Chopin "Torrent" Etude (Op.10 No.4) - Speed limits

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[@norwalltino]

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[@Augustus_Imperator]

I grew up listening to Andrei Gavrilov's version recorded in 1987, and it is so fast and so well defined in the small little details, it always felt almost super human to me, I think he's at 92, it spoiled me so much 😀

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[@timspiano5054]

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[@waggawaggaful]

Yours is my favorite interpretation by far. Perfect articulation and clear emphasis of important notes instead of running all the notes together with the same loudness and emphasis, as often happens with a super fast tempo. I can actually hear the structure of the piece in your version. Popular versions of this on youtube from Traum, Rousseau, Kassia, etc... play it so blindingly fast that they run all the notes together without distinction and I can't make out the underlying structure and phrasing. Theirs is just a mess of notes jumbled together! Even though they have amazing technique, no doubt. But I prefer to hear all the musical details clearly.

[@worrellrobinson4332]

Congrats 🎉🎉🎉 on this Chopin fast rendition bless you loads kind regards from London Mr Worrell Robinson...

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[@letinhsong8024]

saw this on Google and came onto KZbin just to give you the “like.” This was AMAZING!!! And even though Chopin is one of my very favorite composers (“top five”), somehow i have never heard this etude before!! Many thanks!

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[@gillmahoney4742]

Its beautiful

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[@gazsilla]

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[@therainforest4314]

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[@seheyt]

The audio is magnificent. It sounds like a professional registration at many points. Was your piano retuned, and do I detect a hint of reverb on the mastering of the audio on music sections?

[@brucecrane9605]

Very nice. Magic fingers.

[@itsJhirn]

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[@carlosazambujayt]

Bravo!!!

[@jamelporter6974]

Interesting video. Bravo on the tempo challenges. You are superb no matter what tempo👏🏿‼️✊🏿💯

[@GuillermoLowe]

What a beast!

[@noraluzcalugas2731]

Danke Schoen, Wunderbar! Schnell!✨🖖🚭🎼🍿🧈🎹♀️🌌🏆

[@alainlejeune7529]

bravo !

[@shonen84]

Whenever I hear this piece, I remember “Der Sturm” from Beethoven, played by Wilhelm Kempff. His tempo was brisk, but not the fastest, and his sense of rhythm always stuck with me. Happy to discover your channel, thanks KZbin recommendations XD

[@Beethoven-nj4ne]

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[@MishaTheElder]

I find the 88 speed just perfect and your rendition seems really beautiful. Just out of curiosity: did you ever look at the Godowsky version of 10.4? :-)

[@gerardo4104]

Hahaha I know the reference and sincerely I was waiting for your response to that video!!! You did it incredible!!👏👏👏 .....ok, I just realized I'm such a nerd!!! Anyway, merry christmas Anni!!😊

[@keijorofficial]

Thank you for another video on this one! I agree, it’s soooo hard to bring the dynamics out at this tempo 😑 it gets hard not to get caught up in just the manic rush of it all, which I guess is why it’s called The Torrent Etude. Your mic sounds amazing btw!!! Whatever you’ve changed took that bright edge off your sound - or was it a hammer reset? Either way, what a gorgeous tone your piano creates (only made possible by your talent, of course).

[@renatobdacosta]

Have you seen Richter's black and white version? The tempo is so fast that we think the video is sped up, but it's not! And he keeps all the musicality perfect even with all that speed! Really impressive!

[@Seongjingoat]

It is sped up. Its obvious when u look at the way his hands fall on the keys.

[@chester6343]

Definitely sped up

[@pianoman1857]

No it’s not sped up, and now it’s been long time that everyone knows about Richter version which is slightly faster than Cziffra, are u just learning about this rn ?

[@chester6343]

@@pianoman1857 that video is sped up, it doesn't even look natural at all

[@renatobdacosta]

@@pianoman1857 I said it was not sped up because I read an article a few years ago which mentioned that. Unfortunately I can't recall the source now.

[@musicpiano4304]

It was really fun to watch😄

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Bravo❤💥💥👏

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[@windbreaker57]

I dont know how I survived this piece! I was practically breathless from one crisp note to the next. Bravissimo, Annique!

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[@Petros106]

An important fact... the pianos in Chopin's day had a MUCH lighter action enabling the pianist to play a good deal faster without strain... the modern piano makes faster tempos much more difficult if not impossible (just look at the Czerny tempo markings!)

