Chris Broussard & Rob Parker - Is There Any Argument Left to Say LeBron James is the GOAT?

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@pigmentrich224
@pigmentrich224 4 жыл бұрын
MJ=Ferrari LeBron=G wagon
@jasonbournesburner3845
@jasonbournesburner3845 4 жыл бұрын
MJ=Space X LBJ= Enron Fiat Truck
@primeminister66
@primeminister66 4 жыл бұрын
Channing Frye's brain is fryed....
@lamotte
@lamotte 4 жыл бұрын
King Charles 😂😂😂😂
@Doknot-tb9ey
@Doknot-tb9ey 4 жыл бұрын
Channing "small" Frye.
@davidcarlos4350
@davidcarlos4350 4 жыл бұрын
He said he thinks Kobe was better when Kobe was practically the same skill set as Michael
@mellow8594
@mellow8594 4 жыл бұрын
Channing ‘absolutely’ Fryed
@michealjohn1064
@michealjohn1064 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidcarlos4350 Kobe was Jordan with smaller hands less efficient and a slower step. And that's still a compliment
@wallacepemberton932
@wallacepemberton932 4 жыл бұрын
They said the same thing as Frye, “leading scorers don’t win championships”. Before Jordan proved them wrong.
@smokesmitty1
@smokesmitty1 4 жыл бұрын
IN THE WORDS OF JORDAN, U NEVER WON ANYTHING
@jeter274
@jeter274 4 жыл бұрын
How did Jordan have a stacked team, when Scottie Pippen missed half of the 97/98 season with injury and the Bulls still won 62 games? Nobody seems to mention that. They only bring up the 94 season
@jasonbournesburner3845
@jasonbournesburner3845 4 жыл бұрын
they never mention that 1994-95 season either when they almost missed the playoffs. They were good in 94 due to the fact the role players bought in.
@cobrachannel100
@cobrachannel100 4 жыл бұрын
In 94 they had a slightly different team than before MJ left. Wennington, Kukoc, Kerr were added to that team. So that is a bunch of lies.
@TheJackKnite
@TheJackKnite 4 жыл бұрын
@@cobrachannel100 Armstrong stepped up and became an all star that year, Kukoc was a BIG piece, he dominated the euro league and Krause wanted to draft him to the Bulls since 92, and we all know Kerr. Don't try to downplay it man
@cobrachannel100
@cobrachannel100 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheJackKnite That is exactly what I am saying. My argument is to the idiot who says MJ left and those guys won the same number of games. I pointed out they added those 3 players but I know it was 4. I dont remember the fourth one.
@TheJackKnite
@TheJackKnite 4 жыл бұрын
cobrachannel100 My bad sounded like you were dissing OP. The Bulls added Pete Meyers and Luc Longley too.
@tonylatrell4406
@tonylatrell4406 4 жыл бұрын
I love how people bring up how when Jordan retired the bulls won 55 games bt never bring up the next year they were a .500 team before Jordan came back n they went 18-4. The bulls never won titles without Micheal. Period
@ericjordan6059
@ericjordan6059 2 жыл бұрын
These people never even put the 93-94 season into context properly because they want to trivialize Jordan. He helped players to develop and most of that first 3-peat team remained. With the addition of good new players, they were able to fair well over the season. Prior lessons learned and passed down enabled the team to go far. When Lebron left those teams, those teams core players also left OR were on the injured reserved list. That is why they tanked. People never make a note of this or they just don't know about it.
@jakeharrison207
@jakeharrison207 2 жыл бұрын
They were bad in 95 because Horace left. If you take jordan and Horace away yeah that’s a big downgrade.
@Dustin_Love
@Dustin_Love 2 жыл бұрын
@@jakeharrison207 94 kept everyone minus Jordan and added Kukoc
@Dustin_Love
@Dustin_Love 2 жыл бұрын
Cavs blew up whole team when Lebron left Cavs first time get out of here.
@100fxtradinggroup3
@100fxtradinggroup3 Жыл бұрын
@@jakeharrison207 The offense wasn't great either, they ranked 14th or 15th in the NBA that year without Jordan....The 55 win Bulls won off defense. Also the team was better defensively and offensively with Jordan.....and this is coming from a big Magic Johnson fan.
@usaisgood8433
@usaisgood8433 4 жыл бұрын
Listening to the caller’s defense of LJ is just comedy GOLD! 😂
@ThinkingBrother1
@ThinkingBrother1 4 жыл бұрын
But you know it's funny though???? A lot of the younger generation are now jumping on the MJ bandwagon... And to me, that's a good thing because they see it for what it is..... The documentary really changed a lot of kid's minds...
@deandrepage1048
@deandrepage1048 4 жыл бұрын
The only game in town is Michael Jordan. 😑😑😑 Michael Jordan is basically an active 2002 NBA Player. Nobody on the basketball court but Michael Jordan
@thomash1268
@thomash1268 4 жыл бұрын
And they don't understand when attempting to drag Jordan they are actually making the case that he is the Goat. I would think when trying to diminish MJ please have a sensible, objective, and well thought out response. Some of these callers comments are just inane.
@deandrepage1048
@deandrepage1048 4 жыл бұрын
@James Jenkis #1 and freaking RETIRED, GET OFF THE STAGE.
@deandrepage1048
@deandrepage1048 4 жыл бұрын
@James Jenkis Cannot re-create Michael Jordan so he can play in the NBA Finals against Lebron James. Stop trying !!!
@bjorn804
@bjorn804 4 жыл бұрын
Channing French Fries: He can only score Jordan's Career Average: Pts - 30.1 Reb - 6.2 Ast - 5.3 9 All-Defensive Team 1 NBA Defensive Player of the Year
@125efa
@125efa 4 жыл бұрын
No one can name anything that Lebron has done consequentially better than MJ
@Big_3000
@Big_3000 4 жыл бұрын
Luke Lates LeBron is better at assist and rebounding and that’s about it. MJ Beats LeBron in every other statistical category
@mcclary44
@mcclary44 4 жыл бұрын
Yo can I get some salt on dem fries?
@michaelinkpen4188
@michaelinkpen4188 4 жыл бұрын
@@Big_3000, and the funny thing is the only reasons Lbj is better in rebounding is, he's 6'8 250Ibs and Jordan is 6'6 213Ibs, also Jordan played the sg position in the era of the big man and he still did really good rebounding, while Lbj has played the sf position in this no contact era where c's and pf's are spread out on the floor and only has a two or three more rebounds average.
@MrOunce3
@MrOunce3 4 жыл бұрын
@@Big_3000 Is Lebrin better at that or is it a matter of strategy. Jordan has proved he can avg just as many rebs and ast when he played pg. And what does it really matter what stats you have if you playing a losing strategy. Stats are what you get while trying to win. Wins > Stats
@docj7631
@docj7631 4 жыл бұрын
If MJ not even in his top 3 you know he just trolling. Richard Jefferson even said so.
@playthatagainbruh394
@playthatagainbruh394 4 жыл бұрын
Wait now Lebron is courageous for leaving Cleveland and forming a super team? These Lebron defenders are pathetic.
@wiseam9
@wiseam9 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 exactly.
@munishyadav456
@munishyadav456 2 жыл бұрын
Petty and pathetic 😅
@munishyadav456
@munishyadav456 2 жыл бұрын
Petty and pathetic 😅
@shane1899
@shane1899 4 жыл бұрын
You cant lose as many finals as Jordan won and be in the converstion Jordan doesn't have the stains on resume LeBron has
@lastmohican3282
@lastmohican3282 4 жыл бұрын
MJ won it all every year he played.
@deciuswtasby
@deciuswtasby 4 жыл бұрын
Last Mohican ummmmm no he didn’t. He’s the goat but he didn’t win it every year bro. Are you sick?
@chichis5757
@chichis5757 2 жыл бұрын
@@lastmohican3282 I didn't know MJ won 15 titles 🤷🏾‍♂️
@lastmohican3282
@lastmohican3282 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry...I forgot sarcasm doesn't translate in text lol. I can't figure out how losing before the finals is better than getting there.
@bigman7570
@bigman7570 2 жыл бұрын
@@lastmohican3282 you supposed to put an “?” or thinking emoji 🤔…….😂
@shakaguru1896
@shakaguru1896 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan 3rd all time in steals
@shakaguru1896
@shakaguru1896 4 жыл бұрын
Second all time in steals per game with 2.35
@KingPiercter
@KingPiercter 4 жыл бұрын
Bron finna be 1st all time in points tho
@tyrellgray1082
@tyrellgray1082 4 жыл бұрын
MJ Defensive player of the year
@zinjgreen3398
@zinjgreen3398 4 жыл бұрын
@@KingPiercter can't say that still, he needs to pass Malone and Kareem, but he is 'bout to be 1st in turnovers.
@ericjordan6059
@ericjordan6059 2 жыл бұрын
@@KingPiercter ... Playing how many years and averaging how many shots per game for his career?
