make it always breaks apart so fast that buying them over and over ends up costing more than when we would make them in the west it was a higher cost but the quality was vastly superior so you could keep the things for a lifetime.

[@Apoc5k]

Same goes for their military technology, countries that bought items thinking they were getting a good deal became unsatisfied with the quality and performance.

[@noahpalladino]

Amen! Big point for most EV's chinese or not, is the max state of charge programming. These EV packs last MUCH longer if you only charge to 80%. Not even Tesla has this. The BMW i3 is the only model I know of that has this feature which will allow the battery to last 2-3x longer if properly maintained. You'd never know either as the i3 charges to 100% but it's actually only 80%

[@AHFAN11]

if you convert 100k yuan to usd its around 14k, with the cheapest electric vehicle I could find in 1 google search is 29k usd. they cost half the price they would in the us so it's no surprise they only last half as long lol.

[@christinaapplesauce2459]

Much worse, at the end of 8 years the myriad of companies that producted the chinese EV will evaporate. You will have no parts, no service . Meanwhile, the european, japanese and koreans companies will still be there.

[@vincecarlo]

I am Keeping my 24 Yr Old Honda Accord with 380k km on the clock Still runs Perfect

[@fullycharged9241]

My Honda accord is a 2.2ctdi 2007 with a 150450 miles and the runs great. I live in Scotland so the weather as got to body work . However when I go out in the old Honda I now she's bringing me home.

[@PeterNebelung]

My brother bought a new Civic back in the 70s. He put over half a million kilometers on it before the engine died. I owned several of them at one point in the 80s, and loved them.

[@dekoldrick]

Got a almost 30 year old Honda Accord with almost 400,000 miles on it. I just need to rebuild the motor and it'll probably go another 200,000 miles.

[@rommelcorbito808]

@@vincecarlo 1 million miles is just a break in period for honda accord 😎

[@mirec3951]

20years old honda HRV and 23years old honda s2000. Both over 300k km and still running strong! Im keeping them as long as i can get insurance on them

[@patrickt49]

Toyota and Honda for life.

[@ogremgtow990]

Volvo

[@NTJedi]

Dodge Ram Trucks are my choice Anyone not driving trucks realize its a mistake after their 1st major accident. possibly having costed the loss of a limb or two for using a car

[@davidyoung2111]

I LOVE TOYOTAS! I owned 3, had over 350,000 miles on them & still running strong!

[@linkfreeman1998]

@@NTJedi Yeah, have fun saving your own life while taking others with that truck bud.

[@GF-mf7ml]

Honda L15B hell no.

[@tanpengjoo7205]

Chinese can replicate design but cannot quality standard

[@warrior3614]

It's not about quality EV tech is shit no matter where you look.

[@N20Joe]

@@warrior3614 Nah Tesla has it down pretty well. Even in the video, the chinese turds mowed down the kids but the tesla stopped every time. Of course, Elon could have not spawned a bunch of chinese knockoff competitors if he just didn't build a factory in china, but them's the breaks.

[@googleusers]

true

[@kamsunleong6648]

Firstly you should improve your English before commenting. Secondly you must always question whatever comes out from this channel. Never accept blindly. If they are not capable of making an ev of acceptable quality , why are their evs dominating in so many markets around the world? Why are the EU and US so worried about Chinese evs coming into their markets. They had to rush to impose high tariffs to protect their own auto industry from getting demolished. Both needed tariffs because they know their competitor has a better and cheaper product than theirs.

[@googleusers]

@@kamsunleong6648 check all ev after 4 years, battery = dead.

[@greengooflight]

it's called planned obsolescence

[@Waverlyduli]

Except in this case the obsolescence timeline isn't viable for the consumer.

[@robinbrown8963]

But accelerates by being Crynese made.

[@TheJase8566]

Nope. China is the land of facades and shortcuts, it’s just poor quality

[@stoicapetruliviu8840]

Even that they got wrong😂

[@Akispark]

Cute you'd think they would get all steps required right to plan and execute this. No, this was simply deliberate cost cutting negligence on everyone's part who had any say on the production of these mobile caskets

[@RacerX888]

There are fundamental rules in electronics. If something is battery powered, it is not considered an "electrical" item, as its not plugged into a power source to operate. And battery powered anything that cannot have the batteries changed easily by the owner, is a disposable product. Any electronics engineer and they will tell you that.

[@keegan773]

And the moral of the story is “Don’t buy cheap Chinese junk”.

[@diuran1919]

Don't buy any EVs Cars.

[@Predator_elite]

​@@diuran1919 nope cheap chinese stuff

[@kennethkong5484]

Everybody buys except USA, we love the Haval Great Wall

[@HenryRCIC]

You are using Chinese made junks. Can't avoid it.. it's everywhere inside everything

[@1972dsrai]

“Made in China” once exported are now “Warning: made in China”.

[@B70657Kitty]

Made in China standard...by now, I am surprised people still got hooked.

[@kamsunleong6648]

Di sone thinking and don't be naive. There's a reason why EU and US had to rush to impose high tariffs on Chinese evs. They know that's the only way to protect their own from better built and more affordable Chinese imports. They can't compete without trade barriers. Simple as that.

[@proud_emmerian6510]

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[@89five3five]

The device you used to post this was made in China.

[@fonzworthbently885]

"what do you think this is ? the US national deficit??" is the best clap back from china I have heard thus yet!

[@betterlife7609]

yeah, this is too funny

[@r.l.8170]

It's because they don't know the true national deficit of China. Once they hear the real numbers, which the CCP would never disclose, you'll be like OMFG!!!

