Prosecuting attorney completes questioning of Norton Shores woman accused of torturing, killing son

[@chopsuey8888]

Repeatedly calling her dead son "deceitful and sneaky." She cannot hide her hate for him at all as she tries to paint herself as innocent.

[@Melissadacruzz]

She really thinks that was an excuse to treat him like she did. What a sick evil woman.

[@gingerlundgren-barron3594]

She’s very analytical.. and detached

[@LaurenWoz421]

Yes I noticed this! She SPAT it out of her mouth “he WAS sneaky!” With pure hatred in her face. She probably blames him for where she is now and his own death.

[@bellebiteme]

Couldnt have said it better! Absolutely disgusting

[@KeepinItRealTv]

Exactly she’s disgusting

[@samanthaschwartz2316]

She remembers everything her son did wrong, but nothing that she did. Totally believable.

[@Niko-xz5lk]

So true

[@PlAiNJaNe521]

🎯

[@pl1763]

She studied law. She wasn’t going to admit directly to anything. It’s like that song It Wasn’t Me even if you see it with your own eyes.

[@Konekohime22]

Facts!! Didn’t even think about that

[@kelli7]

Totally cruel and sadistic

[@AmirahJoy]

“You don’t have to take my word for it, let’s play the video”. and “So you admit he didn’t have access to the refrigerator and freezer?” “He was on a hunger strike but you put locks on the refrigerator, freezer and pantry?” This prosecutor is outstanding! He helped her walk into traps of her own making.

[@dicephalousss]

i love when he calls her out for magically forgetting and also “chicken nuggets are pre-cooked” when she tried to play “he could’ve killed himself eating frozen chicken nuggets” B***H PLEASE

[@deborahcooper9085]

He was very crafty handling this very evil woman. RIP Timothy.

[@warialdasue]

Agree

[@jcr5543]

He was so genuine as well, when he asked her “how long was he in the tub?” She had no answer. I don’t understand this woman, how could she do this? When my daughter was born I was swaddling her and she had tons of onesies under her pjs. And I woke up when she wanted to eat immediately! I wrote everything down. Even though her days and nights were off that was ok cause I just wanted to see her eat with oh dear we had tons of different bottles and if she didn’t like one we would give her another, it’s part of nurturing. That was her baby! Good God he’s in paradise for sure.

[@lindsay_in_ak]

O

[@JulieViggars]

They should have given her a bottle of hot sauce instead of water

[@pattywolford]

The prosecutor is NAILING this despicable woman. Good to see!

[@louisehicks3285]

AGREEEEE

[@ericsbuds]

👍👍 edit: anyone catch the prosecutor's name?

[@Foreversunshine7462]

Absolutely agree!

[@jackiesaunders9013]

​@ericsbuds Mr Roberts is the prosecutor

[@ericsbuds]

thanks :) @@jackiesaunders9013

[@_theonlyme_]

Imagine torturing your child to death then saying you were traumatized. What a monster.

[@buzzknudson5707]

I believe she’s claiming that the trauma is from her husband having a stroke in January, which roughly coincided with Timothy coming to live with her. but it’s complete horse shit. she likely was abused as a child and became a sadist. abuse on this level is usually passed down through the generations

[@katjaxxx7353]

all BS, remember she worked for a Judge and heard that mot likely in the court room

[@ariston5433]

She reminds of. Female Nazi guard at a concentration camp during WW. She got her jolly’s torturing and starving her son to death. She saw her “ final solution”

[@Floppyearsmomma]

Monster, that's all I keep thinking.

[@eileenstehr7680]

Crazzzy!!

[@miahfukinrella007]

This woman trying to explain away her abuse is like listening to a pedophile rationalizing his attraction to children. It’s like nail on a chalkboard.

[@K9Mike]

If that's what the footage says....🤦🏻‍♂️

[@RipleyRoo]

She is claiming she can't remember crap. Even when prosecutor shows hard evidence ...she is a monster...

[@kelly73]

That is a perfect way to describe it! She is just evil. When i first started watching I saw her and thought, oh she couldn't have actually done this on purpose...WOW.

[@gaiaiulia]

I'm 4:20 in and I'm astounded ar her lack of shame or guilt at what she did and so far her testimony is only about dragging her poor son into the bathroom, if that's where she brought him.

[@onemanstrash8233]

@miahfukinrella007 Wow..I love the way you described this! She is evil…and she feels if she says she don’t remember it’s like it didn’t happen. Liar liar

[@murtl5595]

This freak is probably thinking the child died on purpose to get her in trouble.

[@simonasweet9085]

You are more than likely 100% correct. What is wrong with this world, my god

[@Elizabeth-1970]

Makes sense, in her eyes, everything is Timothy’s fault.

[@AnaFernandez-jp5uh]

This pos is a law clerk. She should know the law and have begged for a plea to avoid this horrific trial. And she had the nerve to take the stand to say she can't remember anything about the torturing and death of her helpless child. Good thing she was a a chronic texter.

[@Beautiful_Mess]

She didn’t call 911 because she was mad that he was “doing this” to her. She was mad her child died. How dare he die, and leave her to face the truth and consequences. I really despise her, and if there’s any justice in the world, she’ll receive it in prison.

[@Gary-lh8pc]

pl p

[@rhondasantiago8408]

Has anyone else noticed that she hasn't shed a tear over her own son????

[@MimiLovesJane]

No tears and when she fake cries she can't even get a tear out

[@sharonluna1257]

The devil has no tears. There all dried up from the heat of flanes😅

[@unapologeticallyauthentic]

She attempted to shed a tear, but it was about a frozen chicken nugget, and the lawyer shut that down..

[@MamaBlisss]

She's not capable of empathy. I believe she abused all of her kids😢😢

[@DebbieLabarre]

This case with these details make me nauseous

[@kileya6527]

She hated Timothy then and hates him now. She continues to blame this poor child during her testimony for her horrific abuse inflicted upon him. I am so sorry for what Timothy had to endure. May he rest peacefully now.

[@Opedd]

So bizarre that she only remembers his transgressions but conveniently never any of the messages she herself typed and sent.

[@MomBoss369]

It’s a weak defence too. Even if she conveniently can’t remember she clearly did all and said all of it.

[@shelly1nj41]

Im so sick with this case. It is very hard to watch and listen to this evil sick person. Those poor kids. Who is feeding the stroke husband?

[@chartroy]

@@OpeddRight? Infuriatingly obtuse 😡

[@itzflowers4me]

My birth giver is the same way with her memory. @@Opedd

[@mariyaa111]

I have NEVER been so disgusted and infuriated by a total stranger!! The fact that she is STILL lying is absolutely pathetic.

[@jcr5543]

Ugh she’s trying to play “Lawyer “ but she’s not that good at it obviously. She’s tripping over her own lies and the only diction she practices is “I don’t remember sir” No sir I don’t remember! What why what is with the French braids?🤮

[@annanimity8310]

I think she thinks the French braids make her look innocent ,like a little girl....🤷🏼‍♂️

[@angelagazzo9976]

Hunger strike again he was autistic does he know what a hunger strike is?? He was sick from no food and bread and hot sauce like he was in a concentration camp.

[@LuciaKOENIG]

Disgusting

[@jillcarter9877]

And her anger towards her deceased child still.

[@reasontotry1189]

I never in my life wanted to beat someone up untill now. I did not know I had it in me. Her talking about trauma.... what about that poor boy... this is the worst human behavior I have ever seen

[@AnaFernandez-jp5uh]

Ditto.

[@dawnward8121]

Oh boy you said it 💯 so sad for Timothy 😢😢

[@jeannemarie2403]

Same here

[@CrosbieLane]

Goodo!! Me too!

[@be4202]

She is despicable and evil!

[@13ritneyanne]

So he has 60 seconds to go to the bathroom but then gets abused when he has an accident? She starves him and when he tries to sneak food to survive, he gets punished. This here folks is pure hatred. He couldnt win. What a evil human she is.

[@LatishaBlayne]

Right poor Timothy had accidents because of her torture she ordered paul to give him the hot sauce. This poor baby could not do anything right right in her eyes. The poor boy was starving and literally dying with his mouth open before her eyes and she had her nerve to say he was faking? 😭

[@tracyshaffer4510]

She obviously still hates him! Hope she rots in prison

[@devilinav7494]

Yes, it's so awful. And it wasn't impulsive, it was actions she had to think about ahead of time and then do repeatedly. I agree with the sentence handed down 100%.

