Choosing Violence - John Brown - US History - Part 2 - Extra History

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Жыл бұрын

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John Brown is starting an army, and he tells Frederic Douglas he's set on it. He believes slavery cannot be abolished without violence and his speech is very convincing. This would be his first step on the path to what is now called Bleeding Kansas.
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@extrahistory
@extrahistory Жыл бұрын
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@Texanprime
@Texanprime Жыл бұрын
Please do Texas revolution please extra history
@Geolaminar
@Geolaminar Жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early Harper's Ferry was intact
@theoneandonlydetraebean8286
@theoneandonlydetraebean8286 Жыл бұрын
Where did the Walpole come from? Patreon exclusive sticker
@robertjarman3703
@robertjarman3703 Жыл бұрын
The South treated their slaves like the Kim Family treats North Koreans, worse in some ways given the life expectancy. Who would say that the people of North Korea lack a right to revolution?
@haufjzo
@haufjzo Жыл бұрын
I have an request. Can you Skanderbeg also known as athlete of Christ pls? He is a great warrior who we don’t talk much about him and he defended Europe from Ottomans
@florians9949
@florians9949 Жыл бұрын
Allowing slavers to capture ‘runaway slaves’ simply by verbal claims? Man I can’t see this being abused in any way.
@jdfigs5916
@jdfigs5916 Жыл бұрын
Yeah they were asking for violence at that point
@ecurewitz
@ecurewitz Жыл бұрын
It was abused
@LEEboneisDaMan
@LEEboneisDaMan Жыл бұрын
It’s even worse than that. According to the law, legal officials involved got paid MORE if the person in question was determined to be an escaped slave than if they were determined to be a free person. There was literally a financial reason to side with the slavers…
@florians9949
@florians9949 Жыл бұрын
@@jdfigs5916 They still do today.
@panzerwolf494
@panzerwolf494 Жыл бұрын
It was, quite a bit.
@jdfigs5916
@jdfigs5916 Жыл бұрын
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable” John F Kennedy
@rutger5000
@rutger5000 Жыл бұрын
Peaceful revolution is only possible when the threat of violent revolution is clear, imminent of promise a greater disruption to established power structures as a peaceful one would.
@chetsmith8391
@chetsmith8391 Жыл бұрын
Hi Chi Minh said that you charlatan
@Leivve
@Leivve Жыл бұрын
@@chetsmith8391 No, JFK did.
@lucitheunlucky
@lucitheunlucky Жыл бұрын
​@@chetsmith8391JFK was the one who popularized it, although let's just say that he was a bit hypocritical.
@loqutor
@loqutor Жыл бұрын
Yep. That's why one of the bigger villains here was Nat Turner.
@MrPhilsterable
@MrPhilsterable Жыл бұрын
"His zeal in the cause of my race was far greater than mine - it was as the burning sun to my taper light - mine was bounded by time, his stretched away to the boundless shores of eternity. I could live for the slave, but he could die for him." From Frederick Douglas's Harper's Ferry address in 1881.
@shadowrain1024
@shadowrain1024 Жыл бұрын
That quote is an absolute banger
@youronlyfriend933
@youronlyfriend933 Жыл бұрын
@@shadowrain1024 Frederick Douglas has a lot of bangers tbh
@rparl
@rparl Жыл бұрын
I just finished Up From Slavery by Booker T Washington on Kindle. It ended before this.
@nedisahonkey
@nedisahonkey Жыл бұрын
Jesus christ, Fredrick Douglass was one of the greatest orators of all time.
@ostensiblyaverage5576
@ostensiblyaverage5576 Жыл бұрын
@@youronlyfriend933 Frederick Douglas was a banger tbh
@mindob766
@mindob766 Жыл бұрын
"Rifles donated by abolitionists churches" God has blessed us
@painvillegaming4119
@painvillegaming4119 Жыл бұрын
seems about right
@Domesthenes
@Domesthenes Жыл бұрын
Beecher's Bibles.
@edwardmcintosh7952
@edwardmcintosh7952 Жыл бұрын
I bet they blessed them too with a reading from the Book of Armaments
@MasteringJohn
@MasteringJohn Жыл бұрын
*Joshua Graham liked that*
@wraithcadmus
@wraithcadmus Жыл бұрын
@@MasteringJohn "We can't expect God to do all the work"
@CooperAATE
@CooperAATE Жыл бұрын
An actual American hero, that man.
@simonunella6330
@simonunella6330 Жыл бұрын
Hell no
@ChaoticBinary
@ChaoticBinary Жыл бұрын
hell yes
@ahmadtamimi6776
@ahmadtamimi6776 Жыл бұрын
​@@simonunella6330 dude
@OfficialAceFilms
@OfficialAceFilms Жыл бұрын
50/50 from me
@sanahirosplatoon6459
@sanahirosplatoon6459 Жыл бұрын
He is an inspiration to me
@unknownuser3926
@unknownuser3926 Жыл бұрын
No matter how bad the acts of Bleeding Kansas were, they paled in comparison to the inhuman horrors of everyday slavery. There are few acts of violence as awful as slavery ever was as I'd consider enslavement (and all that came with it) to be one of the worst acts imaginable.