@leobramlett5118
@leobramlett5118 4 жыл бұрын
LeBron was put away in the finals by Patty Mills and JJ Barea in separate finals. Need we say more? 😂
@phraymtv6655
@phraymtv6655 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah!!!, Same team sweep kobe's team, twice in the playoffs😆😆😆
@gagandhaliwal9391
@gagandhaliwal9391 4 жыл бұрын
@@phraymtv6655 kobe didn't choke in the finals like lechoke did in 2011 while having a finals mvp in wade and all star bosh on his super heat. Kobe is 5-2 in the finals and didnt get swept twice. He got swept trying to go for a 3peat. Lechoke barely managed to win 2 with miami when he said not1 not 2 not 3..blah.
@jameshoops10
@jameshoops10 4 жыл бұрын
so they played 1v1 in the nba finals for those two yrs and they beat out lebron and nobody else was on the court wow i must've missed this
@terryf3282
@terryf3282 4 жыл бұрын
@@gagandhaliwal9391 Lebron's individual final's performances are more impressive than Kobe's yes Kobe's teams have a better record. But Shaq was the main guy in the first 3 and Kobe had poor shooting in the next 3 but he had Gasol as back up. Lebron's 2011 perfromance was his worst and his 2007 was not very good but he was very young leading a bad team in 2007. But his other finals performances have been good even when he loses. His stats blow Kobe's out of the water. Kobe only shot over 45% in one of his finals appearances and that was probably cause the other team was focused on Shaq who was averaging 36 points! Plus it was the 52-30 New Jersey Nets! While Lebron has gone up against a 73 win team and a team with Durant, Curry and Thompson. Jordan is the GOAT in my opinion but Lebron is higher than Kobe.
@mauricedavis1740
@mauricedavis1740 4 жыл бұрын
Terry F your making a lot of excuses for lebron. the fact remains is he’s been blown off the floor multiple times in the finals and that never happened to Kobe. you can say he had better stats than Kobe in the finals but where did that get him when he’s lost 67% of the time he’s been in the finals..? that’s not impressive at all especially if your supposed to be considered the goat but all people like you do is make excuses. Lebron averaging a triple double while his team is getting swept is not impressive to me im sorry. It just shows me those numbers are empty and had absolutely no impact being that they got swept. If lebron was really the goat he would of been able to keep his teams competitive in the 07, 14, and 18 finals. You can make the argument that he was playing against better teams in those three finals but you can also make the argument that lebron’s teams shouldn’t of been dominated the way they were...
@aaronaiysen7534
@aaronaiysen7534 4 жыл бұрын
Why does LeBron jump over Magic, Kobe and Duncan 🤷🏾‍♂️ cause these Bronsexuals in the media.
@calendennis
@calendennis 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly bro I’ve been saying this!
@sokit2em
@sokit2em 4 жыл бұрын
OMG thank you!! Nick Wright and Shannon Sharpe are the culprits of this. Then you have other members of the media who dont put Lebron as the goat, but still number 2?! They all prematurely leap frogged Lebron over these greats. Lebron is def top 10, but he has more to prove to crack the top 5
@munoken
@munoken 4 жыл бұрын
He doesn't, it's a media push that's bogus.
@aaronaiysen7534
@aaronaiysen7534 4 жыл бұрын
FMR393 Agree. This is why I kind of quit watching sports talk shows on mainstream media. They push this narrative to much
@dylanallen7720
@dylanallen7720 4 жыл бұрын
even magic agrees lebron is above them lolol
@cyber6sapien
@cyber6sapien 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan shot over 40% from three in the Finals over the course of the first threepeat, and over 38% over the entire playoffs over the same span.
@jasonbournesburner3845
@jasonbournesburner3845 4 жыл бұрын
They never mention that either Cyber.
@simple45679
@simple45679 4 жыл бұрын
but that doesn't fit the "MJ only shot well during the shoretened 3P era" narrative, of course nobody would want to mention that
@connorsmith6517
@connorsmith6517 4 жыл бұрын
Louie Paolo Lumanglas He shot 29.6% from 3 without the shortened 3pt line. Which is fine because when he needed to hit 3s he did and could. He just wasn’t a great 3pt shooter. Not a negative on MJ or his legacy. Let’s just be truthful
@ericjordan6059
@ericjordan6059 4 жыл бұрын
@Brian G ... People never realize this. His percentage was a bit lower, from 2- and 3-land, because of the bailout shots and he still averaged a crazy percentage for his Bulls career!
@JustFrame21
@JustFrame21 4 жыл бұрын
@@ericjordan6059 This. More over, IF Jordan was practicing 3 point shots like modern players today, his FG% at 3pt range would've been just as spectacular. Remember when everyone used to say that Rookie MJ couldn't shoot at mid-range...by the late 80s, they all completely shut their mouths because MJ was an absolute killer with the mid-range in his late 80s and early 90s incarnation. The only difference is that he didn't have to rely upon it as much as his older late 90s counterpart due to his peak athleticism version which could allow him to split defenses and get to the hoop at will. Tell MJ that he isn't "good" at something and the guy would come out and clean you up on doing that very thing. MJ if he wanted too would've been an absolutely spectacular 3pt shooter, and even when he as you stated started to "try" his averages were still good despite never truly practicing the shot.
@Malaki727
@Malaki727 4 жыл бұрын
Labrina "once I lost to Mavs back in 2011 I knew I was the greatest of all time "
@hectorrosado5807
@hectorrosado5807 2 жыл бұрын
He also lost to D Howard Orlando Magics 😆🤣
@Matt-kd8xx
@Matt-kd8xx Жыл бұрын
MJ was sweep in the 1st round in 86 😂, in 87 🤣 and in 88 🤣🤣😂😂
@SuperSonic_868
@SuperSonic_868 Жыл бұрын
@@Matt-kd8xx Lol. You're so uninformed about basketball. Mike was only swept in 86 and 87. He played the super Celtics who had 5 hall of fame players on the team. One man can't beat a superteam. That same logic applies to lebron when he was swept against better teams like the Spurs and warriors.
@onidtubes
@onidtubes 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine leading the league in scoring like 12 times, was a steals leader twice, was all defensive team like 12 times, and somenobody like Channing say, all he did was score. lol
@Nasdupree9090
@Nasdupree9090 4 жыл бұрын
The whole point of basketball is to score and defend and MJ does both better than Lebron. What Lebrons the goat cause he makes sure to go outta his way to get those 10 assists? Lol Lebron more worried about a triple double stat line and that’s why he’s 3-6 in finals
@seangermano1563
@seangermano1563 4 жыл бұрын
He was steals leader 3 times. And won defensive player of the year as well.
@tylerrbh9769
@tylerrbh9769 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine talking about Jordan defense and then realizing that in game 1 of the nba finals magic bullied Jordan and they had to put pippen on him
@traviabrown7341
@traviabrown7341 4 жыл бұрын
@@tylerrbh9769 imagine in that same game jordan torched that whole team.. listen to this stat line for that game 36pts on 14/24 shooting to go along with 12asst and 8 rebs.. go back and watch the game then come back and try and defend this comment
@Ha-th3sb
@Ha-th3sb 4 жыл бұрын
PREACH BROTHER
@megadrive6573
@megadrive6573 4 жыл бұрын
@15:00 Wrong, Jordan could (and did) elevated FAR MORE than Lebron with FAR LESSER talents. First of all, when Jordan left in 1993, the Bulls didn't have the same team in 94, just like when Lebron left in 2010, the Cavs were a totally different team in 2011 (including the coach). So that argument is invalid. Second, The 1997 and 1998 Bulls have the two worst/lowest scoring supporting casts by a winning team in the history of the playoffs (shot clock era). And Jordan was 34 and 35, oyt of his prime. 1994 Rockets - 59.3 ppg 2006 Heat - 58.2 ppg 1999 Spurs - 57.4 ppg 1997 Bulls - 55.5 ppg 1998 Bulls - 54.5 ppg Even better than that, in the 1997 nba playoffs, Jordan actually became the only player in nba history to lead a team to a championship with only ONE PLAYER BY HIS SIDE IN DOUBLE DIGIT. No other Bull teammate averaged even 8 PPG. That's the definition of carrying a team and it's unheardof. And by the way, Rob Parker is right on this...there's a HUGE DIFFERENCE between win 3 championship in a row and get knocked out in the second round of the playoffs. The last time it happened to the Bulls was in 1988.
@gideonnartey7483
@gideonnartey7483 4 жыл бұрын
So much bs from people like you is just ridiculous.
@Aknight292
@Aknight292 4 жыл бұрын
@@gideonnartey7483 if you don't like it, how about challenge his points? If you can't then it's not BS, you just don't like what was said.
@jasonbournesburner3845
@jasonbournesburner3845 4 жыл бұрын
@@Aknight292 He is not going to challenge it because they cant. so they refute it by name-calling. Very childish behaviour.
@simple45679
@simple45679 4 жыл бұрын
People forget the Heat when healthy was 1 game away from ECF after Lebron left.
@connorsmith6517
@connorsmith6517 4 жыл бұрын
Megadrive Jordan wouldn’t make the finals in 07 or 18 with those Cavs teams. Lebron is the most valuable player ever, jordan is the greatest. We don’t have to diminish a Mount Rushmore player in Lebron to prop up MJ. MJ is the goat we all know this, LBJ still top 2-5 all time.
