'Chopping It Up': Taylor Schabusiness Laughs Through Friend’s Odd Testimony In Beheaded Lover Trial

Alexander “AJ” Gannon, a friend of Taylor Schabusiness and Shad Thyrion, testified in court Tuesday. Gannon openly admitted that he has “mental problems” and provided odd, distracting, and confusing testimony about how he knew Schabusiness and Thyrion. He said he, Schabusiness, and Thyrion would often “chop it up” - which he claims meant chat. Schabusiness is on trial for the murder of Thyrion - she’s accused of strangling him to death then dismembering his body.
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[@LePetitChatNoir79]

I’m glad he said, “chopping it up”. It might have been inappropriate, but Taylor’s reaction, destroyed her insanity defense.

[@Dr.EdwardKevorkian]

F A C T

[@Katman718]

Yes, she should have been drooling picking her nose and staring off into space

[@Sweetnopalito]

It seems pretty insane to me.

[@stuartmiller7419]

She's done.

[@ElementUup511]

did you see the way he grinned and had to hold back a laugh and not look at her?

[@ChantingInTheDark]

The fact she started laughing and then tried to hide it proves she's mentally aware of what's happening. She KNOWS it's inappropriate.

[@honluncheung374]

She's re-living it in her head. The Sociopath.

[@michelemahon141]

She’s actually enjoying herself. Her credibility is destroyed…as if she ever really had any to begin with.

[@joelsommer5765]

No, their defense is not that shes insane right now. Her defense is that she was legally insane when she commited the crime cause of the crystal meth binge. Actually insane and legally insane are two different things.

[@blake-nw4pd]

She is going to prison to die. No death penalty. The trial is just to meet her rights to a speedy trial.

[@ChantingInTheDark]

@@joelsommer5765 - I missed the part where it was only temp insanity during the crime. But the lack of remorse also proves she doesn't think she did anything wrong.

[@cherylmyke1693]

Asking a witness who is a bit bizarre if he thinks someone else is bizarre is bizarre

[@kathykb8123]

What a bizarre comment. 😁

[@thats_right_mofo]

😂😂😂

[@cadavher]

How bizarre how bizarre 🎶

[@mrs.spicer]

It’s a lot of weird folks who all hang out together

[@deborah3250]

sanest comment in the thread. 🏆

[@kevinschindele4829]

These were the kids you purposely avoided in highschool for sure.

[@maryamali3347]

lol

[@MerryWidow420]

When AJ mentions "chopping it up" Shabusiness thinks his horrible choice of words is hilarious. She gets it right away. I hope that if the jury is at all worried about her competence and ability to understand what she did, that they look back on that moment.

[@jd43tv56]

Sanhedrin 57a: “When a Jew murders a gentile (“Cuthean”), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.” Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal." Sanhedrin 90a: "Those who read the New Testament ("uncanonical books") will have no portion in the world to come." Sanhedrin 105ab: "Jesus fornicated with his jackass."

[@Eyephonestories]

Facts

[@FleagleSangria]

Well, I mean, you do have to admit its an odd choice of words to use "chopping it up" I mean if shes going to laugh at anything, that would be the time. I mean this lady is so depraved that her perspective is another dimension of evil. One in which its like "whats the big deal, he was uglt anyway" or something to that affect. Her reality is the upside down. Demonic. Thats the result of a godless society sitting in that chair as she allowed herself to become further and further down a path of madness and drugfueled pure disregard or an ability to recognize good from evil. Her conscience is gone. Whats wrong is right to her.

[@kayray7598]

Exactly !!!! The fact that she understood the irony in that statement just shows she is competent and alert and aware …

[@Walter_Sobchak_43]

Oh, good catch!

[@mikkibubble4711]

Looks like the accused is often having a hard time to refrain from laughing out loud. Utterly despicable.

[@jacquelinedirk]

Agree😢

[@deshundillard1337]

its like this isn't justice she seems happy and unbothered... she gets to still live and smirk.. this country justice system is a joke

[@dawnkincaid5845]

Agree totally disgusting

[@lookilou5682]

It was the chopping up phrase that cracked her up.

[@acpliego]

@@deshundillard1337hat’s wrong about the justice system in this case and trial in your opinion?

[@SayWHAT314]

This is not mental illness this is EVIL. She takes pleasure in what she’s done. If they hadn’t caught her she would definitely do this again. She was fully aware of what she did she even tried to clean up the evidence. The constant smirking I’ve been seeing her do is disturbing.

[@chosen_remnant]

Sorry, but leaving a head in a bucket and chunks of flesh on the ground is not "trying to clean up evidence".

[@soundmind6477]

Demon possession

[@Raquel-kk3cd]

Yep. She's evil and demonic

[@Raquel-kk3cd]

​@@chosen_remnantShe only didn't get rid of the head cause she said she forgot to. She was too high to remember to dispose of it. She still ATTEMPTED to hide some evidence.

[@gina9832]

Demon

[@Bow-j6c]

Who ever shares a cell with her will want to keep one eye open

[@GetToDaChoppa-k5r]

she shouldn't be allowed to share a cell. She should be locked in solitary forever.

[@bajacowgirl3170]

"I'm good with dates, just not the past five ten years". These people are brilliant.

[@marcusreilly1011]

I could not believe that answer . Painful to watch if that's supposed to be your friend

[@thegreencat9947]

I'm good with dates, just not the past 5 minutes...😁

[@josephbeaman9191]

What year was the magna Carta signed sir? Constitution? Sir what day is 420 on sir? Uh night time

[@rebecca75588]

Hey it's none of schabusiness!!!!

[@anarchist2398]

I can’t imagine the weird stuff this group of friends would talk about in a room together or should I say chopping it up

[@debunkthejunk1]

No sympathies for this woman, but "chopping it up" is the absolute worst euphemism you could possible use in this moment.