@vienlacrose
@vienlacrose Жыл бұрын
Remember: the animal husbandry industry is what humans do to things that aren't human.
@whm_w8833
@whm_w8833 9 ай бұрын
Or people should have saw the horror of the Civil War when Bleeding Kansas occurred and should have made a more thoughtful and forceful debate whether slavery should be ban
@TheBathrobeWizard
@TheBathrobeWizard 5 ай бұрын
​@whm_w8833 to be fair, slavery was primarily the reason for all the Bloody KS. But it was a whirlwind of alot of chaos in KS at the time. Cattle drives, "Frontier Troubles (predators, lack of supplies, Hostile indigenous persons, lack of medical attention)" , the Kansas Nebraska act was kinda just the detonator on a pile of c4 that was already getting big because "Hey guys, I Found Free Land over here"
@JIJCrow
@JIJCrow Жыл бұрын
Extra History is teaching a South African in a village in South Africa in the Northern Province about a 19th Century American radical abolitionist,thank you ❤️
@slayden2737
@slayden2737 Жыл бұрын
That's so amazing
@secularsekai8910
@secularsekai8910 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking an interest and learning ❤
@pavan923
@pavan923 Жыл бұрын
I always wanted to visit Durban to see the Tamil community there
@CodaMission
@CodaMission Жыл бұрын
What irony, since the peaceful end of Apartheid was considered so miraculous to the 20th century. The violent revolution that should have come in America, and the peaceful reconciliation that wasn't expected to come in South Africa.
@thefirmamentalist9922
@thefirmamentalist9922 Жыл бұрын
@@CodaMission South Africa is in chaos right now.
@bthsr7113
@bthsr7113 Жыл бұрын
Violence is not a solution to be trotted out at the first inconvenience, but there are times when violence is the correct and possibly the only viable solution.
@painvillegaming4119
@painvillegaming4119 Жыл бұрын
A lot of people lack the maturity to make that call And would go gun swinging over the drop of a hate
@change6486
@change6486 Жыл бұрын
​@Pain Ville gaming A lot of people would also lack the moral courage to take that necessary step to enact controlled violence when necessary And they would sit on the sidelines indefinitely while human suffering continues unabated.
@andrewweitzman4006
@andrewweitzman4006 Жыл бұрын
"Violence is never an answer. It is, however, sometimes a question. And sometimes, the answer to it is 'yes'."
@JoshSweetvale
@JoshSweetvale Жыл бұрын
To proclaim 'violence is *never* the answer' infantilizes and disrespects the sword-shatterer, the chain-breaker, the *hero.*
@GinamosWithCherryOnTop
@GinamosWithCherryOnTop Жыл бұрын
And that is why duterte was so popular in the Philippines
@jaohonaxa
@jaohonaxa Жыл бұрын
Two points that I’m glad they’re drawing attention to. 1. John was right that emancipation by peaceful means was impossible. 2. As violent as John got it wasn’t anything more that the other side had done or was doing.
@jaredsandoy5616
@jaredsandoy5616 Жыл бұрын
I mean most other other countries abolished slavery without a war.
@jaohonaxa
@jaohonaxa Жыл бұрын
@@jaredsandoy5616 yeah, but American abolitionists had been trying that for decades by John’s time and it was looking less likely every year.
@Not_actually_a_commie
@Not_actually_a_commie Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, the institutional tension between free and slave states (which had been brewing for a long time, and over other issues) made peaceful abolition impossible in the US
@biggestboofer
@biggestboofer Жыл бұрын
Just cause you kill slightly less people and use slightly less torture does not automatically mean it is justified.
@jaredsandoy5616
@jaredsandoy5616 Жыл бұрын
@@jaohonaxa I dont see what you're basing that on. part of the reason the Fire Eaters were so paranoid was their awareness that economic and social trends were working against them.
@oscarpreuss2347
@oscarpreuss2347 Жыл бұрын
When churches donate swords and rifles to you, that’s when you know it’s about to get wild
@Jamhael1
@Jamhael1 Жыл бұрын
Well, the prayer says "God is my shepherd", and sometimes, to be a good shepherd, it is necessary to kill the wolves that threaten the peace of the flock.
@Jamhael1
@Jamhael1 Жыл бұрын
@Content_enjoyer if the "intervention" is "some people will be their rights and freedom denied because of an arbitrary belief", than the game MUST be broken by the players, developers be damned.
@pauldirc..
@pauldirc.. 11 ай бұрын
On this instance i remember famous song of django unchained from john legend "Now I am not afraid to do the Lord's work You say vengeance is his but Imma do it first I'm gonna handle my business in the name of the Law, mmh Now if he made you cry oh I gotta know If he's not ready to die, he best prepare for it My judgment's divine I'll tell you who you can call You can call You better call the police Call the coroner"
@prestonjones1653
@prestonjones1653 3 ай бұрын
[Insert Sabaton's Last Stand here]
@rnpola9408
@rnpola9408 Жыл бұрын
As a Kansan myself I'm very excited to learn more about the period of Bleeding Kansas, because it was tragically glossed over in my school when we learned about the civil war. Thank you EH for teaching what schools won't.
@shebehere2452
@shebehere2452 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for seeking out knowlage in a time where its selective.
