Huge changes coming [I've been recommending THIS for years!] Rise of Kingdoms

[@jayflyff2318]

The later stages of Kau Karuak also seem problematic. For example, the 3rd to 5th stages in Tides of War only become available after the Kingsland battle or the acquisition of the Ziggurat. This should be improved or rescheduled to occur before the opening of Pass 8. Ideally, all stages of Kau Karuak should be completed before the final war.

[@elyosurtem9580]

But peoples would invest less money on crystal tech ^^

[@texascpa]

YES! This! Karuak timing makes zero sense.

[@TheJddog99]

They should just make all stages available right at the beginning. I mean, who will that hurt other than giving F2P more buffs early on.

[@quadriplegic2789]

fully agree, its crazy that they do this.

[@Durmomo0]

its *totally* a thing where they can say "see we did something for f2p" when in reality its basically useless lol At least it allows you to collect kvk coins though so thats something

[@AcEMaiNo]

GIVE US SOME RSS AND SPEEDUPS BACK SO WE CAN SPEND MORE MONEY ON CRYSTAL TECH!!!

[@tahahasan236]

They just wanna bleed you dry, accept it! I LOVE THIS GAME AND I CANT WATCH IT DIE!

[@OrionArmada-j3s]

Is it a coincidence that such massive improvements are announced just 10 days after the global launch of AoEm ? Sting of competition ? 😅😅😅

[@frrkgmn]

that game has so many features that took 7 years for rok to implement

[@tahahasan236]

We have someone to thank for this 😂

[@Defense89]

hope they implement auto barbs hunting

[@TheBaguetteMuncher]

@@Defense89hmm, I don’t agree, that would mess so much with events like clarican which is IMO a way for F2P players to ‘win’ events and gain rewards for positioning even if they are not that good, unless ofcourse something like marauders is used for those events

[@RubertNieuwenhuis]

the rss grind off season is actually the reason I quit recently. To run 7 farms on a daily basis for months to get rss for couple of days fighting is really too much of an effort.

[@manuelvelasco2761]

Bro i am getting there after 3yrs. 1st i checked 5 times, then 4, 3 now wathever

[@philip9707]

Rss aren’t to hard to get, I play for 2h a day and gather like 1 billion a week

[@manuelvelasco2761]

@@philip9707 well 2 hs is a lot as time goes by. Outside kvk one gets lazy

[@philip9707]

@@manuelvelasco2761 I travel by train a lot so need to do something

[@Ronnieboboff]

​@@philip9707you would need over 10 farms to realistically achieve what you said there. Which is kind of the OPs point

[@davidw.5185]

These are very positive developments. Now; please do an auto transfer or single transfer system from farm to main. Transferring 4 million at a time completely sucks... Thx! 😊

[@rongray35]

Making it say 10 or 20 million per cart would be fine. But that should only be for farms. Transferring to others should still be regulated. That limit is necessary to to regulate the rsssellers

[@rongray35]

Making it say 10 or 20 million per cart would be fine. But that should only be for farms. Transferring to others should still be regulated. That limit is necessary to to regulate the rsssellers

[@cubasmike]

You still doing it by hand? You gotta improve that method XD.

[@TJMiton]

at the very least, transferring between cities on the same account should be uncapped. not like you're selling rss to yourself.

[@Nick-t7i]

@@rongray35rss sellers are great what are you on?

[@Alex-yk2tf]

I'm actually hyped regarding the resource and speedups funding, and for the kvk duration i totally agree with you. Speaking from experience as I've been in kingdoms where we've been betrayed, and had the unfortunate luck to deal with allies who start farming early on in kvk which makes us lose immediately. But regarding the city theme debuff cancelation, there will be tons of disadvantages unless they keep the debuff on cities that are zenith related like the 12% troop defense or attack. If they didn't keep them, we're screwed.

[@callumgreen1674]

Removing a city debuff is a way to generate more cash for Zenith. There will be meta skins released like 12% health with no debuff and it's going to be super competitive and people will spend more to get it.

[@trikszv341]

Lilith said it countless times there will NOT be a health city skin.