@edgarflores9088
@edgarflores9088 4 жыл бұрын
Channing Frye brain is fried up lol only score MJ was an all around baller winner...MJ GOAT
@tonykidd3893
@tonykidd3893 4 жыл бұрын
Channing WHO?😄😄😄.. he is a clown..He sounds like MJ refused to sign his autograph
@thecomicstandlosangeles6187
@thecomicstandlosangeles6187 4 жыл бұрын
Yup Jordan got 9x first team all defense and won defensive player of the year.??
@roderickl9539
@roderickl9539 3 жыл бұрын
Have you guys heard the joke of a guy named Hollins who's a teammate of Lebron too, I believe? If you haven't, look up the video. The one he's debating/arguing with Shaq. Lebron's great. No doubt. Lebron is just not the GOAT! Michael Jordan is the GOAT! Period. It's been over!
@gshmoker6805
@gshmoker6805 4 жыл бұрын
I would take Prime Kobe over Lebron any day.
@DexterCarter2.1
@DexterCarter2.1 4 жыл бұрын
A men!
@pootsplasencia4846
@pootsplasencia4846 4 жыл бұрын
@@Rambo-wc1rb your a causal of couse kobe over lebron
@akhenaton1979
@akhenaton1979 4 жыл бұрын
no one cares
@NiGaThE
@NiGaThE 4 жыл бұрын
Idk about that beloved
@datguitarplayer1656
@datguitarplayer1656 4 жыл бұрын
Ahh...the Kobe fans. Never seen a basketball game in real life, all under the age of 28, and when they saw him play one time on TV when they were 11 years old they remember him being cool. Kobe fans are a unique breed- not basketball fans, not Lakers fans, just Kobe fans.
@slytyme3651
@slytyme3651 4 жыл бұрын
"When Ray Allen hit that corner 3, I knew I was going to be the best of all time."
@jetgarcia8819
@jetgarcia8819 4 жыл бұрын
🤣 disgusting! He doesn't respect the real GOAT and places himself ahead. Now he's being slapped in the face by reality when the Black Jesus unleashed his wrath. 😏
@normanlauron4102
@normanlauron4102 4 жыл бұрын
Niiiiice... 😂 😆
@Drfunk910
@Drfunk910 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 So True LOL
@fullmetal1766
@fullmetal1766 4 жыл бұрын
Lmfaoo
@toriedavis4403
@toriedavis4403 4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@dbu7151
@dbu7151 4 жыл бұрын
KD, Steph, Kawhi, Dirk, Duncan all won Championships at LeBron Peak. Ewing, Barkley, Malone, Stockton, Payton, Miller, Drexler all denied Championships at MJ Peak.
@bigboner23
@bigboner23 4 жыл бұрын
Kobe too
@cl503cammy
@cl503cammy 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan only played 6 season in the nba? He never lost?
@UtotheJ
@UtotheJ 4 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Taylor So you are just gonna ignore getting owned by Puerto Rico and Lithuania?!
@cl503cammy
@cl503cammy 4 жыл бұрын
@Jimmy Taylor thank u! Its weird old heads never talk about jodan loses.... they never talk about how jordan retired because he was tired! Just talk the truth thats all we want.... we dont count the wizards years like wtf lol he still played! Oh jordan locked the league and nobody never won ! Oh rele so rockets and all that dont matter and before he went to the finals no body won no? Lol bullshit.... they always put holes in lebron career etc do the same for mike thank u
@JosephSmith-uh2cg
@JosephSmith-uh2cg 4 жыл бұрын
@@cl503cammy 6 finals lol. never lost. u know it. u just tooo dumb to accept it lol
@tangaraspeedgoda7436
@tangaraspeedgoda7436 4 жыл бұрын
There's never been an argument to say Lebron is the goat and that's why it's a fake debate. You want to talk about the influence of the documentary. What about the 24/7 pro-Lebron hype that we've been getting the last 10 years? Give me a break...
@datguitarplayer1656
@datguitarplayer1656 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Kareem is the GOAT and if it wasn't for the media hype around Jordan everyone would know it.
@stephenscott8632
@stephenscott8632 4 жыл бұрын
Kareem should have won more. He played on a stacked team and when it was fair throughout the league Kareem only won once until magic came. Kareem couldn't give himself the ball so I truly feel big men cannot have that influence over the game. He's not better then Jordan, magic, lebron, bird and kobe imo. He's 6th imo but dominance he's top 2 with Jordan. His stats are even more impressive then anybody career wise.
@mhua2
@mhua2 4 жыл бұрын
@@datguitarplayer1656 I do like Kareem but the knock on him is that the lakers showtime was mostly magic's team. Heck, magic won game 7 and finals mvp as a ROOKIE when he played Center for an injured Kareem. Kareem has the most unstoppable shot but just can't get over the fact that he could not win a title until magic came along. When he won the first one, he had Oscar Robertson. Jordan has 6 titles with 6 FINALS MVP. If pippen won three finals mvp then yeah... We would have a different conversation. However, I can't remember one series where we said pippen was the best player over Jordan.
@laurencewilliams6676
@laurencewilliams6676 4 жыл бұрын
Well said
@michealjohn1064
@michealjohn1064 4 жыл бұрын
It feels forced
@doublebase1975
@doublebase1975 4 жыл бұрын
Lebron- invented load management MJ- played with flu/ food poisoning and won the game
@valthomas9786
@valthomas9786 4 жыл бұрын
Is that REALLY true? I dont think that's correct. Isnt San Antonio and greg poppovich credited with starting that with Tim Duncan, Kawhi, and others?
@raywhorton5989
@raywhorton5989 4 жыл бұрын
That’s untrue. The Lakers and other division leaders would get a lead on the other teams in the standings and would sit out the final six to eight games to stay fresh for the playoffs. They’ve been doing that before the 90s.
@Xzei
@Xzei 3 жыл бұрын
Dude had a hangover. Gatorade don't help the flu lol
@biglildee0716
@biglildee0716 4 жыл бұрын
Channing “Cornball Brotha” Frye 🤣🤣
@cyber6sapien
@cyber6sapien 4 жыл бұрын
So the 2007 Cavs had no business in the Finals, yet they were the #2 seed in the East? So does that mean that the only team that deserved to be in the Finals from the East that year was the #1 seed team in the East?
@lord4806
@lord4806 4 жыл бұрын
They were the second seed because of lebron being great its like with Giannis now even tho he has a better team than lebron ..
@peterstark4562
@peterstark4562 4 жыл бұрын
Lebron's stats in 2007 finals 22.0 ppg 36% FG 20% 3pt FG 69% FT 6 TOpg 😂😂😂
@mauricedavis1740
@mauricedavis1740 4 жыл бұрын
Peter Stark i haven’t seen those numbers in awhile smh i forgot they were that bad..
@Israel-nb7ip
@Israel-nb7ip 4 жыл бұрын
@@mauricedavis1740 that Finals was unwatchable. The average margin of victory for SA was 6 pts per game and it STILL seemed like the most noncompetitive finals I'd ever seen. LeBron was awful, but he was still learning how to win while going up against a multiple time championship team. His game was exposed.
@ericjordan6059
@ericjordan6059 2 жыл бұрын
More narrative from ESPN and people suck it up. I remember more than a few analyst believing Cleveland would win that series. That changed once game 3 was over lol Also, Iverson and the Sixers shouldn't have been in the finals in 2001 against LA. But at least they won 1 damn game.
@ronsilvia8127
@ronsilvia8127 4 жыл бұрын
There's a poll right now going around KZbin and Jordan is more than double lebron james.
@duanecrooms6570
@duanecrooms6570 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 facts
@realfactstv4783
@realfactstv4783 4 жыл бұрын
Facts it's done bro MJ is the GOAT 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@jackpatrick8460
@jackpatrick8460 4 жыл бұрын
if they polled who was taller, MJ would win that one too
@gagandhaliwal9391
@gagandhaliwal9391 4 жыл бұрын
@@jackpatrick8460 if they polled who was the choker in the finals, bron would be at 100% 😂😂
@raffaballzz
@raffaballzz 4 жыл бұрын
@@jackpatrick8460 MJ was just better bro, not to disregard LeBron because he is great also
@animefan9329
@animefan9329 4 жыл бұрын
I was a huge doctor j and sir Charles fan. When Barkley was traded to the suns for a bunch of stiffs I still remained his fan. I was so happy that he was finally going to exact revenge on Jordan. Since I was a Sixers fan I hated Jordan for two reasons he replaced the doctor as the most dynamic player in the nba. And two, he had beaten chuck and the Sixers back to back seasons in the playoffs. So when he got traded I thought, for sure that Barkley would prevail with a better squad and beat jordan finally. So you can only imagine my contempt for him increased exponentially. The point is I never was a Jordan fan. Till this day I have never bought Jordan's either. (I'm a Barkley air max 95 guy). But when Jordan beat Phoenix back in 1993 I simply gave it up to his airness. To me the suns were better than the bulls. And I thought Barkley was better that Jordan cause he rebounded and passed more ( sound familiar). Boy was I wrong! Sometimes people's hate for another person can cloud our judgment. I don't need a documentary, stats or anything else other than my own two eyes to see that the show Jordan put on in that finals sealed the deal for me. If Barkley with a better team couldn't get the job done then no one could. Mj in my mind has been the goat to me since That 1993 finals were he avg over 40pts a game to Barkley's 27pts a game. I was done after that. The issue became undebatable !