[@stage6fan475]

I laughed when I heard that! It probably mean Chinese state approved propaganda emphasizes US debt while not mentioning a ballooning debt problem in China, including the cost of vast ghost cities.

[@momwithaplan1287]

While I did to laugh at this. BUT then I couldn’t stop laughing cuz Chyna’s rate of debt is actually 3x higher than the US is. And at a much, much shorter time frame too. So it’s even funnier that he was making fun of the US, but his own reality doesn’t even realize that he is heading to the abyss super quickly. 😂😂😂😂 Fun times!

[@fonzworthbently885]

@@momwithaplan1287 right the nerve of this bastard to make good jokes while broke xp. The bonds that tie us together bring us together in laughter

[@EvanFAF]

Japanese goods used to be low quality as well but they improved because the companies and the government could be held to account. I don't see the same transformation taking place here.

[@brianchu3317]

Not gonna happen as long as the CCP and current culture stand. Even if change comes it’s going to take a generation or two to change the culture.

[@haz3004]

Japanese put their heart and soul into their work, Chinese just cut corners as much as possible and produce disposable products. It's the difference in culture

[@AlexSomers-d2n]

This is everything people said about Japanese stuff in the 1950s. China's design and engineering are improving fast enough that when reliability becomes a point of prestige, it will probably become a higher priority.

[@haz3004]

@@AlexSomers-d2n read my above comment.. their culture prevents innovation and promotes cheap counterfeiting. It won't go the same way as Japanese, not the same at all

[@AlexSomers-d2n]

@@haz3004 That's what everybody said about Chinese electronic audio equipment 10 and 5 years ago. Now their DACs/Headphone amps/and recently even a couple of amplifiers are the top measuring products on ASR...These $500 Chinese DACs completely outperform $10000 DACs by "reputable" legacy brands. Japan made a reputation for itself in audio electronics in the 1970s, then 10 or 15 years later took over the compact car market. Chinese business culture is a little different. The higher ups in Chinese companies are young engineers, not marketers or bean counters or MBAs. They are easily reached and consulted for technical decisions. And the companies iterate and improve suprisingly fast. The only time the West has improved at this pace was during WW2, and 1990s computers, but China is doing this across the board.

[@Waverlyduli]

Imagine the phenomenal amount of coal fired power used to manufacture these useless rapidly disposable Chinese vehicles? There's nothing "new energy" about such junk. What a pathetic pitch.

[@DDAA-bi3mb]

More than 50% energy in China is renewable now.

[@georgepeters3344]

​@@DDAA-bi3mb Incorrect. In 2023, China relied on fossil fuels for 65% of its electricity.

[@hellomf2256]

​@@DDAA-bi3mb😂

[@gronz]

you seem to have 0 knowledge about China. dont let the media make you crazy.

[@rogerphelps9939]

Wrong. Coal is now being rapidly supplanted by renewables in China. Anyway you clearly have not researched the environmental impacts of manufacture and use of both EVs and ICEs. EVs will win out over ICEs, which use pretty much the same amount of energy to make, after around 10,000 miles.

[@ogremgtow990]

I will keep my 20 year old Volvo thank you.

[@lobsterbisque7567]

ogremgtow990 Amen to that! Someone I know still drives an '82 240 wagon regularly. And He's a doctor!😆😆😆 I scored an '06 corolla for cheap a few months back. Low mileage, Manual Transmission. I do all the maintenance on it myself. I love that little car, so I'm going to drive it for as long as I can.

[@thatguyoverthere8355]

2001 Toyota solera, 2003 Ford exp sport

[@dave3657]

99 Toyota Sienna and 97 Chevy 1500 WT

[@ogremgtow990]

@@lobsterbisque7567 I had a 79 244DL with 1.1 million miles on it just breaking the factory alternator . I almost cried when I had to junk the car during cash for clunkers because I couldn't get a replacement fuel pump housing .

[@KitKitChanIsaac]

Sadly not everyone knows the truth. My dad will be getting rid of his 2012 Volkswagen for a Zeekr. Like, bro. Imagine thinking that Chinese tofu dreg is better than German engineering. That's the Little Pink mindset that has corrupted his brain. To rebel, I'm getting something American and V8 powered.

[@JeffreySoucie]

Welcome to vehicle ownership. The bottomless hole for your money.

[@michaelnurse9089]

Tesla trying to move away from the model with Cybercab. Personally, I can't wait. 29 years of vehicle ownership has been mostly pain for me.

[@robertanton1862]

wrong statement should've said: Welcome to MODERN DIGITAL vehicle ownership. The bottomless hole for your money.

[@markperry5975]

So my 15 year old Ford Mondeo is still going strong, you would need to produce 4 to 5 Chinese cars to do the same job, replacing them every 5 years. How is that good for the environment?

[@davefish8107]

From what I understand that car is made in China now as well

[@steampunkster2023]

BYD and MG are here in the Philippines, and their quality is questionable. I urge Filipinos not to buy these ladyboy vehicles and opt for a Korean or Japanese, kei cars (fuel based like Mitsubishi Delica Mini) if possible so that there will be less congestion on our roads.

[@GerbenWulff]

Nobody is buying EVs here anyway. I have never seen any here in the province. Only people in NCR buy them. Only e-bikes and trikes sell well outside NCR and those last even shorter than the EVs. These EVs are worse for the climate than traditional gas powered cars.