@roberteltze4850
@roberteltze4850 Жыл бұрын
Another fellow Kansan, I've always liked the story of Henry Beecher since a junior high history teacher taught it to us about 40 years ago. Henry was a pastor in New York city and a very avid abolitionist (his sister was the famous abolitionist author Harriet Beecher Stowe, author of Uncle Tom's Cabin). Henry raised money to send members of his congregation to Kansas to help sway it to be a free state. They settled here and founded the town of Wabaunsee (about 10 miles east of Manhattan). What violence broke out in Kansas he raised money to send them a shipment of Sharps rifles. To prevent them from being seized by the border ruffians they were shipped in crates labeled "Books and Bibles". Those rifles became known as Beecher's Bibles.
@amrosh791
@amrosh791 Жыл бұрын
Part of the reason schools don't is that its a mess and hard to explain in the time you have in a school setting. The dynamic of all the people coming from out of state to fight for their opinion, and how much of it was not actually "bloody" (at least not many actual lives lost) complicates how to articulate the scenario.
@BookofFuture
@BookofFuture Жыл бұрын
A lot of history from the Civil War and Reconstruction has been glossed over. It’s sad that attempts to cover these eras have been derided as CRT or “woke” when it’s simply American history.
@stephenflint3640
@stephenflint3640 Жыл бұрын
​@roberteltze4850 Beechers bibles; not gonna lie that's pretty fuckin cold.
@justinalicea1590
@justinalicea1590 Жыл бұрын
3:33 Learning what we did in the first episode, that practically happened. Witnessing slavery as a child and the beatings people his age were given simply because they were enslaved definitely had that kind of impact on him.
@pocketheart1450
@pocketheart1450 Жыл бұрын
He was obviously deeply traumatized by watching this friend get beaten basically to death.
@mariuskaesser
@mariuskaesser Жыл бұрын
While I agree that he was not untouched by slavery, I disagree. The fact is he could walk home and had his freedom. Also he was not phisically harmed unlike the other boy. Witnessing these injustice is traumatizing but it is not as traumatizing as actually surviving them.
@jordanetherington1922
@jordanetherington1922 Жыл бұрын
​@@mariuskaesser no one said they were
@mariuskaesser
@mariuskaesser Жыл бұрын
​@@jordanetherington1922 I am sorry if I was wrong but it kinda felt like they did 🤷‍♂
@cheesypower3282
@cheesypower3282 Жыл бұрын
@@mariuskaesser Trauma isn't a competition bro- just because somebody's deep, scarring wound isn't "as bad" as somebody else's doesn't mean there isn't common ground between the two.
@thatfrenchguy-gj1fx
@thatfrenchguy-gj1fx Жыл бұрын
Rest in peace John Brow you did the right thing
@chaddoyle7719
@chaddoyle7719 Жыл бұрын
“As though his own soul had been pierced by the iron of slavery” that hit hard I hope someday someone can feel that type of way for me
@Praisethesunson
@Praisethesunson Жыл бұрын
Are you a slave?
@stevencooper4422
@stevencooper4422 Жыл бұрын
Stop focusing on the past. Find a worthwhile cause in the class struggles of today.
@Thepeanutcollector
@Thepeanutcollector 2 ай бұрын
@@stevencooper4422 “Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it.”
@weaselwolf
@weaselwolf Жыл бұрын
So when I was a kid in school we'd sing 'John brown's baby' to the tune of 'John brown's body' it was a stupid little song and dance where we'd omit a word and replace it with a gesture. We were NEVER taught the actual words, or anything about the actual man. I remember being absolutely incensed when I found out that rather than a touching ballad of a radical hero we were taught a nonsense baby song. Finding out how many of his children died of disease only makes the whole thing worse. It's not just trying to erase the real man it's also a cruel insult.
@ThatBasedGuy
@ThatBasedGuy Жыл бұрын
Violence isn’t the answer, it’s a question and the answer is “yes”
@amdreallyfast
@amdreallyfast Жыл бұрын
@8:55 Artist's prompt: "Guns. Lots of guns."
@extrahistory
@extrahistory Жыл бұрын
and swords, let's not forget the swords! .... although hard to see with all thoes guns 😂
@JonathanLundkvist
@JonathanLundkvist Жыл бұрын
The arsenal of freedom!
@ruffertorex4352
@ruffertorex4352 Жыл бұрын
For all the anit-2a peeps in the audience, please note how a private citizen is taking up arms against the Federal Government.
@joeystudios5973
@joeystudios5973 Жыл бұрын
What makes this awesome, is that in my history class we are right now learning about the Civil War and this video suddenly came up in my recommendation. Thanks for teaching me, what I needed to know.
@Zeknif1
@Zeknif1 Жыл бұрын
If at any point you develop the opinion that General Ulysses S Grant was a simple minded commander who could only fight with vast numerical superiority to simply brute force his way through his opponents, as most school issued history books coverage focuses on his Appomattox Campaign, I would recommend reading up on his Mississippi River campaign (most notably the campaign to take Vicksburg) as this is most often summarized in footnotes. Along with Stonewall Jackson’s victory in Shenandoah Valley, some of Grant’s best work in the Civil War are tirelessly dissected in war colleges around the world to this day as key features of the maneuvers remain relevant to modern warfare after all this time.