[@DBMMMMM]

I think we will never know at which speed the old composers played. IMO everything is played way too fast nowadays, a sign of the times we live in maybe where people don't have time nor patience anymore.

[@DBMMMMM]

Yes Pianoforte instruments were built more simple, allowing faster speed but, IMO, during the beginning of the 20th century the average playing speed was raised and raised like it was a competition or some kind of show off how technically advanced they were. Vladimir Ashkenazy is a good example of this, listen to his CD recordings of Beethoven. I think he played everything 2x too fast just to show off how incredibly advanced he was which indeed, he was. But although perfectly played, i think nothing much of it did any justice to the compositions.

[@123Joack]

Actually, older pianos of Czerny time are less adept to playing fast. They lack a repetition mechanic, which reduces the possible speed drastically. Even Chopin played a piano without repetition

[@thelittlegamer6209]

Actually it depended on the manufacturer. Chopin preferred pianos with lighter action, that’s why he always played on Pleyels. Liszt preferred a heavier action, that’s why he had a Bechstein, that has keys as heavy as our pianos.

[@thenotsookayguy]

​​​​​​@@DBMMMMMExcept we have recordings of students of people like Liszt or grand pupils of Chopin. We even have recordings of Rachmaninoff playing their own works. In general, Chopin and Rach is played a decent bit faster than it is nowadays, whilst it varies more with the Liszt stuff. More lyrical Liszt works are usually played faster whilst the rest of his output is played slower. (With some exceptions for all of these)

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[@goofyahhgaming3594]

I used to play this, that middle bit is an absolute nightmare.

[@ericnaylorguitar]

I use the same overspeed idea of faster & slower speeds on guitar (just be careful not to push the speed too fast for too long as you can start getting sloppy) it's also similar to what a lot of athletes do for example martial artists will sometimes in training use weapons that are heavier then the real ones or wear weight vests or use ankle or wrist weights the idea being you take off the extra weight & the actions will feel easy & you will be faster with better endurance.

[@nickm6928]

Dont let Wim Winters see this lol. Also nice playing!

[@SuperTicklemonsters]

He reacted to one of her videos before! 😆

[@Pablo-gl9dj]

​​@@SuperTicklemonstersif you don't play like Wim, you don't play the composer's intended tempo and therefore are a terrible musician and an even worse pianist and human being. I like her tempo and her style😁

[@willemvanderroest6215]

​@@Pablo-gl9dj However, wouldn't it be an interesting experiment to play it @44 ? Just to compare the experience @88? I would love to hear it at that slower speed! 😊

[@Pablo-gl9dj]

@@willemvanderroest6215 nothing prevents you from listening to any tempo that you desire

[@willemvanderroest6215]

@@Pablo-gl9dj Sure you are right, and i did; I stated my point not clearly enough. I meant for her to play it at that slow speed to hear her evaluation about that experience. 😉

[@davidjoshua]

Great work! :) [oh... and the 88 tempo sounds great. Not workin' on any Chopin at the moment. Still trying to get Wonderwall down. haha]

[@townnet]

9:51 You are right! That's why I play this at 10bpm.

[@faccc]

I’m confused

[@townnet]

@@faccc I guess she edit and cut off the end part of video. She say that you practice slow can become faster.

[@sullivanlekemo7342]

I'm practicing Gloria 12th mass by Mozart. Great video too

[@chamber1]

I am in the middle of learning this piece and... I want to cry. Its technically playable and even easier than most pieces but for me but I find it very hard to phrase it properly like in 2:45-2:49. Rip my pinky

[@ibrahimismail5625]

That intro was like the teacher trying to hang out with the cool kids

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[@Quotenwagnerianer]

I think this is a typical case of the Metronome Markings, while being what the composer wanted, have to always take into account the pianist and the instrument. You can bet that the Erard's of Chopin's time would be more reactive, than modern grands.

[@carlosgalvan6990]

Eres una excelente pianista y además muy guapa 🥰

[@viktorilles9249]

Your interpretation is very crispy " I like it a lot ..👏🏻☺️ I play 75 ( exactly as fast as Jan Lisiecky) and want to get up to 80 because I like is little faster.... Wish me luck 🤞🏻

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you play so well 🤭 and off topic but ur hair is luscious like it looks GOOD

[@tagadawa8599]

wow you play extremely well 🤩 I too would love to play as well as you. I know it has nothing to do with your video but Currently I'm working on Beethoven's "Monlight Sonata" (3rd movement) and I can't get into rhythm, go at the original speed and when I play the sound is not clean. I wonder if I don't have enough level (5 years of piano) or I'm not working correctly. Do you have any advice on how to resolve this problem? thanks in advance

[@jonasvitkauskas8042]

I love your microphone here. It really catches piano sound really nicelt. What is the name of it?

