He said he thinks Kobe was better when Kobe was practically the same skill set as Michael
@mellow85944 жыл бұрын
Channing ‘absolutely’ Fryed
@michealjohn10644 жыл бұрын
@@davidcarlos4350 Kobe was Jordan with smaller hands less efficient and a slower step. And that's still a compliment
@wallacepemberton9324 жыл бұрын
They said the same thing as Frye, “leading scorers don’t win championships”. Before Jordan proved them wrong.
@smokesmitty14 жыл бұрын
IN THE WORDS OF JORDAN, U NEVER WON ANYTHING
@jeter2744 жыл бұрын
How did Jordan have a stacked team, when Scottie Pippen missed half of the 97/98 season with injury and the Bulls still won 62 games? Nobody seems to mention that. They only bring up the 94 season
@jasonbournesburner38454 жыл бұрын
they never mention that 1994-95 season either when they almost missed the playoffs. They were good in 94 due to the fact the role players bought in.
@cobrachannel1004 жыл бұрын
In 94 they had a slightly different team than before MJ left. Wennington, Kukoc, Kerr were added to that team. So that is a bunch of lies.
@TheJackKnite4 жыл бұрын
@@cobrachannel100 Armstrong stepped up and became an all star that year, Kukoc was a BIG piece, he dominated the euro league and Krause wanted to draft him to the Bulls since 92, and we all know Kerr. Don't try to downplay it man
@cobrachannel1004 жыл бұрын
@@TheJackKnite That is exactly what I am saying. My argument is to the idiot who says MJ left and those guys won the same number of games. I pointed out they added those 3 players but I know it was 4. I dont remember the fourth one.
@TheJackKnite4 жыл бұрын
cobrachannel100 My bad sounded like you were dissing OP. The Bulls added Pete Meyers and Luc Longley too.
@tonylatrell44064 жыл бұрын
I love how people bring up how when Jordan retired the bulls won 55 games bt never bring up the next year they were a .500 team before Jordan came back n they went 18-4. The bulls never won titles without Micheal. Period
@ericjordan60592 жыл бұрын
These people never even put the 93-94 season into context properly because they want to trivialize Jordan. He helped players to develop and most of that first 3-peat team remained. With the addition of good new players, they were able to fair well over the season. Prior lessons learned and passed down enabled the team to go far. When Lebron left those teams, those teams core players also left OR were on the injured reserved list. That is why they tanked. People never make a note of this or they just don't know about it.
@jakeharrison2072 жыл бұрын
They were bad in 95 because Horace left. If you take jordan and Horace away yeah that’s a big downgrade.
@Dustin_Love2 жыл бұрын
@@jakeharrison207 94 kept everyone minus Jordan and added Kukoc
@Dustin_Love2 жыл бұрын
Cavs blew up whole team when Lebron left Cavs first time get out of here.
@100fxtradinggroup3 Жыл бұрын
@@jakeharrison207 The offense wasn't great either, they ranked 14th or 15th in the NBA that year without Jordan....The 55 win Bulls won off defense. Also the team was better defensively and offensively with Jordan.....and this is coming from a big Magic Johnson fan.
@usaisgood84334 жыл бұрын
Listening to the caller’s defense of LJ is just comedy GOLD! 😂
@ThinkingBrother14 жыл бұрын
But you know it's funny though???? A lot of the younger generation are now jumping on the MJ bandwagon... And to me, that's a good thing because they see it for what it is..... The documentary really changed a lot of kid's minds...
@deandrepage10484 жыл бұрын
The only game in town is Michael Jordan. 😑😑😑 Michael Jordan is basically an active 2002 NBA Player. Nobody on the basketball court but Michael Jordan
@thomash12684 жыл бұрын
And they don't understand when attempting to drag Jordan they are actually making the case that he is the Goat. I would think when trying to diminish MJ please have a sensible, objective, and well thought out response. Some of these callers comments are just inane.
@deandrepage10484 жыл бұрын
@James Jenkis #1 and freaking RETIRED, GET OFF THE STAGE.
@deandrepage10484 жыл бұрын
@James Jenkis Cannot re-create Michael Jordan so he can play in the NBA Finals against Lebron James. Stop trying !!!
@bjorn8044 жыл бұрын
Channing French Fries: He can only score Jordan's Career Average: Pts - 30.1 Reb - 6.2 Ast - 5.3 9 All-Defensive Team 1 NBA Defensive Player of the Year
@125efa4 жыл бұрын
No one can name anything that Lebron has done consequentially better than MJ
@Big_30004 жыл бұрын
Luke Lates LeBron is better at assist and rebounding and that’s about it. MJ Beats LeBron in every other statistical category
@mcclary444 жыл бұрын
Yo can I get some salt on dem fries?
@michaelinkpen41884 жыл бұрын
@@Big_3000, and the funny thing is the only reasons Lbj is better in rebounding is, he's 6'8 250Ibs and Jordan is 6'6 213Ibs, also Jordan played the sg position in the era of the big man and he still did really good rebounding, while Lbj has played the sf position in this no contact era where c's and pf's are spread out on the floor and only has a two or three more rebounds average.
@MrOunce34 жыл бұрын
@@Big_3000 Is Lebrin better at that or is it a matter of strategy. Jordan has proved he can avg just as many rebs and ast when he played pg. And what does it really matter what stats you have if you playing a losing strategy. Stats are what you get while trying to win. Wins > Stats
@docj76314 жыл бұрын
If MJ not even in his top 3 you know he just trolling. Richard Jefferson even said so.
@playthatagainbruh3944 жыл бұрын
Wait now Lebron is courageous for leaving Cleveland and forming a super team? These Lebron defenders are pathetic.
@wiseam94 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 exactly.
@munishyadav4562 жыл бұрын
Petty and pathetic 😅
@munishyadav4562 жыл бұрын
Petty and pathetic 😅
@shane18994 жыл бұрын
You cant lose as many finals as Jordan won and be in the converstion Jordan doesn't have the stains on resume LeBron has
@lastmohican32824 жыл бұрын
MJ won it all every year he played.
@deciuswtasby4 жыл бұрын
Last Mohican ummmmm no he didn’t. He’s the goat but he didn’t win it every year bro. Are you sick?
@chichis57572 жыл бұрын
@@lastmohican3282 I didn't know MJ won 15 titles 🤷🏾♂️
@lastmohican32822 жыл бұрын
Sorry...I forgot sarcasm doesn't translate in text lol. I can't figure out how losing before the finals is better than getting there.
@bigman75702 жыл бұрын
@@lastmohican3282 you supposed to put an “?” or thinking emoji 🤔…….😂
@shakaguru18964 жыл бұрын
Jordan 3rd all time in steals
@shakaguru18964 жыл бұрын
Second all time in steals per game with 2.35
@KingPiercter4 жыл бұрын
Bron finna be 1st all time in points tho
@tyrellgray10824 жыл бұрын
MJ Defensive player of the year
@zinjgreen33984 жыл бұрын
@@KingPiercter can't say that still, he needs to pass Malone and Kareem, but he is 'bout to be 1st in turnovers.
@ericjordan60592 жыл бұрын
@@KingPiercter ... Playing how many years and averaging how many shots per game for his career?
@leobramlett51184 жыл бұрын
LeBron was put away in the finals by Patty Mills and JJ Barea in separate finals. Need we say more? 😂
@phraymtv66554 жыл бұрын
Yeah!!!, Same team sweep kobe's team, twice in the playoffs😆😆😆
@gagandhaliwal93914 жыл бұрын
@@phraymtv6655 kobe didn't choke in the finals like lechoke did in 2011 while having a finals mvp in wade and all star bosh on his super heat. Kobe is 5-2 in the finals and didnt get swept twice. He got swept trying to go for a 3peat. Lechoke barely managed to win 2 with miami when he said not1 not 2 not 3..blah.
