Chinese New Stock Traders All Trapped, Cries Everywhere! Gen Z Borrowed $10K, Lost It All Plus $7K!

[@azmymidon39]

Start blaming yourself for treating the stock market like a casino 😂

[@mikewolf-x6t]

Come on Red, mama needs a new pair of shoes

[@EricBarthDev]

huh ? not everyone treats it that way.. ur not bright huh ?

[@CrossfitWarrior]

I've been a investor for 10 years and I firmly believe the stock market is legal gambling. Given when you invest into a company your betting that they go up or if your shorting it, hoping it will go down. Even look at puts and calls short term option trading where you can bet the stock will go up to a certain price by a certain day lol sounds like gambling to me.

[@singlefather01]

​@@EricBarthDev And you missed his point completely. These people utterly got suckered into treating it like casino. And there was no logical thought went into it. They deserve everything they are getting.

[@acidkhmer]

YES its a worldwide Casino "Legal one"...

[@John-ww2fv]

Many were misled by social media influencers promoting "hot stocks" and "guaranteed returns" without disclosing risks.

[@TheDuke792]

Insufficient financial education and risk awareness exacerbated the issue, as many investors didn't understand the implications of margin trading and leveraged investing.

[@JasonAmir-qo4uo]

China's lenient regulatory environment, compared to Europe and the US, is concerning. The lack of transparency and enforcement enables fraudulent activities.

[@OwenFlex]

Effective investor protection requires stricter regulations, transparency, and harsher penalties for violators

[@John-ww2fv]

How can individuals protect themselves from similar situations?

[@OwenFlex]

Diversification and long-term investing are key, focusing on fundamentals rather than speculation.

[@TaintedStaff]

Unfortunately nobody from the CCP told the New stock traders that they were the new Chives to be farmed

[@By-Guitars-Music-Fun]

Cows milked I would call them 😂😂

[@mikewolf-x6t]

Xi just figured that it waz better to just take the money from the dumbass green investors rather than impose more taxes in the middle of there economic crisis

[@EyeSeeThruYou]

Good analogy, actually.

[@michaelli835]

This isn’t a China thing tho. If you know trading everyone loses money. 98% of options trader lose money. 95% of hedge funds don’t outperform the S&P 500. Even the pros lose.

[@2RosarioVampire]

​@@michaelli835 95% of hedge funds don't outperform the S&P500 but most hedge funds straight out aren't using S&P500 as a benchmark. And of those which do, at least almost all of them are making you money. Pros are losing relative to a benchmark but they almost always aren't losing money. Retail just loses money.

[@matzmn]

Borrowing a huge amount of money for stock trading? That is asking for trouble.

[@captainhadd0ck]

They not only borrowed the money but no doubt traded on margin with it - absolute insanity.

[@Micfri300]

I wonder if the ccp allows trading gold?

[@kaoskronostyche9939]

That is how the Great Depression was caused.

[@TheMutos]

Don't buy something you don't understand

[@sirnirvikingur]

And dont afford.

[@ChangYu-wi4ez]

Even if you do understand, be careful!

[@carlmorgan8452]

Pump and dump

[@ProjectILT]

This is why there is such a common misconception that "the stock market is a scam". 90% of the people are idiots like these guys who buy stocks and get in the market based off of rumors and quick 5-minute investment tips. They "invest" without doing any research or thinking as to why or why not the investment is sound, then they lose money and go tell everyone they know "the stock market is a scam!!!", and then their idiot friends who know nothing about stocks as well go "yeah I know like 4 people who said the same thing, must be true".

[@MinhPham-vg6bw]

I bought Nvidia 13 years ago and didn't understand it 😁

[@svennielsen633]

CCP economy 2024: - housing market bankrupt - municipalities bankrupt - stock market collapsed - unemployment unlimited - production and shops closing - corruption sky high.

[@Micfri300]

Ccp members gain on global gold prices.

[@rambo64bit82]

Sounds like a normal Tuesday

[@EyeSeeThruYou]

​@Micfri300 Aaah, the hypocrisy of the ruling elite everywhere. That's been said of the higher ups in Cuba, too.

[@mlong9475]

These are not investors. They are gamblers trying to get rich overnight. You invest for the long term. For years. If you look at the stock market every day you'll go crazy!

[@HungoverHistorian-zf6gi]

Unfortunately the long term market is a losing game too in China. Trading is, well, faster. Central planning doesn’t allow private individuals to act smart and move ahead, it’s all herd mentality and shared misery.