@IG9611
@IG9611 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was a huge Barkley fan too...even was cool with his younger brother. I always thought Barkley was too nice to Jordan in those Finals though because I definitely thought they would win that year as you did. That one let me down majorly cuz Barkley was a beast that year for sure. 6.4 1/2 and killed at power forward....unreal. Just like Lebron is a 1 of 1 as well.... there'll never be another player that big, that strong, that fast, and have the hoops IQ like that and Bron never even focused on scoring and is almost top 3 all time....wow. I get that MJ was great and I watched all of the 80s and 90s but for people to say LBJ isn't a monster in his own right is ludicrous. I've always said people won't respect his talent and skill set until he's gone....and this is coming from an actual hooper that played in college against former NBA players...💯.
@peterstark4562
@peterstark4562 4 жыл бұрын
@@IG9611 honestly. I think lebron would've been more dominant if he focused more on scoring and defending and at the same time let his coach and team mates make plays for him. He can score 40ppg with his freak size and athleticism esp in this less physical era. Him moving without the ball and posting up is harder to defend. But i guess fillin those stats are more important.
@jdubb007
@jdubb007 4 жыл бұрын
That was a ridiculously talented Phoenix team.
@Kingstyles05
@Kingstyles05 4 жыл бұрын
That Phoenixx team is the best team I ever saw to win a title.
@wallacepemberton932
@wallacepemberton932 4 жыл бұрын
I G who says a Lebron isn’t a monster in his own right? He is, he’s just not the goat.
@onidtubes
@onidtubes 4 жыл бұрын
Who's Channing Frye? Sorry, doesn't ring a bell.
@ericcallahan829
@ericcallahan829 4 жыл бұрын
Channing frye is the old white haired actress?
@princeluke6340
@princeluke6340 4 жыл бұрын
CHANNING FRYE is one of the first STRETCH BIGMEN. He shot 39% from 3 point range in his career & has 1 championship. Put some respect on his name lol.
@kenriccoleman7171
@kenriccoleman7171 4 жыл бұрын
Prince Luke FOH
@josefermin6161
@josefermin6161 4 жыл бұрын
I want to like this but you have 23 likes, so I'm not lol
@belichagua
@belichagua 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan is the G.O.A.T❤🙌🏀✨
@mcfirebug
@mcfirebug 4 жыл бұрын
wilt chamberlain
@ericjordan6059
@ericjordan6059 2 жыл бұрын
@@mcfirebug ... Wilt's numbers didn't translate during the playoffs. It's more than just numbers and records.
@hectorrosado5807
@hectorrosado5807 2 жыл бұрын
@@mcfirebug 2 championships for Wilt
@eugenecaldwell9619
@eugenecaldwell9619 2 жыл бұрын
LBJ is the 🐐!!!!!!!!!!
@blackphillip564
@blackphillip564 4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for LeBron's doc: When we was Queens.
@slytyme3651
@slytyme3651 4 жыл бұрын
Swept twice in the finals
@mrrich9799
@mrrich9799 4 жыл бұрын
The Last Excuse
@relaxstaycalm1906
@relaxstaycalm1906 4 жыл бұрын
there would be a lot of flop scenes lol
@blackphillip564
@blackphillip564 4 жыл бұрын
@R S No it is clever, that's why I wrote it. After LeBron retires he's going full Twitter revolutionary/ Al Sharpton. Saying a whole lot but not helping anyone
@armnelangeles1824
@armnelangeles1824 4 жыл бұрын
Better yet: When We was Kweens. 🤣
@leondaniels7995
@leondaniels7995 4 жыл бұрын
Lebron: no one watches what they say, trash talk all day MJ: (EVERYONE FEARS) Theirs a actual rule around the nba that damn near every player, gm,coach whoever follows (Never talk trash to Jordan)😂😂😂
@tcg5427
@tcg5427 4 жыл бұрын
That doesn't mean MJ had a lesser team than bron when he left it means he got his team RIGHT! HE pushed them to bring out the best
@Reignwonton
@Reignwonton 4 жыл бұрын
100% Jordan left the residue of his high standards on the organization, His impact, reputation what have you. And that 94' team played accordingly. So now imagine if Jordan was on that 94' team... he would've simply closed it out.
@mansoorp8355
@mansoorp8355 4 жыл бұрын
@@Reignwonton I always believed Jordan's teams were stacked, but you are right, and I never realized it. 94 Bulls would have gone to the championship and would have possibly taken down Hakeems Rockets. But nonetheless Jordan would have taken those Bulls to the championship which speaks about his basketball skills. I truly don't believe there is a best player ever in any sport. Top 5 sure but in no order. From the eye test on pure skills (things player can do on the court) I havent seen a more complete player than LeBron. Now the only problem with LeBron LeBron most frustrating part about his play is that he didn't play like Kobe. He was a much better player from talent stand point but he just didnt have "it." Kobe could impose his will and would, but LeBron doesn't. Him feeling out quarter was always frustrating. LeBron would be considered the greatest hands down if he would play every game like he did against the warriors game 1 2017 season or against the celtics game 6. But he doesnt do it so ultimately I'm giving MJ the nod, but my eyes tell me LeBron is the greatest as a complete player Again I grew up watching basketball from 2000s to now. I never saw the actual bulls at an age to realize how great MJ was. I remember him as a wizard player more than bulls so I really have no idea how great he is. I saw a prime T-Mac, Kobe, and LeBron.
@chrisa4276
@chrisa4276 4 жыл бұрын
Dan gilbert didnt help his situation either never gave bron a complete team
@Reignwonton
@Reignwonton 4 жыл бұрын
@@mansoorp8355 yo, Respect to everything you said. Cuz I'm a Jordan guy and had grown up in that era, but the fact that your honest with your points regardless of the topic is (no favorites) just facts is respectable. And I 98*% agree with you 😀🍻
@manofaith75
@manofaith75 4 жыл бұрын
you reaching bruh
@rotoninja
@rotoninja 4 жыл бұрын
When Kyle Kuzma has to physically push you to play defense, you''re not the GOAT.
@heshmiabennett3167
@heshmiabennett3167 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@RevoVansen
@RevoVansen 4 жыл бұрын
When homie brought up the eye test, I thought the same thing, and the flopping, and the traveling, and the putrid free throw % down the stretch.
@raywhorton5989
@raywhorton5989 4 жыл бұрын
When you wait until you're 70 years old to put out a documentary that makes you look like you did everything by yourself, you are not the GOAT.
@valthomas9786
@valthomas9786 4 жыл бұрын
I feel you. Good point and that was a bad look on lebron. But its unfair. Jordan has bad tape too with bad body language and effort
@RevoVansen
@RevoVansen 4 жыл бұрын
@@valthomas9786 There is bad tape on everyone but Lebron is consistent with his lack of effort.
@elp3035
@elp3035 4 жыл бұрын
Imo, LBJ is the Peyton Manning of the NBA. He is the system. So when you take him off, the team falls. Brady was out and the Patriots still won 11 games. Who has the rings? Who's the GOAT? Love Peyton and LBJ, but them being the system has held them back even as great as they are
@samsimpson565
@samsimpson565 4 жыл бұрын
Good analogy my friend. Hadn’t thought of that before. Then it’s strange that Rob does not consider TB12 the best like he does Michael? His standards and criteria change depending on the players.
@arizonaFIREent
@arizonaFIREent 4 жыл бұрын
The Patriots didn't even make the playoffs that year so how does that count for anything haha
@MrJonnyl123
@MrJonnyl123 4 жыл бұрын
Pats were a 5-11 team before Brady arrived. Belichick was on brink of getting sacked
@Stankonia3k
@Stankonia3k 4 жыл бұрын
@@arizonaFIREent yea but that was a very flukey playoff miss. Literally only one of two teams in NFL history to not make the playoffs with 11 wins.
@TheRaidernation33
@TheRaidernation33 4 жыл бұрын
Been saying that for years great take.
@dazzz887
@dazzz887 4 жыл бұрын
People forgot....Lebron, Wade and Bosh....only won 2 out of 4....Thats a failure for being a superteam..... Im not asking for 4 for 4..but at least 3 out of 4...........
@rkang99
@rkang99 4 жыл бұрын
Agree, 50% is a failing grade
@dazzz887
@dazzz887 4 жыл бұрын
@Angel 23 So When Lebron told the Heats fans..................Not 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 what was he talking about?????? Oh okay nevermind...........
@Big_3000
@Big_3000 4 жыл бұрын
Angel 23 yo you forgot Miami had a very strong bench. Stop making excuses
@jaymoney6233
@jaymoney6233 4 жыл бұрын
FACTS
@jaymoney6233
@jaymoney6233 4 жыл бұрын
@Angel 23 Sounds like EXCUSES to me
@Ozem_Israel
@Ozem_Israel 4 жыл бұрын
The bulls did well when Jordan left because the bulls used an actual basketball system that was not dependant on one player holding the ball the whole game. Jordan took it over at the end Wich is why they win chips. The LeBron system that you might notice is the same whatever his listed position is based completely off of him holding the ball reading the floor driving and kicking. Just like Westbrick and James Haren. So they do poor when he leaves cause nobody knows what to do. Wich is why Kyrie got the hell out of dodge. D
@carokann4397
@carokann4397 4 жыл бұрын
Lebron went to the finals without kyrie, what has kyrie ever done without lebron
@realfactstv4783
@realfactstv4783 4 жыл бұрын
Not the next season 😂😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭
@MicMucique2
@MicMucique2 4 жыл бұрын
Facts sir. Facts. If for 8 years the Cleveland system is based on what the teams game is based on. What do you expect to happen
@aaronaiysen7534
@aaronaiysen7534 4 жыл бұрын
Facts and these Bronsexuals can’t see this
@MicMucique2
@MicMucique2 4 жыл бұрын
@@aaronaiysen7534 They see it. The just choose to ignore it because that's not an excuse they can use to justify Liebron failures when it comes to winning
@terrence8483
@terrence8483 4 жыл бұрын
I want to know the reason they have Lebron 2nd greatest all time. Lebron does not have the 2nd greatest accolades all time. Winning or stats or a combination of both.