[@steampunkster2023]

@@GerbenWulff Yes, ebikes are much better with EV tech, and to add, EV vehicles has an awful short range, and powering up the battery overnight for it is impractical.

[@KALKAL_ISYU]

byd ecars are known to combuste spontaneously

[@jobturkey7418]

The fact that Phillipinos buy anything Chinese is quite shameful

[@steampunkster2023]

@@jobturkey7418 that's a bit of an unfair statement. Reason that we don't buy goods from America or Europe is that the consumer has to shoulder the logistics fee that is included in the price of the item, making it expensive. Chinese goods on the other hand are cheaper because they're nearer, but quality is unassuring. So it's not shameful, they forced us _under duress_ to buy their stuff, and most of us don't have any choice. Most of us aren't elites who buys from places like BGC or Makati.

[@briandstephmoore4910]

They want to make them just like phones replaceable but cry about the environment in the same breath there actual clowns

[@erebostd]

Just don’t buy a Chinese vehicle. The Mitsubishi iMiev of my neighbor is 14 years old, and it still runs great. It basically charges completely by solar from the roof…

[@burnmedina]

No proper disposal, this country has the highest environmental concern

[@duly8338]

even my phone last longer than that

[@GizzyDillespee]

My car is a 23 year old gas vehicle, and it's still going strong. But they try to tell me that manufacturing 3 or 4 additional EVs during that time (which is the usual EV buying schedule), and running them on coal and gas charged batteries, is better for the environment, somehow. It's a scam. Since they don't report the environmental costs of manufacturing an electric vehicle, and they don't consider the source of the electricity, then they can claim that EVs are better for the environment. But only focusing on vehicle emissions is lying by omission.

[@GizzyDillespee]

My car only has 370000 km, so admittedly I haven't driven it as much per year as others might... but now let's see an EV last for half that long, either in years OR km. And no, I haven't replaced the motor or tranny. Just regular maintenance. The 4wd still works. It's great.

[@JAM661]

Yea I remember in the 80's after the energy crisis cars got a lot better milages today. For example why do I need a car that goes 130 mph when the speed limit is 70 mph. But China is producing more emission then all developed countries combined. The only time a EV make sense is if it is a second car you commute and can charge at home. But what a pain trying to take a trip to MT or SD.

[@kirkjohnson6638]

My newer car is 27 years old and in nearly new condition even though I have never garaged it. I'm finishing up the refurbishment of my older car which is 45 years old and has been in my possession for 35 years. I'm 62 and have only owned one other car besides those two. I'm pretty sure that I'll be able to keep them both on the road for as long as I am still able to drive (provided no parts wear out that cannot be replaced or repaired).

[@nickreid5297]

To be fair, not all EVs are made this badly. Teslas (and others) with modern batteries should be good for many years. I wouldn't, however, buy a new one at the moment, because I think batteries will be much better in three or four years' time. (And because it is environmentally better to keep running my 2002 Mazda MX5 for as long as possible.)

[@robertanton1862]

what idiot wants to drive a normal car (Petrol or Diesel) with a grenade under his/her seat? "don't worry, the safety pin is ON" "yeah, but at any point in time during driving, the grenade could move around and the safety pin could get caught in something and get pulled out" "no don't worry, it won't happen" "besides, this is a device that will help you save £££billions in fuel and maintenance costs"

[@TomSutherland210]

So a battery is comparable in cost to an engine? Now you know how every Land Rover owner ever felt.

[@BenhurBaguio]

Battery is the biggest cost of EVs ,replacing is as good as buying a new EV😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ladislavzima8382]

Akhtually no. You can replace only the bad cells. And a new battery is getting cheaper every year. "Tesla replacement battery cost ranges from $5,000 to $20,000." told me Google. YOu have to choose a car brand, which doesn't tell you the battery is more expensive than car+battery ;-)

[@r.l.8170]

@@ladislavzima8382 Lol. He's probably looking at them Chinese EV brands. Their EV might cost lower than the battery itself...

[@ladislavzima8382]

@@r.l.8170 Well, e.g. Hyundai and VW here in Europe are not better.

[@r.l.8170]

@@ladislavzima8382 Dunno about some of those fools. But I got myself 2 Tesla. One last year, 1 this year, and one more maybe end of year or early next year. It puts to shame my Porsche which was my last ICE. ICE NO MORE. It's slow... Wish Porsche makes EV that is faster and doesn't require launch mode...

[@ZammZammanZamma]

​@@r.l.8170Its SLOW is better for ur life..too fast will shorten ur life quickly😂😂,just think how fast is fast?? Too fast means u can even blink ur eye,1 second is too slow and u cant even react wisely in emergency,can u name 1 EV with a milion miles on it?? Thats the point mate

[@ebx100]

I just graduated engineering school when I watched a Texas Instruments (they used to make many integrated circuits) seminar about using integrated circuits, now simply called "chips", in an automotive environment. The extreme temperatures required full military temperature range chips. Consumer grade chips, as this video rightly pointed out, simply are designed for benign environments, and will fail when subjected to the harsh automotive environment. Any manufacturer using consumer grade chips in an automobile is selling ticking time bombs.

[@jyan21]

Chinese-made vehicles are just crap. Doesn't matter if they're gas or EVs.

[@jyan21]

@@michaelfreeland2791 LOL I might be older than you. I've owned cars from American, European, Japanese, and Electric cars (Teslas). While there are good and bad cars made from everywhere, overall Chinese car quality is just crap. Oh, and I forgot to mention, I'm Chinese also, so I know and please don't assume anything when you don't know anything.