[@2RosarioVampire]

@@HungoverHistorian-zf6gi Long term is not a losing game at the right valuations in the right company. The problem is just that. Look at Tencent stock since 2008. Up almost 40x even after the insane tech crackdowns back in 2021. Or Baidu stock since 2005. Up 6.7x despite the insane tech crackdowns as well. Or Moutai. Up 172x since 20021. Or BYD. Up 19x since 2008. And so forth. The problem is you have to be really really really good at learning to read financial statements in China with extreme patience to make money in the stock market. For the average retail, that isn't happening. You basically need to either be a talented professional with high patience or an insider trader. The former is kind of stupid because those who already have the talent to pick the right stocks already have enough talent to make a lot of money so money isn't as important in the first place. But ... stocks themselves in China is not a losing game. However, index funds can be a losing game in Chinese stocks historically because there's so many garbage companies lying their numbers and state owned enterprise firms which see investors as a source of free money.

[@555Plus]

Chinese market is great for short term because of high volatility. But bad for long term because the CCP cares more about their policy than the stocks market.

[@samsadeniz]

These clowns are not investors. They are gamblers. They gambled their savings and lost. Same as going to a casino and playing roulette.

[@stevenjohns1322]

Or betting on a horse just because you like the name of the horse

[@Unprotected1232]

In other words they're speculators.

[@stevenjohns1322]

@@Unprotected1232 no, without the knowledge of how the markets work they are just stupid

[@bayumahendra1797]

They must be rookie who got FOMO

[@RedRomanov]

Also with loans

[@maemorri]

"If you can't spot the sucker at the table, leave fast. You're the sucker." "If you won't quit when you're ahead, and can't quit when you're behind, then the logical time to quit is when you're broke."

[@wilkinlow]

Damn those are some wise words

[@wow-3]

They trust their government so much they got scammed 😂😂😂

[@merlinlemmerdeur7417]

9:19 It's not even a matter of economical knowledge, it's just pure madness at this point 2 elders to take care of, one wedding to plan, a small business to manage and tight finances, and you decide to go all in... Wtf.

[@brendanaw]

Government rug pull at its finest.

[@frankallen960]

They need to listen to the Kenny Rogers song “The Gambler” as these fools don’t know when to hold them, when to fold them, when to walk away or when to run….

[@troublelift8764]

the CCP thanks all of them for their money now they finally reached that 5% goal

[@richardcraniumXLVII]

these people are NOT INVESTORS !!!!!!!!! They are GAMBLERS

[@Moe_Lester_fromUptwn]

That's investing! An educated gamble.

[@Lawliet734]

@richard The Chinese stock market is up over the last month and YTD. It was down for only one week! If they profit, we call them investors. If they lose, we call them gamblers.

[@RickyAsuncion]

They can claim their investment. They can use historical rights.Just like South China Sea.

[@CrossfitWarrior]

As an American investor, while the retail investors were flooding in the major institutions were selling at the top. It was a text book pump and dump or bull trap. The people who bought at the time will absolutely lose their money given most can't hold until their back even.

[@Lawliet734]

@Cross "...until their [they are/they're] back even." Their backs are against the wall. I don't know what "their backs are even" means.

[@benyomovod6904]

Greed eats brain

[@vanessali1365]

貪字變貧 😂

[@RedRomanov]

Those screaming people are the last kind of people that should day trade. I know someone who can separate the emotion out of this and make great profit. He totally stopped when the economy gets bad.

[@HKim0072]

Fun fact: Generally, US stocks go up on average volume days and go down on high volume days.

[@ben.s.s]

Stock market is not a casino, but if you take a loan and buy stocks without understanding the risk, that is gambling. Generally normal retail investors don’t buy and sell stocks daily, or even monthly. Most buy and hold, sell only many years of increments or never sell at all.

[@gregwilliam8557]

I remember South Korean Gen z in similar situations about 5 years ago. Some were taking out second mortgage on mother's home, investing in crypto and losing it all.

[@youshotonce]

no manufacturing company will want to open new shop in China

[@Arltratlo]

lol, i just moved ¥6000 to my savings account, saving money for my new motorbike i will buy next year... its a Suzuki!

[@mikerowe3849]

Oohhhh boo hooo! Big babies!

[@AmaenbouShougun]

Getting involved without understanding the risks, exposing yourself as a fool on the internet and gaining sympathy won't solve anything.

[@postscript5549]

Did the investors not know that stocks could go down? It is really dangerous to borrow money to buy stock. This podcast makes me wonder about the population's knowledge.

[@ironaston9858]

Never gamble what you can't afford to lose.