@malikjames9035
@malikjames9035 3 жыл бұрын
@Amun Ra Who’s the other 3?
@malikjames9035
@malikjames9035 3 жыл бұрын
Amun Ra Wrong check your facts first before you type them
@malikjames9035
@malikjames9035 3 жыл бұрын
@Amun Ra There’s only 2 players with 4 finals mvps Jordan and Lebron. If Kareem has 6 rings and magic won all five with Kareem simple math and that doesn’t make sense
@malikjames9035
@malikjames9035 3 жыл бұрын
@Amun Ra Could your son beat Gary Payton?
@malikjames9035
@malikjames9035 3 жыл бұрын
@Amun Ra Averaged over 20 ppg and 7 apg for 10 years so therefore we have nothing else to talk about. You obviously started watching basketball in 2015
@tcg5427
@tcg5427 4 жыл бұрын
We dont keep it real alot....truth be told bron hasnt surpassed Kobe. Bron just calls himself the goat. Y didnt bron conquer his own era?!? 3-9?!? Even with a loaded heat team?!?
@Rambo-wc1rb
@Rambo-wc1rb 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh your only saying that because Kobe passed away LeBron passed Kobe a long time ago
@slytyme3651
@slytyme3651 4 жыл бұрын
Loaded cavs team. Trades at deadlines. Picks his players, and he's still been swept twice in the fianls.
@slytyme3651
@slytyme3651 4 жыл бұрын
@@Rambo-wc1rb only on paper.
@datguitarplayer1656
@datguitarplayer1656 4 жыл бұрын
Notice how Kobe went from Top 15 All Time to Top 10 after he passed away? And now the Kobe fan boys wanna put him Top 3. Kobe was great, remember him for what he was, he was good enough for you to not have to lie about who he was. Contentious Top 10/Unanimous Top 15 All Time is a helluva career accomplishment.
@unseatedtree3955
@unseatedtree3955 4 жыл бұрын
Michael LeBron ain't top 10 he should have 7 or 8 championships but he has 3 that's poor Kobe has always been better then LeBron just like Duncan was always better then LeBron but MJ and LeBron are by far the 2 most marketed basketball players ever but that doesn't make them the greatest especially LeBron at least MJ could really play and was a winner
@irvgotto80
@irvgotto80 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't have to watch a doc to know how great mj was, i watched the games with my own 2 eyes. My uncle still hates mj to this day and hes a nk fan
@ericjordan6059
@ericjordan6059 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. I tell people all the time I was 12 when MJ came into the league. I went to a few games and I also saw Kobe and Lebron play live. They can't compare by some distance.
@atlien1988
@atlien1988 4 жыл бұрын
It’s obvious Channing Frye didn’t even watch Jordan play or he’s another plant in LeBron’s pocket!! Dude could barely average 6 rebounds a game at 7ft tall. HE LITERALLY DID NOTHING BUT SCORE, but he’s bashing Jordan? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@arizonaFIREent
@arizonaFIREent 4 жыл бұрын
He watched a suns team that played against Jordan in the finals he clearly watched Jordan.
@ChronicGamingJunkie
@ChronicGamingJunkie 4 жыл бұрын
These young dudes soft and don't know it. Dude that called in said Kobe was the goat sound like a fool
@usaisgood8433
@usaisgood8433 4 жыл бұрын
That team won55 because they had the same core players in place and Jordan built that team and brought them to that standard which Phil /Scottie instilled! And remember the year after that they were barely 500!
@jasonbournesburner3845
@jasonbournesburner3845 4 жыл бұрын
Check mate!
@simple45679
@simple45679 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody ever mentions Lebron won with teammates he DIDN'T develop himself. During all this ring chasing years, he was teaming with already established players like Wade, Bosh, Love, and Kyrie. Jordan was there while Pippen was coming off the bench, he was there when Kerr was a nobody, he was there when Paxson was just a guy at the end of the bench. Rodman was already a great in his own right but he was far from his Piston prime years, the Bulls got him for Will Perdue FFS. He wasn't some superstar who warrants a huge contract like Bosh or Love because he was a role player.
@scorpionJB
@scorpionJB 4 жыл бұрын
Grear point...Jordans competitive drive carried that team thru the 94 season after he retired
@Israel-nb7ip
@Israel-nb7ip 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. That was a completely short-sighted point that caller made about teams being bad after he leaves. OF COURSE teams are going to be bad when he leaves because literally everything revolves around him. Everything has to be shifted to accomodate what LeBron wants to do. Phil Jackson taught Jordan how to play a different way yet remain just as effective but from more of a team approach that prioritized winning and team play. LeBron dominates the ball and thinks that the only way to make people better is by having them stand at the corner or the top of the key for a kickout three after he's dribbled the ball for 15 seconds. 20/10 guys like Bosh and Love are reduced to spot up shooters playing with LeBron. I give LeBron credit in that he makes guys like Mo Williams and JR Smith better but that's about it.
@mikecasale438
@mikecasale438 4 жыл бұрын
They also added Toni Kukoc
@garyholloman2248
@garyholloman2248 4 жыл бұрын
It's not even close just like Bobby Knight said in an interview back in 2017 not even close
@Corey_Childress
@Corey_Childress 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao “His only job was to score” but he averaged over 5 assists for a career and played better defense than Lebron ever dreamed of playing
@truballr32
@truballr32 4 жыл бұрын
9 time all defensive player He had 200 blocks/100 steals in one season
@electric8668
@electric8668 4 жыл бұрын
@Joshua Hunter Versatile doesn't necessarily mean better.
@jimchain7200
@jimchain7200 4 жыл бұрын
@Joshua Hunter what about lebron seeking and playing with Allstars hofers and champions most his career 9 finals three rings. 2 rings are controversial. Today's tech. U see ray Allen foot was on the line. And fact the NBA suspended Drayton Green instead of lebron because they knew the cavs would lose the series. Its overrated to say he the best.
@RulingClassMentality
@RulingClassMentality 4 жыл бұрын
@Joshua Hunter LeBron is not a versatile defender. His defense has always been overrated. He has never shutdown anyone. DWade is a way better and versatile defender than LeBron. In fact, Wade just like Jordan, had over 100 Blocks and 200 steals in one season. LeBron never came close to anything like this because he is overrated. The guy always hide on defense. In his weak era, there are no real centers. So LeBron never guarded any real Power Forwards nor Centers. So stop it with the lies. Kuzma had to push this garbage guy on his defensive assignment just last season. It is laughable. The guy was even scared to guard Durant on the biggest stage.
@obsidianx01
@obsidianx01 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan was a 2 time league leader in assist.
@christianbutler8610
@christianbutler8610 4 жыл бұрын
THERE WAS NEVER AN ARGUMENT‼️ WHO CARES ABOUT CHANNING FRYE’S OPINION⁉️ WHO WANTS TO PLAY WITH CHANNING FRYE⁉️🤔
@themac2008
@themac2008 4 жыл бұрын
Christianbutler8 who cares what LeBron Chauffeur says... dude is a hired scrub
@ojosmacabros
@ojosmacabros 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe his siblings?
@troublefollows9986
@troublefollows9986 4 жыл бұрын
Channing trying to get hired by LeBron...like other washed former teammates. (Perkins, Damon Jones.etc
@christianbutler8610
@christianbutler8610 4 жыл бұрын
Russell Mckenny FACTS‼️
@VictorVilani
@VictorVilani 4 жыл бұрын
When LeBron left Cleveland the first time, SIX other players left. Essentially the whole team left, so of course they didn't win as many games. There was no one on the floor. How does that elevate any one player over another?
@troublefollows9986
@troublefollows9986 4 жыл бұрын
No legitimate argument...at least. At this point.. LeBron fans calling him goat is basically "trolling" . Not even quoting his stats can make a case for LeBron. If anything all those stats , minutes played, millions to stay in shape , trading players, firing coaches , going from team to team , running his own offense, throwing teammates under the bus, drama, taco Tuesday , and the dive treatment JUST To BE 3-6 . All that just be 3-6.. 33% win percentage for allllllllllllllll those stats. LeBron might as well be a normal star and get the same results.
@gideonnartey7483
@gideonnartey7483 4 жыл бұрын
People like you shouldnt even talk about basketball
@jasonbournesburner3845
@jasonbournesburner3845 4 жыл бұрын
Trouble Facts
@DaFlash47
@DaFlash47 4 жыл бұрын
@@gideonnartey7483 lebron fans like you shouldn't talk basketball
@normanlauron4102
@normanlauron4102 4 жыл бұрын
tripple c burn baby... those stats hurt didn’t it 😏
@theblackamerican1025
@theblackamerican1025 4 жыл бұрын
Cold ass facts!