[@Dennis-if6fo]

Yet

[@akinirenji]

Maybe to make it fair they should add old zenith skins in the KvK shop ? So at least mid/low spenders….. would realistically have a chance to get a good city skin

[@suphichenko]

you could play one single type player with low cost and easily could get strong this way without being obliged to spend much. now they are expecting everyone to try to have all meta commanders by removing the only advantage 1 type players have. ofc, it means more money to lilith. but i will leave this game as soon as this happens personally. i am not talking about selling account. just leave and never return. simple. and freedom tbh. whenever it comes

[@Jabari1978]

Maybe AoEm coming and competing for popularity among playerbase actually forces companies to listen what players want and give them that.

[@Freeze4545]

What I was thinking

[@kapotas]

aoe is not at the rok level at the moment but the base of the game is way better than rok and i think soon it will be better

[@Itsajourneything]

Let us finish kkaruak lvl 4 before pass7 opens

[@texascpa]

It should work like this: K1 before Pass 4, K2 before Pass 5, K3 before Pass 6, K4 before Pass 7, K5 before Pass 8. Simple and allows players to get the karuaks before they are out of troops and the crystals they need for fighting.

[@Itsajourneything]

@@texascpa exactly. And it's easy to implement

[@etayyreal]

They should make migration and passports cheaper.

[@kevincheshire3368]

rss refund is good ,😭 hope they implement it in-game

[@baechu7839]

Changes should be combat-oriented: More speed to all troops, less healing time or resources invested for all, less cost of armament manufacturing or less cost of legendary sculpts for a commander at max, maybe from 700 to only 600, the resource nodes have more resources and the speed of collecting them increases considerably, or the rewards for strong attacks are super-considerable in terms of resources.

[@strat3g1cal41]

Reply @14:00 Love the matchmaking kvk stamp rating Chisgule! It could be exactly like well not “exactly” but similar to the Champions Of Olympia “Repute” score “Reputation score” you get for abandoning your teammates whether it be intentionally or unintentionally for the entire match. I think this is BRILLIANT! Developers PLEASE take notes 📝

[@kevinramos5188]

We need a new commander in expedition shop

[@imnotasalad6963]

Yeah we need options to replace aethel

[@banana12216]

Is this 'we' amongst us today?

[@CancerCleric]

Make it a new legendary farmer! We need another farming pair for SoC

[@ty808SD]

Why not report DEADS in KVK properly? So Kingdoms accurately know how well their fighters actually performed.

[@lizardjesus2501]

Big W if devs actually do this

[@TJMiton]

Best face to face to date :) kinda need a speedups refund on healing too tho.

[@AzzamAbuJbara]

They promised us alot of things in the past and what they did less than 10% of what we heard about, we really have trust issue 😆

[@yuyyken3485]

when the money was flowing freely the devs ignored all the requests concerning the costs of kvk games which were astronomical. now that the competition has become very tough and their entire gaming saga is doing poorly and so players are fleeing to other games that are more equitable in terms of gameplay. dev wakes up now but it's too late the damage is already done. rok, cod, afk arena, warpath their entire game is in agony because of this voracious desire for money.

[@AzzamAbuJbara]

@@yuyyken3485 dude there’s punch of things players asked for 4-5 years ago and they just ignored or saying yes then ignored it 🤣🤣 For example the commander rest to take GH back or nerf kvk tech or increasing AP there’s no post for RoK on social media doesn’t has one of these comments 🤷🏻‍♂️🤣🤣🤣

[@labibislam6378]

This is one of the best face to face they have done. Some of the best ideas the game could implement. Maybe their scared of player leaving for other new games.😆😆😆

[@SkiGuapo]

They’re def scared of aoem. Aoem is already better than rok lol

[@deathpubgmobile777]

There should be at least one meta commander available through golden 🔑keys

[@Cyrus84]

On the question where it says the imperium line is too low and that we shouldn’t need to delete troops. I personally think that the imperium system should be about KP. the imperium system is designed to limit a kingdoms punch. But power does not represent a kingdoms strength, it’s KP. There’s tons of kingdoms with a lot of power that get put into A seed brackets that have little to no kp and they cannot compete. Same with the imperium system. This way, all the actual strongest kingdoms get limited to how many players they can bring in.