@FlaviusBelisarius-ck6uv
@FlaviusBelisarius-ck6uv Жыл бұрын
Rules and Regulations are written with blood, as is social reform. Very few major changes in society happened without there being violence because violence, sadly, is often the only thing that makes people sit up and take notice. Not to say protests and strikes have not, but the greatest changes in society only occurred after copious amounts of blood were shed. I wish it weren’t so, god do I wish it weren’t so.
@ThunderRod
@ThunderRod Жыл бұрын
War never changes.
@literalantifaterrorist4673
@literalantifaterrorist4673 Жыл бұрын
willing to bet the next 15 years in America will be like The Troubles on steroids.
@Keasarr
@Keasarr Жыл бұрын
The blood is only spilled though when those who resist change in the end take to weapons to defend the status quo. A revolution is seldom violent until the counter-revolution answers with violence. Great social change can happen though when there is enough people who refuse to help defend system of oppression, but that peace is only relative to capital means of the defenders who almost inevitably will take to weapons to hold it. It is therefore important to always advocate for peace, but arm the movement to defend itself against violence and if need be move through force instead.
@tada-kun982
@tada-kun982 Жыл бұрын
Whilst violence is at times a sad necessity, we must be careful not to embrace it lest all sense and reason be lost.
@watching7721
@watching7721 Жыл бұрын
You have to be careful with your violence though. The French Revolution, for example, lost itself in a violent revolutionary oligarchy. The violence that that pushed abolition to success was the American Civil War
@SSRT_JubyDuby8742
@SSRT_JubyDuby8742 Жыл бұрын
I love this retelling of his story, I have a great admiration for this man and the work that he did. It's very easy to judge his violence from the future with no exacting knowledge of his struggles throughout his life and name him murderer. Brave, committed and righteous. Like deployed 👍
@secularmonk5176
@secularmonk5176 Жыл бұрын
"It's very easy to judge ____ from the future with no exacting knowledge of _____"
@SSRT_JubyDuby8742
@SSRT_JubyDuby8742 Жыл бұрын
@@secularmonk5176 very clever name, I like it very much
@SSRT_JubyDuby8742
@SSRT_JubyDuby8742 Жыл бұрын
@@secularmonk5176 ...I am aware of the point that you are making, do I agree? Not 100% but it has validity. 👍
@secularmonk5176
@secularmonk5176 Жыл бұрын
@@SSRT_JubyDuby8742 We seem to be on enough of the same page to get along 😺
@secularmonk5176
@secularmonk5176 Жыл бұрын
@@SSRT_JubyDuby8742 (about my name) Thx ... the lighter side of introverted nihilism!
@sarcasticsuperjerk18
@sarcasticsuperjerk18 Жыл бұрын
It’s almost baffling people would see a man who, despite struggling in the later years of his life, would still give compassion and protection to those not even people of his own ideals would AND set out to protect his sons from actual tyranny, as a terrorist. He's a true American hero, for as violent as his approach was.
@MagdaVillafuerte-bw7dq
@MagdaVillafuerte-bw7dq Жыл бұрын
It's because there's been evil people that have used the same tactics in the past, and as such, a lot of people have problem seeing how can they be used for good. Take Mao Tse Tung for example, who used similar tactics and in the end he commited genocide and massacres against his own people.
@sarcasticsuperjerk18
@sarcasticsuperjerk18 Жыл бұрын
@@MagdaVillafuerte-bw7dq I _did_ say almost baffling.
@MagdaVillafuerte-bw7dq
@MagdaVillafuerte-bw7dq Жыл бұрын
@@sarcasticsuperjerk18 i know, but i'm just explaining that is normal for people to associate those tactics with being evil.
@sarcasticsuperjerk18
@sarcasticsuperjerk18 Жыл бұрын
@@MagdaVillafuerte-bw7dq That was rhetorical, sorry if that sounded rude or anything 😭
@SirNerdTheThird5143
@SirNerdTheThird5143 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Harriet Tubman was born in the time of Jefferson and dies in the time when Reagan was born.
@mehmeh2255
@mehmeh2255 Жыл бұрын
she died in 1913?
@pabloni1117
@pabloni1117 Жыл бұрын
​@@mehmeh2255 reagan was born in 1911. There was a period of time when both were alive
@ALLTHETIME-ALLTHETIME
@ALLTHETIME-ALLTHETIME Жыл бұрын
@@mehmeh2255 Harriet Tubman lived from 1822-1913, Jefferson died in 1826, and Regan was born in 1911, so like... kinda but barely
@l3ete1geuse
@l3ete1geuse Жыл бұрын
Dang, that's neat. I just looked it up and you're right. She was born 4 years before Jefferson died, and died when Reagan was 2.
@painvillegaming4119
@painvillegaming4119 Жыл бұрын
@@ALLTHETIME-ALLTHETIME for the 1800 damn did she live for a long time
@mostlycusimbored
@mostlycusimbored Жыл бұрын
This and US labor history is something we should really spotlight more and more.
@wolfofbs1607
@wolfofbs1607 Жыл бұрын
As a Wisconsinite, it makes me smile every time I see my state pop up in history.
