Choosing The Right Cable For Your Classic Console

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@SirCalalot
@SirCalalot 3 жыл бұрын
THIS is going to be one of those gold-standard videos that everyone getting into retro gaming will be linked to. Great work, Bob!
@aldizzle
@aldizzle 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Thanks Bob for all you do.
@aquarianvibe5086
@aquarianvibe5086 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Bob, this is a very helpful guide!
@PhilippeMorin123
@PhilippeMorin123 3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU SO MUCH RETRORGB! (I'm still confused as hell by RGB though... 😅)
@arcadeperfectreviews2653
@arcadeperfectreviews2653 3 жыл бұрын
Wow RF. I used it in Brooklyn growing up with my nes genesis and SNES, I remember getting a new TV with S video when I bought an N64 and using the cable with my SNES, I couldn't believe the difference and it started my journey to get the best possible picture out of my consoles
@RedWolfy7
@RedWolfy7 3 жыл бұрын
Bob is here to make everything make sense to us layman.
@knightsabre2k
@knightsabre2k 3 жыл бұрын
Being a European and having kept all my old consoles and cables from back in the day, I don't think I'll have any issues with the scart cables I have since they are all official cables purchased from brick and mortar stores from back in the day. Never even knew that there were issues with modern scart cables.
@phreeze83
@phreeze83 3 жыл бұрын
many of them are not RGB but just carry the composite and audio signals ^^ (that's why many of them are missing pins on the output)
@knightsabre2k
@knightsabre2k 3 жыл бұрын
@@phreeze83 I’ve only seen scart without all the pins on adapters, which makes sense since you would only connect composite cables into them. But honestly, the biggest use for scart back in the day was being able to connect to any European tv & have the console work automatically instead of faffing about with the channels to find the one which one it was outputting to.
@coopercummings8370
@coopercummings8370 3 жыл бұрын
@@knightsabre2k That is only really a thing on rf (or maybe some budget models so old they don't have an OSD), in the US most sets I have seen just have an input select button
@theoneanton
@theoneanton 2 жыл бұрын
@@knightsabre2k Stores like retrogamingcables make their own C-SYNC RGB SCART cables to force C-Sync on consoles that output composite sync, which is anything bar Sega
@ezioauditoredafirenze5453
@ezioauditoredafirenze5453 Жыл бұрын
Hahhah. Check out Retro Gaming Cables RGB cables. They surpass easily all of those cables which came along with those retro consoles. They even have circuit boards inside the SCART part. Used them for years now and I'm not looking back. And now with the Rad2x models which uses HDMI on retro consoles they are looking tad better and are compatible with never televisions which don't have SCART anymore.
@Sayajiin2
@Sayajiin2 3 жыл бұрын
I like how Bob presented the cable from the best to the worst. RF is the clear winner here for sure!
@beefstickswellington1203
@beefstickswellington1203 2 жыл бұрын
I was spoiled in the 90's with a 35" JVC TV with S-Video on all the consoles we bought from the SNES upward. I thought regular composite looked like a smeared mess once I got that glorious S-video cable.
@PH96Official
@PH96Official 3 жыл бұрын
No matter how many times I hear that opening I get hype!
@mikematei
@mikematei 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! 😎
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@WilhelmDriscoll
@WilhelmDriscoll 3 жыл бұрын
This is the first time I've seen anyone take the time to carefully explain the issues with CSync. I have some Luma for Sync cables that I'll keep using but I'm going to ditch the "boosted" sync cable I got for my Model 2 Genesis. Thanks for the explanation Bob!
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help! Also, if you have a soldering iron and a multimeter, you can just remove the sync stripper and add a resistor and capacitor in it's place. Check out the video linked in the description for more details.
@jdeluna777
@jdeluna777 3 жыл бұрын
Love the info here - also makes me glad I went all-in on component so I don’t have worry/think about anything 😂
@wobblingpixels3921
@wobblingpixels3921 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all your effort and hard work! PS: You picked the correct thumbnail ;-)
@Heymisterbadguy
@Heymisterbadguy 3 жыл бұрын
Lov ur videos!!
@velbyYT
@velbyYT 3 жыл бұрын
WP is a real champ
@jurradee9756
@jurradee9756 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect video for the questions i had when getting into retro/moderin gaming collecting
@atrocity3010
@atrocity3010 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, you corrected me on some things. I always thought s-video and component were roughly similar in quality, and that SCART was the end-all-be-all for video quality. I've never had a CRT with both s-video and component inputs so I could never do a direct comparison. With that said, SCART is a major pain in the butt for anyone living in North America unless you want to play on a tiny PVM, so it's good to hear that good quality RGB-to-component cables like HD Retrovision give the same video quality as SCART. That being said, if you're going the CRT route, the choice of CRT is very important, if not, arguably more important than the input method. A console hooked up with composite to a good quality Sony Trinitron will look WAY better than the same console hooked up with composite to a random lesser quality CRT.