[@za-sensei2821]

Agree, KP System is better than power system

[@kylemortier3471]

I think the DKP system problem is that leaders don't want all kills and deads to count in a kvk. You only want to track important fighting. It would make it even easier to cheat or chase kills

[@Alex-yk2tf]

Maybe they could add that dkp system by filter it out, like, show which dkp is kvk related and which one is home kingdom related.

[@jacobevansarm]

​@@Alex-yk2tf still not enough, people swap kills

[@christophernelson2042]

Or feed kills from their farms. How many times have you seen a player never fight in kvk when the alliance fights, but at the end of kvk has crazy high kills and all their farms are zeroed?

[@Alex-yk2tf]

@@christophernelson2042 many. But I used to monitor that alongside the leadership.

[@christophernelson2042]

@Alex-yk2tf I was more referencing the recent person towards the top of the total kills leader board that was caught feeding from their farms: Luna.

[@denis-mf3cx]

The auto restock of passports in alliance shop is a good thing, but only if they don’t automatically use alliance credit to automatically restock the shop!

[@timwright9429]

I pretty much love every proposed change. I think they need to go further though and also make healing times less as the speedup drain is real if you fight a lot. I would also love them to give us more ap as since they brought in the armaments system a lot of ap goes towards dispatch and travels. That way we can farm barbs and forts more to gain speedups

[@motivationalquotesbest]

There should be at least one meta commander available through golden keys🔑

[@strat3g1cal41]

Excellent video Chisgule. I dramatically agree with your dramatic and passionate responses because they’re 100% the direction the developers should be taking our game toward.

[@Deehyaz]

A 3-week kvk would be awesome.

[@Media-mc8lj]

What about the new level of barbarian fort and barbarians in the soc home kingdom? Our commanders are stronger than before with armaments, commander skills and equipment.

[@fjori1077]

Yep totally agree on that. We should have barbs from 26-40 in HK once we do our first soc. And forts from 6-10. Or smth in between those numbers. Higher rss nodes in after first soc kd.

[@diogoonyt1003]

Just add a sistem of sculptures refund for the people that are returning could have meta commanders

[@Knightseditz2]

There should be at least one meta commander in golden keys

[@CancerCleric]

They should allow uou to exile players who do not contribute at all to kvk or kd participation and who WILL NOT migrate no matter how many times you zero them.

[@nickslagter88]

exile to where ? other kingdoms will do the same and you might receive them too 😂

[@OCCsAndMagenbroti]

Half of that stuff should have been implemented years ago. Vacation mode, gettting back rss and speedups for kvk, make the time between kvk at least a tiny bit interesting, etc. I quit 2 months ago and now they add all that stuff but I still hard pass on RoK. Playing a bit AoE mobile without a dollar spent and its way more entertaining then rok. Hopefully, the competition on those type of mobile game helps to improve each other instead of getting bigger pockets every time

[@AhmedAnilll]

Nice update few things missing, like making all kvk karuke stages earlier, Giving more action points in barbarian forts it will help lot to get. Crystal too, and 1 commander reset, more gems on barbarian forts like what we get from killing barbarian it will increase alliance activity too, and reduce passport cost 600k is lot

[@Sherrynomad]

Honestly there is so many aspects of the game to be improved such as Golden heads reset and as chisgule mentioned the equipment reset.

[@andiweich7071]

Get rid of the skin debuffs! What a great change! And pls give me some speeds back, or give me more speeds somehow. If you want, keep the rss, but pls, I need more speeds. With activity I can get more rss, but not really speeds, I can chain, but lilith likes to nerf chaining and chaining is just hurting my brain xD

[@bigt1699]

Individual players should have to register for kvk so if you need a break you won't get zeroed for not participating

[@avskilda]

Thanks for the fast vid. One more idea Chis, SPECIAL TALENT SHOULD BE ALL TROOPS!

[@avskilda]

Also people don’t want DKP counter in game because it makes a fun mobile game too stressful for their lifestyle.

[@mat_1he_w]

Speaking of city themes, how about some new ones in the kvk shop. It's been eons and there are so many legend skins now.