[@matalenaschuster3252]

She is not a human, she’s an animal, even worse! a liar of the first degree!

[@MariaLopez-mi4ol]

I was traumatized and I don't remember....WT??!!

[@bobrown582]

She still has anger and hatred for that poor kid. Even at her own trial for his murder, she can’t hide it. Pure evil

[@stephaniebach__12-24]

She’s angry at him that he died.. she blames him for her getting arrested.. that’s how sick and evil this woman is

[@NORTAH85]

She truly is pure evil! She remembers everything she did! If she had such memory problems there’s no way she would’ve made it through law school. I can’t comprehend how someone can be so cruel to another human, especially their child!

[@uservictory9]

If that's what it shows...

[@sunnystormy4973]

​@@NORTAH85 poor kid...

[@srikumar4184]

100% agree. What that child has to endure for 15 years! 😢

[@leighannawright1506]

Shes not crying because shes ashamed of herself. Shes crying because she is being held accountable for her actions.

[@SongJLikes]

She is crying to manipulate the jury.

[@absoluteindoubt5143]

Absolutely 100%

[@Hello-ig1px]

how do you know what she is thinking?

[@smokeydiamond489]

I have no idea why people leave comments like that. These things go without saying but ppl feel like they have to say that anyway

[@alley1433]

@@Hello-ig1px Her actions before, during & after her answers are very telling, relative to those verdicts😊

[@debann6471]

Love this prosecutor! He is the voice for this child. RIP

[@BarBeyDangers]

WOWZERS EVE SPEAK

[@natashachandler5458]

Yes he is

[@Godislove00797]

Amen 🙏🏽 this soo sad 😢 she's so evil

[@charlotteetienne1371]

I agrée he makes the jury see how a liar, a monster, an evil she is.

[@FazMaTaz]

He’s the chief trial attorney in that office. I can see why.

[@Happinosis]

I’m autistic with ADHD and sensory processing disorder. We’re not subhuman. We grow into adults if our parents “allow” it. My heart is broken for Timothy. I would have loved him and cared for him. This woman is truly a monster.

[@blues7160]

God Bless You! She is an horrific monster

[@sylvermoon1745]

So, I assume you’re saying this bc Timothy was autistic with ADHD? (Sorry. Not trying to be disrespectful, I just started watching this) It seems to me that she loathed her son. She despised her child. What is broken inside of a mother that she could hate her child so much that she would torture and kill him?

[@Happinosis]

@@sylvermoon1745 no, that Shanda is a hateful psychopath. Ignorant NTs always use autism as an excuse. If we’re allowed to thrive we can do amazing things. Or just live a life.

[@Happinosis]

@@sylvermoon1745 Shanda is a monster and Timothy was her scapegoat.

[@wisenfunny]

@@sylvermoon1745 Why would you ask such a terrible question? Do you NOT take a person for their word?

[@TheUnitedView79]

This boy was starved and tortured… starved so much that he was eating frozen chicken, raw burger meat, ripping locks off pantry doors, risking his own safety just to survive… the poor lad.. This woman is pure evil.. her tears are for herself and no-one else

[@Ritsukaberry]

You really believe he did that? She sounded like she was lying about that.

[@Ian-Omega]

@@Ritsukaberrywhy would she lie about that when it’s obviously evidence that the kid was starving?

[@amelie9271]

@@Ritsukaberryhe was desperate for food, he was doing anything to try to survive. Why would that be a lie?

[@Ritsukaberry]

@@Ian-Omega But I thought he wasn’t allowed to move so how did he get access to the fridge?

[@Ritsukaberry]

@@amelie9271 Read my response to previous person that replied to me.

[@julieduncan3011]

I loved the prosecution lawyer he wasnt taking non of her shit

[@lynettepatrice2600]

She was STARVING him, and torturing him, but she expects people to believe she was concerned about him eating "something dangerous"!? It's disturbing to know people like this can work in the court system!

[@gingerblair2932]

Contradicting herself like feeding her 15 yr. old the 2 hottest peppers on planet earth isn't dangerous! She's more dangerous than the peppers!

[@kaylariggs5188]

Oh, just like she put him in baseball because she felt bad that she didn't get out much to get him socialized. Just like she said she wanted to take him off his meds because "he was like a zombie - it was horrible". Just like she argued, "oh I wouldn't send (my little son) G outside by himself, he was with Paul". LAUGHABLE. Does she actually think anyone believes she has the ability to feel empathy? She has no moral compass. I don't even know why she even TRIES to say this shit. Why even bother? Just take your sentence and go. Smh.

[@howlinwulf]

Plenty of such people in government jobs. When they have power over people it soon turns perverse.

[@n0mecop-f0z]

It's frightening that she is human. Then again....she isn't. The devil's spawn is what she is

[@timeatakacs5633]

People in government are the darkest, most disgusting people. Evil people.

[@chelsistephenson5774]

The thought of the poor boy 'sneaking food out of cans' is just heart breaking. I hope this woman has the worst time when she gets sent to prison

[@ethelmertz1477]

She is there already. I wonder how it’s going January 29 is her sentencing. I hope she gets life with no chance of parole.

[@elizabethrodgers8616]

She's in jail. Prison will be different!

[@purepointgermanwirehairedp8169]

That poor child was tortured to death. She deserves life in prison.😢

[@blazingstar9638]

😭

[@barbarahorst1608]

She is pure evil .

[@Anna-loves-you]

I have worked with special needs people and this woman makes me sick. Put her under the jail for life, she's pure evil

[@pla5730]

Ohhhh I'd be pleased if she weren't under the jail.. cuz when she goes to prison her life will be a living hell.. as it should be... Other prisoners hate on this sick shit 😮

[@Linda-r4j4o]

@Anna-loves-you I totally agree with you.what a sick evil women

[@phillipwhite8463]

So you got paid to work with kids with special needs? I watched her testimony before Paul. I don’t see the jury going any other way than the obvious. She knows the foster care systems is awful, but her treatment was better? The DA worked this case very well, plugged the gaslighting the defense attorney did. Why the hell is the DA going after Paul is it to force him to testify. Paul’s testimony was a lot believable, but under the evidence, she did the best she could. Maybe she is really is just awful. Not that my judgement really matters in the end, not that’s she has much of a life worth living even getting acquitted.

[@justinshades6652]

Maybe someone should give her only bread and hot sauce for her stay in jail!

[@astrowerm]

Add a couple of minuscule sides, and that is a meal in jail​ @justinshades6652

[@stephaniebach__12-24]

“From the sound of it”… “I don’t remember, sir”… “I trust your word there, sir”…. “If that’s what it says”…. “Apparently”…. “Sneaky and deceitful”….. Does she really think people will believe her?.. And she does not deserve that bottle of water she keeps sipping on… She makes me sick… Vile, cold, evil monster

[@FionaH-sv2iy]

When Paul testifies she shakes her head objecting to his account. How does she now remember? Did she forget she cannot recall.

[@kathygagne4064]

A true sociopath

[@edithali1263]

She tried to give him his privacy??? I'm sorry, but she told Paul to take the shower curtain down so she could watch him while he showered. She's such a liar!

[@veronicawilson1048]

She’s so creepy also plus evil

[@ZeldaZelda-RichesToRags]

@@veronicawilson1048demonic

[@sixpackbinky]

I think she’s also a sexual pervert

[@guylainelavoie7571]

What they did tying him up amounts to kidnapping

[@leannefoster3413]

Has anyone realized that her nose and her upper lip turns red when she gets upset? Maybe she is a form of pinocchio.

[@sadrabbit53]

If she could, I'm pretty sure this woman would demand an apology from poor Timothy for dying and getting her in trouble.

[@mildrelugo3642]

Pero por que ella puede beber agua, cuando ella le negó ese derecho al pobre niñito?😢😢😢😢

[@sadrabbit53]

@@mildrelugo3642 Alas, she would have legal grounds to get people in trouble if she's denied human rights. Even if she herself denied them to others.