@jameshoops104 жыл бұрын
so they played 1v1 in the nba finals for those two yrs and they beat out lebron and nobody else was on the court wow i must've missed this
@terryf32824 жыл бұрын
@@gagandhaliwal9391 Lebron's individual final's performances are more impressive than Kobe's yes Kobe's teams have a better record. But Shaq was the main guy in the first 3 and Kobe had poor shooting in the next 3 but he had Gasol as back up. Lebron's 2011 perfromance was his worst and his 2007 was not very good but he was very young leading a bad team in 2007. But his other finals performances have been good even when he loses. His stats blow Kobe's out of the water. Kobe only shot over 45% in one of his finals appearances and that was probably cause the other team was focused on Shaq who was averaging 36 points! Plus it was the 52-30 New Jersey Nets! While Lebron has gone up against a 73 win team and a team with Durant, Curry and Thompson. Jordan is the GOAT in my opinion but Lebron is higher than Kobe.
@mauricedavis17404 жыл бұрын
Terry F your making a lot of excuses for lebron. the fact remains is he’s been blown off the floor multiple times in the finals and that never happened to Kobe. you can say he had better stats than Kobe in the finals but where did that get him when he’s lost 67% of the time he’s been in the finals..? that’s not impressive at all especially if your supposed to be considered the goat but all people like you do is make excuses. Lebron averaging a triple double while his team is getting swept is not impressive to me im sorry. It just shows me those numbers are empty and had absolutely no impact being that they got swept. If lebron was really the goat he would of been able to keep his teams competitive in the 07, 14, and 18 finals. You can make the argument that he was playing against better teams in those three finals but you can also make the argument that lebron’s teams shouldn’t of been dominated the way they were...
@aaronaiysen75344 жыл бұрын
Why does LeBron jump over Magic, Kobe and Duncan 🤷🏾♂️ cause these Bronsexuals in the media.
@calendennis4 жыл бұрын
Exactly bro I’ve been saying this!
@sokit2em4 жыл бұрын
OMG thank you!! Nick Wright and Shannon Sharpe are the culprits of this. Then you have other members of the media who dont put Lebron as the goat, but still number 2?! They all prematurely leap frogged Lebron over these greats. Lebron is def top 10, but he has more to prove to crack the top 5
@munoken4 жыл бұрын
He doesn't, it's a media push that's bogus.
@aaronaiysen75344 жыл бұрын
FMR393 Agree. This is why I kind of quit watching sports talk shows on mainstream media. They push this narrative to much
@dylanallen77204 жыл бұрын
even magic agrees lebron is above them lolol
@cyber6sapien4 жыл бұрын
Jordan shot over 40% from three in the Finals over the course of the first threepeat, and over 38% over the entire playoffs over the same span.
@jasonbournesburner38454 жыл бұрын
They never mention that either Cyber.
@simple456794 жыл бұрын
but that doesn't fit the "MJ only shot well during the shoretened 3P era" narrative, of course nobody would want to mention that
@connorsmith65174 жыл бұрын
Louie Paolo Lumanglas He shot 29.6% from 3 without the shortened 3pt line. Which is fine because when he needed to hit 3s he did and could. He just wasn’t a great 3pt shooter. Not a negative on MJ or his legacy. Let’s just be truthful
@ericjordan60594 жыл бұрын
@Brian G ... People never realize this. His percentage was a bit lower, from 2- and 3-land, because of the bailout shots and he still averaged a crazy percentage for his Bulls career!
@JustFrame214 жыл бұрын
@@ericjordan6059 This. More over, IF Jordan was practicing 3 point shots like modern players today, his FG% at 3pt range would've been just as spectacular. Remember when everyone used to say that Rookie MJ couldn't shoot at mid-range...by the late 80s, they all completely shut their mouths because MJ was an absolute killer with the mid-range in his late 80s and early 90s incarnation. The only difference is that he didn't have to rely upon it as much as his older late 90s counterpart due to his peak athleticism version which could allow him to split defenses and get to the hoop at will. Tell MJ that he isn't "good" at something and the guy would come out and clean you up on doing that very thing. MJ if he wanted too would've been an absolutely spectacular 3pt shooter, and even when he as you stated started to "try" his averages were still good despite never truly practicing the shot.
@Malaki7274 жыл бұрын
Labrina "once I lost to Mavs back in 2011 I knew I was the greatest of all time "
@hectorrosado58072 жыл бұрын
He also lost to D Howard Orlando Magics 😆🤣
@Matt-kd8xx Жыл бұрын
MJ was sweep in the 1st round in 86 😂, in 87 🤣 and in 88 🤣🤣😂😂
@SuperSonic_868 Жыл бұрын
@@Matt-kd8xx Lol. You're so uninformed about basketball. Mike was only swept in 86 and 87. He played the super Celtics who had 5 hall of fame players on the team. One man can't beat a superteam. That same logic applies to lebron when he was swept against better teams like the Spurs and warriors.
@onidtubes4 жыл бұрын
Imagine leading the league in scoring like 12 times, was a steals leader twice, was all defensive team like 12 times, and somenobody like Channing say, all he did was score. lol
@Nasdupree90904 жыл бұрын
The whole point of basketball is to score and defend and MJ does both better than Lebron. What Lebrons the goat cause he makes sure to go outta his way to get those 10 assists? Lol Lebron more worried about a triple double stat line and that’s why he’s 3-6 in finals
@seangermano15634 жыл бұрын
He was steals leader 3 times. And won defensive player of the year as well.
@tylerrbh97694 жыл бұрын
Imagine talking about Jordan defense and then realizing that in game 1 of the nba finals magic bullied Jordan and they had to put pippen on him
@traviabrown73414 жыл бұрын
@@tylerrbh9769 imagine in that same game jordan torched that whole team.. listen to this stat line for that game 36pts on 14/24 shooting to go along with 12asst and 8 rebs.. go back and watch the game then come back and try and defend this comment
@Ha-th3sb4 жыл бұрын
PREACH BROTHER
@megadrive65734 жыл бұрын
@15:00 Wrong, Jordan could (and did) elevated FAR MORE than Lebron with FAR LESSER talents. First of all, when Jordan left in 1993, the Bulls didn't have the same team in 94, just like when Lebron left in 2010, the Cavs were a totally different team in 2011 (including the coach). So that argument is invalid. Second, The 1997 and 1998 Bulls have the two worst/lowest scoring supporting casts by a winning team in the history of the playoffs (shot clock era). And Jordan was 34 and 35, oyt of his prime. 1994 Rockets - 59.3 ppg 2006 Heat - 58.2 ppg 1999 Spurs - 57.4 ppg 1997 Bulls - 55.5 ppg 1998 Bulls - 54.5 ppg Even better than that, in the 1997 nba playoffs, Jordan actually became the only player in nba history to lead a team to a championship with only ONE PLAYER BY HIS SIDE IN DOUBLE DIGIT. No other Bull teammate averaged even 8 PPG. That's the definition of carrying a team and it's unheardof. And by the way, Rob Parker is right on this...there's a HUGE DIFFERENCE between win 3 championship in a row and get knocked out in the second round of the playoffs. The last time it happened to the Bulls was in 1988.
@gideonnartey74834 жыл бұрын
So much bs from people like you is just ridiculous.
@Aknight2924 жыл бұрын
@@gideonnartey7483 if you don't like it, how about challenge his points? If you can't then it's not BS, you just don't like what was said.
@jasonbournesburner38454 жыл бұрын
@@Aknight292 He is not going to challenge it because they cant. so they refute it by name-calling. Very childish behaviour.
@simple456794 жыл бұрын
People forget the Heat when healthy was 1 game away from ECF after Lebron left.
@connorsmith65174 жыл бұрын
Megadrive Jordan wouldn’t make the finals in 07 or 18 with those Cavs teams. Lebron is the most valuable player ever, jordan is the greatest. We don’t have to diminish a Mount Rushmore player in Lebron to prop up MJ. MJ is the goat we all know this, LBJ still top 2-5 all time.
@edgarflores90884 жыл бұрын
Channing Frye brain is fried up lol only score MJ was an all around baller winner...MJ GOAT
@tonykidd38934 жыл бұрын
Channing WHO?😄😄😄.. he is a clown..He sounds like MJ refused to sign his autograph
@thecomicstandlosangeles61874 жыл бұрын
Yup Jordan got 9x first team all defense and won defensive player of the year.??