@coolreg6395
@coolreg6395 4 жыл бұрын
The generation after Kobe either played together or didn't win. Lebron can't be debated against Jordan because he started the Super Team era! Lebron got his buddies making fools of themselves trying to defend him! Paul George wanted to go to the Lakers until Lebron came there!
@unseatedtree3955
@unseatedtree3955 4 жыл бұрын
Respect All and Fear None what you just said wasn't relevant to the original point most of the teams you mentioned were built through the draft LeBron stacked the deck in this era without superteams whereas in the 60 70 and 80s most teams would be considered superteams because there was less teams meaning top players regularly played together I don't put asterisks on LeBron championships but with those teams he's had its title or bust and more times then not he's just that's why he still isn't a top 10 player all time not good enough
@neoevans713
@neoevans713 4 жыл бұрын
@RESPECT ALL FEAR NONE super teams has been around since nba began
@rohanparkes3509
@rohanparkes3509 4 жыл бұрын
@news flash he also went back and won in Cleveland.Look out for Lebron documentary 20 years from now with these narratives. left cleveland jesrsey got burnt went back gave them a title and went to la and won a championship. 3 different teams 3 different championships and made good on a promise to a city void of a sports championship
@Sirdontrip
@Sirdontrip 4 жыл бұрын
@RESPECT ALL FEAR NONE after all the leveling of the playing field he did he has twice as many losses as wins in the finals.
@Sirdontrip
@Sirdontrip 4 жыл бұрын
@@rohanparkes3509 went to la and won a ring? Wtf are you smoking ge is 0-2 in la
@PowerGearPerformance
@PowerGearPerformance 4 жыл бұрын
This ship sailed after 2011 folks
@slytyme3651
@slytyme3651 4 жыл бұрын
When J.J Barea and Kidd became LeStoppers
@MicMucique2
@MicMucique2 4 жыл бұрын
I felt it was over after the puppet commercials
@gideonnartey7483
@gideonnartey7483 4 жыл бұрын
The ship sailed and yet here you are
@arizonaFIREent
@arizonaFIREent 4 жыл бұрын
The same 2011 Dallas team that swept kobe haha
@MicMucique2
@MicMucique2 4 жыл бұрын
@@arizonaFIREent Yeah. But Kobe won more in a conference where Liebron gets a pass because it's SO TOUGH.... HAHA
@greatscott7003
@greatscott7003 4 жыл бұрын
It’s almost as if it pains Broussard to speak the positive-truth and facts to support MJ being the goat. You can tell it hurts him.
@Magic4413
@Magic4413 4 жыл бұрын
That caller was crazy 2 say, this current style was better than the golden era, KZbin doesn't provide enough context dawg😂🤣😂🤣
@datguitarplayer1656
@datguitarplayer1656 4 жыл бұрын
What do you consider the, "Golden Era"? Russel/Wilt's era? Kareem's Prime? Magic/Bird's era? Jordan's 90s? Shaq/Duncan/Kobe's aughts?
@Magic4413
@Magic4413 4 жыл бұрын
@@datguitarplayer1656 personally I say the 80's & early 90's but all the 90's was great basketball period
@jlnxn5374
@jlnxn5374 4 жыл бұрын
Magic4413 that caller was smoking something man. if you jacked up a three, your ass would be on the bench and possibly not playing anymore. It was inside out rather than outside in. And at the time it was like you can’t win shooting from the outside, until teams eventually did and the blueprint changed. This version of basketball seems watered down and ratings driven. Just like the nfl. All about the offense
@Israel-nb7ip
@Israel-nb7ip 4 жыл бұрын
This generation thinks that if something is more entertaining that it makes it "better." Of course, the game and players' skills have evolved. Guys can do more with the ball...but that doesn't make the game better. For me, who grew up on late 80s/90s basketball, it's tough to watch most regular season games now. Dudes don't play hard every night, everyone does the same thing (pick and rolls, 3 pointers), and it's way too easy to score. The game has gotten better in alot of ways but worse in others. But I still prefer guys competing, which you don't see consistently every night now. And, you're right, KZbin clips ain't gonna give you that context.
@at2130
@at2130 4 жыл бұрын
Id rather watch a highly competitive 85-88 game then 2 teams scoring 135-130 every night
@simple45679
@simple45679 4 жыл бұрын
Lebron Docu-series coming up "The Last Excuse" don't miss it people
@loopnuncio1195
@loopnuncio1195 4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣😂😂👍👍👍
@truballr32
@truballr32 4 жыл бұрын
Ahahahahaha 🔥🔥🔥
@gabrielalele8603
@gabrielalele8603 4 жыл бұрын
😂😆
@wiseam9
@wiseam9 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 so damn true... I'm tired of his narratives why he loses..
@clintmcneil6576
@clintmcneil6576 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😃😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@note4880
@note4880 4 жыл бұрын
they are debating the wrong players KOBE vs JORDAN 6 vs 5 not 3 vs 6 thats it!!!!!
@melvinyoung2264
@melvinyoung2264 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry Sir and God rest his soul but that debate is not even close.Jordan just was better by far than any other player with the exception of Kareem
@amenx
@amenx 4 жыл бұрын
Melvin Young wrong.... 81 points 12 all defense
@ojoj5194
@ojoj5194 4 жыл бұрын
@@amenx bro, fanboys dont like to hear faxx haha i mean how u are the goat been 3-6 in finals and bron dont win champs in his era for the last 3/4 yrs? KD,kawhi,curry,dirk,jason terry
@Ginga
@Ginga 4 жыл бұрын
@@amenx A lot of those All-Defense teams were undeserved. Phil Jackson said as much in his book.
@samsimpson565
@samsimpson565 4 жыл бұрын
Bill Russell and several of his teams are the best all time if we’re ring counting my dude
@banksy6462
@banksy6462 4 жыл бұрын
In all due respect Kobe is not ahead of MJ, he just isn't, that old sounding "young" dude was talking nonsense 😂😂😂😂😂
@ryanfrancisco5092
@ryanfrancisco5092 4 жыл бұрын
Agree to The Odd Couple, MJ is the GOAT. Great points Rob and Chris.
@joeldriver5356
@joeldriver5356 4 жыл бұрын
An interesting fact for Lebron fans...for his career he shoots only 37% outside of 3 feet from the basket and in the playoffs that number goes down to 31%. So essentially outside of layups and dunks he's actually a very below average scorer. You can't find any weakness in Jordan's game anywhere. This stat to me by itself completely destroys any argument for Lebron.
@kingquestOZ
@kingquestOZ 4 жыл бұрын
But LeBron will still go down at the leagues all-time leading scorer lol
@joeldriver5356
@joeldriver5356 4 жыл бұрын
@@kingquestOZ Jordan's all time NBA leading scoring average will never be beat (30.1) and that would be higher if he hadn't played in his 40s.
@kingquestOZ
@kingquestOZ 4 жыл бұрын
@@joeldriver5356 Average....not total points. And LeBron will end his career top ten in points steals assist minutes and steals. Bow to the King
@Dryltd
@Dryltd 4 жыл бұрын
LeBron never lifted lesser talent. They took apart that Cleveland team when LBJ left.
@123456CBOY
@123456CBOY 3 жыл бұрын
What
@ryanfrancisco5092
@ryanfrancisco5092 4 жыл бұрын
Longevity if your not winning is just a statistic padding.
@Dah2291
@Dah2291 4 жыл бұрын
Nonsense lol
@KennyNationZ
@KennyNationZ 4 жыл бұрын
Channing Frye ! Who ? I thought 💭 so, FOH
@theblackamerican1025
@theblackamerican1025 4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@dropoff2986
@dropoff2986 4 жыл бұрын
LeBron James: “ Hey, I’m gonna carry you guys to your first ever career championship and make you somewhat relevant in the basketball world. All you have to do is say that I’m the greatest of all time. Deal?” Channing Frye, Richard Jefferson, Damon Jones: “Sounds good LeBron. Thank you so much!” Shannon Sharpe: “Ay Goat James, ol’ Shay Sharpe will say it too!”