[@Smartiesmmm211]

100%

[@TheMPC1971]

Totally

[@juliebrownlie5330]

Absolutely. She hated poor Timothy

[@maryammosavi269]

I’m glad that she had the audacity to testify. The jury got to see a heartless, soulless, evil piece of trash.

[@rachela4071]

I don't think she comes across like that but okay

[@krisnkyle9834]

I don't think anyone would believe the I don't remember line

[@August-tu1yb]

thats the thing about this type of garbage... they really think they are the smartest in the room. thank god she is is so slick she wants to testify and thank god for text messages

[@darleneww3670]

Yep, she left no doubt she's a sadistic monster.

[@RachelFowler-w1d]

@@rachela4071Lady, let her babysit your kids. You’ve lost it.

[@bloodaonadeline8346]

can’t believe her entire defense hinged on “ I don’t remember?” How did she think that was gonna work?

[@sarahmurphy8030]

She's playing victim for years with her imaginary conditions and even got herself a "service dog" to go along with her scam.

[@julia.c.mcclure92]

She really has the audacity to say SHE’S traumatized.

[@matteframe]

Narcissism

[@verabolton]

@@matteframe Nope. Please stop misusing this word.

[@pl1763]

@@veraboltondefinitely narcissism involved in the rest of the psychosis of this woman. We all have a little narcissism.

[@verabolton]

@@pl1763 Absolutely not. Narcissism is a mental disorder and maybe "you all" have it there but not here. This woman has no psychosis, she's more likely a sadistic psychopath.

[@irock101402]

And the way she started to tear up/break down during her own "trauma", but not a single tear for her poor child. I cannot fathom how anyone can be so blatantly self-centered. She is absolutely evil. The fact that she feels sadness for her herself means she is capable of feeling, she just isn't capable of empathy or feeling for any one but herself. That is just plain evil.

[@Laura-te1sk]

She never cries for her son, only cries when she is undeniably shown to be cruel and torturing her son. She only cries for herself!

[@thefruitfulfarmhousewithchris]

Like a true sociopath.

[@leedoulman6027]

Not real tears evil 👿 monster

[@ivanajuricic3447]

She remindes me of Amber H.,the voice..all of it. Pshycos.

[@gyptess4794]

Did she even throw up? Anyone check the trash?

[@thefruitfulfarmhousewithchris]

@@gyptess4794 of course not. She pulled the same stunt when she was being arrested.

[@DeniseMcDaniel72]

A child shouldn't have to "sneak" food or toys in his own home. She didn't even supply her own son with basic needs. What a monster.

[@tamracummings3303]

In the toilet because the child was speaking of was 15 I don’t know why the brother or sister wouldn’t have said something to somebody it’s crazy😢

[@sunnystormy4973]

poor kid...

[@hiarhu746]

The truly mindboggling part to me is how she's clearly thinking the jury is going to find her behavior perfectly reasonable.

[@darcyholleman9221]

I can't say for sure but obviously she had a hold over the older son, most likely long term emotional/psychological abuse and trauma. He was most likely afraid of her. Same thing happens when a spouse is being abused, with long term trauma you feel hopeless, afraid, and powerless.

[@ESBEAUTII]

When she said toys I was like really?? He was literally living in HELL

[@erikalynnbruce]

Saying she didn’t eat her first month in jail because she was so traumatized tells me all I need to know about this woman. Disgusting.

[@angelapursley2811]

Blaming HER SICK, EVIL DEEDS on that poor child.....She is WORSE than imagined.... .TAKE THAT WATER FROM HER

[@tromedl]

Yeah!! That's what I keep thinking!

[@sarahdicastelnuovo4860]

Amen to that! She’s one cold b!

[@pettywhite]

When she said "I can't handle hot sauce" I'm like "pour some in her eyes 😠"

[@mmoro143]

Imagination, ignorance and assumption lead to anger and revenge. Understanding, knowledge and wisdom heal...what will you choose for yourself all the righteous people?🙏

[@tromedl]

Those are just feelings that are understandable thinking about the nature of this crime. I doubt any of us are actually revenging anything but her sitting there calmly and sipping water after brutally torturing her son to death is hard to comprehend.

[@kaycaravaggio7054]

Part of her life sentence should have included that she can not have commissary. I can not comprehend a mother so evil.

[@jasonhernandez5312]

She won't last long in prison

[@winterblossom4446]

@@jasonhernandez5312 God forgive me. I hope ur right

[@motherformerlyknownascoope883]

I wish... All she does is beg ppl for money on her jail calls... Also the good thing is now she complains about how cold it is, horrible the food is, how miserable it is in jail.

[@elizabeththornton2314]

That's exactly what I think ,and her so called friend should be ashamed of herself after hearing all this

[@tammystewart7429]

People everyday in the USA kill their children through abortion and you don’t think there are sadistic people out there.

[@deniseeugene1852]

The kid was dying and couldn’t even walk. She dragged him ?WTF?🤬

[@autism_momma_LosAngeles]

and when he was dying and his mouth was open for air, she called him a dummy.

[@unapologeticallyauthentic]

He was in the ice bath for 9.5 hrs.

[@unapologeticallyauthentic]

​@@autism_momma_LosAngeles😤😡🤬😢

[@deniseeugene1852]

@@unapologeticallyauthentic I am just so hurt for the boy. He suffered so bad. Hunger pains are horrible. Being chained up. Having to ask permission to go to the bathroom. Handcuffed ? Ice baths for hours? I didn’t know this child. But I hurt for him. This one is very painful.

[@raindemarre]

I totally misread the situation initially. I am now nauseous.

[@user-uu9cm8qc6j]

The most bizarre thing is she sits there and testifies like her punishments were the most normal thing in the world. Evil!

[@collettelindsey1906]

I'm in

[@rock.solid.withsarah6806]

The poor kid had Autism and she calls him sneaky and deceitful. Basically abused for having a disability, her own bloody son. This woman is dangerous and should never be released.

[@angeleyes2093]

The harder part that she continues to call him dummy because he’s autistic…that’s what upsets me

[@squnk3613]

@@angeleyes2093 Timothy wasnt her son, he was her step son. Which is just as bad but in a different sadistic way.

[@cherylbennett7672]

Amen!

[@davinastanton3865]

​@@squnk3613 Timothy was Shanda's son. Paul,Nolan and his sister are children from her first marriage Marriage to Eric Ferguson. Gabriel was from her marriage to Adam who died.

[@workingman-xl6xh]

He lived without his medications the entire time he lived with Shonda too.

[@carlatownsend5211]

Only a true narcissist would think she could talk her way out of this and convince a jury it was all Timothy's fault

[@crossedwires2629]

100% Kind of fun to watch in a weird way how she is talking herself into prison for life.

[@crossedwires2629]

100% Kind of fun to watch in a weird way how she is talking herself into prison for life.

[@crossedwires2629]

So dumb is the jury and the world, that all she has to do is say "I don't remember" and we will all be like oooooh, okay then, then it maybe didn't happen? We set you freeeeee!

[@dianedeferrari3888]

Or the brother. Narcissism is the least of her problems.

[@dianedeferrari3888]

Or the brother. Narcissism is the least of her problems.

[@kerriwilliams1503]

"I wanted him to stop being decietful and sneaky"..mission accomplished you horrible psychopath RIP Timothy I pray this woman will get her Karma from some mom's in jail.

[@leahflower9924]

She said he snuck toys snuck them from where

[@sandcat66]

It's just so sad, so sad poor Timothy. He was disabled FFS

[@Shylade]

She was so stuck on him being sneaky with never one thought to WHY he felt he had to be sneaky. He was merely trying to survive. Any one of us being starved would be sneaking anything and everything to get something to eat and not die. So strange why SHE was so fixated on food and the control of it. He wasn’t preoccupied with it, she was.

[@gingerblair2932]

She's just using sneaky as a cop out like justification. Anything to try&put herself on a pedistole.​@@Shylade

[@monickalynn4365]

All the Mommas missing their kids in the prison are going to "make it known" they despise her actions. She'd better watch out...omg

[@prettycolorsish]

Even a dog will not steal food. ... if he is being fed...if you don't feed your dog he has every right to steal food ...that's not theft

[@YahushaisKing144]

Cats and dogs will even eat their beloved owner if they died and no one has found them. And they also end up extremely traumatized after often.