@roderickl95393 жыл бұрын
Have you guys heard the joke of a guy named Hollins who's a teammate of Lebron too, I believe? If you haven't, look up the video. The one he's debating/arguing with Shaq. Lebron's great. No doubt. Lebron is just not the GOAT! Michael Jordan is the GOAT! Period. It's been over!
@gshmoker68054 жыл бұрын
I would take Prime Kobe over Lebron any day.
@DexterCarter2.14 жыл бұрын
A men!
@pootsplasencia48464 жыл бұрын
@@Rambo-wc1rb your a causal of couse kobe over lebron
@akhenaton19794 жыл бұрын
no one cares
@NiGaThE4 жыл бұрын
Idk about that beloved
@datguitarplayer16564 жыл бұрын
Ahh...the Kobe fans. Never seen a basketball game in real life, all under the age of 28, and when they saw him play one time on TV when they were 11 years old they remember him being cool. Kobe fans are a unique breed- not basketball fans, not Lakers fans, just Kobe fans.
@slytyme36514 жыл бұрын
"When Ray Allen hit that corner 3, I knew I was going to be the best of all time."
@jetgarcia88194 жыл бұрын
🤣 disgusting! He doesn't respect the real GOAT and places himself ahead. Now he's being slapped in the face by reality when the Black Jesus unleashed his wrath. 😏
@normanlauron41024 жыл бұрын
Niiiiice... 😂 😆
@Drfunk9104 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 So True LOL
@fullmetal17664 жыл бұрын
Lmfaoo
@toriedavis44034 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@dbu71514 жыл бұрын
KD, Steph, Kawhi, Dirk, Duncan all won Championships at LeBron Peak. Ewing, Barkley, Malone, Stockton, Payton, Miller, Drexler all denied Championships at MJ Peak.
@bigboner234 жыл бұрын
Kobe too
@cl503cammy4 жыл бұрын
Jordan only played 6 season in the nba? He never lost?
@UtotheJ4 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Taylor So you are just gonna ignore getting owned by Puerto Rico and Lithuania?!
@cl503cammy4 жыл бұрын
@Jimmy Taylor thank u! Its weird old heads never talk about jodan loses.... they never talk about how jordan retired because he was tired! Just talk the truth thats all we want.... we dont count the wizards years like wtf lol he still played! Oh jordan locked the league and nobody never won ! Oh rele so rockets and all that dont matter and before he went to the finals no body won no? Lol bullshit.... they always put holes in lebron career etc do the same for mike thank u
@JosephSmith-uh2cg4 жыл бұрын
@@cl503cammy 6 finals lol. never lost. u know it. u just tooo dumb to accept it lol
@tangaraspeedgoda74364 жыл бұрын
There's never been an argument to say Lebron is the goat and that's why it's a fake debate. You want to talk about the influence of the documentary. What about the 24/7 pro-Lebron hype that we've been getting the last 10 years? Give me a break...
@datguitarplayer16564 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Kareem is the GOAT and if it wasn't for the media hype around Jordan everyone would know it.
@stephenscott86324 жыл бұрын
Kareem should have won more. He played on a stacked team and when it was fair throughout the league Kareem only won once until magic came. Kareem couldn't give himself the ball so I truly feel big men cannot have that influence over the game. He's not better then Jordan, magic, lebron, bird and kobe imo. He's 6th imo but dominance he's top 2 with Jordan. His stats are even more impressive then anybody career wise.
@mhua24 жыл бұрын
@@datguitarplayer1656 I do like Kareem but the knock on him is that the lakers showtime was mostly magic's team. Heck, magic won game 7 and finals mvp as a ROOKIE when he played Center for an injured Kareem. Kareem has the most unstoppable shot but just can't get over the fact that he could not win a title until magic came along. When he won the first one, he had Oscar Robertson. Jordan has 6 titles with 6 FINALS MVP. If pippen won three finals mvp then yeah... We would have a different conversation. However, I can't remember one series where we said pippen was the best player over Jordan.
@laurencewilliams66764 жыл бұрын
Well said
@michealjohn10644 жыл бұрын
It feels forced
@doublebase19754 жыл бұрын
Lebron- invented load management MJ- played with flu/ food poisoning and won the game
@valthomas97864 жыл бұрын
Is that REALLY true? I dont think that's correct. Isnt San Antonio and greg poppovich credited with starting that with Tim Duncan, Kawhi, and others?
@raywhorton59894 жыл бұрын
That’s untrue. The Lakers and other division leaders would get a lead on the other teams in the standings and would sit out the final six to eight games to stay fresh for the playoffs. They’ve been doing that before the 90s.
@Xzei3 жыл бұрын
Dude had a hangover. Gatorade don't help the flu lol
@biglildee07164 жыл бұрын
Channing “Cornball Brotha” Frye 🤣🤣
@cyber6sapien4 жыл бұрын
So the 2007 Cavs had no business in the Finals, yet they were the #2 seed in the East? So does that mean that the only team that deserved to be in the Finals from the East that year was the #1 seed team in the East?
@lord48064 жыл бұрын
They were the second seed because of lebron being great its like with Giannis now even tho he has a better team than lebron ..
@peterstark45624 жыл бұрын
Lebron's stats in 2007 finals 22.0 ppg 36% FG 20% 3pt FG 69% FT 6 TOpg 😂😂😂
@mauricedavis17404 жыл бұрын
Peter Stark i haven’t seen those numbers in awhile smh i forgot they were that bad..
@Israel-nb7ip4 жыл бұрын
@@mauricedavis1740 that Finals was unwatchable. The average margin of victory for SA was 6 pts per game and it STILL seemed like the most noncompetitive finals I'd ever seen. LeBron was awful, but he was still learning how to win while going up against a multiple time championship team. His game was exposed.
@ericjordan60592 жыл бұрын
More narrative from ESPN and people suck it up. I remember more than a few analyst believing Cleveland would win that series. That changed once game 3 was over lol Also, Iverson and the Sixers shouldn't have been in the finals in 2001 against LA. But at least they won 1 damn game.
@ronsilvia81274 жыл бұрын
There's a poll right now going around KZbin and Jordan is more than double lebron james.
@duanecrooms65704 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 facts
@realfactstv47834 жыл бұрын
Facts it's done bro MJ is the GOAT 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@jackpatrick84604 жыл бұрын
if they polled who was taller, MJ would win that one too
@gagandhaliwal93914 жыл бұрын
@@jackpatrick8460 if they polled who was the choker in the finals, bron would be at 100% 😂😂
@raffaballzz4 жыл бұрын
@@jackpatrick8460 MJ was just better bro, not to disregard LeBron because he is great also
@animefan93294 жыл бұрын
I was a huge doctor j and sir Charles fan. When Barkley was traded to the suns for a bunch of stiffs I still remained his fan. I was so happy that he was finally going to exact revenge on Jordan. Since I was a Sixers fan I hated Jordan for two reasons he replaced the doctor as the most dynamic player in the nba. And two, he had beaten chuck and the Sixers back to back seasons in the playoffs. So when he got traded I thought, for sure that Barkley would prevail with a better squad and beat jordan finally. So you can only imagine my contempt for him increased exponentially. The point is I never was a Jordan fan. Till this day I have never bought Jordan's either. (I'm a Barkley air max 95 guy). But when Jordan beat Phoenix back in 1993 I simply gave it up to his airness. To me the suns were better than the bulls. And I thought Barkley was better that Jordan cause he rebounded and passed more ( sound familiar). Boy was I wrong! Sometimes people's hate for another person can cloud our judgment. I don't need a documentary, stats or anything else other than my own two eyes to see that the show Jordan put on in that finals sealed the deal for me. If Barkley with a better team couldn't get the job done then no one could. Mj in my mind has been the goat to me since That 1993 finals were he avg over 40pts a game to Barkley's 27pts a game. I was done after that. The issue became undebatable !
@IG96114 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was a huge Barkley fan too...even was cool with his younger brother. I always thought Barkley was too nice to Jordan in those Finals though because I definitely thought they would win that year as you did. That one let me down majorly cuz Barkley was a beast that year for sure. 6.4 1/2 and killed at power forward....unreal. Just like Lebron is a 1 of 1 as well.... there'll never be another player that big, that strong, that fast, and have the hoops IQ like that and Bron never even focused on scoring and is almost top 3 all time....wow. I get that MJ was great and I watched all of the 80s and 90s but for people to say LBJ isn't a monster in his own right is ludicrous. I've always said people won't respect his talent and skill set until he's gone....and this is coming from an actual hooper that played in college against former NBA players...💯.