@jengelenm
@jengelenm 3 жыл бұрын
Seen the MLiG vids 100s times, but still learned something from this video. Thanks for the efforts! Beside all this, there’s also the commodore connectors with their DIN-plugs. Also funny as a european, how America don’t know SCART, so strange it never got overseas. I also wonder where sync is on the component, gonna look that up!
@cirewillen243
@cirewillen243 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the extra info. I have purchased all necessary HD retrovision cables for my setup, but I still learned new info here. I am certainly glad I don't really need to worry about scart cable issues with all the retrotink/scaler options available for my humble collection.
@smasherjosh5000
@smasherjosh5000 Жыл бұрын
I am from England, I recently bought the Wii RGB SCART cable from Retro Gaming Cables it's the CSYNC one and works just fine on my 2 CRTs and looks fantastic very sharp, even thinking about buying their GameCube and PlayStation 2 SCART cables the latter being the GunCon variant
@RastaJediX
@RastaJediX 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking our advice on keeping the thumbnail! It's honestly perfect! And that Brinstar music is a banger. I need to check out the metal MSU-1 still.
@MarcoMazziniYT
@MarcoMazziniYT 3 жыл бұрын
Europe: our games run slower, but at least we have RGB over SCART.
@ceberuss_yt8266
@ceberuss_yt8266 3 жыл бұрын
Haha you made me smile 😊👌. Kudos from Belgium, EU
@MarcoMazziniYT
@MarcoMazziniYT 3 жыл бұрын
@@ceberuss_yt8266 You're welcome, from Italy, EU
@quibquatch3975
@quibquatch3975 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure anyone would gladly take a regular frame rate over RGB.
@CTFC-GERMANY
@CTFC-GERMANY 3 жыл бұрын
Germany: 50/60Hz mod soldering job at day one for most consoles :) RGB-SCART RULES!!!
@nowaverocker
@nowaverocker 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah your both right!Greetings from Zurich,Switzerland!
@TheSideTangentPodcast
@TheSideTangentPodcast 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. I shall continue my quest to get as many consoles outputting component as I can.
@nimrodlevy
@nimrodlevy 3 жыл бұрын
THANKS!!! FINALLY!!! Some order in this madness! I love it! Thanks for going through the trouble of doing it.
@LusRetroSource
@LusRetroSource 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! This is a very helpful guide to help me buy the cables I need.
@stevenstetka5669
@stevenstetka5669 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I was interested in understanding why discrete electrical components were needed outside the console for SCART. Your explanation made sense. So that I do not have to buy separate shielded SCART cables for each of my systems, I was thinking of building adapters. For example, a 9-pin mini DIN to SCART adapter that contained the 75 ohm resistors and 220uf caps required for the Genesis 2/32x. Plug that into the sega and then use a high quality shielded SCART cable to the upscaler. Build similar rgb adapters for each system and reuse the cable.
@dlzchaos588
@dlzchaos588 2 жыл бұрын
I think something everyone should keep in mind is that if you do not have a quality power supply/official power supply then it can introduce video interference. I had a cheap 2 in 1 power supply for my snes and it created wavy lines on the screen from top to bottom. It also created sound issues. One I got an official snes power supply then it went away.
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! I strongly recommend these for all the reasons listed: www.retrorgb.com/triad.html
@dlzchaos588
@dlzchaos588 2 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB thanks! If one of mine ever goes out then I’ll be sure to take a look at this!
@RickyMcSpanish
@RickyMcSpanish 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Bob, Love the content as always. Wonder if you would maybe consider doing a guide for beginners/noobs? You go into a lot of details about what cables etc people should use for their setups. However, the scene is getting younger and younger and I think you should maybe do a video on what you think the best option is for this user base e.g direct to flat panel from composite only plus a composite switcher as budget and then maybe option is mid-range choice either HD Retro cables or Scart Cables plus Tink2x from scart or component version etc. Maybe dare I say it.... some kind of tier list I loved the video but from the initial RF part where you stated maybe hitting it up to a VCR I doubt most of the younger scene folk have ever even seen one ha ha!
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! This is actually the first of many "getting started" videos I'll be doing. I'll also be completely redoing the "getting started" section of the website. This stuff is REALLY time consuming though, so it'll probably take the rest of the year to finish.
@RickyMcSpanish
@RickyMcSpanish 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB awesome dude thanks for the reply!
@limited.timestruggle
@limited.timestruggle 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video for people trying to get into this for real! Certainly a video that will be heavily referred to in the future! Great work man =)
@djc5166
@djc5166 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the 'composite' in CSYNC came from it being the composite of the H and V syncs? Nothing to do with actual composite video.
@Kani8122
@Kani8122 3 жыл бұрын
RGB Master Class gang represent
@SDMasterYoda
@SDMasterYoda 3 жыл бұрын
It is. I don't know why he related it to composite video.
@djc5166
@djc5166 3 жыл бұрын
​@Em K IronFist What? He is specifically talking about CSYNC and attenuation when he says this.