[@GuyFromTheSouth]

Ive never even heard that phrase wtf

[@melissabaliva2989]

Ikr😮?!?!

[@Jake-vh6jp]

He's saying it as it is. Calm down Karen.

[@debunkthejunk1]

@@melissabaliva2989 He comes off a bit on the spectrum. He can't read a room.

[@melissabaliva2989]

@@GuyFromTheSouth me either!!!

[@13orrax]

i hope when police first started asking her questions she answered "thats none of your schabusiness"

[@BarekHalfhand]

I think she did use that line in the police interview.

[@user-di8hm2jl2u]

All these people with “mental problems” hanging out is scary.

[@hdcent6390]

Definitely...Especially when you add drugs to the equation! 😮

[@pootypump7440]

​@@hdcent6390yeah. I'm not at all surprised though.

[@rebbyy95]

who else weirdos gonna chill with if not with other weirdos?

[@zombiegeekboy]

If you’ve been to where they are from… it’s a large part of the reason

[@waningpoetic]

⁠@@zombiegeekboywhat is it about Green Bay that makes people weird

[@UndeadLavender]

This guy was so eager to start being questioned and then almost immediately has a hard time remembering dates and even completing a full thought. Then proceeds to tell the court that he has a lot of mental problems. Probably not the best person to have on the stand ... geez

[@missdidi8671]

He has a fried brain. Useless witness. Not helping at all.

[@BobbiGail]

EXACTLY what I was thinking. Who wanted him as a witness? It made this portion of the trial just bananas.

[@t2thepisha]

He’s baked!

[@K_Riss1]

I think he's on the spectrum. Or something is off mentally. The defense really wanted him to say he's known her since hs and she use to normal but now is insane. Especially while on drugs. However despite his somewhat abnormal mental status he's not evil and he's not as easily led and hasn't helped them by saying that. The defense misjudged how useful he'd be. He's just a bit socially awkward and a little behind his peers in compression. If he's the best they had in character witnesses they've failed. Nothing is going to stick her but that's the point of lawyers to try and often to try to spin the truth or the story.

[@SndyOr]

I think he is the fall guy, how sad for him

[@kayray7598]

Soooo about the “Chopping it up” reference .. That reaction right there - her laughing at that- shows she is alert and aware enough to understand the irony in those words he chose to use. She is clear headed and if I was on that jury that is all I would need to see

[@Cat_herders]

Well, it was funny…

[@Shushus-cz9lk]

Lol I didn’t even catch the irony in that lmfao

[@traviscoates6878]

Duh

[@alexcarter2461]

You don't know that for certain....

[@replenisher11]

You are correct. The other comments are actually worrisome

[@TimSchmidt_art]

"Chopping it up" is literally the worst choice of words for this trial.

[@thetruth1140]

Judge: what were you doing over there? Dude: we were chopping it up 😂😂😂

[@emilyheather328]

He seems like he's a shy person and he probably meant no harm just a horrible choice of words. I bet he felt bad after he said it

[@Romulan2469]

Well that's an admission of guilt right there when he was helping with the unfinished Schabusiness.

[@a44489]

Subliminal messaging

[@chrishepp4429]

this guy did something come on man he help or something my opinion though.

[@ericasherry2185]

This poor guy doesn’t know whether he’s coming or going

[@merrybluegirl8930]

A little too much wacky tobaccii.🌱

[@dannysigurdson7108]

Hahahaha I'm stealing that expression

[@ChristopherHedum-js8eg]

He already left and he isnt even aware he gone.

[@ericasherry2185]

@@ChristopherHedum-js8eg haha!!

[@Celmar0806]

Its so disgusting and disturbing how she has a smurk on her face pretty much the whole time

[@bobp6742]

She's wanting to get off as mentally unfit.

[@Carl_McMelvin]

It’s not a smirk. Why do all of you people think it’s a smirk? It’s clearly not.

[@davidca96]

KZbin is probably ok with it, they only censor certain people.

[@nathangonzales2641]

Right over your heads

[@jacquelinedirk]

​@TheodoreDonaldKerabatsos she is suppressing her laughter 😮😢omg

[@thewizard-oq3hg]

This girl is pure evil she's not insane.

[@lizannezisa436]

Pure demonic. I'm in shock for real

[@chadreynolds108]

she needs an exorcism

[@thewizard-oq3hg]

@@lizannezisa436 yea especially when her friend refers to they were chopping it up which means hang out she laughs cus that's basically what she did to that poor guy and is probably going to be smirking during the whole trial I think she's either demon possessed a witch or satanic maybe even all three a person who's crazy doesn't behave like that.

[@lizannezisa436]

@@thewizard-oq3hg I immediately said, yup she demonic or whatever. Sge gonna get needle. What you think

[@Sweetnopalito]

Those two things go hand in hand.

[@AP12360]

This witness is horrible. Why would they even put him on the stand.

[@jon590]

Because he was with both of them before Shad was murdered. His testimony helps to determine a time line of the events leading up to the murder. It also shows the frame of mind that Taylor and Shad were in leading up to the murder.

[@kaycep6819]

@@jon590he was so bad he doesn’t really help the timeline at all. He couldn’t even speak straight and acknowledged he “was good with dates except the last 5 or 10 years.” Terrible witness

[@SndyOr]

@@jon590 he can't even form a time line except when he was choppin it up with some friends one night. He is HER puppet and she makes hand gestures to him in court

[@BigTandJC]

Did you pick up Shad? which part? what? yes.

[@phogettaboutyu]

He does drugs

[@FindMeOnABeach]

What a train wreck! How is this whole group of people SO nuts?!?

[@Rozwell007]

Misfits attract misfits.

[@christinablair1978]

People like her are the exact REASON why the death penalty was created, the world is not safe with her in it.

[@BrookeWinter82]

We don't have it. Unfortunately.

[@christinablair1978]

@seasonofthewitch2331 I know and that is very unfortunate!