[@michaelfreeland2791]

@@jyan21 Then you should know that electric cars are a dead end. I don't need your resume. We invented the cars and just about everything else. Keep copying us.

[@Kulutuk-bn4yc]

🤣🤣🤣 Naaaaaaahh..... How can all these chroma key compositing videos, with its dubious contents, and an irrelevant footages, get to have you believe it true??. 🤣🤣🤣 It seems you all are just usefull idiots who don’t screw on your head to think and reason since your brains are in the assholes.! 🤣🤣🤣

[@Hanking-Warry]

How about the petrol ones?

[@nuttietrendchannel4265]

Ford CEO said in a press conference before making the Mustang EV that EV car will only last 3 to 4 years.

[@NetflixForeign]

What is so gross about this is imagine all the eWaste. Not saying it is good for phones to be eWaste but this is so much more material. Ugh.

[@lobsterbisque7567]

NetflixForeign That is so true! Yrs ago when the EV hype was much higher, all the fanboys(incl. media & governments) wouldn't dare speak about the inevitible waste from the batteries used in EVs. Plus the methods used to mine the cobalt, & lithium needed to make these batteries is sickening. Esp. when child slaves are being sent into radioactive mines to mine cobalt in the congo makes me sick to my stomach!

[@NetflixForeign]

@@lobsterbisque7567 I wasn't even necessarily just thinking about the battery but that we are talking about an entire frame, engine and all that basically thrown away too, that is a LOT.

[@NguyenNguyen-rk1qx]

​@@NetflixForeignNhững thứ đó có thể tái chế lại !

[@hermitpurple3]

【The reason why Japanese products gained reliability in the 30 years from the 1950s to the 1980s, while Chinese products became high-tech in the 30 years from the 1990s to the 2020s, but remain unreliable.】 Japanese society is a craftsman society. They are stubborn, value tradition, and are slow to change. But once they understand the value of change, they quickly reflect its essence. Japanese people, who believe that the purpose of economic activity is the pursuit of happiness, create cars that can be used for 25 years. Chinese society is a merchant society. Focus on profit over quality and reliability. Monopolizing the market maximizes profits. Politics becomes hegemonic. The Chinese, whose purpose in economic activity is the pursuit of profits, produce cars that break down in five years and earn profits five times than Japanese.

[@GerbenWulff]

The Japanese strategy was to make better cars than the Americans for the same or a lower price. Most Chinese companies focus on lower price (although there are a few companies that do try to make quality products). Now China has developed a reputation for itself that they sell cheap products, but with poor quality. The Chinese have been quite creative in finding ways to cut cost, although often at the expense of reliability, safety or other quality aspects. The sad thing is that these Chinese companies are not even profitable. They survive on subsidies and cheap loans and in order to keep raking in those subsidies, they have to expand their production. They keep growing until their government runs out of money to support them.

[@hermitpurple3]

​@@GerbenWulff Japanese cars and Chinese cars have different motives, so the countermeasures are also different. The CCP's national policy of Chinese cars seeking to monopolize the EV market by using low prices as a weapon can be resolved politically. On the other hand, the reason Japanese cars sell well even if they are expensive is their resale value. The reason why the reliability of Japanese cars has not declined even after 30 years of recession is due to the stubborn spirit of the craftsmanship, where consumers and engineers do not tolerate a decline in quality even when managers' incomes and stock dividends are reduced. . In this case, I think corporate acquisition is a countermeasure. Battery manufacturer BYD acquired a Japanese mold manufacturer and entered EV production, but they do not understand cars and are not fully utilizing it. GM and Ford could make better use of it.

[@Waverlyduli]

@@hermitpurple3 Let me sum it up in one word for you: pride. Japanese are renown for taking pride in what they do: which means attention to detail and high standards of production from concept to design to execution.They recognise and expect it from one another. Chinese in China don't have that culture. Their standards are low and slipshod by comparison.

[@hermitpurple3]

@@Waverlyduli Consumers value reliability, while manufacturers value consumer needs. For example, Toyota's answer to Japanese consumers who longed for American pickup trucks was the Hilux. The Hilux was a vehicle for the Japanese market that was designed to be parked in narrow Japanese garages. However, it was praised by a foul-mouthed critic on a BBC program, and many terrorists bought it. It seems that Toyota cannot understand why it sells well in the world market. I would mount a machine gun on a Ram, Chevrolet, or Ford pickup truck. The American market, which favors large cars, may be unique.

[@tracyalan7201]

I hope the EV drivers know enough to stay out of flooding conditions in China.

[@King_Georges_Calcified_Elbow]

my 13years ICE hyundai still going strong

[@AlistairArbour-qi3xp]

Same.here ❤❤❤ hyundai i20

[@chrismayer3919]

I hate to be an ‘I told you so’ but… I TOLD YA SO!!! (When will these peeps ever learn?) 🤦

[@AlistairArbour-qi3xp]

Wolf in sheep's clothing it deceives the people 😢

[@philipwong5858]

Made in communist red China cars, what do you expect??? Long lasting??🤣🤣😂😂

[@NTJedi]

TOFU electric cars

[@GF-mf7ml]

It mean extreme cheap used throw away cars.

[@kamsunleong6648]

Of course it is. Why do you think EU and US are running scared. Have to impose high tariffs to protect their own from the Chinese evs. You don't need tariffs if yours are better than theirs. Simple as that.