@peterstark45624 жыл бұрын
@@IG9611 honestly. I think lebron would've been more dominant if he focused more on scoring and defending and at the same time let his coach and team mates make plays for him. He can score 40ppg with his freak size and athleticism esp in this less physical era. Him moving without the ball and posting up is harder to defend. But i guess fillin those stats are more important.
@jdubb0074 жыл бұрын
That was a ridiculously talented Phoenix team.
@Kingstyles054 жыл бұрын
That Phoenixx team is the best team I ever saw to win a title.
@wallacepemberton9324 жыл бұрын
I G who says a Lebron isn’t a monster in his own right? He is, he’s just not the goat.
@onidtubes4 жыл бұрын
Who's Channing Frye? Sorry, doesn't ring a bell.
@ericcallahan8294 жыл бұрын
Channing frye is the old white haired actress?
@princeluke63404 жыл бұрын
CHANNING FRYE is one of the first STRETCH BIGMEN. He shot 39% from 3 point range in his career & has 1 championship. Put some respect on his name lol.
@kenriccoleman71714 жыл бұрын
Prince Luke FOH
@josefermin61614 жыл бұрын
I want to like this but you have 23 likes, so I'm not lol
@belichagua4 жыл бұрын
Jordan is the G.O.A.T❤🙌🏀✨
@mcfirebug4 жыл бұрын
wilt chamberlain
@ericjordan60592 жыл бұрын
@@mcfirebug ... Wilt's numbers didn't translate during the playoffs. It's more than just numbers and records.
@hectorrosado58072 жыл бұрын
@@mcfirebug 2 championships for Wilt
@eugenecaldwell96192 жыл бұрын
LBJ is the 🐐!!!!!!!!!!
@blackphillip5644 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for LeBron's doc: When we was Queens.
@slytyme36514 жыл бұрын
Swept twice in the finals
@mrrich97994 жыл бұрын
The Last Excuse
@relaxstaycalm19064 жыл бұрын
there would be a lot of flop scenes lol
@blackphillip5644 жыл бұрын
@R S No it is clever, that's why I wrote it. After LeBron retires he's going full Twitter revolutionary/ Al Sharpton. Saying a whole lot but not helping anyone
@armnelangeles18244 жыл бұрын
Better yet: When We was Kweens. 🤣
@leondaniels79954 жыл бұрын
Lebron: no one watches what they say, trash talk all day MJ: (EVERYONE FEARS) Theirs a actual rule around the nba that damn near every player, gm,coach whoever follows (Never talk trash to Jordan)😂😂😂
@tcg54274 жыл бұрын
That doesn't mean MJ had a lesser team than bron when he left it means he got his team RIGHT! HE pushed them to bring out the best
@Reignwonton4 жыл бұрын
100% Jordan left the residue of his high standards on the organization, His impact, reputation what have you. And that 94' team played accordingly. So now imagine if Jordan was on that 94' team... he would've simply closed it out.
@mansoorp83554 жыл бұрын
@@Reignwonton I always believed Jordan's teams were stacked, but you are right, and I never realized it. 94 Bulls would have gone to the championship and would have possibly taken down Hakeems Rockets. But nonetheless Jordan would have taken those Bulls to the championship which speaks about his basketball skills. I truly don't believe there is a best player ever in any sport. Top 5 sure but in no order. From the eye test on pure skills (things player can do on the court) I havent seen a more complete player than LeBron. Now the only problem with LeBron LeBron most frustrating part about his play is that he didn't play like Kobe. He was a much better player from talent stand point but he just didnt have "it." Kobe could impose his will and would, but LeBron doesn't. Him feeling out quarter was always frustrating. LeBron would be considered the greatest hands down if he would play every game like he did against the warriors game 1 2017 season or against the celtics game 6. But he doesnt do it so ultimately I'm giving MJ the nod, but my eyes tell me LeBron is the greatest as a complete player Again I grew up watching basketball from 2000s to now. I never saw the actual bulls at an age to realize how great MJ was. I remember him as a wizard player more than bulls so I really have no idea how great he is. I saw a prime T-Mac, Kobe, and LeBron.
@chrisa42764 жыл бұрын
Dan gilbert didnt help his situation either never gave bron a complete team
@Reignwonton4 жыл бұрын
@@mansoorp8355 yo, Respect to everything you said. Cuz I'm a Jordan guy and had grown up in that era, but the fact that your honest with your points regardless of the topic is (no favorites) just facts is respectable. And I 98*% agree with you 😀🍻
@manofaith754 жыл бұрын
you reaching bruh
@rotoninja4 жыл бұрын
When Kyle Kuzma has to physically push you to play defense, you''re not the GOAT.
@heshmiabennett31674 жыл бұрын
Lol
@RevoVansen4 жыл бұрын
When homie brought up the eye test, I thought the same thing, and the flopping, and the traveling, and the putrid free throw % down the stretch.
@raywhorton59894 жыл бұрын
When you wait until you're 70 years old to put out a documentary that makes you look like you did everything by yourself, you are not the GOAT.
@valthomas97864 жыл бұрын
I feel you. Good point and that was a bad look on lebron. But its unfair. Jordan has bad tape too with bad body language and effort
@RevoVansen4 жыл бұрын
@@valthomas9786 There is bad tape on everyone but Lebron is consistent with his lack of effort.
@elp30354 жыл бұрын
Imo, LBJ is the Peyton Manning of the NBA. He is the system. So when you take him off, the team falls. Brady was out and the Patriots still won 11 games. Who has the rings? Who's the GOAT? Love Peyton and LBJ, but them being the system has held them back even as great as they are
@samsimpson5654 жыл бұрын
Good analogy my friend. Hadn’t thought of that before. Then it’s strange that Rob does not consider TB12 the best like he does Michael? His standards and criteria change depending on the players.
@arizonaFIREent4 жыл бұрын
The Patriots didn't even make the playoffs that year so how does that count for anything haha
@MrJonnyl1234 жыл бұрын
Pats were a 5-11 team before Brady arrived. Belichick was on brink of getting sacked
@Stankonia3k4 жыл бұрын
@@arizonaFIREent yea but that was a very flukey playoff miss. Literally only one of two teams in NFL history to not make the playoffs with 11 wins.
@TheRaidernation334 жыл бұрын
Been saying that for years great take.
@dazzz8874 жыл бұрын
People forgot....Lebron, Wade and Bosh....only won 2 out of 4....Thats a failure for being a superteam..... Im not asking for 4 for 4..but at least 3 out of 4...........
@rkang994 жыл бұрын
Agree, 50% is a failing grade
@dazzz8874 жыл бұрын
@Angel 23 So When Lebron told the Heats fans..................Not 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 what was he talking about?????? Oh okay nevermind...........
@Big_30004 жыл бұрын
Angel 23 yo you forgot Miami had a very strong bench. Stop making excuses
@jaymoney62334 жыл бұрын
FACTS
@jaymoney62334 жыл бұрын
@Angel 23 Sounds like EXCUSES to me
@Ozem_Israel4 жыл бұрын
The bulls did well when Jordan left because the bulls used an actual basketball system that was not dependant on one player holding the ball the whole game. Jordan took it over at the end Wich is why they win chips. The LeBron system that you might notice is the same whatever his listed position is based completely off of him holding the ball reading the floor driving and kicking. Just like Westbrick and James Haren. So they do poor when he leaves cause nobody knows what to do. Wich is why Kyrie got the hell out of dodge. D
@carokann43974 жыл бұрын
Lebron went to the finals without kyrie, what has kyrie ever done without lebron
@realfactstv47834 жыл бұрын
Not the next season 😂😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭
@MicMucique24 жыл бұрын
Facts sir. Facts. If for 8 years the Cleveland system is based on what the teams game is based on. What do you expect to happen
@aaronaiysen75344 жыл бұрын
Facts and these Bronsexuals can’t see this
@MicMucique24 жыл бұрын
@@aaronaiysen7534 They see it. The just choose to ignore it because that's not an excuse they can use to justify Liebron failures when it comes to winning
@terrence84834 жыл бұрын
I want to know the reason they have Lebron 2nd greatest all time. Lebron does not have the 2nd greatest accolades all time. Winning or stats or a combination of both.