@MicMucique2
@MicMucique2 4 жыл бұрын
ROB🤣🤣🤣 17:30 OK YOU HAVE TO COUNT IT WHEN THEY LOSE.🤣🤣🤣🤣IM DEAD. FACTS ROB
@pfunk1992
@pfunk1992 4 жыл бұрын
😭😭😭😭😭😭
@Samsonjukeria
@Samsonjukeria 4 жыл бұрын
So many excuses for Lebron it’s so sad. MJ gave us 12 seasons(prime years) and Lebron still playing let that sink in
@DaFlash47
@DaFlash47 4 жыл бұрын
Here's some facts about why MJ is the GOAT and Lebum is just a GOAT Michael Jordan has: •3 more rings •3 more final mvps •1 more DPOY •1 more season MVP •9 more scoring titles •3 more steals leader •3 more all defensive team selections •4000 more points / bron moved past him in playoff points, but it took him longer. •800 more steals •Beat 20 50+ win teams in the playoffs (Lebron only defeated 10) •Jordan never averaged less than 40% Field Goal in the finals Lebron did it twice •6/6 (never allowed a game 7) •Lebron had much more offensive help, example: Jordan never had a teammate average more than 22 points in the finals.. In fact, Mj is Only player in NBA history to lead a team to the championship with only one teammate averaging double figures in scoring * In the Bulls’ 1997 playoff run, Scottie Pippen averaged 19 points per game on 42% shooting. All other teammates of Jordan averaged under 8 points per game Kyrie averaged over 28 and DWade averaged more than 26 •MJ never ever had a finals meltdown like Lebron in 2011 against the Mavs •MJ had more points in the playoffs in less games.. MJ accomplished all of this in 13 seasons Lebron after his 16th season, is still chasing the “ghost (GOAT) that played in Chicago” •Michael Jordan in the playoffs has put up atleast 40ppg, 5rpg, 5apg in 6 different playoff series. Along with an average of about 55% shooting, 3spg and 2bpg. (86 vs bos, 89 vs cavs, 90 vs philly, 92 vs Miami, 93 vs Phoenix, 88 vs cavs) Jordan won every one of those matchups except for the 1986 matchup vs the celtics. •Jordan in 88-89 averaged 32ppg, 8apg, 8rpg, 3spg off 54% shooting. LeBron has never even came close to this stat line. •in 87 thru 92, MJ averaged 5 straight seasons of atleast 51% FG shooting. LeBron has never done this. •the lowest FT% MJ ever shot in a season was 78%. Lebrons highest in a season ever is 78%. •MJ has a higher playoff FG% of 48.7% to Lebrons 48.3% •MJ has a higher playoff player efficiency rating of 28.6 to Lebrons 27.3. •MJ shoots a higher playoff 3 point percentage of 33.2% to Lebrons 32.9% •LeBron James has scored 30 points, 416 times in 1,117 games. Michael Jordan did it 562 times in 1,072 games. Jordan won 6 championships without losing a final in 1,072 games and LeBron in 1,117 games has lost 5 times and has only won 3 times (updated 2018) •MJ also shocked the league by being the first (and only) player to have 100 blocks and 200 steals in the same season, then turned around and did it again the next year.. •Mj also has more career blocks (893) than Lebron James (853) despite playing in 22 LESS career games and being the smaller guy. Also, MJ averaged 1.6 blocks per game in the 1987-88 season which is absolutely bonkers for a 6’6″ shooting guard. Seriously this list can keep going. This isn’t even a debate. Mj is the GOAT. MIchael Jordan: •NBA record 5 playoffs series’ averaging atleast 40ppg •Only player in history to lead league in scoring and win DPOY •Highest scoring average, points per game, in any championship series: 41.0 vs. Phoenix Suns, 1993 NBA Finals •Only rookie in NBA history to lead his team in four statistics (1984-85) •Only player in NBA history to lead the league in scoring, win Most Valuable Player, and Defensive Player of the Year in the same season (1987-88) •Only player in history to average at least 30pts 6reb 5assists And 2 steals per game AND HE DID IT 7 TIMES. •Only player in NBA history to win Rookie of the Year (1984-85), Defensive Player of the Year (1987-88), NBA MVP (1987-88, 1990-91, 1991-92, 1995-96, 1997-98), All-Star MVP (1988, 1996, 1998), and Finals MVP (1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998) •Only player in NBA history to lead the league in scoring and win the NBA championship MORE THAN ONCE in the same season * He did this SIX TIMES!! (1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1997-98) •One of two players in NBA history to score 3,000 points in a season: 3,041 points scored in 82 games played (37.1 ppg) (1986-87) * Wilt Chamberlain is the only other player to achieve this. •MJ is also the only player in NBA history to score over 40 points at age 40, and he did it twice! •In 1988, MJ earned: Dunk Champ, All Star Game MVP, NBA Scoring Title, League MVP and Defensive Player of the Year. Michael in only ELEVEN complete seasons with the Bulls: -10 scoring titles, -Won Defensive Player of the Year, -9 times all defensive team, -9time All NBA, -5 league MVPs -6 finals MVPs All 11 seasons. Mj has done in 11 seasons things Lebron hasn’t done and won’t do in his whole career. Nuff said
@stevenfulford921
@stevenfulford921 4 жыл бұрын
What about years 84-90 when Jordan was getting swept in the first round!
@billpowley5882
@billpowley5882 4 жыл бұрын
2 3peats...2 3peats....2 3peats...let that sink in...2 3peats
@coolpeepsking6703
@coolpeepsking6703 4 жыл бұрын
The honor of even being considered the goat is a great position to be in. LeBron is the king Jordan is the goat👑🐐
@dwadeisajerk
@dwadeisajerk 4 жыл бұрын
Didn’t Jordan never miss the playoffs though not until he got to Washington
@Xzei
@Xzei 3 жыл бұрын
Yes... the East was so trash in the 80s the Bulls made the playoffs with 30 wins. You are correct.
@hipoopy777
@hipoopy777 4 жыл бұрын
I still don't get why LBJ is #2? How did he pass Magic, Duncan, Kareem, Kobe or even Bird? Do a real comparison to Kareem, Duncan and Magic and he isn't as good.
@maddennation2943
@maddennation2943 4 жыл бұрын
100% correct
@travelinman
@travelinman 4 жыл бұрын
K. Scott Son Truth
@clarissawestbrook2203
@clarissawestbrook2203 Жыл бұрын
Exactly I have him at number #5 but he can't just leapfrog ahead of Michael Jordan, Kareem, Magic Johnson and Kobe Bryant.
@jasonbournesburner3845
@jasonbournesburner3845 4 жыл бұрын
MJ: 11.4 APG in the 91 Finals (Magic the GOAT OF PG 12.4 APG) MJ was a phenomenal passer, if he wanted to he could avg 35-10-10. the system was designed to maximise him differently and it worked damn near to perfection. LBJ never avg that much apg in anything.
@kennyfuentes23
@kennyfuentes23 4 жыл бұрын
Lol Jordan averaged that because he had no choice. Lebron does it cause he's the goat . Lebron a way better passer no questions .
@jaredjones4804
@jaredjones4804 4 жыл бұрын
@King Stan his comment is dumb and makes no sense. He abersged 11 assisg because he had to, wtf does that mean? What a moron
@jasonbournesburner3845
@jasonbournesburner3845 4 жыл бұрын
@@jaredjones4804 Agreed
@theblackamerican1025
@theblackamerican1025 4 жыл бұрын
@@jaredjones4804 🤣🤣🤣
@winniethepooh4141
@winniethepooh4141 4 жыл бұрын
honestly triangle offense is suck,the real reason Jordan win ring was Pippen finally rise
@johnjones528
@johnjones528 3 жыл бұрын
LeBron's weaknesses are not just those that are visible. He cannot seem to play within a system unless it has been created for him to be ball dominant. Jordan learned early on, to play within the system of the team.
@youtubejunkie3582
@youtubejunkie3582 4 жыл бұрын
Where’s Kobe wow left off the list again
@donteroberson60
@donteroberson60 4 жыл бұрын
Kobe the 🐐
@datguitarplayer1656
@datguitarplayer1656 4 жыл бұрын
Kobe's a contended Top 10, a consensus Top 15 and nowhere near the Big 3 of Kareem, Jordan & Lebron. Kobe was great, he was, but I only saw him start to crack Top 10 lists after he left us. It's a little revisionist- I'm Kobe's age so I lived his career in real time with him- and I remember when he was hated, disrespected and unliked...a guy, people said, who played hero ball that would rather score 40 and lose than 20 and win. Now everybody wants to sing his praises.
@idothisforfun1300
@idothisforfun1300 4 жыл бұрын
@Tyler Holt you're talking about stats alone which is skewed, Kobe's career avg is less after not immediately starting when he came into the league + stats when he got back from the serious injury + his role as the primary scoring SG. But when it comes to an actual Arsenal of moves from ANYWHERE on the court, footwork, defense, obsession with winning, and who's gonna outwork you and put up Thousands of hours in the gym til he perfected a move: Kobe >>>>>>>>>>> LeBron. Most of the guys that have played in the NBA say this
@sokit2em
@sokit2em 4 жыл бұрын
@@datguitarplayer1656 Disagree. Kobe was mostly hated through the media post Shaq and pre Gasol. Many former and current NBA players sing his praises and rank him over Lebron and even have him top 5 (which i agree with). Kobe's resume is more than qualified as a top 5 player, and easily top 10. Kobe is the closest thing weve ever seen to Jordan. He never jumped ship either to form super teams. He stuck it out in those sub-par years with Phil Jackson return, and then he got help via trade with Pau
@amenx
@amenx 4 жыл бұрын
JordAn Kobe Kareem Magic Russell Shaq Duncan Bird Wilt Curry
@weekendwarriorgaragedoityo1393
@weekendwarriorgaragedoityo1393 4 жыл бұрын
When I scored 8 points on jj barrea in the finals I knew in at that point I was going to be the greatest of all time. LBJ
@lancehood7916
@lancehood7916 4 жыл бұрын
Terrible When Mike Left they ran the triangle offense you know the offense thats 12 and 2 in the finals from the 70s until 2010... unless you know that offense that Tex Winters perfected your not gonna understand that.