@phillipj.benson9497
@phillipj.benson9497 7 ай бұрын
Sometimes I think we as a modern audience fail to appreciate how radical Brown's attitude was. Everything from openly calling for the death of slave owners (if need be), to organizing a cosmopolitan militia was unheard of in the 1850s. Dude embodied every fear that a slave owner had and he owned it so hard.
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 Жыл бұрын
His soul goes marching on! Love your videos!
@sErgEantaEgis12
@sErgEantaEgis12 Жыл бұрын
You guys should do a one-shot on Calixa Lavallée, he was a French-Canadian musician who saw minstrel shows from the US South touring what was then Lower Canada, became fascinated by the US South and eventually visited and did a complete 180 degree turn on his views about the South and became an abolitionist, enlisting in the Union Army and he was wounded in the leg and discharged after Antietam. He later ended up writing Canada's national anthem.
@_ducjk
@_ducjk Жыл бұрын
I don’t want to nitpick on this, but it’s a little weird that you chose bolt-action rifles instead of more era-accurate repeaters or breach loaders. I get it’s easier for the animators, but i wouldn’t expect Mauser bolt-actions in 1840s America
@robertjarman3703
@robertjarman3703 Жыл бұрын
Bolt actions did exist, it is not too crazy for them to have bought Dreyser needle guns.
@_ducjk
@_ducjk Жыл бұрын
@@robertjarman3703 saying something did exist doesn’t mean it was common. also, there’s no evidence needle guns were used outside of europe or were very widespread until after the events in this series
@wasneeplus
@wasneeplus Жыл бұрын
I don't even know what any of that means. How big is the chance that the animator doesn't either?
@_ducjk
@_ducjk Жыл бұрын
@@wasneeplus good point!! not everyone knows everything about everything, but history channels are history channels
@unknownuser3926
@unknownuser3926 Жыл бұрын
I think they're supposed to be Krag Jorgensen rifles, which is even more weird. Idk why they didn't just doodle a quick percussion rifle instead
@alexrudolph301
@alexrudolph301 Жыл бұрын
And bleeding Kansas still holds over 160 years later with the intense rivalry between the University of Missouri and Kansas University.
@ladymacbethofmtensk896
@ladymacbethofmtensk896 Жыл бұрын
You should do a series entirely on the Compromise of 1850, how a slaveowner President, Zachary Taylor attempted to force a crisis on the slavery issue, how he counted on the South's lack of leverage, how he died before he could play his gambit out, and how weaker men took over and immediately began making massive concessions so as to halt the crisis. Most importantly, it emboldened southern politicians to make ever louder threats of secession and civil war and led to ever more concessions that made civil war inevitable.
@xtoadsannom6704
@xtoadsannom6704 Жыл бұрын
What was the goal his gambit if he was a slaveowner ?
@ladymacbethofmtensk896
@ladymacbethofmtensk896 Жыл бұрын
@@xtoadsannom6704 There is the goal, and there is The Goal. The Goal can be reached only at the end of a chain of smaller goals, and unlike many of the Founding Fathers who owned slaves, who concentrated heavily on The Goal of ending slavery quickly, Taylor was aiming for a more modest accomplishment of curbing the institution's spread so others could chip away at it later, after he was gone. One thing that you need to remember is that the Founding Fathers who owned slaves could not actually free those slaves however much they wanted to, because they were deep in debt. To free the slaves, first the debts needed to be cleared, and then came the greater problem of what was to be done with the slaves once they were free. By 1850, the process of legal manumission had gotten much more complicated and difficult, so there were actually times that people would own slaves solely on paper, simply so that the slaves would be functionally free. If anything, we need to study Zachary Taylor more closely, because when a slaveowner was being criticized for being too aggressive against slavery, there has to be some eccentric dynamics in the slave/master relationship.
@Kaiserboo1871
@Kaiserboo1871 Жыл бұрын
@@ladymacbethofmtensk896 Interesting. So what was his plan then? What did he hope to accomplish by creating a crisis in 1850.
@ladymacbethofmtensk896
@ladymacbethofmtensk896 Жыл бұрын
@@Kaiserboo1871 You don't get it, do you? We can probably never really know, because Taylor died before he could play out that first gambit. But the point was that in 1850, something needed to be done about slavery, but the institution was too well entrenched in the South to make outright abolition possible. Slavery would have to be ended in stages. Ironically, Lincoln ended slavery in stages. First he promised not to interfere where it already existed. Then he turned the War into a war of emancipation. And later still, toward the end, he commenced enacting the Thirteenth Amendment, and the South was, by that point, so desperate, they were taking steps against slavery themselves.
@Kaiserboo1871
@Kaiserboo1871 Жыл бұрын
@@ladymacbethofmtensk896 So what was step 2 of his gambit.
@TreeHairedGingerAle
@TreeHairedGingerAle Жыл бұрын
His soul goes marching on!
@KickstandOptional
@KickstandOptional Жыл бұрын
I've never awaited one of these episodes as eagerly as this one. Here's to Part 3.
@ravinraven6913
@ravinraven6913 Жыл бұрын
John Browns life is a life a sadness and heartache....I wonder if his losses propelled him into taking a firmer, stronger stance on abolition. Like a Antz life, where the female bee wanted to help the ant, but her husband(whatever) didn't but when she died he did everything he could to help. Because it was his loves passion and he too, had to see his partners wish come true.