@malikjames90353 жыл бұрын
@Amun Ra Who’s the other 3?
@malikjames90353 жыл бұрын
Amun Ra Wrong check your facts first before you type them
@malikjames90353 жыл бұрын
@Amun Ra There’s only 2 players with 4 finals mvps Jordan and Lebron. If Kareem has 6 rings and magic won all five with Kareem simple math and that doesn’t make sense
@malikjames90353 жыл бұрын
@Amun Ra Could your son beat Gary Payton?
@malikjames90353 жыл бұрын
@Amun Ra Averaged over 20 ppg and 7 apg for 10 years so therefore we have nothing else to talk about. You obviously started watching basketball in 2015
@tcg54274 жыл бұрын
We dont keep it real alot....truth be told bron hasnt surpassed Kobe. Bron just calls himself the goat. Y didnt bron conquer his own era?!? 3-9?!? Even with a loaded heat team?!?
@Rambo-wc1rb4 жыл бұрын
Bruh your only saying that because Kobe passed away LeBron passed Kobe a long time ago
@slytyme36514 жыл бұрын
Loaded cavs team. Trades at deadlines. Picks his players, and he's still been swept twice in the fianls.
@slytyme36514 жыл бұрын
@@Rambo-wc1rb only on paper.
@datguitarplayer16564 жыл бұрын
Notice how Kobe went from Top 15 All Time to Top 10 after he passed away? And now the Kobe fan boys wanna put him Top 3. Kobe was great, remember him for what he was, he was good enough for you to not have to lie about who he was. Contentious Top 10/Unanimous Top 15 All Time is a helluva career accomplishment.
@unseatedtree39554 жыл бұрын
Michael LeBron ain't top 10 he should have 7 or 8 championships but he has 3 that's poor Kobe has always been better then LeBron just like Duncan was always better then LeBron but MJ and LeBron are by far the 2 most marketed basketball players ever but that doesn't make them the greatest especially LeBron at least MJ could really play and was a winner
@irvgotto804 жыл бұрын
I didn't have to watch a doc to know how great mj was, i watched the games with my own 2 eyes. My uncle still hates mj to this day and hes a nk fan
@ericjordan60592 жыл бұрын
Same here. I tell people all the time I was 12 when MJ came into the league. I went to a few games and I also saw Kobe and Lebron play live. They can't compare by some distance.
@atlien19884 жыл бұрын
It’s obvious Channing Frye didn’t even watch Jordan play or he’s another plant in LeBron’s pocket!! Dude could barely average 6 rebounds a game at 7ft tall. HE LITERALLY DID NOTHING BUT SCORE, but he’s bashing Jordan? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@arizonaFIREent4 жыл бұрын
He watched a suns team that played against Jordan in the finals he clearly watched Jordan.
@ChronicGamingJunkie4 жыл бұрын
These young dudes soft and don't know it. Dude that called in said Kobe was the goat sound like a fool
@usaisgood84334 жыл бұрын
That team won55 because they had the same core players in place and Jordan built that team and brought them to that standard which Phil /Scottie instilled! And remember the year after that they were barely 500!
@jasonbournesburner38454 жыл бұрын
Check mate!
@simple456794 жыл бұрын
Nobody ever mentions Lebron won with teammates he DIDN'T develop himself. During all this ring chasing years, he was teaming with already established players like Wade, Bosh, Love, and Kyrie. Jordan was there while Pippen was coming off the bench, he was there when Kerr was a nobody, he was there when Paxson was just a guy at the end of the bench. Rodman was already a great in his own right but he was far from his Piston prime years, the Bulls got him for Will Perdue FFS. He wasn't some superstar who warrants a huge contract like Bosh or Love because he was a role player.
@scorpionJB4 жыл бұрын
Grear point...Jordans competitive drive carried that team thru the 94 season after he retired
@Israel-nb7ip4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. That was a completely short-sighted point that caller made about teams being bad after he leaves. OF COURSE teams are going to be bad when he leaves because literally everything revolves around him. Everything has to be shifted to accomodate what LeBron wants to do. Phil Jackson taught Jordan how to play a different way yet remain just as effective but from more of a team approach that prioritized winning and team play. LeBron dominates the ball and thinks that the only way to make people better is by having them stand at the corner or the top of the key for a kickout three after he's dribbled the ball for 15 seconds. 20/10 guys like Bosh and Love are reduced to spot up shooters playing with LeBron. I give LeBron credit in that he makes guys like Mo Williams and JR Smith better but that's about it.
@mikecasale4384 жыл бұрын
They also added Toni Kukoc
@garyholloman22484 жыл бұрын
It's not even close just like Bobby Knight said in an interview back in 2017 not even close
@Corey_Childress4 жыл бұрын
Lmao “His only job was to score” but he averaged over 5 assists for a career and played better defense than Lebron ever dreamed of playing
@truballr324 жыл бұрын
9 time all defensive player He had 200 blocks/100 steals in one season
@electric86684 жыл бұрын
@Joshua Hunter Versatile doesn't necessarily mean better.
@jimchain72004 жыл бұрын
@Joshua Hunter what about lebron seeking and playing with Allstars hofers and champions most his career 9 finals three rings. 2 rings are controversial. Today's tech. U see ray Allen foot was on the line. And fact the NBA suspended Drayton Green instead of lebron because they knew the cavs would lose the series. Its overrated to say he the best.
@RulingClassMentality4 жыл бұрын
@Joshua Hunter LeBron is not a versatile defender. His defense has always been overrated. He has never shutdown anyone. DWade is a way better and versatile defender than LeBron. In fact, Wade just like Jordan, had over 100 Blocks and 200 steals in one season. LeBron never came close to anything like this because he is overrated. The guy always hide on defense. In his weak era, there are no real centers. So LeBron never guarded any real Power Forwards nor Centers. So stop it with the lies. Kuzma had to push this garbage guy on his defensive assignment just last season. It is laughable. The guy was even scared to guard Durant on the biggest stage.
@obsidianx014 жыл бұрын
Jordan was a 2 time league leader in assist.
@christianbutler86104 жыл бұрын
THERE WAS NEVER AN ARGUMENT‼️ WHO CARES ABOUT CHANNING FRYE’S OPINION⁉️ WHO WANTS TO PLAY WITH CHANNING FRYE⁉️🤔
@themac20084 жыл бұрын
Christianbutler8 who cares what LeBron Chauffeur says... dude is a hired scrub
@ojosmacabros4 жыл бұрын
Maybe his siblings?
@troublefollows99864 жыл бұрын
Channing trying to get hired by LeBron...like other washed former teammates. (Perkins, Damon Jones.etc
@christianbutler86104 жыл бұрын
Russell Mckenny FACTS‼️
@VictorVilani4 жыл бұрын
When LeBron left Cleveland the first time, SIX other players left. Essentially the whole team left, so of course they didn't win as many games. There was no one on the floor. How does that elevate any one player over another?
@troublefollows99864 жыл бұрын
No legitimate argument...at least. At this point.. LeBron fans calling him goat is basically "trolling" . Not even quoting his stats can make a case for LeBron. If anything all those stats , minutes played, millions to stay in shape , trading players, firing coaches , going from team to team , running his own offense, throwing teammates under the bus, drama, taco Tuesday , and the dive treatment JUST To BE 3-6 . All that just be 3-6.. 33% win percentage for allllllllllllllll those stats. LeBron might as well be a normal star and get the same results.
@gideonnartey74834 жыл бұрын
People like you shouldnt even talk about basketball
@jasonbournesburner38454 жыл бұрын
Trouble Facts
@DaFlash474 жыл бұрын
@@gideonnartey7483 lebron fans like you shouldn't talk basketball
@normanlauron41024 жыл бұрын
tripple c burn baby... those stats hurt didn’t it 😏
@theblackamerican10254 жыл бұрын
Cold ass facts!