@FritzCopyCat
@FritzCopyCat 3 жыл бұрын
I'm honestly kinda shocked Bob got that wrong. MLiG did a better job explaining it years ago (around eight minutes in): kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnLPo5d5d8-Id7M
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 3 жыл бұрын
It's still a great visualization of what the voltage looks like: "See the cvbs signal? csync is JUST the voltage part of that, at about the same level." I'm pretty sure I said something like "maybe it's..." to show that I'm just speculating. Even if I'm 100% wrong, that wasn't the point - I needed to separate the terms "composite video as sync" and "composite sync" and I accomplished that.
@amy4291
@amy4291 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making this helpful video! 💕🙏
@HadesHotgun
@HadesHotgun 3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding content as always.
@greenmonstah8753
@greenmonstah8753 Жыл бұрын
I just buy all my cables from retro access and I know I'm good to go. I go straight from the console to rgb bnc into a pvm20m2u. No scaler, no lag, no image loss.
@djm9937
@djm9937 3 жыл бұрын
This is great. One thing i would like to see is the difference between using the really good component cables vs the cheap ones. Ive never found a good cheap OG Xbox component cable, but cheap ones for PS2 and Wii seem to be very good indeed to my eyes, tests would no doubt tell me otherwise
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 3 жыл бұрын
Good suggestion. There's just as much interference as with bad SCART cables, but the interference can often be slightly different. I'll add that to my list :)
@AceTrainerX3
@AceTrainerX3 3 жыл бұрын
Poorly made component cables (as in YPbPr) can exhibit poor green color balance with everything else. So your picture can appear more green than it should.
@justinm6392
@justinm6392 3 жыл бұрын
Bob you are awesome!
@CollinKenny
@CollinKenny 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, thanks Bob!
@Izquierda
@Izquierda 3 жыл бұрын
I know this was meant to be an introductory video and want to avoid complexity as much as possible, but when introducing RGB I think it would be very educational to clarify from the beginning that RGB and SCART are not a necessary marriage, even though it's by far the most common pairing in the retro game field. A brief mention of HD-15 ("VGA") and BNC as alternatives for delivering the same kind of RGBS signals as SCART would be very useful to start informing people of the possibility of not depending on SCART and its disadvantages to enjoy the benefits of RGB quality. Perhaps this can be a topic for its own video later :)
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 3 жыл бұрын
I literally showed composite video running through a SCART cable. Twice.
@Izquierda
@Izquierda 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB I think you replied to the wrong comment, or somehow misread mine. My comment was about non-SCART RGB cable options and that mention of this would be educational, or better yet a separate video on the topic.
@bowi1332
@bowi1332 3 жыл бұрын
That's a really cool video. Some kind of "supplemental" video for signal comparison would be nice, but that's definitely for the nerdy viewers. :)
@TeraByte38
@TeraByte38 7 ай бұрын
Thank god I live in Europe (Slovakia) where most TVs (even old CRTs) have a SCART port. 🙏
@JimieMcCutcheon
@JimieMcCutcheon 2 жыл бұрын
hoping to see you create the videos for each console still.
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 2 жыл бұрын
Me too! They're just so time consuming, it's hard to make happen :(
@jeff97ish
@jeff97ish 3 жыл бұрын
Cool video Bob!
@danilodequeiroz9520
@danilodequeiroz9520 3 жыл бұрын
I'd be nice to have a video with technical considerations when building your own cables.
@utgman
@utgman Жыл бұрын
I've just recently stumbled over your website and channel and the collection of information you have is amazing!! I learned a lot and appreciate it! BUT, as being European, I have to give you some improvement feedback: Your channel is *really* US focussed :) For us in Europe, SCART was THE thing grewing up. Saying "What the heck is this cable??" or "99% would not use SCART", is really, sorry, stupid and incorrect. Are we in Europe just 1%? I (and all my friends) have always been using real SCART cables for our SNES, PS1 and I even think also our Dreamcast, iirc. Also, I stumbled over your website trying to understand what the best scaler would be for me. And following the RGBGuide, it again really reads written for the US folks only. It took me a while to understand that if I already have SCART: I'm happy and I simply get an 2x-scart or OSSC to connect it to my hdmi display. Again, I really appreciate the work you put in and the collection of knowledge u put on the website, but we're more than1% ;)
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB Жыл бұрын
LOL, yeah, I figured I need to educate us 'mericans, cause people in Europe already get it :) Your conclusion is correct though: As long as you use a RetroTINK or OSSC and don't connect the SCART cable directly to a flat panel, you're winning. I plan on updating the whole guide this year though! ...and thanks for the kind words! I'll get better, I promise!
@utgman
@utgman Жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB Thanks dude! Keep doing this awesome stuff!!
@Cookiedon15
@Cookiedon15 3 жыл бұрын
Cool. I've been feeling out on retro gaming. I even caved and got xStation because I wanted to play games not available on PSN. I use S video for my CRT but it has those "Jail Bars." It'll do for now
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 3 жыл бұрын
If you're getting jailbars with S-Video, it means the cable you're using isn't shielded. I ran into the same issue with cheap Saturn and SNES S-Video cables. Unfortunately, I don't have a good source for PlayStation S-Video cables. Maybe try to find original Sony ones?