@trla6505
@trla6505 Жыл бұрын
Interesting perspective,ñ
@CaraTheStrange
@CaraTheStrange Жыл бұрын
Love how Fredric Douglas’s hair is drawn
@JoshSweetvale
@JoshSweetvale Жыл бұрын
Both of these men had _really_ good hair.
@erraticonteuse
@erraticonteuse Жыл бұрын
Frederick Douglass looked like a lion and I have had a crush on him for ages.
@CaraTheStrange
@CaraTheStrange Жыл бұрын
@@erraticonteuse Totally understandable, he was an attractive man. Also of course personality plays a huge role in attractiveness and being who he is clearly checks the personality box.
@MichaelCasanovaMusic
@MichaelCasanovaMusic Жыл бұрын
@@CaraTheStrange also, fun fact Frederick Douglass was the most photographed man of the 19th century
@CaraTheStrange
@CaraTheStrange Жыл бұрын
@@MichaelCasanovaMusic That certainly is a fun fact. Such magnificence deserves to be photographed as much as possible
@charlieputzel7735
@charlieputzel7735 Жыл бұрын
Alright, some minor stuff I'm sure you'll discuss in the lies episode, but I'll say something anyways. California wasn't admitted to balance out Texas, that was Iowa. California actually threw off the balance, hence why it's request for admission caused the crisis in 1850. Ultimately the balance was preserved by a gentleman's agreement to send one pro slave and one pro free senator. The actual main parts of the compromise of 1850 were 1) California comes in as a free state (though with the earlier mentioned agreement) 2) The slave trade (but not slavery itself) would be banned in D.C. 3) Texas would be reduced in size, and along with the non-California sections of the Mexican cessation shall become the New Mexico and Utah territories, which allow slavery, and 4) the fugitive slave act. Also, territories aren't states. New Mexico and Utah getting non-voting representatives is just what territories get, it's not really a part of the compromise, same with Kansas and Nebraska. Now, territories becoming organized is a step towards statehood, but it's important to make these distinctions in talking about bleeding Kansas because the whole crisis was tied up in the statehood process, as I no doubt imagine you'll have to discuss when you get to the Lecompton constitution.
@chasemcnab7610
@chasemcnab7610 Жыл бұрын
Seems to me it’s less a question of when the abolitionists should have turned to violence but when; they were up against fanatical racists who wanted to maintain slavery even if that meant lying, cheating, threatening, and straight-up doing violence against anyone that opposed their barbarity. I can see how a system so entrenched in society as slavery was would be a hard thing to phase out, but the civil war was started by the south, and all their actions made it abundantly clear they were never gonna give up slavery without a fight. Then again, violence should be avoided as a last resort, the corpses of Americans piled in the fields were the realization of the worst fears of those that advocated a peaceful end to slavery, but the question of when you should stop trying to use peaceful means to change society is a far more difficult one, and often it seems, the answer seems only clear in hindsight.
@CaptainSully101
@CaptainSully101 Жыл бұрын
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable." The South's lying, cheating and violence made a peaceful end of slavery impossible.
@thehungrylittlenihilist
@thehungrylittlenihilist Жыл бұрын
It's always "states rights" until the Northern States want to protect freed slaves.
@alexandersturnn4530
@alexandersturnn4530 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. The South only cried "States Rights!" as long as those rights favored them and Slavery.
@JoshSweetvale
@JoshSweetvale Жыл бұрын
Don't even take that filth seriously.
@siroutlaw7466
@siroutlaw7466 Жыл бұрын
5:30 Keep in mind, $1,000 from 1850 to today’s value is worth $38,355.13. That’s messed up
@Poormrworry
@Poormrworry Жыл бұрын
fugitive slave act also made it illegal for slave owners to sell their slaves without permission from their state government. so if say a wealthy northerner bought out an entire plantation to free its slaves and move them north (which was a thing that happened) now the owner was not allowed to sell the slaves.
@carkawalakhatulistiwa
@carkawalakhatulistiwa Жыл бұрын
What this free market
@Poormrworry
@Poormrworry Жыл бұрын
@@carkawalakhatulistiwa we weren’t capitalists yet
@physetermacrocephalus2209
@physetermacrocephalus2209 Жыл бұрын
@@Poormrworry By that definition we have never been capitalist. You can still have a free market and be considered a capitalist society even with regulation. Only hyper capitalists will disagree
@jankusthegreat9233
@jankusthegreat9233 Жыл бұрын
Frederick Douglas had amazing hair
@racsoleerf124
@racsoleerf124 Жыл бұрын
Thems the facts
@andrecarpenter2432
@andrecarpenter2432 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I feel like we need someone like him right now
@sarasamaletdin4574
@sarasamaletdin4574 Жыл бұрын
To do what?
@eotwkdp
@eotwkdp Жыл бұрын
@@sarasamaletdin4574probably wipe the board clean
@johnmacrae2006
@johnmacrae2006 Жыл бұрын
@@eotwkdp Meaning what?