[@JoGaming93]

The pace and rss/speed up cost of kvk is fine. People are just getting lazy or bored of doing the grind. A better fix would be to have a mock battle that your kd can sign up for like ark that rewards lots of rss and speed ups during off season. just think a big ruins/alter fight. They just need more interesting and large scale brawl modes for off season

[@Horsecentstoday]

I've a hypothesis on how to increase the armaments fragments. Don't do all 8 of your possible daily armaments quests at once. Instead do em 4 at a time. Because once they refresh, they sometimes refresh a legendary piece. If you did all 8 chances, then you would have to wait till reset to use it. But if you only did 4 chances at a time. Then you would have the opportunity to use your leftover chances to do the quest before the next reset...or only use daily chances on legendary until you had to use them before reset. Bottom line..don't do all 8 daily chances at once My rok name is WILBO2

[@Natalious2001]

And also farm accounts can max their research for farming if power won't be the only basis for kvk matchmaking❤❤❤ meaning you can farm faster

[@kimkong4163]

The biggest problem is rhat Kvk shouldnt be that heavily spending bounded😢 .....the developers need to stop before to many take a look at age of empires.....

[@wurgdenjurg9364]

Now i will look at aoe

[@Pocket420]

I will only support shortening of KVKS if they balance the crystal economy so that F2P/low spend and mid spend players will still have the same amount of crystal tech researched in the shorter period of time, otherwise crystal tech becomes even more pay 2 win and you screw over 95% of your player base

[@Regulargu]

I think they should get rid of debuffs on the epic and legendary skins but keep a small debuff on the zenith skins

[@mohammadsn8677]

Great face to face but I'm worrying about leadership city themes! They become OP if no negative buff there

[@tahahasan236]

I think that adding resource refund will make a little difference only.

[@The_Crow93]

Power definitely has a major factor into it they’re lying. Look at the recent 1960 kvk the 3 camps that were against them had 2 had 4 camps one had 2, the 4’s were a bunch of 14-15b 200-500b kp kds and the one with 2 was 3060 who is a new blood 1002 with less kp than any other kingdom and their camp mate was like 3rd or 4th lowest of the 11. I guess it could just be “active” player number but that correlates with power number.

[@yuyyken3485]

when the money was flowing freely the devs ignored all the requests concerning the costs of kvk games which were astronomical. now that the competition has become very tough and their entire gaming saga is doing poorly and so players are fleeing to other games that are more equitable in terms of gameplay. dev wakes up now but it's too late the damage is already done. rok, cod, afk arena, warpath their entire game is in agony because of this voracious desire for money.

[@DarkAngel-kh9cf]

am bored with this game but just watching because I love you Chis . keep it up

[@jipieeee]

I very much disagree with the notion of moving on quickly after a lost KvK. That's when LKC gets the most toxic, which has become an integral part of Rise of Kingdoms, and is fuelling player animosities that give us drama and stories that we all love.

[@Defense89]

awesome video chisgule just hope they will implement auto hunt barbarians like AOE :D

[@cubasmike]

Competition is always good for the consumers!

[@rooney197855]

Things you say for years getting fixed suddenly as age of empires gets released .... coincidence or not. Either way better for all players

[@john2g1]

20:09 I have to be honest if my legendary materials that I already spent got refunded; I would spend a ton of gems on acquiring new blueprints. My extension I would actually spend more money on the game. Nowadays I spend almost nothing because the progression for the amount of money spent comes in single-digit even a fraction of a single percent. For my legendary special talented infantry gloves I need 30 blueprint fragments, 10 legendary stone, and 20 million gold to gain 1.5 attack? Repeat all of that to gain 400 more troops in my march? Repeat for a third time to gain 1% troop capacity? Nah, hard pass.

[@Uni0707]

Pushing epic skins stats should be a thing because numbers on legendary ones have been going up ( yes i dont have a legendary one , im gonna cry about it )

[@rockclimbingable]

Biggest problem in the whole game is having to get up at like 3:AM on a work day to participate in something for hours. Alliances should have specific time zones and only fight each other. Like, everyone can participate on a Friday afternoon b4 bed PST 🛌 😴 I just had to get up at 5:AM on a Sunday for Silk Road 💩

[@Jota7565]

True, I think they could separate the kingdoms into Asian, European and American time zones, and modify the wars and events to the specific kingdom's time zone.