@KanyeWestLover12345
@KanyeWestLover12345 10 ай бұрын
Can you help me? So I’ve seen RGB cables but they look similar to component except they come with a yellow cable instead. Can I connect RGB cables to component?
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 10 ай бұрын
I don't know for sure, but those sound like RGBs RCA cable. They're sending RGB, not component, so no, that wouldn't work. You can try though...just only try for a second and if it doesn't get a proper signal, power the console off right away.
@IanNewYashaTheFinalAct
@IanNewYashaTheFinalAct 3 жыл бұрын
I would be interested in adapters that let me use two video signals at the same time from any given console. At least when I had a working CRT TV, something that allowed me to use composite video but also get S-video or RGB sourced to a scaler/line multiplier for video capture/streaming simultaneously
@theglassarrow_
@theglassarrow_ 2 жыл бұрын
Not ganna lie. Imma stick to my YRW cables. Just more uniformed over systems and using different cable types is to complex/expensive
@SolidSonicTH
@SolidSonicTH 3 жыл бұрын
Three of my SDTV consoles hooked to my CRT officially support Component. Been pondering if I should bite the bullet and upgrade the other two with a Component switch (currently only the Wii is hooked via Component, with the Xbox and PS2 using S-Video). I’ve actually got the switch already (bought it at a Goodwill, I think) but I never integrated it in any of my setups. There are probably more that do (I think the Saturn can with an aftermarket cable). Also LMAO at hooking up a system via R/F only to connect the VCR itself to a RetroTink 5X. Buying a $275 scaler to hook your system up via R/F is quite a gulf (I’m not being derogatory, disclaimer, I just find the act of doing so humorous).
@pastaroni9634
@pastaroni9634 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and sick guitars to Is that a 8 string 🤘🏻
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! One heavily modified Dave Mustaine Rust In Peace 6-strong V and one 5-string bass; The Peter Iwers (In Flames) model.
@lorensims4846
@lorensims4846 9 ай бұрын
I'm looking to build a DIN-5 to S-Video cable for my Atari 800, which outputs separate chroma and luma from its monitor port along with composite video on a separate line and audio on yet another line. This video has helped a bit but also added confusion with all that stuff about SCART. Mine is a U.S. NTSC system, so I'm really not interested in that.
@beansoup1088
@beansoup1088 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video thanks Bob
@teenx6a6e
@teenx6a6e 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, Bob! Would you happen to have a Comp Cleaner lying around? I'm dying for one.
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 3 жыл бұрын
No, but another product should be coming out soon that's even better. I'll post as soon as it's ready.
@teenx6a6e
@teenx6a6e 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB Will it work with my RGB E1S?
@wertywerrtyson5529
@wertywerrtyson5529 Жыл бұрын
Is there any way to know if your CRT is getting an RGB signal? My 14 inch PAL CRT from the early 00s says RGB but my mid to late 90s 24 inch CRT doesn’t say it. The RGB SCART works and it looks fairly clean but I’m not 100% certain if it’s using the composite signal in the SCART or if it is proper RGB. I like the larger screen though. My 7 year old daughter is playing Sonic 2 on it right now with the Mega Drive (aka Genesis in the US).
@milp00l
@milp00l Жыл бұрын
What’s the name of the music playing between 5:45 - 9:15? So familiar but I can’t place it for the life of me
@gamenual
@gamenual 8 ай бұрын
I got confused... what's the danger of using scart RGB? wanna buy fairly good Trinitron, it has s ideo and scart but not component
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 8 ай бұрын
If you buy properly built cables, there is no danger. All the ones I link to on RetroRGB.com are safe.
@itchyisvegeta
@itchyisvegeta 3 жыл бұрын
I use HD Retrovision cables for an all component setup. Absolutely love it, and I'll never go back to SCART.
@Octopilion
@Octopilion 3 жыл бұрын
I have a hard time seeing the difference between s-vid and component/RGB so i always go s-vid if possible. Its sooooo much beter then composite if your not on a crt
@gargilino6842
@gargilino6842 3 жыл бұрын
Super nice Video! But now i really want the Scart-RGB to "any of my scalers" Video!
@mrbungle589
@mrbungle589 Жыл бұрын
So i can buy a good scart cable and hook it up to my 5x-pro and my non modded ntsc snes and I'll get rgb? I figured when i got my 5x and the s video didn't work with the compsite scart adapter that there would be no way in hell that it would output rgb if it couldn't do s video.
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB Жыл бұрын
Is it a SNES Mini/Jr, or a larger original one? Also, PAL or NTSC?
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB Жыл бұрын
Also, the RT5x’s SCART port only accepts RGB or Composite, not S-Video. Did you try connecting directly ti the S-Video port?
@mrbungle589
@mrbungle589 Жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB i was just really surprised that the adapter had s video on it and it didn't work. But being able to use rgb scart so I can have 4 components hooked up to a switch and 1 rgb scart is even better. I though all scart was only for Europe.
@mrbungle589
@mrbungle589 Жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB i got 2 original ntsc snes one is a 2chip the other is 1chip 02.