[@everythingmeansnothing4019]

​​@@christinablair1978your gun laws are really fabulous aswell aren't they ? The worlds not safe for pretty much any life on it with humans, not just crimes from humans against humans . Would you not agree?

[@John-ww2bf]

She is hot unlike you

[@christinablair1978]

@@everythingmeansnothing4019 I said what I had to say, not here to debate...

[@sorormimm493]

This woman has lived HARD! She’s 25, looks 40 with wrinkles and so many gray hairs. Perhaps a testament for those to stay away from folks who are already choosing the wrong lifestyle.

[@loonapoona731]

Shes 25?!!

[@RealTalkAlexV]

Yeah that’s honestly insane she looks 40-50 100%

[@realpocahontas1776]

Agreed 100% I thought she was an older woman at first, scary 😮

[@John-ww2bf]

I think she is pretty 🤩

[@sloedwn7509]

@@John-ww2bfyou should share that needle with her..

[@michaelritter7608]

How in the world does this dude get through life

[@msursa]

Adderall.

[@Rozwell007]

@@msursa😂😂😂

[@Jojo3sworld]

Had the same question for you

[@saunch09]

I'm still very confused as to why tf they put him on the stand. Useless and confusing testimony.

[@Blissful.1]

Definitely a gerbil on the wheel 🙃

[@JAYBODDY]

This may be the worst person ever to put on a witness stand. He said chopping it up, twice, openly saying he has mental health issues mixed with being belligerently drunk. When the lawyer ask, how did you pick up Chad? “What do you mean !🤨” His reaction is very suspect. Definitely a strange group of friends.

[@wyuls]

They’re all drug addicts bro. It’s obvious.

[@syipxx]

Yes is Odd 😅

[@StephenAnimations]

Just cause someone's awkward doesn't mean they're suspicious

[@brett8460]

Idk, I think his use of the phrase "chopping it up" was a good idea. Was it inappropriate? Yes, but Taylor's reaction to it completely wrecked her insanity defense. It proves that she knew exactly what she was doing. She understood the irony of "chopping it up" which is why she started laughing.

[@jaes1812]

You gotta cut people slack. Nerves and all that will have people acting awkward and fumbling words. Also it's probably hard to remember things so long ago

[@Choochill]

These people live in a different world.

[@Kaniala-l7s]

Yeah, the meth world is a whole different dimension.

[@Signal_in_the_noise]

Tweakers live in a different, dark reality. Not sleeping does insane things to the human mind.

[@dubsounds]

@@Signal_in_the_noise Hey twerking is hard work. Why don't you mind Schabusiness?

[@lunaumbra]

She's extremely dangerous. Devoid of all normal human responses to a situation and crime as heinous as this. A natural born killer.

[@cowboytwink]

People can’t be evil. If their actions and behavior seem “evil”, look at their mental state and substance use. It doesn’t excuse what she did, but we have to be realistic. I’m curious if there were signs of her being unwell that friends/family ignored or overlooked.

[@travisabr1294]

😂

[@eazy2hate]

Extremely dangerous? Lmao

[@mikepalmer2219]

@@cowboytwinkyour delusional and making excuses for monsters.

[@John-ww2bf]

Send her to my bedroom

[@mrsellenj.a1740]

She isn't crazy, she understands what she has done, death sentence end of story

[@stephaniekinney5030]

Only thing is we don't have a death penalty in Wisconsin

[@daniely6282]

Unfortunately no death penalty in that state I don't think

[@mrsellenj.a1740]

@@stephaniekinney5030 I think they need to reconsider

[@mrsellenj.a1740]

@@daniely6282 what a shame

[@richardh3540]

These people are perfect poster child for NOT taking drugs.

[@EtsySpellcaster-fy3sl]

Nah, drugs are cool, loser. Lol. Imagine never trying drugs.

[@EtsySpellcaster-fy3sl]

Nah, drugs are cool, loser. Lol. Imagine never trying drugs.

[@tiffanydearmon]

Or for swallowing

[@Rozwell007]

@@tiffanydearmonyuuuuhhhhhh. Spitters are quitters!

[@industrynews9076]

“Choppin it up” is a crazy statement knowing what happened.

[@bavros1998]

She is definitely one of the worst individuals I have ever seen in court. That behaviour is just disgusting apart from the horrific crime that's seldom heard of.

[@JohnSegerclucka]

Leslie Van Houten and the 2 other Manson girls laughed, sang and delighted themselves whilst being tried for murder

[@bavros1998]

@@JohnSegerclucka Agree - but that was a cult, there were no personal relationships. Makes a difference, no?

[@katieannsutphen4264]

He should have used different words then chopping it up

[@hautehussey]

She was probably laughing because of what happened when they were hanging out.

[@Iamhermajesty9]

This is absolutely nothing new or exceptional. There are plenty of horrible murderers and serial killers pictured smiling in court, stories of them taunting and provoking family members and fiends of victims and all sorts of other antics. So no she is not exceptionally evil or bad compared to other evil bad people .

[@ethan.wroblewski]

Scary to think they’re people out there like her, stay safe everyone!

[@Big_Chico]

There’s people far worse than her out there

[@Goozo612]

Yes, there are lots of despicable people out there who slaughter and chop up other mammals in their billions every year and you are complicit in these henous crimes if you eat meat 🤡🙄🥱

[@elizabethd8147]

The fact that she's trying to cover her laughter shows she is aware it's inappropriate. As disgusting and barbaric as it is, it's a huge plus for the prosecution and it really hurts any insanity defense they might try. She's pure evil but she's a sane pure evil.

[@user-tl8dq4cu8c]

@@Big_Chico nah

[@katarinahinsey3931]

Avoid drug addicts period.