[@ZaJuice777]

You can't trust a market that won't allow you to short. This story would be very different if they were allowed to short these dumpster stocks. But the fact that you can only go long is a losing game. There's no accountability.

[@zayned3967]

It takes years to develop the mental resilience to deal with ups and downs, and to sit cool or to walk away. They just jumped all-in.

[@stoundingresults]

A good cartoon on stocks explained how they were designed for a company to borrow money to make a company grow. It's all fuckery now.

[@jasonwhear4330]

These people never invested in the markets all their lives and they expect a social media infirnation push would make them richer? Come on.

[@min57822li]

sell your cars, go back farm, there's food.

[@ETr4d3]

Hope is not a viable trading strategy.

[@free322001]

Guess what guys! The market can go DOWN. WAY down.

[@christopher-qh5is]

I feel for these people. Monetary issues are the worst. I don’t subscribe to satisfactions for the pain of others. The Chinese are human and we should never celebrate others loses.

[@rvyne24]

Use extra funds, separate from your main savings-only invest what you're willing to lose. Don’t invest in stocks using loans-these people are crazy!

[@Jim-br549]

If can't hold it you don't own it. Stock Market is out of your control. Don't play the Casino. The odds are always against you. Don't be greedy.

[@Rocky-rh3rz]

6:21 well said right there.. in this economy, trading Chinese stocks is NOT an INVESTMENT, not even GAMBLING anymore, but became a DONATION

[@itechfive240]

Lost a million dollars now work at 7-11.

[@barrymayson2492]

This is not new back in 1720 the south sea bubble. The ordinary people didn't know how the stock market worked and the crash put thousands into poverty. It strikes me this is the same, a rumour spreads about quick profits. Then it goes well for a day or 2 then it crashes. I don't know but stock markets are always jittery this time of year. There needs to be more rules on new investors. Most Chinese do not understand the stock markets

[@Tydorstus]

I learnt about that topic on extra history. Really interesting topic

[@davidr7819]

Yes, also Dutch tulip mania of 1636 😂🌷🌷🌷

[@JakeOng-p5m]

That's A Good Learning Curve. If You Loss Several Hundreds GET OUT, There Are Still Tomorrow. While Wait You Loss Everything!!!!!

[@shubus]

No sympathy at all for stupid gamblers. These Chinese are like lemmings falling off the cliff.

[@uctaivannguyen9519]

Hey, did they use your mom's money? Why so aggressive and patriarchal? Also, the stock market was controlled by CCP, what do you expect Mr. I'm so perfect?

[@jamescameron9133]

You realize those lemmings jumped in the film because disney drove land rovers at them, shepherding them over the cliff. Idiot

[@MasticinaAkicta]

I am sure that the party members and those in the known of when the money flows in have shorted and gotten their money out in time. So the PARTY is happy. The chives, well...

[@alansmith-l3v]

They have o one to blame but themselves for trading stocks!

[@wynnejulius2251]

Dont risk what you dont have. The stock market dont care about your feelings.

[@bennyboy5374]

If you went in with 350k and have only 70k left when the market been down 15%, then you been leveraging, which is really dumb for a newbie

[@thecitchannel2856]

I'm seeing an old definition of stupidity being practiced. What's it going to take for some people to learn a simple lesson?

[@collin_mmarshall1655]

Now go back to the paddy field and grow my rice!

[@alasdairwhyte6616]

stock market = gambling house. newsflash the house always wins

[@lharwest1571]

I can already see a surge of Disowned Family members by their parents by the end of the month..

[@kevintmerk]

Due diligence is the responsibility of the trader. Lesson one is never believe what you read or hear when you don’t know what you’re doing.

[@mukamuka0]

Stock market is a feeding ground for whales (Institutional funds) and these noob traders are food

[@stevenjohns1322]

New investors in the stock markets without the knowledge is like betting on a horse because you like the name of the horse

[@FadingVitals]

Buhuu wähh 😭 Don’t play with your money! Specially not with your savings! You see your country in decline, why do you think your stock gets up?

[@mlong9475]

These people got conned by influencers.

[@billmurray1431]

Now it's a ToFu dreg stock market . Is anything real over there lol............

[@joshuahale8621]

Commies get 2 min lesson to capitalism.

[@gener8423]

These Chinese people don't even realize that they're gambling !

[@jaybae5850]

There's gambling...and then there's 🇨🇳 gambling. Which one is the obvious scam? 🤣

[@CantoniaCustoms]

Fuck it imma go to macau lol

[@randalsaladbar]

I wonder if all these people who bet it all on national pride, still believe in national pride

[@mihangelap-williams9871]

I have been in fits of rage due to life not going my way and wanting to change it, but the last thing i did was record this and put itnout to the world for everyone to see.....am i missing something here, these people enjoy telling everyone that they were suckers?