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB Жыл бұрын
Okay, great news - Any of the good cables listed here will work perfect: www.retrorgb.com/snescsync.html
@andrewparke1764
@andrewparke1764 Жыл бұрын
For generation 4/5/6 consoles in North America, S-Video with a stereo CRT hits that sweet spot.
@anthonygrisi745
@anthonygrisi745 3 жыл бұрын
I have a n64, wii(I use for gamecube as well) and a ps2. I was thinking of getting 2 hd retrovision component cables for wii and ps2 as well as a retrotink 5x which comes with an s-video cable for my n64, this sounds like a good setup right?
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a GREAT setup.
@nickschultz4204
@nickschultz4204 3 жыл бұрын
I've got a csync related question about the HDretrovision cables. I know you aren't the seller or anything, but it's right up your alley. These RGB to component cables use composite for sync, but I'm curious if you could feed them 75ohm csync along the same pin and still get component out. This is for a game gear with an LCD mod. the LCD outputs RGB, but not composite. I can wire the 75ohm csync to the composite pin of a genesis2 jack if it would work. Thanks!
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is exactly what we do on the OpenMVS and the Sega Triple Bypass.
@donadz
@donadz 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@alexisaguirrevazquez7900
@alexisaguirrevazquez7900 2 жыл бұрын
6:24 Sometimes it won't show anything at all since a lot of TVs and monitors don't support 480i or 240p(PS1 games on PS2) through HDMI.
@JMLRetroRoom
@JMLRetroRoom 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: I had 5 screens in my car back in 2002 or so. One being a PS1 with the folding screen. I cut the video wire and spliced using AV splitters and cut AV cables to connect it to all my screens. Back then you couldn’t tell the video quality difference because the screens weren’t LCD, they were TFT. That was popular back then lol.
@rfmerrill
@rfmerrill 3 жыл бұрын
You didn't touch on one point with CSYNC that I stumbled across while trying to DIY scart cables: If you are running TTL CSYNC down the length of the cable and attenuating it at the SCART end, then you've replaced one interference problem with another: instead of the high-frequency chroma signal easily coupling into the RGB lines, now you have the high-*amplitude* CSYNC signal coupling into the audio lines.
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 3 жыл бұрын
While you're correct, that falls into "properly built cables". If I ever do a video on how to make your own cables, I'll go into detail about that.
@rfmerrill
@rfmerrill 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB Right, I was just saying that using csync in place of composite or luma doesn't actually eliminate the interference problem, it replaces it with another interference problem. Cables with good internal shielding don't have either problem.
@clementm9161
@clementm9161 Жыл бұрын
These days I'm setting up a Wii. It works so far but I'm using a sub par solution, which is a cheap hdmi adapter. It results in crushed colors and slight checkerboard artefacts on the pictures. The signal conversion is made through the little adapter so I don't have any latency. Well I want to change for RGB Scart but also keep it simple. As for older consoles my TV only accepts RGB Scart cables (I'm French, it was the standard here). It's a flat panel, so if I understood well, I will encounter picture latency if I wire the Scart cable directly into the TV ports. So I need to get a device that is able to convert the analog signal from the console, into a digital one to avoid such issues. What would be a good scaler for that ? And if I buy a good RGB Scart cable, will compatibility problems be a common occurrence or am I good to go ? Not looking for a perfect output but just a good one while keeping it simple. Thanks.
@chchris25
@chchris25 Жыл бұрын
Hi Bob, I recently upgraded my Component CRT to a PVM-14L2 monitor. My entire setup relies on HDRerovision Component cables. Unfortunately, L2 monitors have an issue with Componentvin where the LPF is out of phase, causing an over sharpening of the image. You can correct this issue by going into the service menu and and changing the DEC LPF to 0. But, the L2 monitor does not allow to save this setting into ram, making you constantly changing this setting every you turn ON the monitor or reset a console. The only solution I can think of is using the RetroTINK COM2RGB transcoder. But because I use HDRetrovision cables, I hate the idea of going from RGB to Component, and then back to RGB. I feel like there could be a loss of image quality going down this route. What’s your take on this and what do you recommend?
@shattered-reflection8045
@shattered-reflection8045 Жыл бұрын
@retrorgb do you have any recommended composite cables for the model 2 Genesis? I am really struggling to find a quality one to buy
@Croy4306
@Croy4306 3 жыл бұрын
Bob keeping shit real.