@coolreg63954 жыл бұрын
The generation after Kobe either played together or didn't win. Lebron can't be debated against Jordan because he started the Super Team era! Lebron got his buddies making fools of themselves trying to defend him! Paul George wanted to go to the Lakers until Lebron came there!
@unseatedtree39554 жыл бұрын
Respect All and Fear None what you just said wasn't relevant to the original point most of the teams you mentioned were built through the draft LeBron stacked the deck in this era without superteams whereas in the 60 70 and 80s most teams would be considered superteams because there was less teams meaning top players regularly played together I don't put asterisks on LeBron championships but with those teams he's had its title or bust and more times then not he's just that's why he still isn't a top 10 player all time not good enough
@neoevans7134 жыл бұрын
@RESPECT ALL FEAR NONE super teams has been around since nba began
@rohanparkes35094 жыл бұрын
@news flash he also went back and won in Cleveland.Look out for Lebron documentary 20 years from now with these narratives. left cleveland jesrsey got burnt went back gave them a title and went to la and won a championship. 3 different teams 3 different championships and made good on a promise to a city void of a sports championship
@Sirdontrip4 жыл бұрын
@RESPECT ALL FEAR NONE after all the leveling of the playing field he did he has twice as many losses as wins in the finals.
@Sirdontrip4 жыл бұрын
@@rohanparkes3509 went to la and won a ring? Wtf are you smoking ge is 0-2 in la
@PowerGearPerformance4 жыл бұрын
This ship sailed after 2011 folks
@slytyme36514 жыл бұрын
When J.J Barea and Kidd became LeStoppers
@MicMucique24 жыл бұрын
I felt it was over after the puppet commercials
@gideonnartey74834 жыл бұрын
The ship sailed and yet here you are
@arizonaFIREent4 жыл бұрын
The same 2011 Dallas team that swept kobe haha
@MicMucique24 жыл бұрын
@@arizonaFIREent Yeah. But Kobe won more in a conference where Liebron gets a pass because it's SO TOUGH.... HAHA
@greatscott70034 жыл бұрын
It’s almost as if it pains Broussard to speak the positive-truth and facts to support MJ being the goat. You can tell it hurts him.
@Magic44134 жыл бұрын
That caller was crazy 2 say, this current style was better than the golden era, KZbin doesn't provide enough context dawg😂🤣😂🤣
@datguitarplayer16564 жыл бұрын
What do you consider the, "Golden Era"? Russel/Wilt's era? Kareem's Prime? Magic/Bird's era? Jordan's 90s? Shaq/Duncan/Kobe's aughts?
@Magic44134 жыл бұрын
@@datguitarplayer1656 personally I say the 80's & early 90's but all the 90's was great basketball period
@jlnxn53744 жыл бұрын
Magic4413 that caller was smoking something man. if you jacked up a three, your ass would be on the bench and possibly not playing anymore. It was inside out rather than outside in. And at the time it was like you can’t win shooting from the outside, until teams eventually did and the blueprint changed. This version of basketball seems watered down and ratings driven. Just like the nfl. All about the offense
@Israel-nb7ip4 жыл бұрын
This generation thinks that if something is more entertaining that it makes it "better." Of course, the game and players' skills have evolved. Guys can do more with the ball...but that doesn't make the game better. For me, who grew up on late 80s/90s basketball, it's tough to watch most regular season games now. Dudes don't play hard every night, everyone does the same thing (pick and rolls, 3 pointers), and it's way too easy to score. The game has gotten better in alot of ways but worse in others. But I still prefer guys competing, which you don't see consistently every night now. And, you're right, KZbin clips ain't gonna give you that context.
@at21304 жыл бұрын
Id rather watch a highly competitive 85-88 game then 2 teams scoring 135-130 every night
@simple456794 жыл бұрын
Lebron Docu-series coming up "The Last Excuse" don't miss it people
@loopnuncio11954 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣😂😂👍👍👍
@truballr324 жыл бұрын
Ahahahahaha 🔥🔥🔥
@gabrielalele86034 жыл бұрын
😂😆
@wiseam94 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 so damn true... I'm tired of his narratives why he loses..
@clintmcneil65764 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😃😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@note48804 жыл бұрын
they are debating the wrong players KOBE vs JORDAN 6 vs 5 not 3 vs 6 thats it!!!!!
@melvinyoung22644 жыл бұрын
Sorry Sir and God rest his soul but that debate is not even close.Jordan just was better by far than any other player with the exception of Kareem
@amenx4 жыл бұрын
Melvin Young wrong.... 81 points 12 all defense
@ojoj51944 жыл бұрын
@@amenx bro, fanboys dont like to hear faxx haha i mean how u are the goat been 3-6 in finals and bron dont win champs in his era for the last 3/4 yrs? KD,kawhi,curry,dirk,jason terry
@Ginga4 жыл бұрын
@@amenx A lot of those All-Defense teams were undeserved. Phil Jackson said as much in his book.
@samsimpson5654 жыл бұрын
Bill Russell and several of his teams are the best all time if we’re ring counting my dude
@banksy64624 жыл бұрын
In all due respect Kobe is not ahead of MJ, he just isn't, that old sounding "young" dude was talking nonsense 😂😂😂😂😂
@ryanfrancisco50924 жыл бұрын
Agree to The Odd Couple, MJ is the GOAT. Great points Rob and Chris.
@joeldriver53564 жыл бұрын
An interesting fact for Lebron fans...for his career he shoots only 37% outside of 3 feet from the basket and in the playoffs that number goes down to 31%. So essentially outside of layups and dunks he's actually a very below average scorer. You can't find any weakness in Jordan's game anywhere. This stat to me by itself completely destroys any argument for Lebron.
@kingquestOZ4 жыл бұрын
But LeBron will still go down at the leagues all-time leading scorer lol
@joeldriver53564 жыл бұрын
@@kingquestOZ Jordan's all time NBA leading scoring average will never be beat (30.1) and that would be higher if he hadn't played in his 40s.
@kingquestOZ4 жыл бұрын
@@joeldriver5356 Average....not total points. And LeBron will end his career top ten in points steals assist minutes and steals. Bow to the King
@Dryltd4 жыл бұрын
LeBron never lifted lesser talent. They took apart that Cleveland team when LBJ left.
@123456CBOY3 жыл бұрын
What
@ryanfrancisco50924 жыл бұрын
Longevity if your not winning is just a statistic padding.
@Dah22914 жыл бұрын
Nonsense lol
@KennyNationZ4 жыл бұрын
Channing Frye ! Who ? I thought 💭 so, FOH
@theblackamerican10254 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@dropoff29864 жыл бұрын
LeBron James: “ Hey, I’m gonna carry you guys to your first ever career championship and make you somewhat relevant in the basketball world. All you have to do is say that I’m the greatest of all time. Deal?” Channing Frye, Richard Jefferson, Damon Jones: “Sounds good LeBron. Thank you so much!” Shannon Sharpe: “Ay Goat James, ol’ Shay Sharpe will say it too!”