[@Rize_Back]

Buy high Sell low

[@By-Guitars-Music-Fun]

New strategy mate 😂😂 Rize back 😂

[@edhofiko3168]

remember to buy when red and sell when green not the other way around

[@matthewparsons3326]

Lol😂😂😂

[@leopard1419]

😮

[@카일마진]

and make sure you dont get emotional about it too .....being too hopeful is a red flag

[@estacioclan]

You dont know why, ask the CCP. your money just transfer to other hands! 😏😒🙄

[@ChiefKene]

Sheesh 70% losses in less than a month is nuts. Do they offer ETFs in China? Like the Chinese equivalent of the US S&P 500 ?

[@ProjectILT]

Buying the overall chinese market? You must be new here.

[@kilnmaster]

😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@ZaJuice777]

Ya it's the FXI. The largest cap chinese stocks and it's not looking great. But at least you can short it. Meaning you can go the other direction.

[@shade343]

$KWEB

[@michanel888]

@@ZaJuice777I thought China government do not allowed shorting (meaning when you can’t said the market is bad😂)

[@golbs7542]

They lost only 10k? Nothing to cry about.

[@HimanshuYadav-yq5ih]

Most of them didn't invest in top companies of Chinese stock market due to which they face huge losses, in this kind of votalite market if you are new investor always invest in top 5 companies (mega cap) of your country.

[@Singalongwithudit]

How these crybabies will fight tuff Indian Army😂

[@marcelandrey9579]

Ehmm is it trendy now for being video selfie in state of crying??..

[@vilena5308]

Oh good. It's not just me. At one moment I realized that they all set up the scene, and then cry, slap themselves, scream, cry on the sidewalk in the rain, etc.

[@bulkhammerii3419]

They look like toddlers having a tantrum grow up ffs!

[@piotrmajewski5978]

@@marcelandrey9579 It's all fake. And faked beyond highest cringe levels.

[@richardweiner6608]

Nothing is certain, but in my opinion this is an example of short term trading vs long term investing. Those who DCA into beat down stocks and are willing to hold for a long duration will likely be rewarded. Personally, an approach that has worked well for me is to use a hybrid strategy in which I do short term trading and after a 5 to 30% gain, then sell to recoup my investment and any gain on the trade is retained as shares in the company for the long term.

[@BobbyLoo-jr8ys]

lesson: work hard to get rich and not take short cuts in life.

[@alpark3024]

if stock market rises, how do you lose? Unless CCP is manipulating the stock market.

[@joelturley4847]

china has no stock market 😅 It is beyond a joke 🤣

[@SeroCloud]

Sounds like most of them dont do their DD and just go in yolo.😂

[@rickrollrizal]

Stocks are so stupid. You're not even the gambler. You're the side bet of a side bet.

[@카일마진]

took me 10 yrs to learn but stocks aint stupid if you know when to go in and when to get out

[@TheArties]

How many will jump this time? Haven't they learned from the past?

[@spiki_x6863]

I assume that you cannot short on the Chinese stock market?

[@eccentricsmithy2746]

I shorted and bought puts those days. Thank you for your money. I made millions. Thank you for your inexperience and poor gambling decisions.

[@januszjaxaxa9929]

Long term investors are not desperately waiting for bull market, they are now happily buying for lower prices. These people shown in video don't look like long term investors.

[@stephenm3470]

Im not sure there are institutional investors buying the dip. We buy the dip because we know it will go up again. This is likely as good as the chinese economy will get for 2 generations. No one is gambling the ccp will efficiently and quickly fix the economy any time in the next 50 years.

[@seolong3326]

A well-defined trading plan is important. You can't simply buy, hold and then hope for the best!

[@kha58]

I never traded on stocks before and have no idea what I am doing but I am all in, even borrow money from friends and the banks and now I lost everything. What bad luck!

[@PilotoLinko]

They never know that money have eyes like 👀 camara from heaven that can flip back a punch😂....

[@Michael9-23-15]

These people would've had a better chance going to Las Vegas 😊

[@mlong9475]

Truth be told you did'nt "lose anything" until you've sold it. Unless the company stock get delisted.

[@michelle057]

Ong bruh lost 4k online gambling💀

[@Agentofkaos6808]

The U.S. stock market is expecting the Chinese government to give a big stimulus and what the Chinese government does, they give a so so stimulus with very little details of course the U.S. market will pummeled them.