@DARTH-REFLUX
@DARTH-REFLUX Жыл бұрын
What brand would you suggest to purchase as an S-Video Cable for PS2? I was looking at Insurrection Industries
@TheA_Gamer554
@TheA_Gamer554 3 жыл бұрын
Good introduction video ^^ also you're still using thay weird sounding sonic 1 music lol you should get someone to record it with a triple bypass 👀
@AceTrainerX3
@AceTrainerX3 3 жыл бұрын
Or, just record from a good model 1 lol
@quibquatch3975
@quibquatch3975 3 жыл бұрын
14:50 Question: I use a PS2 scart cable I got from retrocablesuk for my PS1. There is no visible picture issues that I can tell, no brightness or color bleeding etc. However, that cable doesn't have the capacitors built into the scart cable according to retrocablesuk. At 14:50, you say it could "possibly damage scart equipment". What "scart equipment" do you mean exactly? I have 2 gscarts and a gcomp, are you saying all three of those could get damaged, the PS1 console, or my PVM or CRT, or everything I am using including other scart cables? SuperG himself said I could use the PS2 scart cable I am currently using, and there would be no damage to the gscarts or gcomp. Please clarify, I don't know anything about voltage or technical know hows and can't seem to get a straight answer on this. It would save me about $50 to not have to order a new attenuated PS1 scart cable if I can just keep using the PS2 scart cable on my PS1. Thanks!
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 3 жыл бұрын
Not having the capacitors on your PS1 cable shouldn't damage your equipment. You should be okay.
@ninetendopesaitama2107
@ninetendopesaitama2107 3 жыл бұрын
Cool new intro. :)
@christiangeorge358
@christiangeorge358 8 ай бұрын
Can you do an update video on ps1/ps2 component cables and which is the best currently? The HD retro vision cables seem to be out of manufacturing/not made anymore as of 2024. Thanks!
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 8 ай бұрын
The HD Retrovisions are still made, just temporarily out of stock. And they're still by far the best option. Amazon and Rondo links here: www.retrorgb.com/playstation2.html
@pl0aie28
@pl0aie28 4 ай бұрын
Bob, where did you get that component through scart adapter from 8:04? I need one for my xrgb-3!!
@phoenragon
@phoenragon 3 ай бұрын
RetroTink makes one to go with their 5x
@SeaSlug
@SeaSlug 3 жыл бұрын
what if needed to use RF but live in a big city ? would putting the system of scalar in a faraday cage help
@l-wook
@l-wook 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the scart cable that comes with the NESRGB kit has a sync stripper? Could not get that cable to work, ordered a more simple cable and no problems.
@themadnes5413
@themadnes5413 2 ай бұрын
Only time i remember using RF was for the Sega Master System back in 1990. After that i promised my self: never again! The console was repaired like 5 times, the rf box (?!) inside kept dying.
@theedguardian
@theedguardian 2 жыл бұрын
Would you happen to know what is the quality of those "Innovation" scart cables on eBay for the Sega Dreamcast? Are they true RGB?
@delatroy
@delatroy 2 жыл бұрын
Is there any difference in cable quality? Clarity, signal strength, sharpened, etc? Specifically im talking VGA to BNC
@alexsi361
@alexsi361 9 ай бұрын
I have a question so I want stream and make a channel playing my old vintage consoles such as nes snes n64 sega dream cat game cube original Xbox ps1 and ps2 I bought the eon GCHD Mk-II however I did not know that not all games are upscale compatible I did however find a way to force the game to run 480p but I don’t really want to do all the extra steps for it so my question is if I get the Retrotink 5x will I run into the same problem? Or will it be able to upscale every game for every console with no issues?
@bmccarty2012
@bmccarty2012 6 ай бұрын
11:27 - what's the name of the SCART to RCA composite/RCA Audio adapter you show in this shot? I have a Sega Genesis 1, and it seems like this might be the right thing to connect it to my Sony 20" CRT - which is limited to RF, and composite video/audio L&R RCA inputs. Or am I misunderstanding the requirements? Thanks!
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 6 ай бұрын
It's just a generic one from eBay. This will get audio from any SCART source, but it will only pass composite video if the RGB SCART cable uses composite video for sync.
@bmccarty2012
@bmccarty2012 6 ай бұрын
@@RetroRGB Thanks!
@nick2749
@nick2749 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Bob, thank you for the great video! I had a quick question. I have a PVM that I use a BNC to Scart cable with. The cable is Scart female. I want to buy a Scart switcher so is there a female to male Scart connector that won't interfere with the signal, or do I need to buy another BNC to Scart male cable? Thank you
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 3 жыл бұрын
You could buy another cable, or use one of these: www.retrorgb.com/open-source-scart-coupler.html I'd just choose whichever is best for your overall setup.
@Floydzabarber
@Floydzabarber 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Bob as usual. My only critique would be when you said "OCD with your electronics" as someone who suffers from OCD that is a little offensive. It's like chalking OCD up to being just super picky, which is not what OCD is like. People with OCD seem to be picky because they do things over and over not because they are picky but because they are doing it as a compulsion to temporarily alleviate anxiety. I don't usually pipe up and call people out on this, but I hear you use the OCD term a lot and it kind of bugs me each time I hear it, so I thought I would mention it. I love your channel though Bob and watch it all the time. Keep up the great work!