[@voxmerus]

Well, this guy was a bad idea. Then again, it proves she’s not insane because she laughed at the appropriate times

[@kelsthegreat1596]

Agreed

[@Pozorrogo]

Yep as a jury member her laugh at that choice of phrase (which im sure he was so nervous and horrified he didnt realize) She showed her true colors in that moment. None of this is funny, and it shouldnt be funny especially to the woman who is on trial right now.

[@sonjarutkowsky4140]

Agree 💯

[@AC-Ninja]

Lol yup

[@Romulan2469]

She thought that was pretty hilarious!

[@MrsOx-jz9fg]

I don't get how the judge doesn't call her out for laughing or smiling n smirking..

[@twinlems1232]

Sometimes they let it go to allow the jury to make up their own mind about the defendant...

[@ImCallingFromSpringfield]

The fact she is trying to hide her laugh shows she is not crazy as she knows she should not be laughing. She knows the difference between right and wrong. She is just evil

[@thetechgenie7374]

She definitely pure evil.

[@Audrina444]

I worked in a home with adults that had developmental disabilities aka mental illness and I had a client that reminded me very much of Taylor. She would bust out laughing randomly. She was my favorite client because her humor brought some kind of joy to my very depressing and very boring job. That client would try to hide that she was laughing. I’d always try to get it out of her what made her laugh and most of the time it didn’t make much sense. But she did try to hide that she was laughing and she was indeed, “crazy”.

[@joelsommer5765]

Theyre not claiming she doesnt know right from wrong. Theyre saying she was legally insane at the time of the crime because of the crystal meth binge. Legally insane means something completely different in the eyes of the law than our normal definition of insane.

[@anglomik]

Said the expert.

[@mandawilson7050]

So you think someone in their right mind is capable of this? Pretty sure she is psychotic and crazy! Wtf

[@nattamused9074]

“We we’re just hangin out, choppin’ it up, like we always do.” And she starts laughing. What a monster.

[@melissab1725]

TAYLOR SEEMS TO BE VERY PROUD OF COMMITTING THE HORRIFIC GRUESOME DISMEMBERING OF HER FRIEND! This woman isn’t insane or mental. She knew exactly what she did!! Give her the needle 💉

[@minzahhh1]

Why the needle when the eletric chair is still available in the USA??

[@sonjarutkowsky4140]

No Death Penalty in Wisconsin !

[@shortcake5472]

💯Straight up psycho

[@babycaleb7835]

Green Bay doesn’t have the death penalty she’s in my state Wisconsin and this happened where I lived

[@babycaleb7835]

She may go to the insane asylum they have here basically with all the other looney bins in there that are crazy

[@TechnicJunglist]

MONSTROUS. Even her hero buddy Dahmer didn't act like this in a courtroom. Absolute filth.

[@psyphersoda]

She deadass is laughing at his mental problems too. He's obviously struggling a lot with remembering and wording, and she's just making fun of him.

[@goodtogo2876]

Me too

[@sdlboston2947]

She is one of the oldest looking 25-year-olds I've ever seen. Scary.

[@Calbear707trees]

This guy is literally the one dude in the movie who no matter the setting- speaks like a “stoner.” A grown man this man. Interesting crowd.

[@sonjarutkowsky4140]

Yes I agree 👍

[@G4RY1159]

I'm taking a guess he's done a lot of LSD over the years

[@yo.leroy777]

Not as good as the Ezra Mccandless crowd...yet.

[@uptownqtee40]

In the beginning, I believe he said he has mental illness.

[@FabiolaRVela]

Stoners come in all ages just in case you didn’t know… 😅

[@oliviaedwards2267]

Her laughing at him shows me that she is a bully. She deserves everything coming to her!!!

[@SoulDelSol]

Ya she laughs at him being a little runt

[@IndependantMind168]

A bully? She appeared to simply be laughing at a friends choice of words. I'm not defending that woman for what she did. I'm opposed to your self perceived mind reading capability and lack of empathetic imagination.

[@cmcc3721]

I wouldn't be so sure he isn't aware of how inappropriate his "chopping it up" descriptor is. Some people just enjoy being uncouth with a dead pan face, with no consideration for who they may be offending.

[@jenniferhoy6406]

@@cmcc3721 totally agree! he knew what he was saying. Seems like he was trying not to laugh as he said it.

[@brianwaller2022]

Be civil and respectful? 😆 🤣 😂 GTFOH! HELLS COMING!

[@ramonbriones4487]

Shad did not "pass away" he was brutally murdered and beheaded

[@Whydoweneedhandlesagain]

I mean… after all that he passed though.

[@ForeverYoung20092]

Passing away means the person is dead.

[@NotMorganFreeman.]

@@ForeverYoung20092 Yeah they know that. They mean that using the phrase "pass away" is typically used when someone dies peacefully. This guy did not.

[@ForeverYoung20092]

@@NotMorganFreeman. I have always used passed away as meaning death. If you look up the definition it’s an interchangeable term. I guess we all use words differently

[@PurpleGraves]

She's laughing because he said we were chilling and chopping it up and she's like I was literally chopping it up

[@alybrekhus7182]

No way any jury is going to belive her after all the laughing. She isn't mentally disturbed she's EVIL. JUSTICE IS COMING ⚖️⚖️⚖️⚖️

[@FayoThinks]

Being from Green Bay, this lady has been such a stain on our community. Her lack of empathy throughout all this has been apparent.

[@2321Chargers]

SO IS BRETT FAVRE MIS USING FUNDS FROM THE STATE. LOCK ALL THESE FREAKS UP

[@Louis275]

Lady?? She's barely human and a stain on humanity!!!

[@lennarthagen3638]

Stain? Thats disgusting i hate stains. RIP Green Bay.

[@VIPK9]

I lived near her its so creepy and went to the same schools also

[@DoobieDeb]

Waste of time and money and she needs the 💺💺💺💺💺💺💺💺💺💺💺💺

[@josh7718]

This guy is making himself look guilty. “Chopping it up” definitely could’ve used any other saying in this scenario.