@eotwkdp
@eotwkdp Жыл бұрын
@@johnmacrae2006 your own definition of just other chaotic horrible experience for all.
@johnmacrae2006
@johnmacrae2006 Жыл бұрын
@@eotwkdp Ya, that’s what we need.
@maxkogler1830
@maxkogler1830 Жыл бұрын
I like this man more with every episode.
@brendan5825
@brendan5825 Жыл бұрын
Western Mass Native here, love seeing some history on my area! Keep it up you guys rock!
@brendan5825
@brendan5825 Жыл бұрын
Would it be possible to get a Video on Shay's Rebellion?
@ellipse147
@ellipse147 Жыл бұрын
I am very surprised a millionaire started an experiment like that. Who was the millionaire?
@celston51
@celston51 Жыл бұрын
Gerrit Smith. His story ends tragically and is a spoiler for the Harpers Ferry raid in the next episode...
@sephirothjc
@sephirothjc Жыл бұрын
This is one of the most exciting series so far, I knew nothing of this man and in 20 minutes I'm one of his fans.
@fakechemicals
@fakechemicals Жыл бұрын
The Northern states refusal to comply with the fugitive slave law is a grievance justification the Southern state bring up in their various articles of secession. When modern "historians" tell you about "states rights" more often than not this is one of the rights that are being directly cited. The Southern states believed their right to have slaves was being denied by Northern states refusing to help them keep their slaves.
@vehx9316
@vehx9316 Жыл бұрын
So yeah right in the end it was still slavery.
@l3ete1geuse
@l3ete1geuse Жыл бұрын
We have to be willing to fight for what is right, even if it costs us our lives. Because very often, that's the only way things will change.
@painvillegaming4119
@painvillegaming4119 Жыл бұрын
Those who believe this and their goal is self-righteous are rarely ever seen as the good guys
@l3ete1geuse
@l3ete1geuse Жыл бұрын
@Pain Ville gaming "their" and "good".
@painvillegaming4119
@painvillegaming4119 Жыл бұрын
@@l3ete1geuse google traduation is a bitch
@l3ete1geuse
@l3ete1geuse Жыл бұрын
@@painvillegaming4119 Is it a requirement for ill informed people to be bad at grammar and spelling?
@biggestboofer
@biggestboofer Жыл бұрын
Ok but every person is willing to fight for something think they are fighting for what is right. Who are you to tell everyone else what is right or wrong.
@awesomedude00001
@awesomedude00001 Жыл бұрын
Most based human being ive never heard of.
@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing
@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing Жыл бұрын
Eh, I put him on the same podium as Jean Paul Jones, Ida Lewis, and that absolute unit that was the Tank Man of Tiananmen Square, who couldn't even be bothered to put down his groceries before winning a staring contest with a tank platoon.
@Handles-Suck-YouTube
@Handles-Suck-YouTube Жыл бұрын
​@@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing "What are you gonna do, run me over? Your tank will break before I do."
@bananapanda9805
@bananapanda9805 Жыл бұрын
I demand to see John Brown’s distinctive haircut and beard!
@huntersartwell8028
@huntersartwell8028 Жыл бұрын
If you ever visit North Elba NY AKA Lake Placid NY. Visit John Brown's farm, his homestead, grave, and beautiful trails throughout the woods and grasslands. Full experience is May to October. There is a shaving cup made from the gallows that John was hung on (spoiler)
@TheMasonK
@TheMasonK Жыл бұрын
“In Wisconsin it was declared unconstitutional.” *Me the Wisconsinite fist bumps air*
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, the Supreme Court overturned that decision ^^' But what happened a lot was that even if people were guilty of rescuing slaves, juries would find them non-guilty at their trials ^^
@unovasfinest2623
@unovasfinest2623 Жыл бұрын
"We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed" MLK
@ReySchultz121
@ReySchultz121 Жыл бұрын
History's biggest gigachad.
@anonymousnarwhal4323
@anonymousnarwhal4323 Жыл бұрын
Wow, I've lived in the Adirondacks my whole life and I'm so happy that I know the history of North Elba now! I had never heard about that before and I'm thrilled to learn my area was a part of John Brown's life ✊
@HamSaladtv
@HamSaladtv 9 ай бұрын
Visit the farm!
@Kaiyanwang82
@Kaiyanwang82 6 ай бұрын
"States rights to do WHAT?"
@KoreaMojo
@KoreaMojo Жыл бұрын
I've always loved him and this just makes me love him more. Argue with his methods if you want but his clarity and follow through is just right. We should all be about it like him instead of talking about it like most.
@mrgopnik5964
@mrgopnik5964 Жыл бұрын
The most ironic part is that Kansas doesn’t even have suitable climate for slave plantations
@bill2178
@bill2178 Жыл бұрын
extra history you guys are amazing always top tier videos and hilarious as well
@jusuferg9945
@jusuferg9945 Жыл бұрын
Still a hero to me. ❤
@tarrinpun3798
@tarrinpun3798 Жыл бұрын
And to many
@Emanon...
@Emanon... Жыл бұрын
History, critical thinking and media literacy have never been more important. Thank you for teaching about complex issues in a simple, fun and easily digestible format.