[@christinebrill7842]

This prosecutor does an outstanding job! Forcing her to admit to the torture and lies. Powering through all the "I can't remember " and " I was traumatized". What a horrible horrible person!

[@kellym4747]

It was very unusual the way she kept saying that, instead of saying yes, that’s a possibility, we did that or no we would never do that….about things someone should never do.

[@NORTAH85]

She doesn’t have memory issues. She never would have made it through law school if her memory was as bad as she’s trying to convince people of.

[@kellym4747]

Well, she is claiming she has memory issues related to PTSD, she mentioned that a couple of times, but that is a weak excuse for everything that led up to it. @@NORTAH85

[@nathanielovaughn2145]

That demon is no person.

[@hazelreyes8999]

She has selective memory in addition to being a monster.

[@imjust.9867]

She’s beyond infuriating!!! Her testimony can be condensed into “sorry Sir, I don’t remember torturing my child to death” WTF…?

[@AshleeMarie-tb5fi]

But she conveniently 'vaguely' remembers selective parts of conversations that may be something she can use to her advantage, but as soon as something in the same conversation puts her in a bad light, she forgets again. Infuriating.

[@christibrown5956]

She thinks shes the smartest person in the room - psychopath. Delusional - actually thinks she's believable.

[@chiflores2634]

@@AshleeMarie-tb5fi fact

[@ginapearce5421]

She knows exactly what she's doing, she remembers everything except the torture she did to him and MADE HER OTHER SON HELP . She's a sorry excuse for a mother. Doesn't even deserve the title of mother!

[@reneedeli989]

I know right!

[@Arte822]

"I was traumatized. I didnt eat for a month". Wow she has the nerve to play victim like this

[@Sonworshipper]

“Hunger strike”

[@malcolmwalker1941]

The gall of this piece of crap

[@iahelcathartesaura3887]

She reminds me of Amber Heard and every other pathological malignant sociopathic psychopathic narcissist, cluster B type etc, that I've ever seen on a witness stand or in an interview after a crime. People can suffer from these disorders and not become entirely monsters! Some of them work hard to understand the issues in their own brain, background and behavior, to get better! And to not hurt other people, certainly not to this premeditated and horrific extent and over long amounts of time! Like I've often heard, the devil and pathology lack creativity. Sickness all becomes the same, and evil people resemble each other. How they do! It all follows such commonly predictable patterns most of the time 😢

[@iahelcathartesaura3887]

​@@Sonworshipper She was obsessed with this idea of hunger strikes? It seems? I love your screen name!

[@Sonworshipper]

@@iahelcathartesaura3887 Thanks! ☺️ I cannot believe that was the BEST she could come up with.

[@krisn2759]

Mom : “He got into his younger brother’s flash cards and got them all out of order”. Are you f*cking kidding me ?!!!

[@JenniferBode]

*Satan, not mom. FTFY

[@Helen-vb7pv]

The mere fact that she decided to take the stand, in her own defense, shows what a narcissist she truly is.!

[@amandaskywalker7331]

Yes! This was a slam-dunk case for the prosecution. Most people listen to their lawyers and take a plea to appear remorseful. She thought she could actually get away with it and she thought she could win over the jury. Delusional narcissist who has successfully manipulated everyone her whole life.

[@bloodaonadeline8346]

yeah I don’t know how she thought this would end well for her.

[@CSinger-db8tj]

Forreal,Forreal!!😮

[@Macachee]

I mean it definitely at least shows she has an IQ of a sea cucumber!

[@Macachee]

I mean it at least proves she has the intelligence of a sea cucumber!

[@inezbanks1311]

This woman is pure evil. Justice will be served. RIP young man.

[@deannawiederhold3326]

I have watched many different trials about parents slowly murdering their Children EVIL😢

[@Curious-Irish-Angel]

I am shocked she testified. Her narsacism couldn't help itself.. Good though, because it's the nail for sure...

[@suzyq4982]

@@deannawiederhold3326 I wouldn’t be able to sleep ..

[@j-r3207]

Funny how she can remember all the bad stuff her boy allegedly did but when it comes to her wrong doings, “I can’t remember” She’s embarrassing, she really thought her intelligence would outweigh the evidence. So she wasn’t that smart was she, 🙌🏼🙌🏼

[@c.eb.1216]

She must be a psychopath. Emotions have a strong role in memory formation. So that tells you she was experiencing anger towards him, but zero empathy or shame when harming him. Although I really do wonder if she actually can't remember. Seems like a convenient avenue to squirm out of things. Deny deny deny.

[@chocolatetownforever7537]

Such a great point j-r. So inconsistent.

[@lastnote]

@@c.eb.1216 She absolutely remembers. During this testimony, at multiple points she goes to her default "I can't remember" excuse, despite already answering and providing details to the question.

[@ronikagreen1826]

Not smart at all! She was a dizzy biotch!!! Hell, Paul, smarter than she is! He saw that Timothy was losing weight and needed to eat. She should have listened to that dummy, and they would have been a dynamic duo!!!

[@gloriaflanders3481]

And she was "teaching him to not be sneaky". But she tried to hide everything from the police. In fact, she was sneaky all along. "Don't let Grandma go inside". "Stay in the back yard". " Keep the garage door closed". She knew what she was doing was wrong, and she would get in trouble if anyone reported her. She was sneaky!!!

[@KaitlynWilliams-ts8go]

God the fact that she said she locked it up because the frozen chicken could’ve killed him, but she LITERALLY STARVED THAT BABY TO DEATH.

[@kimcooley3950]

Chicken nuggets are cooked.....

[@melm5189]

This is the most disastrous (for the defendant) cross examination I’ve ever seen. There is absolutely no doubt that she will be found guilty.

[@_DREBBEL_]

Honestly hearing this cross I think they could have charged her much more harshly

[@lindanorris2455]

and so waht????? They slap her hand and then she has a 4th kid to torture!

[@daniel7___]

@@lindanorris2455she already has 4 other kids today. But you’re right courts have mercy on women who do this but fathers get the max+max

[@missadams1330]

💯‼️

[@GinaKayLandis]

Has she tried to claim insanity?

[@tricki_nicki]

This monster is really pissing me off. Going to the kitchen to grab a snack IS NOT BEING "SNEAKY" OR "DECEITFUL"....Its just a 15 year old boy trying to eat and NOT DIE. Period. 🤬😡😤

[@letsreallytalk9482]

Thank you! I have a teenage son and daughter, my boy eats everything in the house, he’s a growing boy! It’s what they do, if they eat it buy more! Sneaking..stealing is just crap it’s food not gold! She is a psychopath who is controlling. I watched a video on ZavGirl where Paul is doing a live of G’s game and it’s the only time you can hear Timothy speak. You can tell he had severe autism, he wasn’t high functioning. But he was so excited, they were so annoyed with him it’s sad. You hear Satan over here tell Paul “Stop recording!” Paul says “I’m doing a live, just recording the game” she says “No turn it off! You can record but not live stream. Shut it off!” She was extremely controlling and sadistic

[@James-t5e4j]

💯💯💯💯

[@James-t5e4j]

Listen to the full text thread on zav girls site. She TORTURED him beyond imagination. The prosecuting attorney took it easy on her compared to what she did

[@ajvourakis]

Same. And the “hunger strike” nonsense makes my blood boil too.

[@CurvyCass1982]

​@@ajvourakissame! No teen boy would go a damn hunger strike!

[@ericamartin7334]

THEY SHOULD HAVE SHOWED HER THAT VIDEO! She should have to witness everything she did to that poor boy

[@michellecarrera9416]

This B makes my blood boil Yes Exactly!!! Play the video !! She's a Damn Moonnsstteerr!!!

[@leedoulman6027]

For sure

[@patriciastrassner4883]

She was very aware of everything she did.

[@madisonhartwick8114]

The only reason, why I’m glad they didn’t is for the jury’s sake. There is enough evidence stock piled against her and everyone knew it. The video should have just caused the jury to need further therapy after this.

[@leedoulman6027]

For sure but some how she stopped it ,

[@maryjaskiewicz2342]

This prosecutor is just destroying her

[@joyrenemillspaugh9070]

Isn’t it amazing that she passed the bar while having such a terrible memory!