@MicMucique24 жыл бұрын
ROB🤣🤣🤣 17:30 OK YOU HAVE TO COUNT IT WHEN THEY LOSE.🤣🤣🤣🤣IM DEAD. FACTS ROB
@pfunk19924 жыл бұрын
😭😭😭😭😭😭
@Samsonjukeria4 жыл бұрын
So many excuses for Lebron it’s so sad. MJ gave us 12 seasons(prime years) and Lebron still playing let that sink in
@DaFlash474 жыл бұрын
Here's some facts about why MJ is the GOAT and Lebum is just a GOAT Michael Jordan has: •3 more rings •3 more final mvps •1 more DPOY •1 more season MVP •9 more scoring titles •3 more steals leader •3 more all defensive team selections •4000 more points / bron moved past him in playoff points, but it took him longer. •800 more steals •Beat 20 50+ win teams in the playoffs (Lebron only defeated 10) •Jordan never averaged less than 40% Field Goal in the finals Lebron did it twice •6/6 (never allowed a game 7) •Lebron had much more offensive help, example: Jordan never had a teammate average more than 22 points in the finals.. In fact, Mj is Only player in NBA history to lead a team to the championship with only one teammate averaging double figures in scoring * In the Bulls’ 1997 playoff run, Scottie Pippen averaged 19 points per game on 42% shooting. All other teammates of Jordan averaged under 8 points per game Kyrie averaged over 28 and DWade averaged more than 26 •MJ never ever had a finals meltdown like Lebron in 2011 against the Mavs •MJ had more points in the playoffs in less games.. MJ accomplished all of this in 13 seasons Lebron after his 16th season, is still chasing the “ghost (GOAT) that played in Chicago” •Michael Jordan in the playoffs has put up atleast 40ppg, 5rpg, 5apg in 6 different playoff series. Along with an average of about 55% shooting, 3spg and 2bpg. (86 vs bos, 89 vs cavs, 90 vs philly, 92 vs Miami, 93 vs Phoenix, 88 vs cavs) Jordan won every one of those matchups except for the 1986 matchup vs the celtics. •Jordan in 88-89 averaged 32ppg, 8apg, 8rpg, 3spg off 54% shooting. LeBron has never even came close to this stat line. •in 87 thru 92, MJ averaged 5 straight seasons of atleast 51% FG shooting. LeBron has never done this. •the lowest FT% MJ ever shot in a season was 78%. Lebrons highest in a season ever is 78%. •MJ has a higher playoff FG% of 48.7% to Lebrons 48.3% •MJ has a higher playoff player efficiency rating of 28.6 to Lebrons 27.3. •MJ shoots a higher playoff 3 point percentage of 33.2% to Lebrons 32.9% •LeBron James has scored 30 points, 416 times in 1,117 games. Michael Jordan did it 562 times in 1,072 games. Jordan won 6 championships without losing a final in 1,072 games and LeBron in 1,117 games has lost 5 times and has only won 3 times (updated 2018) •MJ also shocked the league by being the first (and only) player to have 100 blocks and 200 steals in the same season, then turned around and did it again the next year.. •Mj also has more career blocks (893) than Lebron James (853) despite playing in 22 LESS career games and being the smaller guy. Also, MJ averaged 1.6 blocks per game in the 1987-88 season which is absolutely bonkers for a 6’6″ shooting guard. Seriously this list can keep going. This isn’t even a debate. Mj is the GOAT. MIchael Jordan: •NBA record 5 playoffs series’ averaging atleast 40ppg •Only player in history to lead league in scoring and win DPOY •Highest scoring average, points per game, in any championship series: 41.0 vs. Phoenix Suns, 1993 NBA Finals •Only rookie in NBA history to lead his team in four statistics (1984-85) •Only player in NBA history to lead the league in scoring, win Most Valuable Player, and Defensive Player of the Year in the same season (1987-88) •Only player in history to average at least 30pts 6reb 5assists And 2 steals per game AND HE DID IT 7 TIMES. •Only player in NBA history to win Rookie of the Year (1984-85), Defensive Player of the Year (1987-88), NBA MVP (1987-88, 1990-91, 1991-92, 1995-96, 1997-98), All-Star MVP (1988, 1996, 1998), and Finals MVP (1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998) •Only player in NBA history to lead the league in scoring and win the NBA championship MORE THAN ONCE in the same season * He did this SIX TIMES!! (1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1997-98) •One of two players in NBA history to score 3,000 points in a season: 3,041 points scored in 82 games played (37.1 ppg) (1986-87) * Wilt Chamberlain is the only other player to achieve this. •MJ is also the only player in NBA history to score over 40 points at age 40, and he did it twice! •In 1988, MJ earned: Dunk Champ, All Star Game MVP, NBA Scoring Title, League MVP and Defensive Player of the Year. Michael in only ELEVEN complete seasons with the Bulls: -10 scoring titles, -Won Defensive Player of the Year, -9 times all defensive team, -9time All NBA, -5 league MVPs -6 finals MVPs All 11 seasons. Mj has done in 11 seasons things Lebron hasn’t done and won’t do in his whole career. Nuff said
@stevenfulford9214 жыл бұрын
What about years 84-90 when Jordan was getting swept in the first round!
@billpowley58824 жыл бұрын
2 3peats...2 3peats....2 3peats...let that sink in...2 3peats
@coolpeepsking67034 жыл бұрын
The honor of even being considered the goat is a great position to be in. LeBron is the king Jordan is the goat👑🐐
@dwadeisajerk4 жыл бұрын
Didn’t Jordan never miss the playoffs though not until he got to Washington
@Xzei3 жыл бұрын
Yes... the East was so trash in the 80s the Bulls made the playoffs with 30 wins. You are correct.
@hipoopy7774 жыл бұрын
I still don't get why LBJ is #2? How did he pass Magic, Duncan, Kareem, Kobe or even Bird? Do a real comparison to Kareem, Duncan and Magic and he isn't as good.
@maddennation29434 жыл бұрын
100% correct
@travelinman4 жыл бұрын
K. Scott Son Truth
@clarissawestbrook2203 Жыл бұрын
Exactly I have him at number #5 but he can't just leapfrog ahead of Michael Jordan, Kareem, Magic Johnson and Kobe Bryant.
@jasonbournesburner38454 жыл бұрын
MJ: 11.4 APG in the 91 Finals (Magic the GOAT OF PG 12.4 APG) MJ was a phenomenal passer, if he wanted to he could avg 35-10-10. the system was designed to maximise him differently and it worked damn near to perfection. LBJ never avg that much apg in anything.
@kennyfuentes234 жыл бұрын
Lol Jordan averaged that because he had no choice. Lebron does it cause he's the goat . Lebron a way better passer no questions .
@jaredjones48044 жыл бұрын
@King Stan his comment is dumb and makes no sense. He abersged 11 assisg because he had to, wtf does that mean? What a moron
@jasonbournesburner38454 жыл бұрын
@@jaredjones4804 Agreed
@theblackamerican10254 жыл бұрын
@@jaredjones4804 🤣🤣🤣
@winniethepooh41414 жыл бұрын
honestly triangle offense is suck,the real reason Jordan win ring was Pippen finally rise
@johnjones5283 жыл бұрын
LeBron's weaknesses are not just those that are visible. He cannot seem to play within a system unless it has been created for him to be ball dominant. Jordan learned early on, to play within the system of the team.
@youtubejunkie35824 жыл бұрын
Where’s Kobe wow left off the list again
@donteroberson604 жыл бұрын
Kobe the 🐐
@datguitarplayer16564 жыл бұрын
Kobe's a contended Top 10, a consensus Top 15 and nowhere near the Big 3 of Kareem, Jordan & Lebron. Kobe was great, he was, but I only saw him start to crack Top 10 lists after he left us. It's a little revisionist- I'm Kobe's age so I lived his career in real time with him- and I remember when he was hated, disrespected and unliked...a guy, people said, who played hero ball that would rather score 40 and lose than 20 and win. Now everybody wants to sing his praises.
@idothisforfun13004 жыл бұрын
@Tyler Holt you're talking about stats alone which is skewed, Kobe's career avg is less after not immediately starting when he came into the league + stats when he got back from the serious injury + his role as the primary scoring SG. But when it comes to an actual Arsenal of moves from ANYWHERE on the court, footwork, defense, obsession with winning, and who's gonna outwork you and put up Thousands of hours in the gym til he perfected a move: Kobe >>>>>>>>>>> LeBron. Most of the guys that have played in the NBA say this
@sokit2em4 жыл бұрын
@@datguitarplayer1656 Disagree. Kobe was mostly hated through the media post Shaq and pre Gasol. Many former and current NBA players sing his praises and rank him over Lebron and even have him top 5 (which i agree with). Kobe's resume is more than qualified as a top 5 player, and easily top 10. Kobe is the closest thing weve ever seen to Jordan. He never jumped ship either to form super teams. He stuck it out in those sub-par years with Phil Jackson return, and then he got help via trade with Pau
@amenx4 жыл бұрын
JordAn Kobe Kareem Magic Russell Shaq Duncan Bird Wilt Curry
@weekendwarriorgaragedoityo13934 жыл бұрын
When I scored 8 points on jj barrea in the finals I knew in at that point I was going to be the greatest of all time. LBJ
@lancehood79164 жыл бұрын
Terrible When Mike Left they ran the triangle offense you know the offense thats 12 and 2 in the finals from the 70s until 2010... unless you know that offense that Tex Winters perfected your not gonna understand that.