[@kamsunleong6648]

​@@NTJedi Tofu brain can't think why EU and US are so scarce of Chinese evs. They have to put up a high tariff wall for protection. Without their wall, their auto industry will be demolished by the Chinese.

[@KitKitChanIsaac]

​@@kamsunleong6648Imagine seeing a BYD Seal still driving after 20, 30 years. Oh wait, it won't! It'd be rotting in a junkyard!

[@dbblues.9168]

Yup. They call new cars "energy efficient " yet theyre designed to be thrown away every 4-6 years. My 1994 truck has paid for itself and then some. Over 30 years. The savings of keeping it on the road even though less fuel efficient has saved 4 new trucks being built, which costs infinitely more energy and money.

[@5anjuro]

Meanwhile humble 1990s Toyotas and Hondas are still merrily chugging along like it's nothing. Get one while you still can.

[@robertanton1862]

what country are you in right now? in UK, and EU they slowly banning (by raising taxes higher than the heavens) old polluting cars

[@chinesesparrows]

EVs are advertised as low cost and low maintenance, but the battery degrades more than 15% below inital spec in 4 years and costs more than 30% of total initial car price. Itcha pricey consumable

[@yootoobvyooer]

Which EV are you talking about? Korean EV and Tesla have less than 5% in 5 years, while Nissan leaf (no thermal control) is 20%. Chinese EV don't have thermal controls?

[@dragontail2k6]

Western countries are actively taxing or banning non e-vehicles.

[@chinesesparrows]

​@@yootoobvyooer yes CN EVs batteries use LFPs which perform worse at lower temps and they dont have good thermal system to compensate. Batteries with same KW can differ greatly in longevity.

[@chinesesparrows]

​@@yootoobvyooer "les than 5%" based on what? a Cali resident communiting less than 20 miles a day and range shown on infotainment which already does not show 5~10% buffer for "0% charge" status? Or actually recorded max and sustained power output cross country in diverse climates? It certainly doesnt feel like 5%

[@GF-mf7ml]

As someone who don't give a s about range I'll buy used almost free and drive it work home only, if it last 3 years still worth it, junk it when it fail. I won't drive it with my family.

[@GallAnonim-jx2cz]

Well if these cars would be really that bad, people woudn't buy it. But sales are increasing 20% year by year.

[@elitechampion]

Yeah, this is just a lie as the warranty on Xpeng vehicles is 5 years. So if all those parts really broke down between the 4-5 year mark then she would have them replaced all for free. Also, Xpeng doesn't represent all Chinese EVs. BYD is a much better brand with world class leading technology that Toyota has agreed to copy in all their future hybrids because it's the best of the best.

[@rafaelantoniodiazamador2514]

The bad stats in the video were courtesy of diverse Chinese government ministries themselves. And also they is international data. The Chinese can still push production simply because they have "numbers", that is, millions and millions of people (many times over the population of the rest of the world) that are still uninformed or that may be "patriotic". But eventually, "patriotism" won't push it over if bad quality keeps on going. Like the Soviet Union: goods and services were horrible, no matter if they could steal the raw materials from their oppressed countries.

[@Zuludarkthirty]

I saw on utube the Chinese ev car dealers were actually buying and registering their brand new vehicles to inflate the sales figures The vehicles were then parked in a field out of the way and gathering dust And we are not just talking about a few ev’s , we are talking in the range of 10000 vehicles ! Don’t believe the Chinese govt propaganda machine

[@mikestewart4752]

So “green” of them. 🤦‍♂️

[@2rightsmakeauturn]

why do people insist in calling electric cars new energy vehicles when they've been around since 1820 ?

[@hariranormal5584]

You can't be that dumb. Cars have actually used electricity for a while, the difference is EV cars actually "run & drive" on electricity itself, while anything before used some sorts of engines to actually y'k, produce energy and to move it.

[@beuwolfcarbonilla]

EV is the future... Problems are the manufacturer's fault. Chinese EV makers wanted the money (from Chinese government) than make a reliable product. They want instant money.

[@migsvensurfing6310]

@@hariranormal5584 No. Read history.

[@jonathondoak8915]

So all you need is a hacker! And the car is no longer in your control! Great!

[@fredEVOIX]

learned from an actual salesman off record Manufacturers consider the battery a consumable and non-resellable (for warranty, safety reasons) so day one of your purchase you immediately lose the"battery pack replacement cost" learn those words well and use them along every EV you see to understand the scam EV it's usually 33-66% of the new car price, this is why EV "depreciation" is so great there's another downside to them you need trained validated by the manufacturers mechanics to work on them so all 2nd hand EVs not sold by an official dealership have no maintenance done on them nor warranties once you buy it it's e-waste I learned that by a 2nd hand car seller who explained if he took any EV he would have to sell them "as is" and this is not something he wants to do

[@happo_time]

WE have 3 Tesla cars. The oldest is 9 years old and has 158,000 miles or 254,000 km. Battery is still at 87% of original range and we have spent $0.00 on repairs - Even the brakes are like new. So - you should just be careful to buy a high quality EV if you do not want to have problems.

[@hpjtv]

My Model S is 11 years old, original full charge was 430km, now is 385km. Around 220k km. Just replaced the brakes recently. They still had 60% left but were cracking due to age.

[@hpjtv]

I also have a Model X that’s 7 years old but it’s had more issues than the S. They don’t make things like they used to going forward.

[@AtanasGrigorov-gw7jt]

Full of lies about Electric vehicles.