@jerryallover4193
@jerryallover4193 4 жыл бұрын
Lebron isn’t that great though. Numbers lie when it comes Lebron
@bradivanson925
@bradivanson925 4 жыл бұрын
Lebron ie going to be the number 1 in scoring when it's all said and done like are you for real ?
@bradivanson925
@bradivanson925 4 жыл бұрын
Is *
@jetgarcia8819
@jetgarcia8819 4 жыл бұрын
@@bradivanson925 Malone is #2 why is he not considered in the GOAT convo?
@ThanosMahomes
@ThanosMahomes 4 жыл бұрын
Numbers do not lie lmao, they can be misinterpreted but they do not lie
@unseatedtree3955
@unseatedtree3955 4 жыл бұрын
Brad Iverson LeBron makes his teammates worse in order to score like he does that's why his numbers always look good and his teammates look shot despite the fact there very talented
@jakemate8442
@jakemate8442 4 жыл бұрын
'Is this channing french fry' Rob is hilarious.
@InfiniteUmbra
@InfiniteUmbra 4 жыл бұрын
The debate was over a few years ago but this documentary helped solidify it for those still stubborn to the truth. MJ is the GOAT 🐐
@rtnguyen278
@rtnguyen278 4 жыл бұрын
LeBron is the GOAT at flopping, got lots of compilation videos of that. Greatness doesn't need to flop to be great.
@zoomdoof6107
@zoomdoof6107 4 жыл бұрын
The ability of Jordan to dominate you no matter how far up you are on the all time list makes him the goat and his ultimate alpha male mentality over every super star it's just insane
@electric8668
@electric8668 4 жыл бұрын
Channing Frye has a breakfast brain, Fryed and Scrambled. 😂
@jmc04200
@jmc04200 Жыл бұрын
The arguement that Chi was better when MJ left compared to Cavs when Lbj left is really against lebron, it just confirms that MJ made his teammates better that when he left, his teammates improved drastically.
@gaurikiya
@gaurikiya 4 жыл бұрын
Love the last dance and there is no question there is gonna be a LeBron documentary in the future, but as far as there life on the court and off the court is concerned, I think we know more about LeBron's life because we live in the age of social media where almost every aspect of his life is shown, and now after seeing the last dance and learning more about what Jordan have to do, Jordan's greatness just shines even more than the highlight we see him before.
@heshmiabennett3167
@heshmiabennett3167 4 жыл бұрын
By that time Luka Doncic will be man surpassing Lebron, 29 9 and 9 for Dallas at 21 years old
@mrgeeda5432
@mrgeeda5432 4 жыл бұрын
Channing sounds like he's just hating because his team got beat by Jordan. I hated Tom Brady cause he whipped the Jets all of the time and I enjoyed when the Giants beat him in the Super Bowl twice but I know what type of player he is and he is the best
@forbiddenair
@forbiddenair 4 жыл бұрын
they are so right. why didn’t kyrie stay with lebron? he’s SUCH a good teammate 🤔. 2 out of 4 in miami. lost to dallas. ouch
@hightide7662
@hightide7662 4 жыл бұрын
Is lebron Kyrie and kevin love really that much worse then steph klay and draymond. They damn near should’ve been favorites
@PeterJustGames
@PeterJustGames 4 жыл бұрын
Man, go back and look at the 2017 & 2018 Finals. LeBron wanted NO PART of KD. Dude was not at all fighting over picks to keep guarding KD. He was just lazily switching and letting his teammates guard KD lmao KD slaughtered LeBron's Cavs winning 8 of 9 Finals games in those series. I mean, does that sound like the GOAT to you?
@mrrich9799
@mrrich9799 4 жыл бұрын
Big Facts
@jameshoops10
@jameshoops10 4 жыл бұрын
lol so if the team is switching isn't that a coaching scheme or that's lebron's fault? and im sorry kd is probably the greatest scorer of all time who is locking him up?
@brennanwhitty7939
@brennanwhitty7939 4 жыл бұрын
These Lebron fans are as unaware as I always thought.
@jimno8763
@jimno8763 4 жыл бұрын
The NBA Mt Rushmore is Russell, Wilt, Kareem, and Jordan
@MicMucique2
@MicMucique2 4 жыл бұрын
Not French Fry🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@rickmauricehair5400
@rickmauricehair5400 4 жыл бұрын
Chris is finally being objective about Lebron 💯💯
@megadrive6573
@megadrive6573 4 жыл бұрын
To say that the Cavs had no business being in the Finals in 2007 is just bad history. Here are the facts: 2007 - Lebron has a top 5 Cavs defense that held down Duncan to 45% in Finals after 55% in regular season Lebron beat bum 41-41 Wiz with no Arenas/Butler - injuries LeBron beat bum 41-41 Nets with post-injuries Vince Carter LeBron beat washed up Pistons who lost their best defensive player (4x DPOY Ben Wallace). Then LeBron got exposed by the only real team he played, the 2007 Spurs - He averaged 22 points, 36% shooting, 6 turnovers a game, missed game-tying shot in Game 3, and 2/6 FT in Game 4 as the Spurs only won by 1 point. The surprising thing is those 4 games were decided by only single digits despite LeBron's poor play. So, yes it would ABSOLUTELY make a difference if you switch Lebron and Jordan on that team. So, LeBron wasn't really carrying 2003-2010 Cleveland when he led them in the playoffs. He just feasted on the weakest playoff teams while playing in Cleveland. When he played good playoff teams, he couldn't carry Cleveland anywhere
@gangstadu94
@gangstadu94 4 жыл бұрын
TELL EM BRO, JUST PREAAAAAAAACH
@Basketball82423
@Basketball82423 4 жыл бұрын
Preach them facts they don't want to hear!
@emmanuelenyinwa1443
@emmanuelenyinwa1443 4 жыл бұрын
Put Jordan on that Cavs' team and they win 30-40 games just like Jordan did EVERY SINGLE YEAR he played without Pippen, five seasons.
@jgshaolinterrific5218
@jgshaolinterrific5218 4 жыл бұрын
Bro finally somebody besides me speaking facts
@boricuafrican1
@boricuafrican1 4 жыл бұрын
@@emmanuelenyinwa1443 you do know MJ only played TWO seasons without Pippen right? where you got five from, we'll never know.
@hiphopwilliej
@hiphopwilliej 2 жыл бұрын
I love this show I’m hooked keep up the great work !!
@Britton_Thompson
@Britton_Thompson 4 жыл бұрын
For years we were told the reason LeBron hasn't won more championships is because he never had a Scottie Pippen of his own. The Last Dance taught us the only reason Scottie Pippen became an All Star & HOF player was because Michael Jordan made him that way.
@greatscott7003
@greatscott7003 4 жыл бұрын
Name other shooting guards in NBA history that led their team to multiple championships.
@greatscott7003
@greatscott7003 4 жыл бұрын
Young people: y’all don’t give our generation any credit. Also young people: our era way better at basketball than y’all era no question. Just look at KZbin.
@TommyCorleone
@TommyCorleone 4 жыл бұрын
The reason why the Bulls won 55 the year after Jordan left is because they added Kukoc, Kerr, Wennighton, Meyers, and etc
@dramaworld5784
@dramaworld5784 4 жыл бұрын
Channing French Fry 😭😭
@D_Rog79
@D_Rog79 4 жыл бұрын
When LeBron left Cleveland for Miami, didn’t they change coaches and lose the second best player in the team as well as other role players? What about the year Jordan returned and only played 18 regular season games? The Bulls by All-Star break were barely above .500 ...that isn’t the whole story about the the Cavs and Bulls without LeBron and Jordan.
@shshbeenreal338
@shshbeenreal338 4 жыл бұрын
These niggas are bias they make the narrative championships & finals mvp lebron is MR. playoffs based off they’re argument Bill Russell is the 🐐 Micheal Jordan was a Talented Scorer but he was loser until all the other great stars started to retire!!!
@jaja504
@jaja504 4 жыл бұрын
The second best player was mo Williams.
@runnin3216
@runnin3216 4 жыл бұрын
That Cleveland team was so bad because everyone was hurt. Mo Williams only played 36 games, Varejao 31, Jamison 56 and Baron Davis a whopping 15. The Bulls were healthy and added Toni Kukoc and Steve Kerr to the roster.
@nothingbutnet5565
@nothingbutnet5565 4 жыл бұрын
Facts.. Plus when L36ron left Miami fanboys tell you Heat missed the playoffs but don't tell you Bosh and Wade BOTH missed over 40 games each! I remember they were a pre-season projected 3rd seed and ppl were hoping for a Wade vs Bron playoff matchup.
@shshbeenreal338
@shshbeenreal338 4 жыл бұрын
runnin3216 thank you Jordan was never the under dog the only competition he had was the super Sonics & the jazz every other teams superstars was washed up or on they last legs
@tegulicious1637
@tegulicious1637 4 жыл бұрын
lmao come on man move on.
@wallacepemberton932
@wallacepemberton932 4 жыл бұрын
Broussard doesn’t understand the fact that everybody starved for success when Jordan owned the league but everybody eats during the So called Lebron era or the Lebron eastern conference era.
@QuestionEverything562
@QuestionEverything562 3 жыл бұрын
When Channing Frye said, "but I don't feel like", I knew there was nothing of substance there. That's subjectivity, not objectivity.
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