[@dandylion9998]

And was able to work for a judge! Maybe with all her “memory problems” someone should audit all her work.

[@beautifuldisaster139]

she wasn’t an attorney so she didn’t pass a bath or ever taken the bar 🤦🏻‍♀️ she just for a the courts for one summer but she wasn’t an attorney or whatever.. more like a court Secretary

[@allieannette3712]

​She took the LSAT, people are confusing it with the bar, but she did do well. @@beautifuldisaster139

[@deniece0821]

​​​@@beautifuldisaster139Actually she had graduated law school and was a law clerk for two different circuit court judges. She had just passed the Bar exam right before being arrested. How she managed all of this is beyond me. Maybe all of her schooling will be usefull after all. She can advise her fellow prisoners pro Bono. 😆

[@beautifuldisaster139]

@@deniece0821sorry i misunderstood but i watch the the beginning & heard but i thought she just worked at a court clerk so i misunderstood the first video of certain ?s that i watched my bad

[@marijaalibasic6201]

I’ve never hated a stranger so much. Pure evil.

[@warialdasue]

Same

[@Inletwatcher1965]

Casey Anthony

[@Blake1720]

Hope she gets prison justice.

[@Blake1720]

@@Inletwatcher1965honestly this lady is worse and that’s saying a Lot

[@lindaamey3966]

She’s a evil awful person. Feel sorry for her son omggg what he went thru

[@ludedude5228]

The Judge at sentencing stated , You didnt intentionally want him to die because you needed him to be alive to torture him at your convience . This prosecuters interigation proves the Judge was right " This women is the poster child for the word DISTURBED 💀

[@Twinklez63]

She's a bonafide psychopath

[@dearbonks]

How did she find the time to attend law school, and have 5 kids? From the medical problems, she obviously failed to follow any prenatal care. Inbreds?

[@ashleysauce1754]

😢😢😢

[@mmoro143]

Let me ask you? How come this "monster" raised well several other (healthy) children? Does she need help and healing or life in prison? Please be honest. How many autistic teens with eating disorders did you successfully raise?

[@chartroy]

And EVIL

[@prachidalal5583]

The only time she actually gets emotional is when she references how she didn't eat her first month in jail.......sickening

[@jenniferargo2340]

Yes!!! I actually laughed out loud when she said that crap! The audacity

[@bobbi412]

What was her point for even testifying herself she sounds absolutely ridiculous

[@sandraphallphillips]

"I cant remember!" I cant believe how cruel!!😪😮‍💨😮‍💨

[@vondaholman-carter1286]

Stupid

[@KiraSieni]

Shes a narcassist. She cant help it

[@scelesteregina]

The defence probably ran out of options

[@cathbooth1980]

Ikr…not sure why she chose to testify? She now has zero chance of appeal & for someone with ‘an excellent legal brain’ who actually worked in that SAME courtroom with an appellant judge…such a stupid move 🤦🏻‍♀️ I honestly think she believed she was justified in what she did…she’s one of the worst criminals I’ve ever seen

[@mommawolf9653]

I LOVE how condescending the prosecutor is toward her. "Your brilliant legal mind" I'm sure he wanted to say a lot more.

[@kimkennedy9640]

"Thank God that didn't happen" (Spending the night in the garage)

[@OverIt822]

I was just thinking the exact same thing! And I’m glad the judge allowed it!

[@michaeldelguercio339]

Your brilliant legal mind, as it was. Hahhaa. Good one.

[@faithie911]

She deserves everything she gets in prison. She’s speaking like she believes she is smarter than the attorney questioning her. She’s evil personified. Timothy’s Dad needs to be punished for sending him to live with her. Everyone failed this child.

[@spmince]

I am sure she will get some much deserved prison justice.

[@QuadriviumNumbers]

Keep your misandry in check! This typically manipulative and narcissistic Karen is solely to blame but do keep on venting if it helps.

[@diamoniquechanelvalentina2014]

Unless he sent him back knowing about the abuse, witnessed and/or contributed to the abuse.....then his only crime is having faith that the incubator would care for him as it should. And I say incubator for lack of a more fitting and appropriate word. Cause truly, being called an incubator is too good of a title for her!

[@joditorkelson8649]

@@diamoniquechanelvalentina2014agreed!!

[@sarahfelsch5465]

Awful human

[@christinaramsey9723]

Years back, I read a book titled A Child Called It. One man's own account of the horrific child abuse he suffered by his mother. Many of the punishments she enforced for him "sneaking food" are similar to what the book describes his mother doing. Absolutely disgusting.

[@AnthonyNelms-nh8ko]

I'm a male 29 and I was horribly abused by my mother. I'm gonna check that book out

[@christinaramsey9723]

@AnthonyNelms-nh8ko he had 4 a child called it the 1st detailing horrific abuse. The 2nd of the lost boy about his time in the foster care system while still having involvement with mom and 3 a man named Dave on his adult life as a father himself and the 4th I just learned about today while searching Info for you called a privileged youth. Trigger warning on all. Things in these books are beyond understanding. My heart goes out to you. I pray you're doing well. I pray you forgive your abuser as it frees you from victim to survivor. Breaking any power/ control abusers have on the abused.

[@aislynngunit8083]

“I wanted to give him his privacy”… says the psycho with cameras everywhere, including the bathroom, to monitor his every movement 🙄

[@leedoulman6027]

Yep. Sick so sick

[@BIG-SHAQ]

She wanted to give him privacy with no clothes on the lower half of his body while cleaning the garage and then standing on his knees with no clothes😢😢😢😢 shes pissing me off.

[@jadegrenade8287]

But thinks hot sauce in the privates is fine.

[@IamAlien-on4kz]

Including his bm's. I have a hard time wondering what went thru his mind. He gave up. She's psychotic 💯

[@theroxygirl731]

Right! She wanted her flying monkey to pour hot sauce on his penis but she wants us to believe she cared about his privacy.

[@onpointlilly3923]

Take that water away from this monster

[@gingerblair2932]

Or like somebody else said she should be in handcuffs like her son Paul was. Maybe they wanted to read her body language,ect.

[@lanacorcoran8145]

She tortured him with every move He made he never even got a meal

[@caitlynm9885]

Just like ruby frank a woman with lots of kids and a good reputation, but behind the scenes they are torturing their kids.

[@Tee1312Jay]

Yes! I wish they could also take away the air she breathes

[@CannabrannaLammer]

​@@caitlynm9885Ruby did not have a good reputation. People called out her ab use for years before her son escaped.

[@deniseeugene1852]

I am getting sick . I just keep Imagining what the child was thinking. Poor kid . You are safe with God now. 🙏🏾🙌🏾

[@patrickmba7638]

I'm 49. And I'm crying. Literally crying.

[@juliannajones6016]

I like that you reminded us that he is safe now ❤ That helps when watching this disgusting trial

[@60toodles]

that comment gets me so angry. Safe with god now? God didn't help him at the time. Did nothing at all you think he's safe now?

[@deniseeugene1852]

@@60toodles None of us know Gods plan. God giveth and taketh life away. I had a case one time . Two four year old children fell out of the fourth floor window of a two separate tenements here in NY. Same floor and same age. One child died and one child fell and did not have a scratch .

[@patrickmba7638]

@60toodles Not sure what your world view is, but as a Christian, I totally believe that to be the case. Let's just say that everything that's happened in this world and that is going to happen is on a timer. And as much as He would want to intervene,He just can't. But the time is coming that he absolutely will.

[@Peacevk13]

Why did the bio father give him to her?! He should be accountable for not keeping track of his care or checking on him.

[@PinkyakaAyannaj]

Exactly

[@DomCoreLeon]

They mentioned he had a stroke so maybe incapable of doing so? Who knows

[@PinkyakaAyannaj]

@@DomCoreLeon Eeic did not have a stroke. He's just a pos

[@DaliaDippolito.]

@@DomCoreLeonhe wasn’t the bio dad. That was her husband. The bio dad sent him back from out of state

[@DomCoreLeon]

@@DaliaDippolito. so who's culpable? The step dad, the grand dad, the bio dad, the government dad... who? It seems like people are desperate to alleviate the BIO mom of agency when she is directly responsible. But all this does is infantalize women

[@Ragnheiour_Olafurdottier111]

When she called him weird for eating out of a can that killed me. What a terrible lady.