[@chrisalluna6733]

A torrent of fingers, yes! You're so funny😊

[@Beesno]

Pretty sure the 9:28 "woooo!!! [Maniacal laughter]" is how this is meant to be played. 🤣

[@H4EA]

yeah

[@carlhopkinson]

The "fast" winner is undoubtedly Richter. He plays it so fast it looks like a cartoon.

[@robertorosario4052]

Terrible awesome

[@demooisteNAAM]

Und ich dachte, ich hätte das Overspeeden selbst erfunden! Mit meinen Klavierstundenten habe ich auch einmal 'ne Overspeedingsübung gemacht. Eine Schülerin die sich zuerst nur sicher fühlte rund 60, fühlte sich nach der Übung am besten bei. . . .172! 🙉 👌

[@toostickyy3171]

You should do a 1 hour 10 min challenge to winter vivaldi

[@digiworldmedia]

How did you mic your piano? It sounds great. (your playing is spectacular by the way.)

[@magicyandereaxe]

I used this logic for learning Schubert's impromptu's😅❤

[@ProtomanZ]

Ending it by saying it wasn't that fast. What a way to flex.

[@user-we5mi6zl2s]

I loved you both playing Kalkbrenner's concerto in d minor on the double Pleyel piano. Did he influence Chopin?

[@Dr._Spamy]

And now in slow motion !

[@matyasbluegrass]

I do pretty much same strategy when practicing guitar solos (we are talking around 115BPM+ 😀) Playing overspeed makes me super comfortable in final tempo :D Also sometimes bored and I want overspeed back :D

[@kunalex4236]

It’s important to note that 88 tempo is in alla breve. The final tempo is actually 176

[@matyasbluegrass]

@@kunalex4236 ye sure I know, no worries ;)

[@TravisMcGee151]

Damn woman you are good.

[@Apex_Piano]

Pls do a reality check for op 10 no 12!!! I’ve recently played it, but the tempo marking is completely insane, so I play it a little bit slower. I know that it’s easier than op 10 no 1 and 4, but a fast piece nevertheless. Thanks and love the vids!

[@russian-canadianfamily6895]

My teacher said I haven’t a chance at perfecting the Revolutionary(I already learned it but can’t play it well), yet Torrent is a perfect fit for me🧚‍♀️

[@Ryuuuuuk]

How do you record your home piano, really impressive.

[@meline69]

I like you !

[@tomval1331]

Beware the incoming wim winters reaction video

[@xhenimane5114]

You are gorgeous❤

[@johncotta8288]

When you’re in Leipzig, stop in at the Blüthner factory and play that on a Blüthner!! 🎉

[@erggish]

Tempo is important for an etude though... otherwise you might be losing the point of the etude's practice... For a musical piece it's ok to have variations...

[@scott2500]

I think this is roughly the tempo Traum plays it at or faster but then again he’s Sung Chang

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[@PorconautaGames]

Cuteness as always :B

[@imagod4796]

Sehr gut, jetzt Richters Tempo!

[@youtune2819]

[@leandrechardon2268]

Wim Winters has left the chat

[@renesperb]

Compare with the recording of S. Richter who plays it very fast , but it's not necessarily more beautiful to listen to.I think the way you play it is very good.

[@vbda12]

The more fast is Sviatoslav Richter, he is very fast in this etude

[@PianistStefanBoetel]

You should do a collab with cult leader Wim Winters 😂

[@lakep7798]

Please, how long did you practice on this piece, from your very first practice session to performance-ready?

[@winterheat]

it is more chaotic than Rush E. So Etude 10, 3 is to leave home. Then Etude 10, 4 is chaos

[@ludicroussealanimations3643]

try this with 25 6, the tempo is insane 😂

[@utvpoop]

Is it a Wim Winters diss?

[@johnschlesinger2009]

Vladimir Horowitz played it slower, and it was more exciting due to the exceptional clarity and incisiveness, in my opinion.

[@robertorosario4052]

Can I see the recital by youtube?

[@numberoneolive2464]

Omggg i heard Kungfuo instead of Con Fuoco🤣🤣🤣

[@ruseng7216]

This is Richter's tempo.

[@asoby5470]

more like torment etude