[@mipmipmipmipmip-v5x]

"Full of lies about Electric Vehicles" is a great title for Elon Musk's biography

[@yomammo]

EIther German or Japanese. end of story. I had a Honda CRS back in the 90's . Drove it for 450,000 miles in 11 years. I ended up buying a jeep and gave the honda to my buddy as a gift and he drove it for another 10 years. cost was like 5000 usd.

[@jasejj]

It's not just EVs. In the UK we've had MG-branded SAIC petrol-engined cars for over a decade now. And from what I have seen, these cars are basically done at about 8 years or 80,000 miles. When you see 15 year old Ford, German, Japanese, French, Italian etc vehicles with 250k still working perfectly (and indeed 20+ year old MGs and Rovers from the British days still around - these cars never had the best reputation but they lasted far better than the new ones) it brings home just how inferior these cars are.

[@cloudsdrinkwater]

Very fair, honest and transparent reporting China Observer. Hopefully it causes people to have a rethink about purchasing any EV.

[@joejimmy8088]

هذة التقرير خارج من شركات النفط والغاز 🥱 تريد الحقيقة أسمع من الأشخاص الذين يملكون هذة السيارات وليس من مقاطع فيديو على اليوتيوب من شخص لا تعرف من هو وما هو هدفه

[@johnreed8336]

Thank you for the latest upload .

[@icosthop9998]

TY Excellent Reporting 👌

[@gronz]

What a total nonsense, and the Americans all prefer to believe it

[@JetFire9]

Source?

[@gronz]

@@JetFire9 source of the claim you mean? there is none

[@GaryH-pw9cm]

You know it is bad when even the Chinese don't want their EVs.

[@ZakiHaider-y9o]

Well they are selling faster and faster everywhere

[@Dieu_regne]

Good information, thank you. Was considering a new Chery, but not anymore. I'll stick with Japanese.

[@ZakiHaider-y9o]

🤭🤭🤭🤭about that Toyota is copying byd

[@joejimmy8088]

الشركات اليابانية تصنيع الخرده حالياً 😂 ولديها ديون كبيرة جدا لا يمكنهم سدادها ابدا لان سياراتهم لا احد يريد شرائها هذه الشركات في طريقها إلى الإفلاس هم الان يستعينون بالشركات الصينيه حتى تصنع لهم سيارات كهربائية

[@MasticinaAkicta]

Weird, I see some of those weird early european EV's. I know pretty slow and weak, still driving along. You can get an early prius and though boring, it will still work. But then this video is about CHINESE cars so... having them last for longer then 2 weeks is expecting too much.

[@ladislavzima8382]

My parents have a cheap used Nissan Leaf gen1. At 10 years old, with the original battery, the drive range is 100 km instead of the original 120 km, which is amazing. Also for the 4 years they own it, zero maintance was needed.

[@AnthonySheehan]

I have a 2006 ICE Mitsubishi, and it runs like a dream. I just change the oil and filter every 10,000km or 12 months. Usually costs about $100.00. A set of tyres every 3-4 years. Thats it. I paid $3,000 including registration for 12 months. Clearly better than an EV. I could easily sell it for the same price I purchased it for 10 years ago.

[@tespenkr9924]

Meanwhile, Volvo 242 averages 15 years of use.

[@OhmUdomvanich]

NIO ES8 Founder Edition still available in China and support battery swap of 150 kWh semi solid state battery with available software upgrade. Rent battery is very much easy for EV such as cost and services.

[@eaglestar2962]

Most chinese ev cars have 8 years waranty on battery and other crucial parts.

[@lukyluke993]

The data in this video of the lifespan of batteries of completely wrong. Recent data of all models combined shows that the battery lives longer than the car with >70% SOH

[@k9killer221]

The only thing that has the best chips and works reliably is the surveillance system.

[@Kokokripto]

In our country byd e6 is used for taxi for more than 5 years within 500,000 km and still running.

[@GM-lq7sw]

Such issues can be found in any car so this video is just BS media

[@elitechampion]

Especially since the warranty is 5 years lol. If all those parts really broke down at the 4 year mark it would be replaced for free.

[@emmaokon3366]

​@@elitechampionIf you stay in the US or western countries where companies honour warranty claims, I can see why you would believe that. But if you reside in a place where that isn't the norm, then even a 10 year warranty wouldn't do you much good.

[@oscargrainger2962]

We’ve just seen a Tesla do what it says while the Chinese cars didn’t.

[@azimil1]

Thats what u get when the masses are sheeples..😅😅😅

[@ivannovotny4552]

The truth came out!

[@kamsunleong6648]

Yes. The truth is Chinese evs are better built, tech rich and more affordable. EU and US acknowledged that they cannot compete. So the only thing they can do to protect their own is to impose high tariffs. Simple as that.

[@jonmccormick8683]

15:30 Best part of this video -and I hope all vehicles adopt this standard.

[@ronaldwitteman2134]

Just fix the car with instant noodles.

[@wernert5643]

Total bullshit. I'm driving a 4 years old MGZSEV. There's nothing wrong with chinese electric cars.

[@kevinison5539]

MG4 owner here. No regrets buying so far and looks well made TBH. Test drove a Tesla M3 and was underwhelmed. So much hype over Tesla, but I genuinely thought the MG4 was a better drive, though not as powerful, I admit. The group 48-50 insurance of all Tesla was the final nail in its coffin. The wife had the later MGZS EV that was also pretty good. The car literally saved her life when she had a head on crash at high speed six months ago. All the safety features worked brilliantly and the car even called the emergency services. All she had was seat belt injuries while the other ICE car driver nearly died with multiple injuries including punctured lung, broken sternum. She now has an ID3 which is ok, but very boring to drive compared to the MG4 which I think steers and handles much better. EVs aren't for everyone yet, but they are getting better with enough range for a lot of people now.