[@j.goebbels2134]

This dude's ability to say large words is almost as impressive as his inability to make them fit into the context he wants.

[@oscarcom4539]

Lmfao

[@tess2896]

like when he said he was "belligerently drinking"😅

[@comradeweedity1648]

He's nervous, stfu.

[@TheRainbowGal]

Honestly, his nerves are probably shot. Imagine the amount of stress you would endure having to testify for something like this? The fear of “what if” they get out and come get you? The trauma of someone you’ve known since you were a child successfully hiding their true intentions right in front of you for 15ish years? Poor guy. Sending him all the healing.

[@j.goebbels2134]

@@TheRainbowGal nerves and his brain cells

[@dayinthelifeofmycat]

It's like pulling teeth to get an answer out of this witness.

[@terra2805]

What a bunch of absolute fruit loops!!! She is utterly despicable though. Only someone who has evil inside them is capable of doing what she did. She is sick and a danger to all. She should never be let out. Ever.

[@rn4l62]

💯

[@OrangeDiamond33]

I think we should give her another chance

[@paulabrown6840]

AJ is doing a great job.

[@burntorangefan23]

Fruit loops I like that. Going to start saying that lol

[@Carl_McMelvin]

“I have a lot of mental problems and I can’t remember” No dude, you smoked your mind away. 😂

[@davejohn2204]

AJ is obviously mentally ill. i know a lot of people like him with the work i do. leave AJ alone

[@rebecca75588]

yep garden variety tweeker

[@davejohn2204]

@@rebecca75588 schizophrenic, actually

[@SeeEdRun]

Not one tax dollar should be spent prolonging her existence.

[@sashasorensen5945]

Death penalty cost more actually

[@jerryherrin458]

"I'm good with dates, just not within, like, um, the past like 5 or 10 years..." LOL. Can't believe the prosecution called Cheech as a witness.

[@Heybadson]

😂😂good one!

[@PBJELLYx2]

Hahahahha best line ever

[@np526]

No remorse is what I see. She's not insane. She's not psychopathic. She is evil and has no remorse for what she's done.

[@toothpaste100rat5]

No one asked

[@masondegaulle5731]

You basically described a psychopath, then stated she's not a psychopath.

[@sarahdixon6011]

Psychopaths are evil.

[@thismachinekillsfascists1138]

Ofcourse she would associate with sordid undesirables. Who has these porous curry oozing poonans as friends?

[@thismachinekillsfascists1138]

​@@sarahdixon6011Evil connotes theology, and religion is mythology. Don't be so weak.

[@kelliebilinski]

A woman with no conscience. She makes my skin crawl. I hope she goes to jail for life without parole.

[@merucrypoison296]

Ngl I also laughed at him saying chopping it up, that’s like saying hey guys I’m shooting it up with jfk rn

[@billiejeancoyle7728]

I hope she never makes it to her cell

[@trevizolga]

Gannon: "I'm pretty good with dates, just not recently... the past 5, 10 years." **deep sigh** 😕

[@Bsavvy-tg2bl]

They look so old for 25

[@mininjas]

Seriously. I was just about to say that. I'm only a few years older but could pass as early 20s. These guys look at least mid- to late-30s

[@richvillicana8205]

Drugs and alcohol. There isn't much to do otherwise in that part of Wisconsin

[@TahoeBlue12]

I know people who are 40 who look younger than these bozos 😂

[@wtfsalommy3250]

Livin Hard, drinking,smoking and or drugs,..

[@Apache32D]

Drugs will do that to ya

[@KingPici]

This guy is so lost he is making me think he is an accomplice 😂

[@Romulan2469]

Meth Ghandi probably was an accomplice! He's not the sharpest knife in the drawer though! 😂

[@lovebeatrice7218]

😭😂 too funny. But I think he has a disability of some sort

[@Romulan2469]

@@lovebeatrice7218 Just chillin', choppin' it up, like we always do! Yeah sounds like this guy has been cleaning up after SCHABUSINESS handiwork more than once!

[@codreaming9304]

The fact that he said “chopping it up” TWICE…..especially after he saw her laughing….leads me to believe he was amused by it as well. He got a kick out of using that phrase. He just made it up for the sole purpose of getting a rise out of her, the jury, the judge, and the lawyers. Oh, and anyone watching the trial.

[@Hellfire0204]

Exactly what I was thinking, he seems suspicious. At 7:23 he said that he “saw nothing that night” almost like he’s trying to distance himself from being there even though the prosecutor never implied he had anything to do with it….

[@MondaysMakeMeVomit]

He didn’t make it up, it’s a common term of phrase. Whether he intentionally used it to get a rise out of her is another story but he didn’t make that term up.

[@freethinkingmua5475]

@mondaysmakemevomit Duh numb skull but the fact he said this twice lmfao and knew she laughed the first time

[@codreaming9304]

@@MondaysMakeMeVomit Well, I’m much older than him 😂….so, there’s that! Thanks for the “clarification”….

[@MondaysMakeMeVomit]

@@codreaming9304 after watching the whole video, I do think he did that crap on purpose tho. Especially once he said he _”cuts ppl out of his life”_ while making chopping gestures with his hand. And he smirked for that one and kinda gave the game away. Extremely, extremely creepy.

[@CC12398]

Poor guy, decides to reach out to Old Friends after avoiding people and then this happens:-(

[@kareybarey13]

OOOOOOH MY FREAKING GOD, he has to be the worst witness in the history of trials. How does he live on his own??? Good gawd. So unaware. Poor thing he says chopping it up not once, but twice in a dismemberment trial.

[@jinx6444]

It’s called autism not weird

[@kareybarey13]

@@jinx6444 I said what I said.

[@Queen_-gg5jn]

Hes not a bad witness, he struggles like myself to explain verbally, he did mention he has issues, hes a good witness x

[@legaleeblonde4310]

So much for mentally incompetent at the time of the murder. She is very well aware of what she did, and she actually gets a kick out of this whole trial, apparently.