[@terrylcorbin5310]

Lady?😮

[@sharonpamamull7039]

I will never stop being upset over this and here she is being so unbothered

[@jay-on2qy]

She slipped up so many times, and almost admitted he was hungry. A normal person couldn't even talk about their deceased child this way, calling them "deceitful and sneaky". My God this woman is just wrong on every single level, a true abomination.

[@lyndzierugg1242]

This monster needed to be prosecuted by the prosecuter in the jessica groves case!

[@jay-on2qy]

@@lyndzierugg1242 Or Juan Martinez

[@33roses]

I’m autistic and was treated badly because my parents thought I was odd and annoying. I never got the care I needed. This a classic case of not wanting to care for Tim and the abuse was fueled by this.

[@autism_momma_LosAngeles]

The thing I hate most is they STILL have not indicated ONE thing that would merit even a day or two of punishment. He snuck because they withheld. THEY created the sneaking.

[@FMT2003]

I’m sorry for how you were treated. I hope your life is good despite how difficult your parents made it for you.

[@CursedCommentaries]

Same

[@cindy_lou_loves_to_stitch]

I am so sorry. ALL children are a blessing and should be loved and cared for!

[@kabanfield1]

I'm so sorry😢. There are stupid, heartless, selfish, hateful people in this world‼️ Rise above. YOU are beautifully and wonderfully made. YOU have talents like no one else. Make your mark and shine!!

[@bet1568]

She called her son 'weird' for eating out of cans when he is being starved to death. I don't think I can take much more. Watched her son Paul testify and I saw the damage she caused, and he supposedly will be the 'lucky' one. Prayers for all of those being left with nightmares. I'm sorry, I can't.

[@trailrunner925]

I thought at one point in her testimony she said Paul came to live with her after he graduated?

[@autism_momma_LosAngeles]

she literally said she was so traumatized her first month of jail she couldn't EAT clueless idiot

[@ttee6990]

and so many normal people get lazy to pour the contents of food from can and just eat out of it. which part of that is "weird"

[@Trendyviews.]

​@@trailrunner925 I caught that also. Makes me wonder why she gave custody to their Dad. Or got custody taken away from her. She most definitely should have never had the title of Mom. She doesn't have the heart of a bonding, motherly instinct.

[@leahflower9924]

Chicken nuggets are cooked....oh are they? 🤦

[@industrialover]

She doesn't remember closing his mouth and calling him dummy, she doesn't remember dragging him back to his closet, she doesn't remember anything, but she remembers giving him a warm bath?

[@aftonair]

This woman is sadistic and evil. How cruel. That poor kid. She deserves as much mercy as she showed this vulnerable child.

[@TDB2358]

Exactly! None

[@cliveramsbotty6077]

how convenient for you to simply dismiss it as 'evil'

[@shuffman8094]

And she talks about how ‘she’ was traumatized. What a sociopath.

[@msdustismith8919]

Well said!!!

[@finished6267]

likely a descendant of slaveowners and founders of our great nation. Always need to be degrading , torturing, killing and harming someone then blaming them. it's like a national brand. this is the face of evil. it's not "toxic masculinity" it's not some all powerful monster, it's meek acting, decent acting grey people. How do we walk past homeless hungry people? how do we ignore injustice? we are compartmentalized. it's awful.

[@ashleyserne4029]

The way she tries to rationalize the abuse she inflicted on him is unbelievable

[@andrewvelonis5940]

Agreed. One relatively minor point though: she said that when he was forced to stand up against the wall, he had to keep his hands up on his head for a period of time. Ten minutes? An hour? And how long did he have to stand up against the wall?

[@kathydilorenzo9744]

Yet prosecutor sarcastically called her a brilliant lawyer.

[@uservictory9]

She just gave him a warm bath...

[@Ben-fx8lg]

As I watch her on the stand.. Gulping, and evading questions… In her mind she is thinking. Ugh this makes me look so bad! But it hasn’t even remotely occurred to her that, it’s because you are bad. An awful parent. It would make Auschwitz’s survivors blush at her treatment.

[@GG-vv1zq]

​@uservictory9 I'm willing to bet she peed on him!! I'm sure that's the closest to a warm bath he got in that house. 35:22 How many times a day did he have to take an ice bath??? Holy sh*t!! Why didn't she send him to his Dad & step-Mom? Even if they beat him, it would have been better than starving to death. And he never got anything that was healthy. NOT one time did I hear a food item offered to him, that was remotely healthy. 38:48 What's up with taunting him with food, and then take it away before he can grab it. How bad both boys must have felt!! One starving and wondering why he was hated so badly, and the other one was forced to do this to his brother, or God knows what she would do to him. Did she believe that they wouldn't ever find out what they were doing to him? Thank God Paul refused to pour hot sauce on his penis!! I guess he realized that he was torturing his brother already, and that was just too much?!?! I'm just sick, thinking about that poor boy!!!

[@wickedgame241]

This is horrifying. I have an 18 year old son with profound autism. He requires 24 hour supervision, and some days are rough, but I can’t imagine ever putting my son through something so horrific. She should never be released from prison.

[@SD-hp8wi]

Sending my love to your son and you.💜💜💜

[@AngelaWilliams-of5uw]

Love to you and your son your a good mum, I cannot watch this woman that poor boy so upsetting

[@melissasmidt222]

You can't imagine it because you are an amazing mother with love and care in your heart and soul.

[@dawnlinnell]

Same, warrior parent, same. Maybe she'll get her memory back rotting in prison. 😡

[@uwpride]

❤❤❤❤

[@BabyYoda230]

I wonder if she remembers- she was found guilty and will die in prison.

[@krystlereese2543]

Her son is dead and she can’t even be bothered to take accountability for anything, “if that’s what it says” “I don’t remember” DISGUSTING!!

[@cking3081]

She seemed to remember every detail about what Paul did or said.. but has selective memory about what she said or did. Smh😡

[@jillruben8924]

And doesn’t want the video played. He should’ve played everything to make her uncomfortable.

[@jillruben8924]

May she feel fear every second of her life in jail. She won’t be liked in prison. Just an evil monster.

[@darlakay]

@@cking3081 I'm thinking the exact same thing as I watch this.What a piece of trash for a mother! EVIL!

[@ulyaka4781]

No accountability, and no remorse. She feels that "sneaky bastard won ", and that he was stubborn deliberately, faking illness to make her angrier deliberately, so she was forced to torture him to death.

[@americangirlx4]

Watching her slowly realizing how her testimony is actually exposing her sadistic torture of her OWN child, while she tries to distance herself from her OWN indisputable cruelty is so infuriating . Does she actually believe claiming to NOT remember somehow absolves her guilt...like it wasn't really her!!???? 🤨 She is monstrous psychopath.

[@GradKat]

I agree she is a psychopath. No empathy, no shame

[@kristentrep5038]

These monsters always think they are soooo smart too! She thought she’d be able to con the jury by taking the stand! She thought she’d seem sympathetic? And her education would help her skate around what she did! She thought it was perfectly fine leaving her son in a filthy closet under the stairs!!!! Can’t wait to see how much she likes being locked in a cell! I hope her fellow inmates treat her with the same level of love and care she gave that child! She’s one POS!

[@leekenny9176]

Poor child . How must he have felt knowing the woman that was supposed to love him was torturing him to death. 😢😢😢 😡😡😡

[@kellym4747]

I wondered if her insisting she doesn’t remember anything around that time would be her attempt to say she was so out of it around those times she wasn’t responsible for her actions.

[@americangirlx4]

@@kellym4747 Absolutely. She was trying to set the stage for her defense. She thought her immense intelligence could easily convince everyone that she is a victim, also dealing with her own "self diagnosed" mental conditions that cause dissociation, so she's not the guilty one! Arrest the evil shadow twin I guess? The mental gymnastics of a psychopath are disturbing but fascinating.

[@jacquelinefaught1804]

The fact that she was a JUDICIAL CLERK is astonishing to me! Dear Lord. I wonder how the judge felt after he or she learned of their own employee’s sadistic true colors. Wow.