[@elitechampion]

Yeah such a lie as the Xpengs are covered by a 5 year warranty so it would be fixed for free! She probably drove through flood waters and had her warranty voided so she's sore!

[@klinker321]

5 years ago, Chinese EVs were not as good as today's car... And 100K Yuan is not a lot for a new car

[@tanpengjoo7205]

EV - electrocuted vehicle

[@jameswalker7899]

An impressive report. Warmest compliments. Thank you.

[@jonathangan1987]

A lawsuit brewing...expensive but crap. Good luck owners.

[@ladislavzima8382]

Goog luck in a totalitarian country :-)

[@koskos758]

That is why in America are high tariffs for Chinese crap.

[@epicmickey2351]

Good thing they don’t sell junk Chinese cars in the US.

[@fritzbautista1141]

Moral of the story… buy gas motor and use commute vehicles

[@Qingeaton]

I will never own an electric car.

[@KitKitChanIsaac]

Same here. I'm committed to ICE power here. Specifically, V8 power.

[@Ak47pistolgunjejr]

Me to

[@proud_emmerian6510]

​@@KitKitChanIsaacVery based

[@BillionairesArentYourFriends]

Hybrids and gas engines will be the only cars on the market in decades. EVs will remain for luxury brands that your average person will never actually be able to own. You'll never see a cheap Toyota Corolla with an EV engine.

[@Qingeaton]

@@BillionairesArentYourFriends My main problems with them are, the lifespan of the battery and the lack of a resale value. Drive it until it needs a battery and you are screwed. Drive it half its life and the second buyer is screwed. It's more expensive than putting a brand new engine in your gas car.

[@DestinysComputer]

My 20 year old Toyota with 300,000km is still going strong and coukd easily last another 5-10 years.

[@stormtrooper2170]

Buy a new EV for 80,000 yuan. Drive for 4 years n repair it for 70,000 yuan. Don't repair but sell it for 10,000 yuan add 70,000 yuan n get a new one. Smart..Right..?.👈✌️✌️😁

[@robertanton1862]

rich people and people in power cannot believe how for thousands of years there were slaves around, and none today. so what better way than making free people selling themselves to their new masters? and today's masters are much cleverer than yesterday's masters. in the past masters were paying for a private army to go and bring them some slaves. today's masters don't even want to do all that spending, but they engineered a way for free people to sell themselves to their will

[@1maico1]

That would work out at $4800 a year. What is the average depreciation of someone buying a new car in the US?

[@haianh3936]

Thank you buddy

[@Tampon_Tim]

What do these ppl expect from a $14,000 car?

[@lance8080]

Anything Chinese falls apart 🇨🇳

[@steve_is_my_name]

Yeah, I had similar on my BMW 3 series. after 4 years the transmission developed a fault and they wanted 4k to repair. It was crazy.

[@JBsC6]

Best to lease for three years

[@gerhardkutt1748]

This report is rubbish. Person who wrote it does not understand the basics on the technology. Lot's of mis-information here. Sadly. Sure there will be problems, but the idea of EV's is much better than using fossil fuel cars. The problem in China is poor infracstructure, bad drivers, poor quality of the cars - as they are not built for long life and poor service infrastructure, because China does not yet understand service, consumer rights and customer care. It is a production, manufacturing focused culture, not a service centered one. Also there are far too many suppliers so many will fail. Price pressure means once government subsidies are taken away - few will be able to keep making a profit.

[@robertanton1862]

reply to your: "idea of EV's is much better than using fossil fuel cars" what idiot wants to drive a normal car (Petrol or Diesel) with a grenade under his/her seat? "don't worry, the safety pin is ON" "yeah, but at any point in time during driving, the grenade could move around and the safety pin could get caught in something and get pulled out" "no don't worry, it won't happen" "besides, this is a device that will help you save £££billions in fuel and maintenance costs"

[@KingShaf7]

So they last longer than most Chinese products which only last days or months 🤷‍♂️

[@elitechampion]

You get what you pay for mate, if you're too stingy to spend more than $14k USD (100k yuan) on a brand new car, don't be surprised when it dies early. However, the video is BS as even a dodgier brand like Xpeng is covered by a 5 year warranty (10 years for the battery) which means it would all be replaced for free. Stick to BYD and Tesla for EVs, don't stinge out or you get what you pay for.

[@alwaysearching3154]

Made in China - what did you expect

[@TRcommander]

Another propaganda from dying IC car companies 😂

[@deniarifiyanto3862]

Yup. Propaganda from US, JP and EU, since they increasing 100% import taxes...😂

[@kennethausten]

And on top of all this. Insurance costs will destroy you.

[@mikemauck2192]

Should have bought a Tesla.

[@Ruzhki]

Yea, im looking for a new car, and i dont trust the chinese, so im probably gonna buy the new model y just coz u know tesla works.

[@Trezker]

I'm in my 6th year with my Tesla Model 3. No nasty surprises yet, minimal maintenance.

[@robertbrown1852]

Tesla is a better standard of shite.

[@BillionairesArentYourFriends]

Did you miss the Tesla in this video by accident or on purpose?