@jerryallover41934 жыл бұрын
Lebron isn’t that great though. Numbers lie when it comes Lebron
@bradivanson9254 жыл бұрын
Lebron ie going to be the number 1 in scoring when it's all said and done like are you for real ?
@bradivanson9254 жыл бұрын
Is *
@jetgarcia88194 жыл бұрын
@@bradivanson925 Malone is #2 why is he not considered in the GOAT convo?
@ThanosMahomes4 жыл бұрын
Numbers do not lie lmao, they can be misinterpreted but they do not lie
@unseatedtree39554 жыл бұрын
Brad Iverson LeBron makes his teammates worse in order to score like he does that's why his numbers always look good and his teammates look shot despite the fact there very talented
@jakemate84424 жыл бұрын
'Is this channing french fry' Rob is hilarious.
@InfiniteUmbra4 жыл бұрын
The debate was over a few years ago but this documentary helped solidify it for those still stubborn to the truth. MJ is the GOAT 🐐
@rtnguyen2784 жыл бұрын
LeBron is the GOAT at flopping, got lots of compilation videos of that. Greatness doesn't need to flop to be great.
@zoomdoof61074 жыл бұрын
The ability of Jordan to dominate you no matter how far up you are on the all time list makes him the goat and his ultimate alpha male mentality over every super star it's just insane
@electric86684 жыл бұрын
Channing Frye has a breakfast brain, Fryed and Scrambled. 😂
@jmc04200 Жыл бұрын
The arguement that Chi was better when MJ left compared to Cavs when Lbj left is really against lebron, it just confirms that MJ made his teammates better that when he left, his teammates improved drastically.
@gaurikiya4 жыл бұрын
Love the last dance and there is no question there is gonna be a LeBron documentary in the future, but as far as there life on the court and off the court is concerned, I think we know more about LeBron's life because we live in the age of social media where almost every aspect of his life is shown, and now after seeing the last dance and learning more about what Jordan have to do, Jordan's greatness just shines even more than the highlight we see him before.
@heshmiabennett31674 жыл бұрын
By that time Luka Doncic will be man surpassing Lebron, 29 9 and 9 for Dallas at 21 years old
@mrgeeda54324 жыл бұрын
Channing sounds like he's just hating because his team got beat by Jordan. I hated Tom Brady cause he whipped the Jets all of the time and I enjoyed when the Giants beat him in the Super Bowl twice but I know what type of player he is and he is the best
@forbiddenair4 жыл бұрын
they are so right. why didn’t kyrie stay with lebron? he’s SUCH a good teammate 🤔. 2 out of 4 in miami. lost to dallas. ouch
@hightide76624 жыл бұрын
Is lebron Kyrie and kevin love really that much worse then steph klay and draymond. They damn near should’ve been favorites
@PeterJustGames4 жыл бұрын
Man, go back and look at the 2017 & 2018 Finals. LeBron wanted NO PART of KD. Dude was not at all fighting over picks to keep guarding KD. He was just lazily switching and letting his teammates guard KD lmao KD slaughtered LeBron's Cavs winning 8 of 9 Finals games in those series. I mean, does that sound like the GOAT to you?
@mrrich97994 жыл бұрын
Big Facts
@jameshoops104 жыл бұрын
lol so if the team is switching isn't that a coaching scheme or that's lebron's fault? and im sorry kd is probably the greatest scorer of all time who is locking him up?
@brennanwhitty79394 жыл бұрын
These Lebron fans are as unaware as I always thought.
@jimno87634 жыл бұрын
The NBA Mt Rushmore is Russell, Wilt, Kareem, and Jordan
@MicMucique24 жыл бұрын
Not French Fry🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@rickmauricehair54004 жыл бұрын
Chris is finally being objective about Lebron 💯💯
@megadrive65734 жыл бұрын
To say that the Cavs had no business being in the Finals in 2007 is just bad history. Here are the facts: 2007 - Lebron has a top 5 Cavs defense that held down Duncan to 45% in Finals after 55% in regular season Lebron beat bum 41-41 Wiz with no Arenas/Butler - injuries LeBron beat bum 41-41 Nets with post-injuries Vince Carter LeBron beat washed up Pistons who lost their best defensive player (4x DPOY Ben Wallace). Then LeBron got exposed by the only real team he played, the 2007 Spurs - He averaged 22 points, 36% shooting, 6 turnovers a game, missed game-tying shot in Game 3, and 2/6 FT in Game 4 as the Spurs only won by 1 point. The surprising thing is those 4 games were decided by only single digits despite LeBron's poor play. So, yes it would ABSOLUTELY make a difference if you switch Lebron and Jordan on that team. So, LeBron wasn't really carrying 2003-2010 Cleveland when he led them in the playoffs. He just feasted on the weakest playoff teams while playing in Cleveland. When he played good playoff teams, he couldn't carry Cleveland anywhere
@gangstadu944 жыл бұрын
TELL EM BRO, JUST PREAAAAAAAACH
@Basketball824234 жыл бұрын
Preach them facts they don't want to hear!
@emmanuelenyinwa14434 жыл бұрын
Put Jordan on that Cavs' team and they win 30-40 games just like Jordan did EVERY SINGLE YEAR he played without Pippen, five seasons.
@jgshaolinterrific52184 жыл бұрын
Bro finally somebody besides me speaking facts
@boricuafrican14 жыл бұрын
@@emmanuelenyinwa1443 you do know MJ only played TWO seasons without Pippen right? where you got five from, we'll never know.
@hiphopwilliej2 жыл бұрын
I love this show I’m hooked keep up the great work !!
@Britton_Thompson4 жыл бұрын
For years we were told the reason LeBron hasn't won more championships is because he never had a Scottie Pippen of his own. The Last Dance taught us the only reason Scottie Pippen became an All Star & HOF player was because Michael Jordan made him that way.
@greatscott70034 жыл бұрын
Name other shooting guards in NBA history that led their team to multiple championships.
@greatscott70034 жыл бұрын
Young people: y’all don’t give our generation any credit. Also young people: our era way better at basketball than y’all era no question. Just look at KZbin.
@TommyCorleone4 жыл бұрын
The reason why the Bulls won 55 the year after Jordan left is because they added Kukoc, Kerr, Wennighton, Meyers, and etc
@dramaworld57844 жыл бұрын
Channing French Fry 😭😭
@D_Rog794 жыл бұрын
When LeBron left Cleveland for Miami, didn’t they change coaches and lose the second best player in the team as well as other role players? What about the year Jordan returned and only played 18 regular season games? The Bulls by All-Star break were barely above .500 ...that isn’t the whole story about the the Cavs and Bulls without LeBron and Jordan.
@shshbeenreal3384 жыл бұрын
These niggas are bias they make the narrative championships & finals mvp lebron is MR. playoffs based off they’re argument Bill Russell is the 🐐 Micheal Jordan was a Talented Scorer but he was loser until all the other great stars started to retire!!!
@jaja5044 жыл бұрын
The second best player was mo Williams.
@runnin32164 жыл бұрын
That Cleveland team was so bad because everyone was hurt. Mo Williams only played 36 games, Varejao 31, Jamison 56 and Baron Davis a whopping 15. The Bulls were healthy and added Toni Kukoc and Steve Kerr to the roster.
@nothingbutnet55654 жыл бұрын
Facts.. Plus when L36ron left Miami fanboys tell you Heat missed the playoffs but don't tell you Bosh and Wade BOTH missed over 40 games each! I remember they were a pre-season projected 3rd seed and ppl were hoping for a Wade vs Bron playoff matchup.
@shshbeenreal3384 жыл бұрын
runnin3216 thank you Jordan was never the under dog the only competition he had was the super Sonics & the jazz every other teams superstars was washed up or on they last legs
@tegulicious16374 жыл бұрын
lmao come on man move on.
@wallacepemberton9324 жыл бұрын
Broussard doesn’t understand the fact that everybody starved for success when Jordan owned the league but everybody eats during the So called Lebron era or the Lebron eastern conference era.
@QuestionEverything5623 жыл бұрын
When Channing Frye said, "but I don't feel like", I knew there was nothing of substance there. That's subjectivity, not objectivity.