[@MimiNekoNya]

The City Skin debuffs removed? Okay, that's kinda hyped for me.

[@kevinramos5188]

That’s not good

[@petterkarlsson3627]

I agree not good, and I would get 12 defense for free.

[@syafirex9884]

more buff for kraken..

[@arcana722]

I mean now zenith skin is much better

[@Mikaela_Kohai]

Be good with my Topkapi, now is straight 10% stts over 7%

[@millitrilli872]

They should add level 26-39 barbarians in soc kingdom so we could earn more rewards like speed up and resources, more rewards for recovery period more exciting kvk for us

[@killshot3970]

If they add auto peacekeeping that leaves us with who has the most amounts of AP saved up to win a honor push in kvk :/ so it no longer be about the grind but about the amount someone has saved

[@nicktech2649]

I love sleep deprived Chisgule!! 😂😂😂

[@thempenginsplay]

You've probably gotten 1000+ comments about this already, but when they said DKP, they meant Death to Kill Point ratio

[@rongray35]

The rss or speedups refunds should be based on KVK deads.

[@cubasmike]

Making the matchmaking score of each player public is kinda a double edge sword since people will try to find ways to abuse the matchmaking system. Is that good? Who knows. They could try it out

[@VGVis]

Armaments were the reason I stopped playing the game a while ago in the first place. I'm playing again, but still kind of ignore them because it's just so much and never feels worth it.

[@James-bx5mr]

Soooo, no more -10 inf defence on the cav kvk skin? No more downside to it at all 😮 Also the crystals resets for transmutation are a completely unneeded complication, just get rid of the 10 reroll limit and its problem solved. There is already a hardcap on rerolls with how many stones you can get anyways.

[@chimaera8571]

Yup get rid of the city theme debuffs, they are just annoying TBH.

[@hannahaldeguer]

how about having each player register to join KVK? with king having power to revoke or veto? this way, only those who plan to fight can go to kvk and matchmake

[@mannyfresh5185]

I know this has nothing with the video but im currently in pre KvK 1 and I’m on Mina’s last bundle, I wanna know should i expertise Minamoto ? Also I currently use Mina/Cao ( Cao 5322 ) for my main March. If I get Mehmed to 5511 should I swap Cao ?

[@carstenoelke3507]

Yes, expertise Minamoto. He is a great chavalry commander even in the later seasons, especially if you pair him with Alexander Newski. Recommended.^^ 😉🙃🙂 Mehmet is not a chavalry commander, so don't replace Cao Cao with him. But Mehmet is also a great commander for open field and siege, also even in later seasons, so I recomment to max. him out, too.^^

[@mannyfresh5185]

@@carstenoelke3507 thx 👍

[@mannyfresh5185]

@@carstenoelke3507 reason why I asked about swapping Cao for Mehemd is cuz everyone tells me Cao falls off after KvK 1. And I remember chigule Mina video were he said Mehmed was a good pairing. I know Mehmed is the type of commander you can pair with anyone so I thought he might be a good investment until I get more commanders later down the road.

[@carstenoelke3507]

@@mannyfresh5185 Cao Cao is and stay a good commander, until you get a new chavalry commander like Jeanne Prime or Saladin or Tashikan. Keep him until you have Alexander Newski ( at least 5511 ) and "Jeanne d'arc Prime". You'll do nothing wrong with that. ^^

[@jorgemarshall6868]

where's the graphic update??

[@Ffhhfhggv]

Pass openings need to be scheduled better. So aggravating to miss big fights as a night shift fighter, put them on the weekends

[@velociraptor1596]

Not even resources, I was suggesting replenishing 20% - 50% troops as well.

[@dudleysadhi6515]

So trying to zero a player you think is deadweight might actually increase their matchmaking power. Because it will show they are actively fighting?