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry that I offended you, but you should be aware that my intent is NEVER to insult someone. I think that's the most important thing to realize - Intent. The intent of those comments is to tease people like myself who obsess over details like that, in a way that makes it lighthearted...so, people smile when they hear me say it and feel like it's okay that we both obsess over the same things. Like bonding over nerdy obsessiveness. So, respectfully, I will not change how I discuss a condition I've dealt with my entire life, because it's MY condition too. I've talked openly about mental illness and will never shy away from that, as I think it should be something people feel as comfortable talking about as a case of the sniffles. I understand if I loose you as a viewer and if you're offended enough you can try and "cancel" me like all the people on Twitter seem to do every week...but once again, I'm not going to let ANYONE make me feel afraid to talk about my own issues.
@jakeshirey7816
@jakeshirey7816 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@devraygg
@devraygg Жыл бұрын
Hey Bob, I was wondering if you could answer some questions I have about a potential signal chain that I had in mind. I want to hook up a NTSC-J N64 I have to my PAL CRT and was gonna go with S-Video. The chain would look something like N64 > Koryuu > Comp2RGB > Voultar Double Penetration > SCART to CRT and DVI to Datapath E2S. Is it ok to hook up my Japanese N64 to my PAL CRT? And is the Retrotink Comp2RGB fully compatible with PAL CRTs when it comes to sync voltage and voltage for the blanking pin?
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB Жыл бұрын
All of that stuff sounds fine, expect NTSC -> PAL. You’d need a CRT that’s compatible with both.
@devraygg
@devraygg Жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB I see. Thanks Bob!
@petros-v4w
@petros-v4w 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!! A question.. Does RGB scart cable support 576i AND 480i resolutions on PAL tvs???
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks ! The cable wouldn't determine that, it would be the source and target. But to answer your question, yes, it should.
@petros-v4w
@petros-v4w 2 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB Oh so it is a matter of which TV you have, and of course the console/game resolution (Because PAL games output at 576i, while NTSC ones at 480i). So, with most PAL TVs I think you can play both PAL and NTSC games by using an RGC cable, because it basically neglects the colour type, it kinda bypasses it if I have understood it correctly. And I think (from what I realize), that if the PAL tv has a 50 Hz refresh rate, when you play an NTSC game via RGB scart, it automatically gets to 60 Hz (from 50Hz it has as a basic rate).
@Kauteryze
@Kauteryze 3 жыл бұрын
What's the status of Sega Master System RGB? is there still jailbar problems? is the Master System ever going to look as good as analogues RGB output?
@TheSwartz
@TheSwartz 3 жыл бұрын
Almost every Console I have: 1. RGB SCART cable from retro-access.com/ -> 2. gscartsw from www.gretrostuff.com/store/gscartsw/ ---> 3. RetroTink 5X-Pro from www.retrotink.com/product-page/5x-pro
@TheSwartz
@TheSwartz 3 жыл бұрын
Exceptions: Nintendo Gamecube, Nintendo Wii, Microsoft Xbox 1. OEM YPbPr Component Cable -> 2. gscompsw from www.gretrostuff.com/store/gcompsw/ ---> 3. The same RetroTink 5X-Pro from www.retrotink.com/product-page/5x-pro
@ELHouari-Youssef1989
@ELHouari-Youssef1989 Жыл бұрын
Super Thank You Support
@techep3
@techep3 4 ай бұрын
I just wish the hd retrovision snes cable want so expensive, it's a little excessive for what it is.
@andrewjensen724
@andrewjensen724 8 ай бұрын
What is the best option for using a PS2 to play PS1 games? My flat screen TV has component inputs, but would component cables provide a sharp enough picture, or do I need a scaler as well?
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 8 ай бұрын
The best option is connecting the PS2 to a good scaler via component video cables. Here's more info: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipXJd6GIYs2CgZo ...and here's why it's probably not a good idea to connect component video directly to your flat panel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHvdf5KPfb-YsLs
@culvercat11
@culvercat11 2 жыл бұрын
If I’m playing my PS2 on a crt, is there really much of a difference between composite and component?
@millennihell
@millennihell 7 ай бұрын
Hi mate, great video. I'm in the UK and I'm trying to find a male component to female scart. I only have one RGB scart on the back of my CRT TV, but I have an AV receiver with 2 x component in and 1 x component out. So I'd like to run my old DVD player via component and my Wii via component into the AV receiver... then output via component into RGB scart in the back of the TV. Is this possible? Or do you have another option for me? Any help appreciated, cheers!
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 7 ай бұрын
Thanks. You'd want a Comp2RGB, which does a great job converting the signal: retrorgb.link/comp2rgbuk Links to all RetroTINK products are here, in case that seller is sold out: www.retrorgb.com/retrotink.html ...then you'd just need a SCART cable into the TV. Or if it's positioned correctly, a SCART Coupler: www.retrorgb.com/open-source-scart-coupler.html
@elvampe13
@elvampe13 2 жыл бұрын
6:00 What is the brand name of the converter used? I tried googling what is written on the converter hoping to find that exact one, but no luck.
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 2 жыл бұрын
They are listed here: retrorgb.link/cheapdac
@elvampe13
@elvampe13 2 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB much appreciated!