[@av8054]

This girl is the Face of EVIL. No Remorse no emotion just plain Evil!! Stop wasting our taxpayers money and get rid of the Evil already!!’ Prayers for the Family and the Mother that lost her son to an awful crime🙏🏻

[@brendamorton9506]

This A.J. testifying is comedic gold!!! He has no idea where he even is! This is your brain on drugs, kids!

[@ricsim78]

I do not know what is in the water up there, but I do know that neither of these people seem to take this serious. The fact he used the term, "Chopping it up" after what happened, this is disgusting to observe! He seems like he purposely used that euphemism due to what happened to Shad Thyrion, prompting her to laugh. She is certainly sick, but think this guy is not firing on all cylinders, either!

[@megzzzz1077]

I think it was pure oblivion to using that phrase. He’s definitely not all there

[@ricsim78]

@@megzzzz1077 It almost sounds like they all planned this. You would think the demeanor of someone who found out a friend died horribly and the killer was a friend as well would cause this guy to be sad. Instead, it seems like he has not a care in the world and even finds it amusing. Where do these people come from? Truly disturbing.

[@marcusreilly1011]

Seems like it was at least talked about

[@jomassey4207]

This guy gives me the creeps. It's like him and this vile woman, had something going on.....and she's smirking because of it. There doesn't seem to be any morals with these people. I think their brains have been fried by too many drugs.

[@mistyflores7778]

When he used the term"we were chopping it up", she couldn't refrain from laughing, she had to pretend to drink water to stop from laughing out loud. That's horrible,, because in her mind when he said that, she had visions of her chopping up her lover's head. That's a true monster with no remorse for what she did.

[@peekaboots01]

I think he said it on purpose. I mean who really uses that phrase, and in an instance such as this?? They were all loser friends yet they couldn't care less that Shad lost his young life. At the end he totally nods to her. He'd probably get with her and take his chances with death he's so thirsty.

[@costaldevomito]

That cup seemed empty too

[@athmaid]

That phrase exists, he didn't make it up. As for him using it, either he didn't think about it or (what I find more plausible) is that he wanted to see how she would react. Maybe he had a feeling she would laugh, showing how cold he is. I don't think there was any malice involved from his side

[@mistyflores7778]

@@athmaid that's kind of the feeling I also got from him,, he was trying to get a laugh out of her, showing he's still her friend regardless, more than likely it's a phrase they use all the time in that group. However now there's a whole new meaning to the phrase for them. No malice from him just an inside friend thing between the two and he more than likely would take his chances with her even considering.

[@TheSlb1984]

The absolute worst witness that ever did live. Who decided to put him on the stand?!? Was he prepped?!? OMG! 😩

[@vinsam4220]

Don't hate the player hate the game.

[@SndyOr]

yes he was , he will probably take the fall

[@Romulan2469]

I would want this witness at every trial. This dude is a trip, funny and high AF! 😂😂😂

[@TheSlb1984]

@@Romulan2469 I was wondering if he was high or special needs…I suppose he could be both 😩

[@Romulan2469]

@@TheSlb1984 No idea. I think he’s probably a drug addict which has screwed up his cognitive skills.

[@LottieOfWales]

it’s painful to listen to this witness

[@karaashcraft6097]

Guilty, or guilt by reason of insanity does not matter at this point. This 25 year old not only looks older, but understands everything that is being said in front of her. She needs to be kept away from the public, at least, until she gets the help she needs and will not be coddled by anyone in her family. She has shown zero remorse. I cannot even help my husband with his prescribed medication. I could never grasp dismembering another human being. Adding to that how long it took, and her actions after. She remembers, and laughs about it. She has also lashed out other times. She should not be around others.

[@patriciaflores2776]

I agree she does know what's happening and remember's.

[@denny414]

Ive finally realized the insanity plea isn't as bad and lenient as people make it seem,it's not a get out of jail free card,all they do is treat you until the meds make you competent to go on trial and if you don't take your meds and stay insane you're institutionalized for life no matter what she pleas she's gonna die in a tiny room

[@ArtbyKurtisEdwards]

"This 25 year old not only looks older, but...." pretty much means I stopped right there. Should have no bearing on forming your opinion.

[@jacquelinesnowden8174]

Omg shes 25!!!!😳😳😳

[@buamedia8520]

OMG besides my dude acting like a NPC on the stand😂. OMG baby Girl you and my kind of crazy. I know the ***** CRAZY 🤪

[@lauriemorris8533]

she is a dangerous woman, life in prison without parole should be her sentencing.

[@robotaholic]

She's beyond dangerous. She's deadly. And yes murder is horrible but dismemberment is on a whole other level.

[@AdoptedPoo]

@@robotaholic she will murder someone in prison

[@le_th_]

Her parents need to be imprisoned along with her for raising and creating the socipathic monster that she is.

[@Littleofthisandthatt]

Do they not have a death penalty in her state?

[@KL-tz3cm]

@@Littleofthisandthattif they do then she qualifies!

[@SIGINT007]

The state knew EXACTLY what they were doing by putting this guy on the stand. Well played 😂

[@Noahthegreat02]

Wdym ?

[@BubblesSong]

This dude definitely munched an edible before testifying !!

[@MelissaSmith-tp6lh]

Disgusting this is a waste of tax payers money. She did and she said she did lock her away and throw away the key. She is just sitting there with a smerk on her face. Feel sorry for the family she devastated. She is a sick evil person

[@Trapmint]

Time stamp? Not watching 20 min of this

[@divalicious4888]

​@Plutogalaxy ew shut up. Dont talk about someone hating the constitution when it has been CLEAR since that woman attacked her own defense attorney she did it. She mutalated another person, but you are worried about someone hating the constitution? Youre just as bad as that smirk on that nasty womans face.