[@mukbangjeezus126]

the stock / crypto market is for INVESTING for years. Not days or months. These people dont understand

[@PilotoLinko]

Your teacher never teach you anything about the money but they only teach you how to work to get money but the money was a person😂...

[@TadPrice-ih7iv]

Uncle Yu says, “Buy the dip”!

[@redplanet7163]

He was talking about the creamy chive dip.

[@dougsheldon5560]

When you owe the bank 10,000, you have a problem. When you owe the bank 100,000, they have a problem😂😂

[@Lelende]

I have to sympathise with them. People are calling them greedy and stupid but Chinese youth employment is well over 20%. Many don't have a future and it is very easy to take advantage of desperate people.

[@sirnirvikingur]

Exactly, this is just evil.

[@rhyanjill]

Cardinal rule of investing is to only invest money that you’re willing to lose. That’s why leverage/debt is highly frowned upon.

[@HungoverHistorian-zf6gi]

This is rather incorrect, do you think a business owner could “afford” to lose his business? It’s all about risk/reward assessment, given that zero risk does not exist. Anyway, taking out loans to invest in the stock market is always an awful idea.

[@rhyanjill]

@@HungoverHistorian-zf6gi At the core of the investment proverb of “only invest money you’re willing to lose” is the idea of understanding your risk tolerance so no, we’re not saying 2 different things here. You’re just saying it in a different way. The only reason why I wouldn’t say it the way you say it, like, recommend everyone to do a risk benefit analysis or a risk assessment is because at the end of the day, every noob investor loves to pretend that they’re an expert based on investment tips they learned from a KZbin video. Therefore it’s more responsible to tell everyone that if you’re investing, losing money permanently in bad products or even getting trapped in unrealized losses is part of the game so only invest money you’re willing to lose. And yes, that applies to businesses as well. Giant franchises are able to grow big because they always include the loss of a store as part of their risk calculations. And I would say this is the most misunderstood part about “margins”. It’s not always the case that the corpos are just greedy even though it often is, but they always include the potential for losses in computing what “margins” are considered profitable. So, a business owner who fail to account for the potential for loss is not doing a great job.

[@rhyanjill]

@@HungoverHistorian-zf6gi We’re not really saying two different things here. The concept behind investing “only the money you’re willing to lose” is the idea that all investments have a certain level of risk to them so you should always include the potential for losses in your risk assessment or cost benefit analysis. Investing in businesses is no exception. Large franchises are able to grow so big because the potential for losing a store branch or two is always included in calculating what margins they should target in order to prepare them during a downturn. Therefore, any business that “can’t afford” to take losses and fail to account for downturns isn’t doing a good job. And the reason why I wouldn’t say things the way you say it is because every novice investor and business owner love to pretend to be an expert on risk assessments based on the 45 minute video they watched on KZbin. It’s better to tell everyone that risk of losses, whether permanent due to investing on bad products or temporary losses due to a downturn, is just part of the game.

[@rhyanjill]

^ We’re not really saying two different things here. The concept behind investing “only the money you’re willing to lose” is the idea that all investments have a certain level of risk to them so you should always include the potential for losses in your risk management or cost benefit analysis. Investing in businesses is no exception. Large franchises are able to grow so big because the potential for losing a store branch or two is always included in calculating what margins they should target in order to prepare them during a downturn. Therefore, any business that “can’t afford” to take losses and fail to account for downturns isn’t doing a good job. And the reason why I wouldn’t say things the way you say it is because every novice investor and business owner love to pretend to be an expert on risk management based on the 45 minute video they watched on KZbin. It’s better to tell everyone that risk of losses, whether permanent due to investing on bad products or temporary losses due to a downturn, is just part of the game.

[@melhudson8448]

Borrowed 100,000 to put into the stock market, on one stock. Luck will never favour the reckless.

[@Michael9-23-15]

I don't have any empathy for these people. I only feel bad for the poor people living in small villages that are struggling to survive.

[@tylernathan7985]

If 35% of 4 billion went into their market in one day, that market would have bumped up massively

[@epongertsnow8215]

Dont play futures trade if you do not know the market works, if you want to win just make it sinple and patience. Buy low sell high.

[@williambinkley8879]

I guess they don’t teach “buy low, sell high” in Chinese schools

[@acpmedicine]

so ridiculous. it sounds that some folks were inexperienced investors loan money and day trading. how sad

[@ray3172]

The bull market turned to be a bull shit market instead.

[@mynde8633]

These stocks keep going down down down down down in quicksand. Hopefully things turn around for these hardworking people.