[@mbbeautea6986]

It’s much more common than you think. Do you know how many people work for the department of children & families who neglect their kids, smoke crack & then get paid to take OTHER people’s kids away??? These states & systems are not broken they’re in SHAMBLES. We need a top down redesign of EVERYTHING. Court, police, schools & government. It’s NOT hard but these people are NOT just going to give up their corrupt piggy banks so all the poor people are SCREWED. If you have a little money you’re somewhat protected

[@wisenfunny]

I am sure extremely saddened!!!🙏🏻

[@Sheena7625]

She graduated law school with honors. Disgusting.

[@karendavis3275]

For whatever reason she hated her children. Some people are not meant to be parents and here is the proof. This woman should of never gave birth. Where are the dads ?

[@natbb9]

The government is loaded with evil people like her.

[@gussetblaster6786]

She doesn't seem to realise how evil and sadistic she comes across. When she said he would eat cold cans of food and that it was "weird" in a spiteful tone i couldn't believe what i was hearing! Absolutely shocking.

[@ztkrx]

she’s her own worst witness for the defense… she’s obviously a blatant liar

[@pmshea63]

Are you talking about Pippi Longstocking?

[@pelicanvibe]

The defence wants her put away for life too, that’s why they let her testify.

[@iffyangel3380]

Does her testimony remind you of AH? IMO, they could be twins on the stand.

[@caitlankelly4367]

But she doesn’t remember her lies so they don’t count 😂

[@iffyangel3380]

@@caitlankelly4367 oh ok 👍 🤣🤣🤣 I forgot that a jury would find that a valid defense! 😅

[@mashakasha6586]

You can see she still hates her deceased child

[@ElizmaBadenhorst]

Yep, she's upset that he got her in this position. The disgust on her face.

[@familyof5728]

The way she talks about him is sickening. She absolutely blames him for his own torture and murder.

[@trishsavery595]

The anger and disgust I feel towards this woman.....for her to sit there and defend herself and what she did is sickening.

[@tarakalous5714]

This woman is absolutely sick. What a nasty evil piece of crap . It’s not often I am shocked by cases but this woman fires back responses in such a nonchelant fashion, I am blown away. If it were up to me, I wouldn’t even let her have water in court. This made me feel so icky. RIP young man, I’m glad you’re no longer suffering.

[@carlajones4474]

Well said.. so evil im crying

[@TDB2358]

@@carlajones4474me, too!

[@tracysmith3076]

She is pure evil

[@TDB2358]

@@tracysmith3076 oh yeah! In finite!

[@clc7763]

She has an answer for everything

[@truthseeker5496]

Her attorney told her to say she doesn’t remember anything because they both know she’s so guilty. She has no right to cry😡 The poor kid snuck food because he was starving. He was never on a hunger strike. That monster woman doesn’t look like she’s missed any meals. Even poor Paul looks mentally and emotionally abused.

[@ABlackGirlandHerCoffee]

I was thinking the same.

[@Nanaflores59]

I agree about Paul.

[@scarlettapplejaxsaj1767]

God…the sheer gall of her saying SHE is traumatized!

[@gloriaflanders3481]

She reminds me of Amber Heard.

[@m42037]

​@@gloriaflanders3481Amber Turd.

[@Ace-ke7fq]

yet she managed to go to a job, it's funny she knew what she was doing at her job..some trauma..

[@elephantdanceparty7917]

@@gloriaflanders3481 Totally. She even sounds just like her

[@GinaPressley]

That really got to me!

[@lauramadsen4715]

This makes me so mad. Children living in your home don’t “sneak” or “steal” food. That is their food.

[@naelazlo4755]

Exactly! He was fricken starving to death of course he was sneaking food because he was being tortured for it!

[@ShannonBartkowicz]

Exactly!! I couldn't imagine not allowing food! My Son when little had his snack drawer in fridge, his juice boxes were on shelf right above, at 2 he was able to open fridge and get his juice and snacks, whenever he wanted, as he grew up, He has always been able to eat and drink whatever, it wasn't sneaking food, he Was hungry and wanted a snack, I will Never understand these Evil Creatures that don't allow their kids to grab a snack when hungry, Even my sons Friends know, Eat when hungry!! This Creature is absolutely Disgusting! Bet she never went without food and was able to Eat whenever She wanted!!

[@shellbell3443]

Abso-freaking-lutly!

[@MattDrury-xu3ll]

Was gonna say the same thing

[@kellym4747]

@@ShannonBartkowicz Well, if he would raid the refrigerator and eat raw ground beef and other things like that she said, it would make sense for her to protect him from that, but not to restrict his food and say he’s being deceitful and sneaking when he wants food!

[@phyllisrenthomas8752]

There was a reason why this woman lost custody. His father needs to be accountable for giving him back to her, and not ensuring he was safe. This child literally had no one. 😢

[@jackiemaloney4692]

The father died of a stroke

[@Emy53]

A 14 year old shouldn't have to ask permission to eat or have a snack. She imprisoned him and then abused him. Timothy had no power, no control, and I believe he was confined because she was afraid he would run away, and showing the world how he had been abused by his mother and sibling. I am shocked that his brother went along with her demands. At some level Pail had to know this was wrong. Also, after the father died, why wasn't there an investigation as to who now had custody of Timothy, especially because his mother was not supposed to have custody. She's still trying to justify her cruelty to her own son. Right at this moment, other children are being abused by someone that is supposed to protect and love them. People, open your eyes. If you suspect something, call authorities.

[@ellenso9731]

If she lost it his dad should also be in jail

[@ohheylovely]

@@ellenso9731the dad didn’t know and had a stroke

[@tiffanyjones8163]

I hear her say he had a stroke but did he die when the stroke happened or later? Anyone know?

[@SarahBellummmm]

When you're 63 lbs you aren't stealing food, you're desperately trying to survive.

[@Paradigm-change]

which is why he was eating raw meat probably

[@mmoro143]

Craving sweets and chips and frozen nuggets and refusing healthy food?

[@stephanie6851]

@@mmoro143 he was autistic, probably only liked certain foods.

[@Ash33_]

What an astute observation, Sarah.

[@mmoro143]

Ty Stephanie for pointing it out...people who have cognitive disorders cannot make good healthy choices for themselves, among other they crave sweets and junk food. It is their caregiver's responsibility to "control" this ill self-destructive behavior..to help them by keeping them away from junk (that worsens their condition) and to provide healthy options. If the patient chooses to take it! Blaming a caregiver for doing so and accusing her of starving her child when she locks the source of food to keep her child's cravings under control is rather ignorant, rude, and pardon my honesty, insane idea. Labeling it an abuse and torture is gently speaking "foolish" misunderstanding showing lack of knowledge, experience and willingness to do what is right.🤷‍♀️ it is not justice.

[@HoneySparkles2]

Such a SMART woman..she couldn't remember anything she does, but remembers everything the kid did to try to stay alive.😮

[@lucisferre6361]

This horrid woman is so callously evil that she could be kommandant of her own death camp. What that poor child was put through is unimaginable. This is painful just trying to listen to it.

[@Sarah24871]

You're spot on, she's like a disastrous cross between Helga from 'Allo 'Allo and Rosa Klebb from From Russia with Love 😕

[@GelGreene-fs9gl]

Unfortunately, you're wrong, it's not "unimagineable", it's VERY clear what he went through, it's pretty well documented. When you call people like this "evil" you give such actions an other world connotation, sign away part of their responsibility for their own actions. She is: Self obsessed, narcissistic, controlling, mean- spirited, deeply unkind, uncaring, devoid of conscience & unquestionably - DEEPLY SELFISH! All of the above are decisions... choices she has made & keeps on making & even if she came from an upbringing of terrible cruelty, yes, it could quite easily have made her less empathetic & more detached & cruel in her own thinking, BUT, it's just as likely to have the opposite effect & make a person want to give the love they never received & not use corporal punishment because that's what they had to endure! People are not either good or evil. We all have a choice of which road we want to travel. We can be kinder because of what we've seen or experienced, or punish the innocent for what was done to us! We can indulge our nastiest side, & inflict it on others, or bring out the best parts of ourselves & share them. Unless there is a serious mental problem, which makes "normal" patterns of thinking practically impossible, without medication. There is NO Excuse for anyone who makes another human being suffer like this & certainly not for an adult who does this to a child!! Every time she says "he passed", I loathe her more & actually want to punch her lights out! (& I'm not a violent person!)... People need to stop sanitising situations like this by using less - straightforward, less - honest, less - direct, words, to describe the truth! SHE should NOT be allowed to keep saying that he passed! Like it was some gentle, unpredictable, release! She NEEDS to be made to say "he died", "he is dead"! etc.. That's one very tiny step closer to taking responsibility for what actually happened! SHE tortured him to the point that it caused his death! He is dead & SHE KILLED HIM!