@tony714keene
@tony714keene 3 жыл бұрын
Hey there I have fluorescent backlit LCD TV & it has RCA cable hookups most rgb and one component and 2 HDMI so its half analog & other half digital. I live in 2 difference worlds hahahaha love my tv. it's SANYO tv my sanyo tv can plug in n64 component stereo grate and when the last s video cable plugged in bad jagged picture
@ghettosteeve
@ghettosteeve 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a little confusing to frame it as “scart vs component” when ones a cable and the other is a video signal. IMO people really should be pushed toward BNC until the signal reaches a scaler that requires scart
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 3 жыл бұрын
BNC cables are twice the price and would have the same safety concerns.
@Izquierda
@Izquierda 3 жыл бұрын
For me a better option than both SCART and BNC is D-Sub 15 (aka "VGA"), and that would be the ideal solution to push the community toward, but sadly it's not going to happen and people will stick to SCART, and this video unfortunately does not help to begin to demystify the common belief that RGB = SCART.
@ghettosteeve
@ghettosteeve 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB but the bnc equipment itself like crosspoints and monitors don’t have these concerns and there’s a lot less confusing variety in console to bnc cables. We are already saying “don’t buy cheap cables” so it’s at least worth a mention.
@ghettosteeve
@ghettosteeve 3 жыл бұрын
You can just do everything as bnc CSync and all you need is one single wookiewin or equivalent BNC to scart male with a resistor on sync to output to a scaler
@scottydoesntknow88
@scottydoesntknow88 4 ай бұрын
Hi Bob! For my OG Xbox, should I buy the RGC Component through SCART cable, or a modded Xbox 360 component cable, with a retrotink 5x? Thanks!
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 4 ай бұрын
I’d personally get the RGC one, as modded 360 cables have to be made by hand and lots could go wrong. Just my opinion.
@scottydoesntknow88
@scottydoesntknow88 4 ай бұрын
@@RetroRGB Thank you for your reply, your videos have been so helpful. Also, for a PAL N64, is the Consoles4You PAL S-Video Cable currently the only good option?
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 4 ай бұрын
Thanks! Without modding, yes....as long as you have the right revision. You can RGB and HDMI mod it if you'd like, but it's pretty complicated. Links to everything: www.retrorgb.com/pal-n64-s-video-cable-available-at-consoles4you.html www.retrorgb.com/n64rgbcompatible.html www.retrorgb.com/pal-n64-s-video-restore-flex-cable.html
@scottydoesntknow88
@scottydoesntknow88 4 ай бұрын
@@RetroRGB Your website is amazing, I have been lost down the rabbit hole of reddit trying to find out what works, and your website had all the answers all along. Thank you!
@johnconnor4184
@johnconnor4184 3 жыл бұрын
what if i use the retrotink 5x with the scart adapter using my composite yellow, red and white? would that get the job done? since the scart has the build in S video inside + me adding composite. enlighten me RetroRGB.
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 3 жыл бұрын
The RT5x's SCART input does not accept S-Video, only RGB and Composite.
@robertfreeman7916
@robertfreeman7916 Ай бұрын
Can anyone here offer some advice? While using Voultar RGB kit on a 1 chip SNES, do I need a HD Retrovision SNES cable? Or will a more genaric cable work?
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB Ай бұрын
Don’t use cheap, generic cables…but any one here is a good choice: www.retrorgb.com/snescsync.html
@kodim420
@kodim420 6 күн бұрын
Hi, so is putting the Wii in 480p mode, then using that cheap component to HDMI converter (at 6:10) a good, no-lag solution? If so, say my Wii has homebrew emulators too- would those be no lag as well, assuming I have a good component wire? Thanks! p.s. that also makes me curious what's the difference between the setup I just asked about, or just getting that ElectronWarp - Wii thing? Again, thanks in advance =D
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 6 күн бұрын
Yes, as long as you’re using quality component cables that’ll work fine. Putting component video through a scaler like an OSSC or RetroTINK 5x would be better, but that’s a big price difference from just the HDMI lagless converter.
@kodim420
@kodim420 4 күн бұрын
@@RetroRGB Thank you for the reply. I think I'm gonna order the HD Retrovision Wii cable right now!
@theludonarrian
@theludonarrian Жыл бұрын
You said that you would be doing videos about which cables are best for which consoles, but I can't find the videos. Are they named something different than "Best cable for SNES" etc?
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB Жыл бұрын
All of the best cables for each console are linked here: www.retrorgb.com/systems.html
@theludonarrian
@theludonarrian Жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB I figured that part out. I was just wondering what happened with the video? :)
@PhilippeMorin123
@PhilippeMorin123 3 жыл бұрын
Question : You said that 480p over component cables will look great on modern TVs using a cheap zero-lag converter... Does "modern TVs" mean "flat panels"? Also, what about games that don't support 480p but which run on a 480p console like the Wii? Do they need something better than a simple component to HDMI converter?
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 3 жыл бұрын
Yes and yes. Check out the RetroTINK Multiformat video for info on what to do with 480i signals, but 480p and up only require a cheap component to HDMI converter, like the ones linked in my Amazon store.
@PhilippeMorin123
@PhilippeMorin123 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB Thanks!
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