[@warpedweirdo]

@@Trapmint No time stamp. I think her admissions were made to the police, not in court.

[@warpedweirdo]

She could have plead guilty, but she didn't. This is U.S. justice so she gets a trial, like it or not. This is fair. This is the way a justice system should work. Otherwise, police would just coerce a confession, make the person stand in front of the wall out back, and...

[@baghousetechnician9815]

@Taketheshot74 not everyone with ASPD is dangerous

[@colormebrave2231]

her behavior in court is abhorrent

[@Pat6670]

That whole crowd was pure trash.

[@Kaniala-l7s]

Facts!

[@laurarowe8590]

Honestly, yeah. Sad to say but Shad was an unemployed addict with no aspirations, surrounding himself with scumbag filth, as most addicts do. Unfortunately he paid for his addiction with his life. Drug addicts, especially meth users, are bottom of the barrel type humans in society with extremely low odds of “recovery” or sobriety. They contribute only an enormous strain on tax payers and productive members of society.

[@youvandal411vm]

The entire city of Green Bay is trash.

[@EtsySpellcaster-fy3sl]

@laurarowe8590 Yeah, like you’re any better. Judging by your ignorant comment, you’re not.

[@EtsySpellcaster-fy3sl]

@laurarowe8590 Yeah, like you’re any better. Judging by your ignorant comment, you’re not.

[@NotoriousEmu]

Unlike Letecia Stauch, who tried to look insane, Taylors reactions struck me as legit. Her smirking and laughing to herself when one of the witnesses was discussing how she drained the blood from Shad after beheading him. Like she stated, she liked it. This woman is evil.

[@bigtex4058]

The poor jurors. Hauled away from their lives for this.

[@nrg8787]

Shut up, bigot.

[@jimfritz2087]

Just asking. Have you ever been on a jury ? You don't get to pick the case .

[@tracyminajjjj]

@@jimfritz2087he wasn’t implying that u do

[@tracyminajjjj]

They vet people before deciding if ur fit for jury duty.. So just remember people if ur ever chosen and u don’t wanna do it, just show them that u aren’t fit to do so lol (there are many ways to achieve this, personally I’d just act as if I have a blatant disdain for the justice system and hate judges, district attourney’s, cops etc.)

[@FabiolaRVela]

@@jimfritz2087how is this relevant to the og comment ??

[@axim08]

I feel for her attorney. He’s got his work set out for him.

[@le_th_]

If he is a public defender, yes, I feel for him. If he's a criminal attorney, NOPE. He chose that particular field because he's entirely driven by greed and has no moral compass whatsoever (read: psychopath), and it's the most lucrative field of law to be in.

[@schmeesmclaren1570]

@@le_th_ She doesn't have a criminal attorney, shes broke af.

[@EtsySpellcaster-fy3sl]

@leth2753 Someone has to do it, it’s not immoral whatsoever.

[@Flowerpower10]

He volunteered. It’s his job. And he’s a lost cause. He’s searching for a technicality so hard that every witness begins with “ inwas wearing ppe, I had on gloves, I didn’t touch anything” because rises his go too first question. He’s got nothing.

[@valerie2827]

@Flowerpower10 Uhm. What?

[@Stray..]

Her Lawyer doesn’t seem to have a plan, and I’m happy about it.

[@poker2663]

He turns every question into a big story. Yes or no. He has to go into nonsense

[@candykane4271]

That’s called choppin it up

[@christinepark1219]

Because he's trying to cover up his own involvement?

[@sherireedy329]

I missed this Live portion earlier but heard about it in chat. Seeing it is a whole other ballgame!!! She couldn’t even compose herself from laughing!! What a sick, twisted individual!! She is completely aware of what she did and is enjoying this attention in a sick way!!! I honestly don’t think he meant those choice of words. He did say he had some type of mental illness. Still a very poor choice of words 😢 Justice for Shad and his family!!

[@janinepyke4643]

Apart from this woman being a despicable human being, this guys testimony was painful to watch..he's endless.

[@jennlullaby6195]

His choice of words are kinda sus too like did he help her dismemeber a body? The 2nd time he said it seemed intentional and smirky

[@raymondpeters9157]

​@@jennlullaby6195 EXACTLY what I thought. I mean why use THOSE words?? Real sus if you ask me.

[@paulog8813]

I think he was high.

[@biguncle554]

His brain is fried from weed lol

[@Vespyr_]

I've never heard the term chopping it up as a term to mean to chill. Ever. That isn't normal slang.

[@johnnywalker4857]

Considering what she went on to do, the atty made sure to clarify with AJ the meaning of 'chopping it up.'

[@OTOss8]

When I hear about people being in an open relationship, these are the sort of people I picture in my head.

[@whodat7084]

😂😂😂 same

[@Trey-nb8pg]

Yep

[@craig5222]

Confirmed. It’s nothing like the porns made it out to be 😔

[@mmatheos1]

Chopping it up , probably not the best way to describe hanging out in this particular case 😅

[@JJ-xx2fw]

😅

[@jen_gem]

Right? Caught me off guard

[@thepearlswirl]

no seriously😅 I felt so bad for the people who don't know what that saying/phrase means

[@Kaniala-l7s]

Dead @$$ I never hear of that saying before

[@JohnSmith-ef2sx]

That's why she's laughing. It would be funny if none of it was real. Woman is demented.

[@kevo8121]

This witness????? Doesn't know what day it is, how did they call him?

[@beachz101]

I know, right? My guess is he would pass a pee test.

[@singlewhitefemale1707]

NEVER in my 30 years in a courtroom have I seen such disrespect from witnesses, defendants and others. It's almost like this is a joke to them. Back in the 90's, you didn't see witnesses in street clothes, you didn't see defendants laughing at testimony, you didn't see Lawyers disrespecting each other either. To see this woman laughing and giggling is disgusting. Just as disgusting as Melly acted in his trial, just as bad as Leticia Stouch in hers. This isn't a joke. This is their LIFE at stake. I can't imagine what they find so funny in a Court of Law in a murder trial......