[@Ruzhki]

​@@BillionairesArentYourFriends they showed that the tesla actually worked, and we all know that in europe they usually still rolling after 10 years, and get updates.

[@dashcam7899]

I'm still using old car almost 10 years old, my isuzu panther grand touring, it originated from Japan , got never overhaul the car diesel machine, no ECU, manual transmission, i will use it again as long as still Diesel fuel sales available, old car less technology so less worry, of course save more pocket money too

[@Kalikus808]

EV = electric vehicle, not energy vehicle

[@ajkulac9895]

Chinese call EVs "new energy vehicles"

[@constantinelheman]

Exploding Vehicle

[@alansailing1387]

They also call hybrids New Energy Vehicles. This I the first time they have quoted the figures for Full Electric Vehicles.

[@JAM661]

I am surprised they last that long. Meanwhile my Mazda tribute is 15 years old and still has another 10 year in her. I think they should totally ban these cars in the USA because of the spying risk and the danger to everyone on the road, not just the driver. Good video

[@Gregory-Masovutch]

That's why BYD has lowered their prices and quality. Disposable cars.

[@AlistairArbour-qi3xp]

Just looking at then it feels like that

[@haz3004]

It looks like a fake car lol

[@dallinsg]

thats what they get for buying a Chinese EV.....that lady had the nerve to complain about her Chinese EV as she walked by a Tesla shop it was hilarious !

[@warrior3614]

You have many Americans complaining about poor quality of tesla cars, tesla overpriced garbage.

[@b21raider27]

EVs in general I will skip for now and I would never buy a Chinese EV. Battery range, charging speed and safety needs to improve before I buy one. I’ll keep my old Honda. Old Volvo’s are great, new Volvo’s forget it (Geely bought in 2010).

[@SonOfTheOne111]

Reality: EVs are just expensive consumer electronics; and have the same depreciation and obsolescence timeframe as a television or laptop computer!

[@henrycarlson7514]

So wise , thank You

[@guill90]

EV driver ejection mode (9:29). EV flamethrower mode (9:57)

[@kevinjones3900]

Thats better than my one plus open. It didn't last 3 months. They wouldn't ever honour the warranty stay away.

[@cqfox]

I’ve driven my BMW in China for more than 8 years, and it still runs a dream. It’ll go forever as long as we maintain it well.

[@kavitaredkar1818]

Thank you 🙏🙏🇮🇳

[@davidyoung2111]

I WILL NEVER IWN AN ELECTRIC CAR! ITS STUPID. If your power goes out for any reason like floods, hurricanes, earthquakes, riots, tornados, thunderstorms etc-your EV is a paper weight. Combustion engines was a marvelous invention. Independent from the grid, plus you can do your own maintenence, so you save A TON!

[@Mr_Smackle]

whats funny is youre SO wrong. During the hurricanes in flordia recently the EV owners were charging fine while all the gas cars where waiting in HOURS long gas lines and most stations were out. Also EVs have basically no maintenance so youre wrong about that too. Honestly just keep buying gas cars an EV is probably too mentally taxing for you to own LOL

[@skela098]

@@Mr_Smackle So EV's do not have suspension, brakes, fluids (other than engine oil), AC's, filters... Also they are sometimes twice as heavy than ICE cars, with more power - so huge amount of wear and tear on suspension components and brakes... Yet they have basically no maintenance...

[@YangSter-xh6wz]

@@Mr_Smackletypical.

[@Mr_Smackle]

@@skela098 theyre not twice as heavy maybe like 1,000 lb more than the gas equivalents so much misinformation and ignorance about these cars is nuts. Most EVs dont require brake changes cause they engine break to regen energy. Tires and suspension wear faster sure but thats literally it.

[@robertanton1862]

@@Mr_Smackle reply to:" EVs have basically no maintenance" that's what most EV owners do. Nothing. Just charge&drive their EVs, and later sell them to an innocent who's gonna need to fix all the missed maintenances from the previous owner. even a push bicycle needs maintenance.

[@simonbroberg969]

My ICE motorcycle is now 33 years old... that is the most modern one (CBR900RRn unrestricted 893cc) ... working on my 1959 AJS 350 to get her running, need a little work on the 1987 one, but will get it running again,.. I don't get stuck in traffic so don't waste time. A fella I met has been using his 1915 Harley, so if you look after them, and do the maintenance you can keep them running. P.S. well done on doing 100k in an EV that is made it just about carbon zero, as you need to do that amount of miles to counter balance the carbon it took to build it. They are never as green as they make out.... Oh I forgot, your electricity comes from coal fired power stations, so you can forget being being carbon free anyway!

[@peterjackson2625]

If you use the heater or air conditioning, it drastically shortens the range. In a gas car, the heater uses the engine cooling water, ie uses waste energy.

[@buixote]

The Electric Viking is a better source of info on Chinese EVs.

[@tookay5]

NIO models answer a lot of the problems identified in this video, with their battery rental & battery swap tech. However, I was shocked that they did so badly in that test to brake for the kids crossing the road. As the test engineer said...the NIO models have so many sensors it should have performed a lot better.

[@David-fj5lz]

With replacement battery you have to inform your insurance company as it will increAse their risk!

[@smedleyfarnsworth263]

The best thing about an electric car is, not owning one.

[@MartinChadwick-xe7gh]

100,000 Yuan is £11,000. So far cheaper than replacing a battery in the West. Though, I think EU will better enforce fixing of non-battery issues for more reasonable amounts for far longer.

[@jhepoy944]

Like food, it has expiration date for 5 years?! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