[@carolschober8028]

Totally agree

[@MaryKimball]

Who spawned this thing

[@kimgeraci3838]

​@@MaryKimballSatan!! 👹

[@aracelysantos9170]

This is an evil woman. The torture she inflicted on this kid was unimaginable. I’m thankful for the prosecutor exposing her for the monster she is. All she could do was shamelessly lie about not having any recollection of any of the text messages. It’s ridiculous how she conveniently lost all memory of the way she tormented her own son. She has no remorse for anything she did. She’s just sorry she got caught.

[@sydcrafty5498]

Agreed.. she is demonic

[@AllanBell-o4q]

I try not to judge people, I just judge myself, but there are times I agree with you?

[@kristintipps6735]

She wouldn’t feed her own child. She used food as a weapon. Disgraceful!

[@AllanBell-o4q]

And Derrick Chauvin, I know this is different, but it's the same to me?

[@mistyandrews4853]

Qà q

[@jjsmama401]

My heart is pounding in my chest I’m so mad. This disgusting human being didn’t deserve to be called “mom”.

[@rebekahwolkiewicz449]

Smartest in her class. Didn’t know that frozen chicken nuggets are not raw meat. This prosecutor is amazing.

[@jeannemarie2403]

Oh she knew

[@sadie-j6y]

The irony of her saying he could kill himself eating frozen foods is appalling

[@angelapursley2811]

Oh that floored me...🤬🤬🤬🤬

[@markengle2199]

And it was cooked chicken nuggets which would be safe cold. She is such a psycho. She should have pled guilty. Delusional narcissist thinking she might get away with this.

[@lilirishgrl]

Plus the chicken nuggets are precooked. The raw hamburger would have been worse I guess. But she’s a monster either way

[@mirandaadmiri5555]

@@lilirishgrlthank God they pointed out they are precooked she isn't smart for a former Law student

[@lilirishgrl]

@@mirandaadmiri5555 she really did seem stupid up there on the stand. I was really taken back the way she couldn’t even help herself by talking bad about him even in his death. I felt so sorry for poor little Timothy.

[@scottquail4023]

When she said the chicken nuggets could have killed him, I lost it. How ironic.

[@kathypaul-c5l]

THat is an insane comment on her intelligence as smart as she supposed to be ,, she plays DUMB!!! Alot!

[@ThreeTs223]

And then the prosecutor let her know that chicken nuggets are pre-cooked. She looked so stupid on the stand. I’m sure that made this monster feel worse than any other punishment.

[@OverIt822]

The tone of her voice from her pathetic attempt to act, and act concerned chocked me up (pun intended). It also baffles me how she refuses to swear in her texts yet she has no problem being so awful and cruel to the point where her it kills her child. Some people, omg🤦🏻‍♀️

[@marymackenzie4854]

Yeah blame the chickens for this tragedy.

[@SunFlower-x3]

😂😂😂

[@yokiyoka9823]

She continues to blame her son for making her abuse him. She slowly and methodically tortured him right up until his last breath 😢 She conveniently remembered things that she thought helped her case but can't remember anything that makes her look like a monster!! She is one evil woman!!!

[@leahflower9924]

All good abusers blame the victim for the abuse

[@dianedeferrari3888]

She has no case and at least she won't have any more kids.

[@embemm7707]

"He was sneaking" "he messed up the order of the cards" She has no problem listing all the bad things he did - none of them bad at all, especially when you consider he was a 15 yo boy. Yet she sits there listing these things like "see, I told you he was bad". She has no consept of how cruel & stupid she's making herself look

[@Treayom]

I had a mother just like that, I was lucky to get out of the house at age 14.

[@patticuadra26]

That water she's drinking should be DENIED.. Until SHE REMEMBERS

[@ginajones2328]

Agree

[@emptychair8141]

It's why I live in America !!! Third world countries would do it !

[@barbarajohnson3576]

Hilarious!

[@SharonBook]

Drinking the water is a nervous habit like holding on to a stuffed animal..

[@narcissus1111]

Just like how she denied it to Timothy! An eye for an eye

[@Tiffani_AnnA]

Idc what anyone says. She remembers alllll of this. Every horrible thing she did to this boy. “If that’s what it says, I don’t remember” Had there been zero text evidence she would have denied it all. She’s disgusting. Absolutely SICKENING. Poor excuse of a mother let alone a human being in general. Who does this to ANYONE especially their own flesh and blood?? I despise her.

[@CarsCatAliens]

She is an "offspring creator" The word mother doesnt belong anywhere near her. She doesnt deserve that beautiful title.

[@ynhasenteredthechat3376]

She's relishing in hearing all the abuse she inflicted. She only cares that actual humans can also see and hear it 💔💔

[@theresablanton233]

She did so much ,so many times , she " doesn't remember That particular days punishment

[@JunipaUK]

God only knows what other things she did to him that there is no text or video evidence of. Evil to the core.

[@monikiamoore2337]

Well said!

[@artparty222murphy9]

This prosecutor understood the assignment. Thourough, precise, on point, with compassion for this child . Poor thing . RIP

[@this_is_chycanthropy]

Imagine graduating second in your class and thinking this is a good defense.

[@vanessadebrino7231]

This folks is why it's never a good idea to take the stand in your defense. This woman has just ensured the jury will find her guilty.

[@benp3592]

Yep. Literally all she did was allow the prosecutor to read all the horrible things she texted again, and also make it worse by pretending not to remember.

[@vanmc60]

People like her believe they are smarter than anyone else, that’s why they always take the stand. She, actually believes that the urn will side with her. It shows her arrogance, narcissism and self centred behaviour. And I this case, led to despicable and deadly treatment of her own child.

[@sararahman7731]

I doubt it would change anything if she didn't take the stand.

[@vanessadebrino7231]

@@sararahman7731 probably not. She definitely would've been better off with a bench trial. When it comes to child abuse no jury is gonna have any mercy whatsoever. At least the judge has seen a lot of cases.

[@margaretlumley1648]

Folks like her nearly always take the stand. They literally have no idea how normal people think and feel, and believe they can control the narrative. Well, they can't!

[@Questofthenight]

And after his death she’s still calling his sneaky and deceitful. Her hate for him is palpable. RIP TIMOTHY.

[@LeftieLoosie]

And to think my 7 year old told me I was “the meanest mommy in the world” because I wouldn’t let her drink a Pepsi the other day….. that’s how it should be… kids shouldn’t even know what real cruelty feels like. 🥺 absolutely sickening listening to her say this as if it’s normal discipline. Makes me physically sick.

[@13ritneyanne]

I just looked over at my 4 year old playing on the floor with her dolls and she's cuddling them saying "it's OK little sweetheart let's get you a bottle" 😢❤ kids are all that is pure and innocent in this world. I cannot fathom hurting one let alone my own child!

[@Mrs.LeahBaker]

@@13ritneyanneexactly it’s a mother’s instinct to die protecting her own. I have three boys and can’t even begin to fathom how anyone…. Let alone his own mother, do this.

[@MrsTruthTeller]

My 3 year old had a tantrum because I wouldn't let him get a second cup of orange juice. In those moments, I feel like I'm being bad for denying my child something to drink but once you see crap like this video, you realize that you're not doing anything bad at all. My son has never gone a day with out adequate amounts of food and water. I may deny him juice and junk but he ALWAYS has access to water, milk, fruits, cheese, and snacks. This woman is just a monster!

[@howlinwulf]

​@@MrsTruthTellerjuice isn't junk

[@allthejuice8236]

@@howlinwulfjuice isn’t nutritious for children. It’s actually usually packed with sugar. Children should really only have water except for special occasions

[@MicheleHaney-p9w]

What is wrong with our society that none tries to intervene in a child’s life! I know we’re not responsible for others but in Gods eyes we are