[@matttilley8620]

The guy's brain has been fried from drugs. He's basically become a vegetable. Get with the times!

[@cabraonropes5622]

Melly isn’t even bad at all, I’ve seen worse than her for instance that one guy who said he is happy what happened to a family is the worst thing I’ve ever seen

[@godsfatheramen]

We weren’t able to see anything , KZbin wasn’t a thing until 2005😊

[@RobertELee420]

all meth head losers

[@AC-mp7cx]

are you single

[@cherylmiller1970]

This was the hardest one to get through, this testimony by him was so confusing to me..took forever for him to get out a dang sentence with all of the "like, like, like"...drove me crazy

[@Travis-b9z]

She thanked her friend at 17:44 makes me wonder if he is involved somehow

[@unforeseeninsight]

I’m really worried for our youth and all their mental health issues-real or self professed. I mean this dude said “chop it up” so casually, referring to simply hanging out. Dude! Read the room! You’re literally in a murder trial where the victim was literally chopped up. Get a f-in clue, bro.

[@QueenBee-kx3sg]

In his defense “chopping it up” is a fairly common phrase for hanging out and goofing around. Completely inappropriate in this context but a valid phrase.

[@LPgmxDan]

@@QueenBee-kx3sg never heard it but still if he uses it often it's fine sort of a mistake in reading the atmosphere

[@aday9159]

I agree

[@mlucand75]

I thought the same thing, you are in a court of law, get it together and act like an adult. The lives of all the people around this woman and the victim are disheartening. As a society we are failing young people.

[@SFB221]

Yep, terrible choice of words. Common sense would say word it another way, considering the situation.

[@jennydiver100]

Who ARE these people!?!?

[@tampazeke4587]

This guy has just about burned out all of his circuits. "Chopping it up" was a very poor choice of words.

[@fancypants7706]

It would be great if the prosecutors, defense lawyer and judge could all figure out how to use their microphones.

[@keastland]

She is evil personified. I get the same feeling when I look at her as I did when I first heard and read about Charles Manson.

[@EtsySpellcaster-fy3sl]

Charles Manson never killed anyone, let alone put someone’s head in a bucket.

[@theresahaines2647]

She has the personality of the devil.

[@andyroo3022]

She didn't only cut her friend into pieces she did some really weird messed up things with his body. She moved the body from the bed after she beheaded him to the shower and cut up all the rest. To have placed him in numerous bags and locations. She did all this with a bread knife and some other knives. This would not be an easy task, requiring considerable strength over a long period of time. Shabussiness is all kinds of messed up.

[@rebeccamangelsdorf3806]

She looked up Jeffery Dahmer. I budding cannibal is what she is!

[@andyroo3022]

@@k8lemonade I reckon.FBI FBI FBI ALERT ALERT ALERT

[@lydibug51]

METH WILL GIVE YA SUPER HUMAN STRENGTH...DONT DO DRUGS.

[@pancakemacbuttery9142]

@@TheKonga88nigga what

[@John-ww2bf]

She was 🥵

[@carolsanders3979]

She is definitely an evil person. You could see it in her face. When she’s looking straight ahead, you could see it in her eyes. She has that very evil demeanor about her and sometimes you don’t see that in people, but watching this clip over and over I could see definitely she is not at all mental or psycho. She’s just evil and what she did was an evil act and she thinks it’s funny because that’s what the devil is. Devil loves torture and thinks everything’s funny..

[@tappodisughero2260]

I thought the same things. The eyes of a demon

[@roxannslavik1948]

Related to Charles Manson???? Inherited that evil look.

[@allynzita]

Yes!! Thank you i thought exact same thing its very very spiritual i almost feel as if she is possessed

[@tappodisughero2260]

@@allynzita if you search for possessed people on you tube, it will come out a video of a girl from a Muslim country possessed by a "jinn" a demonic spirit. It looks so much like her I'm frightened...

[@beaterstang0898]

@@tappodisughero2260 There’s definitely more going on with her than what meets the eye.

[@withy40]

Oh she was definitely "chopping it up". The judge should've stopped the court and addressed her disgusting behavior.

[@masondegaulle5731]

Not the judges job to help either side, and she wasn't interrupting proceedings. If she wants to damage her own case, that's on her.

[@depletable]

Because YOU know what a judge should do or not.

[@doodlebug36]

This guy acts like guys I knew in high school who had totally fried their minds out on hallucinogens and other drugs.

[@MissAmanderLee]

Surprised she hasn't been warned or thrown in contempt. You can't be laughing like this in court. It obviously won't look good for her from a jury standpoint, but I wish the judge would nip it in the bud because it is beyond disrespectful.

[@THELOVEOFMYLIFE89]

Now a days seems like the judges dont do there job

[@wondertwin13]

She (Taylor) doesn’t give aff 😢 They need to just do away with her.

[@rosekuntz8165]

I am relieved the demons inside other are unable to contain themselves. I am happy evil is showing its true face. I have had enough of people getting off from horrific murders.

[@hithere4719]

I realized this is a homicide trial just under 18 months after arrest. She is already getting roasted, so the judge is probably just keeping everything moving.

[@realpocahontas1776]

And her little “finger guns” shooting the judge was pretty crazy, can’t believe she wasn’t held in contempt for that

[@jewelk2021]

People commonly say, chop it up, he probably didn’t think about it

[@kellyholcomb3850]

He thought about it enough to say it twice!! Like get off the stand spiccoli!!!!! You remind me of our current President!!! 😢......NOT SORRY

[@Artchick1972]

Never heard anyone say that

[@blackanesebeats]

@@Artchick1972that’s used commonly out in the New England for sure. Idk about other places but I know it’s said a lot there.