[@kchris5326]

Would rather have a portion of speeds back then rss but anything helps

[@zeili0903]

i like the tired chisgule 😂😂❤

[@onimi5244]

LMAO you were on fire. great vid

[@Pesticide7G]

When will they do something about rogues in KvK, even if they are not selected for domain spot they tp to zone 4 and cause havoc. Wasn’t there a king skill banish supposed to be implemented? If they have a right to join KvK then send them to another lost kingdom or something. Now they add vacation slips which is good but what rogue player is going to accept this?

[@monkeyrun]

Whoever came up with DKP must be proud lol.

[@LadyBadWolf4316]

Auto barbing and auto healing in AOE…EPIC

[@Ape2489]

Noice, some great updates must be coming

[@ApolloGaming88]

ngl insane update after svip just came out

[@12bigredd]

Do only going forward nothing for what we already done or doing.... lilth at it best only when it's pushed.. and if you want a shorter kvk then they need to be cheaper and why is no one addressing the rest they done on cyrstal tech its back to it original costing.

[@ITZY.Staedt]

Really having a competitor really push you to do stuff you could've done in the past 😂

[@TheLogicalWon]

The fact that we can accurately predict which kingdoms will match vs us, and their positions on the map using nothing more than power scans proves that line about troop power having little impact is bullshit. 😂 Unless they mean building and tech power means more, which is kind of true for a zeroed T5 account to still be 53m power. 300 zeroed T5 accounts with 0 troops is still an A seed kingdom... but anywho, definitely agree on being more transparent so we don't have to be dicks and zero long time friends who fight less. 👍

[@frehzii]

Now there can be diversity in city skins, instead of seeing the same ones

[@amilcarpineda1123]

On mobile you can’t play dot mode it’s frustrating to play zoomed in always and it’s incredibly bad when you are in a murder ball.

[@korion1569]

I would like to see some mini event at start of kvk3 who gives you the oportunity to select one legendary commander for free, even if its just lvl 1 and 1/0/0/0 cause now in kvk3 are a lot of people who already have SoC commanders to fight at te first day, and (on my case) i want to pick the engenieering commanders to be main but i can't because they will avaliable like at the end of kvk, and i don't have anything better cause is a new account so i will miss every fight of the kvk because that 😢

[@galogonzalez2218]

They need to make the game more free to play friendly

[@Lor-dn1vz]

How to know a game is rapidly losing players: We're getting some of what we've asked for for years.

[@saverio957]

Why lilith dont give the possibility to reset commander they dont use for have golden head?? We can use for max commanders useful

[@RynoObey]

id like to thank AOE for pushing lilith in this direction

[@TheSanctume]

LMAO on that matchmaking ... looks like a duck transition... I get it, new baby, need more sleep! C heers.

[@watermelontheog5292]

All this but no commander reset ? A lot of us F2P made mistakes with gold heads and it would even the power gap a bit by giving us a commander reset to invest in meta commanders

[@gattyau2919]

can you make a new video on how all the servers work and a couple of tips and what not been playing for a about a month and noone really seems to want to help the new guys haha but I keep hearing KVK and I have no idea what that even is, is that a kingdom thing idk?

[@BubblesFe.2906]

When will this update be available?

[@Natalious2001]

So zenith skins will go up in value by removing city debuffs.

[@tahahasan236]

Chisgule, please also suggest this feature to lilith - "troops will march at the same speed, which will depend on the speed of the slowest march's march speed", which can actually be a good QoL when combined with autobarb.

[@welcome2stp]

we need our speed back too lol

[@texascpa]

Auto-passports in Alliance shop is going to result in all kinds of problems, including in-fighting and chaotic kingdom management.

[@cubasmike]

I agree it will happen since people who don't need them will start buying them just in case. However, it is way better than not having it

[@-Egypt-]

if the rss refund % is less than 50% then don't bother to implement it

[@Johnnyreb01]

If it's less than 25% ill quit that would be such an insult

[@PlaXer]

it can be any value and i'd like it implemented lol. but less than than 1/3 would be straight up disrespect

[@ant5454]

Yea people don't want dkp tracking in game cause they don't wanna be kicked from the kd for being dead weight lol