@aformofmatter8913
@aformofmatter8913 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't seem very complex to me Slavery is evil, those who practice it are evil, & evil can only be purged through fire & guns Any fools who try negotiating with evil only concede ground & make evil stronger -- there is no compromising with injustice
@OGJessie
@OGJessie 5 ай бұрын
you sir have the pass
@erichall7109
@erichall7109 Жыл бұрын
Bro this series is amazing keep it up guys 😁👍
@SlimyJamie
@SlimyJamie Жыл бұрын
I love the way you explain history, its fun and it has taught me a lot about history
@alex123castro
@alex123castro Жыл бұрын
I live in Springfield Mass and never knew this history. So interesting!
@falseprofit9801
@falseprofit9801 Жыл бұрын
7:56 Ah yes. Nothing says “our faction is the legitimate majority” like milling around an election site with weapons on full display.
@smkfet
@smkfet Жыл бұрын
"23 minutes ago" I have waited LONG ENOUGH
@chadsummerchild1120
@chadsummerchild1120 Жыл бұрын
This series has been Awesome! Thanks.
@dylanb265
@dylanb265 Жыл бұрын
His truth goes marching on
@JJadx
@JJadx Жыл бұрын
The art's next level in this one. nice.
@theredpandagamer7697
@theredpandagamer7697 Жыл бұрын
Great video can't wait for the next one!
@Bazookatone1
@Bazookatone1 Жыл бұрын
"Surrounding the polling places with armed men and threatened the lives of election officials", thank goodness nothing like that could EVER hapen today!
@Nyst2
@Nyst2 Жыл бұрын
What a fascinating person, who I had never heard of before until now.
@simeonmeier6984
@simeonmeier6984 Жыл бұрын
Great series as always guys. I’d like to put in a request for a series on the Texas war for independence. As a Texan, I’d love to hear y’all’s commentary on the events
@therearenoshortcuts9868
@therearenoshortcuts9868 Жыл бұрын
when you are about to be punished for something you didn't do and there is nothing you can do to stop the punishment you should do something to earn the punishment
@TroyEagan
@TroyEagan Жыл бұрын
Watching this directly after "our changing climate"s new video has me feeling a certain kind of way
@05Matz
@05Matz Жыл бұрын
Indeed.
@gallantcavalier3306
@gallantcavalier3306 Жыл бұрын
Will you mention the U.S Army’s involvement in Bleeding Kansas and include a cameo by Lieutenant J.E.B Stuart of the U.S Cavalry?
@KingofAwesomness14
@KingofAwesomness14 Жыл бұрын
the best kind of violence, violence that inspires good change in society!
@ag757
@ag757 4 ай бұрын
Your add reads are superb.
@mybunnyfuzz
@mybunnyfuzz Жыл бұрын
Loving this series. 💚
@user-cd4bx6uq1y
@user-cd4bx6uq1y Жыл бұрын
Just what I needed today
@sebastianrichter6943
@sebastianrichter6943 Жыл бұрын
Good job again
@vencent6206
@vencent6206 Жыл бұрын
This is soo good
@mix-up9003
@mix-up9003 Жыл бұрын
awesome!!!
@helpshizi2324
@helpshizi2324 Жыл бұрын
I waited for this
@coolinjam8098
@coolinjam8098 11 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@extrahistory
@extrahistory 10 ай бұрын
Thank YOU!
@LEEboneisDaMan
@LEEboneisDaMan Жыл бұрын
His truth is marching on ❤
@Lucasp110
@Lucasp110 Жыл бұрын
"oh he was a radical abolitionist o lord a terrorist" You cant be extreme enough about the evil of slavery
@applesyrupgaming
@applesyrupgaming Жыл бұрын
terrorist by technical definition, though undeniably a good dude
@mrkartoffel7418
@mrkartoffel7418 Жыл бұрын
You know what could be a interesting one of the battle of civitate l. Essentially Norman’s in Italy meaning a battle in which they heavily outnumbered and the Swabian last stand.
@saxonaloia9081
@saxonaloia9081 Жыл бұрын
I love what you guys are doing could you guys make a series about Alexander the Great and the founding of Alexandria! That would be amazing!!! Keep it up❤
@yj9032
@yj9032 Жыл бұрын
You deserve all the love in the world
@ianshaver8954
@ianshaver8954 Жыл бұрын
Violence is not the answer. It is the question, and the answer is yes.
@laurencelikestopgun
@laurencelikestopgun Жыл бұрын
".....But his soul keeps marching on!"
@waltercommunitycollege1615
@waltercommunitycollege1615 Жыл бұрын
Please do some sort of video or series on Appalachia ❤
@juliancoenen4917
@juliancoenen4917 Жыл бұрын
YOU GUYS ARE PERFECT
@timmystitch55
@timmystitch55 3 ай бұрын
8:50 they needed dad
@minieyke
@minieyke Жыл бұрын
Seeing a history of federal congress being hung over issues that the majority of citizens do not benefit from or are in agreement regarding makes me mad for some reason
@ghostleemann955
@ghostleemann955 Жыл бұрын
he gets the world record for awesomeness
@Fenrisson
@Fenrisson Жыл бұрын
Brown's my man.
@chugachuga9242
@chugachuga9242 Жыл бұрын
2:16 I see we are also time traveling here too
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